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		<title>By: Mommybrain</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/cheese-sticks-chicken-wings/#comment-287379</link>
		<dc:creator>Mommybrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 15:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hey, Matt - missed you!  Another fine piece of work.  I truly don’t understand why we’re not up in arms (so to speak) about the waste, fraud, incompetence and unmitigated greed on display in Iraq.  My  husband’s business is rubber molding - o-rings, gaskets, seals - that go in spare parts for all kinds of industries, including mil.  During GulfI we had a big bounce in business as many of our customers are mil. suppliers.  This time?  Zip, nada, not even a blip.  Who’s making those parts? Oh, yeah, China.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Matt &#8211; missed you!  Another fine piece of work.  I truly don’t understand why we’re not up in arms (so to speak) about the waste, fraud, incompetence and unmitigated greed on display in Iraq.  My  husband’s business is rubber molding &#8211; o-rings, gaskets, seals &#8211; that go in spare parts for all kinds of industries, including mil.  During GulfI we had a big bounce in business as many of our customers are mil. suppliers.  This time?  Zip, nada, not even a blip.  Who’s making those parts? Oh, yeah, China.</p>
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		<title>By: ckerst</title>
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		<dc:creator>ckerst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 14:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That last entry about Cape Coral is the tip of the iceberg. The city of Cape Coral contracted to hook the people in those districts up to city water and sewer. The price to connect each home is $22000.00&lt;br /&gt;
An auditor stepped in and said he found evidence of massive fraud. The mayor overnight announced he could drop the price of hookups by 4000.00 dollars. The FBI is involved now and I expect some one is headed to prison. BTW if you are considering a move to SW Florida stay out of Cape Coral.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That last entry about Cape Coral is the tip of the iceberg. The city of Cape Coral contracted to hook the people in those districts up to city water and sewer. The price to connect each home is $22000.00<br />
An auditor stepped in and said he found evidence of massive fraud. The mayor overnight announced he could drop the price of hookups by 4000.00 dollars. The FBI is involved now and I expect some one is headed to prison. BTW if you are considering a move to SW Florida stay out of Cape Coral.</p>
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		<title>By: Iraq soldier</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/cheese-sticks-chicken-wings/#comment-287177</link>
		<dc:creator>Iraq soldier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m so sick of chicken. Three meals a day (actually four served but at least one you are usually asleep during) chicken chicken chicken. Of course there is other stuff but I’m sick of it too but think of 10’s of millions of chickens that have given their life for this war.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We get harrassed at the DFAC. We work the gate and we have to get almost a hundred meals every day from the chow hall just before it opens. We have to be there 30 minutes before the chow hall opens and not a minute earlier and we have to be out 10 minutes before they open and not a minute later. We have a max of 20 minutes or they ‘kick’ us out (well at least they try we go around with them and get our food anyway). They never put the entire menu on the line until after we leave or right before we leave. I guess we at the gate don’t rate the full menu or maybe they are afraid we will take all the food. I don’t know what the deal is but I get so dang angry over this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Don’t worry though. We MAKE them load the plates down. I don’t care if half of it gets thrown away. They get paid by the plate not by the contents of it.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I’m just tired of having so many problems from the people that are supposed to be working for us over food that our government is paying top dollar for.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I feel better.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh yeah. The showers are hot all summer and cold all winter. The water is stored outside of course and the sun heats it. Never turn on the hot water side in the summer. In the winter the water heaters make a limited amount of hot water.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I feel better.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m so sick of chicken. Three meals a day (actually four served but at least one you are usually asleep during) chicken chicken chicken. Of course there is other stuff but I’m sick of it too but think of 10’s of millions of chickens that have given their life for this war.</p>
<p>We get harrassed at the DFAC. We work the gate and we have to get almost a hundred meals every day from the chow hall just before it opens. We have to be there 30 minutes before the chow hall opens and not a minute earlier and we have to be out 10 minutes before they open and not a minute later. We have a max of 20 minutes or they ‘kick’ us out (well at least they try we go around with them and get our food anyway). They never put the entire menu on the line until after we leave or right before we leave. I guess we at the gate don’t rate the full menu or maybe they are afraid we will take all the food. I don’t know what the deal is but I get so dang angry over this.</p>
<p>Don’t worry though. We MAKE them load the plates down. I don’t care if half of it gets thrown away. They get paid by the plate not by the contents of it.</p>
<p>I’m just tired of having so many problems from the people that are supposed to be working for us over food that our government is paying top dollar for.</p>
<p>Now I feel better.</p>
<p>Oh yeah. The showers are hot all summer and cold all winter. The water is stored outside of course and the sun heats it. Never turn on the hot water side in the summer. In the winter the water heaters make a limited amount of hot water.</p>
<p>Now I feel better.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick DeVille</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/cheese-sticks-chicken-wings/#comment-287134</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick DeVille</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 13:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-286427&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Anne @&lt;br /&gt;
                38              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Rick DeVille at 19 - &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I am not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed that people the world over judge all of us by the actions and policies and speeches and statements that come out of the minds and mouths of people like George Bush and Dick Cheney and others in the administration.  I am ashamed that people think we’re all like that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well said. That’s a much better way of putting it. My frustration is that I’m proud of my country and proud to be an American, but I am not at all proud of what the greater world’s perception of the American has become.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Never mind “stay the course,” our ship of state is &lt;em&gt;off&lt;/em&gt; course; time to set the crew adrift come November. And I’d like to throw the skipper and helmsman in the brig.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-286427"><em>Anne @<br />
                38              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Rick DeVille at 19 &#8211; </p>
<p>I am not ashamed to be an American, but I am ashamed that people the world over judge all of us by the actions and policies and speeches and statements that come out of the minds and mouths of people like George Bush and Dick Cheney and others in the administration.  I am ashamed that people think we’re all like that.</p>
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<p>Well said. That’s a much better way of putting it. My frustration is that I’m proud of my country and proud to be an American, but I am not at all proud of what the greater world’s perception of the American has become.</p>
<p>Never mind “stay the course,” our ship of state is <em>off</em> course; time to set the crew adrift come November. And I’d like to throw the skipper and helmsman in the brig.</p>
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		<title>By: Wess</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:39:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I am an&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-286388&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;me to me @ 20 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;OT, SORRY&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;think progress has the story. you want to VOMIT?;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;in Australia, Disney/ABC markets ‘the path to 9/11 as “exactly what happened”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ARE THEY OUR OF THEIR FUCKING MINDS?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt; Austrian living in Australia and Yes the channel 7 network is advertising the “Path To 911″ as what happenned…Chanel 7 is owned and controlled by Rupert Murdoch.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But all is not what it seems…I’ve read many news reports from here that are telling about the controversy about this piece of fluff in the US.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I think the line has already been drawn here in Australia. You will either take that show as the dribble it is, and believe me, where not stupid (a hell of a lot of Aussies are absolutely ashamed and disgusted that we we went to Iraq) Or believe it. Those that will believe it are already in that square and those that will think it’s a piece of fluff have already made up their minds over this.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I won’t be watching it and I will be writing all the advertisers that use channel 7 during that time slot that I will not be using their products ever again.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Jesus H Christ….What the fuck is going on in the Western world when Lying is so easily accepted?&lt;br /&gt;
I hate Liars and I hate Hypocrites.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an<a href="#comment-286388"><em>me to me @ 20 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>OT, SORRY</p>
<p>think progress has the story. you want to VOMIT?;</p>
<p>in Australia, Disney/ABC markets ‘the path to 9/11 as “exactly what happened”</p>
<p>ARE THEY OUR OF THEIR FUCKING MINDS?</p>
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<p> Austrian living in Australia and Yes the channel 7 network is advertising the “Path To 911″ as what happenned…Chanel 7 is owned and controlled by Rupert Murdoch.</p>
<p>But all is not what it seems…I’ve read many news reports from here that are telling about the controversy about this piece of fluff in the US.</p>
<p>I think the line has already been drawn here in Australia. You will either take that show as the dribble it is, and believe me, where not stupid (a hell of a lot of Aussies are absolutely ashamed and disgusted that we we went to Iraq) Or believe it. Those that will believe it are already in that square and those that will think it’s a piece of fluff have already made up their minds over this.</p>
<p>I won’t be watching it and I will be writing all the advertisers that use channel 7 during that time slot that I will not be using their products ever again.</p>
<p>Jesus H Christ….What the fuck is going on in the Western world when Lying is so easily accepted?<br />
I hate Liars and I hate Hypocrites.</p>
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		<title>By: Margot</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 03:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Mrs. K8 @ 68,&lt;br /&gt;
You put it so well, the sense of humiliation and ennervation.  I’m very glad to be here, able to participate and learn.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mrs. K8 @ 68,<br />
You put it so well, the sense of humiliation and ennervation.  I’m very glad to be here, able to participate and learn.</p>
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		<title>By: liz</title>
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		<dc:creator>liz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:24:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;it is really and truly getting worse,,, minute by minute , day by day, and week by week and month by month and year by year… dont you guys think? I personally have had it. How does this end? or does it….. I am about to loose all hope that the sicko’s in DC can do anything but fight between themselves like children and they are ” playing war” with human lives. This is beyond orwell.It should certainly be stopped.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it is really and truly getting worse,,, minute by minute , day by day, and week by week and month by month and year by year… dont you guys think? I personally have had it. How does this end? or does it….. I am about to loose all hope that the sicko’s in DC can do anything but fight between themselves like children and they are ” playing war” with human lives. This is beyond orwell.It should certainly be stopped.</p>
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		<title>By: ccmask</title>
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		<dc:creator>ccmask</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:23:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;mailto:AKADAD@16:Republicans&quot;&gt;AKADAD@16:Republicans&lt;/a&gt; need to explain, why they refuse to investigate companies that defraud the taxpayers, and the troops. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;That would be a great question to ask Cheney on TV tomorrow…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="mailto:AKADAD@16:Republicans">AKADAD@16:Republicans</a> need to explain, why they refuse to investigate companies that defraud the taxpayers, and the troops. </p>
<p>That would be a great question to ask Cheney on TV tomorrow…</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. K8</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/09/cheese-sticks-chicken-wings/#comment-286561</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. K8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 02:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You know what?  &lt;b&gt;Living under a fascist state is humiliating.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;How many of you know what I’m saying?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You read a story like this, and it (once again) breaks your outrage meter.  [Although it seems to me I heard about this serving-garbage-to-soldiers story before — Wasn’t Bunnatine Greenhouse on the trail of this?]&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You ask yourself “where is the sheriff who will break up this blatant lawbreaking”?  Then you realize the sheriff is corrupt, and will not come to uphold justice.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then it sinks in that Congress will not righteously discipline the corrupt sheriff, because the Congress is controlled by Republicans, who are corrupt up to their eyeballs.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Then you say, why can’t the people take these cases to the courts?  And then you realize the judicial system is hanging by a slender thread, and there are times when brief victories (Custer Battles) are snuffed out like tiny quivering candle flames.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The levers of democracy have been stolen.  This makes you feel powerless, helpless.  Humiliated at having one’s dignity as a citizen trampled upon ruthlessly.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Now I begin to understand what citizens under ruthless regimes must always feel, especially those countries who previously had a sense of democracy.  It doesn’t matter that this is “soft fascism” — the fact that they don’t need to stand on streetcorners with M16s to effect their will does not diminish the sense of humiliation and loss of civic pride.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We must fight this sense of helplessness with everything we’ve got, because it is their first &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt; last psyops trick.  Get your victims to defeat themselves with their own hopelessness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I worry terribly about November.  But whatever happens, we much never ever give up.  Our beloved country depends on us, and the fate of this nation will have a huge impact far beyond our own borders.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Thank God I can hang out here to look for (and find)  renewed strength and hope.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what?  <b>Living under a fascist state is humiliating.</b></p>
<p>How many of you know what I’m saying?</p>
<p>You read a story like this, and it (once again) breaks your outrage meter.  [Although it seems to me I heard about this serving-garbage-to-soldiers story before — Wasn’t Bunnatine Greenhouse on the trail of this?]</p>
<p>You ask yourself “where is the sheriff who will break up this blatant lawbreaking”?  Then you realize the sheriff is corrupt, and will not come to uphold justice.  </p>
<p>Then it sinks in that Congress will not righteously discipline the corrupt sheriff, because the Congress is controlled by Republicans, who are corrupt up to their eyeballs.</p>
<p>Then you say, why can’t the people take these cases to the courts?  And then you realize the judicial system is hanging by a slender thread, and there are times when brief victories (Custer Battles) are snuffed out like tiny quivering candle flames.</p>
<p>The levers of democracy have been stolen.  This makes you feel powerless, helpless.  Humiliated at having one’s dignity as a citizen trampled upon ruthlessly.</p>
<p>Now I begin to understand what citizens under ruthless regimes must always feel, especially those countries who previously had a sense of democracy.  It doesn’t matter that this is “soft fascism” — the fact that they don’t need to stand on streetcorners with M16s to effect their will does not diminish the sense of humiliation and loss of civic pride.</p>
<p>We must fight this sense of helplessness with everything we’ve got, because it is their first <i>and</i> last psyops trick.  Get your victims to defeat themselves with their own hopelessness.</p>
<p>I worry terribly about November.  But whatever happens, we much never ever give up.  Our beloved country depends on us, and the fate of this nation will have a huge impact far beyond our own borders.</p>
<p>Thank God I can hang out here to look for (and find)  renewed strength and hope.</p>
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		<title>By: ifthethunderdontgetya</title>
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		<dc:creator>ifthethunderdontgetya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Sep 2006 01:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-286494&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;everhopeful @ 66&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Sorry - OT - but YouTube has the “Path to Misinformation” up&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6lSIJ_IZcU&amp;mode=related&amp;search=&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....mp;search=&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvsZhPbMwio&quot;&gt;Aravosis&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>Sorry &#8211; OT &#8211; but YouTube has the “Path to Misinformation” up</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6lSIJ_IZcU&amp;mode=related&amp;search=">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v&#8230;..mp;search=</a></p>
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<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvsZhPbMwio">Aravosis</a></p>
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