Comments on: Thou Shalt Not Lie…And All the Rest of It http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/ Firedoglake weblog Thu, 26 Nov 2009 06:07:06 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Sally http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285594 Sally Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:00:26 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285594 <p>Patricia Heaton might want to know the Ambassador Barbara Bodine she said she admires does not admire the PT9/11 film farce. (I have read so much the last few days I can’t remember the source.) I don’t share Heaton’s admiration for Bodine who used her position to completely thwart O’Neill in his Yemen investigation.</p> Patricia Heaton might want to know the Ambassador Barbara Bodine she said she admires does not admire the PT9/11 film farce. (I have read so much the last few days I can’t remember the source.) I don’t share Heaton’s admiration for Bodine who used her position to completely thwart O’Neill in his Yemen investigation.

]]> By: tpres2000 http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285527 tpres2000 Sat, 09 Sep 2006 12:58:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285527 <p>Grammar police at work:<br /> “they must be chomping at their bits to see this movie yanked” should be “champing at their bits”.</p> <p>Thanks Jennifer, excellent piece of work.</p> Grammar police at work:
“they must be chomping at their bits to see this movie yanked” should be “champing at their bits”.

Thanks Jennifer, excellent piece of work.

]]> By: Emily http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285468 Emily Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:51:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285468 <p><em>I would imagine, though, that the more ABC Newsies learn about how icky this project truly is, they must be <b>chomping</b> at their bits to see this movie yanked.</em></p> <p>My pet peeve: The newsies will be<br /> <b>champing</b> at the bit, not chomping.</p> I would imagine, though, that the more ABC Newsies learn about how icky this project truly is, they must be chomping at their bits to see this movie yanked.

My pet peeve: The newsies will be
champing at the bit, not chomping.

]]> By: Desert Dawg http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285452 Desert Dawg Sat, 09 Sep 2006 11:33:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285452 <p>I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Lee Hamilton–He was one of the few House Democrats to vote for impeachment.</p> I wouldn’t hold my breath waiting for Lee Hamilton–He was one of the few House Democrats to vote for impeachment.

]]> By: Kryten42 http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285429 Kryten42 Sat, 09 Sep 2006 10:14:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285429 <p>Heh!! Good coincidence. I said pretty much the same thing on my Friday Update blog. I dug up some info on them also that ties them to the YWAM evangelical group.</p> <p><a href="http://loadedmouth.com/node/3920">http://loadedmouth.com/node/3920</a></p> <p>Keep up the great work all! :D</p> <p>You know… I hope they do air it! The storm now will be nothing compared to the storm after! And they can’t say “You haven’t seen it!” I think that will be the final nail. :)</p> <p>Cheers all! :D</p> Heh!! Good coincidence. I said pretty much the same thing on my Friday Update blog. I dug up some info on them also that ties them to the YWAM evangelical group.

http://loadedmouth.com/node/3920

Keep up the great work all! :D

You know… I hope they do air it! The storm now will be nothing compared to the storm after! And they can’t say “You haven’t seen it!” I think that will be the final nail. :)

Cheers all! :D

]]> By: hoosierville http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285425 hoosierville Sat, 09 Sep 2006 09:04:58 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285425 <p><a href="#comment-285324"><em>CLK @<br /> 271 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>ABC’s 9-11 movie is to be aired in the UK by the BBC and also in New Zealand, where it is still being promoted as a dramatization of the 9-11 Report.<br /> The PROPAGANDISTS certainly were thorough!</p></blockquote> <p>Aren’t the libel laws a little friendlier to public figures in the UK? It might be an interesting test case anyway. Remember when Richard Perle was going to sue Seymour Hersh in the UK instead of here because their laws gave him a better chance of winning?</p> <p>From Slate “Put Up Or Shut Up, Richard Perle.”<br /> <a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2080100/">http://www.slate.com/id/2080100/</a></p> CLK @
271

ABC’s 9-11 movie is to be aired in the UK by the BBC and also in New Zealand, where it is still being promoted as a dramatization of the 9-11 Report.
The PROPAGANDISTS certainly were thorough!

Aren’t the libel laws a little friendlier to public figures in the UK? It might be an interesting test case anyway. Remember when Richard Perle was going to sue Seymour Hersh in the UK instead of here because their laws gave him a better chance of winning?

From Slate “Put Up Or Shut Up, Richard Perle.”
http://www.slate.com/id/2080100/

]]> By: bryan @ shotgunfreude http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285421 bryan @ shotgunfreude Sat, 09 Sep 2006 08:26:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285421 <p>It now seems like Disney was essentially co-opted by an internal group dedicated to churning out propaganda, of the type patently offensive to much of Disney’s customer base, as opposed to just making profits, like a good corporation is obliged to its shareholders to do.</p> <p>It seems like the Disney shareholders may have a decent lawsuit to bring against Disney, for its officers violating the business judgment rule and their duty to maintain and increase shareholder value, by (apparently) pouring tens of millions of dollars into a knowingly defamatory program that is fraudulently represented as being true to the 9/11 Commission Report despite factually contradicting it, and that any reasonable manager would have foreseen would offend and alienate from Disney the two thirds of Americans who disapprove of the Bush administration, thereby damaging the goodwill and customer loyalty attached to Disney and restricting the market for its products and services. Proving liability might be made easier by the evidence coming out that the film was intended by Disney’s outsiders to serve as propaganda, an intention unrelated to and contrary to the obligation to further Disney’s profits.</p> <p>Disney might mitigate that liability if they yank the miniseries, although the money has been spent and the damage is already underway.</p> <p>Of course, shareholder lawsuits aren’t my thing, but I’m looking forward to seeing what a corporate lawyer type thinks of this.</p> It now seems like Disney was essentially co-opted by an internal group dedicated to churning out propaganda, of the type patently offensive to much of Disney’s customer base, as opposed to just making profits, like a good corporation is obliged to its shareholders to do.

It seems like the Disney shareholders may have a decent lawsuit to bring against Disney, for its officers violating the business judgment rule and their duty to maintain and increase shareholder value, by (apparently) pouring tens of millions of dollars into a knowingly defamatory program that is fraudulently represented as being true to the 9/11 Commission Report despite factually contradicting it, and that any reasonable manager would have foreseen would offend and alienate from Disney the two thirds of Americans who disapprove of the Bush administration, thereby damaging the goodwill and customer loyalty attached to Disney and restricting the market for its products and services. Proving liability might be made easier by the evidence coming out that the film was intended by Disney’s outsiders to serve as propaganda, an intention unrelated to and contrary to the obligation to further Disney’s profits.

Disney might mitigate that liability if they yank the miniseries, although the money has been spent and the damage is already underway.

Of course, shareholder lawsuits aren’t my thing, but I’m looking forward to seeing what a corporate lawyer type thinks of this.

]]> By: Jeany http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285392 Jeany Sat, 09 Sep 2006 07:48:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285392 <p>This is a minor point: wasn’t it just a few short weeks ago that the right-wing bloggers were full of themselves right up to their brown eyeballs over busting a photographer who’d Photoshopped a little extra smoke into the Beiruit sky? Yeah, so now they’re mocking those of us who don’t appreciate the grotesque misrepresentation of the facts. Someone more clever than I will have to figure out how best to slap ‘em up side the haid with their hypocrisy. I try to avoid their sqalid stys.</p> This is a minor point: wasn’t it just a few short weeks ago that the right-wing bloggers were full of themselves right up to their brown eyeballs over busting a photographer who’d Photoshopped a little extra smoke into the Beiruit sky? Yeah, so now they’re mocking those of us who don’t appreciate the grotesque misrepresentation of the facts. Someone more clever than I will have to figure out how best to slap ‘em up side the haid with their hypocrisy. I try to avoid their sqalid stys.

]]> By: CLK http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285324 CLK Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:39:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285324 <p>ABC’s 9-11 movie is to be aired in the UK by the BBC and also in New Zealand, where it is still being promoted as a dramatization of the 9-11 Report.<br /> The PROPAGANDISTS certainly were thorough!</p> ABC’s 9-11 movie is to be aired in the UK by the BBC and also in New Zealand, where it is still being promoted as a dramatization of the 9-11 Report.
The PROPAGANDISTS certainly were thorough!

]]> By: CLK http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285321 CLK Sat, 09 Sep 2006 06:34:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/08/thou-shalt-not-lieand-all-the-rest-of-it/#comment-285321 <p>ABC’s 9-11 movie was CONCEIVED as the first film of right wing evangelical shadowy group called THE FILM INSTITUTE, was DIRECTED by the founder of THE FILM INSTITUTE, was promoted by David Horowitz & friends, all below the surface, of course ———-<br /> PROPAGANDA from start to finish. Add the cever plan to peddle their PROPAGANDA to schools across the country in cooperation with Scholastic. That’s right, Mickey is peddling PROPAGANDA TO SCHOOLCHILDREN. ABC should be ashamed if it shows this film.</p> ABC’s 9-11 movie was CONCEIVED as the first film of right wing evangelical shadowy group called THE FILM INSTITUTE, was DIRECTED by the founder of THE FILM INSTITUTE, was promoted by David Horowitz & friends, all below the surface, of course ———-
PROPAGANDA from start to finish. Add the cever plan to peddle their PROPAGANDA to schools across the country in cooperation with Scholastic. That’s right, Mickey is peddling PROPAGANDA TO SCHOOLCHILDREN. ABC should be ashamed if it shows this film.

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