Remember that Commandment, Cyrus Nowrasteh and David Cunningham? Boys, how do you square up all those contradictory notions competing in your heads? Let me see if I can get it straight. You love Jesus so much that you want to transform Hollywood from within, to fill television and film with His messages, which I assume you realize draw heavily on the Ten Commandments. Yet, you hate Bill Clinton so much that you are willing to lie to the world to smear his name for generations, by fabricating a narrative that bears false witness against Clinton and lays unfair blame for the 9/11 attacks at his feet. All to please an administration whose policies are killing thousands of Americans and Iraqis, with no end in sight. So, lying and killing is the way to spread the Jesus love?
Now, back to our regularly scheduled FDL programming.
It has been a head-spinning day full of investigative revelations concerning the "Path to 9/11" saga. The blogs have been on fire--just trying to keep track of it all over at Open Letter to ABC has kept me hopping. DailyKos, Democratic Underground and TPM Muckraker have been all over the story of the movie's ties to the secretive right-wing Christian group Youth with a Mission, and its sister company, The Film Institute. But Max Blumenthal, over at HuffPost, has also uncovered these groups' ties to uber-wingnut David Horowitz and the twisted tale of how this fraudulent f***-up of a film moved through the ABC production channels and got promoted via Rush Limbaugh and all of wing-nuttery.
Because this is America, I respect these folks' rights to speak their minds, but why is it that right-wingers must always have their actions cloaked in secrets and lies? Plastering the bi-partisan 9/11 Commission Report all over their zealous propaganda--and getting ABC to go along with it? How can Bob Iger allow the public airwaves to be so grossly misused? Trying to rewrite the history of 9/11 for political purposes is a crime against not only media, but our democracy. Mind-boggling is the word that comes to mind.
And the next word that comes to mind is libel. I got an email this morning from University of Miami School of Law professor Michael Froomkin, alerting me to his musings on what ABC will face if they air this mini-series, with all the lies against Clinton, Sandy Berger, Madeleine Albright, Richard Clarke, etc., intact.
Generally in the United States you can't libel a public figure. [*] Plus, libel claims based on fiction are obviously much harder than claims based on assertions in supposed non-fiction. But neither of these bars is insurmountable. And on the facts as reported, they could be surmounted surprisingly easily.
As one New York court put it not so long ago, a claim of "libel by fiction" requires that "the description of the fictional character must be so closely akin to the real person claiming to be defamed that a reader of the book, knowing the real person, would have no difficulty linking the two." The novel Primary Colors didn't meet that test as it didn't use real names, nor were the physical description of any character like the plaintiff in that case. But the 9/11 show differs from Primary Colors in a very basic way: It uses actors portraying real people with their actual names involved in activities that are a blend of real things they did and of the partisan imagination. I suspect it wouldn't be hard to get a court to see the difference from Primary Colors-like facts. Furthermore, even if ABC were to run a big disclaimer with the episode, that wouldn't necessarily suffice.
It's even harder to make out a case of libel when the victim is a public figure. Basically, to win you have to show that the author of the libelous work demonstrated a "reckless disregard for the truth." Given the public nature of the warnings that various scenes are false, if in fact they are false then I think this part of the case should be pretty easy.
If I were at ABC or Disney I'd be having a serious talk with my lawyers right about now.
And if I were a fly on the wall of Charlie Gibson's office this week, I'm sure I'd be witnessing a great deal of hand-wringing. As a former MSM reporter, I know how very hard it can be to tell the truth when your corporate overlords are more concerned with bottomlines than with informing the citizenry. I used to try to report on the founding of Fox News while at Variety. Every time I wrote a hard-hitting piece, I'd get hauled to the editor's woodshed and told I didn't seem to know how to play the game. "We're friends of industry, Jennifer," I was told. So, I was pretty darn thrilled to see Charlie and my local ABC affiliate covering the "Path to 9/11" controversy at all yesterday.
I would imagine, though, that the more ABC Newsies learn about how icky this project truly is, they must be chomping at their bits to see this movie yanked. As the budget and staff shrink in the news division, these folks have to watch ABC Entertainment throw $40 million at a piece of propaganda that will cast a dark shadow over ABC for years to come. And what do they think about being locked out of this whole project and getting side-swiped like this? Wouldn't it have made more sense for a network planning a two-night event about our great American tragedy to call on their own news division to research and vet an accurate portrayal of the events? Better to throw all the cash and responsibility at religious crusaders? That's just incredibly moronic judgment on behalf of Iger & Co. Disney Board: A man with this kind of judgment should be running your conglomerate?
If the news division had been in charge of crafting this program, you can bet that both co-chairs of the 9/11 Commission, rather than just Republican Thomas Kean, would have been interviewed. That begs the question: Where is Democratic co-Chair Lee Hamilton? Sources tell me he's back from Iraq this week, but hesitant to publicly jump into this fray. Mr. Hamilton should be heartened, as I am, that many conservatives have joined Democrats in demanding that ABC fix or pull this mini-series. This is not about defending Clinton, but about the integrity of our shared history.
Mr. Hamilton: Please stand up and be heard. Don't let Thomas Kean and ABC airbrush and misrepresent 9/11. Your silence is deafening, sir.
Despite all the public statements, signatures, protests, journalism and media commentary that should be convincing ABC to realize their gross mistake, it appears, as of this writing, that they still plan to put some lipstick on this pig and air it. I guess with $40 million on the line, they have to do something. But the still unanswered question is where exactly all the money came from? As Howard Dean put it today:
"The American people deserve to know who funded this $40 million dollar slanderous propaganda. Use of the public airwaves is a privilege conferred upon broadcasters in the public interest. It comes with a responsibility to the American people and a responsibility to the truth."
Did Youth With a Mission funnel money into this politically motivated movie? Unlikely , at least directly.Perhaps ABC put up all the money, and first hoped to recoup it in advertising, DVDs and foreign rights. Now, advertising is gone. And should ABC give up that primetime pulpit and Scholastic push for "Path to 9/11," it will be harder to sell DVDs and to hold onto those foreign rights deals. So, you can bet they'll keep pushing hard to keep foreign media pushing their "based on the 9/11 Commission Report" line.
But, it shouldn't be about money. On this fifth anniversary of September 11, 2001, it should be about coming together as a nation to mourn the lost lives and to consider where we are now. And our decisions going forward should be based on fact. Not fiction.
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Mr. Hamilton: Please stand up and be heard. Don’t let Thomas Kean and ABC airbrush and misrepresent 9/11. Your silence is deafening, sir.
Jennifer, You Rock!
“I’m a uniter, not a divider!” — ah, those were the days …
Why is’nt anyone talking about how disrespectful it is to the victims of 911 to air a fictitious account of who may be responsible? In reality that shopuld be the angle that people who oppose it should take, as that is really the most pathetic thing about it. It is such blatant disrespect!
Your daily gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 9/8/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 2 states
$2.90 plus 11 states
$2.80 plus 5 states
$2.70 plus 8 states
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Average national price: $2.683, down $.017
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Highest average price: Hawaii $3.298
Lowest average price: Ohio $2.404
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Dated Brent Spot $63.60, down $1.77
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Going into the weekend, oil prices dive following gas prices. End demand remains slack. We have a cooling economy, possibly changed driving habits, and the heating season has yet to start. Also no hurricanes threatening the Gulf coast or new crises.
I’m sure Disney’s legal department has made sure anything obviously slanderous has been cut, but that won’t cut it. If this POS has a deliberate Dem bashing agenda throughout which it probably does then you also have slant by omission to deal with. You can’t edit what isn’t there. Yank it, it can’t be fixed.
as someone said before me…
nixt!
*ilson
Is that you commenting over at Cup o’ Joe, or has someone stolen your identity?
Nick @ 5
Nick, even more disrepectful are the politicians and corporations who have been using those victims for their own gains ever since.
HAD ENOUGH?
it’s me — isn’t it a total trainwreck at the Joe Blog?
Here’s a little more Revelation about the Spooky Cult and Shadow Group promoting and producing this video.
Here’s a snippet from their site that disappeared from their site as soon as it got discovered by the left.
This is who is being allowed to re-write history to fit their dark agendas?
Full Post
Oh and by the way… The Director of this movie is the son of this cult’s founder.
If nothing else, this travesty of a “docu-drama” illustrates the methods used by the Bush administration to bend history and truth into whatever shape serves its purposes.
Nate @ 13
The Mouse that whored.
Hugh @#6, have you ever broke down gas prices on Red vs Blue states? I travel a lot and I know it is antipodal but sure seems that gas is cheaper in the so-called red states.
Thanks, Jennifer. Good stuff.
I am heartened that we seem to be past the intial outrage and instinctive backlash, and now people are starting to poke around in the underbrush.
I think all sorts of ugly little critters are going to be flushed out. I am especially interested in the machinations going on at Disney — they have a big, stinky tangle of motives for wanting to make nice with the White House, and I think it will be a good thing for all that stuff to get aired in the public media.
Amazing, how fast this collective reaction is coming together and producing results.
Liberals…society’s antibodies, yessiree.
Jennifer- thanks. And wow, what a week of news and activity. And, folks, please continue to contribute to the effort for Marcy Wheeler’s book. http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....your-help/
p.s. I have made a strong plea that the the book have an INDEX, for many reasons. Hope you are reading this.
Since ABC/Disney/Scholastic Inc decided to strrreeeettcchh the truth a wee bit with their historical recreations of events leading up to 9/11 (especially during President Clinton’s administration), I believe it behooves us to help them with some other historical recreations, but this time during the Bush administration, during which 9/11 actually happened:
President Bush, August 6th, 2001, being briefed by a CIA officer at his ranch. CIA officer reading from a Presidential Daily Briefing (PDB) entitled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike Inside the United States.”
Bush gets impatient, rips the PDB from the CIA officer’s hands, says “Okay, you’ve covered your ass” to the officer, and blows his nose with the PDB.
Then Bush tells the CIA officer to leave, because Bush has to go to the potty.
Bush then walks outside and heads to the ranch outhouse to take care of business, still clutching the PDB, muttering to himself that the ranch outhouse had almost run out of U.S. Constitutions and Bill of Rights toilet paper to wipe their asses with and this PDB (whatever it said, he thought) should work perfectly until they restock with some more U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights toilet paper.
The next scene shows Bush still at his ranch vacationing, sitting in an easy chair, dozing.
And the next scene, same thing.
And the next.
And the next.
With calendar days ticking by through August 2001 into September 2001.
Then a picture of the 9/11/2001 attacks appear on the screen, which is a split screen, with the other half showing Bush dozing in an easy chair.
———-
This is a fictionalized historical recreation of actual events preceding the 9/11/2001 terrorist attacks and is loosely based on the 9/11 Commissions Report.
Okay. Who’s got a video camera? Lights, camera, action!!
I think I smell a contest, with others coming up with their own fictionalized historical recreation of pre-9/11 events during the first eight months of the Bush administration that actually greased the way for the 9/11 hijackers to succeed.
Ms. Nix,
I’d lend you a hammer anytime.
Unless the governemnt owns ABC.
I think that all the Republican politicians funnelled and pooled their money for the Greatest Show on Earth! After all, come Nevember they could all be out of a job. This mass propagandza has to show that they were right to go to Iraq (by showing what happened because Clinton wasn’t tough wink wink). These guys are fighting for their lives! And Bushco is fighting for their lives. They must prove before the elections that war was the right idea. They set up the book people to get to the children. Hasn’t there been talks of letting kids vote?
It is like they are on death row.
Sen. Mitchell, stand up and be heard! He’s supposed to be a good guy and he’s chairman of the board of the evil empire.
“Nick, even more disrepectful are the politicians and corporations who have been using those victims for their own gains ever since.”
This is true, but I am talking about people who are trying to stop this framing it in a way that shows how unpatriotic it is.
Jennifer - you have been doing a terrific on all this! thank you!
Liberals — Society’s white corpuscles !
The scariest thing about kean’s comments (as recent as 7pm EST) is that Americans should just ‘watch’ and ‘learn’. Revisionist history books for Merkuns won’t have pics of Minnie’s GOoP stained blue dress.
Paid 2.57 today and also saw $2.49 one town over here in burbs north of Boston…just this
week on the cape, we paid $3.00 a gallon on the way home…something isn’t kosher around here!
Hugh @
6
Jennifer,
Thank you for all your work on this. I think your yoewomanlike efforts and the work of others at KOS, MyDD, TPM and here have put ABC/Disney in a Lose/Lose situation - damned if they do and damned if they don’t. Much more damned if they do IMHO.
But you and Matt deserve the gratitude of the whole progressive blog community. Kudos no matter which way this goes!
The ARROGANCE of these mother fuckers is TRULY ASTOUNDING. They think they can do this with no one, especially an ANGRY, DISGUSTED LEFT would not do a little research?
Do you admire the gall or despise the presumption?
THESE BASTARDS HAVE GOT TO GO!!!
OH, OH OH!!!
SLANDERdrama!
has anyone used that one yet?
I think i invented it!!!!
has anyone used that yet?
I had never been comfortable about Kean’s role in the 911 Commission and report. But, it looks like a few traitors are being flushed out in this one!
moeman @ 26
Har har! 43% in a recent CNN poll still think Iraq was behind 9/11.
Watch it = Lemmings = Cliff
Valley Girl @ 31
And we can only hope for more!
Know thine enemy.
When all is said and done, there is only one way to deal with George Bush, Cheney, Rove, Rice and the others. And that is politically. After the Democratic take-over this fall, it will be time for temporal justice. Dana Priest brought up the notion tonight, on “Washington Week”, of war crimes. There are many crimes this administration needs to be held accountable for. And it will be. As to the rest, the Bush Christian-hypocrite non-practioners of the Golden Rule, will reap “All That Heaven Allows”.
Just a drive-by to say hi. Great one, Jenn, as usual.
Nice to see “thunder” on Sadly, No! Gary sez hi too.
We have 60 wild fucking days to look forward to, y’all!
Hi All–Thanks for the kind words and helpful leads you’ve been showering on me this week. To person who mentioned David Cunningham’s father, I just figured I’d let the links carry that fact, but yes, indeed. You just have to wonder what kind of denial Iger is trying to sell himself that he can even consider airing this thing. Keep up all the pressure and hard work. The calls, emails, protests and such have to keep a-comin’over the weekend!
And re: an update ondonations for Marcy’s book. I’ll check with Jane, who left for LA today.
Busted- can we call them the *paper towels of the BushCo regime*? (reference to my own prior plumbing issues)
Which, reminds me of one of BobbyG’s comments- “the turd that won’t flush”. He was referring to LIEberman, but geez, it is such a generally useful expression…
Cozumel @ 32
GOopers rely on low information voters…like Tucker Carlson.
Californians:
The Governator had to apologize for his own “Macaca Moment”…sheesh racism is just breaking out all over the radical right party lately isn’t it?
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Does the $40 million price tag include the revenue lost by airing it commercial-free?
*ilson46201 @ 25
Can there be blue corpuscles?
Cozumel @
32
cnn’s polls are intellectually designed.
Al Gore’s PT911 statement:
By all accounts, “The Path to 9/11″ is riddled with inaccuracies and contains material that directly contradicts the factual findings of the 9/11 Commission. I am deeply concerned that ABC is considering going forward with their plans to broadcast this so-called docudrama. The lessons from the events leading up to that tragedy are too important to trivialize, and it would be fundamentally irresponsible to air such distortions.
Just saw that Harvey Keitel will be on Anderson Cooper 360 this hour discussing his participation. The tease was that he’s not happy about distortions in the movie. Interesting.
Good one, ifthethunderdontgetya– The Mouse that Whored!
And the Oracle, you’ve got a great idea started there–how about a dramatization showing Richard Clarke frantically chasing down various Bush administration officials, trying to get them to pay attention to his trove of Al Qaeda intelligence?
I wouldn’t be so quick to say that it is unlikely this group underwrote the movie, based on the page you linked to. It is quite possible that a network of donors is attached to the group. Would that be “direct” or “indirect” — it seems irrelevant, if such is the case.
I have to say that my mind is pretty much just reeling at all that is going on at once…Jennifer, you’ve done a great job pulling so much of this stuff together, and everyone’s been throwing links and new info and connections into the mix. It has to be obvious that it is next to impossible to keep much of anything secret - and there’s nothing like angry citzens with internet access to dig it up and send it around the world.
I understand people with deep faith, and I respect those who have it and live it, but I don’t understand these people who think their faith entitles them to run the world. I don’t understand people who will say and do things that are totally antithetical to most religions that I am familar with, and yet they still believe themselves to be standard-bearers of religion. I guess it’s a trait of any fundamentalist religion that anything goes as long as you do it for what you believe to be furtherance of your religion.
But I still don’t get it.
I really find myself near tears as I contemplate the actions of the Bush administration, the lengths to which they have gone to further their own agenda and to accrue more and more power, and the brazeness with which they have done it. It scares me more than I would like to admit, because where it used to just give off a faint whiff of something bad, now it just reeks of evil.
I have a strong sense of things coming together in a way that I hope signals the end of the Bush reign; there is so much at stake, and the price we are paying for it to continue is just too high.
It’s time for them to go.
Valley Girl @ 37
Lol! I told you how to power flush. *g*
If only it were so easy. :(
Eli–my understanding is that the production has cost $40 million, and they were originally planning to air it with commercials. Now that they won’t (whether they air it or not), they’ll only have DVD’s and foreign rights to make back their money. But many of us are trying to find out if ABC is really out the $40 million, or whether there were other investors, perhaps some shady right-wing group or even juicier, maybe a 501(c)3 religious group that isn’t allowed to make political contributions. But if this thing airs, it is little more than a GOP campaign commercial.
As a long time NJ resident, I had a lot of respect for Kean. He was a decent govenor and always appeared on the surface to a decent fellow.
Not anymore, he’s scum in my book. Great post and thank you for asking Lee Hamilton to speak out Jennifer.
Jen- I hope you’ve seen that there has been a plea for a snail mail address for M. T. Wheel(er) book donations from those who can’t/ would rather not use online methods.
ifthethunderdontgetya @ 38
His ratings are in the see ya later category
lol
http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/ratings/
There are two competing metaphors in my mind to symbolize this whole “docudrama” thing: (1) that this is like an iceberg with most of the reality lying under the surface; (2) that this is like turning over a rock that you saw a scorpion crawl under, and underneath you find all kinds of other horrors.
Both metaphors have the ring of truth, but so far I am leaning to number (2).
Anne @48 - Amen
What has been done to bring this travesty to the media’s attention (more like hanging in their faces and say LOOK you fools) is nothing short of a miracle.
But since we are capable to doing 2 things at once, we need to join this sham with the now published report of Phase II which shows unambiguously (Dana Milbank hisself even said it) that the Bush administration lied us into war. This repot and the lies it documents should join this bruhaha. Don’t want those lies to go unreported. Republicans are trying to say ‘nothing new here, move along.’
Jen Nix @ 50
As Digby points out, this is not good for the Disney brand, either. I think they want their public face to be totally apolitical for maximum appeal. It would be terrible business for them to expose themselves as right-wing shills.
A couple photos from the protest at Propoganda Central (aka Disney’s HQ) from today in this post
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....95843/7526
Joel @ 47
Joel–You may be right. I was hoping when I combed around that site to find out the IRS status, and that it was 501(c)3. I think you are right that it could be individuals known to YWAM. Certainly Loren Cunningham is a fundraiser, and likely knows folks with money who want to spend it to see YWAM and TFI infiltrate Hollywood. But I don’t thins YWAM could have directly financed it. I could very well be wrong. Let’s try to find out!
EPU’ed from the last thread.
Paul Wellstone was such a man, I believe. I’ve thought for years that his plane crash was no accident.
LindaH at #60 re Wellstone — I live in Minnesota and was so proud of him. And I, too, feel something was really suspicous about that crash.
“We’re friends of industry, Jennifer,” I was told.
I always suspected they talked to journalists like that.
BTW, here’s Jennifer:
http://commongroundmag.com/200.....ts3203.jpg
Late with the kudos, fab work Jen!
If a private group ponies up $40 million to a network to produce a show, doesn’t the FCC require that this be made known? Otherwise, anybody can buy indisclosed influence on broadcast media without facing public scrutiny. After all even lobbyists have to register, and I believe they also have to be able to show to whom they have given money.
LindyH @ 60
The Democrats kissing off Hackett was a stupid, stupid, stupid thing. He is the pugnacious prototype of what they need to be. “I said it, I meant it, I stand behind it.” - they need that tattooed inside their eyelids with luminescent ink.
BTW, I can’t help remembering that Disneyland, at least back in the early 50’s, searched everyone’s stuff on the way in, to make sure that no food or drink was included. Such food and drink were put in the trash. Draw your own conclusions.
Disney tries to appear apolictical, but somewhere in the back of my now senile mind I think I remember that old Uncle Walt himself was pretty far to the right and there has always been a pretty right-leaning undercurrent in Disney stuff. Does anyone recall that too?
Oh, and what does it say about the so-called liberal media that the producers sent out 900 copies of the movie to right-wing media outlets? Those poor, underserved wingnuts!
Matt Stoller pointed out today why this was such a BAD week for the GOP, ABC and Disney. His take on how far Disney went out on a limb on this only to get burnt is especially interesting:
The right-wing has thrived on making it painful to oppose them, and profitable to be with them. Though Disney’s executives are probably mostly pro-business Democrats, you can see how the company’s tax rate dropped from 2001-2003 every year under Bush. By 2003 the company was paying no taxes at all - Democratic supporter or not, it’s nice to be an executive where your company is paying less and less in taxes.
By contrast, this week, Disney’s brand took a massive hit because the company got sloppy and its internal controls were revealed as weak to non-existent. Not only is the film openly fraudulent, but it’s apparently really really bad. Like, loser, expensive afterschool special schlock bad, the kind of bad that makes me kind of glad I couldn’t get an advance copy. Right-wing death cultists make shitty directors, apparently. And more significantly, Disney’s executives were personally embarrassed, their happy little spa-drenched personas chided by no less than Bill Clinton.
That’s new. What’s also new is how Disney got no backup at all from the right-wing. No Republicans in office came to the company’s defense, the RNC offered no online petition, and there was little to no internet organizing on behalf of ABC’s film. Virtually no right-wing pundits defended the network, or the film in any meaningful way. The open disloyalty to right-wing allies is a really bad decision on the part of the right, since it means that if you back the right-wing, it’s not clear that they will back you. In such a situation, talented people considering a movement career will simply say ‘I don’t need this shit, I’m going to go make money in the private sector’.
This kind of incentive system is how movements are destroyed.
http://mydd.com/story/2006/9/8/163610/0566
Wellstone, Carnahan, the anthrax victims, and hey…remember Martha Mitchell? Wasn’t that a little wierd too? They’ll do anything.
petedownunder @ 66
Yep. I remember that too.
VG - I’m glad I’m not totally over the hill.
petedownunder @ 67
Well, there *was* Song Of The South…
Airing five hours of commercial-free propaganda is about as in-your-face obvious as it gets.
petedownunder @ 66
here’s what Wikipedia has to say about Walt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/W.....e_Congress
Eli @ 64
It was also a real stupid move when Hackett said on Hardball that Bush used to do coke based on reports. Not ready for prime time, IMO. Maybe next time.
Eli @ 41
Bleucocytes. Mendacityphages.
In my foggy recollection of my youth,I remember being real excited to be able to stay up long enough on Sunday night to watch ‘ The Wonderful World of Disney’. It was right after ,the always exciting, ‘Mutual of Omaha’s, Wild Kingdom’.
I adored Walt Disney.
It was only after I was in my early twenties, (watch the fogie jokes), That I started hearing about Walt’s inner workings. Quite the surprise, I must say. I’m thinking that if Walt were still alive, This might have been right up his alley, sad to say.
But now is not then,computer controlled animation was his dream,and his dream was realised.
Now, Disney Inc has fucked up, royally.
And we’re on it. It’s a small world has a completely new meaning.
OldCoastie @
24
I agree.
It was also a real stupid move when Hackett said on Hardball that Bush used to do coke based on reports. Not ready for prime time, IMO. Maybe next time.
I’m not sure there’ll be a next time. I think he’s pretty disgusted.
klangfarben @17
sounding your colors are you???
yes,
Disney — they have a big, stinky tangle of motives for wanting to make nice with the White House,
have they considered the White House of 2009?
Jennifer - Thanks. I did not recall that he was a red baiter too, of course I was just a todler in those days. A very political todler.
VG - more plumbing advise at 6:17pm on last thread. This time, from a plumber:).
Wikipedia has some interesting information on 9/11 Commission chairman and “Path to 9/11″ advocate Thomas Keane. I don’t know if it’s been posted or linked here:
“Criticism
Just as some had criticized Kissinger’s nomination, Kean’s leadership of the Commission also drew some criticism. Some alleged that Kean did not have the depth of foreign policy and national security expertise needed to manage an investigation so integral to the future of American national security[1].
Kean also had several business relations that were viewed as potentially conflicting. He is a board member of Hess Corporation, a petroleum company with business in the Middle East. He had purported business relations with Khalid bin Mahfouz, a multi-billionaire accused of supporting al-Qaeda[2]. Other Commission members were similarly criticized for potential business and political conflicts.
Once the Commission began its work, some critics argued that Kean, the Commission members, and the Commission staff almost all had various business and political conflicts that made it difficult to lay blame on their political allies. One prominent example was the Commission’s Staff Director, Philip D. Zelikow, who had served on George W. Bush’s Presidential transition team and had worked closely with U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, a key Commission witness, in the George H. W. Bush administration.
Kean has also been criticized for using his role as the chairman of the 9/11 Commission in order to make profit, such as his book, Without Precedent. Some also argue that he has lost credibility do to his endorsing the made for TV movie, The Path to 9/11. The film features some scenes which are known to be unfactual, according to those involved and the official 9/11 Commission Report. This is also tied to the fact that his son Tom Kean Jr. is in a tight election for US Senate against Sen. Bob Menendez and to show former Clinton Administration officials as responsible for 9/11 would potentially benefit his son in his Senate race.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Kean
Anne @ 47
When I see what we can do using the Internet I am afraid for it. The mantra is, “Net neutrality. Voter verified ballots.”
njr @ 79
I can see it now, the new administration decides to move the national respository for nuclear waste from Yucca Mountain to the Matterhorn.
Jen, have you seen this PT9/11 info?
http://www.patriciaheatononlin.....eries.html
via here;
http://www.patriciaheatononlin.....index.html
njr @ 79
apparently not. and, yeah, klangfarben is an especially interesting nom de blog.
I love Hugh!
petedownunder @ 66
I do actually and my BIL works for his daughters winery in Napa. I don’t hold her responsible for this though. Sins of the father? Nah. So I won’t mention the name of said winery ; )
Petedownunder! Wow you got the memory wheel going. I just did a quick google and came up with this from Digby. Haven’t even read the whole thing, bec. I wanted to get out there to FDLers.
http://digbysblog.blogspot.com.....2408010244
~~~Atrios suggested earlier today that it might be time to start talking about the Mouse’s rather “ugly” past and I agree. Whenever they wingnuts go on about “liberal” Hollywood, I always have to laugh. It’s the oldest story in the book. []
Apparently, Walt Disney’s creepy rightwing spirit remains at the heart of the Disney empire as even today they go out of their way to cater to the religious right, help Republicans win elections and airbrush reality. Where once they tainted liberals as being communist sympathisers, they now blame them for 9/11.~~~~ !!!!!
I think this was asked before but does anyone know if Eisner OK’ed this disaster as a conservative response to Fahrenheit 911 after he declined to distribute it?
Nix…you’re on fire!
Eli @ 78
Maybe not. Wesley Clark wasn’t ready for prime time either *sigh* but he’s been in the trenches since
The Spooky Cult- YWAM, has branches all over the place and require their recruits to pay for their own indoctrination/service. They also use creepy cult lingo- like calling their various hq’s “the base”, (aka al qaeda!). When you look at their boosters such as Promise Keepers and Samaritan’s purse, it would seem to me they would have the kinds of friends who could advise them on how to bring in the bucks and then spend it to grow their business.
Maybe not. Wesley Clark wasn’t ready for prime time either *sigh* but he’s been in the trenches since
I don’t think Wes got ratfucked by his own party, though.
Hackett did publicly show support for Brown eventually, so maybe there’s hope.
GrandmaJ @ 60
Nice to see you, GrandmaJ. I have three grandchildren of my own. Interesting times we’re living in, yes?
I did a little nosing at the FEC and OpenSecrets this noon, and didn’t turn up Nowrasteh or Loren Cunningham as individual donors under those names. If they’re giving to politicians - I’m assuming they’d be donating to the neocons and wingnuts - it’s not that way. Maybe as a company, although then you’d have to know what name to look for; production companies are like oil promoters, created for the one use and then they’re gone.
Jen, someone’s posted an online video here showing the filming of this piece of crap in Toronto last fall.
Don’t know if it will be useful to those “poking around in the underbrush”, but just in case….
P J Evans @ 96
Or Republican Bagmen…sort of like Jack Abramoff.
John Casper @ 77
let me correct this now (no brains, Friday night)… Jennifer! you have been doing a terrific JOB on all this!! Thank you!!! (it’s also been very nice to have the Spotlight feature - thank you, Mark!)
Cozumel @ 74
Yes, but it pales in comparison to actual lies about wmds etc. Hackett is definately the kind of man (along with others) our party needs front and center these days. He stirs the pot and adds the spice of controversy. We need fighters and when confronted on missteps he will listen and back down with reason. Isn’t that refreshing?