[original photo: AP/AP/Paul Sancya] – pic cross posted at DR.
There’s no evidence Saddam Hussein had a relationship with Abu Musab al-Zarqaqi and hi Al-Qaida associates, according to a Senate report on prewar intelligence on Iraq. Democrats said the report undercuts President Bush’s justification for going to war.
Hell, I could’ve told them that at half the cost to U.S. taxpayers.
No, seriously, the Senate’s "naivete" regarding the run-up to the Iraq war is utterly beguiling. If only I’d realized that our elected officials had been skipping around the Senate office building like live-action Hummel figurines in their dirndl skirts and liederhosen, daisy-filled baskets swinging on their arms, pigtails flapping in the wind, oblivious to the war-profiteering machinations of the Bush regime, I wouldn’t be so hard on them for coming to this conclusion rather late in the game. But as it stands, the Senate’s hands are just as bloodied as Dick Cheney’s and Donald Rumsfeld’s for not questioning the junta more thoroughly before it patted them on the head and sent our soldiers off to die.
Now here’s the $64 trillion question: what is the Senate going to do with this information, hmmm? Use it as an excuse to buy more gingham?
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watertiger!
Frist?
totally awesome post and you nailed it!
funny images dancing thru my head– LOL.
tragicomedy at its best.
TPM Muckraker has picked up on the christian cult connection to “Path to 9/11″
http://tpmmuckraker.com/
Slippery, too.
Great picture too!
Ouchie! I think congress just fell, skinned their knees and ruined liederhosen. LOL!
Actually, I’m glad that this report is coming out now — just prior to the November elections.
If it had really come out 2 years ago, back when it was first asked for, it would have had no effect at all.
ConcernedCitizen @ 7
Fair point.
That’s a goofy photo to begin with… the banana just emphasizes it!!
I’ll be mightly pissed if this ‘Path to 9/11′ was funded by extreme fundamentalists. It might take some of the pressure off of Disney. But, not really, they actually took the money and made it…..
I tried like hell to tell them for free! All those letters and phonecalls and talking to everyone I could……
aargh.
Bush administration officials have insisted on a link between the Iraqi regime and terror leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Intelligence agencies, however, concluded there was none
….It discloses for the first time an October 2005 CIA assessment that prior to the war Saddam’s government “did not have a relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward Zarqawi and his associates.”
Republicans countered that there was little new in the report…
well, I’m glad I’m beginning to agree with the Republicans again, I knew the pendulum would swing and I’d have to start criticizing the democrats sooner or later, “sooner” might be sooner then I thought
although it will come as a shock to those republicans who refuse to agree with any information that tells them otherwiase, Republican politicians are right on this, tony snow is right, there is NOTHING new in this report, there were NO ties to al qaeda and osama bin laden, and the administration KNEW there were no ties…this is old news, the new part is now there are no Republicans that can deny it, even though they might want to show blogs and cartoons that tell them otherwise
really the only thing new here is the fact that now it becomes part of government, documented record…the CIA told this to us already, the presidents own aids told this to us already, there really isn’t anything new
more from the report as it becomes available to the public
the president refutes;
nothing new with his claims there either, when we know as a FACT the president withheld the information that told him Iraq was NOT a threat and had NO ties to international terrorism, these facts were witheld from the rest of us becuase with no doubt we would not have squandered our resources in Iraq if we were shown the intel the adminstration had at the time
interesting interperattion…the intel befoe we attacked Iraq was precise, there was NO failure, Iraq was no threat, the administration cherry picked what they showed to congress and the American people so they could bring forward the plans from the PNAC
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiinc.pdf
Should filmmakers use fictionalized scenes to dramatize the events leading up to the September 11 attacks?
Yes 16% 8116 votes
No 84% 43886 votes
Total: 52002 votes
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CNN.com has buried the Senate report in the Politics section page, with no headlin of any kind on the front page. The lead story is ‘Bucky’ Phillips. Nothing to see here, move along….
Slightly OT – Did anyone hear a report on NBC last night – I understand Keith Olbermann also mentioned on it – regarding Israel having a 90-98% effective anti-IED device that the US is refusing to get for our soldiers because the American company hasn’t come up with a finished product yet but probably will by 2011? I’ve searched and searched and cannot find any link to any information like this yet the person who told me he heard it is extremely reliable.
Thanks!
xyz.. when can we start calling this mess the YWAM-Disney scandal? I think the tingling in my toes may not be paresthesia but the first sign of schadenfreude.
ROFL – live action Hummel figurines it is! That is the most perfect description I’ve seen so far. Lieberhosen and all. ;)
And a fond avuncular Donald Rumsfeld watches them cavort, saying goodness, gosh, or golly –
And sometimes, “The next person who talks to me about needing a post invasion plan to secure Iraq is FIRED”
or something like that.
Frist has the coloring for a
HimmelHummel figure.Great post. I think one important point of this Friday, we’re all going home story is that it will sap the attention all weekend away from the set of Bush/Rummy/Condi distraction speeches. Yes, we all knew this, but . . . the revealed/reconfirmed dishonesty and reminder about why we shouldn’t be in Iraq will refocus on that issue, despite the Administration’s best efforts to distract us, and allow the questions to be sharper on the Sunday shows and may even change the selection of guests. And the Senators have much to answer for, especially Roberts and Lieberman.
*xyz @ 4
The more I learn about the history of YWAM, the more I believe we need to put the story across as this:
SLANDEROUS ABC 911 MOVIE PRODUCED BY ANTI-SEMITIC CULT. WAS ABC DUPED OR A WILLING PARTNER?
Report: Miami journalists on U.S. government payroll
The Associated Press
Published: September 8, 2006
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap…..s_Paid.php
EPU’d while typing.
I think I just made a modest donation to the book endevour.
When I tried to print out the reciept, Firefox crashed. I’m pretty sure it went through though.
It’s not much, I’m still getting back on my feet from the little episode in July.
But even if it’s not much, it made me feel good. I have been coming here a long time now.I truly feel like it’s the very least I can do.
Hopefully I’ll get to do it again next week.
Dee @ 14
Maybe the Israelis can give us some in exchange for the cluster bombs we rushed to them…
no I did not hear anything about that.
Wonder what the recently self-described Educator-in-Chief will have to say about this report?
Uhh.h….make that “Educaterer-in-Chief.”
_
No kidding, watertiger. Sometimes I feel like I should go around the Congressional offices to explain that Bugs Bunny isn’t a real rabbit, and ducks can’t really talk, either.
what is the Senate going to do with this information
Classify it?
Mary4 @ 24
This is the declassified, redacted version.
Dee @
14
MSNBC / NBC were covering this as their top story a few days ago; here’s one link to get you started (google if you need more):
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14704366/
–MarkusQ
I never bought the Al Qaeda – Saddam connection. Not even a little. Because I have lived and traveled in the middle east, I knew a little about the geo-politics of the region. Strange that hardly anyone in the Senate could spend a little time educating themselves, rather than relying on info spoon fed to them by a spoiled little frat boy and his minions . . .
But I do remember the few Senators who didn’t buy it. I am specifically remembering the impassioned speech by Senator Byrd of W VA, who has been around long enough to remember other foreign adventures that went very wrong. Too bad there were more with his courage.
Had a pair of liederhosen myself once. Pretty sturdy garments, those. Bet some Senators have just about split the seams of theirs by now, though. Gonna be feeling the breeze where they’d least choose to, doncha know . . .
scarecrow @ 25
Impeach and try for war crimes???
iowa christine @ 1:07 pm (#10) – It might let Disney and ABC off the hook, but I think you can be sure that someone at Disney/ABC is going to pay for this fiasco with his job or a demotion.
As for the literal question of who paid for this tripe, I don’t see any proof that the Christian Youth actually paid for this thing, but it’s clear why they had such an influence.
angie @ 11
Well, angie, I think they’re finally starting to hear you.
I’m going to repeat this request from the last thread, in case anyone can give me some help. I have a draft of a few issues, but even that might be too long to catch the interest at TVNZ news. It is due to air in less than 35 hours.
SOS….Anyone available for some help? Excuse me, but I’m butting in here with a request for some quick help. It is Saturday morning here in NZ (7:45) and I have just come out of tv ignorance to realize that The Path to 9/11 is scheduled to show tomorrow night here. That is of course, ahead of the release there. I tried to call the TV station, but so far, I get recordings that say that they have gone home for the weekend and call on Monday. It is one of the charms of NZ, I suppose.
Anyway, I called the news bureau and they asked me to send them an email, that summarized the controversy and with appropriate links to help them get a sense of it.
Can you help a groggy expat who is coming to all of this rather late to put together a concise narrative, with less partisan links?
If so, I would really appreciate this. I’ll keep tuned for any possible suggestions.
Dee @ 16,
I heard that outrageous report on Olbermann’s show last night. I haven’t checked around to see if anyone else has picked up on it.
I’d give the mainstream media oh, say, another two weeks before they discover it.
And that’s being generous.
Love the imagery water tiger! Dirndls!
You know how we all watch what they say, how they say it and why they say the things they do?
I posted a diary last night on Kos on the fact that in his speech yesterday, Bush said he believed Osama was responsible for 911.
Why does he make sure to say he just “believes” this now? Didn’t we know this as a fact? Hasn’t he always expressed this as fact?
Did you realize that the Osama tape released just before the 2004 election was the first time Osama claimed responsibility for the attacks? But I thought we “knew” that long before that.
There is a shift in the force going on WRT Osama and the Taliban and we need to watch this. Just this week Pakistan has some sort of peace accord with the Taliban. And first reports said they would leave bin Laden alone if he behaved himself.
Even here in Canada our Defence Minister has changed his tune about the war in Afghanistan. Last week he was all gung ho for more war and now he’s saying we can’t defeat the Taliban militarily (read that diary at The Next Agenda link in my name).
This is all about how they throw so much shit at us it’s hard to keep track. What story was it that the NYT didn’t want to bother to cover because it was old news for “everybody”. Lack of WMDs? Jeez, I can’t keep track.
ok, so there’s this guy called banksy, who is an english graffiti artist, who does simply amazing stuff. well, he just hit disneyworld with one of the best pieces i’ve seen him do: through the Rocky Mountain Railroad ride, he left an inflatable doll, shackled hands and feet, wearing an orange jumper and a black hood (gitmo uniform). it’s powerful and irreverent and tragic and unapologeitc and free, as so much of his stuff is…
the link:
http://www.woostercollective.com
his website:
http://www.banksy.co.uk
Ed*ard Teller @
18
http://www.geocities.com/promo777/ywammap.htm
MarkusQ @ 1:17 pm (#26) – Taylor Marsh wrote an article about this subject yesterday. I and some other semi-informed folks wrote comments you ought to read, as well.
Cujo359 @ 29
It is still murky, more so than the usual Hollywood financing labyrinth.
Ed*ard Teller @ 18
E*ard Teller – I couldn’t agree more. This is a great way to frame it.
The important thing to note, RIGHT NOW, is that we still have another hour or two to make A SECOND ROUND OF PHONE CALLS AND EMAILS to everyone at ABC and Disney who we have already contacted.
Everyone at ABC and Disney needs to be aware of the connection between this film and a bizarre cult.
And they need to know that word is spreading that this film is not only inaccurate, it is also the product of a bizarre cult interested in indoctrinating the general public with its brand of ideology.
ACT NOW! Get the word out to ABC and Disney before the close of this business day.
Dee-
It’s called TROPHY and was made in Israel. It’s been tested by the Pentagon around 30 times and has been found to be over 90% effective. But it will not be purchased because the Army has a contract with Raytheon to produce a similar weapon. The TROPHY system is ready today, as you stated, the Army’s version won’t be until 2011. This was from the piece on KO last night.
Mary4 @
24
Dump it on Friday and call it “old news.”
Yeah, assholes, WE know it’s old news, but since you didn’t act on it when it was NEW news, could you please act on it now that it’s OLD news?
Thanks, Angie & MarkusQ – I searched on MSNBC earlier and found nothing.
Dee @14 – not ieds, rpgs. Would that someone had something so effective for ieds. If the reports are right on the anti-rpg systems, it is a very shameful way to treat our troops.
Do they have a shade of Ricky yellow? Oh, Lieber lemon.
ccmask @ 19
Sorry, but we’ve received our quota of outrages for today. But please try again tomorrow. ;>)
NZ ex-pat, try this:
http://www.editorandpublisher……1003118768
E&P also had a full recap of the whole movie — does anyone have that link again? I know I saw it earlier.
OT – Conservatives On The Path to 9/11: ‘Unacceptable,’ ‘Defamatory,’ ‘Strewn With A Lot of Problems,’ ‘Zero Factual Basis’
From the last thread, there’s a possible link that never occurred to me til today.
Prof @ 67
And where did the $40 million come from, which is the cost of this dog?
That’s the part I’m most interested in. And I haven’t found any more yet than you already listed, though I keep looking.
The thing about YWMA sends chills up my spine, because their techniques of recruiting young people who really want to serve Christ, isolating them, indoctrinating them, having them do their own fundraising…all of that is a page out of Sun Myung Moon’s playbook. He did all that in the seventies and beyond. During the Watergate hearings, he had a large group of his followers on the steps of the Capitol building singing something about “The Generation of Righteousness” in support of Richard Nixon. He was adamant about supporting Nixon.
Moon (in the seventies, when I was following what they were doing) had more wealth that Croesus dreamed of.
scarecrow @25 – I was being facetious. Given all the currently public docs that are being rounded up and retroactively classified … I guess it isn’t really very funny if you think about it though. :(
Dee, Lisa Myers reported that on Countdown last night. Scarborough was to have the next part. KO said there are five parts so don’t know when the other three will be shown. Perhaps the complete report has been shown on earlier shows and then recycled by KO and Scarborough. NBC does that a lot.
For NZ ex-pat’s, sake I’m going to ask for the mod early, re my 46. Thanks!
From previous thread:
Richmond @ 70
Yes.
*xyz @ 39
The Cunningham son tied to the film isn’t nearly as scary as his dad, who made weird deals with Central American dictators for years. Strange how the majority of Mayan towns in Guatamala near where the elder Cunningham’s missions were set up disappeared with all their inhabitants.
Ted Kennedy has issued a statement on this issue already
by the way, check out the blogroll, It’s pretty good (Yes, FDL is right on there)
Wow, you ARE fast, mod! Bravo(a)!
I have to say that I derive very little satisfaction from telling these assholes “I told you so.”
Here’s a key YWAM website.
Hurry – who knows how long it will be up?
Gentlemen, start your screenshots.
http://ywambases.org/
Mary4 @ 47
Yes. I knew. My reply was only half serious, too, because I understand they chose to release only a small fraction of the work they were assigned to do, and only the parts least objectionable to Roberts. There are still 2-3 other bigger shoes [chapters] to fall, relating to the manipulation/distortion of intelligence, though not likely soon or as long as Roberts is chair. But that may change???
If you look at the YWAM website, it seems very professional and they appear to be located worldwide. It seems within the realm of possibility that they may have had the financial resources to fund some part of the Path to 9/11 project.
off-topic, but I can’t resist (I’ve had a little blog-crush on timewarp for a while…)
for Timewarp xoxo
Enjoy!
timewarp @
27
Somebody was askin’ about Mark and Krista:
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Bionic – Jump back to last hour or so of
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..s-of-news/
Enough head spinning (links) possibilities there for a dozen impeachment trials before the Hague.
watertiger @ 1:30 pm (#56) I have to say that I derive very little satisfaction from telling these assholes “I told you so.”
Bitterness is never fun.
Secret 9/11 Miniseries Planned
Monday, May 02, 2005
By Roger Friedman
Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,155247,00.html
In Levin’s floor speech today he divulged that George Tenet admitted (in testimony to the intel cmte in 7/06) that he was pressured by the admin to issue a statement distinctly at odds with the CIA the nite before the Congressional debate… the other chapters should be interesting.
OT: I recommend “The Torturer’s Apprentice” posted today at antiwar.com by Ray McGovern, http://www.antiwar.com/mcgovern/?articleid=9665.
Lotus and who else? Thanks for the link on the conservative comments. I will send the first two emails off and see if there is any response to them.
Here’s another YWAM link. This has tons of interesting information:
http://www.ywam.org/Default.asp?bhcp=1
More for NZ Expat from E&P:
http://www.editorandpublisher……7747862498
*xyz @ 1:30 pm (#57) – It just warms my heart to read religious organizations talking about “bases” :-/ Looks like they have a couple of companies stationed in Perth, Australia.
It appears possible that they could have financed at least a portion of the TPT911 program.
Ditto Wigwam @ 66
BTW – from the Forbes article on Specter getting all grumbly with Feingold re: the eavesdropping bill:
I love that Feingold (that lefty) gets a letter from five, THREE of whom are Republicans, but the real insight is Specter ignoring the injuction Judge Diggs was willing to issue.
Specter and Lieberman – legends in their own minds.
Mary 4,
Now you’ve gone and done it. You’ve made Joe cry.
Each new event where progressive blogs take up an issue of basic unfairness or falsity presented by the media, or the questionable past, professionalism or qualifications of some new MSM personality, we learn something.
We’re learning a lot on this one, aren’t we? One thing I’m learning is that there is no way in the world that the MSM can do a job like the progressive blogs have done this past eight days on the PT911 scam. By the middle of this past week, there might have been 10,000 of us out there calling, faxing, e-mailing, investigating. Maybe more people, even. We often criticize the MSM for the way they handle stories, and they usually deserve the criticism we deal them. But there’s no way they could ever do what we’ve done here.
Part of their cautious approach which produces such a paucity of real news stories is because their personality-oriented setups look toward glamorous examples of what journalism is and has been – Barbara Walters, Mike Wallace, etc. We here look at Ed Murrow, Sy Hersh, Greg Palast, Naomi Klein, etc.
The MSM will never be able to do this for many reasons. They’re treading water as we learn, grow and evolve. Very rapidly. Let’s hope we’re doing that fast enough…..
ccmask @
19
this is disgusting, too. Propaganda makes us so small and uninformed-- I wouldn’t trust us at all if I were another world leader or their people.
Which thread had Prof. Foland’s letter to Mitchell? NZE really needs to see that one too!
I’m about to get busted by a thunderstorm — can somebody else pick up what I gotta drop here? Thanks, and see y’all later!
Bionic says
Pakistan has pretty consistently supported the Taliban and left the NW frontier and Osama alone. The shift is that Musharraf once again admits it, and Karzai seems to be giving up on calling him out on it.
Bionic @ 1:19
What are you talking about? We have always been at peace with the Taliban!
Ed*ard Teller @ 38
True, it’s still very murky as to who really paid for this propaganda. But, should the evidence fall out that this ‘religious’ group funded (or other very serious hand in) this ‘film’ and Disney/ABC know about the group, they should still be held in contempt. Actually, they probably should still be held in contempt by the general public for trying to pass off a fictional movie as a factual documentary.
angie @ 29
(Checks electoral Magic 8-Ball.)
Answer hazy. Ask again later.
BREAKING: Albright and Berger Call On ABC To ‘Withdraw’ Path to 9/11
Do Hummel shorts come with codpieces?
Mary4 @ 81
yes, lovely porcelain ones in a variety of shades– you gotta pay extra though. There are under the dirndl models too…
Albright and Berger – hehehehehe
Upping the ante some, sending a direct request to Kean, who just happens to have actual knowledge and be Executive Co-Producer, in his individual capacity.
ROFL.
RawStory headline: New ‘hard-hitting’ DNC video slams Bush’s ‘new found interest’
in Osama bin Laden two months before elections: Developing…
Well, as me to me points out above, this is already being spun as “old news,” and I think Tony Snow (bet he’s got a closet full of yellow ties) hit the podium today with the tired old talking point that the entire Congress knew what the intelligence was, blah, blah, blah, what’s everyone all excited about? Just another Friday afternoon in Washington, right?
But I think it will not be long – and I suspect it will be the blogs that have to do the heavy lifting – before there is a side-by-side comparison between what the report reveals and what was being spoon-fed to Congress, and to us.
And I can’t help but think that, despite the “ho-hum” theme that is being pushed, that lots of GOP Senators and Representatives are hitting the campaign trail this weekend and will be fending off questions about the report that they do not want to have to answer.
The more I think about it, the more it seems like the White House has known that this report was coming out, and would not be kind to them, and so, they hit the circuit for some tough-talking speeches, made sure to demonize the liberals, and raised the specter of Nazis and jackboots. Jesus, these people just do not get it, and I am sick to death of being branded a terrorist-lover because I want us to bring our kids home from a war that should never have been undertaken, have a real foreign policy that isn’t just about guns and ammo, and I want my civil liberties protected from those who can’t seem to accrue power any other way.
I’m also sick of 9/11 anniversaries that have become little more than ratings-wars and bonanzas for the media. They don’t have to show me the pictures, really they don’t. I can close my eyes and re-live almost every minute of that day, starting with the first report of the first plane hitting the WTC, to watching the TV in someone’s office as the second one hit, while my kids were at school, and my husband was out of town, and downtown Baltimore was gridlock, to the fear when the Pentagon was hit, knowing I was only 40 miles from DC. I remember it quite well, thank you.
And all my government seems to have done ever since is take a tragedy and turn it into something that has failed to honor the lives lost and forever changed, and they have done it for reasons that have had less to do with patriotism and courage, and too much to do with power and greed and opportunism.
/rant (for now, anyway)
watertiger @
56
Even less satisfying is my repeated daily cry: “I’m telling you so right now, asshole!”
The next “Revelation” will be the Iran/INC ties illuminating the US true role of “cat’s paw”.
Also no news to those paying attention these past 5 years.
NZE, twolf’s 80 is a goldmine for you.
Bye for now.
Here is how the program is being marketed world-wide…this is the NZ promo….http://cosmosweb09.bcst.re2.yahoo.com/scp_v3/viewer/index.php?pid=16469&rn=240896&cl=793700&ch=717424
Saying it is The Official True Story. Getting my ire up in the morning.
Jacqrat at 60
Serious blushing and goosebumps!
(and I am serious barefooter from way back)
Anne @ 85
More of the same lying talking points from Tony Falsetto, anyway. I seem to recall that it had already been demonstrated that every member of Congress was not given the same intelligence the White House had. (And if the White House knew goddamned well that everything they were claiming about Iraq was a fabrication, as is becoming harder and harder to refute, then that becomes pretty much a given anyway.)
angie @65 – Tenet was back testifying in July of this year?
Ed*ard – You left out Kitty (gushes over Russsh) Couric
Angie – amazing on what you highlighted for us on Tenet admitting he was forced to say what he did.
HOW DO WE GET THIS CULT BACKING of 9/11 TO MSM – and Quickly! ????????
All the fast (good, if shocking) news today and yesterday has given me a headache (literally). Think also about the outing of Plame in this all (she knew there were no WMD and was dangerous to the Bushies for this reason).
twolf1 @
80
During the Begala/Jeffrey segment, Wolfie acted as if he had just been handed a copy of the Albright/Berger letter, “SitRoom style!”
lotus @ 75
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..g-cuppa-6/
scroll down to #77 for Professor Foland’s letter
Someone near and dear to Albright and Berger should check out the slander and libel laws in the countries which will be showing this…even if they couldn’t get satisfaction in the US, they might in Australia or NZ. Again, this shows a day ahead of your time, so our deadlines are coming fast. And NZ news is a total snooze on Sat and Sun.
Anne/Rant 85 – all too true. But now they are getting called on it, every day, and many more of the American people are just as angry about it as you are. And at some point — November — the President and his party are going to hear just how the country feels about them.
TeddySanFran @ 86
Speaking of which (WARNING – spew alert):
http://www.vanityfair.com/feat…..0907fege01
Mary– that is what I heard him say; here’s my post from earlier today.
I just don’t get how this president and vice-president cannot be impeached, and the lot of them brought up on criminal charges – I just don’t. Is it that there is no broom big enough to sweep them out? The longer this goes on the more they have in common with cockroaches…they never seem to go away, either.
Why does Leslie say that PA-Senate is “one of the nation’s most competitive races?” Doesn’t he really mean that little Ricky is “one of the nation’s most endangered incumbents?”
Surely, all of the polls I’ve seen show that to be the case, and not as characterized by Wolf, “SitRoom style!”
Anne @ 97
I can’t imagine that either one is sleeping too well, given the distinct possibility that the Dems might take back at least one house in November.
HOW DO WE GET THIS CULT BACKING of 9/11 TO MSM – and Quickly! ????????
You take any relevant post by Jennifer/Christy/Jane, or even this one, and use the Spotlight feature, and in your personal “comment,” add the links that have shown up here. Send to MSNBC and CNN reporters/hosts who have been covering this, followed by other network anchors and papers.
Dear Mods,
There’s some trash seeping in under the door at the end of the ACTION thread; if it’s any example of what y’all save the FDL family and friends from being subjected to on an hourly basis, God’s grace on ‘ya.
Late summer/early fall fashion update……yellow is the “new” red.
Anne – Even if we take over the House, there will still be lots of the Goobies there who will cause havoc – and limp wristed Demos. Also, Bush has packed not only the supreme court but also many of the federal courts where other suits might be brought. Not a lawyer – but, I am pretty good at tea leaf reading.
This so-called cult that allegedly produced this movie is a cut-out, don’t you think?
It seems so convenient; a group that may/may not be offshore, conveniently comes up with 40M for production, can get a show aired on ABC without sponsors.
Too tidy.
Like the contracts for tens of millions that a mere college kid, with no cred save for working as a Repug operative, lands with DoD for psyops, ostensibly on Iraqis and Afghanis and on internet and news media only — not to mention even larger contracts let for similar work by Rendon and SYColeman…
Like the 9 BILLION U.S. DOLLARS in cash that went walkabout in Iraq, the loss greeted with little more than shrugs…
Like filming in Ontario, because everyone knows filming in the U.S. involves so much more legal hassle…
Hmm. Tidy. No loose ends here. Quick, look over there, another video of OBL!!!
re: watertiger’s foto at top, W sure walks like a chimp!
*xyz @ 1:37 pm
Here’s something I found, thanks to the link you provided:
Since the organization does not operate as a centralized agency, it might not be possible to find a form 990 for it. Looking at Guidestar’s Web site, I see a lot of Youth with a Mission organizations; most of those organizations required to file a form 990 with the Internal Revenue Service appear to be exempt from taxation under Internal Revenue Code Section 501(c)(3).
If someone reading this happens to see an address for YWAM’s headquarters, please reply on this thread or a subsequent one. Any information you provide might expedite the search for whatever financial information is available for YWAM. Thank you in advance for your help.
Anne @ 2:01 pm (#100) – No kidding. I’m beside myself whenever I remember that the President of the United States has confessed on national television to committing two different crimes, and has not only refused to show remorse but has actually said he’d do it again, yet no one in the majority party’s congressional caucus has suggested that maybe they ought to look into whether that was a good idea or not. Damn few in the minority party have said this, either.
Meant Goopies, but maybe Goopie is more appopriate now – lots of goop sliding off their sorry faces.
Mister Teller…
That is f-ing HI-Larious!
Thank you! (scurrying off to email to many well-read friends of mine)
Ed*ard Teller @
98
Yeah, Anne, I’m gobsmacked too. Weren’t these crimes — and the above-the-law attitude they stem from — exactly what the Founders had in mind when they invented impeachment?
Cujo- yes!
RAYNE -YES! Couple that with the fact that they actually got permission to film inside the CIA building, something that almost never is allowed. Follow the money… and the diarrhea – drip, drip, drip
twolf1 @ 84
Here’s the video.
scarecrow @ 102
Spotlight?
There was a post yesterday by the programmer showing how to spotlight ANY blog article of your choice (for example, the one over at KOS).
Direct action planned at Disney Studio, 4pm today in Burbank:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/8/153443/2028
Jacqrat @ 110
twolf1 @
80
Read it. It sort of sounds like the shot across the bow for a coming defamation lawsuit towards ABC, and collaterally maybe Kean, if this thing airs. Sort of, “You have been put on notice that this is false and defamitory,” which would go towards intent and malice. What about it, lawyers out there?
Watertiger: I think that our elected representatives need to do some heavy-duty penance for “skipping around the Senate office building like live-action Hummel figurines in their dirndl skirts and lederhosen, daisy-filled baskets swinging on their arms, pigtails flapping in the wind, oblivious to the war-profiteering machinations of the Bush regime…” while Bush burned Baghdad.
They could start by actually doing their jobs of oversight and start issuing subpoenas, holding investigations, and firing all those responsible for the lies… Oops, sorry, I just woke up from my particular fantasy–must have fallen asleep dreaming of the images of “die frolicking Kinder” dancing in the meadow that you put in my head…
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 106
Is this it?
http://www.ywam.org/searches/searchintloff.asp
Kurt and Scarecrow thanks for the instructions again on spotlighting!
watertiger @ 101
________
They will do whatever it takes to keep control. Gonna be ugly down at the wire.
_
twolf1 @ 114
Like it.
OT (EPU’d) –
[I arrived today very late in the game (and after doing email work to protest the ABC monstrosity — I love FDL action!) and posted down below on Christy’s great thread something in response to “clueless.” Fearing clueless will miss it I beg your indulgence in reposting up here. Apologies to watertiger for being OT — great stuff you wrote here, BTW!]
clueless –
Hello there, fellow Arizona resident! So you’re in Maricopa County too?
I would take with a huge grain of salt the indications that Independents are the largest group of new voters among new registrations. Why?
Here’s our story — we’ve been AZ residents for a good many years now. When we first arrived we registered to vote as Democrats. We voted as registered Democrats for a good many years.
Then we bought a house, and went to MVD to change our driver’s licences and fill out a new voter registration. We VERY CAREFULLY marked “Democratic Party” as our affiliation on the form.
Imagine our surprise when our registration cards arrived in the mail marked “PND” — “Party Not Designated.”
The Sec’y of State for AZ is a Republican, as is the Board of Elections Supervisor for Maricopa County.
They have LOTS of tricks up their sleeve. By misstating how many Democrats there are, they make it look like the Party is not growing here by leaps and bounds, which IMO it is indeed doing.
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ #106:
YWAM is a family of ministries, rather than a centralized agency. Although we have main offices, we do not have an international administrative headquarters.
Each YWAM location is responsible for planning outreaches, initiating training programs, recruiting staff, financial resource development, and setting priorities in carrying out ministry.
Please contact individual YWAM locations with specific questions regarding their own ministries and policies. YWAM has hundreds of local bases, as well as national/regional main offices.
sort of like al Qaeda, eh……?
If Congress will not defend democracy and the Constitution, who will defend the Congress?
Mary– the findings re Tenet can found here; scroll down to page 186. PDF file warning.
http://intelligence.senate.gov/phaseiiinc.pdf
pretty jarring.
Mrs. K8 124
You mean the Republicans would engage in dirty tricks?
How could you possibly think that?
Clinton’s attorney and Lindsey also just sent a letter to Iger per CNN.
RAYNE – you scooped me.
I was about to post the same thought.
Warning – this is all speculation.
If I were a Scaife-type rich guy, I would want to get ABC to show a Clinton bashing 9/11 film. But how? I can’t just fund the film with my own money – that would be too obvious.
Okay, so instead I go offshore – giving to a foreign-incorporated branch of the YWAM in a way that is completely out of the public eye in the United States.
I then give YWAM well over the necessary amount for the film, so that they have some guaranteed profit left over – that is their payment for serving as the middle man in this project.
Then YWAM tells the producer of the film (who I believe may actually be a relative of some bigwig at YWAM) that they have a green light to pitch their film to ABC at an absurdly low cost. ABC doesn’t know exactly why the project is so cheap, but they know a deal when they see one, and agree to air “Path to 9/11″ once it is complete at this bargain basement price.
In the end the results are as follows:
1. Scaife guy or guys gets the 9/11 trash flick televised.
2. YWAM gets the extra cash from Scaife
3. The producer with ties to YWAM gets to direct a big-budget prime time film (with a lot of creative guidance from Scaife guy’s buddies)
4. ABC gets fairly inexpensive and high profile film to televise.
If this was the original plan, what they didn’t take into account was the fact that their pre-selected viewers of the rough cut of the film, like Rush Limbaugh (I think) started talking too much about the details of the film and made people aware of its inaccuracies. Then the internets took over. And here we are…
Richmond 2:10 pm — mind you, I don’t actually have a trail between those points. But when there are so many groups that have been paid to do psyops, when there are more and more payola recipients uncovered here in the states (like those in Miami), when there is so much cash gone unaccounted for and no incentive for the Republican majority to demand accountability, it seems obvious to me there are so many ways that a seemingly cult-like group could have pulled this crap on us so easily.
Of course, we only tell ABC-Disney that we are FURIOUS they have allowed a cult to foist this on them and us…but we know both YWAM and ABC-Disney are finger puppets for something and somebody else.
Are we all agreed now that we need to reinstitute something like the Fairness Doctrine, possibly Rep. Louise Slaughter’s Fairness and Accountability in Broadcasting Act that was pulled into committee to die?
ABC-Disney certainly makes my case for me.
Clintonistas Claim Foul Over ABC 9/11 Film
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story…..amp;page=1
I’ve heard that term thrown around by Mary Matlain.
I guess Kean isn’t stumping for his son tonite– he’s on CNN.
twolf1 @ 114
That’s pretty good. Pick a fight and hit em. Hard.
Rayne @ 2:05 pm
“This so-called cult that allegedly produced this movie is a cut-out, don’t you think?”
Is YWAM possibly affiliated with another 501(c)(3) organization (in case it’s not exempt from taxation under some other Internal Revenue Code section) that might be providing funding? Some of the form 990s for the local chapters that I saw on Guidestar (and I did not see all the form 990s that were available) indicate that the revenues of a local chapter are typically about $ 250,000 to $ 275,000. Without a centralized headquarters, how would YWAM deal with the logistics of receiving and disbursing forty million dollars? It may be that someone at YWAM or someone connected to YWAM in some other way inspired this movie and that someone else provided the funding in YWAM’s name.
Just read a thread at DU that says George Mitchell is on his way OUT as Chairman of the Disney Board of Directors.
Here’s the thread with links within it:
http://www.democraticundergrou…..15;2084194
jeez, he’s standing in a field with some guys in orange suits with American flags on their backs…
evoking the downed flight? or what?
Rayne – and remember the millions that happened to disappear in the airport in Bagdad (or wherever). How doe we know it wasn’t put to some other use by us?
Millineryman – Clintonistas, as I recall is a Limpball term – like Feminazis.
angie @ 137
i was just wondering about that backdrop. is it a cheney hunting trip?
Rayne @ 130
Reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine?! What next, tighter CAFE standards?! [/Republican shudder]
scarecrow @
31
I so relate… participated in some vigils against invading Afghanistan, even though we had broader support (from ethnically Christian countries mostly I think) to go in there, because I went to highschool near the P’gon, with kids whose daddies were our friends the freedom fighters… getting special training… When the Mujahedeen were our critical allies…
Both Bushes leave me speechless when I try to describe their hypocrisy. How ’bout a “Path to 9-11″ documentary that goes back to when we were aiding, abetting, and training OBL to fight the USSR?
Thanks you guys for being there…
and for those of us who need a laugh now and then, esp. for Angie,
–Swami Beyondananda
*xyz — heh. No scoop. Pure speculation. You have an equally valid and plausible but similar theory.
I guess I tend to think this is not a Scaife/Coors/other Heritage Foundation organization because of the filming at CIA; I suspect it’s driven by somebody at DoD with help through the recently sanitized and more DoD-friendly CIA. Probably couldn’t have happenend on Tenet’s watch.
There’s just too much money going to DoD, and too much for psyops. Why aren’t we spending that money directly on weapons and protective gear for the troops, or reconstruction? Spending it on psyops is an enormous waste.
And worse, if the money actually came back and was used against US.
Hmm…now that I’m thinking of it, I do have to wonder whether YWAM has ties to Heritage. All known payola recipients up to the Miami journalists did; the Miami gang might too, just haven’t checked yet.
twolf1– i amended my previous comment with this:
evoking the downed flight? or what?
Knock knock. This is the word police. You’re busted. Lederhosen is misspelled. Lieder = song. Leder = leather (auf Deutsch, naturlich).
I sentence you to 20 lashes with a wet noodle.
EvilDrPuma @ 91
could someone give me links to this so I can referance them on my board?
thanx
Bowtie Tucker was just twisting himself in all kinds of knots arguing with Moran (?) on pt911. Whining: Can’t Moran just admit that a member of congress has no business trying to censor a program. Quite funny. Is bowtie acting more hysterical than usual? Lots of meltdowns this week…I like it, I like a lot. Gotta a hunch more is coming.
Lots of things happening this week, newswise.
All I can keep thinking is that the wheels are falling off, FINALLY!Karma baby! Long memory and sharp teeth.
Bowtie, someone recently wrote is former CIA. Maybe he doesn’t like his brothers being caught with their pants so far down.
angie @ 143
Letters? What letters? we don’t see no stinkin’ letters.
“we haven’t even seen the film, how can you criticize it” is what Tom Kean is saying.
1)people haven’t seen it b/c they gave it to no Dems
2)i seem to remember every gooper criticizing Fahrenheit 911 before they saw it.
Morris @ 128 –
Yeah, it’s a real shocker isn’t it?
I had to mention this to clueless, though, because he/she (?) was saying that the largest group of new voters is Independent.
I want that taken with a grain of salt, based on our experience. There was no doubt whatsoever what our preference was on the registration form.
They don’t want it known how quickly the Democratic Party is growing (and getting all energized) in Arizona. So they’ll fudge the figures to make themselves look like they’re still “popular” here.
Actually, they’ve sown the seeds of their own future defeat out of greed. The Chamber of Commerce types have gone out of their way to give corporations huge tax breaks if they’ll set up shop in this so-called “right to work” (= “right to get screwed”) state.
Corporations move here, and set up shop. Lo and behold! There’s a huge influx of workers from states where the industrial/manufacturing base has gotten killed off. That just happens to be from mostly blue states.
Arizona gets quickly “developed” with a hot housing market (now getting quite cool) — only it’s filling up with lots and LOTS of Democrats.
The state party went enthusiastically for Howard Dean as chair of the DNC. Look to see big changes in the state in coming years.
CNN.com poll up now:
“Should filmmakers use fictionalized scenes to dramatize the events leading up to the September 11 attacks?”
Yes: 16%
10160 votes
No: 84%
55167 votes
Total: 65327 votes
Uncle Bug @ 144
liederhosen == the sounds in Ted Stevens’ internets.
BobbyG @ 151
results:
http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/…..clude.html
Richmond @
121
After a comment yesterday I made life a little easier. See:
Enter a permalink from any supported blog and you’re good to go. No need to mess with constructing the URL yourself.
Have fun.
Thank you Lyrebird @ 141– I was also against the war in Afghanistan and I completely concur with your fact- based historical documentary. Can you include the Taliban buddies we coddled, too? Can you also talk about Reagan and his ‘tear down that wall’ thing? Can we tell about the complete abandonment of the Afghan people?
I’ll chip in anyway I can to get that truth out and shown to all!
liederhosen == the sounds in Ted Stevens’ internets.
Tubular Bells!
Regarding YWAM and the $40 million price tag of the film –
Let’s not forget that $8 billion (or was it more?) went *pouf* “missing” in Iraq.
Not to mention all the juicy narcotraffic in Afghanistan and elsewhere — that’s so controversial a thought (!) I think I won’t mention it.
;-)
Tubular *BALLS*
Rayne — upthread, I teased ccmask 19 that we couldn’t consider the Miami report about US govt buying reporters because we already had our quota of scandals today. Now, after reading your speculation at 142, I think I spoke too soon. Wouldn’t that notion, that this was DoD money channeled to the filmakers, be a doozy? But then, one would expect the story to end with the Clinton Admin, and not risk offending the Bush people for their role prior to 9/11. None of these speculative stories quite holds together yet.
Cozumel @ 2:14 pm
Thank you very much for the link. It appears that YWAM International’s revenues in 2004 amounted to $ 2,700,000.
For those of you who wish to delve into this, here’s a link to the site I mentioned upthread: http://www.guidestar.org/
Registration is free for basic information that Guidestar provides.
Mrs K8 – you are evil ;-0 – and smart! I am smelling neo-Iran-contra all over again. ;-(
On YWAM funding, wasn’t it Pat Robertson who was trafficing in blood diamonds from Sierra Leone? -One of those uber-moral Christin profits (pun intended) anyway.
Mrs. K8 @ 157
Not to get all tin-foil-y, but these are the people involved with Iran-Contra, BCCI, and arms-for-hostages. Plus, as many have mentioned, film and television financing involves much creative accounting. Just a thought. :)
finnally got to see the had enough youtube & LOVED IT-have forwarded to friends galore-all of the same age group as me…it is great!
I am stunned, *stunned* I tells ya.
Hunter has a front page post up at Daily Kos with a link to a Think Progress story about Bill Bennett sharply criticizing ABC’s “falsifying the record.”
Here’s the story:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/…..th-to-911/
If y’all knew this already, my apologies for the repeat.
But Bill Bennett?
Ye gods, I’m gobsmacked.
scory, didn’t John Kerry investigate BCCI or was that another banking group I am thinking of?
Mrs. K8 @ 164
As I’ve noted elsewhere, he’s got odds on the show being cancelled.
Can we maybe have Gary Hart for a book salon thread?
please?
Documentary
Mockumentary
How about pseudomentary? Sounds like something faintly rotting along the gum line. eww.
scory –
Your #163 puts me in my mind of the wise adage:
“Great minds run in the same channels.”
(Which is just a smart-alecky way of saying “I think exactly the same way you do.” Keep that Reynolds Wrap handy.)
OT – Snakes on a Senate
LindaR @ 169
It’s a real mess-terpiece, all right.
As I’ve noted elsewhere, he’s got odds on the show being cancelled.
Good one!
Seymour Hersch, if you are following the blogs today, you’ve got all you need on the 9/11 film filth – now head back to the New Yorker piece on. Ditto Frank Rich, you have a deadline coming down on you real soon!
OT
File this one under WTF?.
Sinn Fein’s Adams meets Hamas lawmaker in Ramallah, prompting Israeli boycott
http://rawstory.com/showoutart…..59722.html
Mrs K8 – what are the odds now? They had odds on Summers leaving harvard and they were right on target.
Mark Steckel @ 154
Mark — that’s a very helpful improvement. I tried it and was able to link a specific GlennG post, then got the page with the reporters and selected KO, then added comment, but when I hit the next step, I got a message that this action wasn’t supported. Possibly my mistake along the way?? I’ll try again after I get home.
Milleryman @ 132 –
Yeah, “Clintonistas”-R-Us, sure.
How does Bill Bennett like being called a “Clintonista”?
Bwahahahahaha!
scarecrow @ 177
:-(
Let me take a look… btw – what browser & platform are you using?
Good for Gerry Adams.
Did YWAM have any connections in the Marianas? (The possibility just occurred to me … and that would be a really interesting connection!)
Responses continue to arrive from ABC network sponsors:
my emphasis. Seems like folks are continuing to craft and issue responses, even as the sun goes over the yardarm, eastern time….
new thread
Yo, Taylor Marsh in da hizzy.
peace out!
angie@ 127 – yikes. That gets into the minority only section (and btw – why didn’t Lieberman even TRY for something like that with Katrina?) but still – yikes.
Paul Pillar testified in June of this year too.
Tenet is maybe feeling the weight of that medal?
10-7-2002 – CIA declassified a letter exchange between McLaughlin and Levin, where McL says it would be an “extreme step” for Hussein to assist Islamic terrorists and the chances of Hussein using WMDs if he did not feel threatened were low. Same day, Pres gives the Cincinnati speech (where CIA was already fighting the Niger/yellow cake battle with Hadley & Co) and says Iraq could decide to give terrorists WMDs any given day. 10-8, Tenet issues statement that there was no inconsistency between McL’s response to Levin and Bush’s speech. 7-26-06, Tenet testifies that “they [policymakers]” wanted him to say something about the letter not being inconsistent with the speech and he did and now he thinks it was the wrong thing to do. Tenet also says that he felt the NYT had been “directed to talk to me.”
Wow. Also Pillar says Admin’s mind made up by April 2002, Tenet says by fall 2002. Bush still says, hey, March 2003.
And the report says the majority voted down the requests to investigate the flow of intel from Chalabi’s INC that was directed around CIA and went directly to Pentagon and WH (and OVP, Hannah in Cheney’s office being a “principal point of contact” but requests by the minority to interview Hannah were denied by Roberts)
Requests to interview Powell and Wilkerson about the UN speech – rejected by Roberts. Access to info in the Presidential pdbs denied, although the pdbs were being shared with private citizens on the 9/11 commission and the Silberman-Robb commission. Roberts made a unilateral decision in Nov. 2005 to skip all investigation of prewar intelligence activities of Pentagon policy officials and rely on the DOD IG to investigate. (BTW- wasn’t there a problem with the Pentagon IG? Am I misremembering that?)
scarecrow — in re your comment,
Bush/Cheney et al (yah, Rover, you too) cannot escape the facts; this cohort knows we have it all on them. But who is most damaged at this point in time by the PT911 movie? It’s not the Bushistas because there’s so much print about their f*ckups already, from their lack of imagination or their inaction bordering on let-it-happen-on-purpose.
No, this PT911 sets out to damage people who have been out of office and are no longer able to protect themselves by virtue of the office, people whose actions were obscured by chronic shouts of “Wagging the dog!!!” by the opposition. It uses people that can offer no insight into the truth, like the now-deceased agent.
It could well be Hillary’s VRWC at work, and in an arm’s-length manner, striking at her future by bashing at her spouse’s past. The VRWC that she knew during the Clinton years has changed, though; they are no longer private citizens only, but well-placed cronies in the halls of government as well.
And the deepest pocket is DoD, the place where we the people are held at bay for reasons of national security.
Timing is interesting for the 9/11 report, out today just before 9/11 and the media frenzy – so the hope it will get overlooked.
I thought you might be deep in a PDF file, Mary *g*. I have been picking myself off the floor all day long.
as to the IG, well there is this:
http://www.boston.com/news/nat…..EWell_Pos5
I didn’t misremember
Pentagon Inspector General resigns under a cloud
Interesting choice for Roberts, leaving it to an IG who was under investigation by another Senate committee.
And look – Mary Walker, she who Haynes delegated to head up the “let’s stab Mora in the back” committee. Hey – maybe there’s an Appellate Court opening for her too!
But he plays well with others – as long as the others are at Boeing or in the WH.
emph added
I can’t imagine why anyone would say this:
Is there anyone who doesn’t end up with Boeing, Lockheed or Blackwater?
Watertiger, thanks. It will take me hours to get through the comments on this, a bad brain fog day, but it will be very much worth it. It lifts my spirit and sense of hope, as I’m sure it does others’. DKos is hot today, also. Last night I was so disheartened, but forgot my own abbreviated tagline, the whole of which is: ‘When I despair, I remember that all through history, the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they seem invincible, but in the end, they always fail. Think of it, always.’ Gandi
Interests of fairness – only a year or so’s efforts involved the IG that resigned last year.
P J Evans @ 181
According to their list of ministry sites, nope. A more general search of their articles and such turns up nothing either.
(refocusing tin foil . . .)
You are amazing, Mary– ain’t it too funny the article I linked to is from just last month?
nothing wrong here, nope…
Slimeballs alla them.
marily— thanks for the words from Gandhi. peace.
“What is the Senate going to DO with this information?”
Tiger, they’re going to pass a $63 billion “stay the course” package, for Iraq and Afghanistan. And they’re going to keep on passing this shit, until we get a democratic government.
Belated thanks to Uncle Bug, now that the sto’m’s passed and I can see why “liederhosen” looked kinda funky to me before. D’oh.
I wonder which will come higher on the list to investigate – the prewar intel issues involving Feith et al, or an investigation into Cunningham’s contracts
Drudge has up in big bold black letters: “Will Iger Fold? Dems urge ABC to cancel.” Seems to me they are hinting that Iger will cancel the fiasco.
Also Drudge has up that ABC news is beating Couric and is on an upswing. Seems as if the right may be doing a push back too.
OT: In this article http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/090506Z.shtml, Marc Ash take a shot at the mainstream media for recently piling on against the Wilson/Plame investigation.
And not to be the Pentagon IG issue to death, but Schmitz was originally going to handle the Investigation into the Ghost Detainee Issue (you may need to watch an ad or be a member to view)
From a May 2006 article,
Never happened, no plans for it to ever happen. DOD IG’s spokesperson says they were never asked to investigate
Senate hearings in Feb – Rumsfeld said the CIA Insp Gen is handling it. Sen Reed has seen the CIA report(classified, of course) -says it is irrelevant bc CIA not responsible for actions of US Soldiers – and also says that there just hasn’t been an adequate investigation.
No one has ever really followed up on Rumsfeld’s “triple X” ghost detainee, and no one has ever explained who authorized all the other ghost detainees and what has happened to or with them. The “disappearing” of detainees at Abu Ghraib has never been investigated – although low level military personnel have been prosecuted.
I may not have asked this before, but how does anyone work for that man?
Anne @ 85
Excellent rant. I, too, remember all-too-well what was happening 37 miles away from me that day, and five years has not dimmed the memory all that much. Thank you.
laughin’ and laughin’ at the graphic.
what to say:
bannana head meets bannana peel.
or maybe just,
head butt.
Not only is he stupid, he’s powerful and evil too. that’s all it takes to scare the shit outta me.Am I a lurker if all I do is enjoy the blog, have never commented, but I do follow the rules by sending off emails composed by me, letters composed by me, and make phone calls from me without talking points created by someone else?
Today has been one huge discovery after another, and here is where I have, mostly, followed them all. What a day for those of us who believe a change is long overdue!
Has it occurred to anyone that this is really a case of “cover your ass” by the Republican candidates? Many, even Rick Santorum have spent the summer running from Pres. Bush and now they can point at this report (the same report that was delayed during the 2004 cycle for purely partisan reasons by Pat Roberts) and proclaim “Hey, I only voted for the war because of what the Pres told me. I wasn’t the one that lied. I’m not to blame!” Sure this was the same reasoning that many Dems used in 2004 but that was when so many were deluded by our media into thinking that Bush as credible. Back when the pundits thought Bush was a great guy and told everyone that they wanted to have a beer. Before Chris Mathews went from “only the whackos don’t like Bush” to Tucker “this was a mistake”. Sure as hell you will find one Republican after another have their own Road to Damascus moment, and suddenly proclaim that they were lied to by Bush.
Nope, March Dancer, you’re not a lurker. You were a reader, now you’re a commenter, and all along you’ve been a Firepup — so welcome!
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The Canadian government was aware that there were no links between Hussein and Al-Qaeda. Whe wouldn’t the US Government listen to their purported closest Ally? (I am against the Iraq War, but do support the War in Afghanistan …)
Late to the show, here – but – that should be “lederhosen” (literally, leather pants). In German, leder = leather; lieder = songs; leider = sorrows.
I would suggest for the sake of snark, leiderhosen (sorrowpants).
Senator Joe of Connecticut uses LieberHosen to water his plants …