Now that key Democrats like Big Dog and Harry Reid and the Families of September 11 have jumped into the fray, it's apparent Disney got way more than they bargained for with their wingnut-appeasing revisionist history moment. Some have argued that the imprimature of the 9/11 Commission be pulled off, and that's a good start. But ABC needs to yank this pig and re-think it or risk burning some serious bridges.
I think they were so conditioned to the Democrats putting up no fight it just didn't occur to them something like this could happen, and it probably wouldn't have if bloggers hadn't gotten out in front of it and thrown gas on the fire. And making big political enemies within the party who just might take over one of the houses of Congress is a really, really bad idea, especially just prior to a hotly contested election.
Disney eats much bigger budgetary shit than this all the time. And what they really don't need is bloggers organizing to roll back their draconian copyright protection legislation in retribution, esp. with a bunch of legislators already softened up and prone to be compliant.
I'm not saying it will be easy to keep them from airing this thing this weekend, but it isn't un-doable. If I were negotiating with them I'd suggest postponing it until all the aggrieved parties, including the former President of the United States, had had the same opportunity to see it as 900 shitty little wingnut bloggers. And most certainly until after the election.
It would give them a graceful out at the moment, and in the end might bog the thing down so it will eventually get released in a much-redacted version and go straight to DVD.
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It would be wonderful if they agreed to pull/postpone it. Wonder if Jobs (Apple) and Scholastic are key factors?
“I think they were so conditioned to the Democrats putting up no fight it just didn’t occur to them something like this could happen,”, I think you are absolutely right.
And, “900 shitty little wingnut bloggers”, you are funny as hell :)!!!!!
Well, if you’re a republican who’s really pissed off at bloggers, you could always go shoot some doves..
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bloggers organizing to roll back their draconian copyright protection legislation in retribution
Oooooh - I LIKE the way you think, Jane.
Remind me to never piss you off.
muckraker is reporting that Scholastic has pulled pt911 materials.
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/archives/001483.php
Richmond @ 6
Well, they’re different legs of the stool, and probably not able or willing to withstand as much pressure as the big corporations.
I have some experience with Disney, having become their unwilling subject when they bought our record label back in the day. With respect to their accounting practices and willingness to abide by written agreements, I have nothing nice to say.
Hey Massachusetts- Bill Delahunt making you proud on C-SPAN right now!
I hope it can at least get postponed until after November.
ember @ 7
Ask Joe Lieberman about the 900 shitty little wingnut bloggers. Turned out a whole lot of primary voters in August.
The rest of you - - - take notice.
Don’t tread on me!
Urban Pirate @ 11
Yes, but a lot of the materials are already out there. Whoops!
FYI - If it hasn’t been noted, Robert Iger’s predominantly donating to democratic causes, per opensecrets.org.
I think they were so conditioned to the Democrats putting up no fight it just didn’t occur to them something like this could happen,
Absolutely, and this is why we have to keep it up in this fight and all the other ones that prompt the faint-hearted to say “It’s just a movie/It’s just one campaign/It’s just one column” (and on that last note, may I OT encourage everyone to read Old Lady Broder’s foolishness and drop him a polite but fact based message of elucidation?).
I grew up on the whole Disney thing. My Grandma took me to Disneyland in 1956. About the time the theme park opened. But I shall never forget the time I was denied a ticket as 17 year old at the Disneyland ticket booth in Anaheim in 1965, because I had Beatle length hair. Walt Disney was a very conservative man.
Urban Pirate @
11
One down, one to go…
SCHOLASTIC REPLACES “THE PATH TO 9/11” CLASSROOM GUIDE WITH NEW DISCUSSION MATERIALS FOCUSING ON CRITICAL THINKING AND MEDIA LITERACY SKILLS…
http://www.scholastic.com/abou.....006_CP.htm
This is a VICTORY
Can someone help me out here? I’ve had a running dialogue with the news director (Randy) of my local ABC affiliate since yesterday, and here’e the crux of out disagreement: Randy says they have a contractual obligation to show the miniseries and are not allowed to act independently. A comment at TPM Cafe … well, here’s the comment by Josh Marshall, verbatim:
“Also of note, a lot of stations, like the ABC affiliate in Cleveland, seem to be fibbing to their viewers, claiming that they have no choice but to air the movie, even though that’s not true, since they are independent ABC affiliates.”
Meanwhile, Randy tells me that …
“I’ve been in the TV business for 25 years and have never heard of an “independent affiliate”. If a TV station is an ABC affiliate, then they
are not “independent”. If they are an independent station, then they are not affliliated with ANY network.”
So, who knows something about this?
Interesting that we haven’t heard much about the other people who participated in this debacle. You know, I always liked Harvey Keitel, but after this I’ve lost respect for the guy, unless he steps forward and denounces this agitprop BS. Same for all the other actors who participated, the director, the investors, etc.
If you were Bob Iger, would you like to get a letter from the former President of the United States, whose wife, the junior Senator from New York, happens to be the front-runner for the Democratic Presidential nomination, 62 days before the Congress may shift control?
I wouldn’t. I think this dog might hunt yet. Let’s keep up the ABC, Disney, Apple, Steve Jobs, George Mitchell, 9/11 Commission pressure from voters, consumers, stockholders, and constituents.
Who controls the imprimature of the 9/11 Commission? How can it be used for commercial gain, let alone tripe? Was a vote taken by the Commission allowing its name to be lent to this enterprise?
Would anyone be interested in passing out flyers to customers in front of the San Francisco Apple Store tomorrow? The Disney store is right across the street, we could cover both if we had enough people….
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Irishamerican @ 21
Believe it when I see it.
signed
I don’t trust republicans
Well, the BBC has already aired Part One, with Part Two scheduled for the 11th…
BBC Listing for Monday, 9/11/06
Guess this will be known as the “unedited” version…
Anyone with Brtitish contacts out there?
am I the only one childish enough to be amused by the fact that this movie stars Donnie Wahlberg, the inspiration for Johnny Drama on Entourage? Mark Wahlberg is the star of Disney’s football movie, Invincible. And for everyone wondering how Disney/ABC can afford this forty million dollar in-kind off-the-books donation to the RNC, that movie is (I think) number one, and they own the Pirates of the Carribean franchise.
MSNBC has just announced apparently that Scholastic has pulled out of the 9/11 piece, we’ll see if true.
Irishamerican @ 21
True. A very weak one, though.A real victory would be if Scholastic dropped the whole program altogether. Note that nowhere in that report is there any mention of Scholastic bringing up the issue of intentional deception and propaganda.
Using pt911 as an example of that is the only “teachable moment” this situation provides, and Scholastic is dodging that one.
I, for one, am not appeased.
Alan Bisbort @ 23
Maybe he’s trying to make up to the wingnuts for showing his weener in “Bad Lieutenant?”
Lou Costello @
4
Lou–I’m working on a piece that will discuss 9/11 Press for Truth. Hope to get it posted around 5:30.
I saw a promotional photo for the fiction that looked like Corbin Bernsen. Is he in it, too, or was it a very bad photo of Harvey Keitel?
Scholastic ditches ABC/Disney’s Mockumentary
by kos
Thu Sep 07, 2006 at 01:45:06 PM PDT
A significant victory.
Educational media giant Scholastic, Inc. announced it’s dropping its original classroom companion guides to a controversial new docudrama, and replacing them with materials stressing critical thinking and media literacy.
“After a thorough review of the original guide that we offered online to about 25,000 high school teachers, we determined that the materials did not meet our high standards for dealing with controversial issues,” said Dick Robinson, Chairman, President and CEO of Scholastic, in a press release.
I hope everyone is not doing the fool’s work by fighting back so hard against ABC’s GOPDrama, thus raising its profile thru publicity over the factual distortions. If I recall correctly, 9/11 themed movies have generally tanked. This one is scheduled against both the debut of Sunday Night Football on NBC and Monday Night Football on ESPN. Where do you think the vast majority of the audience will be?
That said, given this article in the NY Times today http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....washington
(sorry for the lack of a proper link)
about the return of Lieberman to the Democratic Caucus in Washington, I personally am more disgusted by the reaction of the Senate Democrats than by the distortions in the ABC movie. Lets get back to making sure there is a real Democrat elected to the Senate from CT.
I wonder if the ABC folks hid information about the bias in this hit piece from their Disney overlords - and perhaps John Stossel will have an expose on the horrors of being owned by Disney, what with their tolerance of gays and minorities and so forth at the theme parks.
just sayin’, it could happen…
Jane,
You’re a beauty all of the time.
Ever more so when you are pissed!
I cannot see how today’s release by Al-Jazeera of the O.b. Laden tape regarding the 9/11 perps does Bush any good. If anything, it seems to work against him and in favor of assuming his gross ineptitude.
Richmond — this AAPL shareholder sent a faxed letter to Jobs at Apple.
TeddySanFran — you make my point for me about damage to Apple.
As a shareholder, I’m not happy about potential collateral damage to a brand I “own”.
As a citizen, I’m more concerned about this abortion they call a free press.
SCHOLASTIC HAS PULLED THE MATERIAL FOR GOOD!
http://www.scholastic.com/abou.....006_CP.htm
“SCHOLASTIC REPLACES “THE PATH TO 9/11” CLASSROOM GUIDE WITH NEW DISCUSSION MATERIALS FOCUSING ON CRITICAL THINKING AND MEDIA LITERACY SKILLS”
Send your thanks to kgood@scholastic.com
Kyle Good
And what they really don’t need is bloggers organizing to roll back their draconian copyright protection legislation in retribution, esp. with a bunch of legislators already softened up and prone to be compliant.
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Frankly, this should happen anyway, because it’s the right thing to do. It was the expectation of the Founders that copyrights would expire after a limited amount of time, and works of art and literature would enter the public domain. Mickey Mouse should belong to everyone, not just Disney’s shareholders.
What I’ve seen: turgid acting and a whispery conference scene with Donnie boy saying, “well, are we going to wack him or not.” I hope it sails off like Titanic, the real story.
Incidentally, I heard that Disney is the only publisher that ever gave the Library of Congress program for the Blind and Physically Handicapped, shit. Not exactly as philanthropic as they probably want to appear.
*xyz @ 33
Hi-fucking-larious. The materials obviously met their high standards for creating controversial issues.
caldonia — thanks much for the update on Scholastic. And definitely, carrots should be given where appropriate; we should not dole out sticks only.
CAUTIONARY NOTE: Contact your local school district and make sure they are aware of this position change, and that the questionable materials if already downloaded by instructors or curriculum directors are pulled from the school and replaced.
It would be very interesting to see who the writer/writers of the script were. Anyone know how to get this info. Hopefully there would be info on say the consultants…….Rendon Group maybe?
Raw has up a piece on Scholastic’s decision. I’m not convinced they have really done anything different. Will they include Saudi Arabia for example. Someone (maybe a teacher) should scrutinize those materials closely. Also, are they still linking the the pedagogy to the ABC film itself.
Jennifer Nix @ 31
Their server’s hosed.
Irishamerican @
21
YES! Kudos to all the folks chipping away.
Richmond @
45
Agree that we have to wait and see-but this is a pretty quick turning around of a MAJOR company by the blogosphere. We can withold thank yous to Scholastic until they actually, you know, show us what they have got.
Anyone who’s followed the evolution of ABC over the last few decades will recognize that this is just another step in the ‘networks’ descent.
From a fairly representative, kinda respectable television network that was acquired by Cap Cities (a truly vile bunch) and then the diseased Mouse (an even viler bunch if that’s possible) all one can say is ‘There’s no surprise here’. Too bad.
There is a precedent for what happens when a network proposes to show a docudrama that is opposed as being an unfair and untruthful political hit on its subject — the 2003 piece that CBS did on the Reagans. It was withdrawn, delayed and shown on another, more limited media, with a critique panel later.
If you think this precedent might be helpful — a “graceful way out” — then check out what Glenn Greenwald has said on this topic for the last couple of days. Then borrow it, link it, etc and let us spotlight it to every major market tv station and print reporter in the country.
caldonia @ 39
I won’t be thanking him. Their response is an insult.
Their press release implies that the problem is one of differing viewpoints, and that pt911 can be used as a way to teach how to disagree, or something.
But the real problem is that of lying and outright propaganda. Scholastic’s new program still gives legitimacy to pt911. It’s just a slight spin to try and avoid fallout.
It is not a real victory at all — the materials still suggest that the movie can be used as a basis for actual discussion and debate, which it cannot.
If Scholastic is unwilling to drop all connections to the movie at all, at the very least they should use the movie as a lesson of how propaganda works in the modern day — not as anything having to do with actual terrorism issues.
I will continue to target Scholastic on this. They get no thanks from me.
I don’t trust the Scholastic announcement –they are not abandoning the study guides, merely reworking them. I don’t trust any of them at this point.
Richmond @ 45
I find it *real* curious how they could have excluded Saudi Arabia in the original materials.
scarecrow @ 50
Actually, I’d rather ABC be forced to burn all the master copies at the entrance to Disney World, a la Burning Man, but I’d settle for a CBS-like solution, I suppose….
seepeesate @ 51
Then tell him you’re insulted.
Ruh-roh…diogenes has an open italics tag…
seepeesate @ 51
I agree.
The blogosphere should not have to read them the riot act before they do the right thing.
1. Media Literacy - what is a docudrama; how does it differ from a documentary; what are the differences between factual reporting and a dramatization?
Although a good teacher should be able to nail that one home for the kids. & that could be an important lesson.
Jane and all the Fire Dogs,
Since finding out about the lies and distortions in ABC’s so-called 9/11 docudrama, I did a Google refresher on the Clinton administration’s response to terrorism because I don’t have all the facts at my command.
The results were astonishing:
The mastermind and several of the perpetrators of the 1993 WTC bombing captured, indicted, tried and convicted and serving life sentence in US federal prisons. Likewise, many of the perpetrators of the 1998 attacks on our embassies in Africa.
Details of Clinton’s Omnibus Terrorism Bill in 1995, which received anemic support from the Republican controlled Senate and House, which finally passed a weakened version of the bill in ‘96.
And on and on.
I wonder how much would it cost — and if there’s time — to develop a full page ad for Sunday’s NYT, something like “The Missing Facts from ABC’s 9/11 Fiction.”
If it’s doable, I’d definitely contribute. Your thoughts?
Whoever is moderating, please close the italics tags that appear to remain open from post 37 through post 54. Thank you very much for your help.
I think they were so conditioned to the Democrats putting up no fight ….
That includes the threat of a lawsuit. Recall what John Dean said to us about keeping his powder dry for a libel action and how it holds his enemies in check. Now compare the tone, substance and 11th hour timing of Bruce Lindsey’s letter with these quotes from John Dean’s preface (CWC at xviii-xix):
The approach is identical. The subtext here is: Mickey doesn’t run with scissors. Be reckless and you’ll be liable for damages under NY Times v. Sullivan. I’ve always wondered by Democrats never do this. No more.
TeddySanFran @ 54
TeddySF: I prefer your solution as well. I’m asking whether there is value in the comparison, because if, as I suspect, ABC doesn’t pull this, then it would be helpful for media all over the country to have all of the righwing quotes from the 2003 incident to draw from in reporting the different treatment accorded to Clinton vs Reagan, in addition to all the ammunition about how the piece is just dishonest. If ABC shows this, then let them pay a heavier price in the critical commentary they receive. And, if they see in advance that this will be part of the price they pay, it might tip the scales. But who knows?
FWIW, I’m not getting italics
Do, let’s Do, Roll back those UN-GODLY
Copyright laws!
They’re Un-American!
OT Tweety just announced that Bigtime to be on MTP this Sunday. I thought it was debate time.
more snarling terror talk.
betcha those 900 wingnut bloggers will be salivating with their whoopie pies firmly clutched in their grubby little hands.
Alittlemusicalityplease - on NYTimes ad - nice idea, but that is rather preaching to the converted (or at least would be viewed as such).
alittlemusicalityplease @ 59
A lot of this homework is already done by Glenn on a story he posted two days ago. It needs to be spotlighted — but Glenn doesn’t have that function on his blog.
Here is an email from LandRover, an ABC sponsor I contacted yesterday:
Richmond @ 65
ya think? Not to get all meta, but it might be a way to force the spotling on to the inaccuracies of the film and the sheer partisanship of the creation and marketing campaign of the movie. Those who control the talking points win the debate. maybe.
Get this headline on abcnews.com - “Clintonistas Claim Foul Over ABC 9/11 Film “.
Clintonistas? Guess that tells us all we need to know about ABC.
mui @ 53
The Saudis are our friends. Right? Just ask the Bush gang. They like ‘em a lot.
Turns out that our friends are now considering “an unprecendented proposal to ban women from performing the five Muslim prayers in the immediate vicinity of Islam’s most sacred shrine in Mecca. Some say women are already being kept away.”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....ning_women
“And what they really don’t need is bloggers organizing to roll back their draconian copyright protection legislation in retribution”
Ahh, Jane, goin’ straight for the gonads.
Squeeze tight, don’t let go.
Maybe this will backfire and get the masses looking at the foil hat 911 theories. Who knows, maybe even a REAL investigation into what happened, especially if November winds blow cool for the bedwetter projectors.
Wow. I couldn’t check in with FDL until now and I find the whole GOP world crashing to the ground. I especially like the Bolton delay and the spot Chafee is in. Of course none of this would be happening if it weren’t for Jane and Christy and all the other contributors who are spreading information in milliseconds, and then taking direct action. There is hope out here. Thanks everyone!
Richmond @ 45
The original materials were :
“Provided by the Generosity of ABC News”
Ah, it worked!
Jane wrote:
Just a sec. Are you saying we should bargain away draconian DRM in return for not airing this bit of propaganda?
P J Evans @ 77
third times the charm ;) !!!
Good question for Lieberman: Did you receive an advance copy of Path to 911?
They could air the BBC 3 part series “The Power of Nightmares” [video.google.com] in its place.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 70
Oh absolutely according to the gospel of BushCo.
BTW. Another disturbing example of militancy mixed with religion right here in the U.S of A.: Jesus Camp
Disney must be paying for stopping the Florida high speed train…
scarecrow @ 66
Glenn’s blog may not have the Spotlight links, but the Spotlight is ready and waiting for Glenn. :-)
In fact, you can Spotlight any of Glenn’s posts but it requires a bit of manual work. Its easy, don’t worry.
Using the following template:
Copy the permalink to any of Glenn’s post and replace “[PERMALINK]” in the above URL with the actual link. Here’s an example.
Of course, you will need to enter the resulting URL into the address bar of your browser.
Richmond @ 65
I see your point. But I’m a NYT reader and before my google search, I didn’t have a list of bullet points on Clinton’s terrorism policies at my command. The point of the ad would be to highlight the facts and make them top of mind.
What provokes me most about this whole sordid incident is the cynical manipulation of our children! When anyone attempts to brainwash children they sink to the level of the Nazi youth movement, seriously. I cannot find words to describe precisely how reprehensible it is.
And yes, I am aware that Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, George Bush, et al, are sociopaths of the highest order — and clinically insane to boot — but when they are so desperate to retain power that they stoop so low as to propagandize impressionable children, I am really to go to the mattresses. I cannot be more serious.
Have you had enough? Its time to throw the rascals out!
Someone at Kos in the comments made a nice list:
—–
“OK, here the names, titles and email addresses for a number of key senior Disney decision makers I found, starting at the top
with the CEO and board of directors are at the bottom.
Let’s make our voices heard and see if we can get these guys to pull this blatantly obvious Bush propaganda. ABC may profit from the predictable controversy but airing a film designed to obfuscate Bush’s responsibility for 9/11 will cause ABC to suffer greatly in the estimation of serious people.
Disney and ABC should leave the RNC propaganda to Fox, it’s not ABC’s demographic.
Robert Iger - CEO - robert.a.iger@disney.com
Rich Ross - President of Disney Channel Worldwide - rich.ross@disney.com
Sean Cocchia - VP/Business Development, Disney Channel Worldwide- sean.cocchia@disney.com
Gary Marsh - Disney Channel Worldwide President of Entertainment - gary.marsh@disney.com
Sarah Shelton - Assistant to Gary Marshsarah - shelton@disney.com
Scott Garner - SVP/Programming, Disney Channel - scott.garner@disney.com
Karen Myer - Assistant to Scott Garner - karen.myer@disney.com
Meredith Metz - Senior Vice President, Creative Affairs, Walt Disney Television Animation - meredith.metz@disney.com
Lisa Salamone - The Head of Animation Production, Disney Channel - lisa.salamone@disney.com
Joanna Spak - The Head of Finance, Planning, etc., Disney Channel - joanna.spak@disney.com
Mark Kenchelian - The Head of Business and Legal Affairs, Disney Channel -mark.kenchelian@disney.com
Jewell Engstrom - CFO and Executive VP for Disney-ABC Cable Group - jewell.engstrom@disney.com
Olivia Stafford - Assistant to Jewell Engstrom - olivia.stafford@disney.com
Albert Cheng - EVP/Digital Media, Disney-ABC Television Group - albert.cheng@disney.com
Karen Hobson - Digital Media Communications Office, Disney-ABC Television Group - karen.hobson@disney.com
George Bodenheimer - Co-Chairman Media Networks Group - george.bodenheimer@disney.com
Nicole Nichols - Senior VP of Entertainment Communications, Disney-ABC Television Group - nicole.nichols@disney.com
Aime Wolfe - Assistant to Nicole Nichols - aime.wolfe@disney.com
Patti McTeague - VP of Kids Communications - patti.mcteague@disney.com
Siobhan Kenny - Acting Head of International Communications - siobhan.kenny@disney.com
Paul Lee - ABC Family Channel - paul.lee@disney.com
Annie Fort - ABC Family Media Relations - annie.fort@disney.com
Alex Wallau - President of Network Operations & Administration - alex.wallau@disney.com
David Westin - ABC News President - david.westin@disney.com
Mike Shaw - ABC Sales and Marketing President - mike.shaw@disney.com
Fred Kuperberg - Disney/ABC Executive VP of Business and Legal Affairs - fred.kuperberg@disney.com
Kara Rousseau - VP of Ad Sales Marketing for Disney/ABC Kids Networks - kara.rousseau@disney.com
Kim Harbin - Buena Vista Media Relations - kim.harbin@disney.com
Anne Gates - Disney Consumer Products Executive VP & CFO - anne.gates@disney.com
James Fielding - Senior VP, Retail Sales and Marketing for DCP - james.fielding@disney.com
Deborah Dugan - President of Disney Publishing - deborah.dugan@disney.com
Graham Hopper - Senior VP and General Manager of Buena Vista Games - graham.hopper@disney.com
Angela Emery - Director of Public Relations, Buena Vista Games - angela.emery@disney.com
Chris Bess - Buena Vista Home Entertainment - chris.bess@disney.com
Peter Murphy - Senior Adviser to Mr. Iger - peter.murphy@disney.com
Judy Estrin - Board of Directors - jestrin@packetdesign.com
John Bryson - Board of Directors - john.bryson@edisonintl.com
Monica Lozano - Board of Directors - monica.lozano@laopinion.com
John Chen - Board of Directors - john.chen@sybase.com
Gary Wilson - Board of Directors - gary.wilson@nwa.com
Leo Odonova - Board of Directors - leo.odonovan@mbna.com
Thomas Staggs - CFO/Senior V.P. - tom.staggs@disney.com
David K. Thompson - Senior Vice President - David.
OT: I’m watching the movie Fatso with Dom DeLouise and Anne Bancroft–funniest movie and I haven’t seen it in years.
Pre-911 Clinton did not have the moral authority to kill anybody in the world at will, as Bush was given after 911. Nevertheless Clinton was a better Hunter and had better intel on Al-Quaida because of his personal intectual curiosity and the team that worked for his administration.
Judy Miller still did not explain her knowledge of something big that was going to happen inthe summer of 01.
Jane-
Yeah, right the fuck on. If this dog airs, and the elections go in favor of the Democrats as seems likely, perhaps the incoming chairs of the House Committees ought to point out that any future copyright legislation is DOA and oh, by the way, maybe it’s time to re-examine what’s been done before. Perhaps it’s time to bring copyright laws back in line with the “original intent” of the Founding Fathers.
That ought to awaken the Rat that Ate Orlando. Quickly.
Mark Steckel @ 84
That’s easy enough, though it would also be easy to make a webform that could do that for you, “Enter URL here:” and concatenates the url to the end of the baseurl… for the less tech inclined FDLers.
Oh, and thanks again, Mark, for this great tool.
Mark Steckel — I’ll try it. You’re dealing Mr. URL-challenged, so I’ll be back in a few days. Thanks.
Why Does the Left Hate “The Path to 9/11″?
By Hugh Hewitt
Thursday, September 7, 2006
http://www.townhall.com/Column.....ath_to_911
Mark —
I just want to add my voice to the chorus of approval for SPOTLIGHT, and say in particular how helpful it is to know you always seem to be RIGHT HERE to answer questions and provide guidance.
Welcome to the team, dude.
#90 — No, Harry, I have to disagree. Clinton was on top of the problem; he was thwarted at every turn by a Republican-controlled congress that spent every waking minute of its time destroying his presidency by any and every means at its disposal.
Refresh your memory:
http://www.motherjones.com/new.....antom.html
A lot of smoke comming out of the Pakistani fire, giving OB Laden a free ride. The Democrats should jump all over this, another Bush “utter” failure.
What’s required is a BIG FAT LIBEL SUIT!!!
tommy yum @ 46
Since it does look like the ‘9ll Press for Truth’ site is down, you can watch the trailer here: Google Video
Think that at some point Thomas Kean is going to have to be hung out to dry by ABC/Disney and Scholastic/Apple. Can’t believe that this piece of dreck got this far up their respective food chains without many, many folks in legal depts and elsewhere, etc. throwing up flags. Only thing I can think of that would have allowed this to be green-lighted this far is Kean’s imprimatur. What’re you going to say when their stock answer is that the Chairman of the 9/11 Commission signed off on it and is still touting its accuracy? Guarantee you that people on the inside of those corporations are apoplectic about this and are asking some very pointed questions. 9/11 Commission Chairman Thomas Kean is soon to be toast, IMHO….
Jim @ 27
I read earlier it was Mark in the crockumentary; thanks for pointing out that it is the other brother. Funny that he is the inspiration for an Entourage character; so is Mark Wahlberg’s agent, Ari (brother of Rahm) Emanuel. Small world, isn’t it?
Lawyer for Big Dog, Albright and everyone else slammed in this trash should made plans to instigate one ASAP if changes aren’t made.
Just the name of this miniseriesexplains a lot. The path means everything that happened before 911. And that leaves out Bush if it ends before his tomato throwing inauguration.
bdu @ 92
What a wonderful idea! I wonder if I’ll be able to get to it today?…
:-)