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		<title>By: Creeping Truth</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-284141</link>
		<dc:creator>Creeping Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-283128&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 45 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-283098&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Kurt @ 19&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;One thing I have taken away from this whole experience, is the conspiracy of the right-wing that exists to alter this country into something alien. (not a conspiracy in the tinfoil hat sense, but in a coordinated, networked, quasi-legal sense).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;One of the things I hope we can do going forward, once the smoke clears from this current episode, that is, is to ourselves coordinate an attack on this entire right-wing network. Attack their funding. Attack their reach in the media. Attack their apologists. Attack their enablers.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;This is something the netroots is ideal for.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yeah, I gotta give Hillary props here.  She was right, there is a VRWC.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If only she’d stuck with the insight. You can cut the McCarthyism in the air with a knife. Of course McCarthy could only dream about what they’ve accomplished … for a short while.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There’s a word for it. I caption emails to friends on the latest Rovian or Luntzian tactic “Gleichschaltung 101″ and on up the scale depending on the sophistication level. It’s Goebbels’s word for coordination of the political culture through the mass media and party and parallel organs. He worked each case differently. He knew people let their guard down for movies (as in docudramas) more than for newsreels, so he poured more into cinema. Newspapers were widely owned, so he designed a format for press conferences that Tony Snow would die for, then concentrated ownership over time.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The thing of it is, it &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; in plain view. Nothing this vast could be hidden, even in the twilight. Luntz’s memos leak out; so do Boehnert’s talking points. Other public or leaked moves fall right under the concept. It’s all nauseating but instructive.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The good news: we’ve caught on. Chomsky said there are just two forces in the world: corporations and public opinion. Our friends can’t count past 1. They’re paying for it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-283128"><em>TeddySanFran @ 45 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-283098"><em>Kurt @ 19</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>One thing I have taken away from this whole experience, is the conspiracy of the right-wing that exists to alter this country into something alien. (not a conspiracy in the tinfoil hat sense, but in a coordinated, networked, quasi-legal sense).</p>
<p>One of the things I hope we can do going forward, once the smoke clears from this current episode, that is, is to ourselves coordinate an attack on this entire right-wing network. Attack their funding. Attack their reach in the media. Attack their apologists. Attack their enablers.</p>
<p>This is something the netroots is ideal for.</p>
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<p>Yeah, I gotta give Hillary props here.  She was right, there is a VRWC.</p>
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<p>If only she’d stuck with the insight. You can cut the McCarthyism in the air with a knife. Of course McCarthy could only dream about what they’ve accomplished … for a short while.</p>
<p>There’s a word for it. I caption emails to friends on the latest Rovian or Luntzian tactic “Gleichschaltung 101″ and on up the scale depending on the sophistication level. It’s Goebbels’s word for coordination of the political culture through the mass media and party and parallel organs. He worked each case differently. He knew people let their guard down for movies (as in docudramas) more than for newsreels, so he poured more into cinema. Newspapers were widely owned, so he designed a format for press conferences that Tony Snow would die for, then concentrated ownership over time.</p>
<p>The thing of it is, it <em>is</em> in plain view. Nothing this vast could be hidden, even in the twilight. Luntz’s memos leak out; so do Boehnert’s talking points. Other public or leaked moves fall right under the concept. It’s all nauseating but instructive.</p>
<p>The good news: we’ve caught on. Chomsky said there are just two forces in the world: corporations and public opinion. Our friends can’t count past 1. They’re paying for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Praedor Atrebates</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283687</link>
		<dc:creator>Praedor Atrebates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 13:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I love &lt;em&gt;Lost&lt;/em&gt; and all but I am more than willing to leave the channel somewhere else (somewhere else besides Lifetime, A&amp;E, History Channel, ESPN, and any and all other Disney propaganda stations) and forego that show if ABC doesn’t do the right thing.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;They either present the Truth in place of truthiness or they lose me as a viewer.  Period.  Disney too.  And I will be taking a look at all of ABC’s advertisers as well to see about a little boycott.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I want the Truth:  The outgoing Clinton Admin &lt;em&gt;vainly&lt;/em&gt; attempting to warn the incoming Bush Admin that terrorism and Al Qaeda was the biggest national security issue, with the Bushies giving them the finger.  AG Asscrack telling his daily briefers to stop presenting on terrorism.  Bush “reading” (yeah, right, &lt;em&gt;reading&lt;/em&gt;) &lt;em&gt;My Pet Goat&lt;/em&gt; to a room full of children while planes were striking targets in NY and DC…and then running scairt to Texas to hide until everything was “safe”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I want the Truth.  Objective, documented, recorded truth rather than partisan fantasy.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, you have apparently altered the engine to your sight in recent history.  It no longer works as per open, documented web standards as I can no longer submit comments using Konqueror, a truly open and documented standards-based web browser for Linux (including standards-based java and javascript).  As a result I have to load an alternative browser specifically for this site if I wish to comment or whatnot.  As a result of THIS I am only rarely participating on this blog any more.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Please look into the way your comment system works and ensure that it is using full and properly documented standards rather than some propriatory or perverted varient of actual standards.  Please?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love <em>Lost</em> and all but I am more than willing to leave the channel somewhere else (somewhere else besides Lifetime, A&amp;E, History Channel, ESPN, and any and all other Disney propaganda stations) and forego that show if ABC doesn’t do the right thing.  </p>
<p>They either present the Truth in place of truthiness or they lose me as a viewer.  Period.  Disney too.  And I will be taking a look at all of ABC’s advertisers as well to see about a little boycott.  </p>
<p>I want the Truth:  The outgoing Clinton Admin <em>vainly</em> attempting to warn the incoming Bush Admin that terrorism and Al Qaeda was the biggest national security issue, with the Bushies giving them the finger.  AG Asscrack telling his daily briefers to stop presenting on terrorism.  Bush “reading” (yeah, right, <em>reading</em>) <em>My Pet Goat</em> to a room full of children while planes were striking targets in NY and DC…and then running scairt to Texas to hide until everything was “safe”.</p>
<p>I want the Truth.  Objective, documented, recorded truth rather than partisan fantasy.</p>
<p>By the way, you have apparently altered the engine to your sight in recent history.  It no longer works as per open, documented web standards as I can no longer submit comments using Konqueror, a truly open and documented standards-based web browser for Linux (including standards-based java and javascript).  As a result I have to load an alternative browser specifically for this site if I wish to comment or whatnot.  As a result of THIS I am only rarely participating on this blog any more.</p>
<p>Please look into the way your comment system works and ensure that it is using full and properly documented standards rather than some propriatory or perverted varient of actual standards.  Please?</p>
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		<title>By: Kryten42</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283591</link>
		<dc:creator>Kryten42</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Jennifer! :D&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s great to see you blogging. I really enjoyed (if that’s the correct word) “How would a patriot act?” and am looking forward to Marcy’s book. (I’ve linked to that blog here from my blog and told people to help out.) :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I have linked to your blog here from my blog about this GOP propaganda film!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;There are two things that still bother me about this.&lt;br /&gt;
1. Where is the funding for it coming from? I cannot imagine for one minute that the shareholders of a large corporation would be happy about a company spending 10’s of millions on something with no return!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;2. This is not just an American problem. This is Global in scope! The ABC is being cute about the “docudrama” within the USA, but is blatantly lying to everyone outside the USA! As I said on my blog, it is being promoted in Australia (for example):&lt;br /&gt;
“The Path to 9/11 – For the first time… the story of exactly what happened…” and “… Official true story…”&lt;br /&gt;
This does NOT gel at all with what Disney/ABC are reporting within the USA! It basically means that the ABC is making a blatant attempt to sway international opinion in favour of the Bush Administration.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hopefully, we will get answers soon. Again, thanks for all you have done!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cheers. :)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jennifer! :D</p>
<p>It’s great to see you blogging. I really enjoyed (if that’s the correct word) “How would a patriot act?” and am looking forward to Marcy’s book. (I’ve linked to that blog here from my blog and told people to help out.) :)</p>
<p>I have linked to your blog here from my blog about this GOP propaganda film!</p>
<p>There are two things that still bother me about this.<br />
1. Where is the funding for it coming from? I cannot imagine for one minute that the shareholders of a large corporation would be happy about a company spending 10’s of millions on something with no return!</p>
<p>2. This is not just an American problem. This is Global in scope! The ABC is being cute about the “docudrama” within the USA, but is blatantly lying to everyone outside the USA! As I said on my blog, it is being promoted in Australia (for example):<br />
“The Path to 9/11 – For the first time… the story of exactly what happened…” and “… Official true story…”<br />
This does NOT gel at all with what Disney/ABC are reporting within the USA! It basically means that the ABC is making a blatant attempt to sway international opinion in favour of the Bush Administration.</p>
<p>Hopefully, we will get answers soon. Again, thanks for all you have done!</p>
<p>Cheers. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Sally</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283573</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 12:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Jennifer, Justin Rood, TPM Muckraker, has been writing about Scholastic.  This morning I e-mailed him suggesting a question for the Secretary of Education as to whether she thinks it’s appropriate for Scholastic to distribute this controversial, fact-challenged film to students.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I suspect Rove had a hand in this and he and hard-core Bush supporter Spellings go back to the days before Bush was governor.  Remember the story that Spellings declined Rove’s invitation to go on a date with him?  Who would have thunk it?  Romeo Rove.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And, thank you for your great work.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jennifer, Justin Rood, TPM Muckraker, has been writing about Scholastic.  This morning I e-mailed him suggesting a question for the Secretary of Education as to whether she thinks it’s appropriate for Scholastic to distribute this controversial, fact-challenged film to students.</p>
<p>I suspect Rove had a hand in this and he and hard-core Bush supporter Spellings go back to the days before Bush was governor.  Remember the story that Spellings declined Rove’s invitation to go on a date with him?  Who would have thunk it?  Romeo Rove.</p>
<p>And, thank you for your great work.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Bang Hunter</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283541</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Bang Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 08:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;- Maybe you could talk to Micky Mouse Moore and have him demand that Toronto not show a movie depicting the assassination of a sitting president while you’re all running around panicking that Clintons duplicity, along with his CYA administration, probably caused the deaths of 2700 civilians, and indirectly 2500 troops in Iraq. Pat yourselves on the backs for trying in your “oh so tolorant way” to stop the truth. It won’t work. Liars always get exposed. Live by the lie, die by the lie. We’ve been ;listening to 6 long years of the most outlandish lying fantasies from your side. You can dish it out, but you can’t take it. Feh.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>- Maybe you could talk to Micky Mouse Moore and have him demand that Toronto not show a movie depicting the assassination of a sitting president while you’re all running around panicking that Clintons duplicity, along with his CYA administration, probably caused the deaths of 2700 civilians, and indirectly 2500 troops in Iraq. Pat yourselves on the backs for trying in your “oh so tolorant way” to stop the truth. It won’t work. Liars always get exposed. Live by the lie, die by the lie. We’ve been ;listening to 6 long years of the most outlandish lying fantasies from your side. You can dish it out, but you can’t take it. Feh.</p>
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		<title>By: RossK</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283508</link>
		<dc:creator>RossK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:47:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is a Canuckistani alternative to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://pacificgazette.blogspot.com/2006/09/dismantling-catapault.html&quot;&gt;Prop-A-Gammon&lt;/a&gt;……&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a Canuckistani alternative to the <a href="http://pacificgazette.blogspot.com/2006/09/dismantling-catapault.html">Prop-A-Gammon</a>……</p>
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		<title>By: dlcox1958</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283501</link>
		<dc:creator>dlcox1958</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;great work!  thanks.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great work!  thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: mamazboy</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283482</link>
		<dc:creator>mamazboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 06:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;That “Cyrus Nowrasteh” guy looks pretty damn scary. Like he’s got acromegaly or something. Outer sign of inner depravity, methinks. (Not to diss those with actual acromegaly. It’s just that in this case…)&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That “Cyrus Nowrasteh” guy looks pretty damn scary. Like he’s got acromegaly or something. Outer sign of inner depravity, methinks. (Not to diss those with actual acromegaly. It’s just that in this case…)</p>
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		<title>By: hufNpuf</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283462</link>
		<dc:creator>hufNpuf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 05:51:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Reasons I love FDL: The many strong, self reliant, intelligent,concerned women. Jane,Christy, and now Jennifer,Larisa,Siun, and all the other fabulous ladies that I missed.Not to say I don’t appreciate TRex, Pach, and all the other guys. But I just love smart women.From an old hairy legged fart. Rock on.  hufNpuf&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reasons I love FDL: The many strong, self reliant, intelligent,concerned women. Jane,Christy, and now Jennifer,Larisa,Siun, and all the other fabulous ladies that I missed.Not to say I don’t appreciate TRex, Pach, and all the other guys. But I just love smart women.From an old hairy legged fart. Rock on.  hufNpuf</p>
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		<title>By: yarncore</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/07/press-for-the-truth/#comment-283458</link>
		<dc:creator>yarncore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Sep 2006 05:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Working on it right now, hopefully I’ll get it up by early morning!!! :)&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-283248&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;op99 @&lt;br /&gt;
                155              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-283226&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;op99 @ 137 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;For today’s assignment, Exile on Ericsson St. and I (and optimusprime of &lt;a href=&quot;http://rochesterturning.com/&quot;&gt;RochesterTurning.com&lt;/a&gt;)got ourselves interviewed by the ABC local affiliate for tonight’s 11 o’clock news, giving our side of the “Path to 911″ kerfluffle.  They think it will be edited fairly, I fear it will be twisted into a “well, you’re free to change the channel if you don’t like it” story.  We’ll soon see.  I’ll try to get the footage to you as soon as my more technologically proficient Drinking Liberally cohorts arrange it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It lead the newscast, and Exile and I made the cut.  They did frame it as a first amendment issue, but we got much better representation and airtime than I hoped. No Republicans were interviewed.  I give it a “B”. Working on a youtube for all y’all.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Working on it right now, hopefully I’ll get it up by early morning!!! :)</p>
<p><a href="#comment-283248"><em>op99 @<br />
                155              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-283226"><em>op99 @ 137 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>For today’s assignment, Exile on Ericsson St. and I (and optimusprime of <a href="http://rochesterturning.com/">RochesterTurning.com</a>)got ourselves interviewed by the ABC local affiliate for tonight’s 11 o’clock news, giving our side of the “Path to 911″ kerfluffle.  They think it will be edited fairly, I fear it will be twisted into a “well, you’re free to change the channel if you don’t like it” story.  We’ll soon see.  I’ll try to get the footage to you as soon as my more technologically proficient Drinking Liberally cohorts arrange it.</p>
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<p>It lead the newscast, and Exile and I made the cut.  They did frame it as a first amendment issue, but we got much better representation and airtime than I hoped. No Republicans were interviewed.  I give it a “B”. Working on a youtube for all y’all.</p>
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