
(alternate title: "Further Adventures of the Campaign Who Couldn’t Shoot Straight")
Ladies and gentlemen, I had no idea when I put out my booty call to Dan Gerstein, never, ever, ever, not even for an instant did I think it would work. But, apparently my love was too much for him to resist, because get ready, world! Do you think you can handle Dan Gerstein, Blogger?!
Now, when I heard that the Lieberman campaign was launching a blog in conjunction with its new web site, I really didn’t know that DANGERSTEIN was going to be one of their featured bloggers. I could barely contain my glee when I saw his name on the masthead. And, true to form, in spite of the fact the blog is less than 72 hours old, already they’ve stepped in it numerous times.
First there was the troublesome matter of Joe’s blogroll. Matt Browner-Hamlin says:
Lieberman’s blogroll is made up entirely of blogs outside the state of Connecticut (if any are Connecticut based, they don’t advertise it). The top three have a grand total of ten posts between them and were created in the last three weeks. One is forced to wonder if the delay in launching Joe2006 v2.0 was to allow their "ringers" a chance to get up to steam (snicker).
(snip)
By way of comparison, the official Lamont campaign blog lists seven Connecticut blogs and ten blogs that cover national politics in their blogroll (full disclosure: Emboldened is not on either list). The blogs Lamont links to update on a daily basis and provide a wide range of commentary. To the best of my knowledge, none of the bloggers Ned Lamont links to also write blogs filled with anti-Muslim and anti-Arab hate speech. (Lieberman may have made a big mistake linking to Chris Arnell’s site. Arnell looks like a fecund source of opposition material to use against Joe, and his fetishization of Muslim violence – from car accidents to jihad – is truly disturbing. The Lieberman campaign has repeatedly ran to the press with the scary, anti-Semetic (and universally condemned) remarks by anonymous blog commenters. We, however, now have a face to attach to Lieberman’s more unsavory supporters and Joe has condoned Arnell’s hate speech by linking to him on his blog.)
Ignoring the fact that Lieberman’s blog was instituted with mousetrap like intentions, it yet again reinforces the fact that the Lieberman campaign does not have the slightest clue as to how they should engage and communicate with bloggers. They don’t have any support online so they link to falsifiable bloggers who are either out of state, haven’t written about Joe in almost a month, or have only written a few posts ever. This campaign does not get it and yet again the take one big step forward and fall flat on their face.
Yeah, Matt. Since then, the percentage of links to GENOCIDAL FREAKS has fallen, somewhat, but it’s pretty sad that they never thought to maybe, oh, I dunno, check out the views espoused by bloggers they were linking to. Hello? Anybody home?
But that’s not NEARLY as sad as the truth about the poll numbers they were trumpeting yesterday, which had Lieberman enjoying a 51 to 35 percent lead over Ned Lamont. Lieberman blogger Eric Blankenbaker said:
(To our tinfoil hat wearing "friends" on the other side who are spreading rumors that this was a "push poll," sorry to disappoint, but this really was nothing more than a standard benchmark poll.)
WRONG!! Sorry, Eric, but it appears that on the very day that you were jizzing in your lap over these numbers, Joe’s penchant for hiring dishonest GOP hack pollsters was biting him in the ass. As luck would have it, today was the day the pollster that Lieberman shared with good lip-lockin’ buddy George Bush was PLEADING GUILTY TO FRAUDULENT POLLING in front of a grand jury in Bridgeport:
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. (Sept. 7) – The owner of DataUSA Inc., a company that conducted political polls for the campaigns of President Bush, Sen. Joe Lieberman and other candidates, pleaded guilty to fraud for making up survey and poll results.
Tracy Costin pleaded guilty Wednesday to one count of conspiracy to commit wire fraud. Costin, 46, faces a maximum of five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000 when she is sentenced Nov. 30.
Ouch.
That’ll leave a mark.
According to a federal indictment, Costin told employees to alter poll data, and managers at the company told employees to "talk to cats and dogs" when instructing them to fabricate the surveys.
FBI Special Agent Jeff Rovelli said 50 percent of information compiled by DataUSA and transmitted to Bush’s campaign was falsified, the Connecticut Post reported Thursday.
Maybe they could get some of those cats and dogs to start a Lieberman blog, because they could clearly do a better job than their current stable of on-line "talent".
But to underscore the point, let’s go to CT Bob, who highlighted the following discussion from Lieberblog. A reader asked about the Washington Times story alleging that the RNC has secretly poured millions of dollars into the Lieberman campaign. Hilarity ensued.
Let me get this straight. You are asking us to disprove an anonymous, single-sourced story from a magazine of questionable credibility that not one respectable news outlet has even come close to picking up on? What’s next, you want us to provide evidence that Joe Lieberman doesn’t beat his wife?
Seriously, folks, I am more than happy to answer legitimate questions raised on the blog, and I apologize for not doing more of it yet (been a little busy doing a few other things), but can we please have a little perspective? Thanks.
Dan Gerstein | 09.06.06 – 8:23 pm | #Joe Lieberman beats his wife?
Mike | 09.06.06 – 8:28 pm | #Why does Joe beat his wife? Is it because she’s a pharmaceutical lobbyist?
BluetooththeGreat | 09.06.06 – 8:31 pm | #I don’t know, blue… I just heard about it from Dan Gerstein himself.
Mike | 09.06.06 – 8:33 pm | #Now, we have someone who, posting as Dan Gerstein, hopefully it is and not a namestealer, wants to tell us that it is the equivalent of "when did you quit beating your wife"?
If this is as untrue, or "conspiracy theory" as you want us to believe, why even address it at all?
Either it is true, or it is not. To address it in this manner only serves to fuel the fire that Lieberman’s campaign is actually hiding a significant amount of support (maybe not financial) from the RNC.
David (Austin Tx) | Homepage | 09.06.06 – 8:39 pm | #What’s next, you want us to provide evidence that Joe Lieberman doesn’t beat his wife?
Actually, that would be great.
NTodd, Blogsatz Eliterach | Homepage | 09.06.06 – 8:40 pm | #Are you really suggesting that if Joe took money from Republicans then he also beats his wife? Because you know it’s possible that he took money from Republicans and does not beat his wife. I don’t know why this Dan Gerstein is making baseless accusations like that against Joe. Doesn’t Joe have enough to worry about in this campaign (his voting record, his flip-flopping, his self-righteous personality) without jerks like Dan Gerstein making false accusations?
winklife | 09.06.06 – 8:48 pm | #First, Joe Lieberman does NOT beat his wife. Second, I will personally look into whether or not Joe’s campaign has taken a significant amount of money from registered Republicans. I don’t think so. But I can make sure. How’s that for transparency?
Dan Gerstein | 09.06.06 – 8:55 pm | #First, Joe Lieberman does NOT beat his wife.
I demand proof.
NTodd, Blogsatz Eliterach | Homepage | 09.06.06 – 8:56 pm | #Joe did not beat his wife to the lobbyist trough. My understanding is that she worked for a PR firm that represented clients with pending legislation before Congress well before Joe is being forcably retired from the Senate so that he can pursue his next career as a defense lobbyist.
JoeBlow | 09.06.06 – 9:00 pm | #And when did Joe stop beating his wife, anyway?
NTodd, Blogsatz Eliterach | Homepage | 09.06.06 – 9:01 pm | #As I’ve said, we will look into whether or not serious Republican contributions have been made to Joe’s campaign. I don’t think so. It may take a few days (I’m very busy), but we will post our findings on the blog. I promise.
Dan Gerstein | 09.06.06 – 9:10 pm | # (Ed. Note: The Lieberman Campaign now maintains that Gerstein never wrote this comment.)Dan, did you really claim the story to be false despite not knowing for sure whether or not there is any truth to the claim?
wow, DANGERstein strikes again…
steve | Homepage | 09.06.06 – 9:15 pm | #As I’ve said, we will look into whether or not serious Republican contributions have been made to Joe’s campaign. I don’t think so. It may take a few days (I’m very busy), but we will post our findings on the blog. I promise.
We all wait with bated breath.
I also want to know if Joe has accepted any contributions from kitten-eating cyborgs.
NTodd, Blogsatz Eliterach | Homepage | 09.06.06 – 9:16 pm | #That was not funny. You can disagree with Joe on issues, but it is ludicrous (and imature) to continue in this vein. To keep this up, is to stoop to the level of ridiculousness to which Dan himself has sunk.
Dan brought it up. I was merely picking up the ball and running with it. And I never, ever claimed to be mature. I’m actually here because I heard there would be better snacks than over at Eschaton. I was misinformed.
And for the record, I don’t beat my wife (well, she’s now my ex, but we’re still friends and my claim stands!).
NTodd, Blogsatz Eliterach | Homepage | 09.06.06 – 9:20 pm | #
Sigh.
"It’s actually a sunrise," Gerstein said. "It’s very much a sunrise."
Nice try, Dan-O. How long do you suppose it’ll be before they ban him from his own blog?
Two things I need to tell you all before I sign off.
1. It would be best if you didn’t go over to the Lieberblog and leave nasty comments. That’s the "mousetrap" bit that Matt Browner-Hamlin was talking about back there. They’ve been collecting nasty comments so they can harvest them and do posts like this one.
As some of you may have also noticed, our site has been quite a popular destination for our opponents. Our hope, maybe over-optimistic, was that they would behave in a civil and responsible way in expressing their disagreements. But as the Lamont campaign’s Internet guru Tim Tagaris predicted, the comments have been overwhelmingly snide and insulting, far more diatribe than dialogue.
Oh, woe is Dan! Fie! Fie upon the Cannibals of Blogistan! Beware! Bewaaaaaaaaaaare!!
After all, No One Could Have Predicted the arrival of hostile commenters!
2. Contribute now to the fund for Marcy’s book. (Full Disclosure Moment: I have a personal stake in this. If things go well for Marcy, there is a chance that there will be a TRex book from the FDL press! Eeeeeeeeeeeee!!!! So give early and often!!)
Thank you!
Good night.
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TRex Forever!
TRex, I found a way for you lure [danger stein] into your reptilian lair of doom :)
For those on the earlier thread who were looking to find out who sits on the boards and serves in key executive roles of various public companies, a good place to start is the public filings, which can be searched online. The website for the sec is http://www.sec.gov Once you are at the site, click on companies and other filers, then click on search company filings (I’m doing this from memory so this might not be perfect). Then you can do searches for any company’s filings by name or keyword – it is easy. Then focus on the most recent proxy statements, annual or semi annual reports, which have a fairly extensive amount of information about the individuals who serve as officers or trustees (including the names of the other directorships held by trustees) Once you have the names, it shouldn’t be difficult to start googling around for email addresses and contact information.
And while you’re at http://www.sec.gov take a look around – there are a lot of search functions that will help you to untangle corporate webs. I’d love to see FDL sleuths go to town over there. It is an underutilized resource by the netroots because google searches seem to miss all of these filings – they just don’t seem to show up at google for whatever reason…
Gosh, where is everybody?
Alas, I knew this would happen. My reign as FDL’s King of Late Nite has come to an end. All my beautiful wickedness! Ohhhhh, what a world, what a world.
I guess Jay Leno will be along shortly to take my job.
TRex,
Somehow I think you probably were a handful for your mother. Certainly Gerstein is probably wishing that your mom had washed your mind out with soap more often. Too late now…
Speaking of (or was it to?) cats and dogs, I like the MyCatHatesYou.com site. Maybe a “MyCatHatesJoeLieberman” website is needed. *ilson?
TRex, it’s still early out here in CA. We’re just getting into party mode!
I’m a TV star now (a whole sentence on the air!), I probably won’t hang out here much any more. :)
op99 @ 9
Details, please!!
And I hope you all have contributed to Marcy’s book.
P J Evans @ 8
Serious, I just now got home from work!
Oh, and this WATBlog is hillarity incarnate.
A TRex book? Really? Oooohhhhh that is an exciting thought……..
Thanks TRex, I haven’t laughed this much in weeks. The kitten eating cyborg did me in.
NTodd should do an FDL guest appearance.
Re: Marcy, can we have a money meter that gives more positive feed-back? It has been stuck at ~17k most of the day.
Anyone want to join me in starting Wife Beaters for Lieberman?
TRex @ 5
Jay Leno cowers in your shadow.
For many reasons *g*
Kurt @
3
After watching that video, someone has to have a clip of “One Million BC” with Raquel Welch.
[damm - the system edits out links to external images. :-( ]
TRex @ 10
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-283248
Wonderer @ 12
Suggested title: All The News That Fits, We Snark.
LMAO! Oh, man, that thread is funny! Someone should archive these so we can nominate joe2006.com/blog for a best-humor-site Koufax award!
I’d sure like to know what Tagaris statement he’s referring to, and if it was a “mousetrap” prediction. And as for “more diatribe than dialogue,” as we know well here at FDL, the main posters set the tone.
I think that quote is another example of foot-marksmanship by the Lieberman campaign. Nobody who isn’t active online is going care about “those nasty bloggers,” and anyone who is can go the site and see just how taunting and negative the main posts are.
AirportCat @ 22
I expect Joe Wilson will abstain for much the same reason (if anyone remembers his remarks at YearlyKos, and probably other personal appearances…)
That was hysterical. Seriously thank you DANGERSTEIN, you have to be a plant. I mean he can’t be THAT stupid…..
percy @ 14
Nah, too dangerous for me … Mrs. Cat has a black belt in TKD and I have to sleep some time.
TRex @ 5
You’re right, TRex — late night FDL snark is soooooo pre-Labor Day last week . . .
Last week is what, 65 million blog years ago? Now the blog zeitgeist is all about taking down Das Maus — this being the political season and all.
Snark be gone — we are serious game face politicos now . . .
It was nice while it lasted, but now — it’s September . . .
TRex, traffic is light because, honestly, joe2006.com is a lot funnier than you. In fact, Cup o’Joe is bringing down the entire left blogosphere.
op99 @ 24
Bitches.
Maybe what the pitifully inept Dangerstein meant to say was that Joe beats his wife to the cocktail weenies at the K-Street receptions…
just sent what I could to the book fund.
(relurking)
Reading posts on joe2006.com produces (for me) the same sensation of cognitive dissonance I get from watching foreign-language films (usually Japanese in the original) dubbed in bad English. Like aliens trying to pass as human beings. Coneheads.
triciawrites @ 27
Thank you, Tricia! My tentative future career thanks you!
Can I just interject here that I love the third movement of Beethoven’s “Moonlight” Sonata?
Why hasn’t joe2006.com been added to FDL’s blogroll? It would be the polite thing to do…
neurophius @ 31
Because it won’t be there long. Why waste the effort?
Sirota destroys Gerstein:
http://www.workingforchange.co…..0EBA8257DA
Why should the press believe a single thing Gerstein says?
percy @ 14
It tells you what kind of geek I am that this reminds me of a political graffito from Pompeii. Something on the order of “All the prostitutes endorse (name’s) candidacy for aedile.”
I’m trying to imagine a dinosaur listening to beethoven!!! what kind of headphones do you use? anyway, hi folks, i’m a constant lurker here from victoria b.c. in canada and i love fdl, but especially late night with trex. and get rid of bush please, the world is watching and praying.
I just cruised over for a cup o’ Joe, and noticed that they still have the “sunset” ad posted there. ROFL.
TRex @ 30
Moonlight Sonata is one of his “pop” sonatas.
Go listen to his Opus 109 and 111 sonatas, and report back!
*xyz @ 33
Isn’t that akin to pushing a lemming off a cliff?
I got your blogroll right here.
-Joe Lieberschnitzel
Also, Variety has a take on the ABC(Attack and Bash Clinton) crockudrama “Path to 2006 Republican Electoral Wins.”
Upside Down.
-GSD
AirportCat – LOL!
TRex:
Anyone who quotes this guy:
NTodd, Blogsatz Eliterach
is truly asking for trouble.
NTodd is well known as a world class wanker. Just ask him.
AirportCat @ 38
Lemmings off a cliff — more Mauswichtz propaganda!!!
Lemming populations don’t crash because they migrate over cliffs — they feed the owls and foxes and wolves and bobcats and occasional therapod predators; and then a lean year comes along and all of the northern forest critters die off — for lack of lemmings.
BTW, maybe someone already posted about this, but when I see:
Dangerstein
I read it Danger Stein.
But that’s just me, maybe.
Swopa @ 20
How did you know what I was going to say? Your comment appears as #20 quoting my #22. Is Rod Serling moderating tonight? And btw, Mrs. Cat is also a gorgeous blonde (like Jane and Valerie).
Packing up to head home. See you all in a bit.
TRex:
Pick up a 6pack of Coronas on the way home, I’m thirsty.
Cameronga @ 35,
Hi and welcome! As to getting rid of Bush, I’m praying too.
SteveAudio @ 43
That’s odd, I read it as “Dingy Stain”.
i have no idea why but for some reason “danger stein” sounds like it is pinkys’ (from pinky and the brain)last name
AirportCat @ 48
Very good! I like that.
TRex @
5
It was just a big, big day around here, and our little feengers are so tired. We still love you and your green, scaly skin!
AirportCat @ 48
There has to be some kind of psychic everybody-sees-something-different thing going on, ’cause I read it as “embarrassingly inept pinhead dressed in Michael Corleone’s hand-me-downs.”
Too funny. The image is perfect.
I see a case study in the Sore Loserman ‘06 campaign called “Political Self-destruction for Dummies.”
TRex, You may be denied a link but somewhere out there Wolcott howls and slaps his knee.
Test for Valley Girl
Whoa – VG, whatever you did may have worked!
I was going to bookmark “Cup o’ Joe,” a.k.a. joe2006.com, but I couldn’t decide which folder to save it in–Blogs, Politics, or Humor…
Yup, very interesting comments from the guys that link to the guys that Lieberman links to (they’re third down the line):
Yup, sure sounds like a swell bunch of guys Lieberman links to.
SteveAudio @ 43
Nah, I see that, too. I thought it was the point…
Ed*ard Teller @
2
Were you aware that Edward Teller was a bad guy? When I was a child, my dad led our family out of a benefit movie featuring the life of Edward Teller, since Teller was such a Reganite and because he betrayed progressive scientist Robert Oppenheimer in the McCarthy hearings.
From Wikipedia:
[Teller] was a prominent advocate of Ronald Reagan’s Strategic Defense Initiative, and he was later accused of over-selling the technical feasibility of the program.
Edward Teller (original Hungarian name Teller Ede) (January 15, 1908 – September 9, 2003) was a Hungarian-born American nuclear physicist, known colloquially as “the father of the hydrogen bomb.”
Of Jewish descent, Teller emigrated to the United States in the 1930s, and was an early member of the Manhattan Project charged with developing the first atomic bombs. During this time he made a serious push to develop the first fusion-based weapons as well, but these were deferred until after World War II. After his controversial testimony in the security clearance hearing of his former Los Alamos colleague Robert Oppenheimer, Teller became ostracized by much of the scientific community.
Kurt @ 37
OK on Op. 109, but Op. 111 seldom works.
In my 40 years of turning people on to the Beethoven piano sonatas after they had listened to the “Moonlight” or the first movement of the “M,” I’ve found the best next late sonatas to be Op. 53, Op. 57, and Op. 101.
Rich @ 58
Man, am I glad it was you who followed that link and not me. Creepy stuff.
bdu @ 59
Perhaos, But Stein is German and Yiddish for rock, or stone (cognate with English stone).
So “Danger Rock”? As in, dumb as a bag of…?
Back in a bit…
The early sonatas are another matter. The D major “Pastorale,” or Op. 10 – three of those suckers!
Wow, check this out:
http://joe2006.com/blog_for_joe.asp
“Joe’s Online Truth Squad” … that’s just … powerful, I’m nearly at a loss for words. Inspired, and inspiring. He’s a Great Man, I’m a small man.
Since Dangerstein’s blogroll is so pathetic, I wonder if we could make some suggestions?
They could start with Atlas Shrugged…maybe Pammy would do a special vlog just for Senator Lieberman.
Mary #56- Lawdy mam I sure hope it did. That Valley Girl is a champ!
Well I have an ABC letterhead writers ache. Calling it a night so I can do it again in la manana.
peace
This exchange cracked me up on Joe4Joe. Apparently someone started posting under “Darby R.,” a handle that was already in use by one of Joe’s few supporters. “Blankie” is Eric Blankenbaker, Joe’s Blogger in Chief.
neurophius @67
hope you’re not resposible for triggering another snark bender for trex
Way OT, but satisfying in a late nite sorta way . . .
While collecting double wide newspaper in preparation for changing the cat box, I found a Katie Couric caricature from last Saturday . . . in the Spotlight section no less!!!
Oh man, that is sooo going face up under the new litter!!!
SteveAudio @ 63
Maybe it’s supposed to be “Stein” meaning “beer mug?” As in, “Danger Stein” = Dan is a mean drunk? Maybe Lieberman doesn’t beat his wife because mean drunk Dan does it for him?
Ed*ard Teller @ 61
101 is also one of my favorites, along with 109. I also really dig Opus 54.
I like Moonlight, it’s just played to death hehe. Same with Pathetique and Appasionata.
Please be careful, when commenting about the idiocies going on at the Lieberman blog, to limit comments about Jewish, Yiddish or Israeli issues to items about which you are knowledgeable, as opposed to opinionated. FDL is usually good this way, but I smell traps being set to mine us for pullable quotes which could be pegged as “anti-Semitic.”
My concern troll moment for the week…
cameronga @ 70
I hope he has learned by now how to handle it. I was just trying to help him cope with his fears that he will lose his Late Nite gig because he’s not funny enough. I’m sure he could come up with a great script for Pammy…
T-Rex, great post you wonderful therapod you. (I think that could be set to a Gershwin tune)
Before I head off to bed, I’ve got great bread pudding for everyone. (made with donuts, it’s much better, and the dried cherries are soaked in rum)
op99 @ 69
Hypothesis: “Darby R.” (the original) is, in fact, Joe Lieberman. If you read the exchange with that thought in mind, it all fits together so well…
OT – Hey everyone, I need some help with a project to memorialize the 5th anniversary of 9/11 on Monday and was hoping you guys might help out. We are officially launching the Roots Project’s new SRP Newsweekly podcast this Sunday in its beta phase format and are soliciting the public’s input for this first podcast from the new SRP News team.
We have setup a new blog at http://srpnewsweekly.wordpress.com which will be periodically updated with news throughout the week as well as the primary location for listening to the SRP Newsweekly podcast every Sunday morning. We have a thread going there where we are asking the public to post a text comment which may be picked to be read on the podcast by one of the members of the SRP News team. We also have a voicemail number which can be used to leave your voice message which will be used as part of our podcast if you wish to leave your thoughts or recollections of your 9/11 experiences as an audio message.
To learn how you can take part in this podcast please visit the link to the thread left above. We hope you will help us make this first podcast of the new SRP Newsweekly a special one by taking part in this experiment to truly provide a voice for our community. Thanks in advance from all of us at the Roots Project and SRP News.
Kurt @ 73
EvilDrPuma @ 77
Oh, yeah, the whiiiiiiining. For all I know, that could have all been posted by 1 person – or by 5 people.
Home, now. Wondering what I should make myself for dinner. Maybe I will just go and rampage through a trailer park.
The Joe Blog reminds me of the fabulous grafitti found in a major university bathroom. It’s witty intelligent and just a so damn funny. One line after the other in an endless stream. It’s rolling laughter. And it just doesn’t end.
Side hurts . . .laffin . .
Kurt @ 73
With “Moonlight”, it’s ALL ABOUT the third movement. It’s like he knew that movement one would be played to death, so he sped it up and played it backwards for the third.
op99 @ 80
Are you suggesting that Joe Lieberman may suffer from a dissociative personality disorder? Maybe you should go over to Joeblog and ask Dan Gerstein.
EvilDrPuma @ 84
Why? He’d just lie, like he has about everything else. Or a fake Dan would answer.
Is speel cheker f*ckeed up for everone or just me?
I cannot believe I spent almost an hour over at Joes. Jeez, what a goofy mess that place is. Funny though. Why do I get the feeling that some of the snark sounds familiar? Do we know Ntodd?? Give me a hint.
TRex @ 81
from Trout Fishing in America, “We Are the Dinosaurs”:
We are the dinosaurs, bigger than a grocery store
Food is what we’re lookin’ for, to find enough’s a mighty chore
‘Cause everything in sight is just a little bite ROAR!!
I’m Tyrannosaurus Rex and I’m the leader of the pack
I could eat a hippopotamus and call it just a snack
The sound of my footsteps, it fills the world with fear
But what’s caught between my teeth
Could feed an army for a year
ReneND @ 87
I believe he’s an Eschatonian?
ReneND @ 87
I think I’ve seen NTodd over at sadly, no! before, but I don’t think he’s one of ours.
Wow there’s a lot of harder to find Beethoven on YouTube, whodathunkit. Now I must find Opus 54! :)
There’s even an Op 10 there, should I torture myself? hehe.
cameronga @
35
Hi, cameronga. Welcome…and we’re working on it.
TRex, this is like hunting with Dick Cheney, if you’re Dick Cheney. All I can think of, after reading the excerpt you put up, is “canned hunt . . . canned hunt . . .” There are some creative folks, though, who are doing their best to make it interesting.
All in all, it’s like driving past a car wreck. Even if it’s off to the side and not blocking traffic, everything slows down to a crawl, because you just have to slow down and look at the carnage.
It’s not a pretty site. Or sight.
TRex @ 90
Someone commented in a mail group I’m on that he’s ubiquitous in the left blogosphere.
Is there a name for that late night spoonful of peanut butter one gets out of bed to eat?
Just curious…
Kurt @ 91
Is there an Op 99?
end italics.
TRex!
My man – there is a God! Very funny!
Yes, I kicked in… So, what’s the cover art for your tome gonna look like?
Nice job TRex.
If this goes through – mucho thanks VG. I maybe even more of a pest over the weekends if I can post without going throughthe laborious log in.
Thankyou x##### below thread for the European Union link. It’s sad almost no US media or political source is mentioning the kidnap/torture aspects of Bush’s speech in a personal responsiblity context, but that story jives with what I have been hearing about the EU in general – that many nationstates and their people and press are not dropping this and dutifully looking the other way.
TRex @ 81
Find the trailer cooking the carbonara a few threads back… (not your mama’s mac’n’cheese, but now for something different)
Will contribute to the book fund and your future career when there’s an address posted (I know career options for 60 ft sauropods might be limited)
TRex, you wanna work in that Joe Lieberman is also all for cluster bombs of civilian targets?
Earth to Tony Blair -remember Princess Diana? What would she say about you sitting in the pocket of a country that is voting to ok the use of cluster bombs against civilian targets?
See that quasi-spherical object over there? Go pick it up and rub it and see what the magic 8
bombball tells you.Isn’t Blair going to work for Carlyle when he’s done?
Can’t let this go away without my book contribution. Now all I have to do is figure out PayPal.
newtonusr @ 98
First, I have to figure out what to write about. So much blog writing is topical to the events of the day, but we’re talking about a publication date (if it happens) well into 2007.
So, I dunno.
TRex if you are still here…great post…just ALOT to read….linky…linky…link form the liny to another link…but it has been really fun. Joe’s cup of blogoshit is funny. It is more amatuerish than my site and I just started in May.
KILL-JOY!
That’s like telling someone who goes to a filming of the show Jackass not to laugh, point and call them idiots when they kick each other in the nuts!
Hi HopeSprings!
op99 @ 96
There must be, since his works were numbered sequentially after his death hehe…but it’s not a piano sonata, so I have no idea what it might have been.
The kettle just died from blackness . . .
By ANDREW MIGA, Associated Press Writer Thu Sep 7, 7:18 PM ET
WASHINGTON – The Iraq War is center stage again in Connecticut’s increasingly nasty Senate race. Ned Lamont, whose upset of Sen.
Joe Lieberman in last month’s Democratic primary was fueled in large part by his opposition to the war, took fresh aim at Lieberman’s staunch support of the conflict in a new television ad Thursday.
The senator fired back, calling Lamont’s stance on the war “dangerous,” and complained, “at some point my opponent has to start dealing with fact and not just be a perpetual whiner.” [emphasis added]
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200….._senate_10
HOLY SHIT —- i mean HOLY JOE!
Maybe I’ll just make it a collection of columns and call it “TRex and the City”.
Mary @ 101
Mary, to quote Karl Rove, “I heard that too.”
TRex @ 109
David Sidaris became rich and famous with not much more . . .
Hi HopeSAT: I see my friend Darby (see my 69) had a clever retort for you, young lady.
Nate @ 106
Hi Nate!! Are you gonna go see “9/11 Press for Truth’?
op99 @ 112
Hopey was being all Zen. Saying more with less.
But, but I thought it was Dan himself that said Lieberman beat his wife…
Am I supposed to report joe2006.com/blog_for_joe.asp?
AirportCat @
66
Thank you TRex…I was gonna do a haiku then said, “fuck it”
PS…gave to Marcy
Go look at the Propaganda Remix Project and click on some of the posters. They do fantastic work. Some comment here made me remember them….
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 116
I wish I could afford to give more. Maybe I will match my prior donation when we hit the halfway mark.
TRex @ 81
How about scalloped potatoes?
recipe, preheat oven about 350, 8×8 baking dish exceedingly well buttered (yes, use butter, oil/Pam won’t do) very thinly slice potatoes to make about three layers or so in the pan (about 3-4) make approximately 2 cups of white sauce, add seasonings to your preference. I like the sauce thicker, so I use 3 tbs of flour to 2 tbs of butter. lay first layer of potato slices on bottom of dish, sprinkle chopped ham, roasted red pepper, and sauteed onion and a good handful of cheese and then about a third of the sauce, next layer of potatos, repeat, third layer finish off the sauce, sprinkle cheese, and bake for about 30 minutes or until potatoes are done. Voila. (Serve with a good wine, I like a chenin blanc. Or go with a red if you’re serving it with steak. Grandma made this as a side dish and would sometimes toss in chopped hardboiled eggs)
The Lieberman campaign blogger, Eric Blankenbaker, has provided me with evidence that Gerstein did not post this comment.
Screen caps are in the updated and corrected version of my post at Emboldened.
I put up a BLOG for the sole purpose of linking to progressive sites, particularly this one. Still working on the blog roll. I’m not a writer, but I keep thinking of things I want to say, so maybe I’ll just use it as a rant outlet :)
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 113
You know me Hope. I’m all about documentaries. Can’t get enough of them. As soon as I can sit down for an hour tonight I was going to watch Part 2 of your “The Power of Nightmares” series. I don’t think the Press for Truth is playing here though. I haven’t seen anything about it.
Or swing by the Northeast, and take some of this Bread (Donut) Pudding off my hands before I eat it all.
(And here I thought I was going to go to bed, after posting about that. *sigh* oh well much more interesting here)
TRex @ 109
How about “Star TRex”?
My Lieberman Haiku:
How many lies must
Pass the lips before the teeth
are forced to leave home?
Now I’m all confused…I thought it was Dan beating up Liebermans wife….
I do…there’s alink at my site to find when/if its playing near you. I’m all about getting linky with it now because of you Nate.
Such wrinkles, such whine
incomprehensible gits
snark and I spew drink
Matt Browner-Hamlin @ 120
Huh. So what does that mean I need to change here in my post?
Ah, fuck it. It’s their own fault for not knowing how to run a blog.
Well folks, I’m off. Have fun with the Lieberblog and eat well.
TRex @ 129
And frankly, that’s exactly what Gerstein would say if he wanted to back-track his way out of admitting that Joe received big RNC contributions. How persuasive was this “evidence”, Matt?
LindyH @ 121
You could put joe2006.com on yur blog roll. I’m sure Senator Lieberman is a progressive, or at least a liberal, in his own mind…
Hey TRex,
Just clicked, thanks to the idea of cover art: I have a quite nice (if I do say so myself) 40″ x 30″ color print of the TRex at the Denver Museum of Natural History that I did when working with the main photog who photographed the improvements there in ‘03. It’s from a 4 x 5 negative, not 8 x 10, but is still solid at size. If you email me your snailmail, I’ll send it to you.
TRex @ 129
Just put in a disclaimer at the top: “This post is a docu-drama, based on . . .” If you need a model, I hear ABC’s got a good one that’s been quite the conversation piece the last couple of days.
Nite, pups. falling asleep.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 126
Actually, it’s Dan beating up Joe, with every move he makes. Somebody stop him, before he goes after a Cheney endorsement!
No kidding neuro…
Night Lindy H
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 126
My money’s on Hadassah beating Joey. She’s the hardest thing I ever saw with 2 “X” chromosomes.
I gotta go watch part 4 of “When The Levees Broke” before I shut off my cable tomorrow…
Night all…’tanks for da laffs TRex….Great post.
http://www.vetojoe.com
;)
Wait! Op…film yet??
Hadassah sounds like the name of a city. Or a missile.
810film @
133
No worries. We’ve got a looooong time to think about it. If it looks like we may need it, I’ll check back.
810film @ 142
The Hadassah X-14.
TRex @ 131
Varied IP addresses. Blankenbaker claimed the first quote was from Gerstein’s IP and two others I quote (including the one you use that I commented on) are from non-Gerstein IPs. He sent me screen caps of all three and they are in fact from three different IP addresses.
Now, Gerstein could have posted the first comments from work and a later comment from home, which is a plausible explanation for him using two IPs. I don’t have any evidence disproving that hypothesis and the Lieberman campaign hasn’t sent it my way.
Gerstein also could be using an IP scrambler. But that would mean he knew what he was doing and nothing in the Lieberman campaign suggests anyone knows what they’re doing, so I’m disinclined to believe it.
You’re right, though. They brought this on themselves. I’ve been repeatedly telling Blankenbaker that he would solve all his “fake” comment problems by setting up a commenter registration system. They haven’t done it yet and this dog bites the hand that feeds it.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 141
No, I’m too lame. Maybe tamarrah.
TRex @ 129
Reviewing the link provided, TRex, I saw this:
and what followed was this paragraph:
SO the Lieberman campaign’s own nitwit web guy (who still uses .asp pages… HOT TECHNOLOGY… for five years ago…) has confirmed that DANGERSTEIN said that they’re going refuse to provide evidence that Lieberman beats his wife.
Original post? UNAFFECTED.
how’s that trailerpark coming?
Beethoven’s Piano Sonata Op 101 for anyone interested.
(that’s just the 1st movement…listen to the other 3 in order if you like hehe)
Ah you give me too much credit Hope. I’m off to check your blog for showtimes. I need to get in touch with you this week because I wanted to ask your help with something I think you’ll like.
The IP from the first comment is a Comcast IP in Connecticut.
The second comment comes from a BellAtlantic IP, which may lend some credence to the work/home scenario…
and I just realized that the central conceit of the comedy of the OP was not affected by the possibility that the second comment came from a different IP, but that the parsing of his weasel language WAS.
So. apologies.
Patrick @ 147:
I agree. The most pertinent comment – Gerstein raising the fact that Joe DOESN’T beat his wife – is definitively Gerstein. The Lieberman campaign neither proved or disproved the second Gerstein comment and in this situation that makes me think it too is an authentic Gerstein.
The others are vastly less relevant.
The larger problem is that because Joe’s blog runs Haloscan comments, everything becomes unverifiable. My dialogue with Blankenbaker came after a comment posted on another LieberThread by “Eric Blankenbaker” suggested Lamont supporters go back to the caves of Afghanistan. I emailed him asking him to verify that it was in fact him who said it and he denied it. He then challenged the accuracy of my post, saying Gerstein had only posted one of the comments I discussed. I asked him for proof and he sent me the screen caps (which I now see are poorly formatted on my blog). I corrected my post in regards to the authorship that I had proof for and moved on.
Patrick @ 150:
The Lieberman campaign uses Comcast as their ISP. Comcast was the cause of the problems with joe2006.com’s visibility for some people – a problem which only took two days to fix…
Matt Browner-Hamlin @ 145
My suspicion is that, since they’re not using any off-the-shelf blogging software I have ever seen and what they are using is that crap .asp server-side-include backbone, comment registration would either be prohibitively difficult or would have to be hand-rolled from scratch.
So I don’t suspect you’re going to see any comment registration implemented there any time soon. I could be wrong, but that’s my guess.
OT: The following is the most under-reported story in my recent memory.
Whenever a story is under-reported or over-reported, I suspect powerful forces of working an agenda. At the risk of violating ET’s admonition, does anyone want to hazard a guess?
Oh, Lord, here comes the avalanche of geekery.
Patrick, Matt, Matt, Patrick.
Patrick is my real life twin brother in case you didn’t know, that, Matt.
I’d hazard that my posting corrections to my blog post based on evidence provided to me by the Lieberman campaign is exactly why it is unlikely the that progressive blogosphere will not need any actual Blogger Ethics Panels in the near future.
That’s something that the traditional media doesn’t get. For all of our partisanship, we care about accuracy. At least I do. The Lieberman campaign gives me more than enough material – legitimate, undisputed, horrific material – to work with that I don’t need to base a post on a fake comment. So I correct it. If the traditional media cared about accuracy 1/10th as much as the run-of-the-mill partisan progressive blogger does (a category I’d say I fall squarely into), we wouldn’t have to write about media incompetence and bias on a daily basis.
TRex @ 155
Hi, Matt.
Actually, I have been sick all day and am still feeling pretty puny, so that’s all the geek i got right now.
I am probably going to lurk for a few more minutes and then hit the hay…
Wigwam @ 154
ReThugs, I sort of get. I’m gonna go find out what RatF*cking Dems didn’t support it!
TRex @ 155
Geeks are the new black you know.
http://www.joey2006.com
Urban Pirate @ 160
That is awesomeness squared to the 10th power!
2006joe.com
TRex, the cover art suggestion only reminded me of the rolled print (I just moved) I have, that has not seen the light of day for awhile, and which might benefit from gracing a trailer wall (like a mirror, but different); it’s an offering in the immediate sense, not a bid for future use…
‘night.
http://www.2006joe.com
Patrick @ 153:
Plus I think they’re petrified of having their site go down for comment maintenance. Any interruptions of service are going to result in a swarm of head-vs-stick blogging (and rightly so). I think they’re afraid of us talking about how shitty their internet ops are and thus they’ll keep with the craptastic model they’re running with now [Read teh full blog post now].
Yeah TRex, I know Patrick is your twin, though I think it’d slipped my mind during this discourse. In fairness, I’m drinking irish tonight having just got back from a terribly disappointing debate (pause for sympathy). But what else to do? It’s FRIDAY!
I love NTodd’s site:
http://www.dohiyimir.org/ReneND @ 87
Wigwam @ 154
This was talked about a few threads back earlier today. Oh we’re keeping track hehe. I’ve got a spreadsheet where I’m tracking stuff like that. I’m sure other people are too, we’re a pretty geeky bunch.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 161
Hah.
Oh GOD I’m a geek
Debate = DATE. A date.
Freud can commence commentary now.
Matt Browner-Hamlin @ 169
Well for starters, try less debating and more snogging :)
Matt Browner-Hamlin @ 156
Wow! well said Matt and thank you for your integrity. I am so lucky to have landed in this part of the blogosphere first time out. That-dart-in-the-map thing really works ;)
op99 @
94
i think some of watertiger’s pretty country pix were taken during a recent visit to the lake house of NTodd. If it’s the same Ntodd.
That Darby thing has me creeped out about who’s who.
“Are you really you, op99?”
Matt Browner-Hamlin @ 169
Aw. Poor Matter.
Hang in there.
Patrick @
95
fiance sez that peanut butter has triptophan, like turkey, and makes you sleepy. so maybe it’s “triptophan urge.”
TeddySanFran @ 174
I’ve always called it “a reason to get down the bag of chocolate chips”.
TeddySanFran @ 174
Thats funny. I do it too. I crave sugar.
Of course I’m watching MSNBC show about gastric bypass surgery – I dont ever want to eat again.
Teddy!
Do you have the number for KGO , channel 7? I’m gonna call them per your suggestion last thread. Hope has 415 cell number
TeddySanFran @ 174
That actually makes perfect sense, because it’s always when I am having difficulty falling asleep that I get up and get peanut butter.
We could call it a ‘triptocicle,’ maybe….
You know, I thought when I quit doing drugs that I would stop eating huge amounts of sugar in the middle of the night.
Nope.
warm milk, little nutmeg, tiny bit of honey, heated up but not boiling….a vitamin B complex…just like Valium
when I see:
Dangerstein
I read it Danger Stein.
But that’s just me, maybe.
Actually, it’s “Donger-SHTEEN.”
dave @ 180
Mweeeee-heeeeeee-heeeeeee…
TeddySanFran @ 172
NTodd rocks. Hard. I mean, really hard.
He was actually one of the first bloggers of note to quote me and I was a commenter at his site, Dohiyi Mir, for a long while. It’s a fantastic blog – NTodd is an incredibly open blogger about his personal life, a gifted photographer, and a true moral compass in the blogosphere. His series of posts “Why We Fight” is one of the best articulations of why Americans need to resist the Bush administration’s fascistic creep.
uh oh…getting moderated…I used a drug named Val**m in the comment…And it was so innocent….Warm milk and all
No showing in Hawaii Hope.
Sorry your debate with your date didn’t go well Matt. For future reference, perhaps the debating should be held in reserve for the next level of the relationship and not brought out in the first evening spent with the intended paramour?
I tried arguing with girls to go out with me for a while in my 20s and it didn’t work too well. That eventually led to my current addiction to Bittorrent porn downloads and a warped view of engaging in romantic relationships as something akin to willingly tongue cleaning the men’s toilet bowls in an all night taco stand in Tijuana.
Caveat: I may need to see a professional about relationship issues in general. Now, choosing which professional is the tricky part…
TRex @ 181
/em plays the violin plaintively
Nate @ 185
You could do a showing Nate… it’s there in the link.
uh, I think the triptocicle is working.
I am going to turn out the light.
Regards, folks.
Have fun whacking that DANGERSTEIN piata.
Funny thing, this year has turned the life of a satirist into what the military likes to call “a target-rich environment.”
Not only is the Emperor not wearing any clothes, he’s kind of a dolt, too.
I have Ntodd on my blogroll…he rocks
and got blog-pimped here tonight-twice.
TRex @ 175
oooh, look, Teddy’s in a twin sandwich!
TeddySanFran @ 190
You dirty, dirty man.
Don’t you dare think about my brother like that!
Ew.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 177
954-7777
i’ll have to call tomorrow, since they haven’t answered a fucking one of my polite no-swear emails.
here’s what I sent to the network brass and board tonight. Since they are probably fucken boomers like me, I tried to make it relevant to the big fucken American tragedy of our upbringing:
Patrick @ 178
Speaking of words that begin with tri-, have you heard about the triathletes in the upcoming Amazing Race? One team member apparently has a prosthetic leg.
the fiance calls that team the Tripod Trathletes!
{apologies, etc.}
And the ARace season hasn’t even begun! Also, more gays this year!
TRex @ 179
The only way to stop eating huge amounts of sugar is… to stop eating huge amounts of sugar. Stopping drinking helps. Lotsa sugar in there.
Not that I’m recommending stopping anything from personal experience, mind you.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 180
honey, i luvs me some EssEff transported to Texas, but surely you know there’s nothing just like Valium!
Can we take some time out from criticizing the Mickey Mouse operation that Joe Lieberman is running to criticize the Mickey Mouse operation that the New York Times is running, in reviewing the Mickey Mouse operation that Mickey Mouse is running — regarding 9/11?
NYT Review of “Path” Misrepresents 9/11 Commission Report over at Kos has the story.
Thanks…Teddy..I’ll call in the morning…OK..really going now…Too good in here tonight. Thanks all..
Hugs and Kisses
-HopeSwimsDeepOnATurtle
I dare someone to steal my name…
And letters to letters@nytimes.com
And a truly great graphic over at Kos of Mickey Mouse, pockets stuffed with money, stomping on the 9/11 Commission’s Report.
Grossly OT:
In Senate today – Feinstein amendment 4882 to HR 5631 (Def appropriations ‘07)
Proud Dems who voted to allow the unrestricted use of Cluster munitions in populated areas, because it’s not the business of the Legislature to presume to tell the President what he can and can’t do as Commander-in-Chief:
Bayh (D-IN)
Biden (D-DE)
Clinton (D-NY)
Dodd (D-CT)
Inouye (D-HI)
Landrieu (D-LA)
Lautenberg (D-NJ)
Lieberman (D-CT)
Lincoln (D-AR)
Nelson (D-FL)
Nelson (D-NE)
Pryor (D-AR)
Rockefeller (D-WV)
Salazar (D-CO)
Schumer (D-NY)
Yeah. They’re brilliant!
And a list of advertisers who buy time on ABC, for those who want to write or call to ask them to pull their ads from that Mickey Mouse network.
See ABC Sponsor pulls ads. We are being heard!
Emboldened Blog Archive Gerstein Responds! @ 198
Oh that’s right, I responded to TRex & Gerstein! I even tried my hand at Ye Olde Snarke…
MS @ 60
Yeah, I know about Edward Teller. You’re new here, right?
Matt Browner-Hamlin @
183
Can’t sleep. Checking in and find my Ntodd answer. Thanks everyone. Think I’ll grab some peanut butter and go over for a visit. Suppose he is still over at Joes.
op99 @
89
NTodd is a regular over at Atrios’ (freeloads the snacks). Plays a pretty mean blog hisself, too.
TRex @ 155
Patrick is the far more handsome one.
For starters, he’s not green. With, you know, scales.
Ronzoni Rigatoni says
I love this handle.
But it’s making me hungry again.
Reading the NYT review of P9/11. Came close to spewing when I got to In 2001 President Bush and his newly appointed aides had ample warning, including a briefing paper titled “Bin Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.,” and they failed to take it seriously enough, but their missteps are not equal. It’s like focusing blame for a school shooting at the beginning of the school year on the student’s new home room teacher; the adults who watched the boy torment classmates and poison small animals knew better.
I thought the NYT fired Judy Miller.
SteveAudio @ 208
I’m going to pretend you didn’t say that, Steve.
Hmph.
*sulks*
I’m going to bed.
Aw, TRexie, you know I love you.
And green is so, well, masculine. No wait, it’s so…decorative.
Yeah, that’s the ticket!
SteveAudio @ 213
Green is the goddess’s favorite colour; she made more of them than of any other colour.
SteveAudio @ 208
Hey, I resemble that!
**Off to bed. thanks fire pups, you guys really helped me more than you know tonight..**
More greens? That sounds like a political movement.
Or a salad.
Ed*ard Teller @ 211
Hi ET, congratulations on the Scholastic cave — while it might not be all we fought and hoped for, it is a significant win. I thought immediately of you when I saw the story hit the internet: “Ed*ard will be so pleased!”
How goes the VECO?
TRex,
Back away from those Triceritops eggs right now. Your mom is coming up on the other side of the trailer park. If Patrick doesn’t get his fair share of the eggs, you’re in deep, deep dino doo-doo…
WaPo chatz tomorrow:
Dan Balz, Political Reporter, at 11 eastern:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00847.html
Don’t you know junior high had to be tough for Dan?
newtonusr @
203
They can’t even tell the President not to commit war crimes, because that might interfer with his powers as commander in chief. In fact, the use of indiscriminate weapons (e.g., cluster bombs) IS a war crime, and by the 1996 War Crimes Act, war crimes are federal offenses (and capital offenses if the victim dies). I guess that these Democratic senators will vote to amend the War Crimes Act too.
TSF,
Thanks!
Veco case is going to be bigger here than people are ready for. More important today was the refusal of the BP pipeline safety engineer to testify in front of congress in DC.
Wigwam @ 220
Ed*ard Teller @ 221
I read somewhere that the GOP Senate challenger to Maria Cantwell has had to return VECO money.
And how can a BP engineer refuse to testify to Congress? What could go wrong? It’s not like this Congress is going to swear in an oil company employee, right?
wigwam, is congress submitting, in this vote, to the president’s ability to conduct war or to the distribution of the munitions to third parties?
TSF,
He was sworn in. That’s why he took the 5th…
g’nite, lovely pups!
TeddySF, yes, Mike McGavick (R-DUII) candidate for senate in WA returned $14,000 on Friday, while the FBI and IRS Raids were still going on. Guess that hot potato was more than he wanted to deal with.
The search warrants included any information regarding payments to legislators.
I can’t wait to see how big the fallout is in the Alaska case.
great tripload of snark! thanks
How long do you suppose it’ll be before they ban him from his own blog?
rich.
PATRICK! You still around?
Oh well, never mind. You’re probably having a saurian intervention, ’cause, you know, TRex is eating the poor white trash at the local down-on- its-heels trailer park, and he accidently ate some nice Christian folks, who were carrying bibles and going door-to-door, and they gave him bad indigestion.
He’s hit bottom, that’s for sure.
I did two (separate) Rolling Stone interviews and a Time Magazine interview in the past 2 days and they all wanted to know about the controversy over us having Siun as a press secretary.
I didn’t know there was a controversy. News to me.
Jane:
Controversy over Siun specifically, or a blog having a Press Sec.?
I mean, clearly this is either being manufactured by RS, which seems unlikely, as they actually seem to have good reporters.
So someonw in the blogosphere is making a fuss, but nowhere I have seen.
Must be Freepervill, et al.
Oh, I’m going to be on a Debra Bowen conference call next Monday night, I’ll let you know how that goes.
Ed*ard Teller @ 223
Ed*ard Teller – that’s me taking liberty with Senator Toobz:
AP piece found here and elsewhere…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..ster_bombs
Here’s a media review of that ABC swill I can live with: USAToday
ABC still has time to come to their senses.
Jane, hiring a press secretary is controversial? Maybe in the tiny minds of rightwing bloggers who get 10 hits a day.
How funny. If RS and Time want to spead a little FDL love, we’ll take it. More page hits, and more contributors to the conversation and the FDL publishing fund. Works for me! :D
Jane-
Yeah, is Xtina from another planet?
Any chance you’ll get a chance to sit with Taibi for RS?
Before I finish the article, does Joe beat her over here so that he doesn’t have to beat her over there?
I noticed that people are using Joe Lieberman’s web site to advertise PORN. My GOD! WHO COULD HAVE DONE SUCH A THING!
bigranger | Homepage | 09.08.06 – 5:22 am | #
click on the “comments” section when you get to the Lieberblog and check the post with this timestamp. It links to the dreaded PORN.
Jane –
The reporters called it a “‘controversy.” So, did they mention just WHAT, substantively, was controversial?
That you brought Siun in to do it? That Siun was the one brought in for that role?
What did you learn when you said, “Uh, WHAT controversy?” [Presuming, you said that, of course…]
I hate it when so-called reporters ask “leading questions” in such a manner as to try to force the interview subject to accept the frame itself (usually a very unfair frame). There are lots of folks (NOT including you here, Jane) who don’t even think to challenge the form of the question itself, or can’t think quickly enough on their feet (again, most definitely NOT including you in this category).
Now that I’ve managed to catch up with the comments in this thread, and piped up a little bit, I find I’m really sleepy.
Oddly enough, I read the tryptophan bit about peanut butter right in the middle of eating some peanut butter! I take a supplement in powder form which is very sour in taste, and the only thing powerful (and sticky!) enough to clear the taste is a spoonful of peanut butter. I always take it right before bedtime, so now I’m gonna wonder if it makes me sleepy, or if I got sleepy first…
Nighty-night dear firepups! Blessings on all who love truth and seek justice.
Nighty night to Mrs K6 and
Good Morning to Others Our part of the world is foggy this morning, temperature about 58. Can’t see across the field in back, but best wishes for a great day for all………
Hi there, OS, and everybody else!
OS, K8 — good morning!
Morning, Pups!
TRex, thanks for quoting that exchange from my blog about Joe’s alleged “wife beating”. Even now, I giggle when I read it. Dan Gerstein is the straight man that every comedian on the internet DREAMS about!
Joe’s blog is the gift that just keeps on giving…I don’t know what I’ll do when they finally take it away (and it’s been up now for 2-1/2 days; I give it another couple days at most).
For kicks, one of my readers sent me this link; Eric is Joe’s blog “moderator”; my readers rock:
http://ericblankenbaker.com
Justin Raimondo has a little something to say this morning……GOP RIP
“Republicans are headed for a drubbing at the polls, and it couldn’t have happened to a more deserving party. “
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9669
Imm…hows the day? Did you get some good feedback for your possible questioning of Bob Mueller?
Greetings Bob. Thanks to the likes of you we may see a new day dawning over the Old US of A. h/t
OK day — got some very good feedback — thanks all!! — and I am trying to synthesize one question…. I’ll post it up in comments later.
And Tom Englehardt…This is a great article……
9/11 in a Movie-Made World
http://www.antiwar.com/engelhardt/?articleid=9664
CTBob I haven’t stopped laughing since the parade.
I’ve been following the wife beating and just when you think it can’t get any funnier…
IT DOES!
Dangerstein, what a pitch man, he can’t get out of his own way.
Normally is he the 11th or the 12th guy out of the Volkswagen?
Apologies if this has already been mentioned
Senate Democratic leadership threatens Disney with legal and legislative sanctions
http://americablog.blogspot.co…..atens.html
hi, old sow, imma, bob,
i’ve been out of circulation for a few days but i’m back now and trying to catch up.
i think dan gerstein should ask debbie howells to come over from wapo and be his ombudsman. i’ll bet she could really get the ball rolling.
and has anybody wondered if maybe it was actually hadassa that was doing the s & m number on joey? i mean, you know how rumors do have a life of their own. i can picture that. bet dark black could
too, if he hasn’t already…… just askin’.
Freakdaddy—now that is good news
Morning/afternoon Far, how’s life across the puddle?
mornin’ all
Joe’s internet folk are clueless idiots! I personally now own:
http://www.LieberBlog.com
http://www.BlogofJoe.com
http://www.BlogJoe2006.com
http://www.Joe2006Blog.com
cnn – suicide bomber blew him(her)self up alarmingly close to US assets within a secure zone. says taliban is making a big come-back.
Yeah, I know. It’s getting so I can’t read Joe’s blog anymore unless I have an hour to burn. Once I go in there, I just can’t tear myself away! It’s awful.
;)
*ilson46201 – how about Guliani2008.com, mccain2008.com?
ot, I’m sure this will get epu’d and I’ll repost, but I just can’t wait
here’s ssomething everyone is REALLY going to get a ckick out of
watch the think progress clip
wow, I NEVER thought I’d quote this guy defending Clinton, but there it is, laying the internet myth to waste
never to be used again in political discussion without getting ridiculed
you guys want to get a kick, take a look at the discussion I had on my board
http://forum.osnn.net/showthread.php?t=86216
pretty good stuff in there…
twolf1 @ 257
already bought by somebody else … oh well
Hi peeps. I saw Armitage’s “apology.” You know, the one where he feels so bad because he let down “Bush, Powell, colleagues, family, Wilsons.” Where he just couldn’t seem to come straight out and say, I’m sorry, Valerie. Ummmm, Richard, two things.
1) Valerie Plame Wilson should be the very first person you think of when you think about making an apology. And of course, Joe Wilson. You wrought terrible ongoing destruction there, Richard.
2) The United States of America should be the second. You let the country down, Richard. You let the American people down.
So – Dear Richard, after all this time, after all this energy and corruption, I would think that you could have figured out what really happened by now. Here’s hoping you have time to do some deeper thinking about all of it. And the role you played in this long national nightmare.
meta @ 260
I love your post, I’d reverse the order, though, I’m pretty sure joe and val would agree
*ilson, here’s one for you from London:
The Siun Controversy - soon to be an ABC docudrama.
heeeyyyy, where’d everybody go ???
probably off hatching plans for another unwarranted assault on some poor defenseless
Conglomerate owned media outlet
Mornin’! :)
Good morning, Mary and cbl!
Mary @ 263
Are you Mary4?
If so, I loved your questions, thanks.
The saga continues. Or rather I should say, the editing continues. Looks like BillDawg called Iger last Friday?
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09…..mp;emc=rss
So imm, have you decided what you’re going to ask?
For any of you who are annoyed about the reports that Rove had three priests come in to bless Hillary Clinton’s old office and “drive out the evil spirits”, here’s a link with email addresses for the Archdiocese of Washington. Washington, in my experience, is one of the more liberal diocese in the country (particularly under McCarrick, who some days singlehandedly allowed me to still have faith in the R.C. Church). Ask them if this thing really did occur. Ask them if they knew that their priests were “driving out evil spirits” associated with Mrs. Clinton. But be polite about it, of course.
http://www.adw.org/contact/default.asp
Yep Imman – I need synch my computers, but now that VG has it fixed so I can post from this one, I’m scared to change anything. lhp seemed to think my questions were laughable :(
I’d be happy to call Buffet or Gates for them, if NSA would just pipe in on my next call and give me the numbers.
BTW – if Jane was planning on Greg Palast for the Book Salon, it might be good to get him on sooner rather than later. Per kossite – he’s got a little DHS problem.
meta — I am torn between two questions — one about the President defining legality for the FBI (versus the Congress or the Constitution) and the other about using tortured confessions as evidence.
Suggestions?
Mary4. lhp is ever the pragmatist. And worked for the DOJ. I think she is right that they would not get answered in that form in the forum I will be in, I do think they were very useful in narrowing down my own Q’s (see 270 above). So, thanks!
PS, Isn’t Valley Girl just the best?
Imm, wow – that’s a tough choice. They are both extremely important and timely. But perhaps one is derivative of the other. Bush defining everything for everyone.
Imman – I was teasing about lhp (who had solid, worthwhile stuff) – I wasn’t really thinking they’d get you anything other than a seat next to Palast. ;)
Terry – I hadn’t heard that story, but to be fair to Rove, I can understand the worry. Happens all the time when you move – I can understand him thinking: My office – I want to move in my own evil spirits -had them too long to give them up?!
Betcha he put in an evilspiridoor for them to wander the halls too. They probably frolic with Addington’s evil spirits.
Good Morning, and fresh new mouse up yonder.
Jane, I think the press secretary thing is a controversy only because they can’t figure you out. You are moving too fast for them, and moving in very significant ways. You’re successful, and they don’t know how to understand or define your success. So for them, that reads as controversy. It’s their way of keeping you within their reality spectrum. God forbid.
VIP – Valley Girl – Absolute BEST!
Wonder what kind of torture they are dreaming up for Palast?
Which reminds me – OS, thanks for the reminder to read Justin at Antiwar. Great perspective.
Meta, yes, they are both sort of on the same page, I want to get at the Director’s ideas about his agency’s place in the controversy. FBI agents reportedly refused to play along with the shit at Guantanemo. A high point for this administration and the Bureau, as far as I am concerned. I would love to get an answer, so I am trying to be supportive yet inquiring in tone.
Mary4 — I just checked out the thread and what lhp ACTUALLY said was that the questions were very funny. Which they are. Especially the Gates one whioch is so right-on and humerous that it might get through the screener. Y’know, Mueller is famous for not being able to use email — no computer skills at all. It would give him an opportunity to be self-effacing
Mary, if you’re still here, you might wanna keep an eye on Raw Story, where there’s this new headline:
Mainstream media ignored torture, homicide… Soon…
Mornin’ Firepups
well, I’ll be dam….d! local ABC station morning news actually HAS the story about the crapumentary and the controversy on the early morning news this a.m.! been writing the G.M. at the station – got one reply, but haven’t heard back since…
TRex – sorry to miss the party last night! busy-busy, work work work!
Mary @ 269
Mary,
The good kind of funny. I loved the snark of it, the cheekyness. They made me laugh, that does not mean they were laughable.
immanentize @ 270
If your taking a straw vote, I vote for the first one.
In fact can I vote for it twice? The torture thing, is really for the courts and the rules of evidence to deal with. The who defines legality thing forces him to rember who he works for–Us not Shrub
imm, I appreciate the delicate nature of making an inquiry like that. But your curiosity is rich with all that we have witnessed and not been able to understand, so the question is an honest one. I hope you’ll be able to let us know the response. Good luck!
Imm – I think meta and lhp have a good point. OTOH, I think you’ll get a Gonzales-ey Alito-ey answer (no one is above the law - but glossing over the, but hey, that Marbury v. Madison thing is soooooo pre9/11 thinking, we follow the law – right it and interpret it, all inhouse.)
And with torture you’ll get the “we don’t torture” answer.
Maybe you should ask for a demo of waterboarding. Mueller can show how it’s not biggie – maybe he’ll even let you wander the halls stripping and hooding agents?
Seriously- FBI is in the crappiest situation of all. Not an ez job in this admin.
need more coffee – right it could, in an alternative universe, be “write” it.
Ed*ard Teller @ 225
Took the fifth? I hope Justice is all over that.
Good morning, pups, she chirped.
Peterr @
93
…Although I must admit that even through my alcoholic haze, I feel a twinge of guilt at the thought of taking aim at a dumb, defenseless Dangerstein, who’s been released into the confines of a box on the internet for my snarking pleasure.
I’m betting 10 days–tops–before the “82nd Chairborne” sends in reinforcements and an all-out flamewar ensues.
op99 @
138
Of course, maybe Joe’s into that sort of thing?
I like how the “See what Joe has done for you”, where you click on the counties — TURNS THEM RED — how appropriate
Oh, thanks for sharing that. I am days late and would have missed this all together had it not been for a link from a link… That would have been a terrible loss. I laughed and laughed and… NTodd took the “so when did you stop beating your wife?” shtick to new heights.