
With what may be the funniest caption I've seen in quite a while, Keith Olbermann interviewed Richard Ben-Veniste yesterday evening regarding the truthiness of the ABC 9/11 miniseries. Crooks and Liars has the video clip and it's quite well done and worth a watch.
My favorite part is Tom Kean saying he had the ability to have the writer and producers change inaccuracies in the film -- to ensure that it was based on facts and not fiction -- and then Olbermann and Ben-Veniste discussing all the factual inaccuracies that Kean allowed to slide right through and into the film. Classic.
Olbermann discussed the false and misleading study guides being given out to kids through Scholastic -- although last night, there was some question as to whether those materials had been scrubbed from the Scholastic website. Media Matters has more on the Scholastic materials, and the factual misrepresentations therein. (And they have pulled the PDF's that Scholastic was touting, so you can still take a peek at them via Media Matters, even though Scholastic has scrubbed the ability to search for them on their website at this point.)
Look, it is perfectly legitimate to provide materials from both sides of the political aisle, to discuss theories with kids in school, to talk about legitimate differences of opinion or approach or philosophy/ideology and political viewpoint. It's called education in terms of political discourse -- and a discussion of how things can be manipulated or used to further one agenda or another is a very, very useful discussion in terms of public education.
What is clearly not acceptable is to provide materials that are slanted or which have facts substantially in dispute -- from the very document from which they purport to be gleaned, in this particular case, since the materials in some spots don't even track the facts in the 9/11 Commission Report -- and then fail to label them as "theories" or "spin" or "partisan" or "propoganda" or some other label other than truth. (You know, what your mom and mine called "lying" when we were growing up.)
Because they are NOT truth if they cannot be backed up by facts. Period.
So Scholastic is at least reviewing the fiction versus actual facts in some way, and being responsive to concerns of parents regarding this fictional GOP-U-Drama. What is ABC doing? Well, it's executives are sending reassuring e-mails to Hugh Hewitt about The Path to 9/11: "‘The Message of the Clinton Admin Failures Remains Fully Intact." And they are still refusing to allow folks from the Clinton Administration to review the film -- although Brent Bozell said yesterday evening on MSNBC's Scarborough show that he's seen it, too, along with Limbaugh, and Hewitt, and the rest of the wingnut commenters and pundits.
Nope, no agenda there. Nosiree, Mickey.
UPDATE: Bolton confirmation hearings will begin this morning in the Senate. C-Span3 will begin coverage at 9:30 am ET. You can watch online here.
UPDATE #2: The Bolton hearing has not begun as yet -- am checking on why.
ThinkProgress has confirmed with Scholastic that the materials are temporarily down -- but could not confirm whether changes are being made or anything beyond that, but that materials are still going to be provided to teachers regarding the film.
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there’s nothing like waking up to the headline “Bush Acknowledges Secret Jails” to make you proud to be an American.
lina — SIGH yeah, I know. Am working on something on that for later today.
The thermometer is up to $16K, Chris Carney (PA-10) at Howie’s Blue America over $2k — yesterday was a good day!
Bush the Gulag Warden?
on your topic at hand: I’m glad to see Scholastic has gotten some significant pressure.
Morning Christy, thanks for keeping the fire under this one, and, as always, thanks for all you do.
And may I say FITZ?
Via google cache, the pdf links are still up.
http://content.scholastic.com/.....df/a/ABC_p df_2.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/.....df/a/ABC_p df_1.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/.....df/a/ABC_p df_3.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/.....df/a/ABC_p df_5.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/.....df/a/ABC_p df_4.pdf
while we fret (rightfully) over the gop-u-drama is not today the day of bolton’s confirmation hearings? a year ago we would have been all over ‘em a few weeks ago…
so much crap, so little time.
At least Scholastic *appears* to have seen the light.
I am focused on Disney and Apple.
So who’s working on the Rebuttal DocuDrama where W and Condi sit around poking fun at Richard Clarke and the Clintonista fear of Osama. You know the one where they *know* that Sadaam is the ‘real threat’.
Didnt copy correctly the first time
http://content.scholastic.com/....._pdf_2.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/....._pdf_1.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/....._pdf_3.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/....._pdf_5.pdf
http://content.scholastic.com/....._pdf_4.pdf
Did anybody happen to catch the Young Turks yesterday? You gotta see this, Cenk was on fire!
Cenk goes nucular!
there’s a diary over at Kos re how to keep up the pressure on Scholastic:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/7/83625/00494
Wonder what the heck Scholastic is doing at this point?
Watched that Ben-Veniste vid last night, and when Kean came on wiith that bold-faced promo talk, I was completely astonished. So he’s the co-Chair of the 9/11 commission and this is what he really believes????????? No wonder we’re in so much trouble.
We need to be sending out Fahrenheit 911 to all the schools.
I think I’m going to add gopudrama to my vocabulary. It’s a pretty good word for a lot of the Iraq war coverage, and a lot of recent movies, like the one that blamed Clinton for Somalia, even though it was Bush I who put US troops at risk there.
If this gopudrama airs unedited, it will be a travesty. Hopefully, ABC will have an attack of conscience and either edit out or allow respotses to the inaccuracies and blatant propaganda in this piece of crap. I’m not holding my breath. After all, ABC is the gopudrama network.
Bringing back the Fairness Doctrine should be a top Democratic priority. And busting up the media conglomerates.
o @ 8
There are enough of us to multi-task :)
We need to be sending out Fahrenheit 911 to all the schools.
Honestly, why don’t we? Michale Moore’s documentary is at least factual, in opposition to ABC’s work of fiction, which is full of made-up scenes.
lina @ 1
I have to say, though the facts and the speech are appalling, I was pleased that was the headline for it. (”Bush Confesses to Another Crime on National Television” would have been too much to ask.)
The intended message of the transfers was “we’re putting some known Very Bad People in Gitmo so people will believe us when we say all the prisoners are Very Bad People,” most news organizations acually latched onto the only newsworthy part, leading to headlines like this one instead.
Christy, spelling alert!
“philsophy/ideology”
This article is another great Spotlight candidate.
I’m surprised by Kean and his antics. He was a decent govenor here in NJ and always seemed like a good man.
My opinion of him flew out the window this week along with my opinion of Disney.
There’s something about a potentate having a chain of secret gulags that seems so Stalin era Soviet. How did we become the bad guys. I mean, America’s hands have never been completely clean, but we took a really evil turn starting in 2001.
Bolton’s hearing will be on cspan 3 @ 930.
LindyH,
thanks very much for the Birdoblog link downstairs - fabulous list linking us all to regular ABC advertisers
http://birdoblog.birdobot.com/disney_propaganda
Angie,
as always, thanks for bringing me up to speed - am always concerned when I hear the Chimp asking for “authorization” for anything - was worried it is Addington/Yoo fodder to bomb Iran
and again, in my fuzzyheaded state, am thinking these hastily called Bolton hearings mean Karl looked at the numbers and knows he wont have votes in January
anyone remember the film, “30 seconds over tokyo,” in which an bomber crew led by dana andrews is tried without due process and beheaded for bombing tokyo?
These Bush Gitmo rules would have less due process than that.
If McCain, Warner and Lindsey can stick together with the Dems, they can beat this purely political maneuver by Rove/Bush.
This is just another Bush effort to turn national security into politics. They have no shame.
OH–and sell Disney!
Redshift @ 18
the most depressing part for me is that half the American electorate doesn’t care that he’s shredded the Constitution and 230 years of law. They don’t care that he’s the acolyte of Josef Stalin.
Now they’re starting to put emphasis on it being “controversial,” to try to put it in he-said-she-said land and pretend that what “he said” isn’t knowingly false. It’s the creationism version of history — “teach the controversy.”
Morning folks,
Off to work, gnashing my teeth because I have to wait till this afternoon to send off another batch of emails. I spotlighted one of Jennifer Nix’s posts to ABC head honchos yesterday, not that they really care, obviously. And let me say what a great tool spotlight is. Thank you to the genius who thought that up.
I just got a great list of email addresses from Daily Kos - Big List of Action Contacts, so this afternoon, after contacting my local ABC affiliate, I’m going after Scholastic and Apple, then, Pixar and Disney shareholders.
I’ve already spoken with my son’s humanities teacher (7th grade; but I think I’ll formalize it in an email to the High School and Middle School administration and Social Studies Dept.
Taking action feels great, doesn’t it?
Okay, now to Preview what I just wrote, so I don’t send out anything cringe worthy, again.
Redshift @ 18
Plus, this transfer order is accompanied by some VERY scary legislation allowing Herr Bushcenfuerer to try these people with evidence the defense is not allowed to know about (so how do they rebut it?) and “evidence” obtained by torture
Plus
he is renewin his attempt to pass legislation to exempt his administration from the provisions of the WAR CRIMES ACT.
If that passes, change in houses of Congress won’t matter quite so much. it’s like juggling folks, gotta keep our eyes on more than one ball at a time.
This happened at the end of the 2002 election period, fastr than dems could respond to one bomb over here, two more were exploding over there.
We gotta be nimble folks
Someone needs to develop quick talking points for kids grades 9-12 against the Scholastic materials and the miniseries, and then let’s encourage our children to disseminate these talking points through their social networks (MySpace, IM, etc). Also, point them to http://openlettertoabc.blogspot.com/ .
This may be the best defense against the BushCo propaganda.
That’s exactly what my teenage son was doing last night by his own initiative (IM’ing friends to tell them about this) as I was explaining to him this farse. I kept telling him that he was not paying attention to me because he just kept typing into his IM and glancing at me once in a while as I was speaking. Finally he said to me: “Dad, stop it! I am listening and telling my friends about it at the same time”. And then he asked me for web sites where they can look this thing up. :-)
Let the network of networks do the job. Things spread like wildfire in these networks.
Mark B. in Austin TX @ 21
We did not. We must never forget that. We were taken over by an authoritarian cabal who were already bad guys. If America had truly taken an evil turn, they wouldn’t have had to lie endlessly to get the public to go along with these things. They took advantage of a moment of great shock and vulnerability to turn America away from our ideals, and we’re going to make them pay.
Howie Kurtz in the WaPo has an article up on this entitled “Clinton Administration Officials Assail ABC’s ‘The Path to 9/11′“. The discussion is pretty good, laying out who objects and why . . . but why isn’t the piece called “ABC’s ‘Path to 9-11′ Plays Fast and Loose with Reality”?
Nope, it’s gotta be about those picky Clinton folks, all worried about their legacy and everything.
Downtown on Union Square there is the big Disney store and the Apple flagship is a couple of blocks away. Pixar is just across the bay. I wonder if any local protests are underway.
I’m trying to follow up on this, but I just heard on NPR that Bill Clinton is objecting to the content of the gopumentary (although, of course, ABC won’t provide him with a copy). I’ll try to see if I can get more….
o/t
Still no response to my request several threads back & echoed by subsequent site visitors for a snail mail addresss in order to be able to contribute to the Wheeler book.
And then there’s David Broder, tsk tsking all over himself about how the media owes poor Karl Rove an apology for the mean things said about him masterminding a conspiracy to discredit Joe Wilson by outing Valerie Plame.
Last line of his piece: “And all of journalism needs to relearn the lesson: Can the conspiracy theories and stick to the facts.” That’s ironic, given the rather sparse presence of facts in what he wrote above those words.
Twisted Martini @ 11
Wow.
Wish we could bottle some of that.
Waccamaw @ 34
It doesn’t take very long to set up a P. O. Box for fdl. All we need is a volunteer that the hosts trust. Hope we can get this set up soon for folks to send in their checks.
well good night nurse!, really Firedogs, imagine where on the intellectual food chain you must reside to want to suck up to Hugh Hewitt . . .
Mark B. in Austin TX @
14
Someone else came up with the term “crock-u-drama” Either will do. It’s all a crock anyway.
Someone should send this to Rove apologist and Woodward BFF David Broder ….
http://www.chicagotribune.com/.....i-news-col
msnbc covering the mockumentary now.
http://www.nypost.com/
Roger Cressey is lambasting it too.
Josh Marshall noted last night (10:31 PM) that “we’re hearing that at least some program managers at local ABC affiliates around the country are planning to run rebuttal segments and/or panel with a mix of terrorism experts to add ‘balance’ or least deflect some criticism.”
It’s a step up from running a disclaimer and counting the complaints that come in, but still . . .
Scroll down further, and you’ll see @ 8:27PM that Josh also notes that ABC/Disney owns some local stations, but others are independent and thus have more choice in whether to show the piece or not. Helpful to know which camp your local station falls into before you Spotlight them - check out his two lists.
looseheadprop @ 28
Agreed. I think pre-emptive calls and faxes are in order to our less-than-insane Republican and cluster-bomb Democratic senators. No matter how they think they can spin this to make Democrats look weak, we have to make clear that we will make them look very bad if they vote for things like exempting people who were “just following orders” from war crimes.
Waccamaw at 34 — we’re working on something. It’s been an insanely busy week this week and we’re trying to get things moving on several fronts at the moment. Please be patient — as soon as we have something for you, we’ll post it, I promise.
Seconding Waccamaw’s request for a snailmail addy for contributions by check to FDL Books. Could it be that this WP/FDL software glitch is why the linked Visa site keeps refusing to recognize what I’m typing into several fields there?
Mack @
9
It would seem not. Think Progress is reporting that Scholastic is standing behind its materials. The web site is only temporarily down. As Atrios says,
Kean’s spawn Tommy Jr. is running for US Senate in NJ. How can we put him on the spot about this issue? Either way, I can’t see this helping him. First, maybe the low-information voter realizes they’re not voting for Senior. Second, he either has to defend or repudiate Daddy, neither of which is a desirable course of action for him.
OK, here’s a little something to cheer us up:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....hern_women
RevDeb @ 39
I came up with “propa-mentary,” but I’m not sure it flows quite as well.
KO was on a roll last night. Before the GOP-U-DRAMA segment, he showed a montage of Katherine Harris videos including the one where she posed like a pin-up model and tried to entice Sean Hannity. KO said in that piece that she showed “two pieces of her platform”. I nearly choked on my ziti it was that funny.
I never watch Hannity and Colmes but the one time I DID happen to catch them was when Katherine Harris was doing this interview. It was beyond bizarre. The boob play was so obvious. Marilyn Monroe she ain’t.
ThinkProgress has confirmed with Scholastic that the materials are temporarily down — but could not confirm whether changes are being made or anything beyond that, but that materials are still going to be provided to teachers regarding the film.
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/.....astic-911/
twistedmartini: thanks for the turk link. Great stuff there.
Redshift @ 48
Too egghead-y. NTTAWWT. From one egghead to another. BTW, did I see you posting under your real name at Joe’s place?
oh this is rich– the msnbc thing is very damning to ABC– tis a long segment ;)
I was a teacher once. It would not be hard to put young Americans on guard against propaganda. I would show its successes in another society. (We innoculate against smallpox with cowpox on the theory that, however small we are, we are not cows.) Then I would promote reflection on the methods. Finally, I’d give the kids a chance to take them home.
Here’s a rough curriculum:
1. Start by showing Leni Riefenstahl’s 1935 classic “Triumph of the Will.”
2. Hand out the quotes from Goebbels, Goehring and Hitler that we’ve all seen many times over and specifics from Goebbels on film (his most carefully crafted medium) and ask how the film embodies them.
3. Distribute Orwell’s “Politics and the English Language.” (I would play devil’s advocate: reject Newspeak’s theory that pruning a vocabulary suppresses thought — Hey, who needs words to think? — then ask to be proven wrong, but that’s a personal detail.)
4. Distribute Madison’s Federalist #10, which adopts the premise that pluralism is inevitable absent oppression and then proposes to deal with the matter through the Constitution.
5. Open the class to a discussion of these times, by which time their hair would be on fire. My experience with children is that they see things adults learn to clam up about.
Ronald Dworkin’s piece, “Three Questions for America,” in the current New York Review of Books, is on point. Its focus is creationism and intelligent design theory, but it contains a rationale for an immunizing plan of this sort. He ends this part of the essay as follows:
Material drawn from another culture would lessen the “political difficulties.” For reasons given it would also be more effective.
O/T
forgive me, but caught this over at Gilliard’s
This is one of the 2500 Marines subject to recall. There was an interview w/ him in his local paper - and of course battalions of 101st Fighting Keyboarders called him ‘traitor’, ‘coward’, etc
this link is his response. just this quote alone should make any one realize the depth of true American treasure we are wasting over there -(emphasis mine)
http://stevegilliard.blogspot......ndbox.html
boo yah indeed
OT:
I left this and a little more on the firemen sickness thread below…a link to purchase the WNYF (With New York Firemen)Magazine published 4 x’s a year. Great way to donate to the fire department.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/h.....fsubs.html
Everyone remember to keep “Disney” or “Disney/ABC” front and center, not just “ABC.”
Disney corporate may be willing to let “ABC” get nicked up, but the “Disney” brand and the revenue that goes with it are another matter entirely.
BREAKING: Bolton’s nomination removed from the agenda for the Foreign Relations Committee today.
Twisted Martini @
11
Wow. He’s awesome, but that can’t be good for him. His head exploded. He’s absolutely right, though. Our first amendmemt was drafted with guys like Tom Paine in mind and today we have Leni Reifenstahls offering up fantasy as fact. Shame on them. They deserve to be incarcerated for contempt–not legal contempt, but the contempt of the people–for their pathetic reporting on dead white girls and Tomkat’s baby while everything else is on fire.
consideration of bolton’s nomination by senate foreign relations committee has been REMOVED from today’s agenda!
wahoo!!!! no bolton drama today. is it too soon to hope that things are changing?
angie, perhaps the networks are starting to wake up to the fact that ABC/Disney is now fair game, and they can commence the battle to beat up their competitor.
christy - you type faster than i do! should have know you would be closely listening to cspan… thx.
Chimpy gonna flap his gums on da teevee in 19 minutes
Christy Hardin Smith @ 59
well that explains a lot :0
These slimers are betting against the Democrats winning a majority this November.
pete said is it too soon to hope that things are changing?
answer: yes-don’t order the balloons yet.
Great post this morning. Where would one classify this, semi-nonfiction or semi-fiction? I do believe our high school students are entitled to the truth as we all are. Why confuse the youth in our country.
Scholastic has the worst curriculum, starting in the elementary grades. The debate whether the media isa “hinder to our national security” that sure is a loaded ? since they are part of the media.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/7/83625/00494Mack @ 9
It appears that there is more work to be done with Scholastic. This is great information. If we can get messages to every major school district in the country, it looks like Scholastic could potentially back out of the partnership!
It’s too bad that this #$$@ could impact working people’s paychecks!
Please ask everyone to follow through with the school districts.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/9/7/83625/00494Mack @ 9
jayt @
36
what jayt says
Will those 51% of Americans who still believe that Saddam was involved in 911 need a lobotomy? And I’m with him that the press is the one responsible. Not Bush–presidents have always stretched the truth. It is up to the press to get the story out!
Nancy Wall @ 69
egregious — returned to the barn early last nite, but saw your comments this a.m. Thanks for linking the Hugh comments, and thanks again for the tutorial on how to do it. Appreciate it.
christy, joe cannon on cannonfire has taken a deep inquiry into this issue, with some investigation into the investment question, as well as a couple of suggestions of what we as citizens can do.
check it out:
www.cannonfire.blogspot.com
Apologies, Nancy, didn’t mean to put words in your mouth. Let me try this again.
Worse yet, it is a propagandistic question, feeding directly into Bush’s latest propaganda claim that OBL launched a media campaign to divide the American people from the government.
op99 @ 47
I was thinking the same thing - Kean Jr. needs to be asked about his dad’s participation in this mess, and ABC stations in the NJ area need to be asked about this angle as well. Don’t just spotlight the programming folks - get this in front of the news directors, and ask whether they’ve asked Kean Jr about it.
Thanks cbl at 6:55.
Have to agree – like 1,000% - with lhp, who cautions us all that we have to pay attention to everything, as the quick hits and sleight of hand and back-door wheeling and dealing go into overdrive now that we are less than 60 days to the mid-terms. This administration is taking no chances that it will have a reliably rubber-stamp Congress to work with in January, so it is pulling out all the stops now. Be vigilant. Or, for those like us who already are on hyper-alert, be more vigilant.
How can we be more vigilant? I think, in part, by continuing to look beyond whatever bright object is being dangled in front of us.
I am, frankly, much more concerned about the Bolton nomination, the push for Congress to legalize the kangaroo courts, and to make all the secret wiretapping legal than I am about a factually-challenged movie. Don’t get me wrong: the ABC peddling of disinformation pisses me off, mainly because there are a lot of people who won’t bother to question what is in that movie, but those same people are just as likely to have forgotten about it as soon as another white woman goes missing, Tom and Katie hit the talk show circuit with Suri or Paris Hilton hits the airwaves with her tearful story of being arrested for DWI.
I am heartened by the outpouring of criticism of the movie, but it should not distract from the other issues on the table. Those issues are being framed, as always, as tools necessary to fight terror and punish the terrorists – and those who object to the administration’s plans are, as always, being framed as not wanting to bring terrorists to justice or to protect America from that evil. We know that it’s about something bigger, something that seems to be bringing us ever-closer to the kind of totalitarianism that Bush tries to speechify about (he has trouble getting his mouth around the word, even if he doesn’t have trouble pushing us closer to the brink).
We write, we call, we fax, we e-mail – but are we any closer to successfully fighting this naked grab for more and more and more power? How do we get people to understand that there has to be a balance between security and freedom? How do we conquer the fear factor? And how do we do it without giving the GOP the ammunition they think they need to once again declare triumph and mandate on November 8th?
A week or so ago I posted several commentaries, to the point where I think I was beginning to annoy other FDL’ers. My point was that heading into the election one of the Democrats’ biggest talking points was to ask, “Where is Osama bin Laden?”
The reason I felt that way was because turning away from the chance to capture bin Laden in order to focus on Iraq was emblematic of the whole failure of the Bush to directly deal with the threat of terrorism in order to fulfull a regime change agenda the preceded even 9/11. This was and still is an achilles heel for Bush and the Dems have not exploited it. The Republicans knew this and Path to 9/11 is their preemptive attack on the Dems.
Now we have the Path to 9/11 thingy, and guess what? The Democrats are on the defensive whining about unfair treatment from ABC, regarding guess who — Osama bin Laden.
They could have been on the attack re OBL now they are on the defense.
Am I pissed off? Fuckin’ A.
Am I surprised at the Dem’s lack of imagination and spine? No.
Question: can anyone file a complaint with the FEC about this rather substantial corporate in-kind donation of public airtime to the Republicans right before the elections?? I went to the FEC site, and it needs to be in writing, notarized, 3 copies, mailed. Should it be from a Dem candidate to have standing?
I have already called/emailed Disney, ABC, local affiliate, Scholastic (twice), and the FCC. This pisses me off, especially since they are targeting kids!
If you subscribe to the Disney.com emagazine CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION and where they ask you why you no longer want to receive disney email ….tell them its because of path to 9/11
msnbc FRONT PAGE right now.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/
“Clinton officials rip ABC’s ‘The Path to 9/11’”
With Maddie Albright and a poll.
Christy - I sent u an email
hoosierville @ 83
Just voted, 59% think it is misleading the public…..
you’re welcome John Casper - seeing authentic Duty, Honor, Country on the screen at Gilliards had me bawlin’
can Bolton be recess-nominated more than once?
(There’s a certain freedom which comes from no longer much caring about showing my ignorance).
But this admin is seemingly just making so much stuff up as they go - So I don’t really feel that bad.
ABC and Disney assume they are safe in Bush-Lie-Land since the latter remains mostly unscathed with its fabrications. May it not be so for ABC and D.
Each of these issues is crucial. They have even more ramifications: the attempt to neuter the War Crimes Act ties in with the kangaroo courts (both would let Bush get away with having extracted info from detainees through torture).
What troubles me here long term is the Scholastic connection. That’s a new generation being molded. It will turn us all in for liberal rehab in our old age unless it is set straight.
Upthread at #55 I mention a piece by Ronald Dworkin that Scholastic ought to read and think about. Anyone who has their ear should put it under their nose. Before they try to get our kids to think straight they should think straight themselves. It seems they’re doing the very opposite (see #76).
All very interesting…
When I was a mere 12-13 years old in the late ’50s in Abilene, Texas, the John Birch Society (remember them?) produced a film which was circulated and shown in local schools. It claimed that the Communication Workers of America was a Communist front organization and pointed out how CWA members were potentially in a position to shut down the telephone networks in the event of a Communist takeover. I was very upset and told my parents about the CWA menace as soon as I got home.
Whether or not it’s relevant, I forgot all about this in a day or two.
Chimpy in Atlanta - the chimp looks like he’s feeling a little snappy this AM
speaking before the Georgia Public Policy Foundation
Of course I realize that there are many important issues that face this nation. However, given the fact that there are many 18 year olds in high school and that many schools do not make government classes a priority, this is a most worthy topic since those 18 years can vote.
Chimpy in Atlanta - 9/11, terra. I set forth a strategery for the terrists defeat.
my legislation will bring these people to justice.
today, a progress report on the steps we’ve taken to protect the murkin people.
Peterr @ 35
Since Broder prefers facts, I think I’ll send him some to think about, such as by spotlighting this to him:
http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/you-tell-me/
Others might offer their own contributions to the Education of David Broder.
Tell Scholastic you will NOT buy the last Harry Potter book, or anything else they print.
(those damn sneaky bastards)
CHD points out in the post: “Because they are NOT truth if they cannot be backed up by facts. Period.”
This is how it’s done. This is the same approach that the wingnuts attempted with the insertion of “Intelligent Design” into school curricula to supposedly balance the Theory of Evolution. And now we have the Theory of History. Let’s come up with another possibility to distract the gullible masses. Let’s foster doubt, everyone. Here’s the hook, where’s the line & sinker?
Balance does not mean a creative skewing of actual facts to mollify people who are wrong.
Phooey.
Chimpy in Atlanta - quoting general Oneray “dont get stuck on stupid” (oops, too late)
Nancy Wall @ 92
Sorry to be such a noodge, Nancy, but it would be good to have a look at Dworkin’s piece here. Sometimes timely ideas come from out of the blue for OT reasons.
chimpy–different tie (yellow today, blue yestidday and red the day before, iirc), new wiggling of eyebrows, same old spew with a little more fake texan throwed in and i believe he took some starbucks this morning, he is positively jumpy today– now recollecting the terrarist attack in Hotlanta 10 yrs ago and 9/11.
in his groove now.
Chimpy in Atlanta - the terrists we have tortured have told us lots of stuff.
..pursue our enemies and prevent attacks on the USA yadda yadda yadda
Chimpy in Atlanta - foiled a suicide plot to blow up pas-ss-en-ger planes.
America is safer b/c we have taken action to protect the homeland.
yellow tie? say no more….
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