John Bolton’s nomination to the post of US Ambassador to the UN was scheduled to be on the agenda for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee this morning. The hearing was to begin at 9:30 am ET. It did not start until well after that — closer to 10:00 am ET — and the Bolton portion of the hearing has been pulled from the agenda today.
I have a call in to Sen. Chris Dodd’s office to see why that is, and will report back here as soon as I have spoken to someone there — or heard from any number of the e-mails I have out to several other Senate offices on this. Sen. Dodd has been doing a fine job of leading the charge against the Bolton nomination, and I wanted to take a moment this morning to say my thanks to him — and also to Sen. Russ Feingold — for doing some fantastic work to keep the Democratic caucus together on this issue.
I watched the hearing live once it got underway, and I have to say that Sen. Lincoln Chafee looked like he was feeling rather queasy. He has a tough primary coming up, and I’ve been hearing that he was lobbying the committee chairman, Richard Lugar, to postpone the hearing on Bolton until after the primary. If I can get some answers on this and many other questions on Bolton, you’ll be the first to know today. We do live in interesting times…
UPDATE: Reuters picks up the story.
UPDATE #2: Just spoke with Sen. Dodd’s press secretary about the change in the schedule on the Bolton nomination in the Senate Foreign Relations Committee. Thus far, there is no rescheduling of the Bolton nomination hearing at all at this point. Sen. Lugar, the chair of the Committee, said today that it was concerns that he heard from a Republican on the committee that caused the delay — in other words, likely Chaffee had issues and his vote is key as to whether Bolton gets out of committee or not. (If you live in Rhode Island, call Sen. Chaffee’s office and voice your opposition to Bolton. It’s also possible that late objections surfaced from Chuck Hagel, but I think Chaffee is the likely pivot point. In fact, just call your Senators and voice your opposition to Bolton, period. You can do so via the Capitol switchboard at 888-355-3588.)
If you are stuck on talking points on why Bolton is so odious, take a page from Sen. Dodd’s floor speech earlier in the week against the Bolton nomination:
Mr. President, at this moment in history our nation faces enormous challenges – from terrorism, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Israel and the Occupied Territories, Sudan’s Darfur region, Iran, North Korea, Syria, HIV/AIDs, Climate Change, Energy Security. These are all important issues that call out for serious action and leadership from the United States.
America’s capacity to respond to this global clarion call has been seriously circumscribed by the Bush Administration’s preemptive war of choice in Iraq – circumscribed militarily, politically, economically. The options have become fewer since March 19, 2003 as the world has become more dangerous and the reputation and global standing of the United States weaker.
Our friends know this.
More importantly so do our adversaries.
That is why it is imperative that we make the most of the options still available to respond to these challenges. Diplomacy is one of the few options that remain available with a reasonable political and monetary price tag. And it is going to take effective and pragmatic diplomacy to build the kinds of international partnerships and coalitions to address the challenges that confront us so that American can feel and be safer and more secure.
While the United Nations isn’t the only forum for the conduct of that diplomacy, it is very clear that President Bush has placed much more reliance on the United Nations Security Council in his second term in office than he did in the first. Be it Iran, North Korea, Darfur, or Lebanon – the Administration has turned to the Security Council to respond to humanitarian crises and other threats to international peace and stability.
That’s why, more than at any other time since the founding of the United Nations, that it matters who sits in the United States Chair on the Council. And Mr. Bolton doesn’t fit the bill.
Based upon information developed by the Foreign Relations Committee last year from unprecedented Committee testimony by former Assistant Secretary of State Carl Ford, and more that 30 staff interviews of then current and former colleagues of Mr. Bolton, the Senate made the decision not to act on his nomination. Mr. Ford and twelve of those interviewed, were extremely critical of Mr. Bolton, including retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, Chief of Staff to Secretary Powell; Thomas Fingar, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research; Thomas Hubbard, former Ambassador to South Korea, John McLaughlin, former Deputy Director of the CIA, Stuart Cohen and Robert Hutchings, former acting head and head of the National Intelligence Council respectively; and Jamie Miscik, former Deputy Director for Intelligence at the CIA….
Mr. President, there have been some excellent US representatives to the United Nations over the years – Henry Cabot Lodge, Adlai Stevenson, Daniel Patrick Moynihan, Jeanne Kirkpatrick and Richard Holbrooke – to mention a few by name.
And each and every one of these individuals possessed a certain skill set – an ability to work with others, our adversaries as well as our friends—in order to stretch the UN as an institution in ways that supported United States interests. None of them were shrinking violets.
It is very clear that Mr. Bolton does not possess that skill set. Over the years, Mr. Bolton evidenced great skepticism and disdain for the United Nations and multilateral diplomacy generally.
Nothing he has said or done since assuming his current position in New York suggests he has altered his views on the United Nations or on multilateral diplomacy generally.
Once again it’s those who have worked most closely with him who are his biggest critics. More than thirty Ambassadors with whom Bolton serves at the United Nations – all supportive of UN reform – questioned his leadership abilities.
In a July 21, 2006 New York Times article one UN colleague characterized Mr. Bolton as “intransigent and maximalist”. Another suggested that Mr. Bolton’s, “high ambitions are cover-ups for less noble aims, and oriented not at improving the United Nations, but at belittling and weakening it.” A third has essentially written off working with Mr. Bolton, “He’s lost me as an ally now, and that’s what many other ambassadors who consider themselves friends of the US are saying.”…
Mr. Bolton clearly has an aversion to being diplomatic. He has even been called a bully by some of his harshest critics. Mr. Bolton’s personality isn’t really the issue as far as I am concerned. There are lots of bullies in this town and I suspect in New York as well. My objection isn’t that he is a bully, but that he’s been a very ineffective bully – he can’t win the day when it really counts.
He isolates the United States rather then builds a consensus around the US position.
Mr. Bolton showed his colors as soon as he arrived in New York after receiving his recess appointment last August 2005. After the US Mission had worked for months to negotiate a two year reform effort that was to be endorsed by President Bush and other heads of state two weeks later, Mr. Bolton almost destroyed the consensus around the document by tabling 705 separate amendments to the text. It took the involvement of the President and the Secretary of State to cobble the agreement back together at the last minute at a price of losing some of the provisions that the US had sought included with respect to management reforms.
The Bush administration has made the ongoing crisis in Darfur a key concern. Yet when in June of this year, members of the Security Council visited Sudan to send a signal to the Government of Khartoum, Mr. Bolton thought it more important to travel to London to deliver a UN bashing speech to a private think tank rather than join his colleagues on the visit.
On another occasion, prior to a vote last July on a UN Security Council Resolution intended to sanction North Korea for its provocative 4th July missile launches, Mr. Bolton publicly assured anyone who would listen that he could get support for a resolution with teeth – with so called Chapter 7 obligations. Turns out he couldn’t. The resolution adopted by the U.N Security Council fell short of that.
Last September, Mr. Bolton told the House International Relations Committee that the negotiation of an effective Human Rights Council was a key objective of the United States and that it was a “very high priority, and a personal priority of mine.”
There were thirty negotiating sessions held to hammer out the framework of this new Human Rights Council and Ambassador Bolton managed to attend one or two.
In the end the United States was one of four countries to vote against approval of the new UN Human Rights Council.
When the tally is taken on how effective Mr. Bolton has been at the UN, he gets a failing grade in my opinion.
All of these reasons are ample justification for voting against this nomination.
But there’s more.
There’s Mr. Bolton’s well documented attempts to manipulate intelligence to suit his world view and to seek the removal of at least two intelligence analysts who wouldn’t play ball. When these analysts refused to support intelligence conclusions not supported by available intelligence Mr. Bolton mounted a concerted effort to have them fired. The fact he didn’t success is irrelevant.
His behavior endangered our national security because it goes to the very heart of what we depend on to protect that security – unbiased and professional intelligence collection and analysis. Mr. Bolton stepped way over the line and committed an offense so grievous in my view that it warrants that this Senate deny him an up or down vote on the nomination.
In concluding, Mr. President, I would return to a point that I made earlier, namely that Mr. Bolton has largely burned his bridges with his colleagues in New York and isn’t likely to be an effective diplomat when diplomacy is increasingly becoming the coin of the realm in protecting and advancing US interests at this very unstable moment in history.
Fifty nine former US ambassadors and diplomats who have served in five administrations agree – yesterday they sent a letter to the Foreign Relations Committee in opposition to the nomination.
They recognized as I do that at this critical moment in our nation’s future, the President should put the nation’s interest first and nominate an individual with strong diplomatic skills who believes in diplomacy, rather than placating his conservative base by continuing to push for confirmation of an unsuitable nominee. I believe that it is time for the Senate to send that message loudly and clearly to the President by rejecting efforts to ramrod this nomination through in the closing days of the session.
I urge my colleagues to join me in stopping this nomination.
Strong words — much needed, in my opinion, because John Bolton is the wrong man for the job. Period.
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- Bolton, Clinton, North Korea: One of Those Good Problems
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Yes!
There is a poll up at MSNBC asking for your opinion about the ABC “Path to 9/11″ mocudrama.
Here’s a link:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14715386/
Keep pounding them into the ground!
If everyone could take a few minutes and send a thank you to Dodd and Feingold for their efforts on this, I would very much appreciate it. They really have been doing the heavy lifting and they deserve recognition for their work from all of us.
MA, NH, and RI folks in the Boston media area or whoever wants to pile on:
ABC is WCVB
http://www.thebostonchannel.com/index.html
the phone number is 781-449-0400
When I asked who to speak to re the propaganda movie, the receptionist said, “That is an ABC program” and I said, but you are not owned by ABC, you are owned by Hearst. She put me through to the program manager, Elizabeth Chang. Got the voice mail and left a message.
Don’t expect a call back, but we ought to flood their phones. Tell people not to fall for the “it’s ABC’s fault” line.
Was going to post this below, but figured we’s all be moving here…
I don’t disagree that our children should be protected from this kind of blatant propaganda, and pressure should be brought to bear on making certain that the Scholastic materials never make it into public-school classrooms.
This issue makes me wonder about the textbooks our kids are using, too.
All of the decisions that are being made today have long-term effects. I no more want our kids being indoctrinated via the public schools than I want those same children’s constitutionally protected rights and privileges whittled away in the Congress and the Supreme Court.
At least for now, we, as parents, have the ability to counter whatever our kids are reading and being taught in schools – there will be nothing we can do if the government takes away our basic rights and protections.
Could someone have put a hold on it?
Anne at 7 — I’m hearing a rumor that something is up, but no one can confirm it for me just yet. I’ll let everyone know the facts as soon as I can confirm them with a second source. I’ve got several calls out at this point.
The Chafee primary sounds like a likely maneuver, that or the fact that they just don’t have the votes and don’t want to be embarrassed. There would surely be some more great testimony against him.
Thanks for the MSNBC link xyz
Do you feel ABC is misleading the public though its dramatization of Sept. 11 in “The Path to 9/11″?
Yes
58%
No
27%
I’ll decide after watching the movie
15%
* 12840 responses
Only slightly OT — call for help: (EPU’ed last thread):
I have a very serious question and I need your help:
If you could ask Bob Mueller, head of the FBI, one serious question, what would it be? I might have a chance to do that in the next few days….
Gotta go. HIgh speed being installed in my “work” house on the Cape.
Later . . . . be good and save the country.
I think this is more a case of the Republicans not wanting to give the democrats a big stage to hit back against Bush’s speechifying, especially since Bush is speaking right now.
Bush certainly doesn’t want those democrats asking any pointed questions right now. Not of him – that’s why he’s giving speeches to friendly audiences, not doing press conferences – and not of Bolton either.
The FRC is going by the Rove playbook here: Don’t step on the message.
*xyz @
2
Wow, look at that…there’s our faithful 27% voting No on that poll…looks like the authoritarian cultist percentage has hit its fact-impervious floor.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 8
sounds exciting!
RevDeb @ 12
Isn’t that redundant?
RevDeb @ 5
Go, RevDeb!
And call apple and the curriculum director of your kids’ school district.
Re Bolton,
email your Senator about this guy. I’ve actually gotten two letters back from Sen. Murkowski on Bolton’s dismal job performance, but she’s probably been
broughtbought 100% into his camp – she voted for use of cluster munitions on babies and kids the other day.*xyz @ 2
Just followed the link – top of the page has “Breaking News: Blair Will Resign as Prime Minister Within a Year.”
Reposted from prior thread:
Here’s something else that might be put on hold, according to this Raw Story headline:
GOP, Dem Sens urge hold on wiretap bill: Developing…
imm, jmo, “does he realize the massive damage he is doing to all Americans of Middle Eastern descent, who we desperately need in the WOT, by domestically implementing Bush’s thoroughly un-American policies?”
The GOP is rotten at the core and now coming apart at the seams. It is important to keep the pressure up on this administration. They just lost the war in Afghanistan, and cannot be allowed to substitute testerone-fueled bluster for a real program to protect the US. Not only does Bolton have to go, but those who supported him have to have bits of his carcass hung around their necks throughout the upcoming campaign. If Chaffee cannot be counted on to stand up to such an asshole move by his party on the eve of a primary, then he needs to pay the price.
When the President of the United States gets up in front of the nation and says that we did practice rendition and we did use “alternative” interrogation methods – TORTURE – and he says this with an obvious wink and a nod and a sneer, and he says we got results and pictures and we’re now alot safer so we want to keep it up and we’re going to require you to change everything that this country was founded on so we can keep up our fake progress on our fake wars, ad infinitim – we are in some very serious deep shit people. They are going into overdrive with the images and the language and the innuendo and the lies and the smears and we are getting slammed hard because they absolutely must stay in power to pull this off. They’re going after all of it and it’s going to come at us fast and furious. Everything is calculated. Just look at this Bolton pullback this morning. Big headfake going on. We need to keep our eye on all of it. It will get thick and ugly. They know they’ve committed war crimes and they are figuring out if they say it publicly and wrap the flag around it and tag it to 9/11, they will have a fighting chance. Will America fall for another round of smoke and mirrors? No one is safe – Fitz will be hit hard. Our children, too. We have a ton of work to do.
Rollcall on Feinstein Amdt. No. 4882 : To protect civilian lives from unexploded cluster munitions. September 6.
immanentize @ 11
Holy Cow! Only one? Okay – putting on thinking cap, and will let you know what question I would want answered..
URGENT!!!!
Just got off the phone with Ms. Kyle Good, VP of Corporate Communications at Scholastic. They have pulled the material and are meeting shortly to discuss what to do. They know there are many materials already out there and are discussing what to do or how to deal with it.
Please call their offices right now (10:55 AM – Eastern Time).
Contact Us
For comments or questions concerning Scholastic products or services, please contact:
Investor Relations
212-343-6741
Corporate Communications
(Kyle Good’s office)
212-343-4563
meta –
I would ask Mueller when the FBI is going to step in and arrest Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, etc. and keep them locked up until the Hague is ready for them. And if they aren’t thinking about arresting them, why not? They are clearly out of control and insane. Yesterday’s Chimp speech telling Congress to legalize his lawbreaking proves that.
Seriously.
If Rove has the power to get committees to not “step on the message”, then Congress should just adjourn until after the election in November. They don’t do anything anyway. And America would be better off if they all went on an extended hiatus until the Dems take over (hopefully).
FS – Thank you!
EPU’d –
Clinton let Osama Bin Laden get away?
Fiction — they were never close to surrounding him.
Bush ignored warnings of an Al Qaeda attack, and let Osama Bin Laden escape from Tora Bora when he was surrounded?
Fact — George Tenet personally gave GWB more than 50 warnings of the Al Qaeda attacks in the summer of 2001. These were the ‘hair on fire’ warnings that Richard Clarke reported.
Osama Bin Laden and the entire Al Qaeda leadership were surrounded in Tora Bora, and at the point of despair.
Inexplicably, George W Bush refused to send in American troops from the 10th Mountain Division, and relied on the tribal warlords instead.
In addition, Bush allowed Osama to be evacuated by heliocopter while American soldiers watched.
FS @ 25
FS, great catch.
I hope they will issue a Press Release.
Emptywheel is kicking Broder as he tries to crawl away. So cool!
A bit lighter note – I think we need a laugh this morning – Today’s Fortune Cookie:
DOS Air:
All the passengers go out onto the runway, grab hold of the plane, push it until it gets in the air, hop on, jump off when it hits the ground again. Then they grab the plane again, push it back into the air, hop on, et cetera.
And back in the Real World, over at Talk Left, there’s a post on Shrub’s statements about the secret prisons and torture, wherein the poster (probably Jeralyn) says that Binalshibh and some of the other ‘bad guys’ are likely not to be seen again, because the stuff that’s been done has made vegetables of them. I would not be surprised to find out this is truth.
Kurt, you rock.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 4
Done.
Kurt says
September 7th, 2006 at 7:47 am*
Wow, look at that…there’s our faithful 27% voting No on that poll…looks like the authoritarian cultist percentage has hit its fact-impervious floor.
No point really – I just like to compliment good writing….
F-ing fantastic, FS. Such good news.
content.scholastic.com/browse/lessonplan.jsp?id=415
No Results found. Mwahahaha! *snoopy dance*
sorry, OT:
from a poster @ TP,
URGENT!!!!
Just got off the phone with Ms. Kyle Good, VP of Corporate Communications at Scholastic. They have pulled the material and are meeting shortly to discuss what to do. They know there are many materials already out there and are discussing what to do or how to deal with it.
Please call their offices right now (10:55 AM – Eastern Time).
Contact Us
For comments or questions concerning Scholastic products or services, please contact:
Investor Relations
212-343-6741
Corporate Communications
(Kyle Good’s office)
212-343-4563
Ran across this gem from a recent inaugural address:
The current occupant of the White House no doubt disagrees. Geneva Convention? Quaint. Rendition, secret prisons, wiretaps . . . “no,” says Bush, “we don’t do those things” unless of course we do – and I’ll tell you about it when it serves my political purposes. Goodwill begets goodwill? “Hogwash” replies Dubya.
He keeps saying “justice,” but I do not think that word means what he thinks it means.
(The word I think he’s looking for is “vengance.”)
Oh, and that inaugural address? It was delivered by George Herbert Walker Bush. But then I suppose Dubya’s always had trouble listening to his daddy.
Fresh update on msnbc poll at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14715386
Don’t forget this from John Bolton:
Here’s a picture to go with that quote:
John Bolton’s United Nations
Yes, be sure to heed Christy’s call to thank Dodd and Feingold — give them all the carrots they deserve.
Don’t forget to send a reminder to your own Senators that you do not approve of Bolton, whose performance as an appointed temporary UN Ambassador has proven his unsuitability for the role. Find your Senator’s phone and fax # at http://www.congress.org — or use the toll-free Senate central switchboard numbers 888-355-3588 or 888-818-6641.
OT — re: the ABC propaganda-crock-u-drama, as communicated from a campaign manager in my congressional district:
Centralized media — the theocracy owns your media even where you think you are free of them.
Action item: ask your local candidates to seriously consider finding alternatives to ad buys on ABC-owned and operated stations, use the cable provider to find alternatives instead, like buying crawl on Weather Channel or Spanish-language spots on Univision or Telemundo or targeting BET instead.
And make sure the campaigns tell the ABC-O&O exactly why they are yanking their ad buys.
This is something I need to ask the aforementioned campaign manager to do.
Poodles Blair is getting kicked to the curb this morning. Those Brits do have their wits about them. And Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin puts it to Bush as well:
http://www.rawstory.com/showar….._france_dc
Villepin lived in America and travelled to every state to understand the American people. He loves this country, and wrote a book about it.
O/T but BREAKING!
Lieberman Blog Cites Internal Push-Poll TWO HOURS AFTER Polling Co. CEO Pleads Guilty to Fraud!
LOLOL. I couldn’t make this stuff up if I tried! Night all!
FS @ 25
Just saw this at dKos:
But it’s clear to me that we need to keep it up.
My cousin says that the best way to force Scholastic to withdraw from the ABC partnership is to contact school districts, especially big public districts in major cities, promising to oppose all Scholastic textbook purchases for years if the company does not agree to pull out of the ABC deal immediately, and to tell Scholastic what we are doing during this process.
Diary here.
chimpy in Atlanta – “war ton terror is just in it’s opening stages”
OT: I don’t know if this has been mentioned yet, but this is good for another laugh:
Pollster Pleads Guilty to Fraud
New email (and TV commercial) from the Lamont campaign:
Dear Michael,
What about President Bush and Senator Lieberman’s leadership has proven their judgement to be worth one more life in Iraq?
How have they made us safer? What have they been right about so far?
When is a Senator’s desperate attempt to cling to political power worth aligning himself with “Swift Boat Veteran” allies and pre-war partisan propaganda peddlers?
These are questions that demand answers.
Watch our new television ad and sign the letter asking Senator Lieberman to denounce his newest shadowy Republican ally’s television ads.
http://www.nedlamont.com/atwhatcost
I say shadowy because “Veterans for Truth” are one of those mysterious 527 organizations shielded from disclosing individuals funding their effort.
All we know about them is that pro-war propagandists like William Kristol and Dan Senor drive their public relation efforts. That’s the same Senor and Kristol instrumental in packaging and selling a war based on lies and half-truths.
“Packaging and selling” … quite appropriate when you consider Senator Lieberman recently voiced his only pre-war criticism of the Bush Adminstration: they “oversold the WMD part of the argument.”
Justification for war as a sales pitch? Shameful.
Watch the video and sign the letter.
http://www.nedlamont.com/atwhatcost
“Support the mistakes made by the Bush Administration and Joe Lieberman or you hate the troops.”
Aren’t you sick and tired of Dick Cheney and Senator Lieberman hiding behind the American flag when called defend the current course in Iraq?
It’s disgusting, and it comes at the expense of reasonable political discourse about the issues that matter most to the people of Connecticut.
Yesterday, a dozen veterans signed a letter calling on Senator Lieberman to denounce his brand of guttoral politics. Can we count on you to watch our new ad and do the same?
http://www.nedlamont.com/atwhatcost
Ned Lamont believes the war in Iraq has been a distraction from an effective war on terror, and that the US should fully implement the 9/11 Commission recommendations. He believes its high time for an immediate withdrawal of US troops from the front lines, allowing the Iraqi people to stand up and take control of their country and removing the US face from the occupation.
And so do we,
Tom Swan
Campaign Manager, Ned Lamont for US Senate
Mark @ News Corpse @ 39
The United States Delegation would be vastly improved if it lost John Bolton.
OT but inneresting:
Polling Company Owner Pleads Guilty to Fraud
God, Rayne, that McDonald’s story is freaking me out. It’s completely 1984/Big Brother. This is creepier by the minute.
chimpy in Atlanta – Speech ends the same as it did yesterday: “And we’re fighting for a peaceful (peeance freeance I am assuming) future for our children and our grandchildren.”
meta @ 49
Amen, meta. That kinda sh*t needs to be stopped. There ought to be grounds for a lawsuit or something – limiting access to public airwaves? I dunno, IANAL, but damn, that’s disgusting.
Redshift and Kurt…
It gets even better. The Lieberman blog cited that poll less than two hours after that story broke about that polling company. They’re being destroyed in their comments section now. I give it an hour or two tops before they pull the post from the blog. lol
HoJo Blog Post
Ted Stevens is screeching on the floor of the Senate at the moment on C-Span2. It’s a coot-off moment.
Imm–re Bob Mueller, how about something like…in June of 2003 Valerie Plame was outed to the world by Novak. Not until the end of the year did Ashcroft cease his dithering and remove himself from investigating this case. What was the FBI doing about this during the interim, and under whose orders?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
LOL “the world can tell i’m close to losing my famous temper”
but, but, Stevens is under lots of pressure, Redd!
http://www.tpmmuckraker.com/
Another quote from the dKos diary on Scholastic (see my comment at 8:07):
Just like contacting the ABC affiliates’ advertisers, the strongest pressure is financial. So when you call or email Scholastic, be sure to let them know you’re urging the school districts to boycott Scholastic products.
The Nefarious Leslie @
44
Diary here.
Sounds like a great idea. “Big public districts in major cities,” does not sound like a GOP stronghold.
Anyone know a member of the NEA, the teacher’s union; that’s another way to go.
youtoob – coot-off
jayt @ 35
Thanks :)
I’m at my best in the morning, with coffee in me…but it’s all downhill from there hehe.
meta @ 50
One wonders if we shouldn’t be more afraid of “corporatism” than of fascism…
TPM – Dem Still Holding Pork Database Bill
Just off the phone with scholastic communications people. told them that what they have done by requesting teachers to download pdfs on school computers and have those untrue national political campaign materials copied on school copy machines and distributed to students is illegal. scholastic is in violation of federal statutes re distribution of electioneering materials under false guise. they have engaged educators and schools in violation of federal law, have asked teachers to violate both their employment contracts and union bylaws, and have gotten schools unwittingly into the same shakey legal territory.
Call your kids’ high school and school district curriculum chief to register that same complaint.
then call apple customer relations at 408-974-2042.
Wow! When the chickens come home to roost, the s#*! really hits the fan. First there’s the Big Dog saying pull the GOP-U-Drama, then the Bolton nomination is postponed and now Lieberman’s pollster has been fixing the numbers. There has got to be more. Shoes are dropping everywhere this week from Plame to Disney. The train has gone off the track. How many metaphors can I mix in one post?
opp99, from last thread:
Yep, that was me. That was before the threads got really funny. I couldn’t resist, but I kept it very civil.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
Coot Off! Apply directly to your Old Coot!
meta, Nefarious Leslie — I’m going to ask about the nature of the FAUX feed into McD’s; if it’s a cable feed, we don’t have a leg to stand on save for boycotting McD’s.
Broadcast is a different story, though; on that you are entirely correct that we should not be subjected to corporate dictums on publicly-owned resources.
I’m already boycotting McD’s; my 8-year-old actually wanted me to avoid buying food there after watching “SuperSize Me”. The scene where Morgan Spurlock vomits completely did my son in, gave up his chicken nugget and fry fetish cold-turkey from that point on.
41 Rayne says:
September 7th, 2006 at 8:06 am *
The comment about ABC and not buying air time for a Democrat candidate is interesting. Our local ABC station airs Nussel campaign commercials at least once an hour in the morning show (5-7am) for several weeks now. I’ve only heard a couple for Culver over the same time frame. If Culver doesn’t do more… he may loose.
Christy Hardin Smith @
4
Just got through to the Feingold office in Washington, what a lovely woman who took my call.
I asked, just briefly about the Bolton hearing, and she thought that the committee was working on FISA and some other issues. Rather than make her work harder I just let her know that Sen Feingold is greatly appreciated, even as far away as NH.
meta @ 50
I don’t remember seeing a TV in my local Mickey D’s. But I go in to eat, not to watch the toob. (Better yet, I’ll go to my local In-n-Out for my
fat and sodium doseburger and fries.)Ed*ard Teller @
64
Damn, ET!!!!!! Stunningly brilliant tactic. So happy you’re on our side.
Last time I looked at the Bolton vote numbers, he was going to pass with one vote…this included a YES from Hillary and Schumer.
Any word on if they have changed their minds, anyone in NY know? And if you live in NY, I’d again recommend that you send them both a link to Bolton “interviewing” Pammy hehe…if that doesn’t change their minds on how to vote, nothing will.
Hey, imm – if you’re still here – here’s my question for Mueller (which I wrote as if you were asking it, as I am not a lawyer):
He probably won’t answer it, but maybe he will get a glimpse at what concerns a lot of us…
beard5 at 69 — the Senate Judiciary Committee is working on FISA issues today, so she was probably just confused on Committee agendas. Feingold has been doing some fantastic work on the FISA issue as well, so appreciate on both counts is both appropriate and welcome, I’m sure. :)
See this fact sheet for some info. from Feingold on this issue.
Anne — corporatism is a component of fascism. You can see how perilously close if not already over the edge we are by reading Dr. Lawrence Britt’s Fourteen Points to Fascism. Listed here:
1. Powerful and continuing expressions of nationalism.
2. Disdain for the importance of human rights.
3. Identification of enemies/scapegoats as a unifying cause.
4. The supremacy of the military/avid militarism.
5. Rampant sexism.
6. A controlled mass media.
7. Obsession with national security.
8. Religion and ruling elite tied together.
9. Power of corporations protected
10. Power of labor suppressed or eliminated.
11. Disdain and suppression of intellectuals and the arts.
12. Obsession with crime and punishment.
13. Rampant cronyism and corruption.
14. Fraudulent elections.
You can read Britt’s full commentary for yourself on these points at this link:
http://www.secularhumanism.org…..t_23_2.htm
Scary sh*t, innit? This is the quibble I have with the ever-so wonderful David Neiwert; he labels it “pseudo-fascism” in his excellent 6-part series on the same. But I believe we are already there.
I have wondered where the US ranks with other countries for a free press. Different groups list the US 16th or worse as of 2005 from just a quick search. I am surprised that people are just shocked when I mention this considering almost everyone right or left complains about our so-called news media.
It’s a step in the right direction that msnbc is covering politics more but I was pretty amused yesterday, just in case their audience wasn’t noticing, when msnbc had their thumping themselves on the back roundup of newscasters & political news covered during the day. Like covering politcs more than Jon Benet is groundbreaking & innovative.
Very odd that the one time I planned to listen to msnbc during the day because I knew they were going to do more politics that XM Radio no longer has msnbc in their lineup. And did I read correctly that XM is airing the gopudrama?
Anne @ 61
And the difference is …?
portia.vz @ 65
unfortunately, our side needs to keep getting those shoes to drop at that high rate just to keep up with the right’s constant, unremitting agitprop.
Damn, missed Stevens’ most recent senior moment!
The Nefarious Leslie @ 78
Hmmm, I heard some compare Mussolini’s style of governing to the Republicans/BushCo style of governing.
Ed*ard Teller — YOU ROCK!!!!
That’s EXACTLY what I’m going to fax to the curriculum director and the administrator for my school district!
Add one more bit: the drama as it stands now, without changes to revise that which is pointed and factually incorrect as pointed out by Albright, Clinton and Clarke, may be defamatory and libelous. No school system should be purveying to our youth any materials that are in contention and possibly libelous.
Now off to draft my fax!!!
Steve Clemons – The Washington Note
Steve has always been very outspoken about his distaste for Bolton and has post up today – “John Bolton Vote Today”
http://www.thewashingtonnote.c…..8.php#more
Kurt @
26
Whooo Hoooo – stop my pounding heart!
I really think that this film is the opening shot of the fall camaign and its all very well coordinated. Maybe I am wearing a tin foil hat but check out the below from ABC’s The Note (their political newsletter. Notice that this new campaign they refer to goes national right after the Disney film airs and focuses on the Cole bombing and the first World Trade Center bombing – both strong elements in the Disney film and pivotal in their efforts to tell the country dems are weak and untrustworthy on terror. I think this film is the beginning of the swift boating of all dems for this fall and is simply the first of a very well planned campaign.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..?id=156238
From the Note:
The conservative organization “Progress for America” is slated to have a 1:00 pm ET press conference to announce a TV ad buy, Internet campaign, and other grassroots activity reminding Americans about “the reason for the War on Terror.” This comes in the wake of President Bush making major speeches on the topic this week. It should be Noted that PFA has recruited the father of Flight 93’s Todd Beamer, David Beamer, as its spokesman for this announcement. The ad — the full script has not yet been released — is entitled, “They Want To Kill Us.”
The ad is expected to address the War on Terror, 9/11, the USS Cole, and the first World Trade Center bombing among other things and is expected to start in one state today on broadcast television plus national cable, Internet, and quite a bit of direct mail. Expect the ad to run for a week to ten days before PFA starts rotating in the next spot. Note to broadcast network executive producers: just TRY to resist using this as an element tonight. Note to cable producers: you are going to use it, no matter what we write.
FS @ 25
good work! we should alert the wire service reporters to such.
it would be nice to get the headline: “Scholastic severs ties with ABC Docu-drama”
ironranger @ 8:34
Well CNN has finally ended their 3 day “Steve Irwin is still dead” headline marathon. Unfortunately the new headline is about a serial killer. Nope, the President admitting to violating the Geneva Convention isn’t more newsworthy! Nope, Disney illegally donating a few hundred million to the GOP before an election via the “gopudrama” isn’t newsworthy. But boy those dead people and sexual assualts sure are!
actually, Christy could probably tear my legal argument re fed electioneering statute violations to shreds, but maybe not. but copying and distribution of the false materials IS a violation of most teacher contracts and of both AFT and NEA electioneering on school grounds bylaws.
Re multitasking and the October surprise,
I no longer think they can use avian flu as the surprise. They would have had to have more phony media articles trying to get people scared already. You know, the fake ‘avian flu found in Florida’ [which is not the fatal kind] and ’scientists suspect human-to-human transmission in Asia’ and ‘local governments have avian flu terror practice drills’ kind of bull****. Oh and ‘what you can do to keep your family safe from avian flu.’
I think they are going to “kill” OSL, no proof of course since the body
was destroyed oops ’scuse mewill be destroyed in the bombing gosh darn the luck. Or maybe their scientists will show a DNA match. Sure. They will use this to prove they are the security guys.We ARE seeing all terra all the time on the CM, so it fits the current propaganda theme. Fwiw I don’t believe this will turn back the Democratic tsunami.
Ed*ard Teller – Bravo, what an insightful and inspired approach.
Just a reminder of who John Bolton is and what his flock is, following up on the earlier Project for the New American Century (PNAC) thread: he was part of the PNAC Iraq Project, along with our friends Bill Kristol, Gary Schmitt, and former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz. Like Bolton, Wolfowitz’ contributions to PNAC are all in the period leading up to 2000, and are all about Iraq.
If anyone can swing the Senators from New York, this is a good time to do it.
Rayne and Nefarious Leslie – I see corporatism as part and parcel of fascism, for sure, but I think the increasing use of it/rise of it for propagandizing is so much less threatening to the average person, who still sees all of it as good old-fashioned Amerocan capitalism…I mean, what did Bush tell us all to do after 9/11? Go shopping, something we do very, very well.
It’s these insider deals that creep me out – the silent, behind-the-veil deals that people aren’t paying attention to, and which can occur so easily because corporations have broad ownership of rafts of companies and leverage and position them to grow the parent companies to enormous size. It’s about money, yes, but it’s increasingly about control.
Any way you look at it, whatever you want to call it, it’s insidious and dangerous and it’s going to ensnare millions without their even knowing it.
egregious @ 88
it actually might help. to be saturated with what you’re already sick of is not the way to win votes.
there’s an eagle on my deck, staring at the drying burdock root. She’s wondering “what the heck is this stuff?”
my two cats are sitting next to me (inside) with very, very wide eyes. She’s a big, healthy looking bird.
Ed*ard Teller — Perhaps Christy could pick apart your argument, but as a parent I’m under different guidelines, and I can point to these two facts:
– NO advance copies were provided to any liberal, progressive, Democratic bloggers or media outlets, making this a pointedly partisan promotion or campaign;
– Those most injured (besides my kids’ young minds) by the factually incorrect content are liberals, progressives, and Democratic Party members.
They had to show this NOW, not just because of the 9/11 anniversary, but to show it any closer to the election would be obvious electioneering.
…Iraq is not really a vital part of the war in terror and Iraq has been mismanaged. And if you‘re trying to link the two together, well, then you‘re mismanaging the war on terror as well. – RON REAGAN
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14716686/
Bingo!
Burdock root is said to be quite nutritional.
Ed*ard Teller @ 93
D’s are looking pretty strong today w/regard to security – i.e. the push to stay after Osama Bin Laden in an amendment to the 2007 defense budget.
Now while I might quibble with the identification of OBL as the mastermind of the 9-11 attack, the fact remains that 99% of the general public accepts it as a given fact. And I thought that it was well pointed out that amount requested is only one day’s worth of the cost of the continuing fiasco in Iraq.
Did I just see the beginning of of Democratic ‘We’re the party of Strong Defense’ peek its head out of the ground?
OfT – damn yellow ties….
Much to my surprise, the Orlando ABC station (WFTV) did finally email me the name of its ultimate programming
decidererdecision-maker. His news director heard from me yesterday, and now he has too, as follows:Ed*ard Teller @ 92
Those cats – are their names “George” and “Dick”?
ET–Thanks for the talking point, will use…
(OT…I’d be happy to reimburse you for shipping a small box of your iris rhizomes to me–I’d love to have something of “you” growing in my “friends” garden here. Sorry, I’m not interested in all 7,000. LOL And if this is inconvenient, not a problem.)
Rayne @ 94
I think we’re already inside the “too close to a federal election” window.
I wonder if this propaganda distribution to influence a federal election also violates provisions of NCLB? That would be choice, eh….?
Ed*ard Teller @ 92
Feline hors d’ oeuvres . . .
Peterr @ 99
Mooch and Powder. Hopefully, the American eagle will devour George and Dick, though.
Tired of businesses discriminating against Democrats and progressives? Vote with your pocketbook. If McDonald’s wants to put Fox News in all their restaurants, fine – stop patronizing McDonald’s. And be sure to let them know WHY you’ll no longer be their customer. Hit them where it hurts – in the wallet. If enough people hit them hard enough, they’ll give in.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 53
I don’t have the tee vee on at the moment, but the idea of sceeching toobz is such a great graphic.
Christy –
Thanks for updating to include Chris Dodd’s speech!
Love his conclusion:
I don’t know how persuasive this would be with Bush – given a choice between pushing for diplomacy or placating his base, you know where Bush goes every time. But I think it may have hit a nerve with at least one or two of Dodd’s colleagues from across the aisle! A letter from 59 ambassadors from five administrations is probably like a 2×4 to the head of a donkey. Or an elephant.
Hit F5 to reload the whole page, and check the whole thing out.
thinkprogress: FBI Agent Who Consulted On Path to 9/11 Quit Halfway Through ‘Because They Were Making Things Up’
lina @ 85
Just got off the phone with a staffer in Kyle Good’s office (he has been there three years) who reported she is still in the meeting you reference and reported that office was caught completely “off guard” and have been “innudated” with media and citizen calls, emails and faxes. I asked him if he could characterize the kind of calls they are fielding and he said “from soup to nuts” – including local school board members – assumed I was a teacher or teacher union representative – and promised someone in the office would reply to my questions and took my number.
egregious @ 88
Bird flu has been quite a serious threat in Asia for what seems like a long time. But as a rational U.S. citizen, I expect our gov to handle it about as well as Katrina.
OT
Spiderpaws? CSpan has HR503 now being put up – Horse “management” legislation…
Aren’t they supposed to be on the ball?
I called scholastic customer service…rang forever but got a person who listened to my reasoned rant and was going to the supervisor immediately after talking with me. She told me she had two teenagers and did not want them to be influenced by this propaganda. I am having a great time with spotlight… three emails to local ABC affiliates and letters to the editor. I feel so empowered. Let’s give em hell!
newtonusr @ 110
the guy in the background is paying more attention to his blackberry than to Rep. Jan Schakowsky
post is updated above gang — just FYI
So McDonald’s has gone gooper? Great. At least that provides the president with employment opportunities after his gig of screwing up the country is over- Ronald McClusterfuck!
Anyone can still obtain a Scholastic 9/11 ABC “Instruction” sheet including pdf’s through google cache.
Home fucking run.
To quote Jon Stewart, “Nicely said, Senator, nicely said.”
Joking aside, Dodd’s statement is based on verifiable fact; it’s not HIS opinion of Bolton.
C’mon Dems, hang tough.
stop me before I invade Belgium and Luxemburg!
http://www.BlogOfJoe.com (the official name of Joe’s Blog — not to be confused with http://www.BlogJoe2006.com or http://www.Joe2006Blog.com )
http://www.LiebermanForLieberman.com
I’m sorry to be so dense – but is it possible that Bolton might be put back in via another recess appointment?
mc at 117 — Dodd’s office tells me that if Bolton gets through committee, he plans on leading a filibuster of the nomination. He is that serious about Bolton being the wrong man for the job. He and Feingold have been doing fantastic work in pushing teh Democratic caucus on this and ought to be commended by all of us for it.
Rayne, 76:
This list of attribute of a fascist state is excellent. I will print it and give it to my sone for him to absorb and remember.
However, I would add one that is distinct from the 14 given, and I think it is of major importance.
15. Manipulation of the nation’s treasury and currency for political goals.
rwcole @ 115
It doesn’t natter whether or not they’ve come out as Fox/GOP sluts. They are already EVIL for helping turn a generation of Americans into obese, helpless diabetics!
off to work…call apple!
Correction: “list of attributes
(Edit function not working for me.)
jayt at 119 — I don’t think you can do a back-toback recess appointment for the same office. Once you have received one, there must be a vote in the Senate to continue, so I think it’s either a vote or he’s done. But I’m not positive on that — if anyone has worked on the Hill or knows for sure what the regs are, I’d appreciate it if you could chime in on this one.
jayt
Recess appointments are good through the term of the existing congress, as I understand it- so in January- Bolton is out. Of Course GW Clusterfuck could wait until the NEXT recess- I suppose- after the new congress is sworn in.
It is interesting as to why the vote was delayed- could it be that the goopers don’t have the votes? If they wait on Bolton until after January- they risk the possibility that they will no longer control the senate. Of course they can always wait until the rump session AFTER the election and put Bolton in with all their other dirty work. At that point the goopers who lose will have nothing ELSE to lose by voting for Bolton.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 120
Emailed my thanks to Dodd and Feingold — and I want to add my thanks TO YOU, Christy, for keeping us in touch, informed, and involved on this. So much this morning: Bolton, Scholastic, ABC, horses — I love seeing our FDL community energized, active, and engaged.
Only 23 days until the October surprise clock starts ticking!
ET –
It seems the earthquake of the FBI raid on Alaskan state legislators’ offices is having aftershocks down here in CA – specifically in the 50th Congressional District, where Dem Jerry McNerney is running against GOPer wingnut Richard Pombo.
From today’s Stockton (CA) Record:
Any new news on your end?
(for more on McE. v. Pombo, check out Howie Klein’s Blue America chat a while back – click the “Blue America” category link to the right, and it should pop up quick enough.)
CHS (120)-
Thanks. Faxes and calls are on the way to my Senators, though they be Republicans. Warner seems to be a reasonable man, and might consider the negative issues regarding Bolton, should his confirmation ever come to a vote. Persuadable? Perhaps. Perhaps not.
Allen, of course, is a dolt.
rwcole at 126 — I’m hearing through back channels that Chaffee informed Lugar that he would be voting NO on Bolton, which would have killed the nomination. So Lugar postponed the vote today. But I don’t have an on-the-record confirmation of that as yet — still trying to get someone to confirm it for me outright. (I’m also hearing a number of other rumors that I can’t get confirmed by solid sources…more on that as I get it.)
Never mind how talk-show host Rush Limbaugh has interpreted the film for his listeners as demonstrating that, in the Clinton era, “we didn’t do diddly-squat,” while the Bush administration was subsequently “caught up and sort of hamstrung by the existing procedures” and “hasn’t had a chance to change them.”
Hmm, yeah must be music to nut-wing ears.
Scuttlebutt has it that Bolton is only in the UN cause Condi hates his guts and insisted that he be kicked out of state. Wingnuts love him- so Clusterfuck had to find a spot for him- and the UN was available- and that’s the name of that tune.
Christy: this from an expert at Brookings:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00626.html
This will be another very interesting day..Clinton’s lawyer sends letter to abc. And yet the execs are shocked, just shocked that there would be a backlash to rewriting history!! Desperation is risking loads of $SS, what little credibility they still had left & the very real possibility of serious backfire damage against the odds of getting away with it free & clear.
Can the President Make Successive Recess Appointments to the Same
Position?
The President may make successive recess appointments of the same or a different
individual to a position.
From CRS primer on recess appointments:
http://www.senate.gov/referenc…..S21308.pdf
Redd– That makes sense–and Chaffee doesn’t want to vote “no” on Bolton until after the primary. AFTER the primary he can only be helped with a “no” vote.
Leaving this to the rump session seems to make sense for goopers. There is no good reason to take it up earlier- and they are already committed to the rump session.
Are the Republicans bolting on Bolton?
bolt:refusal to support or repudiation of a political party, candidate, or platform.
Furious BigDawg to ABC: Fix it or pull it, suckas!
ironranger @ 134
The Clinton letter is the last nail in the coffin, I think. There are enough things in the show that are demonstrably false that ABC is risking a HUGE lawsuit (Question for the lawyers–would a TV show be slander or libel?) for defamation of character. If the show makes it through the end of the day, I’ll be quite surprised.
immanentize @ 11
I would either ask him about National Security Letters and why good old fashioned Grand Jury subpeonas ain’t enough (hint, cause then you woud need to have a grand jury)
Or I would ask him about dedicated units related either to catchng OSAMA (I don’t thin they have one) Or a bout relative number of agents assigned specifically to the Joint Terrorism Task Force in particular years:
1999-2000 , 2001-2002, 2005-2006. Don’t let him get away with saying that “al the agents” or some such crap workon terrorism. It’s the agents dedicated solely to terrorism that count.
Last, you might want to ask about the amount of time agents are wasting tracking down false leads because they have been required to act on raw intelligence. (hint- little birdies have told me that field agents are furious about the waste of resources in this way that is preventing them from doing meaningful work to counter terrorism, and they are failry demoralized about it)
If you want to ask an insider’s question, ask him when and to what age they are changing the mandatory retirement age for agents.
Earlier article: March 11, 2005:
If You Can’t Trust a Poll
Everyone reads reports about surveys and political polls as if they were gospel, but what if the pollster is taking liberties with the data? An indictment returned in the District of Connecticut presents that very scenario involving DataUSA Inc . (now called ViewPointUSA Inc.), which has been charged along with its owner (Tracy Costin) and a manger (Darryl Hylton) with conspiracy and wire fraud for providing political and business clients with falsified data. The indictment alleges that employees were told to speak with cats and dogs for information. The company’s website (www.datausainc.com) has the following statement: “DataUSA upheld the highest standards in data collection as demonstrated in the excellence of our data. DataUSA’s predictions of voting behavior and consumer behavior routinely reflected to be within 1% to 2% of actual behavior. We are proud of the quality data collected and want to thank you for teaming with DataUSA and for your support over the years.”
http://lawprofessors.typepad.c…..index.html
Regarding the Crockumentary-…From reviewing their political $ contributions, it looks like Harvey Keitel and Mark Wahlberg usually support Dems. (Interestingly, Wahlberg’s agent is Ari Emanuel, Rahm’s brother.) Don’t these guys read the script before they sign up to play a part?
Do they feel good about their participation in this propaganda?
rwcole @ 136
What constitutes the “rump session,” exactly?
looseheadprop @ 139
lhp, you da bomb, da absolute BOMB!
Kurt @
14
“There are some people, and I’m one of them, that believe
George Bush was placed where he is by the Lord,” Tomanio said. “I don’t care how he governs, I will support him. I’m a Republican through and through.”
That, folks, is the 27%!
Frank Probst @ 138
The letters pointed out examples of scenes they had been told were in the miniseries, but which they said never happened. Albright objected to a scene that she was told showed her insisting on warning the Pakistani government before an airstrike on Afghanistan, and that she was the one who made the warning.
“The scene as explained to me is false and defamatory,” she said
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200….._officials
heh
Frank Probst @
138
Point made elsewhere last night that this ABC crockumentary was greenlighted, developed, and completed during the Chimp=FDR daze of yore. Now that Chimp’s giving Nixon and Pierce pedestal challenges as WPEver, this steaming can o’crap looks like the steaming can o’crap it is. If ABC spent $40,000,000 making it — and has sponsors backing away — could they actually pull it from next week’s schedule?
Seems to me the Ben-Veniste argument on Olbermann is the best: he’s seen only Part One, which is inaccurate; why presume Part Two any more accurately portrays BushCo’s actions? Somebody needs to find Lee Hamilton’s satphone number in Iraq and get him on the horn to Kean — who needs to back away from this tripe. Perhaps the pressure point for New Jersey voters is through Kean Junior, who seeks to unseat Menendez in two months?
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Had Enough?
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MSNBC poll update:
Read and weep Senator Clinton. Weep for your lack of insight and foresight. Cry for your lack of courage:
Julie Christie says:
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0906-24.htm
Christy Hardin Smith says
September 7th, 2006 at 9:24 am*
rwcole at 126 — I’m hearing through back channels that Chaffee informed Lugar that he would be voting NO on Bolton, which would have killed the nomination. So Lugar postponed the vote today.
OH omfg, now that would piss me off. Lugar is my Senator (well – from my state anyway). This innefectual, non-entity of a f’in senator has been left completely alone because he doesn’t play politics, supposedly. All Dick Lugar has ever wanted to be was Secretary of State. There was a time when he was qualified to have been SOS, but that time is past. He has NOTHING to do with domestic policy, but is allowed to mail in his predictably Republican-in-the-line-of-duty votes on each and every odious piece of garbage coming out of the R camp. All of this having been done with Lugar’s now-demented idea that he might be given the Sec-of-State role in the next R administration.
Well, it hasn’t happened yet, Dick, and it isn’t gonna happen now!!
Get your head out of your Cold-War-ass, and get out of the way!
Somebody’s still whisperin’ to the old boy, and he’s still believing it. Dick – you’re time is NOT gonna come….
op
Goopers have announced that there will be a session of congress following the election but before the new congress is sworn in in January. I think this is sometimes referred to as a “rump” session- although I may be mistaken about the nomenclature. It is a sign that the goopers are worried and want a chance to get in some last shots in case they lose one or both houses. It will be a VERY interesting session if the dems win- talk about yer obstructionist! You ain’t seen NOTHIN yet.
From dKos:
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Frank Probst @ 137
The second to the last nails — the last nails will be Madaline Albright’s and Sandy Berger’s multi million dollar lawsuits for libel.
Thinking back before fox news or at least before I was aware of it. Who was the precursor to the fox style (I know it was a large competative race for the bottom). In my opinion ABC news and entertainment won that race hands down. Also my tin foil hat keeps singing “remember that NSA is openly inside ABC news” and though that little story came out earlier this year I can’t help but wonder how long this may have been the situation before it was made public and what special arm twisting powers could have a roll in much of it’s product.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t…..EvrCSO3YnA
What would Peter Jennings do?
Another interesting development. Dems are helping to fan the fire of “Dems will take over the house”. Why are they doing this? Simple- they can now go through K street and ask em if they want to dump money on what is about to become the minority party- or whether they want to pony up with the winners. The next few weeks will determine if the goopers have ANY fundraising advantage in this election.
John Bolton is so emblematic of everything that is wrong and dangerous about this administration’s thinking that hammering him relentlessly is a great political tactic as well.
GO Chris Dodd and Russ Feingold!!!
immanentize @ 11
Like lhp, I was interested in the use of FBI resources. How many of them are being used to run down spurious NSA data mining leads? What is the status of its traditional law enforcement capability vs. its new anti-terrorist role? And then there is the question of the FBI’s top heavy, heavily bureaucratized, don’t rock the boat culture. Has this changed? for the better?
ABC’s gonna make an announcement shortly– breaking on MSNBC.
Front-page above-the-fold NYT: Ex-Clinton Officials Slam 9/11 Mini-Series
Dare I say $40 million is a drop in the bucket for Disney?
rwcole @ 150
Mostly, though, it’s a sign that Congress hasn’t done squat during the regular session. According to the THOMAS database of the Library of Congress that tracks the current status of legislation, none of the appropriations bills have yet been passed and signed by the president, and the fiscal year starts October 1 – in less than four weeks. Only one bill has passed both houses (Homeland Security) and it hasn’t yet gotten through a conference committee to iron out the differences.
Can you say “continuing resolution”?
One of the odd dynamics of a post-election session is always watching the folks who are leaving, to see what they say and do – especially those who lost elections. If the GOP loses one or both houses, I don’t think they’ll be able to take advantage of anything in this late session. The Dems will be very united, and will do whatever it takes to bide their time until January. If anything, I think the GOP is afraid of making some kind of mishap between now and November (Hi, Lincoln C!), and would rather put stuff off – and some exiting GOP folks might have some less than flattering things to say about failed policies that got them defeated.
Any way you slice it, it’ll be interesting, all right . . .
ABC’s first line of attack will probably be to preface the screening with a disclaimer saying “Warning- the writer just made some of this shit up- so don’t think yer watching the truth here”
That is unlikely to do them any good. The second line would be to change the parts that are bald faced lies. That would be expensive- but perhaps not as expensive as going with it as is.
New post — MSNBC just reported that ABC is going to have an announcement shortly — and that they may be pulling the GOP-U-Mentary. More as I get it on this.
Thanks everyone for the sites. I called the RI/MA affiliate of ABC – no phone pickup after 25 rings (I think they must be feeling the heat). I did the MSNBC poll – now up to 60% against the film. Plus I called the number for Scholastic (thanks for providing it). I spoke with a nice person there who said that we could contact them through their website. Which I will now do. It is (according to her) News@scholastic.com
Someone over at Kos is pointing out that it would be very effective for Lamont to make a statement regarding the “Path to 9/11″ sham on ABC. He could call upon Lieberman to do the same.
Lieberman would be in a tough situation – does he side with the Democrats or the Republicans on this issue? Lamont needs to force Lieberman to take sides on party issues like this because either way Lieberman goes, he will shed support from the other side of the aisle. This needs to be part of the Lamont team’s tactic going forward.
Make Lieberman take sides on issue after issue -from Bolton to ABC and beyond.
No matter which side Lieberman chooses (I’m guessing Republican 95% of the time), Lieberman will distance himself from the other side of the aisle.
Let’s not let Lieberman linger in the mushy center – publicly push him to take one side or the other on all prominent party-line issues going forward.
lotus @ 138
Bill Clinton = Big Dawg.
ABC = Fire hydrant.
From the NY Times article:
I am speechless.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..?id=156238
Today’s the NOTE really is a must read. It never mentions the GOP-O-DRAMA controversy, but does offer a really lovely set of insights into what is going on with Charlie Gibson and how the president is using the fictional story line of the GOP-O-DRAMA as the basis for a speech:
Oh and remember Anne Coulter raging about how 9-11 widows should not be allowed to speak out on any political issue? Well the Note has the republicans using using Scott Beamer’s dad in a very poltical way (What did she call Dems? Grief pimps? What does this make Reps?)
Oklahoma kiddo @ 148
Why thank you for that link, kiddo. Progressive New Yorkers, did you know that Hillary’s solidly progressive September 12th primary opponent, Jonathan Tasini, is unabashedly against the US military adventure in Iraq and for speedy withdrawal? Regarding women’s rights, Tasini says:
His positions are better than or equal to Hillary’s on every issue – check him out.
Peterr,
I agree. It has always been my understanding that rump sessions are seldom used to introduce new legislation but to work on the built up logjams. I think that a continuing resolution is a safe bet too.
In other words, Lamont’s team needs to demand that Lieberman clarify his positions on party line issue after issue. If Lieberman is decisive on an issue, he will lose support from one side of the aisle for his position.
And, by calling Lieberman to publicly state his positions on, for example, Bolton, Lamont makes it very uncomfortable for Lieberman to occupy the ambiguous “middle ground” that is only available to those who speak out of both sides of their mouths.
rwcole says:
hey fwiw, another of my favorite blogs recently asked for favorite nicknames of our beloved President – George W. Bush.
I immediately forwarded GW Clusterfuck as my all-time favorite.
if ABC pulls the Path to 9/11, should we all take a trip to Disneyworld/land and buy 60GB video ipods?
Bummer, Dude!
Damn, you mean those pictures Rove had of Voinovich in bed with the dead girl were just wasted in a cause that was lost anyway!? Maybe they can dig something up on Chafee, but this is getting damn expensive, and all over something the Decider has already decided.
If ABC pulls this gooperdrama it is a sign certain of a massive shift in the political foundations of the republic. American business is starting to figure out that the country is turning blue before their eyes= and if they want to influence govt.– they’d better be at LEAST even handed.
pollsters are reports a slide in party identification. Every month a larger majority of voters describe themselves as dems. Now if we can just get em to vote!
dingleberry on msnbc just said that the Clinton admin dropped the ball on terror cause there was a plot to assassinate President Clinton…
dingleberry man.
new thread
mui @ 23
and
Kurt @ 73
God, my senators make me sick. They both voted nay on the Feinstein cluster bomb amendment. They’re to the right of freakin’ DiFi! I am SOOOO voting for Jonathan Tasini.
Don’t know the answer on Bolton, but I would guess they’re taking the neocon route on that too.
But the network appeared to be leaving the door open to last-minute changes in the film.
“It is common practice to continue to make edits to strengthen a project right up to the broadcast date,” said Hope Hartman, an ABC spokeswoman.
The series, which cost almost $40 million, is to be broadcast without commercials, but Ms. Hartman said this had been planned, as a public service, and had nothing to do with any pressure that might have been brought on prospective advertisers
(NYT)
One more thing – Lieberman’s desire to occupy the “middle ground” is evidenced by the way he always talks about civility.
Lamont’s team needs to eliminate the “civility” argument by saying that there is nothing civil about sending our sons and daughters to die in a war based on lies.
Complaining about civility is, for Lieberman, another way to avoid talking about the issues, the war, and the failures of the Bush administration. I hope Lamont points this out in the next debate.
What does a $40 million partisan, factual inaccurate documentary and the controversy it spawned have to say about corporate oversight and governance at ABC Disney? Inquiring minds would like to know.
twolf1 @ 173
I don’t know about that, but it does mean I can continue to buy Quaker Oats (quaker was on the list of entertainment division advertisers)
Ijust called my Ohio senators and told them Bolton made me very uneasy.
Made me feel much less safe. He looks, talks, and acts crazy and right now, with the Middle East the way it is, we don’t need a crazy ambassador to the UN.
immanentize @
11
Im, my question would be this: The oath that people in service to our country take starts with an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. At what point does this oath kick in? Our Constitution is under attack.
xyz:
Just so. I wrote this a year ago as part of a response to a HuffPo post by “liberal hawk” Jaron Lanier:
There is only one incivility that matters here, and it is the supreme incivility of a war of aggression. People who supported such a war have no standing to lecture those who tried to prevent it about civility, however urbane and collected the former and however loud and unruly the latter.
The Nefarious Leslie @
18
Yep, and I heard that he’d been promised a position with (oh hell, i can’t remember the name but it is the “something” group). CARLISLE! That’s it.
FIRST OF NOVEMBER, — the Earthquake-day, –
There are traces of age in the one-hoss shay,
A general flavor of mild decay,
But nothing local, as one may say.
There couldn’t be, — for the Deacon’s art
Had made it so like in every part
That there wasn’t a chance for one to start.
For the wheels were just as strong as the thills
And the floor was just as strong as the sills,
And the panels just as strong as the floor,
And the whippletree neither less or more,
And the back-crossbar as strong as the fore,
And the spring and axle and hub encore.
And yet, as a whole, it is past a doubt
In another hour it will be worn out!
First of November, fifty-five!
This morning the parson takes a drive.
Now, small boys get out of the way!
Here comes the wonderful one-hoss shay,
Drawn by a rat-tailed, ewe-necked bay.
“Huddup!” said the parson. — Off went they.
The parson was working his Sunday’s text, –
Had got to fifthly, and stopped perplexed
At what the — Moses — was coming next.
All at once the horse stood still,
Close by the meet’n’-house on the hill.
First a shiver, and then a thrill,
Then something decidedly like a spill, –
And the parson was sitting upon a rock,
At half past nine by the meet’n’-house clock, –
Just the hour of the earthquake shock!
What do you think the parson found,
When he got up and stared around?
The poor old chaise in a heap or mound,
As if it had been to the mill and ground!
You see, of course, if you’re not a dunce,
How it went to pieces all at once, –
All at once, and nothing first, –
Just as bubbles do when they burst.
End of the wonderful one-hoss shay.
Logic is logic. That’s all I say.
(from “The Wonderful One Hoss Shay” by Oliver Wendell Holmes. A nice visual aid by which to view the demise of the gooper party.)
ralphbon – thanks – I couldn’t agree more.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 124
I recall hearing one of the talking heads say that they could give him a recess appointment again, but it would have to be without pay. That should be confirmed, though, since I don’t recall who said it. (I was probably watching Washington Week or something like that.)
New from Scholastic:
Harry Potter and the Chalice of Slander
For those of you who have forgotten, Bolton was the guy leading the pack of republicans breaking down the doors and charging like mad raging bulls threatening the Florida recount volunteers.
His reward for being a faithful Bush cronie was this post to the UN. Bolton has no qualifications for this job. He should not be confirmed.
Kurt,
“Wow, look at that…there’s our faithful 27% voting No on that poll…looks like the authoritarian cultist percentage has hit its fact-impervious floor.”
You nailed it – I remember Chomsky put the number around 23% for America – but obviously there are some coming out of the closet – or maybe – the number is really 3%, and each of them voted 9 times (wishful thinking?)!
That’s the problem – if Authoritarians (sounds like a church) fear they will have to make their own decisions – no “der fuehrer” to direct their blood lust (or tell them which Wal Mart aisles the specials are on – they get all “hollow” inside – and no amount of Faux News or Mexican Viagra can change it!
Peace
John Bolton is a pedophile.