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		<title>By: gleex</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-282126</link>
		<dc:creator>gleex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 16:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Did the media die today, after 9/11, or before the war in Iraq…or was it even before that? Tom Paine would have puked.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did the media die today, after 9/11, or before the war in Iraq…or was it even before that? Tom Paine would have puked.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281834</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 13:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Why should they get advance copies?  So they can censor the movie?  It is &lt;b&gt;fact&lt;/b&gt;, verified by the head of the CIA’s unit charged with capturing Bin Laden that Albright/Clarke/Berger stopped them from getting him because Clinton didn’t want to be seen as assassinating UBL.  They did give approval later, but the opportunity had been lost by then.  &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The Clinton administration:  8 years of non-accomplishment…but Albright’s failures go back through her time at the UN to her part in the disaster that was the Carter Administration.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should they get advance copies?  So they can censor the movie?  It is <b>fact</b>, verified by the head of the CIA’s unit charged with capturing Bin Laden that Albright/Clarke/Berger stopped them from getting him because Clinton didn’t want to be seen as assassinating UBL.  They did give approval later, but the opportunity had been lost by then.  </p>
<p>The Clinton administration:  8 years of non-accomplishment…but Albright’s failures go back through her time at the UN to her part in the disaster that was the Carter Administration.</p>
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		<title>By: DonHillis</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281254</link>
		<dc:creator>DonHillis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 01:06:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I urge people to contact Steve Jobs for help in squashing this miniseries.  He is the largest stock holder in the Disney Corp.  No way is he a right-winger.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I urge people to contact Steve Jobs for help in squashing this miniseries.  He is the largest stock holder in the Disney Corp.  No way is he a right-winger.</p>
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		<title>By: Tomas Piedra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281228</link>
		<dc:creator>Tomas Piedra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;It is on TV so it must be true!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: suz</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281209</link>
		<dc:creator>suz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;heads up - do people know that editor and publisher has updated their article. they now have a blow-by-blow of the whole mini series.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Turns out that the second half which is claimed by RW bloggers to be so “damaging to Bush” is not.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;But what about the famous Aug. 6, 2001 “PDB” that warned the president about bin Laden’s determination to strike within the U.S.? We see Secretary Rice reading it in private and looking concerned, but we never see the president’s reaction. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, on Sept. 4, 2001, Rice tells officials that thanks to the warnings in the PDB, the president is convinced al-Qaeda is a “real threat … the president is tired of swatting flies.” She seems to advocate taking some strong action and Clarke agrees, but Tenet argues against it. So in this telling, it appears that President Bush is in the vigilant/aggressive camp, perhaps thwarted by Clinton holdover Tenet. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;truthy enough for you?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>heads up &#8211; do people know that editor and publisher has updated their article. they now have a blow-by-blow of the whole mini series.</p>
<p>Turns out that the second half which is claimed by RW bloggers to be so “damaging to Bush” is not.
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<blockquote><p>But what about the famous Aug. 6, 2001 “PDB” that warned the president about bin Laden’s determination to strike within the U.S.? We see Secretary Rice reading it in private and looking concerned, but we never see the president’s reaction. </p></blockquote>
<p>However, on Sept. 4, 2001, Rice tells officials that thanks to the warnings in the PDB, the president is convinced al-Qaeda is a “real threat … the president is tired of swatting flies.” She seems to advocate taking some strong action and Clarke agrees, but Tenet argues against it. So in this telling, it appears that President Bush is in the vigilant/aggressive camp, perhaps thwarted by Clinton holdover Tenet. </p>
<p>truthy enough for you?</p>
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		<title>By: me to me</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281172</link>
		<dc:creator>me to me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;hey, I bet the ambassador can get Clinton to come in here and talk for a while&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;that would be a KICK!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey, I bet the ambassador can get Clinton to come in here and talk for a while</p>
<p>that would be a KICK!</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Dogs</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281158</link>
		<dc:creator>Mad Dogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Sep 2006 00:11:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-281115&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;marquer @ 271 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Which is a bad, bad thing, given that the Democratic Party is currently the only possible bulwark against what I personally think is a disastrous trend towards corporate theocracy in America. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The country needs a viable, effective opposition. Emphasis on the effective part.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Well, that commentary is a bit better than your previous. *g*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;A couple of observations:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;1. The old adage of &lt;em&gt;“lead, follow or get the feck out of the way”&lt;/em&gt; is always applicable.&lt;br /&gt;
2. Pissing on a friend’s shoes may get the friend’s attention, but tain’t likely to do much for the friendship. *g*&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;What I’m trying to say is telling folks they’re clueless disorganized idiots (which may or may not be true, but is certainly beside the point *g*), and then expecting them to be receptive to your “great” ideas is nowhere found in any treatise on leadership that I’ve encountered.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you have an idea on how to be successful, by all means, present it as effectively as you can!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-281115"><em>marquer @ 271 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Which is a bad, bad thing, given that the Democratic Party is currently the only possible bulwark against what I personally think is a disastrous trend towards corporate theocracy in America. </p>
<p>The country needs a viable, effective opposition. Emphasis on the effective part.
</p>
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<p>Well, that commentary is a bit better than your previous. *g*</p>
<p>A couple of observations:</p>
<p>1. The old adage of <em>“lead, follow or get the feck out of the way”</em> is always applicable.<br />
2. Pissing on a friend’s shoes may get the friend’s attention, but tain’t likely to do much for the friendship. *g*</p>
<p>What I’m trying to say is telling folks they’re clueless disorganized idiots (which may or may not be true, but is certainly beside the point *g*), and then expecting them to be receptive to your “great” ideas is nowhere found in any treatise on leadership that I’ve encountered.</p>
<p>If you have an idea on how to be successful, by all means, present it as effectively as you can!</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Burton</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281138</link>
		<dc:creator>Nancy Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:54:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Please post numbers at Disney to call and I understand from Huffingtonpost Steve Jobs is on the board at Disney.  Please post entire Disney Board.  The right would have blanketed them by now&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please post numbers at Disney to call and I understand from Huffingtonpost Steve Jobs is on the board at Disney.  Please post entire Disney Board.  The right would have blanketed them by now</p>
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		<title>By: marquer</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281115</link>
		<dc:creator>marquer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:41:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-280816&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Mad Dogs @&lt;br /&gt;
                246              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-280780&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;marquer @ 239 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;If I were a Republican…&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hmmm…you’re not? Could’ve fooled some folks.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Perhaps the easily fooled. There are a lot of those in the world.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I did volunteer for Kerry in ‘04, as a charter member of Kerry-Haters For Kerry.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But what I took away from that experience, and from having watched Democrats close up as they canvassed and campaigned, was that I wouldn’t trust the majority of them to organize the proverbial piss-up in a brewery. Weak and stumbling and disorganized. And not near mean enough.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Which is a bad, bad thing, given that the Democratic Party is currently the only possible bulwark against what I personally think is a disastrous trend towards corporate theocracy in America. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The country needs a viable, effective opposition. Emphasis on the effective part. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Hint: calling up big-time money managers, almost all of them Republican stalwarts, and then complaining about Republican bias by media companies in their portfolio, is almost the literal definition of a fool’s errand.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If you want to genuinely scare the bastards, so much so that they will never again think about such a propaganda piece, hit them in the pocketbook with as much force as you can muster. That means going after the Disney franchises with a serious boycott push. If you have the will for it. And the organizational capacity to make it happen.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-280816"><em>Mad Dogs @<br />
                246              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p><a href="#comment-280780"><em>marquer @ 239 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>If I were a Republican…</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Hmmm…you’re not? Could’ve fooled some folks.
</p>
</blockquote>
<p>Perhaps the easily fooled. There are a lot of those in the world.</p>
<p>Am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I did volunteer for Kerry in ‘04, as a charter member of Kerry-Haters For Kerry.</p>
<p>But what I took away from that experience, and from having watched Democrats close up as they canvassed and campaigned, was that I wouldn’t trust the majority of them to organize the proverbial piss-up in a brewery. Weak and stumbling and disorganized. And not near mean enough.</p>
<p>Which is a bad, bad thing, given that the Democratic Party is currently the only possible bulwark against what I personally think is a disastrous trend towards corporate theocracy in America. </p>
<p>The country needs a viable, effective opposition. Emphasis on the effective part. </p>
<p>Hint: calling up big-time money managers, almost all of them Republican stalwarts, and then complaining about Republican bias by media companies in their portfolio, is almost the literal definition of a fool’s errand.</p>
<p>If you want to genuinely scare the bastards, so much so that they will never again think about such a propaganda piece, hit them in the pocketbook with as much force as you can muster. That means going after the Disney franchises with a serious boycott push. If you have the will for it. And the organizational capacity to make it happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/06/no-copies-for-you/#comment-281094</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Sep 2006 23:24:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Once again the right wing has been allowed to frame the argument thanks to ABC. They are distracting everyone from the real issue. Why hasn’t OBL been dealt with in the last 5 years? That is 100% Bush!&lt;br /&gt;
100% his lack of trying!&lt;br /&gt;
100% his responsibility!&lt;br /&gt;
100% his failure!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again the right wing has been allowed to frame the argument thanks to ABC. They are distracting everyone from the real issue. Why hasn’t OBL been dealt with in the last 5 years? That is 100% Bush!<br />
100% his lack of trying!<br />
100% his responsibility!<br />
100% his failure!</p>
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