
(AP Photo/US Navy, Jim Watson)
by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber
The largest study yet of lung problems among 9/11 rescue workers shows bad news. "Nearly 70 percent of the rescue and cleanup workers who toiled in the dust and fumes at ground zero have had trouble breathing, and many will probably be sick for the rest of their lives," reports Amy Westfeldt. The study, conducted by the Mount Sinai Medical Center, monitored the health of nearly 16,000 ground zero workers. The volunteers who dug through the rubble in search of survivors inhaled dust laden with asbestos, pulverized concrete, mercury and toxins that will leave many of them chronically sick for the rest of their lives.
This tragedy happened because the same government officials who struck heroic poses following America’s worst terrorist attack betrayed the real heroes of the day — the construction workers, police, firefighters and everyday citizens who rushed to the scene and tried to help. This is a topic that we wrote about in our 2004 book, Banana Republicans. As volunteers dug through the rubble, they received assurances — now proven false — that the air in which they worked was safe to breathe.
One of the individuals responsible for this betrayal was James L. Connaughton, who had been appointed earlier that year by President Bush to head the White House Council on Environmental Quality (CEQ). Prior to assuming this post, Connaughton defended corporate clients including leading defendants in cases involving asbestos, a major liability concern for corporations because of its proven link to a number of life-threatening respiratory diseases including lung cancer. It is not terribly surprising, therefore, that CEQ played an important role in covering up information about asbestos and other toxins in the air in New York City following the terrorist attacks on September 11, 2001. Asbestos was used as an insulating material during construction of the first 40 stories of the first World Trade tower, and it joined the concrete, glass and other materials that were pulverized into a huge cloud of dust when the towers collapsed.
Literally before the dust had cleared, however, New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani joined the White House and the Environmental Protection Agency in assuring people that the city’s air was safe. The day after the attacks, the chief of staff for EPA Deputy Administrator Linda Fisher sent an e-mail to senior agency officials, saying that "all statements to the media should be cleared" first by the National Security Council, Bush’s main forum for discussing national-security matters. Fisher, a Bush appointee, had worked previously as a chief lobbyist and political fundraising coordinator for the Monsanto Company, a defendant in asbestos liability cases involving millions of dollars.
The original draft of the EPA’s statement on air quality, written two days after the 9/11 attack, contained a clear warning: "Even at low levels, EPA considers asbestos hazardous in this situation." Before releasing it to the public, however, the White House reworded it to say almost the exact opposite: "Short term, low level exposure to asbestos of the type that might have been produced by the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings is unlikely to cause significant health effects."
The changes were made, according to a report issued two years later by the EPA’s inspector general, at the behest of Connaughton’s Council on Environmental Quality. "As a result of the White House CEQ’s influence," the report noted, "guidance for cleaning indoor spaces and information about the potential health effects from WTC debris were not included in the EPA’s issued press releases. In addition, based on CEQ’s influence, reassuring information was added to at least one press release and cautionary information as deleted from EPA’s draft version of that press release. . . . Every change that was suggested by the CEQ contact was made." According to the EPA chief of staff, in fact, "no press release could be issued for a three- to four-week period after September 11 without approval from the CEQ contact."
On September 16, EPA and OSHA issued another news release stating that "the majority of air and dust samples monitored at the crash site and in lower Manhattan do not indicate levels of concern for asbestos." In another statement two days later, EPA administrator Christine Todd Whitman said she was "glad to reassure the people of New York and Washington, D.C. that their air is safe to breathe and their water is safe to drink." Within a space of ten days after the attacks, the EPA had issued five statements, all of them reassuring the public that the air around the World Trade towers was safe to breathe. Rescue workers at the site trusted those assurances as they dug frantically in hope of finding survivors, often without face masks or other respiratory protection. In fact, those reassurances were as toxic as the air the rescue workers inhaled. It wasn’t until June of the following year that the EPA determined that air quality had returned to pre-9/11 levels, by which time respiratory ailments and other problems began to surface in hundreds of New Yorkers.
Corporate-funded think tanks went even further, declaring not only that the air was safe but that asbestos safety regulations had contributed to the death toll from the terrorist attack. "Asbestos fibers in the air and rubble following the collapse of the World Trade Center are adding to fears in the aftermath of Tuesday’s terrorist attack," wrote Steven Milloy, a columnist for Fox News and an "adjunct scholar" at the Cato Institute. "The true story in the asbestos story, though, is the lives that might have been saved but for 1970s-era hysteria about asbestos." In his column, which was published on the Fox News website just three days after the 9/11 attacks, Milloy went on to speculate that asbestos insulation might have delayed the steel framework of the building from melting "by up to four hours." The only individuals Milloy quoted to support his theory, however, were scientists who had previously worked as paid expert witnesses for the asbestos industry during product liability lawsuits filed by cancer victims. Eight months later, Milloy was still telling Fox News that rescue workers had not been exposed to toxics as he ridiculed firefighters who were suing the city, portraying them as greedy opportunists trying to "get more than just what they’re due."
None of these experts had actually done research comparing asbestos to other heat-resistant insulating materials in an event like the 9/11 attack, and there is no scientific evidence whatsoever to support the claim that asbestos would have delayed the collapse of the towers by even five seconds, let alone four hours. "If you look at what Marks’ Standard Handbook for Mechanical Engineers and the Fire Protection Handbook have to say about structural steel insulation, it becomes clear that there is nothing magical about asbestos in this application," says Jim Dukelow, a senior research engineer for the U.S. Department of Energy. "It was used because it was less expensive that the other spray-on materials and cheaper to apply than the non-spray-on alternatives. Other materials, specifically mineral wools, have equivalent or better insulation properties."
The official reassurances failed to satisfy Alyssa Katz, who edits City Limits, a nonprofit magazine about New York City affairs. On September 11, she watched as a giant plume of smoke settled over her home in Brooklyn. "The whole neighborhood was raining paper and dust," she recalled. As the months passed, New Yorkers began experiencing health problems. "Many people who live or work in lower Manhattan are convinced that they have not been told the truth," she reported. "They say that they’re sick — throats sore, lungs hacking. Cleanup workers, local residents, and, most of all, firefighters at ground zero attest to intense respiratory illnesses unlike anything they recall experiencing before."
On October 26, 2001, New York Daily News columnist Juan Gonzalez wrote a front-page story contradicting ഊthe official government line, detailing EPA test findings of notable quantities of toxic substances including dioxins, PCBs, benzene, lead and chromium in addition to asbestos. The day Gonzalez’s column appeared, EPA officials held a joint press conference with New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani to dismiss the story, calling it irresponsible, and Gonzalez came under increased scrutiny from his own paper, and several different editors were assigned to review his subsequent columns on the topic. "From that day on, the whole attitude toward the story changed," he says. "I did several more columns, but every one of them was highly scrutinized."
Within the EPA as well, dissent was marginalized. Prior to the 9/11 attacks, the EPA had an ombudsman, Robert Martin, who was assigned to independently assess and comment on EPA decisions. Martin and his chief investigator, Hugh Kaufman, criticized the agency’s handling of air-quality information following the terrorist attacks. On April 16, 2002, Kaufman spoke to The NewsHour with Jim Lehrer. The terrorist attack’s "first set of victims," he said, "are the people who were killed when the attack happened. The second set of victims are the people who are exposed to the chemicals: to lead, to mercury, to cadmium, dioxin, benzene, asbestos, all these chemicals that have spread throughout lower Manhattan and have landed in their apartments, in their schools, in the office buildings—and these Americans who are also suffering from the attack have been abandoned by the government. And that’s not right. It’s our job at EPA not to count the dead bodies ten or twenty years down the line, not to operate on people to get rid of cancer. It’s our job to prevent cancer. And we fell down on the job."
A few days later, while Martin was out of town on EPA business, the agency announced a plan to place the ombudsman’s office under the direct control of its inspector general, a move that would effectively end its autonomy (the whole purpose of an ombudsman in the first place). New rules were imposed, forbidding the ombudsman from mediating disputes between the public and the agency, or from talking with lawmakers or reporters without permission. Martin returned to his office to find that the locks of his office were changed, and his files and computer had been taken. He and Kaufman resigned in protest. "They have portrayed this transfer as granting more independence for the ombudsman function when, in fact, it destroys it completely," Martin said. "I cannot operate with that falsehood."
A year after the attacks, the New England Journal of Medicine published a study by David Prezant, the deputy chief medical officer for the New York City Fire Department. It showed that 332 city firefighters had developed "World Trade Center cough" and that roughly half of them remained on medical leave or light duty. "Although no firefighters have retired from respiratory problems, nearly 500 firefighters may have to retire by year’s end because of their failing health," the Washington Post reported.
"We asked many times, is it safe here?" said Jack Ginty of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association, many of whose members died in the towers’ collapse, while others went on to dig frantically in the rubble searching for survivors. "We were told by city officials, federal officials, ‘oh, yeah, we’ve tested the air, the air is fine,’" Ginty recalled in August 2003, "Now, finally the truth comes out that they have been lying to us all the way along. Had we known, we could have operated in a different fashion."
Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber are the co-authors of several books including Weapons of Mass Deception and The Best War Ever: Lies, Damned Lies and the Mess in Iraq, which will be published by Tarcher/Penguin in September.
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Christine Todd Whitman; one can only hope that she will never find peace in her soul. If she is at peace, she has no soul.
This evening’s NewsHour with Jim Lehrer had a segment featuring one of the First Responders whose health has been compromised by his month’s work at Ground Zero.
It was very moving… his description of how it’s affected his life and his family, and what he’s doing now, to help both himself and other First Responders.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/ For now, you have to look for the link to a podcast. It’s under “Reflections.”
This is just typical of these scoundrels. Whatever the issue, war, the economy, the environment, health care, social security, their first impulse is to lie. Their second is to intimidate any who would challenge those lies. Just ask Joe Wilson or nearly any government scientist.
Why does the Bush administration hate America?
Sandpaper Kate on Chris Matthews.
Pat Buchanon hearts Rick Santorum. Kate does too.
ccmask @ 6
shield the children’s eyes… or just change the channel
“It was used because it was less expensive that the other spray-on materials and cheaper to apply than the non-spray-on alternatives…
snip
I guess they had low numbers of money and had to go with a cheap preoduct…ka-ching. Guilliani had to know.
Of course, according to the administration, the large majority of these so-called sick people are malingerers attempting to extort money from the public till. I mean, how greedy can you get? Contracting emphysema or cancer just so you can squeeze a few dollars out of the government and quit your job and kick back and relax. Joke’s on them, though, because most of these conditions are fatal. That’ll show ‘em.
Sorry for the snark, but something about this makes me bitter and angry.
I’m wondering how extensive the exposure to harmful emissions was — that is, how far from ground zero? The dust scattered for blocks, maybe miles, and watching from NJ, I could see that the plume was visible for weeks, which means there was settlement downwind somewhere.
Lots of folks with different skills volunteered to go help the recovery teams, and they were located only a few blocks away from ground zero. E.g., my sister organized a team of physical massage therapist to provide free back/shoulder rubs to those who were digging for hours.
Have the studies tried to identify and reach all these others who might have gotten secondary exposures to the dust? Is there even a record of these people?
Don’t you know?
That is why Bush waited a week or more
before going
to the WTC site,
because of all that cancer causing
poluted air that was still there.
So Chris says the Republicans are running from Bush and one of them even told him not to come because it would hurt his chances to win the election.
So, Chris is finally coming around. Too late in my book. He is fully responsible for aiming his microphone towards Bush for the last 6 years.
Hi! twolf!!!!!!
hi ccmask!
ccmask @ 8
you build a building with the materials you have, not the materials you wish you had. ;)
Seeing those 9/11 cleanup workers on TV, and hearing that cough, that awful cough; it just breaks my heart.
Both of my FDNY brothers were involved in the recovery efforts. For many months.
So, Mayor Giuliani’s first allegiance was to his Republican masters and funders rather than to his city. If I were an opponent running against him I would just hammer him with this. And where has the current mayor been? He should be screaming about this betrayal.
Doctor Turtle (pulmonologist) just saw a guy who was a volunteer at ground zero. He’s 36 with severe asthma and some complications..I’ll ask more about it when he’ gets home.
These BASTARDS will never stop, even when they are finally in jail.
ccmask…how are they, your bros?
If this article can be spread around the internet fast, it could actually cause ABC to rethink airing the Republican “Path to 911″ infomercial. I wonder if they showcased any of these sick retired firemen in their movie.
Let’s spotlight this far and wide. Thanks Sheldon! Great article with good links!
I’m no pulmonologist but it just stands to common sense that dusty air isn’t good for children or other living beings … I just couldn’t understand why the government experts at the time were saying it was safe to breath that powder …
I remember hearing with a skeptical ear the reports from the media saying that the EPA has tested and everything would be fine while watching the dust cloud engulfing manhattan slowly settle. This admin is all about 1st impressions. They tell you what you want to hear, then they do the opposite — or worse.
OT – Olbermann is on the ABC BS911 story
I am just under two miles away from Ground Zero in Brooklyn, the direction in which most of the smoke and debris flew. The smell was ungodly . . . like nothing I ever experienced. It was inconceivable that it was “harmless.” We all lived with it for a very long time.
The rush to “clean” it all up was insane . . . and the poor firemen and policmen who just wanted to find the remains of their friends and colleagues are the real victims here.
I blame Rudy Guiliani. George Bush, and Christine Todd Whitman.
Both of them are pretty quiet about the whole thing. It’s hard to get into a discussion with them. They both lost between 20 and 30 really good friends. Firemen are very close. They hang out together, they party together and have big picnics together. Take it from me, a FDNY daughter.
My one brother was heavily involved. My sister-in-law said throughout the recovery effort, he would come home after a 24 hour shift, eat dinner, and pass out on the bed. Early the next morning, he would open his eyes, jump in his boots and run out the door.
So far, no health problems, although they both retired.
Perhaps undecided Americans can finally GET IT. Bu$hCo only cares about $$$ – not WE THE PEOPLE.
HAD ENOUGH?
************************
“Justice in the life and conduct of the State is possible only as first it resides in the hearts and souls of the citizens.”
– Plato : Ancient Greek philosopher (428/427-348/347 B.C.)
I call bs on the entire government– we may very well be a failed state in freefall.
Asbestos legislation stalled by K street.
Remember Agent Orange?
What about Gulf War Syndrome?
Depleted Uranium?
Vaccines for bird flu?
Anthrax prophylaxis?
Mad Cow Disease?
Access to medical care?
Medicare part D?
Stem cell research?
Katrina?
Protecting our ports and nuke facilities?
Securing loose nukes?
etc.
Lying everyday on nearly every issue.
I don’t trust them at all.
These are criminal acts by those who keep trumpeting that the security of the American people is their foremost responsibility. Thanks Sheldon and John.
ccmask @ 25
cc, so sorry to hear this. I truly hope that your brothers remain healthy, and that they feel our nation’s gratitude for their service.
I’ve been driving all day, but did anyone notice that as Bush talked about how the CIA secret prisons yielded intelligence on terror plots, the pentagon was issuing “new” guidelines on the rights of all prisoners with the statement “No good intelligence was ever gathered by torture”
On the subject of the ABC 911 thing:
ABC Tells Fox That Path to 9/11 ‘Is Based Solely and Completely on the 9/11 Commission Report’
How many ways can these idiots find to harm or kill their own people? Lies, deception and or neglect of this kind should be enough for crimes against humanity! Can we have a hearing now?
twolf1 @ 23
Olbermann is never off-topic.
ccmask at 25 — next time you see either brother, please give them an extra long hug from me. All of those guys are true heroes. I know folks from here who were mining rescue experts who were called in to help with rescues — or at least what they hoped were going to be rescues — in the early hours after the towers fell. None of them can talk about what they had to deal with there, what they saw deep in the bowels of the tower shells.
And my friends in NYC who watched one of the planes hit the tower while in a business meeting, and then spent the next few hours in the meeting room in horror as the rest of the day unfolded…it’s all so painful to think about, even five years later. I lost people that i knew in the towers, and I know so many people who lost SO many more.
To know about all of this with air quality — and to know that it was something that the people making decisions knew about from the moment it all happened — it’s beyond my ability to talk about. This is the first time in a long time that I just want to throw up my hands and scream. I never feel that way — I’m a roll up my sleeves and get something done kinda gal. But this…this is more than I can bear this evening.
PBS NOW interview with Whitman and others after the EPA IG Report Came out in 2003
I believe that the original ruling in the class action was that the case could proceed against Whitman individually as well as the EPA, a very rare thing. I don’t know if it was upheld or not.
These kind of cya maneuvers are downright unamerican. Not that we should be surprised that a sniveling frat boy and his power-mad controllers would stoop so low.
I can’t bear to watch Bush today. I’ve avoided news until just a moment ago, and seeing him talk about 9/11 and his end-run on the Geneva Conventions and the CIA rendition/torture stuff just makes my blood boil off the charts. Now they’re running an ad about Couric having a special exclusive interview with him and I have to turn it off. I hate this bs glitz-news trend and then giving this guy a platform to spew more hatred and lies – I just can’t tolerate it.
OT– KO calls it a 9/11 Mockumentary– Ben-Veniste coming up.
twolf1 @ 30
I read this, and the source of that statement is the “Fox Reporter.” So it’s not clear whether ABC officials told the Fox reporter this or the reporter simply concluded this was true based on earlier, but later discredited, reports. (or whether it was just more faux news)
Hang on Christy, I will go outside and scream for you. I don’t have neighbors. :)
twolf1 @
30
twolf1, since ABC has been spinning this all day with their spam form letter to everyone who has written to them, do you think this is now Fox spin?
KO on Mockumentary on MSNBC next in the west!
angie @ 27
Mad cow disease is real. I used to work in the neuro dpt at Mass General, this was the one contagion they feared.
Now don’t get me started about
chicken coward fake hyped $$$$avian flu.Gang — this is a post which should be spotlighted. Liberally!
timewarp @ 43
I am so numb, just tell me who might listen and I will spot ‘em.
What meta said, 28 & 36.
ccmask – Anytime I saw any of the cleanup recovery it would make you want to cry all over. The volunteers had such a striken look.
egregious, I know that Mad Cow is real and we don’t really test for it and now I don’t eat beef. If the Japanese are smart enough not to eat our cows, well so am I.
I trust them more than us. ;(
KO, doing a story on Katherine Harris victory in Fla primary, shows a picture of her, sorta side view, and says, “showing us two points of her platform . . . “
The Bush’s and Cheney’s have made their fortunes from the burning of fossil fuels and environmental debauchery. The way these guys made their living was in full view well before the elections of 2000. The Bush gang are a sleazy, greasy, smarmy bunch. This administration has as much concern for the victims of the 9/11 rescue and cleanup as it has for the victims of Katrina. Or for that matter, dead or gravely wounded American G.I.’s and innocent civilians killed in Iraq. The Bush years, and it’s legacy, will be characterized by an uncanny lack of empathy, concern, and understanding for human needs.
Giuliani is nothing but a self-serving politician. Whitman was a cowardly toadie. Connaughton is a criminal.
But our dreary days will begin to brighten. Come this autumn.
Eureka Springs, AR- will you scream for me too?
Thank you, Sheldon and John for providing this history of the crime. How can Rudy Giuliani maintain the level of support that he still enjoys in light of his despicable behavior?
I agree with AZ Matt:
Respects to your brothers, ccmask.
Aside from lung problems, I’ve also heard about unusal amounts of kidney problems and failures. Since the kidneys are responsible for cleansing the blood, it makes sense.
Mixed in that toxic cloud were cement dust, silica from glass, lead, murcury, other heavy metals, and carcinogenic vapors from plastics, insulation, office devices, PCBs from electrical transformers, etc. So it’s not just risks like silicosis but a wide variety of environmental poisons.
But Christy Todd Whitman said it was safe, so don’t worry.
BTW, what does this do to Giuliani’s image as a good guy, and his chances for a run in ‘08?
OT- Mary4 I changed something 2 days ago, and I changed something today. Have you seen any change in how your comments appear, or don’t appear as the case may be?
Keith just had his wicked, wicked way with Katherine Harris … hilarious ! (grrrr!!!)
Thanks meta & Christy. The craziest part for me was they told my one brother to go to Queens for the day. He gets there and he’s working at this small firehouse when that plane falls out of the sky a block away! Remember that one? I’ll bet people forget about that. It wasn’t too long after the WTC takedown.
When 911 first happened, it was almost a whole day that I didn’t know where either of them were. I still have all the emails back and forth with both my sisters-in-laws…what a horror. My best girlfriend is a doctor and she was sent to Mt. Sinai and she called me to say she was okay and added “we’re doomed”. I’ll never forget that. And sadly, a girlfriend I had known in school and who worked for the Port Authority, was one of the last bodies that was pulled out of the rubble.
I was never one to believe in Heaven or Hell but having lived through these last 6 years with this administration I have come to long for the day when these fuckers BURN in hell – and may I add – with no firefighters to come and save them.
meta @ 40
Well, first off, everything on Fox is spin. I think they desire it to be true so badly that, in their minds, it becomes true. They will back their boy Chimpy no even if it means saying something good about another network. I don’t know what else ABC would think might happen by taking the story to Fox.
OT from the Lamont Front: No Joe-Mentum from Lamont
*ilson46201 @ 22
I’m not a pulmonologist either, but a particle person.
“Everyone knows” (and by that I mean people like me who work in air quality research for a living) that (a) breathing lots of combustion-produced particles is bad for you — particularly at the kind of levels produced by the WTC buildings as they burned, and (b) that the high temperatures associated with that combustion in all likelihood produced all kinds of atypical chemical species in the air or on/in the particles. (I’d be more specific but I haven’t studied the WTC very closely.) In fact, understanding the health effects of fine/ultrafine airborne particulate matter has been a focus of EPA’s funding for at least the last 10 years or so. I’d point out that this is in addition to the “dust” particles (although some of them may have been coated in combustion-related material). While the exact mechanisms are controversial, the impact on health is not. IMHO, shameful. Of course.
Whew – Amazing what a long Kings River Valley scream does for the soul. Can’t hold this kind of merde inside.
Another disgraceful chapter in the BushCo administration.
*ilson46201 @ 52
100 people? how did she … find… room… for.. them. LOL
Valley Girl – re Mary4’s computer/fdl access issues — a couple of people e-mailed me to ask if I was having similar problems (no), because they were — they couldn’t post, or a post would disappear or get hung in indefinite moderation. I promised to ask if you know there are others still experiencing these problems?? And if you’ve figured out how to solve them??
Dangerstein in da house over at Joe’s place. :)
Eureka Springs, AR @
44
How about NPR. The NY Times. WaPo. And Keith Olberman. And anyone else you can think of.
I think a lot of Florida Dems changed parties to vote for Harris just to take her down in the general.
You know, someone in an earlier thread said that probably the majority of people in this country either knew someone directly or indirectly on those flights or in those buildings or in the rescue and relief efforts. New York is a major hub and crossroad for millions of people.
A rising star pastry chef at Boulevard restaurant in SF had just left the previous May to take the position at WOW and perished there. This tragedy touched everyone. That is why we are so full of grief and outrage about what is happening today in the WH, in the Congress, and in the media.
scarecrow at 60 — we’ve had a few people having those problems and we’ve been experimenting a bit to figure out why it is. We switched over to the latest version of WordPress, and we think that may (I stress may) have something to do with it — but VG has really been leading the charge on this, along with Jamie, our resident computer genius.
The only family I have in the area have a loft a couple blocks from the WTC site… they were fortunately smart and well-off enough to GTFO for a couple of months after the towers went down. I can only imagine what it was like for so many other people who couldn’t do the same.
As someone with chronic respiratory illness, I don’t wish this kind of sickness on ANYONE.
News from across the pond – Minister resigns in attempt to force Blair exit
OT – to egregious, I left this note on another thread, but suspect you won’t be revisiting it. With regards to quick and easy sharing of large files such as video, I know a way to share files privately. Perhaps FDL could set up a Folder Share account for known FDL users.
I have such a folder that I share with a friend and it holds an enormous amount of files. Even video can be winrared to download in a reasonable amount of time.
twolf1 at 67 — I read somewhere that 10 junior ministers resigned today as well. They are pissed at Blair for not declaring a date certain for stepping down from party leadership.
I caught a brief bit from a Discovery Times show called Toxic Legacy the other night, a fireman (or a brother of one) who was sobbing over the memory of his loss. The mother had given Bush the man’s badge as a token, and he was of the opinion that Bush should give it back because Bush was a lying bastard and the EPA was too. I looked at the schedule, it is due for another showing 9/9 and 9/10, also several slots later in the month.
The show covered pretty much the same ground as this post, but I only remember impressions because I was here at the Lake catching up on comments, with the TV on in the background. I seem to be doing that a lot, lately.
Thanks Christy — I’ll pass this on, and let them know VG and Jaime are working on it. And thanks for their help.
Hi, *ilson, have you been two-timing Jane today, even getting front-paged elsewhere, you naughty boy?
timewarp @ 62
Go local! The big guys are more likely to know about the stories and ignore/slant/disparage the stories. Local media outlets help shape storylines. They select the stories from the wire services, etc. Plus, and a big plus, they are not as used to getting these sorts of responses so they may be more receptive than the national media outlets.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 69
yes, it is a mass exodus of sorts. odd to see such conviction in government officials.
ccmask @
53
I remember that welll, ccmask. I heard the boom from here in Brooklyn. It was awful. We were all still so jittery and were sure that the plane had been shot out or bombed out of the sky. It was one month to the day after 9-11.
And I am so glad to hear that your brothers still have their health.
BTW — there was an amazing documentary here on Father Mykal Judge last night on channel 13. It was so inspiring and so sad at the same time.
AZ Matt @ 17
The current mayor is also a Republican. Nuf said?
Gopudrama? is on the screen on Olberman..bwaaaaaaaaaaa
timewarp – Thanks, pulling myself back to semi-normal. Spot on.
timewarp said:
That’s why we’re going to get our country back.
Jeffreyw: I hope she gets it back.
bush was on that rubble without a mask. here’s hoping he got a big whiff of asbestos while he was there…
GOOD! on MSNBC they are hitting on the fact that Path to 9/11 is being sent to schools as a learning tool.
He was on the rubble on Cipro.
cc, I remember that crash very well, because it added such an eeriness to the whole spectacle. It was hard to believe that it wasn’t another act of terrorism at the time.
op99 @ 72
huh? where?
Rawstory has an interesting article up about Rove. Apparently “Hubris” reveals that Rove withheld a crucial email for nearly a year.
Here’s the link:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0906.html
Here’s a quote:
In the new book, Hubris: The Inside Story of Spin, Scandal, and the Selling of the Iraq War, veteran Newsweek reporter Michael Isikoff and Nation Washington editor David Corn reveal they obtained a copy of the printed-out email sent by Rove to then-Deputy National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley in July 2003.
The printout is dated in November of 2003. Rove’s lawyer — Robert Luskin — didn’t turn the email over to the special prosecutor investigating the outing of a CIA officer until October 2004.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 65
Thanks Christy- I thought that my comments about this in mod were being ignored. As you have seen, other mods are having some problems. Please email me, and I will give you an update on what I’ve done. I am so glad that Jamie is on this one, because the frustration level wa err… sorta rising ;) VG
Yeah meta. And I think all the people on the plane all lived in the same neighborhood, maybe in the Bronx???
scarecrow- I don’t know if I’ve solved any problems or not… just hoping not to create more at this point!!!!
What a superior post by Sheldon Rampton and John Stauber!
Kudos and my deep appreciation!
WRT to why, oh why these insensitive, callous, prevaricating Repug politicians would deign to blow smoke at us, the answer is simply that they care, and strive only for the “right perception” of reality, their
fantasy“reality”.In other words, that stinking, choking, noxious cloud you’re working in, that’s just a figment of your imagination, or it’s good for you – what do scientists know anyways, or the old standby, it’s not my fault, let’s blame somebody else.
Acceptance of reality is a surefire way for one to be excluded from the Repug party. Thank heavens for small favors!
What is a primary organic contribution of the Bush Presidency? Gas. Carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide. America smothers. George dithers.
*xyz @ 86
Way more than that at David Corn’s own blog. There’s some fascinating stuff to come including the REAL reason Plame was outed.
OT – someone here a few weeks ago (I don’t remember who) has suggested making NASCAR style jackets for congresscritters with the logos of companies they accepted money from. GoodMagazine.com did up Santorum and Hillary:
Political NASCAR
op99 @ 91
It aint me ! really… I dont have the time for such tomfoolery — my oppo research locally is paying off massively and I am run ragged digging out microfiches with arrest records, etc. Gawd, I love politics !
I’m usually skeptical about these things, but this does seem to be a legitimate claim. (I should also point out that I’m not a health professional). This is a very large group of individuals who are much less healthy now than average. Many, according to the WaPo article, were healthy before they worked at ground zero. I don’t know about all those chemicals, but PCBs, lead, and asbestos are known to be bad for you – the latter causes lung problems.
So why is Mayor Bloomberg poo-pooing this? I suppose that he wants to protect the city from disability claims, but I think that’s a lost cause. It would be in a sane world. From the WaPo link:
Christy, right now I’m wishing my neighbors weren’t so nearby, too.
OT, but wanted to alert people in SF that the premiere of Iraq for Sale is next Wednesday:
http://iraqforsale.bravenewthe…..-francisco
There will also be a reception for Robert before the screening, and discussion afterward.
*ilson, well I’ll be damned. For a guy with no time, lot’s of assets in your portfolio showed up over there today, I must say. ;)
Valley Girl @ 89
I know everyone appreciates your efforts (and Jaime’s). It might be helpful to know whether you’ve found any common factors, such as types of computers? internet provider? Firefox vs ??? — anything that would let people know that if you have one of [these] or use [that] you’re probably having problems.
ccmask- a huge hug to you. I rememer your earlier posts about 9/ll- one I responded to with info about cell phones, if I remember correctly. But I don’t remember you having mentioned your brothers before. Some people seem to contrast this ABC docudrama with the “facts” from the 9/11 Commission Report… and, perhaps you know why I put “facts” in quotes. xxooxoxo VG
oh, I indeed did post an occasional link now and then … http://www.DumpJoe2006.com
I have been sickened by the initial lies and the resulting health atrocities. In fact, for personal reasons of my own due to my own disability status, I have been keeping a running record of news articles on the topic since October 2001.
Check it out. It’s quite sobering.
OT–Karl Rove is the worst person in the world on KO for funneling money to HoJo.
ROTFLMAO.
OfT:
Karl Rove is KO’s Worst Person in the World for directing funders to support RGJoe’s primary campaign, according to Insight magazine: Joe took the money but wouldn’t play along. KO sez Joe’s either a genius or dishonoring the great American tradition of political corruption!
Cujo359 @ 96
Breathing in the WTC smoke could lead to health problems not in the lungs. You’re right that asbestos fibers are large enough that if they get into the lungs they’ll stay there. Other, smaller particles can cross the into the blood stream, go elsewhere and cause different health problems. Again, it’s a very active area of research but, in general, combustion particles are really the last thing you want to breathe.
schoolpsyc @ 102
SchoolPsych, thank you for assembling this list of articles.
Joe online is denying the story about Karl Rove funneling money massively at the last minute… it’s another Lamonster smear !
Cujo359 – Benzene is really bad as well. Not a health professional either but my Uncle worked for railroads and always worried about benzene tankers. Wasn’t benzene the main chemical problem in Bohpal, India (sp?) a few years ago? Anyway really bad stuff.
The hairs on my arms are standing on end reading this.
I, too caught part of a program, last night, about this.
God bless these heroes,and give them comfort and healing.
God Damn any one who is involved in the cover up.
fwiw, my “Who you calling MACACA?” T-shirt arrived today — I even have a political event tomorrow I can wear it to !
scarecrow- the only complaints I’ve seen before that were browser-related had to do with Safari. I can’t remember the details, but I think they had to do with accessing the site. And, I don’t think that any of the problems (that I know of so far) can be traced to particular internet providers or otherwise above, browsers. I am no computer expert, believe me. But, I am pretty “intuitive” about solving problems, and I haven’t had a “breakthrough” yet. (having said “intuitive” I do try to test for possible solutions in a scientific manner, as I am a scientist). This has been a frustrating episode.
IT WOULD be very helpful to know, however, when the problems started that you are mentioning, to see if they are related to the new WP version, or were there before and ones that we were unaware of. VG
Thanks Valley. I remember something about the cells. I never felt like mentioning it before……but after reading this story I just came out with it. I guess I felt so lucky to still have my two brothers when others had lost so much that day. It was quite a blow when I got a call that a school chum had perished and I think of her often. It is just amazing that you can go to work one day, die in a huge tragedy on a street of NY and they don’t find your body for over a month. Like someone said above, we all knew someone affected. I’m very proud of my brothers and I am very lucky to still have them in my life.
ccmask at #6:
Your abbreviated alert “Sandpaper Kate on Chris Matthews” conjured up a sudden visual that I’ll be a while in banishing from my mind’s eye. :-}
*ilson46201 @ 109
It’s worth a lot to me, *ilson! Yay– spread the word and wear it in good health, sir.
Eureka Springs, AR @ 107
Bhopal was methyl isocyanate (different stuff). Benzene is a carcinogen and regulated as a toxic.
(Oh and CO and CO2 don’t count as organic species says the science geek.)
A relative by marriage of mine was a freshman at elite public Stuyvesant High School in downtown Manhattan. Of course, school was in session when the planes struck. Stuy is located in Battery Park, almost within the shadow of WTC. After the attack she walked home to Queens, crossing the Brooklyn Bridge on foot. She is now a sophomore at Princeton. So far she seems OK.
http://ny.metro.us/metro/local…../4244.html
Yeah Dale. I’m a freakin prude.
Old Sow @
58
This administration lies. That’s all they do.
They say: We don’t torture, right in the face of their torture. I think people don’t want to believe the extent of the maliciousness and refuse to see the complete depravity of these people. That’s all I can come up with.
It seems to me that we have the opportunity for the perfect experiment. Let’s recreate the witch’s brew of particulates, suspend them in the air of a room, and invite the various government officials and conservative pundits who are poo-poohing this report to live in the room for a week in return for a million dollars.
Do you think we’d get any takers?
Scarborough headline on screen-ABC BASHING BUBBA?
Intentionally distorting facts-quote scarborough.
VG — apparently, problems started about a week or so ago. I think those affected plan to contact you/Jaime via Anne (e-mail). Thanks again for your efforts and response.
Oh, boy, the Path to 911 is getting pretty hot!
Scarborough is running clips for those not watching.
Ernest Bunbury @ 118
Now that’s a really really interesting experiment, and one I’d like to see. Are you a scientist, BTW?
kak, 105:
Doesn’t this include automobile exhaust?
Off on another tangent, but mechanics who specialize in fixing brakes have a higher than normal incidence of a certain kind of lung cancer putatively caused by fine powder that has accumulated in the brake drum. Brake mechanics should always wear masks but I doubt if most do.
Thanks, everyone, for your comments on this article. Most of it is taken straight from our 2004 book, Banana Republicans. When I saw the Washington Post story last night, I thought we ought to cover the parts that the Post didn’t mention, namely the government lies that created this disaster. It’s remarkable to me that ABC is running “The Path to 9/11″ with an eye to pointing fingers of blame for what happened leading up to the terrorist attack, but no one dares point fingers about the preventable disaster that happened after the terrorist attack.
Valley Girl @ 122
He is very important!
scarecrow @ 120
Scarecrow- thanks for that info. It is very helpful, because of the time frame. I don’t remember exactly when the new version of WP was implemented, but it was around that time. And it has certainly caused a lot of handwringing among moderators. Right now my two best ideas have to do with the filtering of IPs through the spam filter, and whether someone is using a proxy connection. Before your email friends contact via email, could you please ask them to try again, and see if anything has changed? I have altered something, and would like to see if that works. Thanks much. VG.
CBS is apparently running an editorial commentary by Rush Limbaugh tomorrow?
Jesus Christ, it just keeps getting worse and worse.
Oh, I have renamed “Path to 9/11″, it shall heretorfore be referred to by me as Triumph of the Shill.
-GSD
P.S. Sheldon, love your book. Thanks.
Thank you for making this excellent point, Sheldon. They will never take responsibility for any of the crimes they’ve committed.
*ilson46201 @
125
I thought anyone with the handle Ernest Bunbury was, by definition, not what they seemed. Wilde?
GSD, yeah this is the Katie Couric version of the Evening News. And to think she and Schieffer were trashing Rather the other night.
VG — will do.
orangejumpsuit @ 123
Yes.
That is one of the reasons that the Los Angeles region has such an active air quality research community (thanks everyone for paying your taxes).
After I spent a few months hanging out by one of the freeways making measurements, I thought I ought to for sure get my lung function checked.
*ilson46201 @ 125
*ilson, I am multitasking to the max. Please don’t make me cry. What are you talking about?
Sorry *ilson, sometimes I am too Earnest. Or too Wilde. FDL-induced disorder.
The Bush administration’s treatment of people adversely affected by 9/11, including public safety personnel, is an outrage. ABC should be making a documentary about that, instead of a “docudrama” full of lies.
My note to George Mitchell:
ABC’s scheduled presentation, “The Path to 9/11,” is an outrage. It is biased, one-sided, ideologically driven and just plain wrong. Why would you allow Disney to be associated with such an abomination? This program is radical, right-wing Republican propaganda. Its producers made copies available to right-wing media but not to the other side. They even refused to let President Clinton and former members of his staff see it and have an opportunity to correct the misinformation! It falsely claims to be based on the 9/11 Commission’s report, although a number of factual errors have been pointed out to its producers. It slanders President Clinton with the outrageous lie that he failed to take appropriate measures to deal with terrorism, when it is actually the Bush administration that ignored advice from the Clinton administration about taking the threat seriously. It portrays a fictional scene in which U.S. military forces are poised to capture Osama bin Laden, but are told by the Clinton White House not to do so. Its broadcast is being coordinated with the release of biased and untruthful educational materials to be used in public schools to perpetuate these lies even to our children. This is shameful, and it must stop. You have the power to prevent this outrage from occurring. Please tell ABC it has crossed over the line and that this program cannot be shown.
Senator Mitchell, I have the highest respect for you and your public service. You simply must intervene in this situation and prevent an honorable President and his administration from being slandered by the ABC television network. Many people are counting on you to do the right thing. Please take action now.
Valley Girl @ 133
Ernest Bunbury was the principal character in Oscar Wilde’s classic play “The Importance of Being Ernest”.
Spent the week so far on a crash project. The last thing I remember was reading John Dean’s comments. An observation: There are no slow news days anymore, not at FDL.
P.S. I don’t believe in an afterlife, but just in case, please let there be a special place in Hell for the people who betrayed the real heroes of 9/11 and the entire NYC/NJ area!
twolf1 @ 74
Remember Archibald Cox, Elliot Richardson, William Ruckelshaus?
Now we have people who can prosecute Martha Stewart and huddle around going psssst, and sshhhh, while they solict and cover up torture.
It’s almost too sad to own it. We won’t crawl back from this bottom.
I think the Murray Piece was another shot at Blair.
Sometimes you just wonder if any of it matters.
Thank you so much! I’ve long considered this to be one of the most important stories coming out of the travesty that is the Bush regime.
I read the draft EPA report and the WH butcher-job that was released. I was aghast. Outraged. I was SHOCKED that not a single friggin’ Democrat used this story in 2004.
This is a perfect snapshot of the regime. Putting money in front of American citizens in the most cynical, nihilistic and amoral manner possible. And then, gleefully using the “bullhorn” moment to generate more political gain.
Thank you!
I am often at a loss as to how to frame a Bush speech. The best I could come up with for one he gave today is that it is like a Russian matryushka doll of fraud within fraud.
Ostensibly, it was about Guantanamo but it really wasn’t. After calling all the detainees murderers and asserting that “rigorous” procedures had been used to assure that “those held at Guantanamo Bay belong at Guantanamo,” he lamented the fact that countries wouldn’t take back those prisoners whom the US had no intention of prosecuting or that the US had qualms about sending them back to their home countries where they might be mistreated. Somehow our mistreatment of them or the fact that countries like Great Britain, France, and even Saudi Arabia had great interest but also experienced great difficulties in repatriating their nationals seems to have gotten loss among the crocodile tears.
The speech quickly jumped on to the 14 CIA detainees, conflating their importance and evil with the more hapless saps of Guantanamo. Bush boasted at length of the information that had been obtained from them but while giving a laundry list he was remarkably short on specifics and never addressed the issue of the inherent unreliability of intelligence gathered from torture or the instances where false coerced intel had produced had supported bad decisions, like our invasion of Iraq.
But this too was a fraud because the speech was less about these al Qaeda figures and more about some major CYA. According to Bush, he wanted to protect those brave souls in the military and the intelligence agencies who were at risk for charges of war crimes, torture, and kidnapping –because they had obeyed his illegal orders. This, of course, was not his fault. No, that belonged to those who opposed the war on terror, you know, the Supreme Court.
But once again this was a fraud because Bush’s purpose was not to protect those at the bottom who had carried out his orders but rather those at the top who had formulated them. I had the feeling that Stephen Hadley must have been pissing in his pants over this.
But even this was a fraud because this situation has festered for 5 years and yet it is only now and with Congress focused on an election a mere 60 days away and with a full plate of major bills, like Defense Appropriations, that Bush decides he wants a law immunizing him, his agents, and cronies, and all within a month. How long did they expect the hearings to be on it? 15 minutes?
Maybe it’s meltdown or desperation or just accumulated fatigue from all the other screwups but even for Bush this seems lame. In the end I am left wondering whom he thinks he has persuaded or convinced or what he has accomplished with all these lies within lies.
Sorry *ilson, your spelling sux. ;)
http://www.hoboes.com/html/Fir…..e/earnest/
Scarboro just did a hatchet job on poor Kathy Harris — an hour ago, Olbermann did a better one.
Dan Abrams at M$NBC must absolutely loathe that woman !
15% of Floridians showed up at the polls. My 19 year old son went to the polls for the first time yesterday. He wasn’t on the list and couldn’t vote.
Valley Girl @ 141
ooopsies — and I have DVDs of the 2 recent film versions …
IIRC, there was no character named Bunbury. Bunbury was the name of the made-up character whom one of the real characters used as an excuse for escaping social engagements. To go “bunburying” is to escape one’s aunt to go visit “my sick friend, Bunbury,” who of course didn’t exist.
wow, the thermometer is up to $12k already
My note to all the folks on that
Kos list (got a bounce from
“steve@pixar.com”):
To Whom it may concern,
It seems clear that Twin Towers: The Path to 9/11 is a partisan
undertaking. Cyrus Nowrasteh and David Cunningham are fierce right-wing
partisans as is Thomas Kean. Notably absent from this production is anyone
associated with the left including Clinton administration officials who seem
to take most of the blame in your “Docudrama”. Important “facts” have been
disputed by people who were involved in the actual events.
In addition, advanced copies were only distributed to right-wing internet
operatives and some neutral media outlets. President Clinton was refused
a copy as was Berger and Albright.
A reasonable person would have to assume this is a politically motivated
attempt to influence an election, particularly when it will run without
advertising. Seems like a $30 million gift to the GOP. I wonder if
the FEC will see it that way, particularly if congress changes hands
this fall?
That Scholatic has produced learning materials based on anthing less than
the actual facts is truely disgusting and un-American.
If this program is played as currently slanted, I will personally
boycott every Disney/ABC/Scholastic related product and sponsor for as long as
I live (Sorry Steve, but that includes Apple. I appreciate your designs and technology,
but the health of my democracy is much more important).
I hope you are certain of your bet here as you will be treated as a pariahs
by about 50% of the population for a generation. This is not the first
questionable behavior in your company’s history (Walt Disney: Hollywood’s Dark Prince :
A Biography (Hardcover), Mel Gibson) and it may prove to be more significant than
short-term profits from the right-wing (Narnia?).
Politicizing a national tragedy is unpatriotic and sleazy. I hope you
will reconsider your path.
Sincerely,
Alex
twolf1 @ 30
Sincerely,
Richard M. Nixon
I called my son’s school today to tell them my thoughts about this sham, shameful “dramatization” of 9/11.
That is one angry bunch of folks; the school levy was voted down (again) and people are furious about their kids having to walk to school if they live within one mile of the school.
scarecrow, you are correct. Mr. Bunbury is exactly such. And, if I ever do theater again, I would like to be cast as Lady Bracknell.
Cast from link:
John Worthing, J.P.: Mr. George Alexander
Algernon Moncrieff: Mr. Allen Aynesworth.
Rev. Canon Chasuble, D.D.: Mr. H. H. Vincent.
Merriman: Mr. Frank Dyall.
Lane: Mr. F. Kinsey Peile.
Lady Bracknell: Miss Rose Leclercq.
Hon. Gwendolen Fairfax: Miss Irene Vanbrugh.
Cecily Cardew: Miss Evelyn Millard.
Miss Prism: Mrs. George Canninge.
EPU’D 2 threads back…House Dems demand accuracy in ABC’ docu drama…soon…http://www.housedemocrats.gov/news/librarydetail.cfm?library_content_id=876
http://www.housedemocrats.gov/…..ent_id=876
twolf1 @ 74
Perhaps it’s something that comes of knowing Tony Blair…a PM who has cheerfully traded conviction and principle for toadying at every turn. Thankfully, I don’t know Tony Blair, but I’ll take their word on it.
Mary, if you are still here. Did you happen to see the Lehrer News Hour? They had Eugene Fidell of the Institute of Military Justice and Brad Berenson, Former Associate White House Counsel as guests to discuss Bush’s latest move on the trials. Here is the text, about half-way down the page:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb…..09-06.html
The reason they lied about the air quality is they wanted the evidence removed pronto. If it was a severe hazard to humans they entire area would have had to be quarantined… and the financial district would be shut down.
Remember they wanted everything back to normal and everyone shopping to prove that america was not defeated.
Alex– Disney was also kinda, sorta in trouble for Pocahantas, Aladdin, Mulan, Anastasia, and the sequel to Pirates of the Caribbean by some groups, but the Co. and the public at large issued a collective “never mind.”
PS– nice letter :)
TeddySanFran @ 103
Oh, Joe’s plenty corrupt. Apparently, the problem is just that he’s equally disloyal to anybody but himself.
Hugh,
This is in effect the same election year hijinks as the “authorization for the use of military force.”
They want to push this bill quickly through with no scrutiny and then use it as a club before and after the election.
How come we don’t hear the term “wag the dog” used anymore?
-GSD
Margot- ET had a great comment earlier. http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-280428
Ed*ard Teller @
124
GSD @ 127
That’s some damned fine, multilayered snark.
FYI. Just noticed a new Rove thread.
CNN Bush lying again, “we do not torture. I have not authorized it and I will not authorize it.”
Thanks, VG. I’m getting into my autumn snooze mode and it’s hard to get moving, much less hassle the right people.
(Anyone else have the winter blues as soon as the sun clicks one notch past a certain angle? God, it hits me like a hammer. Have to go find the Vita-Lites again.)
neurophius @ 161
As they have been defining torture as treatment resulting in organ failure or death, the more accurate statement would be: We don’t torture . . . much.
ccmask @
6
Which end? Ouch!
Bush lied. Even in 2001, I coulda told you “duh”. I coulda told you in 1995, when he became my governor. They say whatever they think they need to say, and they think they can get away with. That’s all. I think there is some sort of mental/emotional retardation going on there. Still, I hope they suffer horribly for many lifetimes for what they have done.
Besides, anyone with a lick of sense would have known that ground zero should have been a superfund site – no need for the EPA on that one. The denials in the media merely told me how pervasive the corruption in this society is.
Does anybody know about this?
Liver problems too, from trying to metabolize stuffs that just ain’t meant to be metabolized?
*the smoker nods grimly*
You can get almost anything to react with almost anything, all it takes is enough energy… and there was SCADS of energy available to the witches’ brew of complex molecules in all that pulverized building material/electrical and computer equipment/Dog only knows what else just waiting for the activation energy to do something frothy. -_-
StealthBadger @ 167
Don’t know if you’ll see this, but absolutely — there are many more target organs than just the lungs.
There is a great magazine published by the FDNY. It is called WNYF (With New York Firemen). It is published 4x’s a year and the link provided below is for the subscription. You can also order back subscriptions. I recommend the Sept. 2001 issue. In it are snapshots of every fireman who perished on Sept. 11. It is very sad. As people were climbing down the stairs, a good many of these men were passing them on the staircases going up with a hundred pounds of equipment on their backs.
These are the men that didn’t ask anyone what “party” they belonged to before they entered the building. These are the men who didn’t hide on that fateful day. And as the occupants of the White House were running out of the building, due to reports of white plumes emmanating from the WH, the folks in the towers were told to go back to their offices…
Anyway, a great way to contribute to the firemen is to buy a year subsciption.
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/h…..fsubs.html
I’m glad to see so many people people rightfully outraged about this.
You should also be outraged by the fact 9/11 was an inside job and by the fact that the WTC towers were brought down by demolition. We were lied to on many, many levels.
From the first moment after 911 Republicans have used National security as an excuse to cover for anything…so when you take that cloud away, here is why they lied to the people of New York – they wanted to open Wall Street.
http://www.nycosh.org/UPDATE/v…..ticleid=92
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3076626
Any person who would believe that dust from construction and demolition rubble was “safe” is just plain….
I’m sorry to be the one to point this out (gee, am I the first?) but C&D dust would never be safe to breathe. Never. Ever. I’m a nobody with a basic high-school education and even I am aware of that.
Some volunteers may have said to themselves, “The hell with trying to get a mask, I need to help.” A hero-like thing to do.
But we cannot treat the “heros of the day” as some kind of magical beings who were “failed by politicians” in this case.
Yeah, the EPA apparently did say, “it is safe,” but nobody with an average education should have believed it. There should have been outrage then, and not just now.
But implying that only the politicians could have “saved” these people’s lungs is pretty sickening. Should people only rely on the politicians for what to think?