Comments on: Kitchen Table Politics http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/ Firedoglake weblog Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:13:34 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Median Income - Bad Data Alert « Creative Destruction http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-284168 Median Income - Bad Data Alert « Creative Destruction Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:55:01 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-284168 <p>[…] Yesterday I posted the above map, and I see that many lefty bloggers have done the same. However, as Jane Galt points out, the data behind the map was put together very poorly, and the statistics given on the map have little validity. (Thanks to Nobody.Really, who pointed out Jane’s post in comments). […]</p> […] Yesterday I posted the above map, and I see that many lefty bloggers have done the same. However, as Jane Galt points out, the data behind the map was put together very poorly, and the statistics given on the map have little validity. (Thanks to Nobody.Really, who pointed out Jane’s post in comments). […]

]]> By: Alas, a blog » Blog Archive » Median Income - Bad Data Alert http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-284165 Alas, a blog » Blog Archive » Median Income - Bad Data Alert Fri, 08 Sep 2006 18:53:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-284165 <p>[…] Yesterday I posted the above map, and I see that many lefty bloggers have done the same. However, as Jane Galt points out, the data behind the map was put together very poorly, and the statistics given on the map have little validity. (Thanks to Nobody.Really, who pointed out Jane’s post in comments). […]</p> […] Yesterday I posted the above map, and I see that many lefty bloggers have done the same. However, as Jane Galt points out, the data behind the map was put together very poorly, and the statistics given on the map have little validity. (Thanks to Nobody.Really, who pointed out Jane’s post in comments). […]

]]> By: TinT http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279788 TinT Wed, 06 Sep 2006 02:19:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279788 <p><a href="#comment-279269"><em>gladlythecrosseyedbear @<br /> 89 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Christy, this past weekend i went to a family reunion that was held at salt sulphur springs near union — it was fun being surrounded by fellow democrats</p> <p>the democratic party needs to help ease the regulatory, tax & paperwork burdens placed on owners of small businesses, who happen to be the ones that create jobs</p> <p>big corporations don’t create jobs & they can afford to lobby, thus gaining an outsized advantage & undermining the free market</p> <p>unions don’t create jobs either</p> <p>churches have an unfair advantage too, in that some church organizations go into business & compete with taxpaying businesses — as beautiful as some church farms or businesses may look, they’re taking away jobs because by not paying taxes they’re misallocating public funds that taxpayers would otherwise be able to put to better use in a free market</p></blockquote> <p>I visited my late husband’s family in Ronceverte and Second Creek this weekend. The Greenbriar area is one of my favorite places on earth.</p> gladlythecrosseyedbear @
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Christy, this past weekend i went to a family reunion that was held at salt sulphur springs near union — it was fun being surrounded by fellow democrats

the democratic party needs to help ease the regulatory, tax & paperwork burdens placed on owners of small businesses, who happen to be the ones that create jobs

big corporations don’t create jobs & they can afford to lobby, thus gaining an outsized advantage & undermining the free market

unions don’t create jobs either

churches have an unfair advantage too, in that some church organizations go into business & compete with taxpaying businesses — as beautiful as some church farms or businesses may look, they’re taking away jobs because by not paying taxes they’re misallocating public funds that taxpayers would otherwise be able to put to better use in a free market

I visited my late husband’s family in Ronceverte and Second Creek this weekend. The Greenbriar area is one of my favorite places on earth.

]]> By: A.Citizen http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279632 A.Citizen Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:17:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279632 <p>You ‘nasty’, ‘uncivil’ bloggers just don’t understand. Republicans are all about the Jeebus cult, suffer on earth in return for an imaginary reward after yer worm-food, and the ‘family’, did you see the dKos post on the 40 or so ReThugs indicted for sex crimes against children. Had to love the lurker who whined: ‘were are the Democrats who did these horrible things…’ and the diarist replied: ‘Googled for half an hour…couldn’t find but one or two Democrats accused of such…’</p> <p>So you see some factions of the American sheeple, Fred Fundie and Goober from Georgia, are ready to eat an infinite amount of shit as long as the President is a ‘Christian Man’. </p> <p>Or at least as long as he says he is……</p> <p>We find ourselves in very similar situation as folks did in the 1890s….</p> <p>That gave birth to the Progressive Movement, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and ultimately the conservative’s Great Satan: FDR.</p> <p>We can do as well.</p> <p>Let’s get active.</p> You ‘nasty’, ‘uncivil’ bloggers just don’t understand. Republicans are all about the Jeebus cult, suffer on earth in return for an imaginary reward after yer worm-food, and the ‘family’, did you see the dKos post on the 40 or so ReThugs indicted for sex crimes against children. Had to love the lurker who whined: ‘were are the Democrats who did these horrible things…’ and the diarist replied: ‘Googled for half an hour…couldn’t find but one or two Democrats accused of such…’

So you see some factions of the American sheeple, Fred Fundie and Goober from Georgia, are ready to eat an infinite amount of shit as long as the President is a ‘Christian Man’.

Or at least as long as he says he is……

We find ourselves in very similar situation as folks did in the 1890s….

That gave birth to the Progressive Movement, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and ultimately the conservative’s Great Satan: FDR.

We can do as well.

Let’s get active.

]]> By: Guitar Playing Bastard http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279631 Guitar Playing Bastard Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:17:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279631 <p><a href="http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaManager/Lieberman2.htm">Read this NOW!</a></p> <p>Joe is a REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</p> <p>WRITE YOUR DEMOCRATIC SENATORS! Do NOT take this lying down!</p> Read this NOW!

Joe is a REPUBLICAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WRITE YOUR DEMOCRATIC SENATORS! Do NOT take this lying down!

]]> By: webecelts http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279606 webecelts Wed, 06 Sep 2006 00:05:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279606 <p>I am all for free trade,but,99% of all cars in Korea are Korean, 95% of all cars in Japan are Japanese, Wal Mart closed stores in Japan and Korea, they were not profitable, I guess the asians dont understand the benefits of ‘free trade”. And we wonder why Michigan and other Manufacturing states are in trouble.</p> I am all for free trade,but,99% of all cars in Korea are Korean, 95% of all cars in Japan are Japanese, Wal Mart closed stores in Japan and Korea, they were not profitable, I guess the asians dont understand the benefits of ‘free trade”. And we wonder why Michigan and other Manufacturing states are in trouble.

]]> By: EvilDrPuma http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279503 EvilDrPuma Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:56:28 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279503 <p><a href="#comment-279362"><em>scarecrow @ 99 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>How can anyone even have a conversation with someone this dishonest?</p></blockquote> <p>One can’t. The reason to speak is not to converse with the likes of Snow, but to try to be heard in spite of him.</p> scarecrow @ 99

How can anyone even have a conversation with someone this dishonest?

One can’t. The reason to speak is not to converse with the likes of Snow, but to try to be heard in spite of him.

]]> By: AZ Matt http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279416 AZ Matt Tue, 05 Sep 2006 22:00:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279416 <p>Working in a place of 50% unemployment that has seen many broken promises it is kind of strange watching over the last few years many Americans buying into the Bush agenda. It seems to be the promise of you can live the American Dream on a Wal-Mart salary. I watch people struggle here on the Indian Reservation trying to make ends meet and many have never had what most consider the American Dream. It is all relative.</p> <p>The youth here leave after turning 18, sometimes with a diploma, sometimes not, and take their dreams elsewhere. In many small rural places the same thing happens, the young ones leave if they can and their hometowns suffer for it. The policies of this administration drag down most everyone, urban and rural. Three dollar gas and young people dying in Iraq. A dirtier environment and a crappier health system. Fear and more fear and encouraging us to hate a large part of the world. Bushworld in all its gory glory. Give me JFK and optimism anytime.</p> Working in a place of 50% unemployment that has seen many broken promises it is kind of strange watching over the last few years many Americans buying into the Bush agenda. It seems to be the promise of you can live the American Dream on a Wal-Mart salary. I watch people struggle here on the Indian Reservation trying to make ends meet and many have never had what most consider the American Dream. It is all relative.

The youth here leave after turning 18, sometimes with a diploma, sometimes not, and take their dreams elsewhere. In many small rural places the same thing happens, the young ones leave if they can and their hometowns suffer for it. The policies of this administration drag down most everyone, urban and rural. Three dollar gas and young people dying in Iraq. A dirtier environment and a crappier health system. Fear and more fear and encouraging us to hate a large part of the world. Bushworld in all its gory glory. Give me JFK and optimism anytime.

]]> By: Christy Hardin Smith http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279381 Christy Hardin Smith Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:38:46 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279381 <p>scarecrow at 95 — shorter Tony Snow:</p> <p>“Some people would like us to follow the laws as they are written. We’ve decided to ignore the laws and demonize anyone who would remind us or you of them.”</p> <p>L’etat c’est moi.</p> scarecrow at 95 — shorter Tony Snow:

“Some people would like us to follow the laws as they are written. We’ve decided to ignore the laws and demonize anyone who would remind us or you of them.”

L’etat c’est moi.

]]> By: scarecrow http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279362 scarecrow Tue, 05 Sep 2006 21:18:56 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/09/05/kitchen-table-politics/#comment-279362 <p>How not to unite the country around your policies. This is from Tony Snow at a recent WH presser.</p> <blockquote><p>There have been some in the Democratic Party who have argued against the Patriot Act, against the terror surveillance program, against Guantanamo. In other words, there are some people who say that we shouldn’t fight the war, we should not detain — we shouldn’t apprehend al Qaeda, we shouldn’t detain al Qaeda, we shouldn’t question al Qaeda, and we shouldn’t listen to al Qaeda. In other words, they’re all for winning the war on terror, but they’re all against — they’re against providing the tools for winning that war.</p></blockquote> <p>How can anyone even have a conversation with someone this dishonest?</p> <p>The quote is from Editor and Publisher, linked at HuffPo:</p> <p><a href="http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003087485">http://www.editorandpublisher......1003087485</a></p> How not to unite the country around your policies. This is from Tony Snow at a recent WH presser.

There have been some in the Democratic Party who have argued against the Patriot Act, against the terror surveillance program, against Guantanamo. In other words, there are some people who say that we shouldn’t fight the war, we should not detain — we shouldn’t apprehend al Qaeda, we shouldn’t detain al Qaeda, we shouldn’t question al Qaeda, and we shouldn’t listen to al Qaeda. In other words, they’re all for winning the war on terror, but they’re all against — they’re against providing the tools for winning that war.

How can anyone even have a conversation with someone this dishonest?

The quote is from Editor and Publisher, linked at HuffPo:

http://www.editorandpublisher……1003087485

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