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		<title>By: Ron Russell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278677</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 06:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree with numerous folks who say that Joe’s blog will be a trap.  Here’s what I’d like to see all of us do:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Periodically lurk at the blog, to read what’s going on–BUT DO NOT POST ANYTHING THERE!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Come back to FDL, quote what you find offensive and then rebut it here.   &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If Jane has us all pledge to “not say mean things or comment at all on Joe’s blog”, then all “Lieber- so-called-victims” can attack are others, but not FDL and those who are part of this community.  We could even make a big stink of avoiding Lieberman’s blog, “because we fear the inevitable black flag operation from the Lieberman campaign”.  FDL could even have a special daily section on “&lt;b&gt;the bs being strewn at Joe’s site&lt;/b&gt;“.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;And the first time a Joeshill reports something contrary to it on the MSM, we could hit back hard and honestly say:  “Not us and we don’t trust Lieberman enough to comment there!”  Then go on to reiterate that it’s impossible to have a debate with them, without their trying to paint themselves as a victim. Then get the same thing set up on Kos, Next Hurrah, etc.  Someone should also get a message to Ned’s blog to do the same.  Lieberman doesn’t deserve civil discourse and will only twist it to his advantage, regardless of the fact that they are wrong!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Better to give Loserman the cold shoulder, than to give him any fodder at all.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with numerous folks who say that Joe’s blog will be a trap.  Here’s what I’d like to see all of us do:</p>
<p>Periodically lurk at the blog, to read what’s going on–BUT DO NOT POST ANYTHING THERE!</p>
<p>Come back to FDL, quote what you find offensive and then rebut it here.   </p>
<p>If Jane has us all pledge to “not say mean things or comment at all on Joe’s blog”, then all “Lieber- so-called-victims” can attack are others, but not FDL and those who are part of this community.  We could even make a big stink of avoiding Lieberman’s blog, “because we fear the inevitable black flag operation from the Lieberman campaign”.  FDL could even have a special daily section on “<b>the bs being strewn at Joe’s site</b>“.</p>
<p>And the first time a Joeshill reports something contrary to it on the MSM, we could hit back hard and honestly say:  “Not us and we don’t trust Lieberman enough to comment there!”  Then go on to reiterate that it’s impossible to have a debate with them, without their trying to paint themselves as a victim. Then get the same thing set up on Kos, Next Hurrah, etc.  Someone should also get a message to Ned’s blog to do the same.  Lieberman doesn’t deserve civil discourse and will only twist it to his advantage, regardless of the fact that they are wrong!</p>
<p>Better to give Loserman the cold shoulder, than to give him any fodder at all.</p>
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		<title>By: carolyn urban</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278429</link>
		<dc:creator>carolyn urban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 03:02:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;egregious, are you still around?  You were responding to oilfieldguy who said something about people who lurk on this site and you said ya like Patrick Leahy’s son.  Eeek!  (loosely quoting).  What did that mean?  I’m really curious.  What was the eeek about?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>egregious, are you still around?  You were responding to oilfieldguy who said something about people who lurk on this site and you said ya like Patrick Leahy’s son.  Eeek!  (loosely quoting).  What did that mean?  I’m really curious.  What was the eeek about?</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278376</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-278211&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Shez @ 143 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;The new Joe’s Blog Tourist Trap is just that, it needs to be avoided like the plague. Yes it needs to be monitored by a few individuals, the less the better, but I’m refusing to link to it, visit it, or give it any site meter traffic whatsoever. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Think of it as:&lt;br /&gt;
“Lieberman &lt;b&gt;blogs&lt;/b&gt; alone as former allies surround Lamont”&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Isn’t it interesting how, only a month ago, Lieberman didn’t give enough of a damn about a Web presence to pay for real bandwidth, and now he’s trying to navigate the Blogosphere?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I don’t know what’s funnier, the obvious attempt to cash in on one of Lamont’s bigger advantages so late in the game, or the notion that Holy Joe wants us to think he’s suddenly interested in communication.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-278211"><em>Shez @ 143 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>The new Joe’s Blog Tourist Trap is just that, it needs to be avoided like the plague. Yes it needs to be monitored by a few individuals, the less the better, but I’m refusing to link to it, visit it, or give it any site meter traffic whatsoever. </p>
<p>Think of it as:<br />
“Lieberman <b>blogs</b> alone as former allies surround Lamont”</p>
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<p>Isn’t it interesting how, only a month ago, Lieberman didn’t give enough of a damn about a Web presence to pay for real bandwidth, and now he’s trying to navigate the Blogosphere?</p>
<p>I don’t know what’s funnier, the obvious attempt to cash in on one of Lamont’s bigger advantages so late in the game, or the notion that Holy Joe wants us to think he’s suddenly interested in communication.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278366</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-278156&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;truthteller06 @ 91 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;All in all, it was a fantastic day for Joe Lieberman.  It affirmed that when it comes to real people, they’re lining up and marching behind Joe.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;…thereby taking their assigned place in the power relationship Joe knows so well.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;You’re a funny, funny guy.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-278156"><em>truthteller06 @ 91 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>All in all, it was a fantastic day for Joe Lieberman.  It affirmed that when it comes to real people, they’re lining up and marching behind Joe.</p>
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<p>…thereby taking their assigned place in the power relationship Joe knows so well.</p>
<p>You’re a funny, funny guy.</p>
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		<title>By: *ilson46201</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278365</link>
		<dc:creator>*ilson46201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:09:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.DumpJoe2006.com&quot;&gt;www.DumpJoe2006.com&lt;/a&gt; is working now !&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.DumpJoe2006.com">http://www.DumpJoe2006.com</a> is working now !</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278359</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:07:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-278145&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;cleter @ 80 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;You know, I’m beginning to suspect Lieberman is a…a…jackass. Can I say jackass? ‘Cause Lieberman truly is a total jackass.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I can accept that he’s a jackass, as long as nobody tries to tell me he’s a Democrat.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-278145"><em>cleter @ 80 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>You know, I’m beginning to suspect Lieberman is a…a…jackass. Can I say jackass? ‘Cause Lieberman truly is a total jackass.</p>
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<p>I can accept that he’s a jackass, as long as nobody tries to tell me he’s a Democrat.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278355</link>
		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-278131&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Hugh @ 67 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Average price for regular gasoline 9/4/06 in 50 states and DC&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;$3.00 plus   6 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.90 plus   9 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.80 plus   6 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.70 plus 11 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.60 plus 13 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.50 plus   5 states&lt;br /&gt;
$2.40 plus   1 state&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Average national price:  $2.740, down $.050 from 9/1/06&lt;br /&gt;
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057  9/5/2005&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Highest average price: Hawaii $3.334&lt;br /&gt;
Lowest average price:  Ohio $2.473&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I happened to be in the vicinity of a television tuned to CNN today, and was pleased to see it reported that gasoline prices had doubled in the last four years. Reporting the in such terms hurts any Bushco/Big Oil attempt to win votes by lowering prices in the much shorter term, and four years is too little to make it worthwhile to play the Blame the Clenis card. For a minute, I wasn’t sure I was actually watching a cable news channel.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-278131"><em>Hugh @ 67 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Average price for regular gasoline 9/4/06 in 50 states and DC</p>
<p>$3.00 plus   6 states<br />
$2.90 plus   9 states<br />
$2.80 plus   6 states<br />
$2.70 plus 11 states<br />
$2.60 plus 13 states<br />
$2.50 plus   5 states<br />
$2.40 plus   1 state</p>
<p>Average national price:  $2.740, down $.050 from 9/1/06<br />
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057  9/5/2005</p>
<p>Highest average price: Hawaii $3.334<br />
Lowest average price:  Ohio $2.473</p>
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<p>I happened to be in the vicinity of a television tuned to CNN today, and was pleased to see it reported that gasoline prices had doubled in the last four years. Reporting the in such terms hurts any Bushco/Big Oil attempt to win votes by lowering prices in the much shorter term, and four years is too little to make it worthwhile to play the Blame the Clenis card. For a minute, I wasn’t sure I was actually watching a cable news channel.</p>
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		<title>By: dab from CT</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278351</link>
		<dc:creator>dab from CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 02:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;RevDeb - I was there and saw CTBob. I would have loved to have met you and scarecrow. I too thought it was a strange crowd. I was right in Lieberman’s path on his way up the hill before the parade started. I thought the Lamont campaign showed a lot of class by asking that no one say anything negative to Lieberman as he walked by (it took a lot of self-restraint). &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regarding reactions - I did the same parade in 2004 with with the Kerry folks and had a lot of people on the side lines banging their flip flops together (remember the Republican convention) and a few shouted that they were Zell Miller Dems. Newtown is a very Republican town. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;By the way, is “truthteller06″ for real? Must have attended a very different parade than I did. A good day for Lieberman? Gee, if that was a good day…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RevDeb &#8211; I was there and saw CTBob. I would have loved to have met you and scarecrow. I too thought it was a strange crowd. I was right in Lieberman’s path on his way up the hill before the parade started. I thought the Lamont campaign showed a lot of class by asking that no one say anything negative to Lieberman as he walked by (it took a lot of self-restraint). </p>
<p>Regarding reactions &#8211; I did the same parade in 2004 with with the Kerry folks and had a lot of people on the side lines banging their flip flops together (remember the Republican convention) and a few shouted that they were Zell Miller Dems. Newtown is a very Republican town. </p>
<p>By the way, is “truthteller06″ for real? Must have attended a very different parade than I did. A good day for Lieberman? Gee, if that was a good day…</p>
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		<title>By: phoebes</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/09/04/i-love-a-parade-2/#comment-278314</link>
		<dc:creator>phoebes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:32:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-278279&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;phoebes @&lt;br /&gt;
                180              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I’m a little confused about the site moderation. I’ve been coming here for six or so months, and while not contributing to every thread, I do read and generally agree with what is written by all the contributors.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;However, last evening, on a thread that was NOT the John Dean book thread, I put in a joking comment about Dean and Christopher Shays looking just alike. It was not a mean-spirited comment - in fact, I think they’re both handsome men (I like balding men).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;When I pulled up the thread this morning, my comment had been pulled with something about “topic”. I was astounded - and offended. If it was a “frivalous” remark, it was certainly no more frivalous than most of the comments on these threads. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I’d like to know why I was censored. I AM a good, hardworking Democrat!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;~~~ Moderator comment:  phoebes, I am the moderator responsible to editing that comment.  And, I have given my “mea culpa behind the scenes.  You are absolutely correct that it was not on the Book Salon Thread.  However, as I was trying to watch a bunch of comments at that time, and there had been a lot of off topic stuff before, I misread which thread it was on.  Things often get really crazy here behind the scenes, and mistakes are made.  This was one of them.  My deepest apologies.~~&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Oh, Moderator, thanks for explaining! I really thought I might be banned and I do love FDL and the sense of a Democratic “community” it has developed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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<blockquote><p>I’m a little confused about the site moderation. I’ve been coming here for six or so months, and while not contributing to every thread, I do read and generally agree with what is written by all the contributors.</p>
<p>However, last evening, on a thread that was NOT the John Dean book thread, I put in a joking comment about Dean and Christopher Shays looking just alike. It was not a mean-spirited comment &#8211; in fact, I think they’re both handsome men (I like balding men).</p>
<p>When I pulled up the thread this morning, my comment had been pulled with something about “topic”. I was astounded &#8211; and offended. If it was a “frivalous” remark, it was certainly no more frivalous than most of the comments on these threads. </p>
<p>Anyway, I’d like to know why I was censored. I AM a good, hardworking Democrat!</p>
<p>~~~ Moderator comment:  phoebes, I am the moderator responsible to editing that comment.  And, I have given my “mea culpa behind the scenes.  You are absolutely correct that it was not on the Book Salon Thread.  However, as I was trying to watch a bunch of comments at that time, and there had been a lot of off topic stuff before, I misread which thread it was on.  Things often get really crazy here behind the scenes, and mistakes are made.  This was one of them.  My deepest apologies.~~</p>
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<p>Oh, Moderator, thanks for explaining! I really thought I might be banned and I do love FDL and the sense of a Democratic “community” it has developed.</p>
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		<title>By: dab from CT</title>
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		<dc:creator>dab from CT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Sep 2006 01:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;He has. I was there in Danbury today. He talked about many things besides the war. However, the MSM insists on focusing on that issue alone, because they are lazy and that’s what sells.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Ned is doing a good job of discussing issues that are important to Connecticut - like fiscal responsibility and homeland security (there are five nuclear power plants in CT).&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So - don’t believe everything you read in the papers or see on CNN.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He has. I was there in Danbury today. He talked about many things besides the war. However, the MSM insists on focusing on that issue alone, because they are lazy and that’s what sells.</p>
<p>Ned is doing a good job of discussing issues that are important to Connecticut &#8211; like fiscal responsibility and homeland security (there are five nuclear power plants in CT).</p>
<p>So &#8211; don’t believe everything you read in the papers or see on CNN.</p>
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