
In an awkward pivot from Bush's failed Katrina response anniversary, the President tries to drum up support for additional wars with Iran and Syria, heading toward the 9/11 anniversary, while stuck in the Iraqi debacle. Some choice excerpts of his speech on August 31, 2006.
The enemies of liberty come from different parts of the world, and they take inspiration from different sources. Some are radicalized followers of the Sunni tradition, who swear allegiance to terrorist organizations like al Qaeda. Others are radicalized followers of the Shia tradition, who join groups like Hezbollah and take guidance from state sponsors like Syria and Iran. Still others are "homegrown" terrorists -- fanatics who live quietly in free societies they dream to destroy. Despite their differences, these groups from -- form the outlines of a single movement, a worldwide network of radicals that use terror to kill those who stand in the way of their totalitarian ideology.
Okay. We have a worldwide boogeyman but the big ol' fat bullseye is painted on Iran and Syria.
Second, we have made it clear to all nations, if you harbor terrorists, you are just as guilty as the terrorists; you're an enemy of the United States, and you will be held to account.
He has done so well with Iraq, now he wants to expand the war. And he will.
The Iranian regime arms, funds, and advises Hezbollah, which has killed more Americans than any terrorist network except al Qaeda. The Iranian regime interferes in Iraq by sponsoring terrorists and insurgents, empowering unlawful militias, and supplying components for improvised explosive devices. The Iranian regime denies basic human rights to millions of its people. And the Iranian regime is pursuing nuclear weapons in open defiance of its international obligations.
Like a gambler on a losing streak, Bush insists on doubling down. His administrations complete failure on the GWOT seeks to pick bigger fights with larger nations and even more dangerous adventures. Using new buzzwords like fascism, nazi, and Hitler, they are pandering to the warporn wing of the country, nastier images are required to achieve erection and gratification.
This administration will generate more wars. It is what they do, even if very badly. To stop them, Democrats must undertake a blistering assault on their warmaking. I'll pass some ammunition.
Half of the people in Iraq are under eighteen, according to UNICEF. I wonder where their parents are and if they are enjoying their freedoms from them? Are the policies of this administration reducing the ranks of terrorists or increasing them?
The number of terrorist attacks worldwide increased nearly fourfold in 2005 to 11,111, with strikes in Iraq accounting for 30 percent of the total, according to statistics released by U.S. counterterrorism officials yesterday.
Does this make anyone feel safer? Not a very good track record coming from the Daddy party. This current track of escalating wars is doomed to fail for two very basic reasons. First of all, when someone is killed, usually it makes someone else upset that they lost their friend or family member. And maybe it pisses off several people. Some have been known to strike back indiscriminately, especially if the death of their friend or loved one was senseless. The Bush Doctrine, for this reason, is a terrorist multiplier.
The second reason it is doomed for failure is that a fella needs to work. When war comes to town, it sorta makes it hard to find a job, and soldiering is about the only game in town. And clearly Bush does not get these two points, even as simple as he is. Bush wants war, so the Democrats must give him one. Never explain, never defend, always attack. Keith Olbermann shows us how it's done.
The man who sees absolutes, where all other men see nuances and shades of meaning, is either a prophet, or a quack. Donald H. Rumsfeld is not a prophet.
Mr. Rumsfeld’s remarkable speech to the American Legion yesterday demands the deep analysis—and the sober contemplation—of every American.For it did not merely serve to impugn the morality or intelligence -- indeed, the loyalty -- of the majority of Americans who oppose the transient occupants of the highest offices in the land. Worse, still, it credits those same transient occupants -- our employees -- with a total omniscience; a total omniscience which neither common sense, nor this administration’s track record at home or abroad, suggests they deserve.
Two words: K. O.
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The New York Times endorses Hillary Clinton in the Democratic primary for senator.
23? Busted!
OFG!
I thought chimpy’s speech was ominous…
Some are radicalized followers of the Sunni tradition, who swear allegiance to terrorist organizations like al Qaeda. Others are radicalized followers of the Shia tradition, who join groups like Hezbollah and take guidance from state sponsors like Syria and Iran.
It’s so good to see that Dubya finally knows the difference between Sunni and Shia.
ccmask @
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Breaking! Breaking! Dog bites man! story at 11 !
The enemy is…us.
Slightly OT fly-by, but further on the agenda of the Bushies: flag burning.
Watch Skinheads USA: Soldiers of the Race War on A&E, and then tell me who the flag-burners are. It’s not the liberals and peace activists.
It’s the White Supremist skinheads, hating the Jew flag and burning crosses…it’s the Republican base. No wonder all those Rethug Congresscritters think there’s so much flag burning going on…they just look around their ‘hoods…
Props tonight to the working men and women of America. The true heroes of the day. Happy weekend everyone. Keep movin’ the small stones.
Thanks to Jane and Christy and Pach and TRex and the mods and posters…you’re my heroes too.
OFG: We are going to be subjected to so many more of them Bush speeches before 9/11/2006. I don’t know if I can read any more of them. Especially since so many cowards are distancing themselves away from him.
OFG, your metaphor of Bush as gambler is so apt. Trouble is there are smart gamblers and there are dumb gamblers. Doubling down in Bush’s position, with his chip stack beginning to look pretty wan, is dumb, dumb, dumb.
So why does he do it? Because that’s the way he has always played. He always leaves his mess for somebody else to clean up.
Nothing new here, move along now.
was this posted before?
How will Bush rev up his supporters into coming to the polls? Expect to hear the war drums on Iran.
if so, sorry :)
Don’t forget Bush’s trifecta.
I’m glad he’s got Sunni and Shi’ia separated, but I want to see him tackle Badr Brigade, and al-Sadr and the Mahdi militia – and he left out Hamas, and the brotherly guys in Egypt and …
OT from below thread –
VG – I have a comment that I tried to leave below thread that may be trapped in moderation. If you find it, let me know - it explains the laptop stuff a bit more. If not, I’ll try again from this connection.
Opium:
Risen’s book has a section about the Opium fields and a youngish Rep guy who really tried hard to make the case to Bush and who got a little assist from Powell right before Powell left. Rumsfeld cratered the concept of taking significant steps to curtail he crops, according to Risen’s source. This despite the fact that Bush gave the Rep a rousing “I won’t support a narco State” speech.
So Bush has turned everyone in the world into a boogeyman in order to reinforce the only language he knows - war. He never thinks to talk or to reason or to negotiate, only to threaten and blame and bomb. To think that on September 11th we had the world join with us in grief and resolve, only to wake up today to such ridicule and scorn, it’s just staggering. And with each passing day, I feel more left and radical and progressive in comparison.
Listening to Bill Winters today was really something. Spit it out!
orangejumpsuit @ 10
He’s also learned his gambling with someone else always covering his bets. Every single one of his “business enterprises” ended up with a bailout of one kind or another, until Rove got him into the Guv’s mansion in TX and the White House in DC.
Now he’s gambling with not just other people’s money but other people’s lives as well.
Dear Mr. Bush, You should finish the two wars on your plate before you start another. Ask your Daddy.
ccmask @ 2
The Times endorsement of Clinton is expectant. Anyone who’s in favor of the Senator’s re-election, it would seem, must support the Bush murderous Middle East policies. I haven’t noticed the NY Times calling for a pull-out from Iraq timetable.
Bush seems to have only one problem in his mind. How to boost his presidency rating…
Oklahoma: The story just popped up on Yahoo but it’s behind the great wall.
This afternoon, my neighbor, a life-long Republican, who had a Bush-Cheney lawn sign in front of her house this time two years ago, told me she would allow me (a registered Dem.) to complete her absentee ballot for her this Nov.
She sounded for all the world like she’d HAD ENOUGH.
There’s a change in the wind.
OFG!!!
Another winner and the perfect analogy … wow!
A related curiosity. A couple of years, there was a study published (sorry, can’t remember the source) that looked at decision-making–which people did well at it, which people did not.
What was found was that there was a sub-group of the people who made bad decisions who were very good at getting others to accept their poor reasoning and getting support for bad ideas, and they were the people in companies that spread disaster wherever they went.
They had one major characteristic in common–they weren’t bright enough to actually assess all aspects of a difficult situation and devise solutions–but, they had the ability to convince people marginally less intelligent than they that they were geniuses. They actually had a talent for getting other people to do things that would get those people in trouble.
Sound familiar?
montag @ 22
Good Lord, yes! I think you just described me perfectly.
OT: Every time I see a story like this before Election Day, my foil hat makes me wonder if they are rounding up the Democrat votes?
More Than 750 Suspected Criminals Arrested In North Tampa
Skip directly to the full story.
By KEITH MORELLI The Tampa Tribune
Published: Aug 30, 2006
TAMPA - Forty-eight deputies from across the county infiltrated the streets of Suitcase City during the past 45 days and busted hundreds of suspected muggers, thugs and thieves.
http://tbo.com/news/email/MGBK10S6HRE.html
750 x $40,000 a year to incarcerate….pretty good catch!
We have to peel away the rhetorical layers and expose the lunacy that Bush’s speeches - and those of the rest of the usual suspects - are signalling.
Iraq was never the problem. Saddam was a badass, but he was a contained badass. Some psycho bubblehead in the administration apparently thought that “taking down” Saddam would be as easy as that country-singer who put a tame and generally defenseless bear in a cage so he could shoot him for sport.
Afghanistan was a problem, one that might be a real success story if we had left enough of a force behind to counter the inevitable rise of the Taliban from the ashes of the original engagement.
Saudi Arabia is a problem, one that goes unaddressed because of Bush-family ties and the whole oil thing. It is no coincidence that most of the 9/11 hijackers came out of Saudi Arabia - a wholly repressive regime.
No one in the administration must have reviewed any history, must not have studied the Brits’ long and unsuccessful occupation for any clues as to what problems we would face there. How can you ignore the truth of history in favor of manipulated intelligence and expect success? It would be like me setting my scale back 10 pounds to convince myself I’ve lost weight, when a mere look in the mirror or being unable to zip my jeans would tell me the truth. “Oh, no - I HAVE lost weight - the scale tells me that, so pay no attention to how I look!”
There was no central front in the war on terror - that’s the insidious nature of terrorism. It’s not state-based, so a policy that any country that “harbors” terrorists must be held to account means that there is no country in the world that is safe from US attack - including, probably, this country, whose open borders and lax security allowed terrorists to live among us with little fear.
No one is looking to appease terrorists, but perhaps the Bush administration needs to see, as often as possible, the photos of Rumsfeld glad-handing Saddam back in the day, to remind them that one person’s appeasement is another’s playing both ends against the middle.
How would the average American - the working folks with kids and mortgages and bills - feel about eliminating the massive tax cuts for the wealthy, and putting that money immediately into real homeland defense? Into border security? Into an integrated terror watch list that actually works? How would they feel about putting some of that money into an energy policy that frees us from dependence on foreign oil?
Strip away the rhetoric and expose this BS once and for all.
OFG!
So…when did deterrence stop working? As I recall, it worked like a champ against the USSR. Didn’t nobody nuke nobody. If the US could deter unbeleivably nutty and blood-thirsty Stalin, with his thousand nukes, surely deterrence would work against Iran with a couple of nukes. In the 61 years since nukes were developed, a dozen countries or so countries (give or take) have acquired them. Some of those countries were not so nice. Who, upon acquiring them, immediately used them against a nuke-bearing foe? Nobody. Hell, who has used them at all? Only the US. The only time anybody developed and then immediately used them was at the end of WWII, and, well, that was sort of a special, one-tme-only, not-to-be-repeated unique kind of deal.
If Bush is seriously suggesting that Iran with a couple of nukes is worse than Stalin with a gajillion, he is stupider than I thought. And I think he’s pretty goddamned stupid.
Bush says that contrary to the recent Pentagon report, that Iraq is not falling into civil war. Well I agree with the President. Iraq is not ‘falling’ into civil war. It has already ‘fallen’. Our President, of course, is under-witted.
Eli for President.
OT – I’ve read the NYT article,
“New Questions About Inquiry in C.I.A. Leak”
by David Johnson. I know you guy have touched on it, but darn it, I do have new questions. *g* Also some additional info on old questions it seems. Read EW’s TNH/kos piece, but she didn’t mention my new questions – probably bc they are old to her. LOL
New info for me (EW probably has 14 archived articles on this ) was this:
Hmmm. Duberstein, who serves on the Board of Boeing, is on the CFR committees with Cheneys, and who has a political consulting firm. Just out of the blue, he asks Armitage to meet with Novak, for a chat. Armitage, who has had access to the memo with the “Wilson’s wife” info. And Novak just happens (despite his earlier – “they gave this info to me, I didn’t ask for it” - bit) to ask about the Wilson mess.
Another interesting point – Duberstein was all over the press and even wrote a NYT Op piece after Libby’s indictment, about the fact that Bush needed to bring in new blood – especially interesting with Cheney just moving Addington and Hannah around at OVP after Libby resigned.
From a MTP Transcript(link later)
What are the chances that Duberstein didn’t know Armitage was one of the leakers at this point? I’d have to think zilch and that Armitage talked to his friend, Duberstein, at some point to ask for a bit more info as to how it was that Armitage was asked o meet with Novak. From a quick google, I found this old post at TNH that has quotes from an article no longer available:
Wonder who that “advisor to GOP leadership” might be? Not that you would have a “for attribution” source that everything is peachy and “not for attribution” from the same source that there may be more still to come?
It was also news to me that Armitage only got his “Dear Richard” letter in February of this year.
Wonder what sealed the deal in Feb? A few weeks later in April, Rove is testifying for an unusual5th time. Then we get through the open hearing in Libby and immediately after that open hearing, when things are going to go dark for awhile, out comes word that Rove won’t have to eat his lunch all by himself.
Mary4 @
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Mary- your present comment (above) came through just fine. I rescued your comment on the below thread. http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-275549
It never was seen in moderation- it ended up directly in spam- I checked for it after I read your present comment. *ilson is the computer expert. I am not. FWIW, I know that there is a caveat about “open and insecure proxies” I don’t want to say more, bec. I don’t really understand this, and I don’t want to add info for spammers. *ilson???? are you reading? Your help is needed!!!!
So, Iraq is not really 5 pounds of shit in a 2 pound bag, it just looks that way…
Anne- wow! You always have such spot on comments. Kudos again.
I think Bush will attack Iran just because he wants to. The thing I wonder about is, how long before other countries, maybe China and Russia, decide American needs a regime change and takes matters into their own hands? Bush has weakened the military so drastically that we don’t have the deterent power we once had. And Bush is just nucking futs and the whole world knows it. He’s the most dangerous leader on the planet now.
ccmask@24 “muggers, thugs and thieves” that sounds more like Republicans.
They’re rerunning the 1950s playbook for the parochial Rethug base. Back then, everything bad in the world was “communist”.
This led to such stellar decisions as purging from the government foreign policy experts who didn’t accept the idea of one unified globe-girdling communist conspiracy, which led us into bull-headed disasters like Vietnam.
Now ChimpCo is reissuing the same agitprop with the word ‘terraist’ replacing ‘communist’, playing to the willfully-ignorant Rethug base, with no knowledge of the world beyond their town’s Wal-Mart, to gullibly accept everything authoritarian White House Jesus says without question.
Mary4 @ 34
And all I could think of was Cher…some song about tramps and thieves…*g*
cleter @ 27
In the immortal words of our favorite Tom Friedman “We’re better off with a nuclear Iran than another Rumsfeld war.”
“The enemies of liberty come from different parts of the world, and they take inspiration from different sources. Some are radicalized followers of the Sunni tradition, who swear allegiance to terrorist organizations like al Qaeda. Others are radicalized followers of the Shia tradition, who join groups like Hezbollah and take guidance from state sponsors like Syria and Iran. Still others are “homegrown” terrorists — fanatics who live quietly in free societies they dream to destroy. Despite their differences, these groups from — form the outlines of a single movement“
What a crock. Lock them all in the same room and they’d kill each other. With al Qaeda being the first to go, IMO.
Thank you VG . I am doing the remote login and that is why they are coming through. The fact that my laptop posts are hitting as spam is something that finally makes sense. Every timeI would try to repost – it would say “duplicate comment” but nothing would ever show up and usually moderation stuff shows up for me, but says it is in moderation so I know it is not showing up in general.
I don’t know what the proxy stuff is either, but at least I know what is happening with the posts. I feel MontyPythonesque.
look, this might actually be the downfall of this president
he thinks he can declare ware without congress, he believes his authority to “use all necessary force” gives him the right to declare another front
I am not joking, this is what he believes
THIS will bring his impeachment, IF the democrats make it crystal clear he is taking the plan of the sick fraternity called the PNAC forward
we are more informed then the politicians, and we HAVE to make it CLEAR this is the work of the PNAC, and their goal who’s only purpose is putting more of the planets threasure in their own pockets
I have to wonder who wrote that speech for Dubya- even though the stupidity of the ideas ring true, I can’t imagine him having thought of the words, and stringing them together, all on his own.
Sorry folks, on the phone with my sister in California. Her best friend just got back from Lebanon.
me to me @ 40
Why shouldn’t he believe it? No one has stopped him, ever. That is what scares me.
I keep going back to Bush’s line:
Is Jr. saying that by putting American soldiers in a nearby shooting gallery those with a wish to kill Americans only have to sport for bus fare. And if the troops weren’t in Iraq to be shot at the “terrorists” might be motivated to get a plane ticket?
Because the whole ‘you have to go through Baghdad to get to Toledo’ doesn’t do it for me.
Now on the other hand, lawyers living near Cheney may feel safer because they know he prefers to do his lawyer shooting in the deserts of Texas… so maybe there is a precedence…
Valley Girl @ 32
Thanks, VG…been quite a week behind the curtain, hasn’t it?
Mary4- glad that was of some help. I wish *ilson were around- bec. the only solution I can think of is to restore you laptop settings to a date before you started having laptop problems. But I have no idea how to do that, or even if it would help. I usually figure out how to solve my own computer problems, but that is more intuitive and poking around in the dark, rather than being based on any real understanding of the underlying *fix*.
What’s interesting, if you’re arguing with some kind of winger, and they bring up Iran, is to ask them point-blank when nuclear deterrence stopped working against other countries. They’ll try to bring up 9/11, but cut them off. Iran is not a handful of crazies with plane tickets. It’s a real country, like the old USSR. Deterence worked against the USSR. In fact, it was the center-piece of Reagan’s foreign policy. Then ask them (and this is most effective against older Republicans, with fond memories of Reagan): was Ronald Reagan wrong? Was he completely wrong on defense policy? Or is Bush wrong? ‘Cause they can’t both be right.
That makes them uncomfortable and quiet for a good long time, usually. If you can get Republicans to compare Bush and Reagan in their own heads, Bush don’t look too good.
Mary4
Already posted, probably, but tomorrow’s NYT article indicates opium production has now reached record levels in Afghanistan.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....r=homepage
Valley Girl @ 40
I think Andy Dick writes his speeches.
The line from Bush’s speech that leaped out at me was “The war we fight today is more than a military conflict; it is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.” That had to be from his speechwriter, because it sure doesn’t reflect the way in which he has fought this war.
He’s fought this strictly as a military conflict - “we’ve got the big guns, so of course we’ll win.” If he approached this as an ideological struggle, Gitmo and its sattelite operation in Bahgdad would never have happened. If he approached this as an ideological struggle, he never would have pissed off the rest of the world as he did in the runup to the invasion. If he approached this as an ideological struggle, he would have appointed a Muslim member of the State Department diplomatic corps to be his Undersecretary for Public Dipolomacy, instead of a career member of the GWB Fan Club. If he approached this as an ideological struggle, he would have deployed legions of ideologues - capitalist business leaders, for example - to make the ideological case for him.
But no, Bush is fighting an ideological war with a military mindset.
When will an active member of the senior military leadership stand up and tell him that he’s fighting the right war with the wrong weapons? The retired folks have tried, but until someone in a uniform with lots of ribbons and an office in the Pentagon does so, I’m afraid it’s not going to sink in.
Speaking of Cher, ever wonder how there is 20 mill for propagandizing Americans and monitoring American press to jump on them if they are not getting happy “tone” in their stories about Iraq, but if the soldiers need reinf helmets – we have to wait for Cher to organize it?
this is what we have to do, and I am starting tomorrow
we have to cut, copy, highlight the agenda from the PNAC, we have to cut, highlight the members, cheney, rumsfeld, wolfy, pearly, etc
and we have to MAKE SURE they KNOW these are ACTUAL statements from these people
really guys, look at this from his speech;
they HAVE TO BE ARMED with the information about the project for a new American century AND LEVEL CHARGES OF TREASON to the people that suffer this country to the whims of this SICK AND MANIACAL FRATERNITY, which has SICK members running this country
tryggth @ 44
My translation to this Bushspeak is;
“We need to be inept over there, cause Merkins get hurt by our ineptness over here.” (Katrina)
Anne- yes, re: behind the curtain. All these new WP wangle dangles are throwing us off our stride- and I’m not convinced that they’re all fixed.
OFG!
i did a littl blogwhorin’ for you at k.a., buddy.
nice ending with K.O.
the probability that these freaks will continue to poke sticks at the soft parts in Iran is strong. the likelihood that death and destruction will follow is a given. how will they continue to get soldiars over there without a draft?
SusanD @
33
That’s an interesting scenario. Probably a bit of what the British had in mind when they produced that recent feature that questions what the world would be like if George just was not in the picture. There will come a day when just just a Sino Soviet relationship will be quite a force - in other words, a superpower.
OFG,
Wow, good to see you posting. The only thing that really keeps me going is remembering the descent into failure by Bush after the levees broke in New Orleans. Now with the primary coming up here in NY I keep my head down and We are charging forward.
twolf1 @ 49
I assume you are snarking- I am on dialup, so it will be quite a while before I can download the link.
VG and Mary4 - definitely not *ilson here but I know that when I’m using my work laptop at home, I have to disable the proxy settings to connect to the net at all. You might check under tools, options, Lan Settings and see if a proxy setting is checked. If you can uncheck and then still get online - and this is where I am very uncertain - you may be able to post without the problem. Worth a try at least … maybe?
Eli for President. I like that.
This talk of containment and deterence like we used (succesfully) against the Soviet Union has been deemed a failed policy by Bush.
What he offers now is much better in his opinion.
Bluzzy and Lizzy, good to see you here.
Siun @ 59
Suin- I forgot you were a computer expert. I am repeating your comment, to make extrasuperduper sure that Mary sees it. What you say makes *intuitive* sense- and that’s all I have going for me with dealing with computers!
Mary4 @ 51
Yeah. To be honest, I’m still trying to parse that article. What are we doing, exactly? And since when do we have $20 million to blow on such an ill-defined piece of bullshit like that? This is so obviously more blowjob money. Absolutely nobody in Congress is watching this shit.
OT- Suin- I left you a comment at the end of the Suin! thread.
Jane Hamsher @ 60
This certainly isn’t meant to dis Eli, but one would not have to go very far to find an improvement over Dubya.
This being the “LONG WAR” as it often is
said to be by those who “started it” it is
only “natural” that Iran and Syria must be
“joined” into it.
If Iran had maybe 5 or 6 massively armed
aircraft carriers, something of a inter-
continental capable strategic air force
and a in-place satelite and control force
in place…yeah…ok…I get it…they could
rough us up maybe.
But they dont,havent and likely never will.
So all this “BUSH WACKING” going on has lots
to do with NAC neocon horseshit and putting
a BIG AMERICAN HAND on ME politics,governments
and the means of control over the damn oil.
Of course Bush and Cheney dont ever ever
mention that. Its all about TERROR! TERRORISTS!
FEAR! LONG WAR!
This bunch obviously REALLY WANTS TO INVADE
IRAN…they must be wetting their pants at
having to wait to do so.
IF anyone still thinks Iraq is just ducky
after the last three years of BUSH and CHENEY
“stratergising” they must be on some very
good drugs.
This kicking Iran around is all about some
lousy neocon warlust,American Imperialism in
the ME and rampant militarism run amok.
One thing worse than a “long war” is a
long attack of stupidity and ignorance.
This Bush 2 bunch wins that one everytime.
SusanD @ 33
China is not interested in regime change (except in its own corner of the globe). They just want to eradicate the history of foreign dominance. Right now China does not have to do anything other than what it has been doing. Bush could not do a better job of tilting the balance of power to China if he actually tried to.
Two things in China’s favor: Exremely positive trade balance and becoming a creditor nation to the United States. Buying up American assets is a third strategy. Establishing access to oil is right up there too. In all of these areas, the US has been conceding the game to China because we are too busy fighting wars and promoting a consumerist society.
Russia is looming on the horizon and so is India. Meantime, our national assets are going down the toilet hole of history. To be cleaned up by your children and your chldren’s children…if they are lucky.
He talks endlessly about the terrorist threat, ignoring threats that may be just as serious. And the Dems and true conservatives are not calling him on it.
We need to take the keys away from this drunk driver.
I saw a great bumper sticker earlier this week. It read: ‘W.A.R. Want Another Republican??’
Thought it was wonderful. With the various bumper stickers, the driver is definitely not a happy camper with this administration.
Still others are “homegrown” terrorists — fanatics who live quietly in free societies they dream to destroy. Despite their differences, these groups from — form the outlines of a single movement, a worldwide network of radicals that use terror to kill those who stand in the way of their totalitarian ideology.
What a perfect tie-in to the A&E documentary, “Skinheads USA: Soldeirs of the Race War”
Who will be the first to put White Supremacist Bill Riccio and others of his ilk *cough* George Allen *cough* Karl Rove *cough* on a par with Osama?
Disaffected young males ready to be roused into violence and hate…let’s see, Baghdad? Beirut? How about hometown Alabama.
The Republicans should be forced to respond to Democrats and the MSM demanding to know why they appease the White Supremacist skinheads–terrorists in our own country?
And a sidebar–Osama, the Unabomber, Grover Norquist–all intent on destroying the American government.
We need to take back the framing.
[and props to Siun…just caught up on the backthread]
When Bush give the strike order against Iran/Syria, without the authorization of Congress, will the military comply?
orangejump - right on.
Steve @
71
He’s going to claim that the authorization to use force in Iraq, granted by the US Congress, gives him authority to go into Iran.
Cozumel @ 38
Funny you should mention that. I’ve been half-way watching a Larry King re-run with Bill Maher, who said the same thing. In fact, he suggested that “divide your enemies” was a pretty good strategy. He therefore urged that, having started a Sunni/Shia civil war, we should take it and run. Let them fight each other over there so we don’t have to fight them here. Shades of Swift.
Mary4, lovely job as usual. I too noticed that Armitage says Novak asked him about Wilson, not the other way around. That suggests that Swopa and Emptywheel are right about there being a pre-Armitage Novak source. So who asked Duberstein to set this up? And — a question of my own — how could Armitage not know he was Novak’s source until nearly four months after The Column appeared? Curioser and curioser.
Steve @ 72
I can’t believe I’m saying this but yeah, they will. Oh, and Eli for Prez sounds good to me!
Oilfieldguy @
66
He would get my vote.
Lizzy @ 76
And mine.
Christine@73 True, but will the military comply? The christo-fascists in the USAF can’t wait to bomb, but will the other service chiefs remember their duty to the Constitution and the American people?
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2....._fit_iraq/
~~~Rumsfeld’s rant was but the shrillest of several recent statements by members of the federal regime — Cheney, Rice and the great and powerful Bush himself — in defense of the war in Iraq. Which must mean — hold on, let me check my calendar — yep, there’s an election coming.
The War on Terror has, after all, been this gang’s get-out-of-jail-free card for years. High gas prices, a hurricane fiasco, red ink, an overall patina of ineptness overtopped by arrogance, and it’s all forgotten the moment they say 9-11. Small wonder they say it loudly now with midterm elections looming and polls suggesting more Americans are seeing through the president like Saran Wrap.~~~
iowa christine @
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Exactly. There ain’t going to be a debate in Congress or a vote or anything. How can it be stopped, then? Can it?
Oilfieldguy @ 61
Bush rejected three alternative policies in his speech. The first was stability; he favors dismantling regimes in the hope it will make things better in the long run. It’s a reckless gamble at best, and probably crazy.
The second was containment. He keeps repeating the mantra that Iran cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons. Unfortunately, it is hard to find anyone, Dem or Republican, willing to challenge that mantra or its implications.
Third, Bush explicitly rejected primary reliance on police/investigations strategies for fighting “terror.” This segment of his speech was likely a direct refutation of George Will’s column saying that Kerry was right to say, “this should be an international policing function, not primarily military.” Bush rejected that as a failed policy, even though that’s exactly what the British are doing.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09.....r=homepage
So who’s talking to whom? I see Bush’s speech as a debate between the warhawks at the American Enterprise Institute and the old line conservatives like George Will. Glenn Greenwald has a good post today on the influence of AEI on the Bush Admin, and the fact that most of the war hawks in the Administration have been closely linked with AEI.
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.....html#links
The AEI side of the debate is winning, and they’re represented by Cheney.
The Dem’s strategy should be to call these people warmongering extremists, and claim the weak-minded Bush and ineffectual Condi have been captured by Cheney and his zealots, including Rumsfeld. Johnson vs Goldwater.
Thank you again VG. Knowing what is happening, even if you can’t fix it, is just less frustrating.
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“… it is the decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century.” And like all ideological struggles, the guys who bomb the most babies and call it legal win.
Fatwa – meet OLC opinion.
Peterr – it’s not even a military mindset, IMO. It’s a bully’s criminal mindset. He can’t confront the ideological issues, bc then it becomes clear that ideologically – he’s jumped on board with them – torture, kidnap, bombings, rhetoric, appeals to religious fervor, hatemongering, etc. He’s already lost on ideology by being subsumed into their ideology of violence and suppression and secrecy and crime- taking our military and govt there with him.
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Dear Sec of Def – further to your observation that there are thousands more google hits from the name of a soldier involved in the Abu Ghraib scandal than the soldier who got the medal of freedom (?) please note that I have also been googling. You and Republicans say nasty things about Dems wanting to leave Iraq millions of times more than you mention a big hearty thank you to Dems for support with the Afghanistan war. Why is that? The world is just gosh darn confusing isn’t it?
BTW – hasn’t anyone told the terrorists in Pakistan, Spain, Britain and Indonesia that they are supposed to go to Iraq? Maybe offered cab fare (fellow terrorists are likely to give them a good rate)? How can we fight them in Iraq if they are everywhere else? If I put pork under my bed, will I be able to quit checking there each night?
Morally enthused,
Mary
VG - sorry I was out with the dog and picking up some ice cream to eat while watching … a stock car race … true indulgence for a Sat night!
No longer a ‘puter expert and not sure it will work but I’m hoping it does… and now I’ll go check your note
Oilfieldguy @
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Oh dear. I think y’all are just proving my point…
I’m flattered, though!
Mary4- did you see Siun’s comment about laptop above? http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-275618
I’m pretty sure there are thousands more google hits on the world trade center going down then what cheney was doing with norad at the time
VG - uhoh… maybe it blew up instead!
I find these locked in settings on work machines very irritating … and at our company, they recently decided to get really into branding and all our desktop pictures vanished in favor of a company logo! argh!
Republicans are running the warriors of America through their war profit machine to finance their luxurious lifestyles and future fear and smear campaigns.
Siun- http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-275552