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		<title>By: theExile</title>
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		<dc:creator>theExile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 23:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m glad to see that *ilson, Okie Kiddo and bob3 also remember the first King George and his mercs during the War of Independence. I was educated in the good old US of A and was taught that them Hessians were the worst of the worst and lowest of the low. It didn’t help of course that I went to school in the immediate aftermath of WWII and just the fact that they were various flavors of Germans (Prussians for one) didn’t endear them to our history teachers or us. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;At least I know now that I wasn’t imagining lessons from elementary school. I wasn’t ingesting anything that had the potential to alter memories at that grade level. In future days when students learn about that terrible old King George, they won’t be talkin’ about the guy from the 1700’s anymore, if you know what I mean. He’ll be the chubby little quaint one that sent the redcoats over to the colonies and the current George will rank right up there with Hitler, Stalin and Ivan the Terrible, but won’t be considered half the man of any of them.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m glad to see that *ilson, Okie Kiddo and bob3 also remember the first King George and his mercs during the War of Independence. I was educated in the good old US of A and was taught that them Hessians were the worst of the worst and lowest of the low. It didn’t help of course that I went to school in the immediate aftermath of WWII and just the fact that they were various flavors of Germans (Prussians for one) didn’t endear them to our history teachers or us. </p>
<p>At least I know now that I wasn’t imagining lessons from elementary school. I wasn’t ingesting anything that had the potential to alter memories at that grade level. In future days when students learn about that terrible old King George, they won’t be talkin’ about the guy from the 1700’s anymore, if you know what I mean. He’ll be the chubby little quaint one that sent the redcoats over to the colonies and the current George will rank right up there with Hitler, Stalin and Ivan the Terrible, but won’t be considered half the man of any of them.</p>
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		<title>By: ckerst</title>
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		<dc:creator>ckerst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 15:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It concerns me that number one a wealthy repugnacan has a private army, and number two that our government has to hire a private army to help out. Not only is the private army outsourcing so is the regular army. They offer citizenship to anyone that serves a minimal amount of time. Rome fell for exactly this reason. The good citizens of Rome couldn’t be bothered to serve in the military so they outsourced to the Vandals, Huns, and what have you. Eventually the outsourced army realized that Rome was defenseless against them. Just another sign of a decaying society.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It concerns me that number one a wealthy repugnacan has a private army, and number two that our government has to hire a private army to help out. Not only is the private army outsourcing so is the regular army. They offer citizenship to anyone that serves a minimal amount of time. Rome fell for exactly this reason. The good citizens of Rome couldn’t be bothered to serve in the military so they outsourced to the Vandals, Huns, and what have you. Eventually the outsourced army realized that Rome was defenseless against them. Just another sign of a decaying society.</p>
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		<title>By: FightTheFuture</title>
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		<dc:creator>FightTheFuture</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 08:50:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-275403&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Stuart Eugene Thiel @&lt;br /&gt;
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&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Is there some kind of bizarre karma linking Clinton’s “Whitewater” to Bush’s “Blackwater”?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;WOW!!  I never looked at it that way.  Words have power and this is quite serendipitous!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-275403"><em>Stuart Eugene Thiel @<br />
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<blockquote><p>Is there some kind of bizarre karma linking Clinton’s “Whitewater” to Bush’s “Blackwater”?</p>
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<p>WOW!!  I never looked at it that way.  Words have power and this is quite serendipitous!</p>
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		<title>By: Valley Girl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Valley Girl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 06:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;tanbark- I think that some part of Mercs-r-us put your comment into spam.  I just rescued it.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tanbark- I think that some part of Mercs-r-us put your comment into spam.  I just rescued it.</p>
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		<title>By: tanbark</title>
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		<dc:creator>tanbark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 06:28:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;WTF!  Mercs-r-us, shortchanging it’s goons.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Who’d a thunk it?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’ll never get to “shitmire accomplished” like this.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF!  Mercs-r-us, shortchanging it’s goons.</p>
<p>Who’d a thunk it?</p>
<p>We’ll never get to “shitmire accomplished” like this.</p>
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		<title>By: clueless</title>
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		<dc:creator>clueless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 06:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-275434&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;TeddySanFran @ 9 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;ah, Orwell again: when mercenaries form a trade association, they call it the International Peace Operations Association.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just the idea that mercenaries HAVE formed a “trade association” is scary enough. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The idea that this trade assciation and its “members” are expanding their “operations” so greatly is a mighty frightening look at our near-term future. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Next thing you know, some nutcase with billions of dollars at his disposal could even source these “members” for “operations” against or in the USA! You know - a highly organized, mobile, global mercenary force. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Wasn’t it Machiavelli (sic?) would opined that mercenaries are the best soldiers in the world cause they are fighting for profit and would never stick their necks into a situation that could get them killed? In other words, they are not fighting for honor, they are fighting for money. MOST dangerous indeed.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-275434"><em>TeddySanFran @ 9 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>ah, Orwell again: when mercenaries form a trade association, they call it the International Peace Operations Association.</p>
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<p>Just the idea that mercenaries HAVE formed a “trade association” is scary enough. </p>
<p>The idea that this trade assciation and its “members” are expanding their “operations” so greatly is a mighty frightening look at our near-term future. </p>
<p>Next thing you know, some nutcase with billions of dollars at his disposal could even source these “members” for “operations” against or in the USA! You know &#8211; a highly organized, mobile, global mercenary force. </p>
<p>Wasn’t it Machiavelli (sic?) would opined that mercenaries are the best soldiers in the world cause they are fighting for profit and would never stick their necks into a situation that could get them killed? In other words, they are not fighting for honor, they are fighting for money. MOST dangerous indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Mangro Ve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mangro Ve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:50:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“…not to say that the Columbians mentioned in the article are “unsavory” since we know nothing about them specifically…”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With all due respect to all of you wordsmiths and masters of the English language, it is “Colombians”, not “Columbians” because the country is called “Colombia” and not “Columbia” (like British Columbia). And yes, even though the 100 plus former military may be a bit unsavory, they were nonetheless conned by Blackwater’s Colombian agents in a classical bait and switch trick. It seems that their passports were taken away, they were threatened with expulsion from the Green Zone, and were asked to leave on their own, while they have no money nor plane ticket. They all agreed to protest and to leave, so if they stayed it was against their will. It should be noted that $4,000 US dollars is a small fortune for a run- of-the-mill Colombian. More details may be found in the Colombian press, which covered the story in some detail.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…not to say that the Columbians mentioned in the article are “unsavory” since we know nothing about them specifically…”</p>
<p>With all due respect to all of you wordsmiths and masters of the English language, it is “Colombians”, not “Columbians” because the country is called “Colombia” and not “Columbia” (like British Columbia). And yes, even though the 100 plus former military may be a bit unsavory, they were nonetheless conned by Blackwater’s Colombian agents in a classical bait and switch trick. It seems that their passports were taken away, they were threatened with expulsion from the Green Zone, and were asked to leave on their own, while they have no money nor plane ticket. They all agreed to protest and to leave, so if they stayed it was against their will. It should be noted that $4,000 US dollars is a small fortune for a run- of-the-mill Colombian. More details may be found in the Colombian press, which covered the story in some detail.</p>
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		<title>By: Mercedes Socha</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mercedes Socha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 05:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“(Which is not to say that the Columbians mentioned in the article are “unsavory” since we know nothing about them specifically. However, when a company searches the globe to recruit mercenaries, one must question what are the minimum specifications for employment.)”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;With all due respect to all of you wordsmiths and masters of the English language, it is “Colombians,” not “Columbians,” because the country is called “Colombia” , not “Columbia” (like British Columbia.) And yes, the 100 plus Colombians hired by Blackwater may be unsavory characters (probably all former military members, which is not, I think, equivalent to “highly ethical people”), but they do seem to have been conned anyway by Blackwater’s Colombian agents, in a classical bait and switch trick. It seems also that their passports were taken away, they were threatened with expulsion from the Green Zone, and invited to leave, for which many of them had no money nor plane ticket, so if the stayed it was against their will.For more details you may read the Colombian press, which have covered the issue in some extent.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“(Which is not to say that the Columbians mentioned in the article are “unsavory” since we know nothing about them specifically. However, when a company searches the globe to recruit mercenaries, one must question what are the minimum specifications for employment.)”</p>
<p>With all due respect to all of you wordsmiths and masters of the English language, it is “Colombians,” not “Columbians,” because the country is called “Colombia” , not “Columbia” (like British Columbia.) And yes, the 100 plus Colombians hired by Blackwater may be unsavory characters (probably all former military members, which is not, I think, equivalent to “highly ethical people”), but they do seem to have been conned anyway by Blackwater’s Colombian agents, in a classical bait and switch trick. It seems also that their passports were taken away, they were threatened with expulsion from the Green Zone, and invited to leave, for which many of them had no money nor plane ticket, so if the stayed it was against their will.For more details you may read the Colombian press, which have covered the issue in some extent.</p>
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		<title>By: marquer</title>
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		<dc:creator>marquer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
For those wanting more detail on this unsavory business, I recommend P.W. Singer’s Corporate Warriors, which is a fairly dispassionate and exceptionally detailed look at the business, worldwide.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Allow me to echo montag’s recommendation. And then, to get you truly incredibly depressed, follow it up with Singer’s equally well researched next title, &lt;i&gt;Child Soldiers&lt;/i&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It was mentioned upthread that South Africans are showing up in these mercenary firms. Yes, absolutely, starting with Executive Outcomes and spreading out from there. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Some of the South Africans in question appear to have served in SADF counterinsurgency during the late apartheid years, with units like Koevoet (”Crowbar” in  Afrikaans) which had a reputation for exceptional harshness.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Another place from which recruits have come is Chile. There are a lot of old Pinochet hands who are not in jail, and who lack for steady work now that the General’s regime is no more.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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For those wanting more detail on this unsavory business, I recommend P.W. Singer’s Corporate Warriors, which is a fairly dispassionate and exceptionally detailed look at the business, worldwide.<br />
</i><br />
Allow me to echo montag’s recommendation. And then, to get you truly incredibly depressed, follow it up with Singer’s equally well researched next title, <i>Child Soldiers</i>.</p>
<p>It was mentioned upthread that South Africans are showing up in these mercenary firms. Yes, absolutely, starting with Executive Outcomes and spreading out from there. </p>
<p>Some of the South Africans in question appear to have served in SADF counterinsurgency during the late apartheid years, with units like Koevoet (”Crowbar” in  Afrikaans) which had a reputation for exceptional harshness.</p>
<p>Another place from which recruits have come is Chile. There are a lot of old Pinochet hands who are not in jail, and who lack for steady work now that the General’s regime is no more.</p>
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		<title>By: EvilDrPuma</title>
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		<dc:creator>EvilDrPuma</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Sep 2006 03:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-275528&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;ccmask @ 60 &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;I was reading the Japan Times before, and an article referred to Joe Lieberman as a Confession-box Republican.  I thought that was pretty clever.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Holy Joe is both a closeted Catholic &lt;em&gt;and&lt;/em&gt; a (poorly) closeted Republican? Somebody is gonna be &lt;em&gt;pissed&lt;/em&gt;…&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-275528"><em>ccmask @ 60 </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>I was reading the Japan Times before, and an article referred to Joe Lieberman as a Confession-box Republican.  I thought that was pretty clever.</p>
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<p>Holy Joe is both a closeted Catholic <em>and</em> a (poorly) closeted Republican? Somebody is gonna be <em>pissed</em>…</p>
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