When asked about his Connecticut for Lieberman candidacy having a negative effect on Democrats in House races in the state of Connecticut, Turncoat Joe said:
"Well, I guess I should say that they should have thought of that during the primary, but here we are."
Yes, here we are, you odious Turncoat.
Oh, and for all those who have been questioning whether Lieberman is campaigning with Republicans, you can watch Lieberman and Chris Shays campaigning together on video at a rally. Including Chris Shays saying about Lieberman that "we have a national treasure" in him at this public event, while introducing him to the crowd — and then later hugging him on camera (and then getting an admonishment from such PDAs in the future from a skittish Turncoat Joe).
Any questions now?
(YouTube posted by TrueBlueCT, and found via MyLeftNutmeg.)
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Slainte!
Lamontz!
voters of CT: get him outta there.
More PDAs with Republicans? Sounds like the KISS image may become the lead vehicle in a train instead of a single, stand-alone thing. Just keep building those floats . . .
Gotta send this to, em, Stephen Elliot.
Joe? A turncoat? I’m absolutely shocked! SHOCKED!
(Somebody tell Harry Reid!)
Dear Joe:
The voters of Connecticut do not negotiate with hostage-takers. Good bye.
xxoooxxx,
Concerned Citizens
Yes, here we are… we’re lookin’ at you, Joe, and it ain’t a pretty sight. Pouty, petulant, entitlementified.
Shoulda named it Lieberman for Lieberman.
“Any questions now?”
Yes. What is Joementum-speak for traitor?
petulant little bastid!
aReader @
7
That bears repeating.
Chris Shays was *partly* right, the Republicans have a national treasure in Turncoat Joe. The Democrats, not so much.
And what a petulant, childish thing for Joe to say….”they should have thought of that”. Ick. I don’t even live in CT, but I’m sending another donation to Ned. Maybe Joe “should have thought of that”, too.
Oh yes. Joe Lieberman is a turncoat alright. What I find most aggravating is Lieberman’s turncoatedness on the placing of Israels interests in the Middle East over his country’s interest. On this crucial issue (peace in the Mid East) I see no light between Lieberman’s position and Senator Clinton’s.
Lieberman: “they hate us all”
Me: “No we hate you, Joe!”
All those bikers and not one of them called him out as the wuss chickenhawk fearmongering bastid that he is?
ps– that was a helluva hug.
“They” should have thought of that during the primary? They? So Joe had no responsibility to think about the bigger picture that should have included Democratic candidates for the House, I guess, because, after all, he was too busy thinking about how he was going to do an end run around the primary results, and his ego prevented anything else from fitting in the framework of that larger picture.
Ooooooh, Christy – the chutzpah of that statement from Joe sent my blood pressure up about 10 points.
Memo to Chris Shays. Get your head checked out.
Speaking of the Lieberliar recruiting with Republicans meme, anyone else notice their comments over at HuffPo disappear in that Stephanie Elliott post?
Really Steph, if you’re going to bash FDL and Jane on another site, don’t be such a sissy that you delete the comments that are critical of your behavior. If you were a real man, you’d have the balls to just admit you were wrong on the issue, apologize to Jane, and we could all move on.
Memo to Joementum: Get your head out of your ass.
sonate @ 18
Or, just get your head and ass out of the race!
Actually I do have one (a genuine one)
The Dem AG who was confirmed to be at the plant at the same time Lieberman was – Is he seeking re-election or is it an off-year?
If he’s not on the ballot, I don’t know that he’s “campaigning” with Lieberman, if we go by Lil Stephen’s narrow view. I mean, the AG wouldn’t be “campaigning” himself, just appearing and supporting HoJo. Plus, less downside for the AG since he wouldn’t pay the price this year.
Just a thought.
And I can’t believe (well, am I really surprised, no, but christ on a pogo stick!) what HoJo said: “they should have thought of that during the primary…”
Why that … crap, I can’t think of anything to call him that is bad enough … oh, REPUBLICAN!
FU HoJo!
very nice not so thinly veiled threat.
what a homunculus.
There are some good lte’s in the Stamford Advocate (a couple that stink too) I especially liked one that ended like this:
(emphasis mine)
The majority of Americans, opposed to the failures of this administration, are rising against these insulting violations of the law and the ethics on which this country was founded. We need leadership with a backbone not a wishbone, and we will have our chance to vote for change in November with Ned Lamont and Diane Farrell.
Marianne Schorer
SusanD — hah! Joe Lieberman, a treasure?
Let’s bury it!!!
BQ– Blumenthal up for re-election iirc.
Rayne @ 23
LMAO.
I just sent this link to our senator’s aides. I think we all need to flood J-Lie’s colleagues with this link. What more proof do they need?
was poor old joe SMILING after he proclaimed that ‘they hate us all” ???
it was bad enough that he laughed about possibly tanking CT democrats running for the house but smiling after saying ‘they hate us all” ???
Lieberman is such a tool
can’t access it– tis archived behind da wall.
Uh. Mah. Gawd.
That is just amazing.
But Lieberman and Shays weren’t campaigning together. No.
They were fucking picking out china patterns.
oh bother, I cannot read today, sorry for any confusion.
True Carl Cameron: Cites the “Far left.”
Christy – I’m sorry this is off-topic – got here too late for the Armitage thread – but was curious what you thought about this exchange on Monday’s Hardball – part of the Noron and Isikoff transcript:
O‘DONNELL: Did the White House know that Armitage was the primary source for Bob Novak and perhaps even Woodward.
ISIKOFF: Fascinating question. One of the things we describe in the book is this phone call by Will Taft, the State Department legal adviser, to Alberto Gonzales, the then White House counsel, right after he‘s contacted the Justice Department, to tell them that the State Department and Dick Armitage has information relevant to the investigation. He tells that to the Justice Department.
Taft feels obligated to tell the White House something. This thing is blown up. It‘s a huge Washington firestorm and the White House is under heat. Taft calls Gonzalez and says well I think you should know that we at the State Department have some information relative to this investigation. They are worried at State, Taft, that the White House is going ask for details and if they know it‘s Armitage they will leak it to pass attention away from themselves.
O‘DONNELL: So did the White House know it was Armitage.
ISIKOFF: Gonzalez never asked any follow up questions. He just said thank you very much and never asked for the details about Armitage. Taft and Armitage breath a huge say of relief and the White House, at least at that stage, had no idea the identity of the leaker.
O‘DONNELL: Because Karl and Scooter Libby and others in the White House could have said listen it wasn‘t it was Dick Armitage, if they knew.
ISIKOFF: They would, presumably, loved to have had this information back then as a push back to the heat they were getting. Of course they had complicity of their own. They had, you know, Rove not only confirmed the story to Novak, he then volunteered the information to Matt Cooper a few days later. So and Scooter Libby, of course, had already talked about it with Judy Miller of the “New York Times.” So their hands were not clean on this, but it is ironic that the primary guy who set the chain in motion was Dick Armitage, a moderate in the administration.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14570837/
(is Isikoff full of it? Or, if he’s right, why would Abu blow it off?)
Jane at 29 — I know. Jeebus.
HoJoSpeak translation:
“You’ll see. You’ll be sorry. I’m gonna come back and get you and you’re gonna be the ones who wanna be my friends and I’m gonna say NO cuz I won’t need YOU!” [wiping snot bubble from nose on sleeve]
“They should have thought about it during the primary?”
Translation:”He-who-dared-run-against-me should have realized that even if I lost,I would show my respect for democracy and my ‘fellow’ Democrats by fucking them all.”
everhopeful at 29 — from what I have heard from a number of folks, Gonzales has never been a criminal attorney, and his experience was less than substantial in that arena. I’ve seen him described on more than one occasion by current and former DoJ folks as a sort of “empty suit” whose experience is all administrative and corporate, and not much else — and it may not even have occurred to him, if that’s true, to ask the follow-up question. Not all lawyers have substantial courtroom experience and trial practice. I don’t know a lot about Gonzales’ prior legal background before he sat on the TX Supreme Court bench (to which Bush appointed him, as I recall) — maybe some of our TX readers can fill in the gaps on this — but in my experience, folks who haven’t worked in a particular legal area are often completely out of their depth in trying to work in it (that’s why I always recommend to friends the name of someone who specifically specializes in a particular field when they need someone to address a really specific legal issue).
Weepy HoJo engaged in lobbing thinly veiled threats. Jeezuuu, and it’s only nearly September. Fuck the popcorn. We may have to resort to cake.
Isn’t it amazing that if the GOP loses the Senate, it could be because they’ve lost control of their own far right wing (in Rhode Island). But if the Democrats lose they House, it could be because the leadership is too compromised to drop the fucking hammer on this churlish little turncoat and support the duly elected Democratic nominee. Then Rahm runs around telling people that Joe Lieberman is a “Democrat.”
Maybe he ought to watch more Fox News. That may be the best piece Carl Cameron’s ever done.
Bush says he won’t get out of Iraq no matter what. Israel “sidesteps calls to end blockade” of Lebanon. Yo Israel. This is a humanitarian thing here. Lieberman’s strings are pulled by the Israeli government. The leaders of America, Israel and Hezbollah are war criminals.
What. A. Dick.
Unbelievable. Truly just unbelievable.
Any Democrat who votes for this turd … well, I can’t even finish the sentence. And NARAL should be so incredibly ashamed.
Over at Eschaton, the topic of “how can Lieberman exit this race with his dignity intact?” was being discussed. I said that the only way he could get out of this with any dignity is to commit seppuku. We could all feel badly for his family, shake our heads at the tragedy of it all, and maybe the Lifetime Network could make one of its patented movies out of the last years of his life. “Fatal Hubris: The Joe Lieberman Story.”
But I don’t think that even a noble suicide would help him now. His legacy is set in concrete. He’s closed the last door to A Graceful Way Out.
I just hope most Republicans in Connecticut can’t hold their noses long enough to vote for him, and Lieberman finds out what happens when you depend upon the kindness of the GOP.
angie @ 30
wow. you had me reading and re-reading that…I’m still laughing from seeing this post come thru as I was trying to puzzle the other one out.
I’m practically cross-eyed tired yet am behaving like TRex on a snark binge with the prospect of a Fitz fix. I should sleep.
thanks for the good laugh and the info
there are times i am just amazed. reading some local LTTE in connecticut can make my head spin. the reasons for keeping joe truly defy reason. the lines seem so drawn that even the truth will not penetrate some of these folks. this is not a done deal in connecticut, one way or the other. game is still on.
Jane Hamsher @ 38
But he was oozing schadenfreude.
Jane Hamsher @ 29
Ah, that would explain why our dear friend Stephen hasn’t issued a “retraction, clarification, or apology” of his earlier remarks, as he’s called on others to do in the past. After all, we all “should know the danger of intentionally spreading misinformation.”
That Stephen – He’s got a real way with words . . .
Indeed, someone should ask Rahm just how havin’ two “Democrats” in the race is working out for his plans now.
Go Ned!
I was doing the same thing, BQ! Here’s hoping your eyes return to their normal and upright position shortly.
sorry, the edit function was a hoot to use for that too!
As we all know by now, Jack Kemp will campaigning with Joe Lieberman. Here is an article by Kemp explaining why he is supporting Joe.
http://www.townhall.com/column…..the_senate
There are three things here that Kemp does not point out (even if you go and read the complete article.)
1. Lieberman lost the Democratic primary to Lamont, a decision which Lieberman refuses to accept. Kemp expects Democrats to be happy with that?
2. Lieberman is running as an independent in name only. He is getting vital support from Republicans. Kemp expects Democrats to be happy with that?
3. Lieberman’s narcissism is endangering the election chances of three Democrats running for the House. Kemp expects Democrats go be happy with that?
Finally, the people of CT need to ask whether Kemp really has the interests of the people of CT at heart. Kemp is big time lobbyist and you can be sure he does not support causes that help ordinary folks. His firm is called Kemp Partners, and one of their major businesses is “Government Relations.” You and I know what that means. Are the people of comfortable knowing that one of Joe’s biggest supporters is a lobbyist for big corporations?
Kemp is also a founding member of Empower America, a rightwing think tank. Kemp is also close to Robert Kagan, co-founder with William Kristol of PNAC, those wonderful folks who brought you the war in Iraq..
Here are a couple of things Kemp and Lieberman have in common: Both ran for VP and lost (Kemp in 1996, Lieberman in 2000) Both lost in primary campaigns for the presidency (Kemp in 1988, Lieberman in 2004)
I can’t believe that ANY Democrat would vote for this schmuck after a statement like that! He is now freely admitting that he tried to blackmail the party into voting for him. He laughs about it. Outrageous. God, how I despise him. Going to donate more to Ned right now.
Joe can raise campaign funds by running a kissing booth.
Only republicans need apply.
orangejumpsuit @ 47
You nailed it: Jack Kemp, concern troll.
Paging darkblack . . . darkblack to the white courtesy phone . . .
Great points OJS.
everhopeful @ 32
beware of investigative journalists selling books.
tommy yum @ 49
eeeeewwwwwwww. gotta wash my brain and get rid of that image.
Peterr @
4
Pom-pom pilots
Of course RGJoe is kissy-face with Shays. Shays is giving RGJoe the cover to change his position on the War on Iraq without undermining our Commander-in-Chief. That’s probably worth more than a kiss; the whispering is the clue.
All these years in the public eye, on teevee, and neither Shays nor RHJoe can see how icky their interaction is gonna look through a camera lens? Shake, hug, ear-lick (flutter-kiss), long whisper, giggle, step-back, high-five, laugh… light cigarette.
Maybe now we know the source of W’s latest presser madness — RGJoe’s got some new GOP-boytail. Shays, Kemp, Hannity. Watch for JimmyJeff to show up at the WH to relieve W’s pain soon.
Jane Hamsher @
38
Rumsfeld criticism from a far right LTE, but it echoes your point.
Rumsfeld’s despicable tirade
Christy Hardin Smith @ 36
With Abu, there seems to be the “fear of knowing” as well: better not to ask any questions, then later he can truthfully “testify” to his unknowing. For the knowingly criminal in high office, ignorance is a special kind of bliss known as plausible deniability.
Jane, unfortunately Reid can’t summarily yank Lieberman’s committee assignments — that requires a full vote by the Senate, and you know that none of Joe’s fellow Republicans will vote to strip JoJo.
But I’d get a food taster if I were Joe.
OT
oh this is rich:
http://www.nytimes.com/aponlin…..-Mike.html
wow, that’s completely ass-tastic.
“should have thought of that during the primaries”
what he’s really saying is: “If they didn’t want me to turn on the party, they should have voted for me”. What a believer in democracy! What a Democrat! Joe, you’re a real man’s man! Riiiiiiiight…
sorry if that’s been mentioned already…
John Casper @ 9:09
Yeah Rummy and BushCo are nothing if not ballsy. THEM, calling US fascists…it boggles the mind. One of us is wiretapping without warrants. One of us is holding American citizens, without charges, indefinitely, without access to attorneys. One of us is refusing American citizens entry into the country, for refusing to incriminate themselves, again without access to attorneys.
Yeah Rummy, keep taking whatever it is that you are on…your insights into the situation keep getting more creative!
Reid can say publicly that Joe will loose all senority on committees next year, should he be elected in November.
The precedent for this is Sen. Wayne Morse in 1953:
Morse realized that his defection would cost him his seniority on the Armed Services and Labor committees, but he believed that his eight years of Senate seniority entitled him at least to remain on these prime committees. Consequently, he was unprepared for Majority Leader Robert Taft’s decision that he be removed altogether from the Labor Committee—his most prized assignment.
It goes on, interesting reading
It bothers me when people call Joe a turd. Hello? Gardening? Manure?
Turds are actually useful.
U.S. General Goerge Casey tips-off Al Qaeda and Bin Laden as to when the U.S. will be ready to “cut and run” thus turning Iraq into a carbon copy of Nazi Germany in 1938.
-GSD
they should have thought of that during the primary
They obviously thought they were dealing with someone honorable, not a two-bit traitor who couldn’t wait to stab Democrats in the back.
OfT: vivian darkbloom at 9:12, thanks for the link.
Published: August 30, 2006
At least Kyra Phillips didn’t say something like: “Whoo…I really have to pinch a loaf”.
-GSD
Pelosi on msnbc, refuting Dumsfeld (sounds like we are actually getting out ahead of this for once)
GSD @ 65
promises, promises make the elections go down like a spoonful of sugar…
I love the adjectives around this place!
Yesterday, it was TRex’s “petulant”, today it’s Jane and “churlish” and Christy’s “odious.”
Around our house, The Kid is learning to read. Sometimes that means getting a new book off the shelf and working through it together, and other times it means taking an old favorite, and looking at the words more than the pictures. One of his favorite oldies is from Beatrix Potter of Peter Rabbit fame: “The Tale of Mr. Tod.” The title character is a fox, and his nemesis is the “odious Tommy Brock” – a badger who goes into Mr. Tod’s home when he’s is not around, eats whatever he wants from the cupboards, sleeps in Mr. Tod’s bed, grubs up the neighborhood, messes up the place, and generally acts like a big “party of one.”
The “Odious Joe Lieberman” really hits home with the under-five crowd, and the adults who read with them!
So is there a party HQ for CT for Lieberman? Are people going to change their voter registrations to CFL? What is a political party? What does it stand for? How does one join it? Are there party rules and such? Officers? Are there no basic legal issues here?
I mean, how is he getting away with this shit?
I will say it again, in NM one cannot run for office again after a primary defeat by running under another “party/no party” banner. Against the law in NM.
I know, whatever works everywhere else does not work in NM, said Lew Wallace, our first Governor. But please? No law in CT outlaws this?
John Casper @ 67
It’s going to be an uncomfortable holiday season at the Phillips’ house.
-GSD
aReader @ 63
Good catch, I did not know that. The discouraging part of this story is at the very end: it took two years for Morse to make it across the aisle to organize with the Dems. Can the Republic endure two years of RGJoe’s overt GOP dance on the floor of the Senate?
GO NED!
BQ @
20
Richard Blumenthal is running against Republican Robert Farr.
Wow, did a little googling, and it turns out our buddy Stephen seems to have a Turncoat fetish. He just loved Nader back in 2004 also.
Full article here.
B. Williams confronting Fartacus on msnbc… Fart looks very uncomfortable…
TeddySanFran @ 74
It won’t take J-Lie 2 hours to make the leap across the aisle, hell, he’s already 2/3 the way there.
It’s going to be an uncomfortable holiday season at the Phillips’ house.
-GSD
If I were Kyra I would just do this and never mind with the red hair and white stripes (they’re baaack, TSF)
http://www.wesaturtle.net/Gall…..y_head.jpg
I concur – that’s exactly the feeling we all had at ykos. Mini-meetups are the best! way to get connected (at the roots)
Drive by and OT (batting 1.000 this morning, clearly)
Nice to meet everyone last night in Toluca Lake (SteveAudio, astralplane, M/M Redshift, M/M al-Scooter).
I found an index with which we can rate Joe’s ego emissions:
http://www.egoindex.com/?sem=34410392
GSD at 9:20
LMAO.
OT: Life imitates fiction, Ann Quindlen’s latest novel, Rise and Shine, just released, is about a female anchor leaving her mike open. There are a lot of differences, but wow.
Okay, I just can’t tie my brain in enough knots to be able to think like this guy.
If pigs should fly on election day, and Joe wins, and the Democratic House candidates lose, will the Joe-who-said-he-will-caucus-with-Democrats be blaming Joe-the-CT-for-Lieberman candidate for that loss, or will Joe-the-whatever-he-is be blaming the party he wants to caucus with and the party which, if they take the Senate, will be in a position to give him plum committee assignments?
There isn’t a geometric figure with enough sides that could be used to describe what used to be called “triangulating -”octagonulating?” “decagonulating?” “dodecahedronulating?”
(My preview button is missing)
Apparently the Fox News chicken salad is starting to taste like chicken-shit to more and more Americans.
Rawstory banner:
Fox News ratings down 28% from last year… Soon…
-GSD
“Well, I guess I should say that they should have thought of that during the primary, but here we are.”
Nyah nyah, nyah nyah nyah.
Leiberman must think he’s still in kindergarten. Would somebody please give him a time out?
OT:
The Repubs are broadcasting their intent to spend now thru the 9/11 anniversary hawking the war and need to stay and inflict more insane destruction. The Demos need to START RIGHT NOW on their own offensive, in support of an imminent timeline for withdrawal. The best way to do this is indicated by Barney Frank, who has an excellent posture of clarity and precision without wimpiness over at the HuffPost today:
Barney Frank rips up the fiction that Dems are mostly pacifists, a bias carried in too many editorial boards in the country, by writing:
Their argument is that the refusal of many Democrats to support the war in Iraq shows that President Bush’s opposition is unwilling to use force against terrorism.
There is, of course, one factual refutation of this partisan distortion. Every Democratic senator and representative but one voted for the war in Afghanistan. It is this war that represented America’s reaction to the murders of thousands of Americans on Sept. 11 . It was the Taliban regime in Afghanistan that was sheltering Osama bin Laden. The reaction of the overall majority of Americans, including virtually all Democrats, was to support the Afghan war as a necessary act of self-defense.
The Massachusetts 4th Congressman rips the clothes of the emperor with his sensible kicker:
Whether or not one subscribes to the geopolitical aims that motivated the Bush administration’s intervention in Iraq, it is clearly invalid to assert that support for that war is the indispensable badge of one’s willingness to confront terrorism. Only by adopting the techniques of the big lie can the vice president make his case that those opposed to the Iraqi war fail to understand the importance of a firm response to terrorists. In fact, given the deleterious effect it has had on our effort in Afghanistan, and the enormous boost it has given to anti-American forces around the world, the big truth is that the Iraq war has damaged our ability to fight terrorism.
Americans were united in their response to the mass murders of 9/11. The war in Iraq has weakened the United States internationally and divided it domestically, while draining needed resources. It is precisely because the Iraq war is not defensible on any other terms that the Bush/Cheney approach uses the big lie to defend the war in Iraq on grounds that in fact describe the war in Afghanistan.
Barney is exactly on target.
That bears repeating, again.
But seriously, the voters “should have thought of that during the primary”?! WTF?! The voters did think about that during the primary, and decided to NOT vote for you to get you out of the race, yet.. here we are, indeed. Here we are dealing with you drawing out the Republican vote, endangering House seats just so you can lose the general election to the Democratic nominee. Awesome. So glad we’re all here. I’m so pissed I could open a “strong” tag AND NOT CLOSE IT! (ugh.. XHTML humor.. it’s not all that funny, is it?)
Just called the DSCC (202) 224-2447 to complain that one of their vice chairs-Mark Pryor of Arkansas is supporting the Independent-Joe Lieberman and the other vice chair- Blanche Lincoln will not say who she supports- I was one of the only calls they’ve gotten- The mission statement of the Democratic Senatorial Congressional Committee is to get Democrats elected to the Senate-WTF? Can’t we get more people to make those phone calls- While we’re at it- Hartford Courant has an article reflecting the less than full support of the Democratic leadership for Lamont-Running afraid that Lieberman might win- Of course he will if they don’t speak loud and clear- We need to call- Shumer, Reid -Pryor-Lincoln-
It makes a difference-Howard Dean has been very clear about this issue- Joe Lieberman is the past and Ned Lamont is part of the future New Direction Democrat-
everhopeful @
32
A more sinister explanation would be that the NSA wiretapping programs had already given Abu that information and more and he didn’t need or want to receive it from Taft, a human who could testify to that.
windje
Christy Hardin Smith @ 36
Even if he has some resume-fodder indicating government employment as a trial lawyer, there’s no reason to believe he’d actually gone to trial or was any good at it if he had. Plenty of prosecutors and civil govt attorneys are political hacks who the rest have to pick up the slack for (and the hacks usually get paid a lot more).
I still think so much of this hinges on Armitage’s credibility — would he really go to State and directly to State with the information without tipping the WH? I mean, he’s a moderate (supposedly — so he’s left of the clearly insame MFs), but does that mean he’s Switzerland? He remains a partisan in the employ of the WH who was working to disseminate information to smear someone. I know I have a low opinion of the guy, but I can’t say that I have a read on him specifically as to whether I think he’d be more scared of Cheney or DoJ.
The Gonzalez conundrum cuts both ways. He could be too dull to ask the follow up, or — he didn’t ask because he already knew and he was too dull to ask what he should have.
Joe Lieberman doesn’t care about the voters, he cares about his precious senate seat. He and the Republicans are using each other. Honor, dignity, commitment to democracy just don’t figure into Joe’s equasion. He wants to go back to Washington, good money to be had. The people of his party be damned. They didn’t vote for him in the primary so too bad for them, he has relieved himself of his duty and loyalty to the party.
Joe is beneath contempt, he’s gum stuck to the bottom of your shoe. It’s why he failed to win the primary. If he wins another term it will be all about Joe, all the time. He has his FU attitude packed and ready to go. Vote for Ned Lamont, Lieberman has screwed us enough.
I think the medical term is lesion.
-GSD
Kak, it was so great to meet you. You gotta find a way to comment more!
Remember that this is the little weasel who stabbed Clenis in the back but gore still put him on the ticket.
And then they came for the golf courses.
Chavez’ days are definately numbered now.
-GSD
Maybe a replica Senate “seat” could be presented to Joe: “Here’s your precious seat – NOW will you go away?”
Why do the pundits (led by Howard Kurtz, among others) and the dem “leadership” say that joe will caucus with the dems? Why does anyone at all believe this farce?
There is something deeply sick and rotten in our government right now.
It might be true that Harry Reid can’t do much at this time about Droopy Joe’s seniority, committee assignments, etc., but he certainly could speak out strongly about Lieberloser, strongly censuring his behavior and comments, urging him to drop out of the CT Senatorial race with this stupid and devisive Independent run.
GSD @ 95
oh oh oh — I have a pitbull named Hugo. About eleven years ago I had another pit named Najibollah and I had to break to him the news that his namesake had just been strung up on a lamppost in Kabul …
According to that transcript, Isikoff has more revelations coming next week ….
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14570837/
We’ll see …. I’m not sure I believe the Abu didn’t ask story.
TeddySanFran @ 74
Why would we assume it will take Joe 2 years? If the Senate goes 50 D and 49 R, Joe switches,it goes 50-50, Cheney as Senate Pres. casts the tie-breaking vote, and Joe becomes a Republican committee chair as a prize.
“Remember that this is the little weasel who stabbed Clenis in the back but gore still put him on the ticket.”
I’m counting on Gore having learned from his mistakes, and running again with a REAL Democrat as running mate. (I picture Gore about hurling everytime he reads about Ho-Jo.)
OT – If Fox news ratings are down, it is because all those viewers are switching to the all religion – all the time channels. Our charter cable system has 4 non-stop preachers and/or monks & nuns preaching. and there have been several ‘documentaries’ about how God created the earth and the “science” to go along with their version. The mind warping of America is ongoing.
ooo! msnbc has HoJo’s face and the headline under it that says, “Losing Steam”… very nice!
Sorry for the OT, but Investors Business Daily has weighed in with an op-ed blasting Fitz:
http://www.investors.com/edito…..4137262638
So this strategy gets them four possible wins:
1. Pretrial spin (to keep Libby on board)
2. Forcing Fitz to respond by revealing more evidence than he’d like
3. Pressure to drop charges outright
4. Cover for a post-midterm pardon
“Defense in depth” is a valid military strategem. This gambit needs to get cut off muy pronto.
Cocktail weenies in the NYT. I kid you not.
Gilliard has it.
Bowers, via Kos:
“Lieberman’s campaign losing steam” — next up on MSNBC.
1. Ms. Smith: I think up above you asked about Texas, and Gonzales. This little I do know, which may fit in to the picture- yes, Gonzales was a judge on our Texas Supreme Court. But down here, we have TWO courts, of equality, which are the “last stop” for appeals. The Texas Supreme Court ONLY hears civil cases. Civil ONLY! The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals only hears criminal cases. Criminal only! Both of these appellate courts sit down in our capitol, Austin. I’ve heard them referred to as “sister courts”. So, Mr. Abu, while a sitting judge, never ONCE heard a criminal case.
2. HoJo: I AM A BROKEN RECORD!!!! But damn it, one NEVER plays footsie with, toys with, or is diplomatic or sensitive towards…a traitor. Never! The rope, or the rifle shot are the only greetings and salutations to be given. (ropes/rifles spoken in figurative sense)
It is BEYOND ME why my Domocratic leaders cannot just stand up like a Man, and plainly tell this smelly traitor to go to hell. This event continues to be one that sickens my stomach. Most things I can intellectually discuss…but I just get pretty upset over this sack of shit Lieberman. Ok….I better read now!
Ghostman
TeddySanFran @ 108
it seems we have a car chase instead. Much more important.
Ive been trying to tell people for weeks that Lieberman is not going to be so easy to beat in the primary, specially after the q-poll showed him up by double digit…Now i know that 2 previous polls has showed the race closer, but i expected Lamont to be leading after the huge victory.
For Lamont to have a chance, he will have to break down lieberman’s entire democratic support which stands at 35%..this is too high and lamont MUST get it down to at least 15-20%…Now a lot of you guys feels like lieberman support among democrats will definatly drop that low, but im kind of worry about that..You see, the problem is that those 35% might be the hard core lieberman fans, that would never voe against him no matter what you say…If lamont cant convince them, then lamont wont win.
Also, my wish is that Lamont debates schlesinger hoping to raise his profile..thats the only hope for lamont to win if he cant break down lieberman democratic support.
yeah, but first msnbc showing us a police pursuit of a catering truck in dallas.
prolly carrying cocktail weenies.
Thanks, Bonnie Berger, for this in your 88:
I called just now too; the nice young man said that he has no statement from the chairman but would take down my comments and pass them along….
*ilson,
It looks like the Afghanis actually used a front-end loader.
-GSD
*Link not for the squeamish.
Actually, the closer I look, I think it is a balcony.
OT – Is there any way to search comments en masse?
angie @ 112
that’s just what I was thinking!
OldCoastie @
104
really? what is the context? is this on msnbc now?
Didn’t someone once post the DSCC’s regional chair’s contact numbers? Perhaps a mess of phone calls to our regional “leaders” would make a difference?
If you call their offices they get all excited saying they can’t take campaigning calls there.
your timing of 106 was impeccable, RevDeb.
Lieberman to consider Iraq pullout plan
Staff and agencies
29 August, 2006
NEW HAVEN, Conn. – Sen. Joe Lieberman , the three-term Democrat whose independent campaign for re-election is being seen as a referendum on the Iraq war, said Friday he would consider taking a look at a fellow lawmaker‘s proposal for a timeline for troop withdrawals.
“It seems to me that Chris is saying, maybe we ought to set some goals for when we want to get out, and I‘d like to see what he has in mind before I comment on it,” Lieberman said while campaigning in New Haven.
Shays proposed a timeline Thursday on a telephone conference call from London with reporters following his 14th visit to Iraq since the U.S.-led invasion in 2003.
Lieberman, the Democratic nominee for vice president in 2000, lost in this month‘s Democratic primary to millionaire businessman Ned Lamont. He had campaigned against Lieberman‘s support of the war and called the senator too close to Republicans and President Bush .
Lamont‘s campaign chairman, George Jepsen, suggested Lieberman might turn against Shays for supporting a timeline for troop withdrawal.
Shays is under fire for his support of the Iraq war in his race against Democratic challenger Diane Farrell. Shays narrowly held off Farrell‘s challenge in the 2004 election.
http://news.google.com/news?hl…..three-term senator’s campaign&ie=UTF-8&scoring=d
Joe’s “Party of Done”
RevDeb @ 110
… even more importantly, the car chase is OVER!
wankers.
sedrunsic @ 117
should be coming up… car chase now over
If the lazy MSM would get up off their duffs and do some work, they might ask this of Joe:
“Mr. Lieberman, are there some conditions under which you might change political parties and/or accept committee assignments from the Republican Party if they keep their majority in the U.S. Senate?”
All answers are toxic:
(1) No. (So why should Republicans in Connecticut support him?)
(2) Yes. (So the DSCC needs to get active to defeat him.)
(3) Equivocation — the most likely response. (See #2, above.)
next, on to the verdict of a murdered girl Dru Sjodin .
tin foil back on.
BQ @ 90
Or, Abu could have been doing a great job in his then position as legal counsel to the president. Heckuva job preserving plausible deniability for your client, Gonzo.
Rick DeVille @ 64
Manure requires composting to be really useful in gardening.
HoJo might even be useful after composting…
BC
more waiting for “HoJo losing steam” on msnbc… white girl murderer awaiting verdict now…
OT Anybody seen this? Isn’t New Symrna Beach Miss Lotus’ home town?
TeddySF – I got a call FROM the DSCC with a long spiel about taking back the Senate because of all the wrongs Bush has done and for accountability. When he had finished I told him I am donating to candidates in MN and to Lamont and a few others that the DSCC has abandoned or neglected. And I will not give Schumer more money to not spend on candidates willing to stand up and be counted.
He hung up.
GrandmaJ @ 103
religion has done more brain damage than all the LSD in history.
Leadership page from the DSCC website:
http://www.dscc.org/about/leadership/
Press the “Contact Your Senator” button or “Contact Us” button to write or call.
damn white girls always getting themselves murdered for media coverage…
snark – sorry very bad taste
Shays hugging Lieberman…two desperate men trying to reassure each other. Christopher Shays, (R) is in trouble with the Republican voters because of his position on the Iraq debacle. Why would Joe fare any better?
Big case in Fargo, thanks for the heads-up.
Sorry, Kyra, can’t wait around for your mea culpa.
TeddySanFran @ 132
I’m surprised they are claiming they have never heard about this issue with Pryor, et al…. I know I wrote them awhile back – guess they aren’t reading their emails…
GrandmaJ @ 130
Hi, GrandmaJ — I can’t condone a DSCC telemarketer hanging up on you! Please use the contact info page on the DSCC website to tell them your story — clearly the volunteers (or more likely hired boiler-room operatives) need better training… and manners!! Hope you are well!
OT– contessa brewer is stupid beyond belief. she cannot understand anything, despite it being explained several times by the legal bobblehead.
MSNBC Anchor-bot: guilty.
Can we get back to RGJoe “losing steam,” please? Lord, these ghouls are voyeur-pornographers of death….
Angie — they have their scripts. They cannot think for themselves. They are rewriting today’s on the fly…. part of why they stayed on the JonBenet Ramsey story so long…and still. Scripts approved by RoveCo for their distraction factor.
Maybe
Some
New
Bodies for
Cosby
op99 @ 126
true, when I read the comment saying he didn’t want to have a witness to be able to *say* he knew a my inner cynic went “ding-ding-ding”
she just said that the poor girl “was killed sometime between the time she was kidnapped and the time her body was found.”
brilliant.
I read this morning that Jack Kemp said “I guess you could say that I am a Lieberman Republican.”
oh, Teddy – I learned something interesting about Barbara Boxer’s email… I can’t remember which (of many) issues it was – prolley her endorsement of HoJo – but I couldn’t select an appropriate category for my complaint on her webpage… for some weird reason I chose “environmental issues” (it was late, made sense to me at the time). the other day, I got an email from her, thanking me for my interest in the issues and then going on to list her accomplishments on the environment…
seems to me they aren’t even bothering to read the emails – apparently some autobot is penning the responses…
Re:Armitage: This “intense loyalty to Colin Powell” meme reminded me of Larry Wilkerson, “Colin Powell’s right-hand man at the State Department.” His apparently off-the-reservation criticism last fall of the Cheney-Rumsfeld cabal – was that just frustration as it seemed at the time, or do we view that in a different light now that we know that Powell and Wilkerson may have known the Armitage thing was a potential time-bomb? I dunno, probably unrelated, just wondering. Discuss.
Gonzalez may not have been the brightest bulb in law school, but that is not his main problem. His trouble is that he is total tool for George Bush, and does not have the independence of thought or character to really fulfill the oath of his office. Which by the way includes protecting the Constitution.
Remember Elliot Richardson, who walked out on Nixon when he refused Nixon’s demand to fire the Watergate prosecutor? Whether he knew it at the time or not, Richardson was fighting the concept of the unitary executive. Abu is the polar opposite of Richardson … he is an enabler of the unitary concept. As far as I am concerned he is impeachable.
ccmask at 144 — oh heavens — do you remember where you read that gem?
christy– here:
Kemp said he admired Lieberman’s views on civil rights, defense, programs for public housing and economic development in depressed urban areas. “I’m kind of a Lieberman Republican, if you want to say that,” he said.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00998.html
From the Pioneer Press
Jack Kemp to campaign for Lieberman
SUSAN HAIGH
Associated Press
Christy — Kemp and Lieberman — JUICY!!! http://www.cei.org/gencon/020,01819.cfm
angie @ 143
…and I woke up this morning some time between the time I went to bed last night and the time I arrived at the office this morning.
Oh. My. Gawd.
angie @ 149
dingdingdingding! Thread title!
That’s it John Casper.
I guess I should post more of these links when I find them. I always think you guys are way ahead of me. I think I was first to find the Kemp article yesterday and now I’m glad I posted it.
new thread
This was maybe corrected in an earlier comment – I checked but could not see a correction.
Christy: “When asked about his Connecticut for Lieberman candidacy having a negative effect on Democrats…”
Kos and MyDD both have the full quote – Lieberman was apparently talking about embattled GOP candidates.
Sickening.
They? They? Who is “they”? The voters should have thought about his blackmail before voting. Joe bears no responsibility here – its all the fault of people who went to the polls and cast their vote for Ned Lamont.
Disgusting. Despicable. There aren’t enough words.
But at this point I am more disgusted with the Dems for putting up with this shit. Maybe they can’t strip him of his committee seats now, but they can certainly let him know that he can kiss his seniority goodbye in the future. They can also put public pressure on him. This makes me so mad!!!!!
*ilson46201 @
151
*ilson, thanks for the link. Juicy indeed. I clipped this from that article. Bear in mind, this is Kemp speaking in 2000 about Gore selecting Joe for VP:
What is despicable about Lieberman is not only does he campaign with Republicans, but Chris Shays is one of the three Republicans who could be beat by his Democratic challenger Diane Farrell. So Lieberman is not only unconcerned about the three races he sways towards the Republican side, but he actively supports that push. His attitude actually is anti-democratic and he is a cancer on the fabric of the Democratic party in Connecticut. Some radiation treatment might be appropriate.
GrandmaJ @ 103
Actually, I read that the Jesus lobby fights hard against making ala carte channel choices available for cable subscribers. If church channels weren’t included by law in the bundling, not many would pick them separately.
Maria @
111
I hear ya. The good news is, the Lamont campaign has not been sleeping! I expect a big push after Labor Day. I hope to spend some quality volunteer time soon.
RE: Bargain Countertenor at 127: “Manure requires composting to be really useful in gardening.
HoJo might even be useful after composting…”
————–
Point taken, and here’s hoping CT voters toss him on the mulch pile in November.
EPU at 116:
search these comments or all comments on the site?
Just these – ctrl F
all – beats the heck out of me
EPU: I would think that being omniscient and all, you would already know.
:-)
Kurt @
17
Well, at least one of mine was not deleted (look about half way down the linked page.
For what it’s worth, they’ve had various growing pains — links going wonjkers, crashes. & things getting mysteriously deleted / lost with no discernible bias over there since day one. I suspect that they grew as fast as they hoped, which was slightly faster than they were prepared for, and have been playing catch-up ever since.
Which, all in all, is good news in that it means that people are listening, getting involved. I don’t agree with everything I read on any site but I cherish my right to read all the various positions and form my own conclusions.
–MarkusQ
A really simple idea
When voting in November against the GOP/Neocons complete lack of Administration oversight, take a tip from the Iraqis who braved death squads, militias, insurgents and terrorists in training to cast their votes
Dye a finger purple
The more people with purple fingers showcased by the media, the harder it is to pull the same GOP-sanctioned after-election, false-victory shenanigans ala 2000 & 2004
And if purple fingers rile up the GOP’s media whores-Limbaugh, Hannity, Savage, Malkin, Coulter, O’Reilly, and their media outlets-Fox News, Powerline, Red State, etc, then so much the better
have people been spotlighting this?
“Yes, here we are, you odious Turncoat.”
Lol! Thanks, I needed that! Now help me wipe up the coffee I sprayed to kingdom come.
And here’s another thing. The closing Fux News remark is to the effect that Democrats are now increasingly fearful that Lieberman’s primary loss is gonna backfire on them.
I know no CT Dem who is fearful or growing fearful. Considering a distant and hypothetical possibility is not fear, it is weighing possible outcomes and merely part of any well thought-out strategy before a contest/battle/competition/invasion/etc.
Then again, silly me. This is a concept the current administration and its apologists seem to be wholly incapable of understanding.
Ms Smith, plse give me the courtesy of letting me know that I am not welcomed on this blog.
That doesn’t look like Groton.