(Transcript reprinted from Keith Olbermann's Blog)
Aug. 30, 2006 | 8:34 p.m. ET
Feeling morally, intellectually confused?
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The man who sees absolutes, where all other men see nuances and shades of meaning, is either a prophet, or a quack.
Donald H. Rumsfeld is not a prophet.
Mr. Rumsfeld’s remarkable speech to the American Legion yesterday demands the deep analysis—and the sober contemplation—of every American.
For it did not merely serve to impugn the morality or intelligence -- indeed, the loyalty -- of the majority of Americans who oppose the transient occupants of the highest offices in the land. Worse, still, it credits those same transient occupants -- our employees -- with a total omniscience; a total omniscience which neither common sense, nor this administration’s track record at home or abroad, suggests they deserve.
Dissent and disagreement with government is the life’s blood of human freedom; and not merely because it is the first roadblock against the kind of tyranny the men Mr. Rumsfeld likes to think of as “his” troops still fight, this very evening, in Iraq.
It is also essential. Because just every once in awhile it is right and the power to which it speaks, is wrong.
In a small irony, however, Mr. Rumsfeld’s speechwriter was adroit in invoking the memory of the appeasement of the Nazis. For in their time, there was another government faced with true peril—with a growing evil—powerful and remorseless.
That government, like Mr. Rumsfeld’s, had a monopoly on all the facts. It, too, had the “secret information.” It alone had the true picture of the threat. It too dismissed and insulted its critics in terms like Mr. Rumsfeld’s -- questioning their intellect and their morality.
That government was England’s, in the 1930’s.
It knew Hitler posed no true threat to Europe, let alone England.
It knew Germany was not re-arming, in violation of all treaties and accords.
It knew that the hard evidence it received, which contradicted its own policies, its own conclusions — its own omniscience -- needed to be dismissed.
The English government of Neville Chamberlain already knew the truth.
Most relevant of all — it “knew” that its staunchest critics needed to be marginalized and isolated. In fact, it portrayed the foremost of them as a blood-thirsty war-monger who was, if not truly senile, at best morally or intellectually confused.
That critic’s name was Winston Churchill.
Sadly, we have no Winston Churchills evident among us this evening. We have only Donald Rumsfelds, demonizing disagreement, the way Neville Chamberlain demonized Winston Churchill.
History — and 163 million pounds of Luftwaffe bombs over England — have taught us that all Mr. Chamberlain had was his certainty — and his own confusion. A confusion that suggested that the office can not only make the man, but that the office can also make the facts.
Thus, did Mr. Rumsfeld make an apt historical analogy.
Excepting the fact, that he has the battery plugged in backwards.
His government, absolute -- and exclusive -- in its knowledge, is not the modern version of the one which stood up to the Nazis.
It is the modern version of the government of Neville Chamberlain.
But back to today’s Omniscient ones.
That, about which Mr. Rumsfeld is confused is simply this: This is a Democracy. Still. Sometimes just barely.
And, as such, all voices count -- not just his.
Had he or his president perhaps proven any of their prior claims of omniscience — about Osama Bin Laden’s plans five years ago, about Saddam Hussein’s weapons four years ago, about Hurricane Katrina’s impact one year ago — we all might be able to swallow hard, and accept their “omniscience” as a bearable, even useful recipe, of fact, plus ego.
But, to date, this government has proved little besides its own arrogance, and its own hubris.
Mr. Rumsfeld is also personally confused, morally or intellectually, about his own standing in this matter. From Iraq to Katrina, to the entire “Fog of Fear” which continues to envelop this nation, he, Mr. Bush, Mr. Cheney, and their cronies have — inadvertently or intentionally — profited and benefited, both personally, and politically.
And yet he can stand up, in public, and question the morality and the intellect of those of us who dare ask just for the receipt for the Emporer’s New Clothes?
In what country was Mr. Rumsfeld raised? As a child, of whose heroism did he read? On what side of the battle for freedom did he dream one day to fight? With what country has he confused the United States of America?
The confusion we -- as its citizens— must now address, is stark and forbidding.
But variations of it have faced our forefathers, when men like Nixon and McCarthy and Curtis LeMay have darkened our skies and obscured our flag. Note -- with hope in your heart — that those earlier Americans always found their way to the light, and we can, too.
The confusion is about whether this Secretary of Defense, and this administration, are in fact now accomplishing what they claim the terrorists seek: The destruction of our freedoms, the very ones for which the same veterans Mr. Rumsfeld addressed yesterday in Salt Lake City, so valiantly fought.
And about Mr. Rumsfeld’s other main assertion, that this country faces a “new type of fascism.”
As he was correct to remind us how a government that knew everything could get everything wrong, so too was he right when he said that -- though probably not in the way he thought he meant it.
This country faces a new type of fascism - indeed.
Although I presumptuously use his sign-off each night, in feeble tribute, I have utterly no claim to the words of the exemplary journalist Edward R. Murrow.
But never in the trial of a thousand years of writing could I come close to matching how he phrased a warning to an earlier generation of us, at a time when other politicians thought they (and they alone) knew everything, and branded those who disagreed: “confused” or “immoral.”
Thus, forgive me, for reading Murrow, in full:
“We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty,” he said, in 1954. “We must remember always that accusation is not proof, and that conviction depends upon evidence and due process of law.
“We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven by fear into an age of unreason, if we dig deep in our history and our doctrine, and remember that we are not descended from fearful men, not from men who feared to write, to speak, to associate, and to defend causes that were for the moment unpopular.”
And so good night, and good luck.
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KO!
Olbermann really did rock. A shame that there aren’t more of him.
EPUd. disgusting.
just got done watching/listening to this epic piece. these are dark times.
Had Enough? I think so…….
Dark Times? Too Dark………………
Just when you think there is no one left in the MSM who is willing to pick up the mantle of Edward R. Murrow and say what has to be Keith Olberman proved there is, at least one person will
Mr Olberman said what HAD to be said, said it with conviction, determination and above all CLASS. ing to do just that.
As Olberman downloads, my EPUd comments:
TRex, you need to eat real food. Did you really get the black macbook?
Just back from the annual gig at the Alaska State Fair. Boy, was our band good tonight!
Way to break the ‘no full quote’ rule
;>)
punaise @
4
Aye, that they are…but didn’t this help? Now it’s that much more permissible to say so, at least.
two goodies in one - Trex on the run and KO!
Thanks Trex!
and now I really am going to sleep…
sweet dreams all!
a) so who will be our Churchill? is it a collective role in which we play a part?
b) will anybody to the right of _____ (fill in the name of a token centrist) hear this, take heed, even care?
Keith rocks. And his numbers are going up just as Fox’s are coming down.
Hot damn!
Thanks Trex for posting this.
Yeaaah Olbermann!..He was moved and so was I.
Nite all.
EPU’d
and
There, are you kids happy now?
I hope I don’t get in trouble for this.
dayam it, does this mean i’m the dirty gerstein?
Listening to Olberman, I’m really glad I never joined the American Legion. When I got out of the Army in 1967, both the Legion and VFW were giving Vietnam vets a hard time when they tried to join. Both organizations struck me as racist, but the Legion struck me as, well ……… fascist.
I never joined VFW either, or Amvets or any of the disabled vet orgs. Nor any of the anti-war orgs. The only vet-type org I’m a paying member of is Bugles Across America, which is apolitical and just performs a service for vets.
I’m interested in finding out what kinds of recently discharged and retired veterans are joining which veterans organizations out there and why.
Just finished Olberman. In spite of his protestation - Murrowesque.
Ed*ard Teller @
7
ha - me too, so I saw your comments over there.
Did you catch the PDQ Bach link I posted the other night? — hard to tell in these behemoth threads our Theropod inspires…
Suzanne @ 16
huh?
TRex @ 16
If it’s not this, it’ll be something else. Trouble starts with TRex! Thanks for posting this, I already emailed Olbermann, I bet he’ll be swamped. All America should have to watch him ask these questions and frame the debate the way he did. Keith’s an American hero today.
If GE/MSNBC keeps him another month, I’ll be amazed. It’s surely not in their business plan. Welcome to the blogosphere, Keith, it’s the next big thing….
TRex @
16
TRex, you are so cute.
pun:
TRex @ 211
Okay, okay.
I did it.
NEW THREAD!!
Last one in’s a dirty Danny Gerstein!!
BQ - I bookmarked it and hope to play it tomorrow after work. Can’t wait. I’m listening to work-related music right now - my 2nd Brass Quintet. Prepping to mail it out to some people who want to play it.
It was just a few short years ago that Keith got called into his managers office because he dared to have Al Franken on one night, and then Janeane Garafalo [b]the next night[/b]. Manager thought maybe they were having on too many liberals. Now, his ratings are up 55% and he’s speaking truth to power! We are making progress!
He’s telling the truth, and I bet it feels like hell!
Suzanne, that’s what I get for bailing out of that thread early: the befuddled look. On the plus side, I did score a zero.
Watched that. Oh yeah. Right on. Perfect pitch.
Thank you, TRex, for posting this. I know you are tired and I appreciate the extra effort. Thank you.
For everyone that was at the secret FLD Bob’s Big Boy meetup last night, a buddy of mine told me today that until he moved away, Olbermann used to come to Bob’s every Friday night and hang out at the Hot Rod Car show deal in the parking lot with some kind of cool car. My friend said he was just a regular dude.
from needlenose:
Keith has become a hero. He has been one of the very few in the “mainstream media” have been has spoken the truth form the beginning.
He is the antithesis of of Brian Williams. Not that is a pansy ass administration butt smoocher.
ET
Good to know. Just clips, but it gives the overall feel. I especially like the introductory recitative.
Keith has become a hero. He has been one of the very few in the “mainstream media” that has spoken the truth from the beginning.
He is the antithesis of of Brian Williams. Now that is a pansy-ass George Bush butt smoocher.
d r i f t g l a s s weighs in:
bdu @ 26
Oh, I’ll bet it feels great now—though I wouldn’t want to feel the way he probably felt 5 minutes before showtime.
prostratedragon @ 36
Oh, I’m sure it felt great to KO, it’s the targets that think it’s hell.
Jack Welch wouldn’t have stood for it, he would’ve stormed into the studio and pulled the plug on Keith himself. Wonder if Keith’s courageous act — exactly the courage Dan Rather asked his colleagues to exhibit! — will cause any anchor-bots to grow a pair.
Tweety?
Brian?
Katie? {chortle}
Kyra?
Oh-oh-oh, sorry, I misunderstood!
Yes, I hope they feel like it’s at least a live possibility for them—cause it is.
Rumsfeld’s entire road trip this past week - Alaska, Utah, Nevada - was designed to show that the Bushista putsch is sticking with their made man here (how many metaphors and ethnic backgrounds did THAT phrase mix, pups?).
He stuck to the same talking points all the other slaves have been handed, but the important thing to realize is that this isn’t his swan song, it is the prelude to his next act. Guess what that will be?
Noron? {snort!}
No! We cannot let these madmen lead the world into WW3 by attacking Iran.
They must be stopped.
TRex @
39
OK, I’m trying in vain to get caught up here. Can’t stand Kyra. Did she do something that I should know about? Laugh about?
Rummy might not make it long enough for Lieberschmuck to replace him. Oh noes!
prostratedragon @ 40
s’ok, i knew as soon as I hit submit someone would read it wrong. Oh, and I must say, your username has a rather amusing picture in my head.
ReneND @ 44
She left her mic on while she used the restroom, during a Chimpenfuhrer “speech”. The dialogue caught on tape during the live feed was pretty amusing hehe.
Kurt @ 45
What makes you think he’s going to be replaced?
ReneND @ 44
You haven’t heard? Really?
Rene, start here: http://www.wonkette.com/politi.....197452.php
Okay, y’all. Time for bed.
And yes, Valley Girl, you know I love Cadbury chocolate.
Although the eggs not so much. Too much goo. Not enough chocolate.
nite, TRex, and thanks again. for all you do :)
Ed*ard Teller @ 48
Well Iraq and Afghanistan are falling apart so badly even the press and goopers are admitting it. But mere incompetence wouldn’t get anyone in this admin canned. But after Olbermann’s smackdown, and Pelosi publicly saying his judgement is “impaired”, I don’t think even this craptacular admin will be able to keep him around.
Just my own speculation though, haven’t heard anything from any source or anything.
Brit Cadbury is better, but American is good, too.
TRex @ 49
It’s 2 in the morning and I’m just starting to work backwards towards monday.It’s hopeless with 100’s of comments per day. No, hadn’t heard about that. Kyras Karma Came to Call.
Thanks for posting this Trex. I’m emailing it to everyone I know.
I love Keith Olbermann and want to have his children. Yeah, I know, get in line. ;)
Glad you and Ned TFK made it to the safe house. Now get some sleep!
g’nite dear pups, chat atcha in the a.m.!
The weak spot in Olberman’s wonderful rant is this section:
It alone had the true picture of the threat. It too dismissed and insulted its critics in terms like Mr. Rumsfeld’s — questioning their intellect and their morality.
Thye problem with his statement is in the first sentence, he probably should have said “It alone THOUGHT it had……..”
Many people might have been confused by that statement as to what the gist was of the following comments.
salon.com
Kurt @ #53:
The campaign planning for Iran is too far along to deal with getting rid of this guy and going through the public confirmation process of his replacement. The reasons you cited are rather trivial - sorry.
knot @ 6,
Edward R. Murrow is who I thought of, too.
Olberman is clearly worried (as we all here at FDL are) about these neo-fascist calling us fascists. Its been going on for a while, but for this administration to start calling us fascists (in league with Iran-o-fascists and therefore traitors) appeasers is too clearly “the big lie”, too newspeak, too overt not to be evidence that something scary is coming. Maybe we still have time to stop ‘em and Godbless Keith for standing up to these scumbags.
in re: Kyra Phillips, she was local here in L.A. before CNN, for reasons really seriously not understood, picked her for nationwide.
i dunno…
mark,
“Iran-o-fascists” - hadn’t seen that one yet, but I’m sure it is out there.
Islamofascists
makaka
nigra
same people say these things.
Ed*ward Teller @ 48,
I think Bush is countersuggestive. Even if he hears an idea that’s not half bad…or even one he likes, the very fact that someone wants him to do something he didn’t originally think of doing threatens his authoritay and he won’t do it.
So no, I don’t think he’ll replace Rummy.
I’ve got the Keith Olbermann video up on YouTube now for anyone that wants it. If you re-stream it, make sure to give a link to Crooks and Liars for editing it and posting it so fast.
Keith Olbermann Takes Donald Rumsfeld To Task!
Spread it around folks!
Margot,
He is very countersuggestive, but he’s not calling many of the shots here. Probably very, very few of them, and those are mostly in-house things to placate his narcisism.
And if you’re still up and paying attention TRex my friend… Great snark posts!
And even though I know you’re trying to recover amigo, I’m afraid I like you better as a junkie. It’s like the principle of sending your drunk and obnoxious neighbor down the street to the other neighbors house you like even less.
I love siccing a 60′ft Carnivore, binging on a three-day Snark bender upon the reich-wing.
To hell with a “Pox”. I cast a “TRex” upon all their houses!
E. Teller, me neither. Its kind of an homage to my second favorite blog “World-O-Crap”. BTW, I agree with your analogy of the AL being fascist. I’m sure Herr Rumsfeld picked that audience on purpose, the home of “Love it or Leave it”. My response to that has always been either:
“Democracy, love it or leave it” or
“Don’t like dissent? Move to Cuba.”
TRex @
51
You know, they have ones with chocolate goo inside…
Ed*ard Teller @ 58
I think it was intended to have more emphasis/inflection on the phrases “It alone” and “the true picture,” which would better convey the view that the admin is paternalistic and arrogant. I think Keith was just nervous and didn’t give the performance he envisioned at that moment.
got goosebumps from Murrow’s words, again - he’s still the best.
btw, good luck with your composition work - I adore a good brass performance.
night all. Re Plame and Brewster/Jennings, Armitage is the key. It has to do with payback for the way Iran/Contra went down. And with people who couldn’t control themselves when Cheney let the word out in June 2003 through his grapevine that the Wilson-Plame relationship in the Niger trip was skanky, which it wasn’t.
Armitage wasn’t “gossiping.” He was reacting.
They never dreamed Tenant would do HIS payback.
Night, ET
Ed*ard Teller @
72
ET: I didn’t keep up Iran/Contra. Can you provide a bit more explanation about how it went down?
OT
NRSC scared of Sherrod Brown - and their ad people need spell check.
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.....brown_race
Funny thing –
in the comments there’s a link to BSB (BuckeyeStateBlog) which has a screenshot of the ad “Sherrod Brown let us dowm.” It’s at :15 seconds in the ad, but link thru if you don’t want to wait for the video.
also tries to paint Brown as the “insider-part-of-the-problem-candidate”
Wonder how much of the 650K went to the geniuses that put that one together.
I don’t know about anybody else, but it struck me as particularly foul that Rumsfeld would choose this setting for this speech. There were, I’m sure, WWII vets in the audience. To compare this failed imperialist adventure to defeating the Nazi invasion in Europe is an insult to their service.
Watching and listening to Olberman tonight, I heard the voice of Murrow come through as if from the other side and from an era long gone. Had Keith not closed with the Murrow quote, I know many of us would have noted the channeling of the great and courageous broadcaster.
roberto @ 77
Keith has been heading for this for quite a while. He writes like a guy with no fear, as journalists are supposed to, and his contemporaries should hang their heads in shame. Like Murrow, he knows that real Patriots stand up, and they do it in the face of brutal opposition.
I hear the distant whine of swiftboats working their way up-river, and so does Keith - he knows what’s coming.
Balls.
BQ @ 75 the ad…also tries to paint Brown as the “insider-part-of-the-problem-candidate”
As opposed to, say, *Senator* DeWine, who has been obstructing the nation’s business on Judiciary?
A TOAST TO OLBERMANN — OUR HERO
Curious in Central Texas @
74
Oh Tenant! Wow, ETell, that does make sense.
I am not presuming to speak for Ed*ard Teller, but I think he’s checked out for the evening, and I happen to have been reading up on Rich lately myself, so here’s my take on what ETell might have meant.
Armitage’s role in Iran-Contra was to stay surreptitiously in a loop that his boss was supposed to seem out of, and thereby to keep his boss (Sec. of Defense Caspar Weinberger, who was also Colin Powell’s boss at the time) in the loop in reality. This is described clearly in the Walsh Report where, if you follow the Armitage trail through the index, you can see that he had access to certain reports, probably off the books, that he read and then described to Weinberger, and also stayed in touch with certain people in other departments. No doubt some of the latter contacts took place in the semi-open, and might have been staged to look a bit like gossip.
Anyway, it was through these activities of Armitage that Weinberger stayed hip to the negotiations between the Iranians and Israelis over arms shipments, and iIrc also to the money the Saudis were paying to the Contras in Nicaragua on behalf of spooky ol’ Uncle Sam. Of course, it was Weinberger’s notes on the Armitage debriefings that got Weinberger indicted; BushSr’s pardon of Weinberger saved not only CW [and possibly GHWB], but also kept Armitage from having to testify. That in turn, probably kept a bunch of stuff from being validated in court—materials and methods, know what I’m saying—and made it easier to obscure exactly who was doing what, and why, even despite Walsh’s carefully written report. (The report is quite readable, btw, though I just use it mostly for reference whenever a familiar name comes up.)
So now in the GWBadministration, Armitage comes in under Powell, just as he had been Weinberger’s Asst. Sec. No secret to anyone in on WH/OVP manuevers, I’m sure, that to keep Powell out of the loop you also had to keep Armitage out. This, they frequently wanted to do. [Here endeth my first thoughts; from this point, I’m trying to make sense of Ed*ard Teller’s intriguing remark, in light of what I’ve just written which I believe to be kinda correct-y] But suppose Armitage didn’t feel that his responsibilities began and ended with what the Cabal thought he should do, and furthermore suppose that this fact, together with what other things he might have known from gossiping all about, and with his own discretion as to how to use them, made him a sort of land mine for some ambling reporter, grown perhaps too used to being fed stuff by the Cabal, to step on.
Hmmmmm …
The administration’s definition of the the current war as being against a type of fascisism reveals their basic misunderstanding of this conflict, and one of the key reasons they are not managing it well: this is guerilla warfare, not a war against an army or nation of any kind. The parallel they try to draw to Nazis or Italian fascists reveal their antique, Euro-centric thinking.
We should point out how wrong their take is. Of course, Viet Nam is the proper parallel, and I think a chart could be drawn up easily showing this.
newtonusr >”…he knows what’s coming…”
As do we all if we admit it
It is going to get nastier but there is better stuff on the other side of it
“Self-mastery is the key to the portals of the universe” - Joseph W. Kittinger
egregious,
yeah, bizarro world, I know…
daCascadian @ 82
We’d like to believe that the CM will shake off their fear and deny these mendacious bastards one more inch, but there are few with the requisite integrity.
That is not to imply that their mission should be to take down an administration; rather, just to be truth-tellers. The take-downs would take care of themselves. The better stuff.
Thanks prostratedragon for your comment at August 31st, 2006 at 1:53 am* I’m reading the Walsh Report now.
Sure thing, Curious(85)!
Another Oh, Doctor moment, courtesy of War&Piece:
Sure thing, Curious(85)!
Meanwhile, another Oh Doctor moment from War&Piece
From the Rocky Moutain News: Salazar demands Rumsfeld be fired
“Defense secretary’s salvo at war critics angers Democrats”
Big props to Jane, Christy, Pach, TRex, and all the FDL posters and commenters. This isn’t “enough,” by a long shot, but it’s “significant.” imho.
Good morning lotus, hope you are well and hope the power is on.
Well Good Morning America. Wake up and smell the coffee. Is MR K O running for office somewhere, because he’s talking like the kind of people I’d like to see and like everyone else to see in public office. Imagine if such sanity were heard daily over the airwaves. We’d be well on on our way towards a healthy recovery of the principles of this nation. Thanks for the transcript,T’Rex.
And so, 50 degrees, clear and sunny at the eastern portal of the indigenous peoples of Turtle Island.
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Hi John, thanks for that link. What all this means now is yet to be revealed. I think it was Egregious yesterday who was commenting on the timing of the Armitage “confession” information and who suggested that the reason for that to be happening now was to deflect our attention from the utter failures of the federal government wrt the Katrina flooding disaster.
While it’s more than time for all these b*stards to be given the boot, this symantical battle still smells like more Karl Rove. And words do matter enormously, don’t get me wrong, but as folk here remind us all the time, we have to keep our eyes on so much sh*t all at once. For the GOP spin machine to maintain its hold, we have to be kept confused by the peripheral, thus this sort of speech from Rumsfeld.
I just hope that they aren’t leading us into another of their horrible (pick your month) surprises.
Mornin’, OS. Now about that cawfee . . .
emptywheel’s take on Armitage, Primary source.
#87-What game is Ken “Nighthorse” Salazar playing?
Is he trying to get Dumbsfeld’s job for his buddy Lieberman?
If we could bestow knighthoods in this country…Sir Olbermann!
I have not only had enough, I’m fed up. I’m trying to wipe my brain of the fact that Newt Gringrich coined had enough. (What parent names their kid Newt anyway, no matter how fitting? Oh wait, that is insulting to salamanders.)
Read about FDD-Foundation for Defense of Democracies-(link from Alice Marshall yesterday). Not only is Lieberman & Shumer involved but Kristol, Perle, Gary Bauer. Woolsey, Zell Miller, etc, but there are kudos from bush, Wolfowitz, American Conservative Mag, Kathryn Lopez, Hugh Hewitt, Michael Barone, etc. I forget the name of the other org that Lieberman is on with Lynne Cheney but I do remember that I read that they wanted to suppress anti-war talk on college campuses..so unpatriotic in time of war, ya know. Bipartisanship Joe has never heard of the adage that we are judged by the company we keep.
What’s up with Air America firing Mike Malloy? This just after the threat of losing Sam Seder. I hope today reveals more info. We get XM radio at home & in car…I may just be calling XM to cancel if Air America is going fubur. Only good thing would be to cancel Springer.
Our gassy leader saying to Williams on Katrina help, “we delivered”. Ha, he didn’t say who they delivered to..can we say rebuilding contractors first? He also said terrists want a safe haven, would love to get ahold of oil, & have territorial ambitions.” Astounding!! 2 out of 3 describes this adm to a tee. I think Hope said it right on, projection, projection, projection.
Gas is going down, maybe to $2 by Thanksgiving…how nice just as election fever is heating up.
Those are my thoughts this am..now for the coffee hit to make it through another twilight zone day in the usa.
Aloha IronRanger…
Here’s a link to to Lynne Cheney/Joe Lieberman college professor blacklist project. Link is the second sentence of the post.
Joe McCarthy, Lynney Cheney & Joe Lieberman. It dates back to 2001.
holds out coffee pot to pour….’ere, Lotus..nice to see you again
In his latest column tracing the increasingly Orestian peregrinations of George W. Bush, Sidney Blumenthal (at Salon; you have to watch an ad, which today is pretty short, first) gives us a portrait of a man in peril of the last throes of his sanity. Here are a few widely spaced quotes from a fairly long article.
Bush doesn’t sound like he’s doing too well, either.
Big reconstruction effort paying off, that. Please consult Mr. Blumenthal for Mister Bush’s remarks on momentum, and a genuinely chilling side trip to what Rumsfeld is ignoring in Iraq, among other things.
Reading this, I can practically see the two “1″s of “11″ —like images of the two towers— surrounding Bush. Sidney Blumenthal is shrill, shrill.
humph, mmmm, rrrr. Good morning all…
Up late last night — very sleepy. Coffee?
Thanks, OS. Boy, does that taste fine this morning!
How ’bout some of these nice fat ripe figs? Who wants some?
‘ere, imm, mawnin’ to y’all, nice day in Boston?
Wow.
Here’s a bookend for Mr. O’s important intellectual challenge to Americans;
http://salon.com/opinion/blume.....print.html
‘Remembrance of Bush’s fiascoes’
by Sidney Blumenthal
Thanks, OS.
Well well, there is a flowah here as well….
So, is there some actual push back against Rumsfeld? Reid had a great statement. Salazar?! actually stood up to be counted….
I wonder what Joe L. thinks besides — “Rummy sounds about right to me.” Has anyone asked him yet? Great sport in that, I would think.
that Sidney Blumenthal!!! thanks for the link, moeman
Hi there, imm. How’re your new batch of students? Still in shock or starting to Love the Law?
mornin’ all,
refresh comments button missing, but the petaled one is here - fair trade
They already love the law, those sweet pilgrims — but they are worried I am too “theoretical.” Hah! We have talked for just two classes about underlying theories of punishment in Criminal Law and they are already complaining. They will make fine lawyers.
*ilson, if that’s you springing me from mod, Many Thanks!
Hi there, cbl! Sweet of you to say that, but RefCom has way more utility, I’m a-thinkin’.
cbl, do you have preview button? (Mine is missing along with refresh comments.) How inconvenient to have to refresh the whole PAGE to enjoy a little time at the Lake this morning…never mind I should have to proofread more carefully in the “compose” area……
OS, cbl everyone — Try Firefox yet? I can even edit my comments on that browser.
Mornin’ all - dark and dreary here this morning - more rumors of rain, but so far just the occasional weak drizzle. Maybe tomorrow, the remnants of Ernesto.
Happy to see you this morning, lotus…you’ve been missed!
OS - am missing the same buttons - almost hit spell check thinking it was the preview button…gotta get my peepers ALL the way open…
yes OS, preview and refresh are both missing - I’ve gone out and back in twice to no avail - it will have to do for now - was worried I’d been tiered out of FDL Select - jes grateful t/b among ya - and really don’t want to sound all WATB as some have in the past with the slightest of changes here
and moeman if you’re here - I heart Blumenthal as well - thanks
Anne, I wasn’t able to get you a post when it mattered, but happy belated birthday!
I remember being fascinated with those theories in Crim Law, imm.
Since Andrew hit town the very day my 1L experience was scheduled to begin, it’s hard to know whether this was representative, but: Quite a chunk of my class at U of Miami Law didn’t finish the first week (when it actually came to pass, three weeks late). Yours are hanging in nicely, though?
FDL select (snort)
Hey, imm - thanks! The wishes that come later just stretch out the fun…*g*
http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/
thanks for the reminder, imm, I just downloaded that to the laptop
Is there supposed to be a YouTube at the top of the post? Not seeing that either.
Hugs to you, Anne. Hope those remnants are all tatters and rags by the time they reach you.
Here, last night was just a customary drippy Florida August night. Have ccmask, FishGuyDave, and other folks south of me checked in yet?
Hope they’re all okay and have their A/C back by now.
yes imm, thanks for the Firefox tip - and OS for the link - here goes - back on the flip
Mornin all
Rachel is now playing KO’s epic piece on AAR
Well then, Anne, keep stretchin’ with my belated HB greetings. 29 again?
Oh, yeah, OS - for the 24th time!
Ed Encho nails it:
“The Democratic Party itself has become so inundated with corporate hacks and compliant appeasers that it has lost its ability to act as a check on power run amok, and its fecklessness in the face of aggression bears one hell of a lot of the responsibility for the current state of this country. When contemptible bagmen of low morals like Rahm Emanuel who would eagerly blow a flock of goats for corporate donations represent the ‘leadership’ of a party that was formerly a champion of the working class we are in essence fucked barring a resurgence of the good ole style Louisiana style populism of a Huey Long that can cut through the fear mongering and superstitiously divisive phony religious horseshit and get the message out that the system itself is rigged. When you have a so-called opposition party whose only message seems to consist of: Vote for us because we are less fascist than the Republicans but only slightly less so. then we as a country are truly in dire straits.”
Thanks Nate..it’s interesting that when I was not obsessively researching for every bit of info (before the crooks took over), I & others not so informed, instinctively had distrust & aversion towards Lieberman. He didn’t come across as a true dem. There was plenty of evidence to back that up on the internet but little in msm. If I could ask Joe & other so-called dems like him anything, I would ask them for their totally honest definition of democracy which look to be in the republcan camp. Like they would actually willingly reveal their true agendas. They are aiders & abettors of democracy highjacking.
LOL, Anne, I observed my 27th 29th this year.
The stockholders of Hell, Inc. are reported to be stocking up on extra accelerant for the eventual arrival of don rumsfeld.
FWIW, up at comment 90, 3:46, I linked to emptywheel’s take on the Armitage spin.
Great to see you lotus.
Anne & OS, you cute li’l puppies. Here I am, reversing thrusters for landing on my 30th 29th — so there, nyah!
Mornin’ all! how goes it?
LOTUS!! How are ya? Good to have you back!!
as I recall, that INR memo had the one paragraph about Valerie-whats-her-name marked with a special classification authority level to indicate that info was especially classified … a careful bureaucrat like Armitage would have noticed that and treated that info differently …
Thank you, John C. ‘Tis mutual.
Olbermann’s speech last night was excellent. Sometimes I wish I hadn’t spent so many years reading freshman-comp papers, though — still have this raging need to go after certain comma-placements with a green pen — and his script aroused it. My problem, not his . . .
(throws arm-petals around twolfie)
Babycakes! How you?
Jeez, I’m causing one helluva lotta work for our moderator here. Maybe I better hush again.
lotus @ 131
I’m good. Just waitin for the rain to start… again. Did you get much wind/rain from Mr. Ernesto?
Be careful about comma-placement quibbles! Recently Gore Vidal reviewed his early works for republication — he was struck at how punctuation guidelines had changed over the years — he ended up doing massive jot & tiddle revisions …
Hey everybody! Back at work here today. Ernesto was full of water and not much else. Got about 10 gallons of water in my bedroom and that was fine by me. Wooohoooo. Good to see Lotus made it fine too, I see. Haven’t read anything since yesterday…
‘Em jot & tiddles’ll get ya every time. Drive ya ta drinky.
cc, that’s okay. Nothing happened. Glad you made it through Ernie w/out problems.
It’s not a new kind of fascism that KO is talking about. It’s the same old kind, and Rumsfeld is one of its major advocates.
HEY, cc!
Gah, sorry about you bedroom. Did a door or window give in or something? Did Lake O behave?
I love the punctuation informality of “internet writing” — “em-dashes” are so useful … as are ellipses. Deprecated perhaps but expressive in terse, pithy comments …
Hey, y’all. Just sent lotus an e-mail (welcome back!) — yeah, south Florida made out just fine. Not even much rain, just some gusty winds here and there. Time to turn our thoughts to the Carolinas, I’m afraid.
Glad I wasn’t the only one that got chills from KO last night. How many others also wondered where *our* Churchill is right now?
aaaannndddd …we’re back
ccmask - glad you’re ok and great attitude too, though 10 gallons doesn’t sound like too much fun
So will Little Lord Fartleroy’s speech today in SLC mirror Rummy’s ‘fascist’ speech? Or will it be toned down in a reaction to the criticism of rummy’s?
KO for president!
new thread: “A Moment of Zen”
hell, we are our own collective Churchills now - saw plenty of so called Mormon Smiles in those SLC pics yesterday - way to go MSRNC, the Mayor of not just any major city but the Mormon city out protesting the Chimp and all I saw was the Jeffs mugshot ad nauseum
new thread…
I’ll tell you what, the democrats NEED to schedule a cam[aign specifically around the presidents “tour”, and they need to address the claims each and every stop the president tries ot promote his propaganda
I GUARANTEE that tour will come to a schreeching halt…I guarntee it
Kudos to KO! Props to the SLC mayor and progressives! The full-Rove press will be on to try to bully us into shutting up. Not this time.
Time to find and broadcast everywhere that vidclip of Bush in spring 2001 saying he didn’t have a problem with dictatorships as long as he got to be dictator.
What part of democracy don’t you understand, Fartacus?
Lotus! Good morning :) It’s good to see you.
well, ah swan ta goodness…
that u lotus? good ta see ya.
you swat off that Ernesto-fella o.k.?
ah’m think this gon’ be’n good day sure ;->
Heighdy, Adie & LindyH!
(Sorry, phone call delayed my getting back to you, but I’m mighty happy to be here, moderated or no.)
At the risk of being morally & intellectually confused, KO rocked last night. It’s great to have our voices shared & transmitted by Keith.
Yes TRex, very happy now. Thank you.
I read Olbermann’s remarks last night (thanks oddball, I think it was) and again this morning. Moved me to tears. Nothing like truth to just resonate.
ot, but this is histerical!
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2....._0830.html
Posters with Bush’s 1968 Yale Photograph can be seen throughout Toronto. The campaign on Lakewood University’s website reads, “graduating from an Ivy League university doesn’t necessarily mean you’re smart.”
too funny
OfT: Rove’s Silence Amid the Din
by emptywheel
Wow! is all I can say. I finished watching Keith with tears in my eyes. His commentary last night was both a small glimmer of hope and a reminder of just how fucked up the country has become.
Why is Keith not the anchor of NBC nightly news?
With his hyperbolic diatribe, Rummy cements that he’s approaching the current “threat” from a loose nation-less terrorist-aspiring groups, which is best handled through modern police actions, with outdated Cold War era mentalities and tactics.
No wonder we’re noticing “Red-scare” type rhetoric from this administration, relics like Cheney and Rumsfeld are actually just spewing out the only stuff they know. “Y’know, you young whippersnappers, when I was your age, we had real enemies…”
Lotus,
Nice to see you!
You too, Pfifferling! Thank you for your nice comment a few days ago, my friend.
Podcast available?
I don’t have time to start a “thank you KO” blog, but I did post a sign up sheet for those who want to have his baby, here.
welcome back, lotus
Thanks, punaise. Not sure I’m all the way back, though — everything I’ve said has ended up in extended moderation this morning.
mark @ 62
rail @ 161
Great points. In additional to the Owellian tactics BushCo is now using - it makes clear that Rummy is using a very old paradigm. It’s like comparing the Viet Cong to the Soviet Army.
Talk about “old Europe” - Rummy and his cronies are clueless
First thank you goes to Mr. Olberman. Haven’t seen anything quite like that since Huntley & Brinkley.
Second thanks goes to trex. Appreciate seeing it as we do not get cable TV (yeah there’s still a few hold outs).
Thank you both.
Olberman may be too humble to admit it, but *he is* the Murrow of our time. This is the best damn editorial I have ever read.