
[Rep. Brad Miller is kind enough to join us for discussion in the comments section below. As always with Blue America chats, please keep the discussion on topic and respectful. And please stop in and give Rep. Miller a good FDL welcome. -- CHS]
When I mentioned to my friends that I was interviewing a Democratic congressman from North Carolina I got a collective look of skepticism. A Dixiecrat? Of course not. But someone who doesn’t understand North Carolina politics might think so.
The state gave Bush 56% of its vote in 2000– and 56% of its vote in 2004 despite the fact that the state’s senior senator, John Edwards, was running for vice president and despite having seen Bush in action for 4 years! And the state’s two current senators, the famously, even embarrassingly, incompetent Liddy Dole and the Stepford rubber stamp kook Richard Burr, are both far right extremists. And speaking of extremists, North Carolina has the distinction of being able to claim both the congressman and the congresswomen with the most reactionary voting records in the entire House of Representatives: Patrick McHenry and Virginia Foxx. And the 5 other Republican House members from North Carolina can all be described as being on the far right fringes of the Republican Party.
On top of that, even the Democrats aren’t exactly shining examples of progressivism… except for two: Mel Watt and, the reason why we’re here today, Brad Miller.
When it came to the vital issues effecting middle class Americans, DMI examined the voting records of the North Carolina delegation and rated each incumbent. All 7 Republicans’ voting records merited F’s. The 6 Democrats rated B’s and C’s, and an F… except Watt and Miller, both of whose records got A’s.
Brad is the first incumbent we’ve invited to come over and blog with us here at Blue America. You may wonder why? The fact that he was also the only incumbent congressman to take part in Yearly Kos might give you a clue. But even more to the point, read his diaries at Kos (here too) and you will immediately recognize a kindred spirit.
I found him extremely down to earth, brilliant in a policy-wonk kind of way. But Brad is also a man grounded in a solid set of progressive values.
And then there’s his opponent, Vernon Robinson.
What can one say about a man who brags that he’s "the Black Jesse Helms?" Remember I mentioned above that North Carolina has the most reactionary congresswoman in America, Virginia Foxx? Her voting record makes the most far right extremist loons like Mean Jean Schimdt, Tom DeLay, Adam Putnam, Ernest Istook, Lynn Westmoreland, Steve King, and J.D. Hayworth look almost mainstream! Well, in 2004 Robinson ran against her and attacked her as a liberal and ran TV ads with her face morphing into Hillary Clinton! In short, Vernon Robinson is probably the single most extreme right wing, bigoted candidate running for Congress anywhere. He’s actually far worse than his hero — and supporter — Tom Tancredo.
I don’t think I’ve ever asked you to look at a Republican candidate’s website before. If enough people examine Robinson’s, he won’t have a chance to win. Take a look and watch his psycho videos: I hate Mexicans and gays clip and his crazy and offensive Beverly Hill Miller ad.
So why would anyone even think twice about an opponent like this, someone who is so obviously deranged and outside even the Republican mainstream? One word: money.
"Two years ago he raised $3 million," Brad told me. "That amount of money is kind of scary… He taps into the most extreme sliver of the far right. It’s like Ann Coulter. Most people, regardless of political party, find what they say repugnant but the sheer outrageousness appeals to that sliver. Over 80% of the money he raises comes from outside North Carolina; almost none comes from the district."
Aside from being a crank candidate and an extremist gadfly, Robinson doesn’t have any real career. He runs a fake advocacy "group" that favors vouchers over public schools but when the "group" raised an annual total of $107,000, Robinson’s salary was $104,000. Jack Kemp, a Republican corporate whore who will endorse anyone who favors vouchers, endorsed Robinson and then, on seeing his bizarre, xenophobic and fanatical positions, publicly withdrew the endorsement.
Obsessed with homosexuality and Hispanics, Robinson hasn’t found a way to claim Brad is Hispanic (yet) but he pulled the same dirty Republican trick on Brad and his wife that Ken Blackwell tried pulling on Ted Strickland and his wife. Both homophobic Republicans had sleazy surrogates claim their opponents didn’t have children because they are gay and have marriages of convenience. The blowback in Ohio seems to have ended Blackwell’s chance to be taken seriously. There hasn’t been polling in the 13th CD, so no one knows what effect Robinson’s idiotic charges have had.
When I asked Brad what issues his constituents are most concerned about, first up were jobs and health care. Not only are people losing jobs, the wages aren’t keeping up with inflation. Brad started a bipartisan caucus in the House to deal with community college issues because he sees them as a way for more Americans to learn needed new skills to compete in a changing marketplace. When it comes to healthcare, he told me affordability was just one part of the issue. "People are amazed at how hateful the whole system is to deal with." (Envision Bill Frist.)
And, of course the other issue he hears about over and over is Bush’s foreign policy blundering, namely the war in Iraq and the instability of the world and of energy supplies.
His committee work has had him dealing extensively with consumer protection, predatory lending and the issues around scientific integrity and the manipulation of science by policy makers. I’m going to leave the specifics of these issues for the live discussion with Brad in the comments section below. You can volunteer for Brad’s campaign here and you can donate here.



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hm, odd dating on this one, it’s been backdated to very early this morning, and thus anyone reloading the page doesn’t see it…
bdu — it was my error — I mistimed this for Howie when I set the post. Ooops.
np, it was just eerily quiet in here…
OK, I don’t feel so bad about sleeping through this, now ;)
I finally found the secret to reading those Rep. Miller diaries at Daily Kos. The link takes you to the Kos main page. Scroll all the way down to the end of page, where it says “Next 12″. That link will take you to the oldest of Rep. Miller’s diary entries. Then, scroll down to the bottom of that page and click on the “Prev 12″ to get to the new entries. What could be simpler?
DK got way too complicated to navigate years ago. Hopefully, someone is working on this.
I’m here. I don’t have much to add on how to link to my diaries at DKos. I know you can search by users and get both my accounts–Brad Miller and Rep. Brad Miller. One is for politics, the other for policy. The distinction has to do with House ethics rules. But I can talk about anything here tonight. Which is not to say that I will.
Cujo (#5), Congressman Miller, who should be joining us in about 5 minutes, alerted me to this earlier. But it seems to be a browser problem. On AOL, for example, you get the Kos homepage. On Safari I get the Brad Miller diarist pages.
Welcome to FDL, Congressman Miller. Glad you could make it. Are you in NC nor or DC?
I jumped the gun. I’m here now. I’ve always been impatient.
Welcome Representative Miller! Thank you for helping Larry Kissell with his race. What else can we do at BlueNC (and here, of course) to help?
I’m sorry Congressman…I meant to ask, what can we do to help you?
Howie Klein @ 8
I’m in my campaign office in Raleigh, where I hear the delightful sound of volunteers on telephones.
B. Muse, welcome and thanks for dropping by. Your work on Kissell’s race is inspirational
Mr. Miller I was wondering how you are feeling about the other races in NC. I think you will OK, what are you thinking about the 11th and 8th?
Hi Brad — welcome to FDL! And Howie, thanks so much for the great post, as always.
brad miller @ 12
Sure… better them than you!
B. Muse / The Southern Dem @ 11
Thanks Southern Dem. I know you’re in Charlotte, so you probably don’t want to drop by our office to make telephone calls, but your blogging here and at mydd and at dailykos on North Carolina politics is a big help. We’re recruiting volunteers from the netroots. We’re raising money as fast as we can, but we also need energy. Howie linked above both to our contribution page and to our volunteer page on our website.
Brad — I loved this shot of you speaking with what looks to be a local farmer in your district. How have the local farm and fair tours been treating you this summer? (Aside from the obligatory funnel cakes, I mean…)
Hi Rep. Miller–What a pleasure to see you here at FDL. I’m sitting here in Raleigh, finishing up my workday. I’d like to thank you for all you do, and letting me hang onto some hope of representation in the federal govt. I appreciate the votes you have cast in support of humane animal treatment. And I appreciate your attention to the netroots. I saw you at Quail Ridge with Jerome & Markos and it was exciting to see so many of us in one place, willing to work for change. Keep up the good work. You’ll always get my vote!
Howie Klein @ 16
I’ve made lots of phone calls over the years, and not just for myself. It’s been the rare night before the election, at least, that I’m not working a phone bank for somebody.
Howie Klein @ 13 – Thank you. I’m inspired by Larry Kissell. It makes helping him very, very easy. Rep. Miller is another inspirational North Carolinian and I look forward to helping all that I can.
Thank you for all you have done to help. I am inspired to keep working hard as I see our candidates adopted by people outside our state.
Welcome, Brad. It was a pleasure to have you with us in Vegas, and just as delightful to have you with us in our community today.
danmanley2299 @ 14
You probably have better scoop than I do on the eleventh. I understand that Heath Shuler is ahead in the internal polls, is raising lots of money, and has local Democrats excited that they may actually beat Charles Taylor this year after painfully many close calls.
Larry Kissell in the eighth has done a great job of rallying the netroots and the grassroots. He needs money. My colleague Artur Davis from Alabama campaigned for Larry last week and said he was going to urge the DCCC to come in behind Larry. Larry’s had a tough time raising money because he’s a teacher from Biscoe, a very small town that has suffered textile job losses. So Larry’s Roladex is filled with teachers and folks from Biscoe. He needs some financial help, but the polling shows that he’s definitely within striking distance of Robin Hayes.
Brad….ahhh the beauty of digital phone…no long distance charges. I’ll contact your office tomorrow to see if they have a list they can share.
Congressman Miller,
My NC friends say you’re doing a GREAT job. Keep it up, sir.
Is it sort of fun to run against a total whackjob like Mr. Robinson?
Sue Thompson: if you’re here in Raleigh we’d love to have your help. We’re running phone banks this week and next to supporters and active Democrats, so the calls are to a friendly audience. We also need help putting up yardsigns, and we’ll be doing literature drops from door to door starting pretty soon.
Ed*ard at 25 — well, that’s what I call a loaded softball. LOL
Congressman Miller, approximately what percentage of voters in your district define Robinson as a kook? And do people in your district remember him from 2004 when he made such a jackass out of himself running against Foxx in the Republican primary?
Welcome, Congressman Miller! Another constituent here from Raleigh. We got the vile mailing from Robinson–and my sister in Raleigh received one of the canned phone calls–guess it was the Beverly Hills Miller. She said it was disgusting.
Got your letter today and will be sending a little something in the mail. We are on social security so can’t do much but if you need volunteers, I’ll be delighted to enlist. Are you still in the office in Cameron Village?
Howie Klein @ 28…you mean when Robinson called Foxx a liberal?
It isn’t fun to read all the lies about Brad Miller, it surely can’t be fun for Brad and his family to read them. Wonder what old Ginny has to say about Robinson now?
Rep Miller, your Committee on Science is a critical setting where the place of “expert testimony” ought to be highly respected, but the Republican aversion to scientific data that does not fit their worldview must make your work difficult, if not frustrating.
How does the discussion over global warming, for instance, go down in your district? On the one hand, there are farming folks who understand at a gut level that you have to respect the land and the environment. On the other, there is a substantial conservative Christian culture that seems to dismiss much that is labelled “scientific” (creationism vs. evolution, for example).
As a mainline pastor, I work hard to help folks connect the religious and scientific, and have written of that here at FDL. I’m wondering how you do when talking to your more religiously conservative constituents about science and the environment? How do you help them to take off some of the blinders?
Ed*ard Teller @ 25
Your North Carolina friends are very wise. As to running against Robinson, it’s hard to describe this as fun. My wife was interviewed on three television stations about Robinson’s insinuations about my sexual orientation and why we had not had children. That was about as much fun as a prostate exam. But Democrats are motivated and I love being part of an energetic campaign.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 27
couldn’t help myself after listening to and watching Robinson’s ads and cruising his website. Robinson must be from a new clown division of central casting
But Rep. Miller’s comment above illustrates how hurtful such people as Robinson can be.
Ed*ard Teller @ 33
I’ve exposed myself to some loathsome Repugs while investigating these races and I have to say I haven’t found anyone worse than Robinson. We’re talking about a level of sleaze that rises to compete with Ann Coulter and Karl Rove and Limbaugh.
B. Muse / The Southern Dem @ 30
just to show that they will do anything, Foxx took Robinson around the Hill.
Rep. Virginia Foxx (NC-5), one of the nation’s most reliable conservatives, introduced Vernon to the House Republican Congressional Caucus in Washington last week, with a ringing endorsement. Vernon was roundly cheered when he read a short clip from the liberal Winston-Salem Journal newspaper responding to his strong stance on illegal immigration this way: “Jesse Helms is back – this time he’s black!” Robinson received contributions and/or pledges of support from Representative Foxx, Howard Coble (R-NC), Pete Sessions (R-TX), Tom Tancredo (R-CO), Darryl Issa (R-CA), J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ), and National Republican Congressional Committee Chairman Tom Reynolds (R-NY). Needless to say that is unusually solid support for any challenger to get from the House GOP Caucus
Hello Congressman, welcome to FDL.
What is the most effective message Democrats can put out, both in NC and nationally, to carry 2006 and 2008? The smartest tactics? What is your biggest concern regarding Republican strategy?
Thank you.
Am following your campaign from here in NYC and hope to send a contribution soon. You represent several family members who speak highly of you. I saw VR’s ads when he ran before,,,truly frightening stuff. I’m a “Carolina girl” by birth and hoped the state would move on given the battering this Congress has visited on the middle class and the military.
Best wishes and thanks to you.
Jane at 38 — great to hear that the locals are giving Brad two thumbs up. :) Thanks for the update from folks that you know.
Okay, I’m starting to have trouble keeping up, which is probably a good thing.
Margarete: yes, we’re still in Cameron Village across the parking lot from the old cafeteria. We’re a little cramped, but we can squeeze you in if you can volunteer.
Peterr: I think everyone understands that government should not try to bully scientists to reach conclusions that do not cause political discomfort. I hope that if Democrats are in the majority next year I will get to play a pretty significant role in the Science Committee in looking at that. As to discussion my religious faith, I don’t speak often of the debate over evolution, but I speak of it frequently as requiring of me a humility about what I am capable of knowing (”Now we see through a glass darkly…”), a humility that I do not see in those who claim to speak for Christianity on all manner of political issues, and in requiring of me a generosity (”and the second is like unto it, thou shalt love thy neighbor as thy self…”; “As you have done unto the least of these my brethren, you have done unto me.”) I try to speak of faith in a way that does not exclude those of different faiths, or skeptics or those who do not believe, but acknowledges the source of my values. Wow, I can’t believe I just wrote all that in a comment.
I do not believe this is off topic -
Can we contribute to the many fine candidates we are meeting on line all at once through Act Blue – with Act Blue divying it up amongst the campers – rather than making individual donations to the particular candidates? We’ve had two candidates today, others before, and I am sure more to come.
Remember, I’m lazy.
Congressman Miller:
Community colleges. I am a product of the California community college system. Neither I or my family of blue collar types could have afforded me going directly out of high school into the university system. The first two years of college didn’t cost me a cent. All I had to pay for were my books and incidentals. Back then California was just behind New York on money spent for higher education. Republican Reagan changed all that. Education is the key to freedom. Many freedoms. Your work on behalf of our kids in the educational sphere is an example for all statesmen and stateswomen. Would that they would follow it.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 39
Yeah, especially since they’re the ones who get to vote.
EPU at 41 — I think you have to do it individually, because we aren’t operating as a PAC in that capacity. But Howie has much more ActBlue knowledge than I have, so he’d probably best tell you for certain.
Evil Parallel Universe @ 41
Yes, EPU, you’re supposed to be able to do just that.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 42
Yep, about 11 or 22 million Americans a year take courses at community colleges, whether it’s getting a GED, the first two years of college, or small engine repair. It’s close to home and affordable. And it gives folks the skills they need for better jobs. It shouldn’t be hard to make the case for community colleges in Washington, but it is.
EPU – maybe I’m wrong. I thought we could here as well as at Netroots. I’ll check before answering next time.
Evil Parallel Universe @
41
thru ActBlue, you can donate to Miller, Edwards and Hillary Clinton (if you are so minded) and pay with one chargecard billing. ActBlue divvies it up properly for the candidates. You can even donate to State level candidates in selected states…
brad miller @ 40
Humility, generosity, and a vision of caring for each other and especially for the poor and outcast . . . those are character traits and visions that are sorely needed in the halls of the capitol building. Well put, Congressman!
B. Muse / The Southern Dem @ 47
I’m correct. EPU, scroll down to the very bottom of the Blue America page and you will see a small box on the left. Any contribution placed there will be evenly distributed.
Evil Parallel Universe @ 41
The Blue America ActBlue page allows for that and makes it really easy. To contribute to Congressman Miller’s campaign, though, you need to go to the link in the story above (this one).
In addition to Miller, I just kicked in a pittance to Harry Reids Leadership PAC and to the DNC, all on one teeny chargecard at ActBlue…
B.Muse and *ilson — see, you learn something every day! I’ve never done the multiples at once type of donation — those ActBlue guys are so clever!
It’s getting too easy to donate to progressive candidates …
Am I too late? Just got home from work.
You got it! I’ll contact your offices.
I also had the misfortune of receiving Robinson’s campaign literature and the man is clearly disturbed. He is a xenophobe and homophobe. His robocalls are outrageous and full of immigrant-hate and scurrilous accusations against you. However, you have such strong support in the district, I doubt if they will have any real effect, except to stir up the ignorant fringe. We have to keep our eye on them and keep you in office!
*ilson….it can never be too easy to donate to progressive candidates…
Humility, generosity, and a vision of caring for each other and especially for the poor and outcast . . . those are character traits and visions that are sorely needed in the halls of the capitol building. Well put, Congressman!
Uh, I didn’t claim I actually did all that.
I’m a Raleigh Dem increasingly concerned about Repubs stealing elections: FL in 2000; RFK,Jr. has documented OH in 2004; the Busby/Bilbray special election fiasco in CA in June this year, THAT THE ‘LIBERAL’ MEDIA COMPLETELY IGNORED. Are we making any progress toward insuring paper trails? What else can we do to make elections more honest and secure? Is there some way we can spotlight some of the outrageous things that are going on and generate some public outrage over this kind of crap? Get out the vote efforts don’t do much good when the other side is taking the voting machines home with them. And why isn’t Hastert in hot water for swearing Bilbray in 6 days after a contested result?
*ilson – That’s why I asked about the all in one donation thing – too many good candidates = too many choices. Although is Hillary really an Act Blue candidate?
We can save this the Hillary question for another thread – I’m just surprised.
*ilson46201 @ 3:13pm (#48)
You may also, if you prefer, just give a lump sum to the list, by entering an amount in the first input box on the page. It will, according to the note, be divided equally among all the candidates on the list. By way of disclosure, though, I’ve never tried that button to see if it works.
brad miller @ 59
Uh, I didn’t claim I actually did all that.
Maybe not from your perspective but those traits/that vision reflect what I’m told about your stewardship of your position. :)
LindyH @ 55
No, we’re just getting started. Take your shoes off and sit down at the screen.
brad miller @ 59
Uh, I didn’t claim I actually did all that.
All we ask is that you at least try !
brad miller @ 58
No, but you acknowledge the ideal and it sounds like you strive to reach it.
You have my support in your campaign. If you serve your constituency with honor, you serve the whole country.
This is such a big part of the problem. This is also a huge problem for small employers – it isn’t so much hiring someone and even paying the tax, it’s all the paperwork.
When I lived in Richmond I spent a few months doing middle of the night drives back and forth to the vet school in NC for cancer treatments for my dog (a NC accent is a wonderful wonderful thing). It’s frightening that it is so much easier to get healthcare for a pet lined up than for a poor US citizen. Healthcare is also something that drives many of the negative aspects of the immigration discussion where I am. There is a tremendous ANGER at the perception that illegal immigrants are flooding the healthcare system paying nothing, while working poor can’t afford healthcare. Healthcare solutions would defuse a lot of the futility and frustration based rage
Good luck to you (and to Larry Kissell) and big props if you are willing to dig in on the healthcare issue.
Clai Smisson: I have co-sponsored legislation to provide a verifiable paper trail for voting. Democracy depends on almost everyone believing that votes are honestly counted.
brad miller @ 66
Oh, now THAT’S crucial! Thank you for that, and keep on trying to get that legislation through.
brad miller @ 32
EPU – from the Blue America page
Blue America
you have a couple of options for an “all in one” donation.
First, you can just put in one dollar amount in a box that says it splits the amount equally among all the candidates listed.
Second, you can scroll through the list of candidates (with the pics) and put an amount in any box by a candidate that appeals to you – those get totalled and processed in one payment.
Sorry – wrong link!!!!!!
http://www.actblue.com/page/allies#672
dab from CT: yeah, I hope they aren’t falling for it this time. The particular insinuations are just so extreme that it’s not credible, either with respect to Ted Strickland or to me.
But you’re right, candidates will use these tactics until voters punish them for it.
brad miller @ 71
The thing that worries me most is the control of the media by big money. I would like to see the 1996 Telecommunications Act repealed and this crap broken up. Have you considered anything like that?
Mary @ 3:21 pm (#65)
Not to mention the cost of dealing with complaints about health insurance. A number of years ago, the company I worked for had a problem with an HMO it was using at the time. They got numerous complaints about this, and of course, someone from personnel had to handle them and look into them. It was especially vexing, because we were a branch office, and the main office was in another state where they didn’t use that HMO. This was what you’d term a medium-sized business, I suppose, but the same job is now being done by a small business, with similarly dispersed offices. Imagine if they had to deal with this kind of complaint.
Mary @ 67
Congressman, I just spent a year in Santa Fe on sabbatical from my university working with our Human Services Department on Medicaid issues.
I came away from that experience knowing that no matter how badly messed up someone thinks our health care is, it’s worse than they think.
Putting patches on the system isn’t working — look at the Annual Social and Economic Supplement to the Current Population Survey that was released yesterday. We’re losing ground nationally.
I’m going to assume for a moment that the Democratic Party will win in November. Is there the willpower to take a very critical look at health care financing in this country and do something constructive about it?
BC
Bargain Countertenor: You’re right, at root is the way we pay for health care. I can’t guarantee that if we win a bare majority in November that we’ll have a plan for a wholesale reform, especuakk subce President Bush would veto it anyway, but I guarantee you that every Democrat mounting a serious campaign for president in 2008 better have a plan.
Imagine if they had to deal with this kind of complaint.
They give up. Lots of smaller employers aren’t Scrooge, but there is simply not the time and the personnel and the skill sets and the time and …
It makes it easier to do nothing.
Hey, did you notice there were a couple of links that would let you contribute to my campaign?
brad miller @ 78
Yep, and I used them too, though it’s the end of the month and money’s scarce. I hope it’s a case of “every little bit helps.”
brad miller @ 76
Can you at least fix the chimera posing as a Medicare Drug plan?
And I’m so glad to hear that someone in DC understands that it’s a financing problem in the main, rather than facilities/providers problem!
BC
like this?
Contribute here
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/entity/672?refcode=directory
“Money is the mother’s milk of politics” Gov. Pat Brown, Calif.
https://secure.actblue.com/contribute/entity/672?refcode=directory
I like the turn this discussion has taken.
Rep. Miller,
Your post-Katrina speech on the House floor calling for accountability was wonderful, as was the six month update (all posted in your DKos diary).
Accountability . . . what an idea!
Any chance of a one-year update, once Congress returns to DC? I’d love to hear some of those questions you’ve been sitting on for a year . . . even if there’s no one around to answer them.
Beyond simply putting the questions out on the House floor, they could make a great commercial. Alternate the asking of the questions with a shot of the White House at dusk with crickets chirping to emphasize the lack of answers:
question, crickets,
question, crickets,
question, crickets . . .
Speaking of money, do you see that the way campaign money is spent is changing with the advent of the Internet (may it ever be Neutral!)? I see that most campaign dollars end up going for TV ads, which I never see (I think we have a TV … somewhere…)
What sort of voter do TV ads affect? And what do they actually do? I guess I am wondering if they are worth the big bucks.
Peterr: I was on a conference call with the Democratic caucus today about the status of Katrina relief. A pretty large delegation of the caucus is in New Orleans and the Gulf Coast for a couple of days to see where things stand. If there is a Democratic majority I think we’ll take on the six year backlog of issues on which Congress should exercise oversight of the Bush Administration. The response to Katrina will be one of those issues.
Mary @ 3:41pm (#76)
Easier, but that can be expensive, too. Any employee who can’t afford to self-insure will probably look elsewhere for employment once it happens to someone there. At the time, the company in question dealt with the problem before folks who had health concerns started leaving.
Whether they choose to fix the problem or ignore it, in the end it will hurt them, and it’s a bigger burden on small businesses than large.
*ilson46201 @ 84
Gov. Edmund G. “Pat” Brown. One of the best Democrat gov’s ever. He built a California educational and infrastructure system that can only be dreamed of today. He was what good government was all about. I know. I was there.
HotFlash: I’ve always heard that 80 percent of the work done and money spent in politics is wasted, the problem is that no one knows which 80 percent.
I think we do reach people through television we otherwise would have trouble reaching, so we’re scrambling to raise money to do it, especially since Robinson will obviously be on (and did I mention that I would welcome contributions?).
But we’re also running an aggressive organizational effort. We very much value volunteer efforts. In fact, we’ve just sent out for pizza for our volunteers tonight, but I think they’ll save the candidate a slice or two.
brad miller @ 67
Thank you for co-sponsoring the legislation. I still don’t understand why this isn’t more of a burning issue for the Dem party. The requirement of 1) allowing those who have the right to vote to vote and 2) counting all the votes cast, are the cornerstones of our democracy.
Congressman Conyers and his committee did such a great job of documenting the many voting irregularities of the 2004 election and I just don’t understand why there isn’t more outrage about the types of tactics the Republican party has used to get power and then stay in power.
Perhaps the country is just in denial that it couldn’t happen here.
In any event, thanks for your leadership in this area.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 89
But I’m here in CA now and things sure ain’t what they used to be . . . sigh
Rep. Miller,
Sorry to be so late asking this question, but I’ve asked this question of many of the candidates, and hope that even if you can’t answer it now that you consider it once you’re back in Congress:
Over the last couple of decades, the federal government has been gradually eliminating civil service positions, particularly in the Defense Dept., and replacing them with contract employees. This is supposed to promote efficiency. One of the consequences, however, has been that government employees seldom do the technical or skilled work of running a government, instead being consigned to administrative roles. Assuming you have formed an opinion on this issue, do you think this is more efficient, and should the trend continue?
There is, of course, a highly-publicized subset of contractors hired to provide security in war zones like Iraq and Afghanistan. This development has been particularly troubling, but I’m not just asking about them.
Peterr @ 93
You can sing that in church, Peter. Like OkKiddo I attended HS, a community college for two years after that, a state college for another two years, then started graduate school at UC. I left the state for my doctorate, but that was because the person I wanted to study with wasn’t in California.
Now they’ve dismantled the best cradle-to-grave education system the world has known. It’s a pity.
BC
Oooh brad miller @ 91
Oooh, pizza! That’s definitely in the effective 20%
Hi, Congressman:
I’m one of your constituents (Raleigh precinct 1-13, which always votes about 70-30 Democratic).
I’d like to know what you think about the fact that this is one of those Blue Moon elections where the US House is at the top of the ticket, and what you think the effect of national politics will be on state races. It’s pretty clearly a good year to be running as a Dem, but what effect will low turnout have?
Cujo359: Actually, the investigation into the most recent shuttle disaster (I can never remember which was Columbia and which was the Challenger) found that one of the problems was how many key positions had been contracted out, so there were not enough experts actually at NASA. I asked Sean O’Keefe, the then NASA head, at a Science Committee hearing about whether he embraced that particular finding. I never got a straight answer.
I’ve also sponsored legislation (maybe by Chris Van Holland?) to limit the reflexive preference for contracting out government functions.
My experience in the North Carolina legislature was that the only areas where we saved money was in jobs like university housekeepers, because the government employees got health care benefits and the contractors’ employees didn’t. I wasn’t happy about saving money that way.
golux: Can we put a yard sign in your yard? Call us at 834-2343.
As to the turnout, we need to get out folks out. I was on the ballot in 1994, and still have scars on my soul from that ordeal. We need to make sure our folks vote. That will be a big part of our organizational effort. But a lot of it has to be the voters own determination to change course.
Rep Miller: I’m a long way from your district but the health care issue is really hard. In Australia they have something like a single payer system (with private insurance and care also available) and the public system is in meltdown. The reason is that demand is essentially infinite – we all want all the best care for everything – but the resource is very much limited. Does anyone have an idea how to solve that fundamental problem? If you do I’ll start the Miller for Pres. committee this afternoon.
never mind–wrong thread. ;)
Hi Brad,
Donald Rumsfeld suggested that those who oppose
the war may be intellectually confused, which
made me think that at least we have the wherewithall to be intellectually confused.
The administration seems to be trying one more time to sell this war.Where are you on this issue~Thanks
BTW I’m only a semi-ex pat and still maintain voting residence in the States so am very concerned about policy here
brad miller @ 97
Good example. Another NASA example was the Challenger – the first one. Why weren’t there civil service employees helping to perform the quality control function? The people who spoke up about the O-rings were Morton-Thiokol (sp?) employees, and they were largely ignored by their own managers and NASA. Some of them, at least, quickly left their jobs, with, I am sure, the encouragement of M-T.
Civil servants, in contrast to contract people, have fairly secure jobs. They can be honest about the merits of a technical decision, provided they’re involved enough in the process. Contract people can be dismissed much more easily. Both the government managers and the public need to have people who don’t have to be afraid to speak their minds, and yet have minds worth speaking.
My own experience with the DoD is that there were almost no technical positions available within the civil service. All were management or administrative jobs. The agency we worked for had no CS personnel to help them evaluate the technical work that we, as contractors, were doing.
Great idea.
That’s the other reason this trend is troubling. It basically makes the workers pay for increased efficiency with lower wages or benefits.
Howie, I can’t find Brad on the Blue America totals page.
Fran: I’ve sponsored a resolution with David Price from the adjoining district to require the President to describe in detail what our remaining mission in Iraq is and how long it will take to achieve it. In other words, the resolution calls for an exit strategy and a timeline.
I discussed the resolution here:http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/10/25/18323/463
As to whether I am confused, here’s what I said shortly before our invasion:
“A functional, democratic, tolerant, prosperous Iraq could provide an example to other Islamic majority societies that are struggling and failing. I greatly fear that Iraq will instead dissolve into warfare between ethnic groups, much as Yugoslavia unraveled after the fall of the Tito regime. Military action against Iraq may well exacerbate the resentment and the hatred that many in the region now feel towards the United States, giving more support to terrorist groups like al Qaeda.”
Sorry, was I confused about that?
LindyH @ 105
Me neither.
LindyH (#105) we’re recommending donating to Brad’s campaign through ActBlue here.
brad miller at 32,
I’m in Ohio, and the GOP is making the same insinuations about Strickland.
Getting pretty old.
All the best to you!
Petedownunder @ 100
Pete,
The solution to that particular problem is identification — making cost-effective decisions. For example, performing an appendectomy to cure an appendicitis is a no-brainer in most cases. Deciding to do a stem-cell transplant on a patient with recurrent multiple myeloma is much more questionable, because there’s better than a 50% that the leukemia will recur.
Our system spends a tremendous amount of money on people in the last weeks/months of their lives. I’m not going to go so far as to say it’s wasteful, but the expenditures are at least questionable.
BC
LindyH @ 104
Howie explained in an earlier comment that you have to go to Rep. Miller’s campaign site to donate.
brad miller @ 106
Not enough questions coming in – so I will ask some things that might get an interesting answer:
What is your favorite question to get while out at campaign events?
What questions are not asked often enough?
oh – and, what are your answers?
Your not confused at all Brad.The very best to you in the comming election~Fran
Rep Miller, and Howie too, if you are here,
Obviously FDL is about getting Dems into seats. The wisdom is to concentrate for now on races where Dems stand a chance. OK, got that. FDL and Blue America have helped identify the *good* Dem candidates wherever they are (thank you Mr Klein, Ms Hamsher, Ms Smith)*and* make it easy to contribute to their campaigns. This is resulting in folks contributing to candidates for other districts than their own. I think this is unprecedented. One of the FDL posters referred to the candidates she had contributed to as her ‘portfolio’ — I really liked that analogy.
However, this means that we have to keep track of more than just our local races. It would be nice to have a bit more info. I really like seeing the updated contribution totals for each candidate, along with their thumb bios and links to their websites and blogs. However, once we’ve contributed, I think it would be interesting and useful to see the current polls, so we know who needs more help! I do check around but it’s really time-consuming and also I don’t always know which polls are reliable and not all are up to date. Any help there? What polls do the pros use?
By the way Brad ,How does Edwards/Feingold
in 2008 sound to you?
Brad– Have you ever read three shakespeares?
If you could have voted for one Democratic candidate who ran in the past 50 years, who would it be? And why?
and at least two Camuses?
Brad–do you ever read Egyptian novelists?
Some of us are just getting in from work.
Any thoughts on the Middle East– both in regard to Lebanon and Palestine?
Wish I was in NC, but you have my support– small bits matter, right?
HotFlash (#115), I agree with you completely and Christy and I are trying to get in updates whenever we can. Did you notice that great one she did earlier today on Donna Edwards? After someone has been here for a live session we start to think of them as “our candidates” and assume some kind of relationship with their race.
Sorry for all the literary questions Brad- but I would like to see how you measure up to the Washington intelligencia.
or Crawford pseudo-intelligentsia…
Astralplame: Let’s see, one favorite is “how much can I legally contribute to your campaign?”
The answer is $2100. And I don’t get asked that nearly enough.
Actually, I’m used to going to political events where I’ve known most of the people there, and they know what I think about the issues they’re most interested in, so I just talk with folks the way you would when you run into friends. That’s changing some since I moved up the political pecking order to Congress from the legislature, and since a lot of new people have come into politics in the last couple of years that I don’t know as well. I really like getting to know people who are getting involved in politics, rather than talking about specific issues or campaign questions. I meet with people in my office all the time to talk with them about particular issues they are concerned about, but less so when I see them at campaign events.
Rep Miller,
You provide a welcome antidote to the erroneous idea that people with progressive ideas are found only in the Northeast and West Coast.
Here at FDL, we wrestle with nationalizing the debate and also respecting the local differences. Nationalizing the debate is something we’re good at, given the geographic spread of the posters and commenters – but what’s the local flavor of the debate in NC from your perspective? That is, leaving aside responses to specific attacks by your opponent, what are the issues that you are pushing in your campaign speeches, conversations at public events, and political advertising that are highest on the list of NC voters?
*ilson46201 @ 118
If you haven’t, you can still get credit if you used to read Mad . In their way, both were absurdist.
Camus wasn’t absurdist– that was Ionesco–who is now writing gooper political speeches.
Would the plural of Camus be Cami–As in–”I jest read three Cami this mornin before ma bike ride?”
brad miller @ 127
I’m really glad you took the time to let us get to know YOU.
au contraire — Camus in Wikipedia.
KennyBoi Mehlman is Master of Ceremonies in the Theater of the Absurd.
This is not absurd: You can donate up to $2100 to Miller. So can your spouse/partner. So can any children with an ‘independent’ source of income.
rwcole @ 4:57 pm (#128) – Camus wasn’t absurdist
Wikipedia seems to disagree, and from the definition of Absurdism, I’d say they have a point. What’s surprising is that you didn’t argue about Mad being absurdist, but I suppose you realized I was making a funny …
As to my reading habits, it tends to be light fiction. Murder mysteries and the like. I was pleased to see at politicalwire.com that they’ve added The Glass Key by Dashiell Hammett to the list of the best political novels. A wonderful book, and one that fits my political inclinations: in the end, the good guy was the ward-healing machine pol, scorned byall the rightsort of people, andthe bad guy was thewidely-respected patrician “statesman.” I hope you read it, and I’m sorry I gave away the ending.
OT– Dean coming up to refute Rummy’s speech on KO.
So Camus was an absurdist huh? Is dubya?
brad miller @ 135
I happen to like when a politician gives away the true ending before embarking on anything…
good read too!
dubya is just absurd.
Bargain Countertenor at 110: I assume from screen name a fellow student of PDQ Bach. As to health care, even if you eliminate the hip replacements on the 90 year olds with congestive heart failure there is still way more demand than any system can support and who draws the line? At the moment it’s some accountant at the HMO, who I’m not sure is the one I’d pick. I’m interested if Rep Miller has any idea even of what model would both work and might possibly get through Congress.
Mr. Miller,
I haven’t read every single post here, but haven’t noticed a question about Iraq. Where do you stand on our presence there?
rwcole: As to my literary habits, it’s mostly light fiction. Murder mysteries and the like. I was pleased to see at politicalwire.com that they just added The Glass Key by Dashiell Hammett to their list of the best political novels. A wonderful book, and one that fits my political leanings: in the end, the good guy was the ward-healing machine pol who was widely scorned by all the right sort of people, and the bad guy was the widely-respected patrician “statesman.”
Back after packing gear for my band to play this evening at the Alaska Stae Fair.
Congressman Miller, you are a co-sponsor of H. R. 515, which I’m very much in favor of. Thanks. I’m a disabled Vietnam-era veteran. Many of my friends from that war were exposed to Agent Orange. I’m concerned that the new war’s vets are being exposed to depleted uranium in harmful doses. Should we be testing all returning gulf and Afghan vets for DU exposure?
Camus was an absurdist, or at least considered part of the absurdist school.
But remember, I’m only a…..
But, since words have no meaning, I guess I can look at it as a compliment, so I’ve got that goin’ for me.
rwcole @ 5:04pm (#135)
It takes more than being absurd to be an absurdist. What I find funny about Bush reading Camus, besides the obvious fact that he had to read to do it, is that absurdism seems to be almost the opposite of his philosophy, at least as publicly stated. How can life be meaningless when you have a god to worship?
The last book W really read was My Pet Goat, and I’m not sure he finished that.
Now you’re all being…
:-0
Petedownunder @
146
he got a little distracted toward the beginning but stayed thru to the end til he went flying ’round.
not sure if he can tell us what it was about, though.
Brad–Thanks- I was mostly just pulling your leg about the president- but your answer is actually helpful.
petits twits psuedo-intellectuels faux
Bit NOLA: Comment 106 is on Iraq.
Okay, my computer is starting to have the hiccups (hence my double comment on the Glass Key). Also, my dog and wife are wondering where I am.
I’ll read all of the comments tomorrow (or later tonight), but I’m headed home now.
Howie, this has been fun. Thanks for inviting me. I’d love to do it again, maybe about issues before the Democratic House after November.
I want out of Iraq. I want those in control to get us out of Iraq. I want those running for president in ‘08 to call for getting out of Iraq. And I want it now. Hillary.
*ilson46201 @ 150
si nous sommes des petits twits psuedo-intellectuels FAUX, sommes-nous des intellectuels vrais?
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Being one of the above, I have no idea why I find this funny.
Thanks for stopping to chat, Brad. Good luck in your campaign.
astralplame @ 151
Is a double negative OK in French?
astralplame @ 152
if you say so — as a true pseudo-intellectual, I used Babelfish translation to demonstrate my wide linguistic abilities…
Thanks Brad. It was great having you here. I’ll look forward to celebrating your re-election in a few weeks.
yes, sorry for the silly distraction from weighty affairs of state and the nation … I did donate, just not my maximum permissible amount of $2100 …
Cujo359 @ 156
There are zero negatives there.
I can’t remember who asked but Brad was one of the Democrats in Congress to vote NO on giving Bush the authority to attack Iraq
Oklahoma kiddo @ 90
Hey OK kiddo, you still around?
Yes, my contribution was a bit smaller, as well. Maybe you can buy a few extra pizzas for the staff if you shop carefully.
*ilson46201 @ 150
*ilson, I think I found your soulmate :)
Cliquez-moi!
Maybe it is time for a Ted Stevens thread. From TPM Muckraker:
Sen. Ted Stevens (R-AK) held up a bill that would create a free, searchable database of government contracts and grants because he was worried about the proposal’s price tag, his spokesman told me this afternoon. Its cost has been estimated at $15 million.
Stevens’ office has asked Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK), the sponsor of the bill, for “a cost-benefit analysis to make sure this does not create an extra layer of unnecessary bureaucracy,” spokesman Aaron Saunders said. The Senator “wanted to make sure that this wasn’t going to be a huge cost to the taxpayer and that it achieves the goal which the bill is meant to achieve.”
Saunders added that Stevens’ hold was not “secret,” and that he would back the bill if the analysis shows that “it achieves its goal and it achieves its goal well.”
But Sen. Coburn’s spokesman John Hart questioned Stevens’ motive. “The only reason to oppose this bill is if he has something to hide,” Hart said.
Thanks Brad Miller,
Should the dems take back power in Congress and you join them, I hope that in addition to representing your constituents, you’ll take part in reestablishing connections between our self-absorbed “leaders” and the people.
And please remember New Orleans. They’ll still be in need of assistance unitl Bush and company are gone.
Some day when you have more time, you might want to read one of America’s forgotten books of simple native genius, Black Elk Speaks.
Good luck.
Maybe Stevens thinks he has a legitimate reason– like to protect the Internets. What if bin-Laden managed to find the pipes????
Howie Klein @ 167
let alone the tubes. Yikes. Hadn’t thought of that!
The Nefarious Leslie @ 162
I’m around…
Howie Klein @ 167
“Red Alert! Red Alert! bin Ladin in the Tubes! Get the Drano!”
Ed teller (#168), I’m getting as senile as Stevens! I meant the tubes!
Oklahoma kiddo @ 169
Do you remember Del?
nah, bin Laden (dead, BTW) would just hook the tubes and pipes up to his hookah and put on another Whitney Houston CD…
Howie Klein @
167
He is a super dooper secret Marvel Hunk– not a chance!
http://img364.imageshack.us/im…..ens6oa.jpg
( I know he’s done some real good, ET!)
Ed*ard Teller @ 5:24 pm (#163)
You have to wonder what kind of costs-benefits analysis he thinks would be possible with such a thing. It’s about giving the public complete access to information about federal contracts. I think Sen. Stevens is as confused about how to do a trade study as he is about the Internet.
By the way, before I go, I want to remind everyone that on Saturday we have two Fighting Dems, both from Colorado: Jay Fawcett and Bill Winter.
Wouldn’t terra-ists be able to exploit such a list? I can’t believe he didn’t use the “national security” angle.
How can a “list” add a layer of bureaucracy to anything?
The Nefarious Leslie @ 172
I recall more than one “Del”. Which do you mean?
Howie Klein @ 171
nah. He’s going straight from the senate to the Alzheimer’s section of the Alaska Pioneer Home. Twelve or thirteen years ago he was really sharp. I’ve seen him several times since, had lunch with him twice, and he is going downhill.
“Gov. Edmund G. “Pat” Brown. One of the best Democrat gov’s ever. He built a California educational and infrastructure system that can only be dreamed of today. He was what good government was all about. I know. I was there.”
I can’t tell from the blockquotes who said this – *ilson? OKKiddo? I wholeheartedly agree, biased tho I am. When you say you were around, do you mean that you were in the admin or just living in CA at the time? My dad worked for him for 6 years. He was my sister’s godfather and I have a button that says Bernice ‘88 (his wife).
I think Phil Angelides will be in his mold.
LOL. Olbermann just said that Frist could count his video diagnosis of Terry Schiavo as part of his required continuing education.
Royce, who worked for Pat.
You do know that the excessive use of blockquotes changes the pagination, right?
Howie – THANKS!
Diane Benson AK at large?
Howie Klein @
124
Absolutely! I have sent money to candidates in places I have never been. I check my address book to see if I know anyone where one of ‘my’ candidates is running. If so I’ll maybe drop them an e-mail or call them. They are often blown away when I talk knowledgabley about their local politics! I think that the recommendation of a friend or relative is much more powerful than a TV ad. The Netroots makes us all neighbours.
Yes, I did see Donna’s thread and left a comment appreciating her stand on Net Neutrality (with a link to Blue America). Keeping the Net as a place where we can speak freely and assemble peaceably is, IMO, a precondition to fixing all the things that are wrong, that and Free and Fair Voting. As long as we have those two things, we can do everything else! Thank you Rep Miller for your work on Net Neutrality.
Unh, and one of the reasons for not very many questions is that Rep Miller’s website answers most of the biggies, and it’s pretty easy to find stuff, too. That’s a good thing when I am talking to someone who doesn’t Internet, I can search around and tell them the candidate’s views on stuff. Imagine, me telling my Auntie Elaine about her congresscritter! (Disclosure: my Auntie Elaine is in that *bad* Rep. iller’s district, Candice in MI-10. V bad scene there.)
Mommybrain @ 180
kiddo said it.
hit F5 to reload and refresh your newly corrected margins
kiddo, my 182 is for you.
*ilson46201 @ 187
Sorry! What’s the safe total again?
Evil Parallel Universe @ 5:31pm (#175)
Never underestimate the power of Congress or the president to do such a thing. I assumed it would be done by the Congressional Budget Office and/or the General Accounting Office, but I suppose it’s possible they could just create a separate agency to do it. How much overlap this would be, I’m not sure. Under the circumstances, it seems a trivial matter, particularly coming from a guy who’s willing to spend $500 million so a couple of his constituents can get to work faster.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 186
My mother worked for “Pat” Brown’s son. I was living in California starting with Goodwin Knight’s Governorship through Jerry Brown’s.
that non-wrappable HTML link in the middle exacerbated the problem. Usually six or seven nests is maximum …
Cujo – Which basically means its bullshit and he doesn’t want the list out b/c he doesn’t want people to be able to easily track donations = contract awards, or something like that.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 191
Okay – I misread your comment to mean you were involved w/Pat’s administration somehow. Thought we were gonna have a small world moment. :)
Evil Parallel Universe @ 5:43pm (#193)
That was my conclusion, as well. In fact, the instant I heard about this hold, Stevens was my prime suspect.
hilo nuevo …
kiddo, did you work for him too? Back then, Dems didn’t have milquetoast reputations. Brown was known as a savvy pol and a real fighter for the Democratic values he believed in.
The Nefarious Leslie @ 188
My mother did (she’s gone now, last Feb.) Mom worked for eight years for Gov. Jerry Brown. And two senators before that. See #191.
NefLes, did you have someone in Pat’s admin?
OKKiddo, our neighbors across the street also worked for Jerry. I think she was his housekeeper! Her name was Anne.
Not a family member, but a member of a family that I know well was a key part of Pat’s administrations.
Mommybrain @ 200
I never worked for any politicians. Mom did all that stuff. I did have supper at Ronald Reagan’s house one night. The house he and Nancy leased from Dane Domich in Sacramento, while he was governor. But of course that does not count. I’m a life long Democrat. I liked Reagan. I just could not stand his politics or his policies.
Oh…and by the way, Gov. Edmund G. Brown was the best governor I have ever met, or lived under. Bar none.
One more thing. My mother knew Bernice quite well.
Brad is true Blue and is an invaluable asset to the Democratic party. Please support him.
Petedownunder @ 140
I don’t know about the situation in Oz, Pete. We have plenty of capacity here in the U.S. I can say that we have plenty of capacity because people are getting elective surgery that’s covered on a next day basis.
We do have a shortage of hospital-based nurses, but that’s pretty easily solved with money.
People like to cite the Canadian NHS as an example of what we’d get in the US if we went to a single-payer model. That’s nonsense for two reasons: first, the Canadian model isn’t the only way to do single-payer. I’d look to France and Spain, myself for better models.
Second, the Canadian system is distorted because there is a 900 pound gorilla (us, or US) on their border. That allows them to get away with underfunding their system — patients get disgusted and go across the border for care. Worse, because we have reciprocal medical education agreements with the Great White North, many of their physicians serve the time required then move across the border to open a US practice.
It’s a smart move economically, but it’s socially pretty damaging.
BC