(AP Photo/Evan Vucci)
Yep, George Bush was yukking it up with the locals who’ve managed to move back to NOLA today, saying incredibly useful things like "you can’t rebuild until you remove the debris." Well…duh.
Somebody give this woman a huge tip:
But local frustration was also on the menu as a waitress took Bush to task over the botched government response to the killer storm, which ravaged the US Gulf Coast and killed more than 1,500 people and nearly drowned this party city.
As Bush tried to squeeze his way through narrow spaces between tables, waitress Joyce Labruzzo asked him: "Mister President, are you going to turn your back on me?"
"No, ma’am," Bush said, with a laugh and a pause. "Not again."
Joyce Labruzzo got to ask George Bush the question that a whole lot of folks have been thinking since his Administration took office. And his "Not again." response is altogether more honest on so many levels than I would ever have expected, isn’t it? Too bad it was likely a slip of the tongue, and not some newly found awareness on his part. (H/T to Holden of First Draft for the link to this article.)
I swear, if I were in NOLA, I’d be having pancakes for breakfast every single day for a month, just to keep giving that woman a big ole tip.
And I kid you not, in his speech from New Orleans today, the proposed solution from George Bush? The big fix? More leases for offshore drilling. Heckuva job…oh, hell…I can’t even say it any more. Disgust doesn’t even come close to describing my mood today.
(At least we have thus far been spared more joking about the Shrub’s days of drunken debauchery in New Orleans in his misspent youth. That’s probably why they sent Pickles along in the sidecar.)
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NED!
Clusterfuck!
Oh, if only we had more people like her at these staged photo ops…
Having just forced myself to listen to the speech, I am now even more cranky than I was at the start of the day. Am feeling most grateful for a cuppa hot tea at the moment.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 3
The worst part about watching his speeches is knowing that there are people that take every word he says as truth. It is a bummer to listen to him for the educated.
I just heard the “stats” on NOLA from Christy Harvey on the Franken show. Sickening. Infuriating:
– Less than half of the city’s pre-storm population of 460,000 has returned, putting the population at roughly what it was in 1880.
– Nearly a third of the trash has yet to be picked up.
– Sixty percent of homes still lack electricity.
– Seventeen percent of the buses are operational.
– Half of the physicians have left, and there is a shortage of 1,000 nurses.
– Six of the nine hospitals remain closed.
– Sixty-six percent of public schools have reopened.
– A 40 percent hike in rental rates, disproportionately affecting black and low-income families.
– A 300 percent increase in the suicide rate.
Eighty-four percent of New Orleans residents rate the government’s recovery efforts negatively, while 66 percent believe the recovery money has been “mostly wasted.”
From Think Progress.
If photo-ops were horses then beggars would ride.
If life were a phot-op then maybe Bush really would be a good President.
And oh, by the way, “Photo-oping is hard. It’s hard.”
Hugh @ 7
(heh heh heh)
It’s all so freaking sad, controlled demolition of the down and out. Waitresses of the world, stand proud!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 4
Oh, your poor ears! I have to be extra-something (crazy? medicated? deaf?) to listen to an entire speech…know what’s worse, though? I can “hear” his voice when I read what he says…
If I had a way to get it to you, I’d send you some honey from my husband’s bee hives – really takes the tea to a whole new level of comfort…
Good for that woman!
You know that Bush didn’t give her a tip!
BTW, appropo of nothing in particular. Rita Crosby gives us the PERFECT pictorial representation of our nation’s press
thanks, mod
I don’t wanna be morbid, but do y’all remember one year after the tsunami, when the death toll went way up because all those souls who’d been missing were declared dead? Aren’t the “missing” souls from Katrina due for inclusion in the death toll, like, today? And why isn’t TradMed talking about this?
Oh, right, John Mark Carr. And, now, sparkly new news: Warren Jeffs has been captured!
Damn them.
Christy Hardin Smith @
4
I’ve dropped my daily stimulant down to chai cut with hazelnut milk, and even that is too stimulating for dealing with chimpy.
Listening to him feels for me like listening to psychotic patients with formal thought disorders (the sort of non-logic displayed by people with severe diagnoses such as schizophrenia).
The whole time chimpy is talking, some part of my brain is working to attempt to fill in the logical gaps. Exhausting work at times.
Thanks to our friends the plants for jasmine pearls green tea and spikenard berry tincture.
Makes even a morning of chimpy lies at his second-worst crime scene tolerable….and I can still look forward to the woods!
I must say though. I did enjoy CNNs botched mic thing during fartacus’ presser.
Let me just say for the record: listening to an entire Bush speech is not the way to make your headache feel better. Blergh.
twolf1 at 15 — yeah, what WAS that? It sounded like Kyra Phillips…wonder if the folks in the booth did it on purpose or if it was an accident? (Oooh, intrigue at CNN…news at 11…)
How waffle is this prez? Someone take a pix of this fabulous waitress, tag it with the “turn your back” comment, and paper the whitehouse walls!
Christy Hardin Smith @ 17
I dunno but I hope it turns up online. I’d like to get a better listen. I think it was Kyra too, talking to some unknown stage hand/producer.
I bet my nonexistent white stripes that it was Kyra.
It would be funny if it weren’t so infuriating, and then I start to feel my brain begin to soften and I have to change the channel.
OT – Ohio repubs no longer able to count on the farm vote.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/n…..386927.htm
EPU’d, here’s what I caught. I’m sure it was Kyra, I don’t recognize her hair anymore, but it was her voice for sure!
Bet she was talking about her new man! I wonder if she carried her live mike into the ladies’ room? Her tone had that secret kinda chatter aspect to it (I’ve heard!)
http://www.wonkette.com/politi…..197376.php
heh heh
My god, but this guy is offensive on so many levels. He just makes me, and many many people in NOLA angry and disgusted that he’s running the country.
America’s Least Wanted
wonder if she’ll have a job in the morning or if she’ll join sister Kagan in her ministries.
OT: Just received NARAL-America’s latest e-mail …
Connecticut recommendations are still (shockingly):
“United States Senate
Joe Lieberman (I)
United States House of Representatives
Robert Simmons (R-2)
Rosa DeLauro (D-3)
Nancy Johnson (R-5)”
Simply amazing.
horrible fucking stupid asshole president fratboy drunken shithole ratbag cheesebutt farthead scumwipe buttpimple poo-strangler piss-slatherer wipe-weenie sausage-head dingle-fucker rip-stank hiney-waggler perv-nostril mustache-walrus coulter-stradler bipedally-challenged knuckle-scraper nipple-brain pinky-brain penis-brain rectum-brain malkin-licker power-bottom vocabulary-challenged dork-wad pooh-face IDIOT!!
THE WORLD WANTS YOU TO GO AWAY NOW.
(And next time I’ll tell you how I really feel :-)
“It’s all that progress y’all cain’t see, ’cause it’s in-vizah-bull, see? Jus’ like in Eye-Rack, hard work!”
Below thread – Jim, 94
Neofascists? ;)
That “heh heh heh” thing. One, it is seriously un-presidential. Two, it is a “forced we” that tries to coerce listeners into laughing along. Three, it makes me feel like I am getting an unsolicited shoulder rub.
OT, but WaPo is saying Armitage was the source of the Plame leak to Novak.
Oh, and Rove confirmed it.
Is there a Plame-ologist in the house?
ooh! awaiting moderation — that’s a first!
guess i used some naughtee words there, heh ….
ok, futonia calls — see ya’ll on the flip …
astral – EPU’d – yup, I saw the gathering, but can’t make it this evening… (thanks!)
OldCoastie – just checking!
and – anyone else here, there is information on the last thread and on late night from SteveAudio about a Los Angeles firepup get together tonight.
Matt 112 below, quoting Gen. Caldwell,
Does that not sound like the Iranian nut, talking about us invading Iraq?
The only line I heard was the one about the Wetlands being rebuilt with oil and gas money. Great. I was so angry on so many levels that I went out and mowed. Atlanta right now is 88 with 63% humidity but exercise does wonders for the stress level. Christy you are amazing to be able to listen to the whole thing.
Bush’s repeated invocation of individuals and groups (especially “faith-based”) who stepped up has really gotten on my last nerve. The willingness and ability of individuals to help out in the recovery efforts does not relieve Bush and the federal government of its obligations.
Heroism on their part does not replace the failure on his part. It’s his failures that made much of their heroism necessary.
yeah, but Peterr, he believes he is singlehandedly responsible for the greatness and the goodness of these faith based groups…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
The cure: let twolf1 listen so you don’e have to. His liveblogging is much more entertaining, too.
:-)
preview is my friend
Old Coastie @141 below thread – Katrina Cottages – go look at Feingold’s HuffPo piece – he was all over the Katrina cottages option.
Excellent!
OT triple EPU!
kirk murphy – thanks for your reply on MX last night.
angie @ 38
I think that’s called a “messianic complex.” Last time I checked, most churches that call themselves Christian already had a messiah, long before Dubya came along.
Grrr . . .
Did Darkblack do that photo? It’s amazing how he digitally inserted a black person along side Shrub.
shooogarp @
44
Tacky, tacky, tacky !
Highlights: The clip starts with what sounds like “ASSHOLES.” Then Kyra talks about, presumably, a boy of some sort: “No ego… you don’t understand., just a really passionate, compassionate human being. And they exist! They do exist. They’re hard to find—”
http://www.wonkette.com/politi…..197383.php
Peterr @ 38
The abdication of governmental responsibility implied in that suggestion…
How’s about we just turn over our police & fire departments, prosecutor’s offices, schools, libraries, highway construction and national security to “faith based” groups?
The worst is, the current administration would probably find that a Cracker Jack idea.
For all musicians- check out this music/politics analogy. Look at the infamous Katrina -era photo of Bush ‘playing’ the guitar given him by Mark Wills. From what I can tell, he’s fingering a G-major chord, but one fret too high. So it looks like he knows what he’s doing, but if you actually heard the reality, it would sound like shit. I leave it to clever writers to expound.
hmmm– seems after much discussion today that we do indeed have a very complex preznit– afflicted by NPD, sociopathy, and messianic delusions.
If I knew about the mic snafu, I might have listened to the whole speech. Somebody needs to ask Kyra why the woman is always the control freek and bitch. Does she have inside knowledge of that. The link to Wonkette sure can brighten an otherwise dull day.
angie @ 49
stupidity…
shooogarp @ 51
alcohol dependence and cocaine abuse
left blogostan is reading WAY too much into the “not again”. There is no way the bushliar-criminal was referring to not protecting NOLA during Katrina or supporting NOLA since. He was merely recognizing that the waitress is not intimidated by his fearsome presence and not someone to turn your back on. The “again” referred to the moment of the situation. (It’ll be a cold day in hell when the bushliar-criminal ever acknowledges in any small way any failings on his part or accountability for the destruction he has caused.)
.
kirk murphy @ 52
and cognitive impairment! (lest we forget)
Mary4evah @ 41
Good for Russ! this shouldn’t be so complicated! we’ve got the talent (look how beautiful those cottages are and the excellent plan to make them expandable)… now, all is needed is the equipment and some cash to get this all rolling… disgusting that it’s been a year…
kirk murphy @ 54
flatulence
still catching up belowthread
ccmask – thou art genius typing.
How perfect is that? “So Mr. President, your military strategy [for the war in error] is based on The Wave?”
And his “Not again.” response is altogether more honest on so many levels than I would ever have expected, isn’t it? Too bad it was likely a slip of the tongue, and not some newly found awareness on his part.
Oh, I doubt it had anything at all to do with answering her question about Katrina, inadvertent or not. I suspect as he was squeezing his way thru the tables his back was turned to her. When she asked the question he turned around to face her and then attempted to make one of his lame jokes — he wouldn’t “turn his back” on her again. Heh. Heh.
Mary4evah @
29
If you’re willing to backtrack, see previous “Rummy” thread, and my #173.
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Citizen Hardin Smith:
OT but some time ago you responded to a question of mine regarding Fitz and the traitorgate investigation by sayin that you were in contact with some “sources” and stuff was brewin…that was a month er so ago, do you have anything further?
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T LET THE BASTARDS IN YER YARD!!!
Old Coastie @55 – yep, he focuses on problem solving. Also on realities – like the fact that FEMA can’t really competently be a long term housing coordinator, but we do have a dept already existing that can has some of the right expertise — HUD. He’s got a bill – he’s so good.
shooogarp at 56 -
FARTACUS!
From another forum I sometimes frequent, here’s a right wing nutjob’s reaction to the Brian Williams show on Katrina:
“Did you see the show.. my statement was dead on. Whitey Doesn’t get it. Whitey screwed us over and now Whitey is the reasons for all the problems in NO.
What happened to personal responsibilty. State and Local responsibilty? Federal Responsibilty. As near as I can see…the American People were the ones to the rescue… that includes White, Black, Asian, Hispanic, etc…
For Brian Williams to promote the fact the Americans are Racists…Deserves nothing more than to be slapped across his pathetic little minded head.
The more the story gets promoted as a “Racist” situation.. The Least I care about it. If that is empathetic than so be it.
When the Tsunami hit India and Sumatra.. was that story told as a “Racist” Story..No! So we have a hurricane that hit an an area largely populated by Blacks.. A Hurricane that there was ample warnings…Nearly a week…
and it gets turned immediately into a racial issue. I’m quite shocked that Brian Williams and his guests just did not come right out and state “Katrina was a racists hurricane!” Yup.. Those Swirling Clouds were White on that Radar Screen. That hurricane was indeed..Racist!”
These people live among us….
I swear, if I were in NOLA, I’d be having pancakes for breakfast every single day for a month, just to keep giving that woman a big ole tip.
Well, according to the article, her name is Joyce Labruzzo, and she works at Betsy’s Pancake House. Here’s the address, per http://neworleans.citysearch.com/profile/4432197:
Betsy’s Pancake House
2542 Canal St
New Orleans, LA 70119-6408
(504) 822-0213
Perhaps we should send her a tip…
shooogarp @ 56
fondness for kissing men on the floor of Congress
if you’re interested, Eugene Robinson has a great chat up re NOLA — he ain’t impressed by the preznit either.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00604.html
shooogarp @ 56
dysinhibition of speech and voluntary sphincter control
(in chimpy’s case, this appears to reflect disruption of a single anatomic locus. most likely etiology is approximation of oral cavity and external sphincter seen in torodial syndrome, rectocephalic variant)
Is that like Rectal-Cranial Inversion?
bwahahaha, kirk murphy!
shesh @ 53
Like so much of what he says, it is inadvertently funny or ironic. Insipid he does on purpose.
I didn’t listen but saw Miz Laura…does she now know it was Hurricane Katrina, not Corinna?
If Kyra was talking about her sis-in-law & millions heard it, I wouldn’t want to be in her shoes..the next family get together may be a little awkward.
kirk murphy: (in chimpy’s case, this appears to reflect disruption of a single anatomic locus. most likely etiology is approximation of oral cavity and external sphincter seen in torodial syndrome, rectocephalic variant)
Anal cranial inversion?
Christy Hardin Smith @ 16
I know it’s bad, but long ago I stopped listening to that man’s voice. Like…after he was elected the first time. I have gotten to the point that mute does not suffice. A different station or the off button are the only things that keep my bile from rising.
tokorode @
48
If true, the inversion is fascinating: a first position G chord bracketed with sub-dominant roots (the Ab on the 1st and 6th strings) as well as a flat VI (Db) voiced on the A string. I’m reminded of some of the extraordinary voicings of Oscar Alleman from his 1930s recordings (in which dissonant notes of passing chords would be extended as a melodic device to great effect), as well as Syd Barrett’s magnificent 1/2 step drop of a first-position E in “Astronomy Domine,” which, though a simple device, suggested enormity and inevitability.
Given the complexity of the harmonic intervals, as well as the ringing tone of the “open” strings, the total effect would sound like nothing less than total shit.
It’d be innerestin’ to see if there’s a spike in FDL Paypal action ’cause you put up “Tip Jar” as the post title. (top of the righthand sidebar, people) :)
Mary4evah @ 61
and Yes! FEMA should not be a long term housing coordinator… never should have been considered one… but it should be coordinating the clean up… their sense of “sequencing” seems so screwed up… no common sense in Fartacus’ world…
OJ – Read it. LOL Can I get a large drink with my McFascism to go?
Seriously, there are IMO (and I know this doesn’t sound as hearts and flowers as it should) some elements of fascism in fundamentalist Islam. I think that about most fundamentalist religions – where state and corporation merge in the Mussoline def, some recipes do call for adding religion to taste as well. Islam, in the fundie aspect, is about an all encompassing system, where goverment and law is subsumed and made one with religion. OTOH, that’s a fairly fundie Christian aspect too. Let the Old Testament set the law.
It’s so very odd that people who froth at the concept or content of anything “liberal” think that they have any alternative to offer to radical islamic fundamentalism. What do they think combats fundamentalism? Even buying into their “islamofascist” terminology – isn’t liberalism pretty acknowledged to be the “anti-fascism?”
Ugh.
I was kind of getting at neocons, though, and “new” (neo) kind of fascism. *g*
kirk, 67:
(in chimpy’s case, this appears to reflect disruption of a single anatomic locus. most likely etiology is approximation of oral cavity and external sphincter seen in torodial syndrome, rectocephalic variant)
You took the words right out of my mouth! Thief!
shooogarp at 56 -
the flooding? it was just a message problem with the pumps: flat-shoe-Luntz
Wouldn’t worry about more oil leases off of Louisiana, nor care if they throw a pittance into wetland development. (I know that’s not the point of your mentioning this crass comment of W’s).
There are no end of offshore facilities off of La. And wetland development is a complete boondoggle. (Florida on the other hand should fight this crap toth and nail because they actually have beaches and depend on tourism. Even Jeb gets that.)
Didn’t see W’s speech. But some are suggesting that some heckling occurred, and that W had a frustrating time with this little photo op. Did you hear any of that?
Cuz, I don’t see why W wasn’t confronted by an army of angry New Orleanians at every turn.
pol @ 64
I’m mailing Joyce a five dollar bill. Lincoln: a true American President.
Twisted Martini @ 68
Dr. Bong @ 71
In most human primates, the gut is home to the second largest aggregation of neurons in the body. Chimpy’s baseline performance is consistent with a reversal of this usual ratio… and hence in his case the syndrome may be most accurately construed as a net increase in neuronal density.
For this reason, the term “elevation” – though paradoxical with respect to local gravitational norms – may best describe the functional result of chimpy’s unique variant of toroidal syndrome.
Alhtough medical nosologists will – as ever – have the final say in the matter, “rectal-cranial elevation” or “anal-cranial enhancement” may best describe 43’s unique approach to his Presidential orifices.
See why here.
So, correct me if I’m wrong, but doesn’t more offshore drilling promise to further screw up the wetlands? (Sorry if this has already been answered. If I read all the previous comments, there’ll be 100 by the time I get to the end. I’m just not that fast a reader. Thank God my retention is good.)
Cozumel @
46
More CNN and Kyra nonsense here…
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..index.html
The Yes Men strike again! This time in NOLA just a couple of days ago. If you click the link, be sure to watch the CNN video and see a brilliant example of subversive civil disobedience.
Bit NOLA– no heckling audible, unfortunately. What we heard was a mic “problem” with Kyra Phillips talking over Fartacus.
orangejumpsuit @ 77
You took the words right out of my mouth! Thief!
guilty as charged – if i return the words, can i return the mental picture, too? trying to visualize a bush neuron is emotionally shattering – such aching loneliness….
kirk murphy @ 81
Don’t be using those big libral words, man’s got his head up his ass
Booman has an article up – very interesting read:
of course, when the man took the info to the proper authorities, he was threatened with being fired… why am I not surprised?
punaise @ 80
the flooding? it was just a message problem with the pumps: flat-shoe-Luntz
Did you mean massage problem?
http://www.thevoiceofreason.co…..geBush.htm
shesh @ 53
Bingo.
1,256 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Mary4evah:
Now you’ve got it girl!! But what we got here ain’t NEO-fascism, it’s the old tried and true Nazi kind with the corporations firmly in front of the oligarchy. In the late 20’s and early 30’s, the oligarchy, upperclass families and corporate bosses thought they could control the paperhanger…by the time they found out that he was pushin’ ‘em over a cliff, they had already helped ‘im to dismantle the democratic political structures that could have turned ‘im out. The only difference here is that the rulin’ class is united behind our “fartblossom” and there is no possiblitity of a split in the corporate front…but we do still have democratic mechanisms in place, we just hafta use ‘em er lose ‘em.
KEEP THE FAITH AND PASS THE AMMUNITION, THIS IS NOT A DRILL!!
Norske -
I was thinking you the other day…this liberal bought his first gun. Might come in handy when they cancel the 2008 elections and declare martial law.
I’m just saying.
shooogarp @ 82,
Me, too.
pol @ 95
Right On! Everyone send Joyce five bucks!
And since I’m in a giving mood today, I’m gonna go over to ActBlue and give Ned $20.
OT but wrt to fascism here is a great read, imho– T had asked for links in the last thread.
http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0828-23.htm
shooogarp @ 94
Done… with linky to fdl
Ann at 83, your partially correct, shipping channels and water diversion for building did the rest. Our Pres believes in the faith based cure, that the wolves can guard the hen house as long as they are born again.
tokorode @
49
Not a very clever writer, but I’ve played guitar for close to forty years now, the last thirty professionally. And as someone who knows how that fingering would sound just by reading a verbal description, I still maintain that it would sound a lot better that any of his attempts at speech.
It’s all dischord, no matter how you look at it.
Re: Bonkers……someone posted this HUD speech earlier but I failed to get to the video footage. Ah the Yes Men. Would that it were so simple. Those guys are brilliant. Subversive Civil Disobedience indeed. The people we have been waiting to appear in office. Can you just imagine a USA that actually responds to crises with innovative thinking!! Wow.
Rick DeVille: It’s all dischord, no matter how you look at it.
dischord, datchord… still sounds like shit.
:-)
I almost forgot here is my next act today.
#10 envelope
belly button lint
Joe Lieberman
10 Alston Avenue
New Haven, CT 06515
One First Class Stamp (even though he doesn’t deserve it)
shooogarp @ 103
lol, tape the lint to a postcard, it’s cheaper ;)
NorskeFlamethrower @ 91
damn straight, Norske – and just what I was hearing from very rural farmers in Indiana and Oregon this summer. “red” towns my ass – what a corporate lie – the only “red” these life-long Republicans showed was in their faces when they talked about the corporate rulers in DC and how that’s what their fathers’ fathers fought in WWII, when they went up against the third reich.
don’t think the picture looks so good for Rove’s Republican Fourth Reich – they’ll be in the dock within a thousand days. Presidential pardons don’t trump international war crimes trials.
There’s your secure location, Mr. Cheney – the Hague’s prisons. Better than Abu Gharaib – better than what you and Chimp deserve – but international law is too important to deform for your crimes.
thank goddess.
and off to the woods, firepups…
happy tuesday!
OT -
Just happened to check HuffPo for headlines and noticed Elliott calling Jane out in the “Most Recent Posts” section
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..28272.html
Congrats Jane, he’s now promoting you to “character assassin” == which character of those three characters has any character anyway? (I’m not sure which one you rubbed out)
So…
When I was looking up Joe Lieberman’s campaign address on google for my lint donation, I ended up with this:
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=donate to joe leiberman campaign&btnG=Google Search
Note: click through the “Did you mean?” link. LOL!
OT but go WEBB:
(emphasis mine)
http://www.timesdispatch.com/s…..&path=!news&s=1045855934842
btw, Frank Gaffney promoting “islamofascism” again on MSNBC wrt to Iran’s invite for debate.
Dr. Bong @
102
Yeah, and it’s not good shit!
Hmmm.
Just Google: Donate to Joe Leiberman Campaign
Ed Stein cartoon
OT – current Key West radar loop:
http://www.intellicast.com/Ica…..odnav=none
‘My nipples explode with delight, see?’
;>)
Old Sow @ 99
How can you have innovative thinking when there’s so much “hard work” to do “staying the course.” Hey! Are you some sort of cut n’ runner?!? Liberal terrorist-lover, that’s what you are.
Ha. Those guys have nerves of steel! I love how they expose so much ignorance from so many people/companies each time they infiltrate. This latest one made Bush, HUD, CNN, Wal-mart and others all look ridiculous.
Another example of the creative ways liberals think of to end this Constitutional Crisis we are now in. Damn ‘the man.’
They have many of their activities at theyesmen.org.
Mary – Aren’t you really pointing out the irony of fundamentalist Wingnut Christians (who want faith-based everything in this country) calling fundamentalist Wingnut Muslims fascists for wanting to impose their religion as the law of the land?
I keep making this point – and am going to keep making it, even if I bore myself: There obviously is a disconnect between TEAM LOSER’s perceptions of reality and the majority’s perception of reality: Iraq, Katrina, etc., etc. More importantly, there is a disconnect between TEAM LOSER’s perception of the public’s perception of TEAM LOSER’s reality.
But how is a debate about alleged religious control of government good for TEAM LOSER? B/c they put the word Islam in front of fascist? It raises a bigger issue for them – which is the issue of separation of church and state: and it begs the question of how TEAM LOSER’s christofascism is different or better than islamofascism – other than not being islamic ( which may be good enough for TEAM LOSER and Wingnuts, but I think will trouble the majority of Americans).
The more they try new tacts and ever greater lies to defend themselves and their policies and their reasons for their policies the bigger and deeper their hole gets. Let them keep digging.
darkblack @ 113
oh! I was just about to eat lunch, but now I have to wait…
Darkblack!
Get him a…..
&)&!
Don’t tell me that my IHOP waitress is now my wobblie?
IWW-International Waitresses of the World! Unite!
Little red checkbook.
Little red checkbook!
Note to self: Never never ever click on a darkblack photo link again…
Did anyone see this? Via Raw Story, Bush subpoenaed by wiretap lawyers?
HaHa – went over to HuffPo to see the Stephen Elliot column that slams Jane on the Lieberman campaigning with GOP thing and it says “Comments for this post are now closed.” Wonder how many came pouring in…???
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Citizen Hardin Smith:
OT again but have you heard anything at all about what was happening behind Fitz’s wall with regard to the traitorgate investigation and prosecution(s)?
If there is now nuthin there…ken you tell us what was cookin’ that didn’t pan out?
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T BE AFRAID TA SHOOT, THIS IS THE REAL THING!!
shooogarp!
shooogarp @
45
Slipups do happen in photo ops, occasionally
…Go tell FARTACUS!
;>)
the Preznit probably thought the International House of Pancakes was a gathering of Council on Foreign Relations policy wonks …
jumping darkblack, such a gas, gas, gas
Bonkers, can’t get that generalized direction to the yes men website to work. Got a better one?
FWIW,
some good photos of New Orleans post Katrina from a regular commenter at the General’s,
anntichristcoulter.
Bush vacationing at BrushRanch.
http://www.onon.org/asm/stampe…..driver.jpg
1,256 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Harden Smith:
Any word from Jane about Elliott’s pathetic shot at her over at Huffingtonpost? Is she gunna respond?
KEEP THE FAITH BUT DON’T BE AFRAID OF ‘EM IF YOU’VE HAD YER SHOTS!!
Yes, Margot, IIRC, it was on at least one earlier thread. It never hurts, however, imo, to link several times to good news.
It seems to me that a minority of people who were left under 10 feet or more of water were white. Yes, the lower 9th was predominately black. And much of New Orleans is black. But St Bernard Parish was destroyed behind the same levees that caused the 9th to become a clogged toilet bowl. These people tend to be left out of the story.
I just read three opinion peices in various newspapers. They focus on the plight of African Americans. There lives are destroyed. There is nothing to return to. And I admire everyone trying to rebuild in light of all of the uncertainty, the vagarities of the LRA (the reconstruction agency that will pass out $8 billion to cover damaged property).
The biggest racial divide in terms of compensation is that the government compensates for losses. If you don’t have anything (i.e., were not a property owner) you don’t get much. This is where the blacks tend to get really screwed. Many didn’t own. Rents were low, as low as $200 a month. Those prices are not coming back anytime soon, and as far as I know, the government is not going to provide subsidies for rent equivilancy. People on fixed incomes or otherwise limited are screwed going forward.
I am concerned that focusing virtually all of the media’s and blogosphere’s attention of the plight of the African Americans introduces a racial wedge in the discussion. Pain is universal, comparisons are meaningless in terms of individual pain. The hurricane was not a “respector of persons”. It exposed historical racial inequalities, many of which are the result of failed political policies starting with slavery. But the hurricane itself was indescriminant. There are many Catholic, Pentacostal and Baptist churches that are just as destroyed as Mr. Binkey’s Adult Superstore in St Bernard.
I don’t know who has it worse, the family that lost everything but is ineligible for additional government compensation, or the family that has a piece of dirt with a concrete slab, 2×4 walls, and a roof — with a potential payout of up to $150,000, which will mostly flow to Wall Street to pay back mortgages (which technically are not in default as no demands have been made). Both have lost thier social fabric and neighborhood. One is saddled with something to rebuild (but may not have the resources to do so), and the other has what Kris Kristoferson called Freedom – “just another word for nothing left to lose.”
These types of opportunities and freedom belongs to all races in southeast Louisiana, not just blacks. And if you were there now, regardless of your race, you would feel the pain too. Most of the time I spent there just made me nausious. And I was only there to observe.
Darkblack!
As always, brilliant.
theyesmen.org
“I keep making this point – and am going to keep making it, even if I bore myself…”
LMAO.
I agree with your point.
theyesmen.org cannot be found by my server. I guess they’re on to me…I think I’ll go pick blackberries…….
See you guys later. I’m leaving work now to go get my crackers and get all my orchids out of the trees and pick up my FEMA ice!
Looks like it is just a tropical storm but I’m west of Okeechobee. L8tR
shooogarp @ 110
Did anyone end up with the same search result that I did?
“Did you mean: donate to joe lieberman campaign”
Ann in AZ says
“doesn’t more offshore drilling promise to further screw up the wetlands?”
The wetlands need to be fed by silt from the Mississippi River. Due to the dikes and levees, that silt is being sent further and further into the Gulf. Without these replacement soils being deposted by natural river flows, creating natural barriers, the salt water comes in unchecked and destroys the freshwater eco-systems.
Back in the ’20s, the lower Mississippi was about to change channels, which would have left NOLA about 50 miles from the river. The Corps of Engineers stopped that economic disaster by sacrificing the eco-system and building river dikes. Today, the river channel and wetlands extend too far into the Gulf to come back unless we are unwilling to unplug the Mississippi River. This would be like passing a law that everyone has to drive hybrids or bio-diesel cars…in other words, it ain’t gonna happen and the wetlands are as good as dead.
Medaka @ 28: Thank you for that. That covers it pretty well.
Angie @ 11:37
Thanks for the links in the last thread as well as the last one.
You’re the best.
dead last: The wetlands need to be fed by slit from the Mississippi River
freudian sli(p)t?
Anne @ 120
awwww, did I tip a boulder into Stephen’s wading pool?
and he might want to check the HuffPo front page before he posts –
http://politicalwire.com/archi…..erman.html
Local CT Republicans May Ditch GOP Candidate To Back Lieberman…
(not sayin’ that’s gospel or anything, but it does make him look a tad silly claiming Joe’s not campaigning with Reps when they’re looking for ways to back him…)
Addendum to # 115
Even if TEAM LOSER’s original plan was to use “islamofascism” as one of their bigoted “code” words to slander all of islam, they still wind up digging a hole. Remember, damned if they do, damned if they don’t, although they are more damned by their doing.
In fact, they should all just shut the fuck up and quit.
EPU @ 143– agreed!
you’re welcome, T.
to follow up on dead last’ comments…
There is a large seasonal dead zone in the Gulf of Mexico from all the pollution (I believe principally attributed to the run-off of fertilizer/farm chemicals) that end up in the Mississippi. Even if the dams are removed and the Corps “re-engineers” the Mississippi (better than they did the levees, we hope) and some of the conditions for the return of the natural wetlands occur, it would take substantial additional changes in farm/other practices upstream too for their resurgence, IMO.
Old Sow @ 132
Huh..not for me either. It was working last night. Wonder if Ned Lamont hacked it? Mmmmm…darkblackberries…Mmmmmm…
While Katrina was going on I went nuts. I couldn’t believe that our government was letting this go on and on without helping those poor people. I found I didn’t really know anything about FEMA and used all that adrenaline to research what in the hell happened. Of course we know now that what happened was Bush ruined it.
Naturally I saw a zillion posts blaming the state, city and parrish, but I couldn’t believe that was the story and it wasn’t.
During that research led me to a document that I would like to share with you because it shows the dark contrast between FEMA during Clinton and FEMA after Bush. This is about the Northridge earthquake.
http://www.itsdocs.fhwa.dot.go…..13775.html
Now scroll down to appendix A and check out the timeline. FEMA responded with minutes. Not hours, not days, minutes. So the next time some Bush apologist tries to blame Blanco or Nagin, just point out that FEMA started responding to the earthquake before the governor or president declared an emergency. This is how a good disaster agency should work.
BTW the History channel is airing a show about the great flood of Holland in 1953. The US had troops to that country within days. It just makes me sick what this do-nothing congress has allowed the asshole in the oval office to do.
BTW 2, I hope you all have taken the time to put a good emergency kit together because we no longer have a working disaster agency, and I am not joking.
Nothing to do with Katrina, but everything to do with the “war on terror” – Foreign Affairs has a must-read article about the effectiveness of the War On a Tactic.
That’s a talking point you guys should be hitting the Wingnuttosphere over the head with.
gen Russel Honore on CNN now being by Kyra “mic in da shitter” Philips
Don’t know if this has been posted yet, but there is a little stew reaching boiling point in Newtown CT regarding whether Shamocrat Lieberman should walk in the Labor Day parade alongside local Democrats. Seems Joe is not welcome to walk with the Dems. In his trademark rabid dog style, Gerstein is foaming at the mouth.
There is a lot more here than just who walks in the parade with whom. It’s about Joe betraying the wishes of CT Dems.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..28250.html
Kewalo– Clinton hired James Lee Witt and obviously cared about who he hired. He did not just reward his buddies and cronies.
Seems like he cared some.
Now Witt has a company– to bad FEMA isn’t on their client list.
http://www.wittassociates.com/index.xml
FYI – Mary Landrieu is live on WWL radio (broadcasting on C-Span) and they are taking calls.
866-889-0870
Anyone want to ask her why she isn’t supporting Lamont? Where is Mike Stark when you need him?
Gen. Russel Honore on CNN – funny, every time he finishes answering a question, he says ‘over’.
-they are just recapping his experiences during Katrina.
EPU @115 – are you saying I should have limited myself to “goose, meet gander”
I will say, though, that Christofascism does have the “you can get rid of facial hair” thing in its favor. And it has theme parks.
twolf1 @
149
“I got two rolls of paper and a microphone“
or
“Loo-y Loo-y, oh no
Me gotta go
Aye-yi-yi-yi, I said
Loo-y Loo-y, oh baby
Me gotta go”
twolf1 @ 153
It’s a military thing, over.
…like bag, dirt, 1 each, over.
OT – RAW STORY ACQUIRES BUSH SUBPOENA OVER
NSA WIRETAPS; AVAILABLE HERE AT 4:30 EST…
http://rawstory.com/
Landrieu saying “throwing money at big, cumbersome, bureaucratic companies” is NOT the answer to bringing back LA.
This just in, courtesy Huffpo:
Sen. Daniel Inouye (D-HI) yanks his endorsement of Lieberman.
And he does not sound happy, either:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..28246.html
Dr. Bong @ 157
yes, i just never heard it on a CNN interview… over.
Kyra, could you pass the paper? over.
Gimme a sec, I’m taking a dump. over
Please hurry. over
ptptptptpt… over
heeeee!
angie @ 150
James De Witt is the best and we are lucky here in Seattle to have a good disaster manager too, Eric Holdeman. He wrote an article for WaPo 8/30/05 on the destruction of FEMA.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01445.html
Clinton did care. But the destruction of FEMA should be looked at as just one more example of what happens when government agencies are privatized.
OT: Didn’t know if this has already been posted or not….have been away from the computer and haven’t caught up on all the posts, but looks promising. Can they avoid the subpoenas?
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0829.html
dead last @ 136 says:
But I thought there is a plan that is ready to go and has been since before Katrina, to restore the wetlands. I remember copying it onto my computer. They said it would be expensive, but would save the coast erosion in the long run. Why is that plan not able to be implemented? Impractical? Not cost effective? Impossible? Lack of will?
Barry Champlain @ 159
This is wonderful news! I’m quite sure it was the thoughtful email I sent him. ;) As a former Inouye supporter I was pretty upset that he would back a non-democrat. Yipee!
twolf1 @
161
I need TP for my Bunghole!
Isn’t Inouye on the Gang of 14?
Updated list of suspects on the “secret hold” from Porkbusters
http://porkbusters.org/secrethold.php
If it is Carper or Rockefeller, now would be a good time to release that puppy. I’m gonna vote Hatch, just because.
Wonder what Landrieu needed to talk to WWL host Garland Robinette “OFF CAMERA” about?
They went to a nine-minute news break, and the Gov. and radio host removed their mics and walked away “to talk about something” at her request.
Oh, for a Kyra Phillips moment in NO.
Dr. Bong @
73
In 6th grade, someone on the playground said to him, “If I were you, I’d shave my ass, stand on my hands, and walk backward.” Not realizing it was an insult, Chimpy took his advice.
I’m just listening to the 4 o’clock news on wxqr (NY Times FM), and sure enough, there is a report on Rummy’s speech on his remarks on “a new type of fascism.” It as a 20-second summary of what, a 20-minute speech, and they zero in on the one thing Rummy wants them to zero in on.
Agitprop.
Hmm, who has the secret hold, is it Stevens, or Hatch ?
How’s your ‘net neutrality’ now Sen Stevens ?
punaise @
80
the flooding? it was just a message problem with the pumps: flat-shoe-Luntz
Punaise scores a triple. So sharp! A tack, a tack, a tack!
Mary4evah @ 168
I’m going with Stevens.
Keep in mind that the “new type of fascism” is being brought to you direct from the same Pentagon crew that produced and directed: forcible rape is just a little sexual “misconduct”
I have to wonder which one more terrifies George Bush more. His mother? Or Cindy Sheehan?
And it’s one, two, three, four. What are we fightin’ for?
Mary4evah @ 168
with the tone of this thread, I’m going with:
Mike Crapo
R-Idaho
(202) 224-3121
Has NOT denied placing the secret hold
orangejumpsuit @ 171
When the hell is somebody going to stand up and say, “hey Rummy that’s nice but why don’t we talk about the big pile of shit you have created?” They lie and lie and lie and nobody ever says anything. No wonder Christy’s in a bad mood!
Sophist – TPM (as opposed to TPKyra) has a slightly different list up – but Hatch is on both. TPM seems to be leaning towards Chambliss.
hmm, porkbusters is founded by Glenn Reynolds, ‘instapundit’ ?
HotFlash @ 173
tee hee – reverse engineering
Rumsfeld probably doesn’t realize that most people that would call themselves active anti-fascists are already anti-Bush and anti-Rumsfeld …
Sophist – ok, point made (but the link is more fun bc it has pics)
Here’s the Muckracker list link
http://tpmmuckraker.com/secret_hold.php
Barry Champlain @ 159
From the huff post
All but one (Tom Carper) are Dem members of the gang of 14. Cloturecrats
Twisted Martini @ 177
Someone has: http://thinkprogress.org/2006/…..-rumsfeld/
Someone needs to quote the definition of fascism nice and loud to Mr.Rumsfeld.
Looks like they are trying to get out in front of charges of fascism by charging ‘fascism’.
So where are the charges they are trying to get ahead of coming from that they are trotting out this message now.
We have the WH spinning to retro-actively immunize themselves from War-Crimes charges, and Rummy redefining ‘fascism’.
Aravosis nails it:
kewalo: Thanks for the link. It’s hard to even find the words for the contempt I feel for this administration & their crony appointees. They took an agency that was remade under Witt & Clinton into an efficient response team & just trashed it. And people died that didn’t have to.
Shorter Rumsfeld:
“Only WE know the truth and have total moral clarity, so all dissent is naive at best and seditious at worst.”
____
Mr. Rumsfeld, you should be [1] fired for incompetence and [2] in jail awaiting trial for war crimes.
_
TM at 179, right on!
Lou Costello @ 185
Thanks Lou that is helpful.. He’ll probably get fined by the FCC for saying ‘feces’.
BTW, did you really meet Frankenstein?
Mary – Yes.
Also, my latest artwork. I think this is worthy of the front page.
http://static.flickr.com/75/22…..72d2_o.jpg
Since this thread has gone scatological, I might as well tell my very own Bush fart joke.
Overheard at a Bush/Putin news conference:
“Hey Vlad, I’ll bet I know what you had for lunch.” [smirk]
“Oh really George, and what was that?”
“Beans. That’s why you’re Putin!” [shit-eating grin]
So, this has all been reduced to “I’m rubber – you’re glue; whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you.”
No wonder our foreign policy sucks.
Dr. Bong at 168 queries:
Isn’t Inouye on the Gang of 14?
Two possibilities:
1. He WAS;
2. (how’s THIS for a helluva buzzkill?) Gang Member Number One was voted off the island by the other 13, after Senator Clinton held her audience with another [ahem] applicant, the ring was kissed, and assurances of fealty were pledged to the appropriate lobbies, PAC’s and donors?
(Hey, don’t throw stuff! In today’s game, you’d have to be crazy not to consider ALL the possibilities!! :-)
While they are at it, will any of the MSM get Rumsfeld to explain how the Uighars released from GITMO after years of wrongful detention and Geneva conventions violations were the “worst of the worst”?
Or how it is that he was “certain” Iraq wouldn’t take more than six months?
What miles radius he had in mind when he said the WMDs are north, south, east and west of Tikrit?
Or if he believes in Santa Claus?
The CNN Dumb vs Dumber tally thus far:
________
“Who would win a debate on world issues between President Bush and Iranian President Ahmadinejad?”
Bush
37%
23110 votes
Ahmadinejad
63%
38568 votes
Total: 61678 votes
BobbyG @ 189
Right on! (But, please include Rice, Bush, Wolfowitz, Feith, Addington and Cheney too)
Next time any of the NFs [New F….s, oh why should I have all the fun, you fill in your own blank….] in the WH start a spin speech with “some say” it behooves us all to yell out loud: Name one.
Worst. Administration. Ever.
Had Enough? Vote.
EPU-LOL – keep in mind that 27% of the US population might disagree.
BobbyG @ 189
Nice BobbyG-rinse, repeat as necessary
Heavens, what has got into Democrats in the western US?
Daily Kos has stories showing rural Democrats making once-safe Republican seats competitive in the upcoming election, such as Wyoming (Gary Trauner, who has gone door-to-door 10,000 times to introduce himself), Colorado (Jay Fawcett, who may benefit from a Lieberman-like split in the GOP), and Eastern Washington (Peter Goldmark, a rancher-biologist).
We have just a week over two months remaining to liberate this country (and start the Congressional investigations with a Democratic House of the debacle in New Orleans and everything else). I now have to check Daily Kos almost as often as FDL. The excitement is getting to be overwhelming.
Oh, and Senator Inouye now backs Ned.
Sophist @ 186
Ring Ring. Hello this is pot calling kettle.
You mean halliburton will not only “clean up” NOLA but also drill for oil there?
BONUS!!!!!
NorskeFlamethrower @
128
Does a hobby horse have a hickory dick?
who is Elliott?
Riesz Fischer @ 205
Is a frog’s ass watertight?
ironranger @ 189
YW! That link is (to me) the perfect answer when some asshole starts a tirade blaming Blanco and Nagin. I am not absolving them of any blame, there’s plenty to go around, but IMO this timeline of the earthquake certainly points out the difference in FEMA then and FEMA now. And how Bush screwed up a working agency.
You might be interested in an article written by the King Country, WA disaster manager, before the NOLA flood.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01445.html
We’re very lucky to have Eric Holdeman as our disaster manager.
OT, but of some interest –
Tomlinson Gives New Meaning to OTB
[etc., etc.]
The GOP employment machine grinds on…
Twisted Martini @ 206
Elliott
Raw acquires Bush wiretap subpoenaes
in pdf form here – 10 pages
1,256 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Dr. Bong:
I think the appropriate question-response is “Do rabbits fuck?”
KEEP THE FAITH AND TAKE NO PRISONERS!!!
OT heh heh. At least the Iranian President is a scrappy fellow.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..an_nuclear
new thread
Christy Hardin Smith @
16
Was watching Obama in Kenya the other day during supper. I teared up a bit and sniffled some, wife asked what was wrong. I told her that I was just thinking back to the times that the American President could draw adoring crowds overseas. I mourn our loss.
ironranger @ 189
Thanks Kewalo. I’m bookmarking that link, which is http://www.itsdocs.fhwa.dot.go…..13775.html to use for ammo re the upcoming ABC special which is supposed to pin the blame for 9/11 on the Clinton admin. Can’t find that post, it was a couple of threads back.
new thread!
ccmask @
135
Good luck! I’m off to teach a class and then I guess I should go buy some crackers and tuna for the almost inevitable power outages.
HotFlash @ 218
That would just be wonderful. Last year when I did all the research I wondered if it would ever be useful, but just couldn’t stop myself. It was almost as if I was somehow helping out.
You might be interested in this too, it shows how Clinton reacted to Hurrican Floyd in ‘99.
http://www.democrats.com/node/5958
TeddySanFran @ 13
We will never know the true number of dead in N.O. because BushCo quickly moved Kenyon,a wholly-owned subsidiary of Service Corporation International (SCI) to head the body recovery process.
“Based in Houston and publicly traded on the New York Stock Exchange, SCI owns 1,500 funeral homes throughout North America, and has been a close political supporter of George W. Bush since his days as governor of Texas.
SCI has been implicated in multiple scandals—involving unlicensed embalmers, the digging up and dumping of bodies to clear space for new graves and more profits and the stuffing of bodies sent for cremation into sheds.
When the company came under investigation in Texas during Bush’s term as governor, an SCI employee threatened the lives of state regulators. Nonetheless, Bush defended its CEO, Robert Waltrip, helping to scuttle the probe.”
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2…..-s16.shtml
I am sure BushCo’s concern is that more people died in the Katrina disaster than in 9/11 – due in large part to the Bush administration’s incompetence.
Kewalo @ 147
I’ve got that site bookmarked, thanks so much.
I wish I’d found out about it earlier; it would have been really helpful in dealing with some rightwingers who simply said things like “Rome wasn’t built in a day.”
For some reason my posts are being eaten today. Here is a good article on Pres Clinton and how a good president reacts to a disaster.
http://www.democrats.com/node/5958
I’m really delighted that someone can use my research.
Margot @ 223
They are just full of crap! The RWers will do and say anything to cover for their hero. But theres lots of info that he ruined FEMA.
orangejumpsuit @ 150
And what wasn’t in the piece but was in the article was a statement by a member of the DTC saying he was surprised by Lieberman’s apparent interest in the parade since he hadn’t participated in it (although invited yearly) for over 10 years.
CT residents are sick of Lieberman for Lieberman
cleter: Thinking of you! I hope we don’t lose power too early. I only have about 1/2 hour on my laptop battery. On the radio, Jeb said “Folks have been seen jamming the gas stations. Don’t worry, there is plenty of gas available”. Of course, every station is now sold out…I don’t think it will be too bad anymore. Work is closed tomorrow and it is just now starting to get some of the squails! Good luck!