
This is one of my favorite movie scenes. It's from the 1991 film "Grand Canyon" where the car of the character played by Kevin Kline breaks down in a crime-ridden neighborhood in L.A. The tow truck, driven by Simon (Danny Glover) arrives, but not before they're visited by the neighborhood gang members, one of whom draws a gun. Simon asks the head Gangbanger to just let them go:
Gangbanger: I'm gonna grant you that favor, and I'm gonna expect you to remember it if we ever meet again. But tell me this, are you asking me as a sign of respect, or are you asking because I've got the gun?
Simon: Man, the world ain't supposed to work like this. I mean, maybe you don't know that yet. I'm supposed to be able to do my job without having to ask you if I can. That dude is supposed to be able to wait with his car without you ripping him off. Everything is supposed to be different than it is.
Gangbanger: So what's your answer?
Simon: You ain't got the gun, we ain't having this conversation.
Gangbanger: That's what I thought, no gun, no respect. That's why I always got the gun.
Now, suppose Simon is the employer and the Gangbanger is the employee, and then replace the word "gun" with the word "union." I was reminded of this scene yesterday when I read a New York Times article by Steven Greenhouse and David Leonhardt that describes how
With the economy beginning to slow, the current expansion has a chance to become the first sustained period of economic growth since World War II that fails to offer a prolonged increase in real wages for most workers.
Meanwhile, in a related development, the Census Department released a report today showing that In 2005, 46.6 million people were without health insurance coverage, up from 45.3 million people in 2004, and 37.0 million people were in poverty, about the same as in 2004, but up from 31.6 million in 2000. Who could have imagined, but it turns out that a rising tide does not raise all boats, what's good for General Motors (or Wal-Mart) is not good for America, and that even if you feed and nurture the goose that lays the golden egg, you may not be able to enjoy any of the benefits of those eggs. Because even though workers have been working harder, producing more and increasing productivity, they haven't been reaping the rewards:
The median hourly wage for American workers has declined 2 percent since 2003, after factoring in inflation. The drop has been especially notable, economists say, because productivity — the amount that an average worker produces in an hour and the basic wellspring of a nation’s living standards — has risen steadily over the same period. As a result, wages and salaries now make up the lowest share of the nation’s gross domestic product since the government began recording the data in 1947, while corporate profits have climbed to their highest share since the 1960’s. UBS, the investment bank, recently described the current period as “the golden era of profitability.”
Why, the authors ask, is “the golden era of profitability” bypassing most of us? Which brings me back to my "Grand Canyon" scene.
Economists offer various reasons for the stagnation of wages. Although the economy continues to add jobs, global trade, immigration, layoffs and technology — as well as the insecurity caused by them — appear to have eroded workers’ bargaining power. Trade unions are much weaker than they once were, while the buying power of the minimum wage is at a 50-year low. And health care is far more expensive than it was a decade ago, causing companies to spend more on benefits at the expense of wages. Together, these forces have caused a growing share of the economy to go to companies instead of workers’ paychecks.
The key there, of course, is the weakness of trade union -- which is largely why you have the "insecurity" as well as the health care costs crowding out wages. Ezra Klein puts it as well as I could have:
The culprit here is a simple lack of bargaining power on the part of employees. The pernicious fiction that corporations will happily redirect their profits into appropriate raises and benefit increases has been widely adopted -- we're now supposed to assume that whatever Wal-Mart or UBI is paying is exactly what they should be paying, and the willingness of workers to take those jobs is proof that the compensation is adequate. That, of course, is nuts. The balance of power between worker and employer has shifted radically in the employer's favor, and while folks still need jobs, the decline of unions and the rise of conservative (and neoliberal) regimes in government have allowed corporations to set the terms. Those terms, as you'd expect, prioritize executive salaries, corporate profits, and share prices, while seeking to keep labor costs as dirt low as possible. They've succeeded.
I have never ceased to be surprised by the strength and staying power of the "rising tide raises all boats" crowd, those who believe that a strong economy and high profits are the only ingredients needed to ensure high wages, benefits and a happy working and middle class. What they're missing is the role of relative bargaining power in the workplace; in effect, workplace politics -- the process by which power in the workplace (or in the economy) determines who benefits and who loses.
I've spend most of my working life addressing the workplace safety and health problems, and I find similar blindness there as well. Even before I started Confined Space, I used to write pieces for my health and safety friends, and often contributed pieces to various "professional" health and safety listserves that dealt with the politics of workplace safety. Every once in a while, someone would respond by asking the listserve operator to "get this socialist tripe off of this listserve!" A few other, slightly more moderate voices would then chime in pleading with me to stick to the technical subject (safety programs, medical protocols, etc) instead of bringing in all of that ugly, irrelevant, divisive politics. What they didn't understand, of course, was that if you don't understand the politics of workplace safety -- both on a workplace and national level, you can't really understand why people keep getting hurt and dying.
The current administration, for example, operates under the assumption that if you give employers good workplace safety information, they'll automatically do the right thing. Some, of course, will. But generally, it takes a strong, knowledgeable organized workforce to ensure safe working conditions, just as it has always taken a strong, knowledgeable organized workforce to ensure decent wages and benefits (not to mention an 8-hour day, pensions and weekends.) In other words, every gain that workers have achieved throughout history is a reflection of the relative power workers have in relation to management, not how much "extra" management can afford to bestow upon its subjects through the goodness of their hearts. And the NY Times article shows what happens when labor power declines while wages and benefits are left to depend on the content of corporate America's character:
In another recent report on the boom in profits, economists at Goldman Sachs wrote, “The most important contributor to higher profit margins over the past five years has been a decline in labor’s share of national income.” Low interest rates and the moderate cost of capital goods, like computers, have also played a role, though economists note that an economic slowdown could hurt profits in coming months. For most of the last century, wages and productivity — the key measure of the economy’s efficiency — have risen together, increasing rapidly through the 1950’s and 60’s and far more slowly in the 1970’s and 80’s. But in recent years, the productivity gains have continued while the pay increases have not kept up.
The potentially good news is that all of this bad news comes just before an election where voters are registering high anxiety of the economy and the future of the country. Political analyst Charlie Cook thinks the Republicans may be in trouble:
“There are two economies out there,” Mr. Cook, the political analyst, said. “One has been just white hot, going great guns. Those are the people who have benefited from globalization, technology, greater productivity and higher corporate earnings. “And then there’s the working stiffs," he added, “who just don’t feel like they’re getting ahead despite the fact that they’re working very hard. And there are a lot more people in that group than the other group.” In 2004, the top 1 percent of earners — a group that includes many chief executives — received 11.2 percent of all wage income, up from 8.7 percent a decade earlier and less than 6 percent three decades ago, according to Emmanuel Saez and Thomas Piketty, economists who analyzed the tax data.
I said above that this is potentially good news, because the political implications of these findings may ultimately depend on what the Democrats do with them. Peter Laarman at the Huffington Post is skeptical that the Dems can come up with big enough ideas to show voters that they have effective solutions. And we've saw in the last election, Republicans are very talented at diverting voters from their stomachs and sick children to more important issues like gay marriage and shampoo bombs.
Personally, I'm optimistic. Not necessarily that the Democrats will come up with some "big ideas," but that people are so disgusted that they'll toss out the current crowd of 21st Century Robber Barons. My piece last week explains why in more detail. In short, lots of people are upset about the economy, and the recently divided labor movement is working together on the upcoming election.
Let’s hope.
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stay safe, friend
I believe he meant ‘fitz’ or ‘ned’…
speak for yourself
FDL community!
I love the analogy with that scene from “Grand Canyon”!
One of the prime problems (from the perspective of politics) now and in the past has been union members tend to be liberal on most domestic issues, and conservative on most foreign issues. And a little of both on social issues. Perhaps I’m wrong on this. But that’s the perception I have.
ROOTZ!!
But, Jordan, what you fail to understand is that this is the unseen hand in action. The workers are getting the
unseen-hand job.
Great post–this is the message that dems need to find a way to pound–dems should be the automatic vote of choice for working americans period.
Isn’t one key to changing that situation, getting the mainstream media to cover the plight of the workers, instead of just parroting repub. talking points?
That’s one of the main aims of FDL, as I understand it. Right?
No one expected it to be easy, but that doesn’t mean we have to accept the status quo.
s-l-o-w r-e-a-d-e-r-s t-o-n-i-g-h-t ……
Labor’s foreign policy is getting much better, especially since the days of the AFL-CIA when George Meany assisted the CIA in subverting leftist unions.
Lots of unions have progressive stands on Iraq. Even the AFL-CIO called for a “rapid” return of all U.S. troops from Iraq.
Check out US Labor Against The War
hamsters need to be fed?
posting is s-l-o-w too…
Jordan Barab at 14 “AFL-CIA” means AFL-CIO?
freudian hamsters playing tricks…
AFL-CIA ! LOL — good one! I hope Jay Livingstone rots in hell !
hamsters, poodles, the whole gang on strike????
one hand clapping
I’m giving up for awhile. I never was a good babysitter….
later.
Just reading Mark Granovetter’s oft cited 1985 article, “Economic Action and Social Structure: the Problem of Embeddedness”. All economics is truly social. The only way to win is to network better.
And then there’s Kenneth Arrow, who won a Nobel Prize for demonstrating that the economics of compromise will almost always lose to that of domination.
Dismal science, indeed.
Good post. I do this stuff for a living (academic side, not union or business side), and the post is dead on. There are a lot of reasons that people will give you for the erosion of ordinary people’s wages — all of them will test out: a world market for unskilled, semi-skilled, and increasingly skilled labour; technological change that disadvantages the educationally disadavantaged; a shift towards services as against manufactures. All of them true, and fundamentally, all of them beside the main point that you raise. Labour’s bargaining power has eroded to the point where it hardly matters, outside Northwest Airlines, Delphi, and of course the public service sector — mainly education.
What’s the point? The point is that given the short-sighted educational programme for common folk in the US, the technological and trade trends are working against people with high school educations and less. But unions would have limited the direct damage, and if they were the kind of unions we had in the 50s and 60s would be promoting the kind of social policies that could help these people, at least intergenerationally.
The other point does not have a simple explanation: why executive salaries at the high end have soared to outer space. There are some gifted CEO’s, but as in economics, the number can be counted on two hands, and maybe two feet at the most. Gifted means exceptional. Most of the people pulling down the seven to eight figures (some of them nine) are not particularly gifted in much more than schmoozing and (in some cases) graft. There’s no economics of ‘fundamentals’ that explains why the top one tenth of one percent is getting the best piece of our pie. They don’t in other countries that successfully compete with us. It’s politics, plain and simple. They are getting away with economic murder.
Hi *ilson!
Saved.. Join our exclusive little group, pleez!
Ned is on CSPAN2 right now.
http://www.c-span.org/watch/in.....iveDays=30
Hey all, please remember to reload the page/ F5 to see comments that ended up in automod for whatever (who knows?) reason, but have now been release. Refresh comments does not show these.
Jordan Barab @ 14
That is good news. I think it would definitely behoove the Demos to let union members know that in the end, wars do not benefit anyone except big business and therefore by implication, Republicans. Thus, by definition, wars are organized labor-digressive in nature.
This greedy, selfish, uncaring mindset that has infected corporate america comes straight from the top. How W has sickened our culture is going to be part of his legacy that isn’t discussed as often as it should be.
I can only hope that those corporate managers’ stock options expire worthless…that their bottom lines evaporate into very large negative numbers….and that Unions and workers again realize that they are a match made in heaven.
VG Thanks. Been doing that, & nothing was working well at all. Place was pretty dead till you & *ilson showed up. ;->
“Rich man’s war but a poor man’s fight!”
Got an email from a friend who can’t get work after grad school - late 20’s. He figures he will be paying off his school loans until he retires at 65, and is considering leaving the country and renouncing the loans. A majority of recent college grads I talk to are severely underemployed or unemployed. My friend refers to this sad situation as the third-worldification of America.
*ilson must be sleeping off his B’day thingie. He actually commented on your CIA thing, but for some reason, didn’t release your comment that he referred to… OR, to be fair to *ilson, WP has just changed a lot of things behind the scenes, and the mods are still baffled and confused… so, don’t hold that against us…
au contraire VG, Jordans original post was quite visible — check the behind the scenes notes, I am using the old moderating system which is still in place covertly …
Though I’m a doctor now, I’ll go to my grave living the lessons I learned in a union household, the son of two generations of union sheet metal workers and the grandson of a teamster. These men were in the union when it was radical politics. These lessons could be summarized as follows;
1. Always give to the poor.
2. Never cross a picket line.
3. Never vote Republican.
Unions, in concert with Democratic political administrations are virtually the only forces that have had an impact on poverty, and that’s a lesson we forget at our peril.
I spent 20 years representing management in collective bargaining. There are some unions that have an absolute lock on business, such as the West Coast longshoremen (ILWU). They are abusive; I spent 12 years across the table from them. Their power far surpasses their employers. Electricians have a similar power, but it is cleaner. They have a skill and they know it; much like the AMA. All of the other situations I encountered with Laborers,Teamster warehousemen and drivers, IAM Machinists etc., tell a different story. The relative power they once enjoyed (almost equal to management)is gone. Government Unions by force of law still have power, but industrial unions are holding on for dear life.
The problem will not be solved with a resurgent Union movement. The boss had to negotiate in the past because he had all of his money tied up in his plant. He owed the bank and he faced loss of his customers if he couldn’t deliver. It’s a different world now. We don’t make anything, and we can find somebody to break the boycott without effort. Our only real hope is trade restriction. Free trade is slavery in disguise.
a fitz fix
armatage falls on his sword for Bush, raw story is developing the story
Richard L. Armitage, ex-deputy secretary of state, has acknowledged that he was the person whose conversation with a columnist in 2003 prompted a long, politically laden criminal inquiry in what became
known as the CIA leak case, a lawyer in the case said Tuesday….
NYT: Armitage said to admit leak on CIA: Developing…
Adie @
12
Surely you understand that MSM has absolutely NO interest in helping our cause. We (Jane and those like her) are a huge threat to their way of life. They know the score. If Ned wins in CT, it could be the end of their (MSM’s) world as they know it. It will validate the hope that they are losing their gripe on shaping national opinion. Wouldn’t that be nice?
MSM is bought and paid for, just like most politicians. Whether that is good or not depends on whom the checks are written by, and your point of view,no?
OT: 9/11 was Fitz’s fault:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/.....28270.html
*ilson, well, someone needs to stop torturing the mods! We can’t all keep up with you!
Valley Girl @ 35
http://www.firedoglake.com/wp-.....mments.php is the old moderate comments page with all the good old working buttons!
“…no gun, no respect” The Republicans are holding a rocket launcher to the head of organized labor. It’s called “right to work”.
*ilson– but that’s what I have been using, so now I am thoroughly confuddled.
Great post, Jordan.
This would be a great one to Spotlight to some national editors, I think, gang. If you want the establishment media to cover this stuff, we need to Spotlight it, I think.
GREAT MOVIE
http://www.firedoglake.com/wp-.....mments.php is the good version (old)
http://www.firedoglake.com/wp-.....s-full.php is the new screwed up page
In the land down under PM John Howard finally got control of both houses of parliment and rammed through new workplace laws that are a blatant attempt to weaken or destroy unions which were once quite powerful. The big change is to make even assembly line workers independent contractors who have to negotiate their deals independently. The only thing saving the workers is the huge labor shortage of skilled trades caused by an economic boom and an immigration policy to keep out cheap labor from the Pacific Islands. If Australia had Mexico next door, the workers would really be screwed. Howard is, of course, a close buddy of W.
*ilson
Do you remember my offer and your suggestion the other night?
Done.
*ilson- those addys (text) seem to be exactly the same!!!
neurophius @
44
kewl!
Don Beal @ 32
Are you saying get rid of NAFTA and CAFTA? I’m all for that. But how?
hit F5 and you’ll notice they arent — notice the length
A gentle suggestion: a post on the DLC and it’s effect, if any on organized labor.
#32
I spent a small bit of time working on “consulting” for Companies facing Union battles. I also grew up in Buffalo NY- a Union area for sure.
Unions, as they evolved in this Country, did not provide the balance in power that is needed. We can see that.
So what would work? I used to think about this when I was much younger. I think I wanted to go to guilds instead of Unions….
Jason- sorry for the OT intrusion- but the mods are having a hard time with the new regime.
All- if something *seems* to be screwed up, it probably is.
B R E A K I N G
NYTimes
WASHINGTON, Aug. 29 — Richard L. Armitage, a former deputy secretary of state, has acknowledged that he was the person whose conversation with a columnist in 2003 prompted a long, politically laden criminal investigation in what became known as the C.I.A. leak case, a lawyer involved in the case said on Tuesday.
Mr. Armitage did not return calls for comment. But the lawyer and other associates of Mr. Armitage have said he has confirmed that he was the initial and primary source for the columnist, Robert D. Novak, whose column of July 14, 2003, identified Valerie Wilson as a Central Intelligence Agency officer.
So what does Fitz do now?
punt?
bad Armitage! bad, bad Armitage!
*ilson- Can’t you do that BREAKING with a flashing thingy?
And, in the link:
~~The book quotes Carl W. Ford Jr., then head of the intelligence and research bureau at the State Department, as saying that Mr. Armitage had told him, “I may be the guy who caused this whole thing,’’ and that he regretted having told the columnist more than he should have.~~
Hmm… Mr. Innocent Armitage…well, I’d sure like to get ET’s take on this, given his prior info about Armitage…
not to mention Christy’s take on this!!!!
Armitage is the primary leakers, but who told Novak that Plame was covert? And it is not in dispute that ROve and Libby tried to use this info to smear Wilson. Can’t wait till ‘Hubris’ comes out … the neocons are already trying to discredit it.
VG — I tried the blink but its not working tonight — gimme a minute and I’ll make it in red (probably)
Uh-oh, Jordan, you can kiss your thread goodbye if this crew’s got Plame-mania.
it’s in red now — hit F5
“So what does Fitz do now? “
Exactly what he is doing. Nail Libby for lying, and let the whole sordid story come out at trial.
okay, say it with me now: “Fall Guy”. probably *well-compensated* “Fall Guy”, but a chump nonetheless. oh, waitaminnit, I’m sorry–John Q. Public would be the chump, as always…
So when’s Armitage ‘going to stand on a streetcorner’?
Great piece although it saddened me cause I was reminded of a conversation I had with an LA cab driver who drove a 14 hour shift for maybe $100 a day. Some of that went to the cab company and some of that went off to pay off the medallion.
He voted for Bush. Twice.
And all I could do was shake my head. How people can vote against their own self interest makes my head explode. I still don’t get it.
Then, to save my sanity, I pretend that I’m a paleoanthropologist and see this as a form of evolution. Q: Will people stubbornly stick to their beliefs rather than adapt their beliefs to their reality in order to survive? What is more important - their belief system or their survival?
Maybe people are finally wanting to survive.
And if so, is this the shift we’ve been waiting for and will we see the results in the 2006 elections? I’m scared to hope. I feel like Charlie Brown with the football. But I keep wondering how bad it has to get before people change their vote.
Then I’m reminded of the equation: When the pain of where you are exceeds the fear of where you’re going - then you’ll move.
So I guess the question this election is: how much pain are we in? And is it exceeding our fear?
Try bargaining with management when there is no strike option. Been there (Federal Level). The old, I think, MAD Magazine saw, “You can catch more flies with honey and a gun, than with honey alone,” should be kinda obvious, doncha think? Strike or no strike, you have to find that gun or you’re going to lose.
Les aristocrats a la lantern…
Intuition is nagging at me that Armitage is just the stooge. Armitage and his old boss, Powell are the worst kind of toadies. They should have resigned a long, long time back.
youkillednoodle at 34
?!?no kidding?!? sigh! Yes. I. DO. Did I imply otherwise? Didn’t think so.
Isn’t that one of the reasons Spotlight makes it so easy for us to lean on them? It still takes effort, but it’s worth it in the long run. It’s not something we’ll ever be able to let up on during my lifetime. I know that.
There’s a whole lotta mumbo jumbo jawin’ back & forth that’s purely academic*, and esoteric enough that it’s just not going to help workers currently caught in the vise of these modern times, globalism, unfettered greed at the top, enablers holding most of the power in government, and lethargy among media folk about doing their homework and tackling issues.
Support liberal media. Skewer those who would protect the richest, most crooked skunks. Rinse. Repeat. Just what Jane, Christy, Pach and a whole lotta others have been saying.
I got it! I think you’ve got it too, eh whot?!
So WHY am I SHOUTING at YOU? Why are you lecturing me? Beats me.
The current business/labor situation makes me furious, and it’s wrong, and we can’t give up trying to change the system to make things more fair and humane.
Now let’s simmer down and direct our energies where they can do some good…
*p.s., now don’t go accusing me of being anti-academic, either. I’m MS (published), married to PhD(”). We have PLENTY respect for acad.
Harry @ 67
that’s a bright idea !
youkillednoodle
please see Pach at 40
WELL! My goodness gracious. What a wonderful idea!
go-thou-&-pester ->->-> MSM, corp. advertisers, gummint critters, et al.!!!!!
Adie
“Isn’t one key to changing that situation, getting the mainstream media to cover the plight of the workers, instead of just parroting repub. talking points?
That’s one of the main aims of FDL, as I understand it. Right?”
I’m sorry Adie, must be a reading comprehension thing on my part? I thought you were saying if we keep pounding on them, they will change. We know that’s unlikely to happen. As you have explained that I misunderstood, I withdraw my objection. Wasn’t looking for a fight.
Can you smell the sweet fragrance of autumn victory wafting yet? I can. And I’ll bet the ranch so can Senator Lamont. It’s dawn for Democrats soon.
Brought fwd from previous thread…
Ohio repubs no longer able to count on the farm vote.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/n.....386927.htm
I would add that there seems to be more and more evidence that the tide’s turning, big time, in Ohio. More and more people are becoming fed up with the repub. leadership.
Bout time. ;->
Adie
I’ve the utmost respect for Pach’s opinions, and there is no doubt that Jordan nailed it, but every time a “blogger’ nails it, MSM’s palms get just a bit more sweaty. In general, not in their interest to invite in the enemy at their gate. Good luck with that though.
Hey, this is off-topic but over at the Liberal Avenger we’ve got a conversation going among the mostly male contributors and commenters that I strongly feel could use, uh, a woman’s touch. Any help from feminine bloggers would be greatly appreciated.
You’ll see what I mean. Just hit the front page of the site.
APS
Oklahoma kiddo @ 73
Shhhhh Don’t.say.that. You’ll jinx us.
Seriously - I put nothing past BushCo. Big Dog, among others, has often talked about the fact that BushCo feel it is their God given right to be in power and will do whatever it takes to grab it and hold on to it (like, say, stealing two presidential elections). Look what happened when a single Senator they count on to continue their reign of terror was in jeopardy - they pulled out all the stops, including pressuring the Brits to play their hand prematurely to round up people they’d been patiently watching for a while.
Jordanhe,
I haven’t been able to read everything tonight, but I wondered if you had been following the lockouts at The Toledo Blade
This is the latest article, and there are links to the earlier ones at the bottom of the page.
http://www.toledoblade.com/app.....1/BUSINESS
The beginning of the “gee, we’re so, so sorry you forced us to do this” editorial:
http://www.toledoblade.com/app.....8/60823019
GM says doin’ just fine without those union people
http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/arti.....KPDIC1.DTL
Also covered by E&P
http://www.editorandpublisher......1003053840
I haven’t had time to read all this closely, but it worried me to hear that the Blade could be preparing for a nosedive. So I wanted to make sure someone with a labor clue had a heads up.
It is very important to understand the power
of money{capital},the power of non-state or
nation free commerce and the modern state of
the art corporate model.
The historical creation of the “corporation”
enabled the legal means to create focused
capital power and limited legal or personal
risk{s}.
Labor never experienced the same form of
radical reordering of its power…that of
work/time yielded for money/social security
which the industrial age,the manufacturing
age and now the service/retail age put in
motion. Individuals are indeed very unequal
to the power of the corporation.
Unions were one way to address this but in
this modern era of trans-national labor and
production possibilities are unable to stay
in the game. For example the union no longer
has the ability to enforce labor bargaining
power with global manufacturers. Why? It
is now possible to literally move the entire
production,close the factory and leave for
another country where the union has no means
of being.
The answer will be found through the idea
and creation of “labor corporations” which
also can go trans-national and create even
play fields through legal,social and ethics
imposition on the trans-national capital
corporations. Labor must be able to combat
the wealth walk-away currently taking place
and leaving entire communities destitute
for no reason other than raw labor costs
reduction.
Who in America can work for 75 cents an
hour? Or $2 dollars an hour? It becomes
absurd. The American people currently are
taxed in the amount of $500 to $700 BILLION
a year for American militarism. This is an
obscene amount which benefits primarily
large trans-national corporations. The states
of Ohio,Kansas or Vermont dont need the
“defense” that amount buys. Who then does?
The American people should not have to fund
the socialized costs of American International
{enforcing and warmaking}while the profits and
gains are privatized. If socialism is such a
bad creature for the worker class then let
it be so for the Fortune 500 class as well.
The top 10 percent of wealthy Americans are
very well cared for under the present regime.
They will not yield easily or without a very
ugly fight. The Bush tax cut bonaza is for
this group and few other Americans will see
much of it anytime ever.
Nothing ever came easy from the haves for
the have-nots. That rule is very much in
play today. We may think the “bad old” days
are behind us now and everyone plays by the
modern rules of fairplay and enlightenment.
We should think again.
youkillednoodle
apologies here - feeling way too frazzled tonight to stay cool. I may not be a “pro” but nevertheless, I’ve been at this sorta thing a long long time for an amateur, and the patience wears thin pretty easily these days.
If David Brooks and his ilk come out with insane JUNK again as he did last week or so, I guarantee I’ll fly off the handle again.
I understand the pressure points, and how things “yield” one way or another depending on which side’s buttered, etc.
BUT. There ARE ways to have an effect on MSM, etc., without simply pounding ineffectively. There are ways…. Pach is dead right about the Spotlight program.
On a smaller scale in our own community, we did something very similar to save our schools a bunch-a years ago. Short story: It worked.
Thanks for your concern and dedication. You wouldn’t be here unless you cared and wanted to help. Me too. ;->
http://www.cim.edu/download/dlEvRevFrCa.pdf
Ca ira…
youkillednoodle @ 75
Blogs are part of the emerging distributed media ecology. Dan Gillmor talks about citizen media, Jay Rosen of PressThink is launching newassignment.net, the Sunlight Foundation has their earmark project. Its growing quickly.
The traditional news media will always be around and yes they may be heavily co-opted for a bunch of reasons, but we need to communicate with them if for no other reason than to let them hear alternative voices, fact checking, and calling them out when they blow it. We also have to praise them when they get it right.
You can almost think of it as the 50 state strategy. We must work every front.
Great post Jordan. Us working folks have to look out for each other. Doesn’t seem like anyone else will.
Can someone explain Spotlighting?
youkillednoodle at 75
1. letters to editor
2. respectful but tough, honest dialog with legislators, without backing down. rinse. repeat.
3. carrot sometimes more than stick, but always mindful of #2.
4. sometimes, just finding effective ways to get out to the public with, “Look what’s happening, and how it affects your life, your kids, their future.”
(that’s a big reason I’m here. I may not be a ‘pro’, but I can translate the wisdom I glean here & spread to others in our community and way way beyond - e.g., oh how those active elders love to find someone else who shares their concerns . . .)
(((peace)))
dab from CT @
84
Spotlight allows you to forward a blog post along with your own comments to almost anyone in the media. (Please be polite. :-)
See Jane’s announcement: Announcing the Spotlight Project
Don Beal @
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It’s not a very good disguise, either. Watch “The Yes Men”, where they show with perfect clarity what Free Trade is about.
In one presentation, they show how domestic slavery in the US would’ve ended without the Civil War, as it’s uneconomical to house, clothe, and feed your slave workers in the developed (expensive) world. Much cheaper is the option of running a sweatshop in Gabon or Vietnam, and without tarrif barriers, life gets good for a manufacturer who can relocate production.
Not so good for those left behind.
Oddly enough, this is a mistake that’s been repeated before. At the height of their power, the Roman Empire decided that farming their own grain was too expensive if done by Romans on the peninsula. They shifted farming production further afield into the Empire. Much cheaper. The fall of the Empire came not long after, as inflation and distored weath distribution played havoc with the economy.
Likewise, the British Empire shifted its cotton-processing from the UK to India in the nineteenth century. This was also a disaster at home.
Both cases resulted in great short-term growth for the owners of the industries in question, but had disasterous effects on the local population. “History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes.” –Mark Twain.
NYTimes
WASHINGTON, Aug. 29 — State Department investigators have found that the head of the agency overseeing most government broadcasts to foreign countries has used his office to run a “horse racing operation” and that he improperly put a friend on the payroll, according to a summary of a report made public on Tuesday by a Democratic lawmaker.
The report said that the official, Kenneth Y. Tomlinson, had repeatedly used government employees to perform personal errands and that he billed the government for more days of work than the rules permit.
dab from CT @ 84
In case you have lingering questions.
These have helped me:
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....en-thread/
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....-features/
http://www.firedoglake.com/200...../#comments
Adie @ 74
I was saying that yesterday about Ohio, myself. (Or whatever day it was.)
P.S. For youkillednoodle: if we were all to lay down out of depression over fixed voting machines, an MSM that will never change, or what have you, the Rovian forces will be joyful and smug with their victory.
So we don’t. Ever. Stop. Fighting!
just received same article *ilson, from dru.
Tomlinson is a filthy rethug pig, I am so angry I could spit. Denigrating Afghans here, folks, by naming his horses after them.
(emphasis mine)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08.....p;emc=eta1
I’m either over-educated or under-employed, I have yet to decide which. I only know that after several years as a graduate student (Research Assistant: It’s Not Just a Job, It’s an Indenture) I could not stand the prospect of several more years working 80-hour weeks (or more) in a struggle to get tenure, and so I opted to get out of the academic world.
Now I’m a public-sector employee. Immediately following Katrina, my agency continued paying all of its employees for several weeks, regardless of whether we were even in the state. When (some of us) returned, we were paid time-and-a-half while working in “closed” (hurricane destroyed) areas, plus hour-for-hour comp time. Conditions were awful, but the agency took care of us. Now it’s a different story. There has been a change in our upper management, and a corresponding change in the way the employees are being treated. It used to be that several managers and several people with emergency response duties had take-home vehicles. In a cost-cutting measure, ALL take-home vehicles were taken away, except for the top 3-4 managers (none of whom respond to emergencies). Our law enforcement personnel were allowed to keep their take-home vehicles, at a cost of $125 per month. Next, our health insurance contributions were more than doubled. All in the name of saving the agency money. Never mind that we have maybe 60% of our pre-Katrina workforce, and we simply don’t have enough people to do the work that needs doing, these clowns seem bent on driving everyone away. Not surprisingly, those among the first to leave are many of our better workers. Of course, ours is a “right-to-work” state, and besides that we’re public sector (and some of us are public safety as well), so no way is there anything like a strike about to happen. We either put up with it, or move on. I will take the latter course.
STEVENS blocked the accountability bill! Sorry if this has already been posted.
I was setting up this ‘new’ computer during the fighting in Afghanistan and was forced to quickly name my computer something — I chose KANDAHAR — kinda pretty I thought. Now that name gets sent out hidden in every Email I send — I’m sure it regularly trips NSA filters …
Kandahar is a beautiful name for a formerly beautiful place– good choice *ilson!
LindyH: I thought so! Trying to hide his sleaze, I guess.
Back on topic: when are the politicians going to figure out that if people have enoujgh money to live decently, there will be more money in the economy-go-round, and all businesses will do better? (I guess they must have missed common-sense economics.)
So Ted “the Hulk” Stevens is the super duper secret senator.
blech.
Youkillednoodle at 75
Thinking on it s’more, I really have to disagree with you here.
Sweaty palms or no, MSM virtually has no choice about “inviting the enemy in.” The peer-review aspect of blogging not only does their homework for them, but winnows out the chaff & drops the grit, so MSM is virtually forced to accept corrections and valid information, whether they want to or not.
MSM used to control the flow of information to the public, and the Karl Roves of the world fed the increasingly lazy MSM, which has turned into a simple repeater-signal for garbage.
Rise of the blogs releases that valve for good or ill, depending on your point of view. The info. flows. Rove’s days of power are numbered. No?
Perhaps wishful thinking on my part. But, with folks like Pach, Jane and Christy & their gang that DOES shoot straight, I have good feelings about it. Yes. It just ain’t gonna be easy. But it’s a worthwhile struggle.
W/ apologies, I gotta go conk out for awhile. Long day today.
Thanks for letting me sit on your thinking couch. Pleasure getting to know ya.
p.s., will check back tomorrow for further ideas. I promise. ;->
*ilson LOL! great minds!
My knowledge of history is not quite as bad as jr’s, but nearer than I’d like to admit.
Several years ago, I chose “Darmshtadt” (Xspelling!?!X) as a password for something, because I loved the Telemann overtures by that name, & figured they were so obscure, noone would ever….. Then I learned the awful history of that poor place.
So I switched to names of some Arabian horses I had known and ridden. d’OH!
idiotidiotidiotidiotidiot!
lotus hon
we miss u
hope you are well ;->
(((((peace)))))
While I’m confused about the interaction of the components of economic systems (why oh why are there no BASIC books to explain these things) and how the “brave new world” of globalization affects the leverage of unions, one thing I am sure of:
You can only flaunt your rapacious greed, saying the equivalent of “let them eat cake” SO FAR before something’s got to give.
Seems to me that’s one of the basic lessons of history. I wouldn’t want to be on the receiving end of all the anger that’s building up in folks who work their hearts out (with all those productivity increases!) only to find themselves farther behind with no hope in sight.
What, no macaca horsie?
Adie –
“Darmstadt” is the correct spelling. However, your misspelling at least indicates that you certainly know how to pronounce it properly! That’s the right kind of boo-boo to make!
“Darmstadt”
I tend to use names of Russian composers for passwords…
You know, ccmask– I just can’t believe this thieving, cheating, redneck buddy of Karl Rove is part of the State Dept and is responsible for public diplomacy. It makes me gag that he would even think of doing this– it is such an affront to the Afghan people who have been living with war for so damn long. Ahmed Shah Massoud, The Lion of Panjshir, was truly a freedom fighter and Afghan and an enormous source of hope and pride . Karzai (a great disappointment) is still the “democratically” elected President of Afghanistan.
Why didn’t he just call them george, dick and condi? I have no problem with him insulting or revering our own leaders; leave other peoples alone– especially when you’re supposed to be a diplomat and the US is still fighting a war there.
the inhumanity!
*ilson –
For passwords I sometimes use names/words from writings of mine that were published — and not necessarily *obvious* choices from within that category, either.
It accomplishes a coupla things at once:
It would be very hard for someone else to guess — even if they HAD read the rather obscure things I’ve written — and that’s good for security purposes.
It also reminds me that I actually DID once get a bunch of stuff published! (Cheers me up a bit.)
OTOH, maybe that means my next password should be “restingonherlaurels.” ;-)
angie –
All one needs to know about what this administration thinks of diplomacy is that John Bolton is our rep at the U.N.
Disgusting, through and through.
They don’t believe in diplomacy, at all.
Seems to me that puts them in the historical file under the category “barbarians.”
Marksteckle: I really enjoy reading Rosen’s Ghost of Democracy. A whole lot of talent and always a pleasure to read.
Angie: That’s just the way these guys operate. Racist thugs snickering in smoky back rooms thumping their bibles with one hand and stealing your wallet with the other. The reason why I love the Conn. race is because it’s not as easy for them to cheat on the vote.
I swear. You can line up 10 men in a room and I can pick out the Republican. It’s like they have their own “color”.
simmering down now from my boiling rage…
thanks *lson, ccmask and Mrs. K8.
Hugs to you, angie! These are dark times, and we all could use “a little help from our friends.” FDL is great for that.
ccmask — I know what you mean! I think it’s a vibe — greed and selfishness. All of their so-called “policies” come down to that, in the end. Even their racism can be boiled down to selfishness, because they see everything as a zero sum game
ned lud was right!
peas!
what do these organizations have in common….
capitalism
communism
corporatism
colonialism
conquest
cronyism
churchism…
it is
control of production.
gyo!
peas, and such.
A great example of heinous goverment legislation that has crippled worker bargaining power and destroyed hundreds of thousands of middle class jobs are the “nonimmigrant” visa programs, namely the H1-B, L1 and F4 programs. The pro-corporate ITAA or Information Technology Association of American has corrupted both political parties into supporting programs that are profoundly anti-worker. What else would you expect from a organization led by the odious Harris Miller. Yes the Harris Miller, “The Darth Vader of Outsourcing”, who was crushed by Jame Webb in the Viginia DEMOCRATIC primary. Harris Miller, a former farm workers labor unionbuster, immigration lawyer, coporate lobbyist was the both the architect and primary salesman for the H1-B and L1 visa programs. It is a great shame that the Democratic party under the leadership of the DLC has been willing to accept what are essentially corporate bribes to fund the reelection of woefully out of touch incumbents like Joe Lieberman while destroy the careers of some many college educated
middle class citizens. While it is great news Harris Miller’s political career may be over, Miller is back at work pushing new legislation that will literally destroy additional millions of American jobs and suppress wages on a massive scale.
To learn more about the nonimmigrant visa programs and how they destroy jobs and suppress wage begin with this great short article found here in California Labor and Employment Law Review. The author is H1-B expert and UC Davis Computer Science Professor Norman Matloff.
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/CLER.pdf
Also visit http://modernpatriot.blogspot.com/
The progressive blogsphere does a great job sounding out against brain dead trade policies like NAFTA that have only served to enrich the corporate elite while wiping out vast numbers of manufacturing jobs. However not enough has been said by folks like Byron Dorgan and Dave Sirota about the “nonimmigrant visa” INSOURCING scandal. Progressive have a great opportunity to attract hundreds of thousands of new middle class formerly independent voters this election by coming out strongly against the so called “Securing Knowledge, Innovation, and Leadership Act” otherwise known the “SKIL BILL” Face it any bill sponsored by the likes of John Shadegg(R-AZ) , John Cornyn(R-AZ and Mike Pence(R-IN) has got to be just plain evil for American workers.
See
http://www.zazona.com/shameh1b.....-08-28.txt
http://www.zazona.com/shameh1b.....-08-08.txt
The SKILL which would essentially triple the annual nonimmigrant visa quotas for decade years. This insanely pro-corporate bill was largely written by Microsoft and the ITAA. It was personally lobbied for before an unprecidented special committee hearing by Bill Gates himself.
Be forwarned the SKIL bill would open up vast portions of America’s middle class labor force beyond the currently decimated ranks of Information Technology worker, Software developers and Engineers to “INSOURCED” global labor arbitrage. Currently unionized school teachers , nurses and medical technicians need to be very much aware that this bill will allow corporations and school districts to eliminate their jobs by importing foreign worker who will be paid often half their salary. Of course the effect for those able to keep their jobs is that that their incomes will be under increasing wage pressure.
For an example of how the H1-B visa programs could be used against the nursing and teaching professions read:
http://www.zazona.com/shameh1b.....-07-11.txt
http://heather.cs.ucdavis.edu/.....achers.txt
Progrssives should unite to wrap the SKIL bill around the Republicans necks and sink them with it. Labor unions already opposed to the SKIL bill have helped put the previous untouchable house seat of Republican Mike Pence(IN-06) in play. This is a potentially huge winning issue for progressive and pro-labor Democrats.
PS: Currently is looks like the Republican Leadership is deathly afraid of passing the SKIL bill before the election. THEY DAMM WELL SHOULD BE!!!! However, even if the Republicans along with defacto Republicans like Joe Lieberman go down in defeat, there will be a major push to pass the SKIL in the lameduck session.
Adie @
85
Adie
This is what I do, exactly. I do have difficulty with the “respectful” part sometimes, as some people are so incredibly dense. The local editors are “Libertarians”, which to me seems like a cope-out. So, they print an article on trans fat, saying everyone one knows the danger and can make their own choice, I take them to task. They print an article about “oil shortage” and I tell them “rubbish, there is NO evidence of a shortage, just talking points printed by the likes of them, and the answer is conserve, not drilling wildlife refuges”.
Same with Alito, or my favorite, “the dems have no room for a moderate like Joe, where’s their big tent, etc.” to which I say WTF? Why should the Dems embrace a Repug in their ranks? Do the Repug “big tent” progressives?
As I wrote to the local paper six months ago, “The most disturbing aspect of your editorials is that some folks will actually believe this garbage, please do some research on your subject before you write again”. I was pleasantly surprised that their response was to be invited as a guest columnist and a face-to-face meeting.
But this is a local paper, without national conflicts of interest. Even David Corn quickly sold out when the subject was his good friend Ms. Novak, as Jane once pointed out.
So, depressed? Hell ya. But energized. Practical. Always keeping in mind that doing the right thing will often cost you a paycheck at the end of the day. This I do know.
Today’s project: Try to get the local council to stop draining our little lake for the golf course sprinklers. Wish me luck.
More on this here:
http://phoenixwoman.blogspot.c.....ryone.html
No, no, no, no, no. This is not right. It can’t be.
I was specifically told in college that when PRODUCTIVITY GOES UP then WAGES GO UP.
And when I asked why, as in “who’s going to make that happen, who’s going to force executives & investors give additional productivity profits to workers” even my more liberal economics professors looked at me in blank confusion at my lack of sophistication.
I learned really quickly that asking questions like this made me a crazy leftist.
Gosh, I sure was crazy. And they tell me that someday if we keep helping the richest of the richest do better and better that somehow it turns around to help all of us.
You know, like how in the 1980s the richest yuppies started spending a fortune on good gourmet coffee, and now you can go into any truck stop and get a Guatemalan blend coffee or cappucino?
See, a RISING TIDE LIFTS ALL BOATS. Well, except for the boats on the perpendicular side of the planet. And for boats that are in freshwater, or in drydock.
I asked similar questions about NAFTA, but since it was a bipartisan Republican / Wall Street bill to protect investors and undercut worker rights led by Clinton, everyone just told me I was one of those Ross Perot crazies, even though I was talking to US and Mexican workers unions and organizations.
Gosh, it’s bad to be a crazy leftist — because everyone always thinks you’re crazy, and then you turn out to be right, and no one cares that you were right in the first place.
youkillednoodle at 115
I’m baaaaack, just as I said I’d be.
[after good night’s sleep, whew; dear kitty who’d been scaring us with mystery-ailment yesterday slept tw’ our heads all night, “thanked us” quite openly for taking her to vet yesterday(!), & she’s bouncing around like a kitten today - you gotta have known an Aby to realize how they are - smarter & more human than most people.]
- all this aside…
LOVED reading your piece this morning. How funny we kinda locked horns yesterday. We (me, my hubby, & a bunch of our Univ. biologist buddies & new-ish Elderhostel friends)…
http://www.elderhostel.org/about/default.asp
…are doing pretty much the same as you. All of us with our heads down, refusing to give up… It’s so wonderful for the spirit, to know there’s a determined band of brothers & sisters all across this land pretty much doing the same.
Some, like our univ. friends, are self-starters - so we merely share news & material each of us finds available, etc.
Others, like some of our neighbors, just are not openly political in any way and don’t dare be, but they’re every bit as upset with the status quo as we are. So they soak up whatever we give ‘em, and work on their extended family, “redstate” inlaws & the like - armed to the teeth so they can counter the latest limbaugh-garbage-spew.
One dear, formerly shy lady has gotten to the point that she WILL. NOT. BACK. DOWN(!) if any of the inlaw dittoheads starts spouting repug talking points. She, with her highschool education, backs him right up into a corner & leaves him quivering there, fearing for whether he’s gonna be allowed to join the family picnic. Neat lady!
Agreed. It is sooo hard to remain respectful with the the politicians and wilfully blind newspaper eds. Tell me about it. I’m in OH, groan. There’s a fine line, tw’ what passes for respect, and cowtow-ing. I work hard not to cross it. But I don’t pull punches either. I just make sure to keep language cleaner than what’s rattling around in my head and slam the issues as hard as possible, with backup that doesn’t allow them to squirm off the hook.
I also send an appreciative snippet to some if & when they actually do something “good” - a rare occurrence, but it has happened. Such ‘notes’ are just sent thru legislator’s webpage with no fanfare, & certainly never made public in a letter to editor etc. I don’t want to “help” them, just keep them listening & give miniscule credit where credit’s due.
DeWine is scrabbling like a wounded puppy for anything positive these days, so such crumbs are eagerly lapped up, oogh. (example of something good: DeW’s pretending to be “green” lately, so he votes to save nice high-profile, newsworthy ANWR; so-o-o, he gets a “good boy” crumb every time he does that) But I also have him/his staff answering e-mails with subject-specific, pretty-much on-point replies these days, …as Sherrod Brown pulls farther ahead, heh heh.
Hubby and I sign most of those issue-related petitions we come across, also. We do not feel obligated to send $$ with every one, but we do feel it helps to send in the petition - can’t hurt… I was getting RNC survey forms for awhile too; again, no $$$ sent at all, but I absolutely slammed them upside the head at every opportunity throughout the survey, & sent it off to them. Funny thing. They kept sending me more surveys, of various types. So I kept getting out my heavy-duty flyswatter & swatting ‘em again & again, letting them know exactly how upset I was with specific policies, point by point, all the way through. I finally tired of the game, but often wondered what their little machine-tally did with those rants, heh. Made me feel better, whether they were read or not. *g*
Sorry to babble on ad nauseum. Nice to know we’re on the same page after all.
I, we, do indeed wish you luck. Admire your drive and success. Guest op-ed! Waa Hoo! WAY TO GO!
{{{{{peace}}}}}
Great post.
One point I would like to make is that establishment Dems are no saints in this issue either. My own Congressman, Dutch Ruppersberger (D-MBNA/Bank of America), voted for the heinous bankruptcy bill, for example. Democrats, in order to get votes and please the media like to be seen as pro-business.
IMO, the establishment Dems won when we selected Kerry instead of Howard Dean in ‘04. The media did a wonderful hit job on Mr. Dean during and after Iowa. I still have not forgotten those ads that the establishment Dems put out there then.
Given the Lieberman campaign, it is going to just as big a battle to reform the Democratic party to a party for the people as to actually win the House and Senate back. Don’t get me wrong, I will pull the lever for the (D) come November, but push back against corporate America is needed more than ever once we win Congress.
The movie is one of my all time favorites and I love the scene with Kevin, Danny and the Gang banger, but the analogy isn’t right. The scene depicts the disintegration of civility in a culture that took a wrong turn somewhere within the time-span of the two generations and Kline and Glover are baffled, disillusioned and frightened that the promise that they had come to believe was America has disappeared. The gang banger is caught up in the violence of cultural disintegration and is eking out an absurd kind of meaning for himself. Unions on the other hand are worker’s reactions against abuse of power in the workplace by employers. In fact, the gang banger is the one that is abusing power in the movie scene. To me, the similarity to compare is how abuse of power manifests at all levels of society. There is no limit to the forms and ways how our freedom to exist is encroached on. and Glover’s statement “You don’t have the gun..we’re not having this conversation”. That’s speaking truth to power. That’s about courage.
Wigwam @ 7
Yeah, BUT, the analogy implies unions (per Simon’s view) are illegitimate means to achieve legitimate ends (or, to obtain reasonable power) in this political economy. I agree that the dialog (under the analogy) correctly points out that pursuit of legitimate ends often generates inconvenience to by standers or passive stakeholders. It does not, however, imply personal assault.