Jennifer Lawless is running for the House in Rhode Island against agressively anti-choice candidate Jim Langevin. As Matt Stoller points out, her ad is terrific, exactly the kind of unapologetic ad a pro-choice candidate should be running in a blue state where pro-choice matters. It's emotional, hard-hitting, it has authority and she picks a fight. She comes off as sensible, no-nonsense, and standing for something. Major, major kudos to her campaign for its messaging and the ad's creators; it really works.
On the other end of the spectrum there's NARAL, who are launching their own campaign to elect pro-choice candidates in the fall. Which is great, we wholeheartedly approve. On their info page regarding "what you can do about it," they call to "block anti-choice justices," and "elect pro-choice Senate candidates in 2006 who can help block anti-choice Supreme Court nominees." Fabulous. But do they mean Senate candidates Lincoln Chafee and Joe Lieberman, both of whom have NARAL's endorsement, who both voted for cloture on Samuel Alito? Does this pass anyone's smell test?
As a side note, long-term visitors to this site will remember that our Lamont/Lieberman and Chafee coverage began during the fight against Alito when the Gang of 14 announced it would vote for confirmation. I called NARAL that day and asked if they were going to pull Chafee's endorsement as a result of his cloture vote. Many will recall we were told that NARAL did not consider a cloture vote to be "significant," and when I raised an objection to this I was told that someone would get back to me. Nobody ever did.
Recently I learned that they have pointedly never called back, assuming that I would just go away.
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Lucy Lawless!
GO Jenn!! There’s been enough ‘lawlessness’.
stinkin’ dial-up. ; (
Xena!
I love her! More Lawlessness!
i think choice is just not a good issue. except for the hardcore, who vote anyway, most people just find it distasteful and dated phrasology.
we need to update the playbook on that.
Sorry to be O/T, but in reference to the the GOP Bitchfest thread, here’s a link that may not have been posted:
http://www.coloradoconfidentia.....iaryId=545
Could the voters of Imam Dobson’s home town be getting fed up with the Talibangelists? Pragmatists in the Mile High City watch with interest….
OT– bush just said that he needs to keep ex-pec-ta-tions low.
he don’t watch teevee, except baseball.
exhuming mccarthy: you must be new to this saloon, eh?
Well said.
You’re honourable, honourable to me,
Loyal to the Bank of America…
Jane, as you’ve mentioned previously, the scorecards that organizations like NARAL use to rate lawmakers is grievously flawed. Joe’s vote against Alito’s confirmation was considered a “pro-choice vote”, even though the REAL vote, the one that mattered, was the vote to end debate.
Joe, of course, lined up with the rest of the jackasses and voted FOR cloture.
NARAL and Planned Parenthood chose to ignore the significance of that vote, and proudly stand by their support of RG Joe.
It really does make me believe that these organizations would like to see more threats to choice, which will keep their jobs safe and coffers filled.
We need to keep in mind that it ain’t only the right who can be corrupted.
PeteCO @ 13
great song…
Jane, as you’ve mentioned previously, the scorecards that organizations like NARAL use to rate lawmakers is grievously flawed. Joe’s vote against Alito’s confirmation was considered a “pro-choice vote”, even though the REAL vote, the one that mattered, was the vote to end debate.
The “scorecard” is just a bullshit excuse anyway. If they really gave a shit, they would say, “You know what, *fuck* the scorecard! We’re not supporting anyone who voted for Alito!”
And don’t expect me to believe that they don’t know what cloture is.
Sugar Pea– re: YouTube uploads, I am on dialup, so I don’t know if this is helpful for anyone else, but immediately the YouTube window opens, I right click and choose “quality” and reset for “low quality”. Sure helps speed things up, and usually no great loss.
exhuming mccarthy @
7
Playbook? There is no playbook on this. I’m not willing to cede control of my body to some Dick who can’t control his.
VG - Thanks for the tip. You should see this in…
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chirp. chirp. chirp.
The scorecard is a system that gives these groups cover to endorse Republicans, against the interests of their donors. Being non-partisan means being committed to failure.
Na Na Hey Hey (Kiss Him Goodbye)
By: Steam
(Gary DeCarlo, Dale Frashuer and Paul Leka)
1969
Enemy Sighted, Enemy met,
I’m addressing the Realpolitik….
What makes it great is that I had to wait twenty years from when I first heard it, AND move to the US from the UK, to really understand it. That’s some great songwriting.
Hoooray CTBob!
exhuming mccarthy @ 7
well, when roe v. wade gets overturned ater the next Supreme Ct. appointment, and abortion is only legal in blue states, maybe it will come back into style.
maybe young women giving themselves amateur abortions in people’s basements will bring the issue into America’s living rooms via cable TV.
You highlight an important point. Probably, most women under 40 take reproductive choice for granted. The pioneers in the choice movement became political activists because they were personally affected by illegal abortion. Some had mothers who died from them.
It’s been a long time since 1973, and Americans have short memories.
Geez, who would have thought we’d find ourselves doing Vietnam redux in 2006?
OT- FUCK GEORGE BUSH.
Wonderful ad!
I need to wait for a few days before I can give her a pittance.
exhuming mccarthy @
7
You sound like an expert. I’d love to see your links proving that this reflects the views of Rhode Island voters and not just your own personal slant on how we girls should STFU about having dominion over our own bodies and stop screwing up elections.
LindyH @ 18
I think (hope) they meant something more along the lines of re-framing the issue. There was an episode of “30 days” last week that really drove home that point for me… “choice” has been successfully painted to mean “pro-abortion”, and that’s simply not what it is. We need a better way to convey that even if you personally never would have an abortion, but understand that others may need to, that puts you firmly in our camp.
We also need to get the message out that our side abhors abortion as much as anyone, and that reducing the number of abortions in this country is held as a goal equal to ensuring the needed access to them.
LindyH @ 17
I like that.
“Being non-partisan means being committed to failure.”
Amen brother.
It seems like all I do when I watch the teevee of listen to the radio and hear the appeasing non-confrontational Dem pundit or politican roll over is scream ATTTACCKKKK! {royalty on its way to TRex}
non-partisanpussy.This is a really good ad, especially given that it’s about such a hot button issue. It starts in the best, most doubter-disarming manner possible:with rape. It’s hardest to argue forced childbirth when you’re talking about rape victims. From there the rest is reasonable. The ad is simple, clear, hard-hitting. The target is almost assuredly independent, middle of the road, pro-choice or on-the-fence voters, and I think it’ll be effective.
exhuming, put the sauce down.
Without people like Joe Lieberman and Sam Alito, people who are working at NARAL would have to get a job.
Considering their effectiveness over the last, oh, 30 years, I imagine it would not be a very high-paying, influential job.
Hence the adversarial symbiosis.
Does this pass anyone’s choice test?
Jane:
Glad you agreed with me that this was a great ad. :)
Looks like we have a DLC strangulator here, “oh, don’t take such a ‘radical’ position.” “The middle! Don’t forget the middle!” Or Poland. What wanking.
Where has being “nice” and “accommodating gotten us? It’s easy for the DLC strangulators to be so accommodating–with MY body.
And to such people, I extend the one-finger salute.
NARAL’s gotten an earful from me when they call of late. Someday, they might get the message that they’re not getting any more money until they throw out their stupid scorecards–from me, or from a lot of people who are willing to fight the good fight for this issue.
meta @ 25
Is there any other topic?
our 68-yo Congresslady had several friends in high school that died from “operations” — she is firmly pro-choice !
exhuming mccarthy @ 7
I went to a NARAL event in NYC in 2004 and most of their signage said Pro-Family/Pro-Choice. Don’t know if they’ve come up with something different since then
Gary DeCarlo, Paul Leka and Dale Frashuer wrote “Na Na Hey Hey Kiss Him Goodbye” in the early 1960’s when the three were members of a Bridgeport, Connecticut band, The Chateaus.
shoogarp, sorry, I just watched him on the news saying the most insipid, insulting, empty-headed jackass shit about Katrina. Good god, put this guy out of his pissery.
Bumpersticker on my truck since 1989.
Pro-child
Pro-family
Pro-Choice
Urban Pirate @ 41
Pro-Child? Everyone knows that after they’re born they’re no longer important.
Geez Jane, ain’t it pitful how we girls keep screwing up electshuns? I mean like, we godda get it t’gethir and stop using the F word (or evin thinkin about it). We got our cridibity ta cunsider. ~~~
Jane Hamsher @ 29
Me too. Anti-choice men also seem quite taken aback by “why should YOU have the keys to MY uterus?” When I make my position known, it’s direct; it’s unapologetic; it’s personal.
Got a good laugh a while back when I saw a good ol’ boy riding around in his beat up pick-up truck (sign of a REAL Texan) with a sticker that said:
Don’t like abortion?/Don’t have one!
This wasn’t in Austin, btw
Valley Girl @ 42
I’m being good. I thought TWICE about making this comment, and deleted it.
Eli @ 41
hah. Not in this house. After my 5 y.o. was born I became no longer important. :)
I would like to see legal-abortion movement in terms of “pro-lives” - the lives of women, children, families, communities.
nuttin’ downwind of WWWindbreaker passes the smell test.
VG-I right click & get some macromedia stuf-nothing allowing me to change quality….
:(
but GREAT COMMERCIAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
meta @ 39
LMAO! Yep, sounded as though he got the Texass Twang crossed with the Louisianna Lounge and the dentures were falling out. Did he have a head injury in the past?
LJ-
Don’t like abortion?/Don’t have one!
so…
Don’t like preggers? Don’t have sex!
(not that this covers all, and certainly not the worst of it…)
Valley Girl @ 42
Actually, 50% of women (plus or minus) vote every election against their own rights in this regard. I have NEVER understood this.
Of course, the wingnuts actually do want to ban unmarried sex, and contraception within marriage, and anything other than the missionary position.
OT, astralplame, I’m still chuckling from a few days ago when you wrote, “Joe Lieberman, you put the ‘I’ in team.”
meta @ 40
I’m with you. I’m kinda taking a sabbatical from teevee for while. Can’t handle it. Wouldn’t be great if Bush was talking at the podium one day and he just simply disappeared? poof!
Paging God. Please rapture bush just on a lark. We don’t neeeeed him anymore.
Valley Girl @ 16
I’m on dialup here too
I use Internet Explorer for most of my innertubing, but for youtube I have a mozilla-firefox window open
I transfer the link to the mozilla window, wait a few minutes for the download to finish, and then hit “replay” to watch the whole thing without stoping every two seconds
other than YouTube, mozilla sucks for me. IE can do everything but YouTubes over a dialup connection. you just have to wait a little longer
that’s why I got 20 windows open right now
always something loading, and always something to read
I’ll be back in 5 minutes …
When anybody starts talking about this sanctity of life crap, I refer them to my own little essay about the brutal death of Gerri Santoro for a reminder of how illegal abortion does anything but respect life.
*ilbo @
50
Maybe getting that flight suit on.
ruffian- you have to do the right-click thing AFTER you do an “ordinary” click on the YouTube link, that is, do the right-click thing after the YouTube thing starts to load. Otherwise, I get the same as you seem to experience. Alas, I can’t see any way to change the YouTube default quality. Does this help?
Valley Girl @ 52
But…that’s what they ultimately want, isn’t it? No sex, unless it’s purely for reproduction?
Never understood that mindset.
Perhaps I have a perceptual problem on the choice issue. But it seems that it’s mostly men who scream the anti-choice bit so often and so loudly. Wonder if that has to with the fact that men don’t have babies? Might it be different if it were men being forced to have children against their will.
John Casper @ 54
blushing, but that is funnier than what I said! I said he was Joseph “I put the ‘I’ in ‘I’” Lieberman.
astralplame @ 47
I’d like to see it as pro-privacy.
If I have the right to be secure in my person, house, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, then I have the right to be secure in my uterus.
Pachacutec @ 52
Exactly. They’re settling for less than that now, but only as a temporary stance. There is no “compromise” with them on the abortion issue, because they aren’t negotiating in good faith. They want to unilaterally turn back the clock, and once they get the power to make things that way, nothing will stop them short of force.
Come to think of it, that’s the way they are on EVERY issue. Time to drop the accodationist bullshit on all fronts, and just attack.
Pachacutec @ 53
I have a strong theory that the whole crux of this agrument is to increase the birthrate among the “believers”.
Apparently it’s working, I heard the other day that the birthrate among fundies is almost twice that of liberals.
An uneducated, poor, indoctrinated, rapidly reproducing majority works really well for Rev. Dobson et al.
Urban- me neither. More than that, there are many R’s who continue to vote against themselves on economic issues, e.g. It is a real mystery.
All the guys are gonna leave if we start talking about uteruses.
Obama was slammed by Kenyan politicians after he made remarks about the dangers of corruption in that country. I have to agree with the Kenyan politicians. In 2005 out of 159 countries there were 9, I repeat 9, that were considered more corrupt than Kenya. So where does Obama get off criticizing them?
http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0781359.html
freepatriot, good luck with UAB on Saturday.
OT, John Dean has a nice section in CWC about how all the wingnuts militanty anti-choice wingnuts are militantly pro-death penalty.
Goose meet gander.
I don’t like the choice to have rape be the way in to the abortion debate. There are plenty of “moderates” who are in favor of the right to choose in cases of rape and incest. To me, there’s nothing moderate about this position; anything short of women having dominion over their own bodies is bullsh*t. This commercial is giving up ground from the very start. I can’t call it unapologetic.
op99- the good guys will stick around. They are the xy mainstays of FDL, and they can be counted on.
op99 @ 67
Hey! We put the “us” in uterus!
Also, real quick before I leave work, are there any LA folks who want info on the meet-up tonight?
Hugh, Unleaded regular is #3.87 here in Montauk, NY.
Even though I’m an Aussie. I have written to NARAL several times and have had a back a forward debate with one of the Executives (I told her I was from CT but just keep that to yourselves, it was a little white lie other wise I feel I would have been fobbed off)
Unfortunately I’ve deleted the emails.
The First one I received was a form letter. I assume they used it to reply to everyone who questioned their support for Lieberman (I know this because I saw the same “Form letter” email posted here more than once) but after I chastised them for sending me an impersonal form letter as a reply. She at least had the decency to return my emails and reasons why (their support for Lieberman) with me.
I am still quite pissed off to be honest and can understand the frustrations of you guy’s who are in the US trying to fight the ignorance and Hypocrisy of organisations such as NARAL who definitely should not be supporting a Republican Hack like Lieberman. Because that is all he is, a shallow, pathetic Weasel! One who I have no doubt would go down on Bush if it meant keeping his seat in Parliament.
All I can say is…Hurry up with the Rapture already!!!….I can’t wait to see the look on all the Neo Cons faces when JC Say’s they are all going to HELL!!
uterii
Can I talk about my prostate?
Urban Pirate @ 66
I believe that polygamy in the Mormon religion was just the business plan for growth.
percy @ 75
are you Bob Dole?
all the xx talk is a fair trade-off for the Joe-agra of the past few threads…..
percy @ 75
I’m tempted to say no, but it’s Jane’s blog.
freepatriot @ 57
LOL!
I usually hit play on the YouTube, walk into the backroom of my gallery, put burrito in the microwave, pull out a magazine, call a friend….
percy @ 76
them’s fun !
percy @ 75
pro-state’s rights? then have one.
percy @ 77
Yes, if it is an important issue for you. Bushco. ain’t so great on men’s health issues either, tho the having a baby thing is kinda the trump card for the present discussion.
astralplame @
72
Dang, astralplame, I though it was tomorrow night! I can’t make it but please say hi to redshift for me (what’s that boy doing in CA?) and hoist a virtual few for me, too. In fact, I’ll buy a virtual round!
Next time, I hope.
Knock, knock.
Who’s there?
Babs’s uterus.
Babs’s uterus who?
I don’t know, Babs. But I do know this…
Lieberman’s an ass.
I think I’d better leave your prostate alone.
Must go. Wife and I taking our respective reproductive organs out for a walk. ‘Night all.
percy @ 76
Is the government trying to control your prostate? The nerve of them!!! Tell us all about it.
op99 @ 76
You’re right, it was. For Millennia, religions have used all sorts of “encouragement” to help build their armies “from the ground up”. Over centuries, a ramped up birthrate can be the difference between being the owner and being the slave.
Firefox crashed and I lost my bookmarks a while back. Remember the story about the Guy (a veterinarian) who Jr. placed in charge of womens health issues for a time?
Urban Pirate @ 66
This is one of the reasons why I’m going have some kids. Muddy the gene pool if you will. Raise em’ on honesty, integrity, compassion (the regular kind), charity, logic, reason, a little Jackson Browne, a whole lot of Beatles and BAM!
A little liberal. Dobson. Kiss. My. Ass.
All of you liberals out there that don’t have kids, breed tonight we need more troops. Or, use some birth control, and just practice.
; )
shoogarp- does your fiancee know about your plans? Jest kinning…
astralplame @ 73
Did you see that ad for feminine deodorant spray - “We take the P.U. out of pussy”?
Urban Pirate @ 66
I can tell y’all horror stories about the way some of these places work. Like, at John Hagee’s HorrorStone–Er, Cornerstone, if two young adults (hetero, of course) want to date, they have to fill out an application and have it approved. If it’s approved, they get to go out on a “group date” (kinky!) with five other couples, plus at least one chaperone. The guys meet at the church, load into a van, then they get all the wimmenfolk. They go out to dinner, maybe to a Xtian-approved event, a coffeeshop afterwards, maybe some Scripture study, some prayin’ together, then all the wimmenfolk are returned home by 10-11 p.m. The guys get taken back to the church.
If you want to get married, you have to apply for that, too, and have it approved. The guy I know that attends hasn’t reached that stage yet, so I don’t know what happens if somebody disobeys any of this, or if, after getting married, they must have “reproductive” approval, too. Or if they’re forbidden from using any kind of birth control. I’d imagine it’s a pretty safe bet that abortion is O-U-T.
What I want to know is: How is this different from the Moonies? Hell, I was raised in the Baptist church–Deep-fried Southern Baptist, and I never heard of anything like this!
Urban Pirate #73,
Out here where I am in the Midwest, gas has fallen $.54 a gallon in the last two weeks.
op99- Napoleon would not have approved!
If it’s approved, they get to go out on a “group date” (kinky!) with five other couples, plus at least one chaperone. The guys meet at the church, load into a van, then they get all the wimmenfolk. They go out to dinner, maybe to a Xtian-approved event, a coffeeshop afterwards, maybe some Scripture study, some prayin’ together, then all the wimmenfolk are returned home by 10-11 p.m. The guys get taken back to the church.
That is sooo fuckin’ hot, I’m getting turned on just reading about it.
Eli:
Honey, I couldn’t believe this when I heard it. It sounded like the perfect recipe for some serious kink to me, too.
You and I have such dirty minds… ;)
OK Mommybrain - you were asked after in particular in the rounds of emails. I will say hi to redshift for you, and have a chocolate shake on your behalf. Maybe two!
My email is my screen name at gmail dot com if you would be interested in another FDL meet-up sometime.
op99 - sweet! brand marketing is definitely more fun now that we are all decadent and stuff.
Eli @ 98
if this van’s swayin’
it’s cuz we’re prayin’
Eli @ 99
I think that’s code, Eli.
It IS the Moonies. They own the Washington Times, and they bankroll the GOP. Does anyone really think they aren’t getting some proverbial “bang for their buck”?!
punaise @ 100
You’re a treasure, poo-nums.
op99 @ 67
hey, I love uteruses, I used to be in one
Quick! Somebody tell the Pentagon. We have found out where the Taliban are hiding.
Hey, we used to have the expression down here that the family that bathed together stayed together. Or, when we were in polite company, the family that prays together stays together. But my brother got it mixed up once and said that the family that prays together bathes together. I got a lotta weird stares when I started laughing maniacally at his mix-up.
astralplame, I like coffee shakes better’n chocolate. I’ll email soon.
op99 @ 78
Most histories that I’ve read pin it on a lack of men on what was a remote frontier. They also were trying to boost their population figures for statehood.
poo-nums? hmmmm…. :~)
holy rollers…..
Oklahoma kiddo @
61
Hey, kiddo, I think it was Gloria Steinem who said, “If men had babies, abortion would be a sacrament.” LOL
if this van’s rockin’
it’s cuz we’re flockin’
op99,
This reminds me of one of my favorite poems.
To Daffodils
by Robert Herrick
Fair Daffodils, we weep to see
You haste away so soon;
As yet the early-rising sun
Has not attain’d his noon.
Stay, stay,
Until the hasting day
Has run
But to the even-song;
And, having pray’d together, we
Will go with you along.
We have short time to stay, as you,
We have as short a spring;
As quick a growth to meet decay,
As you, or anything.
We die
As your hours do, and dry
Away,
Like to the summer’s rain;
Or as the pearls of morning’s dew,
Ne’er to be found again.
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