Comments on: Who Will Be First to Call for Joe’s Official Expulsion? http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:29:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Ruaidh http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264995 Ruaidh Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:03:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264995 <p><a href="#comment-262650"><em>John Casper @<br /> 131 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Pach, imm, the quote below is from a Susan Haight <a href="http://www.newsday.com/news/local/wire/connecticut/ny-bc-ct--connecticutsenate0825aug25,0,1774222.story?coll=ny-region-apconnecticut">AP</a> article.<br /> <em>“….*SNIP*<br /> <b>The law allows for expulsion from a party if the party member runs for office as part of another political party.</b><br /> *SNIP*<br /> “The Democratic Party is founded upon principles of inclusion and diversity of opinion and the promotion of debate,” Democratic registrar Sharon Ferrucci said. “I do not intend to summon anyone enrolled in my party to defend the good faith and bona fide nature of their affiliation with the Democratic Party.”</em> Bold is mine.</p> <p>If the Democratic party either at the local or National level decides to formally acknowledge that Joe has left the Democratic party, they have to be very careful. Joe will try to portray himself as the victim.</p></blockquote> <p>That last paragraph sums up why the Dems are unlikely to expel Lieberman. More likely that Lieberman will undergo a political conversion on the election equivalent of the Road to Damascus.</p> John Casper @
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Pach, imm, the quote below is from a Susan Haight AP article.
“….*SNIP*
The law allows for expulsion from a party if the party member runs for office as part of another political party.
*SNIP*
“The Democratic Party is founded upon principles of inclusion and diversity of opinion and the promotion of debate,” Democratic registrar Sharon Ferrucci said. “I do not intend to summon anyone enrolled in my party to defend the good faith and bona fide nature of their affiliation with the Democratic Party.” Bold is mine.

If the Democratic party either at the local or National level decides to formally acknowledge that Joe has left the Democratic party, they have to be very careful. Joe will try to portray himself as the victim.

That last paragraph sums up why the Dems are unlikely to expel Lieberman. More likely that Lieberman will undergo a political conversion on the election equivalent of the Road to Damascus.

]]> By: The Man Of The Crowd http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264877 The Man Of The Crowd Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:21:33 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264877 <p>According to CT law, Joe left the party <i>automatically</i> when he chose to run for office as a member of a new party. Sharon Ferrucci, the registrar of voters, has taken it upon herself to leave him on the rolls against all law and president. Another case of election tampering, this time by a Lieberman Democrat. See <a href="http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2006/8/27/22610/9411">my diary at DailyKos</a> for more.</p> According to CT law, Joe left the party automatically when he chose to run for office as a member of a new party. Sharon Ferrucci, the registrar of voters, has taken it upon herself to leave him on the rolls against all law and president. Another case of election tampering, this time by a Lieberman Democrat. See my diary at DailyKos for more.

]]> By: ccmask http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264803 ccmask Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:22:09 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264803 <p>In 2000, the presence of a third party candidate, Ralph Nader, no doubt played a role in the defeat of Vice President Gore and Joe Lieberman. Now Joe Lieberman is risking our party’s claim on his Senate seat by running as a third party candidate himself. Recent news reports detail the GOP’s interest in supporting just such an effort. It’s time to draw a line. </p> <p>I committed myself to supporting the Democratic nominee for the US Senate in Connecticut and I ask you to do likewise. Because too much is at stake with our troubles abroad and at home, we cannot play games this Election Day. That’s why I call on all loyal Democrats to join me in urging Senator Lieberman to drop his bid for the Senate as an Independent and endorse the duly nominated Democrat.–Wes Clark</p> In 2000, the presence of a third party candidate, Ralph Nader, no doubt played a role in the defeat of Vice President Gore and Joe Lieberman. Now Joe Lieberman is risking our party’s claim on his Senate seat by running as a third party candidate himself. Recent news reports detail the GOP’s interest in supporting just such an effort. It’s time to draw a line.

I committed myself to supporting the Democratic nominee for the US Senate in Connecticut and I ask you to do likewise. Because too much is at stake with our troubles abroad and at home, we cannot play games this Election Day. That’s why I call on all loyal Democrats to join me in urging Senator Lieberman to drop his bid for the Senate as an Independent and endorse the duly nominated Democrat.–Wes Clark

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]]> By: MB4 http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264379 MB4 Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:13:43 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264379 <p>Any of these major Democratic leaders who do not act to expel Lieberman should be expelled themselves.</p> <p>If they do not have the courage to act, we don’t need them.</p> Any of these major Democratic leaders who do not act to expel Lieberman should be expelled themselves.

If they do not have the courage to act, we don’t need them.

]]> By: Right Voices » » Why Should Joe Back Other Candidates? http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264097 Right Voices » » Why Should Joe Back Other Candidates? Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:22:25 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-264097 <p>[…] Pachacutec / Firedoglake: Who Will Be First to Call for Joe’s Official Expulsion? Mark Pazniokas / Hartford Courant: Joe Down Low On Ballot Judd / Think Progress: Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Steve Soto / The Left Coaster: Afternoon Quick Hits - Another Shot At Hillary From A 90’s Mudslinger Chris Bowers / MyDD: CT-Sen: Lieberman refuses to back Democratic candidates Ron Beasley / Middle Earth Journal: If this isn’t enough…… Tparty / LamontBlog: Lieberman To Campaign With Rob Simmons (R) Today spazeboy: Lamont Acts Blue, Lieberman Acts Republican […]</p> […] Pachacutec / Firedoglake: Who Will Be First to Call for Joe’s Official Expulsion? Mark Pazniokas / Hartford Courant: Joe Down Low On Ballot Judd / Think Progress: Rep. Shays (R-CT): To Succeed In Iraq, We Need A Timetable For Withdrawal Steve Soto / The Left Coaster: Afternoon Quick Hits – Another Shot At Hillary From A 90’s Mudslinger Chris Bowers / MyDD: CT-Sen: Lieberman refuses to back Democratic candidates Ron Beasley / Middle Earth Journal: If this isn’t enough…… Tparty / LamontBlog: Lieberman To Campaign With Rob Simmons (R) Today spazeboy: Lamont Acts Blue, Lieberman Acts Republican […]

]]> By: Right Wing Nation » Blog Archive » He Won’t Endorse Me! Whaaaa! http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263873 Right Wing Nation » Blog Archive » He Won’t Endorse Me! Whaaaa! Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:17:08 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263873 <p>[…] However, for some reason, Firedoglake, MyDD, and even the normally reasonable Middle Earth Journal all claim shock and anger over this development. The same voices who called for Lieberman’s expulsion from the party earlier in the week and have worked to defeat him despite a solidly Democratic voting record now fume because the man they spent the summer reviling won’t endorse their other candidates. None of them answer the obvious question: if you detest the man so much, why would you want his endorsement? […]</p> […] However, for some reason, Firedoglake, MyDD, and even the normally reasonable Middle Earth Journal all claim shock and anger over this development. The same voices who called for Lieberman’s expulsion from the party earlier in the week and have worked to defeat him despite a solidly Democratic voting record now fume because the man they spent the summer reviling won’t endorse their other candidates. None of them answer the obvious question: if you detest the man so much, why would you want his endorsement? […]

]]> By: goodasgold http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263721 goodasgold Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:21:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263721 <p>I’m disappointed that Dean didn’t do so on Hardball this past week. Instead he said that if Joe wins, he will be welcomed….the Dems have a big umbrella. </p> <p>I view Dean as a person unafraid of saying what needs to be said, which makes this even more troubling. </p> <p>At dKos, I was slapped down by a few and ignored by most when I expressed my views. After all, Dean is a hero, who can do no wrong. Others attempted to explain where I went wrong in my assertions (as I requested), but I still have a difficult time understanding why Dean (of all people) would undermine the will of the voters. Hell, isn’t that what elections are all about?</p> <p>At least, Dean should have deferred answering the question posed by Matthews. We can expect Matthews to use Dean’s words again and again as this election moves forward. What a bite on the ass.</p> I’m disappointed that Dean didn’t do so on Hardball this past week. Instead he said that if Joe wins, he will be welcomed….the Dems have a big umbrella.

I view Dean as a person unafraid of saying what needs to be said, which makes this even more troubling.

At dKos, I was slapped down by a few and ignored by most when I expressed my views. After all, Dean is a hero, who can do no wrong. Others attempted to explain where I went wrong in my assertions (as I requested), but I still have a difficult time understanding why Dean (of all people) would undermine the will of the voters. Hell, isn’t that what elections are all about?

At least, Dean should have deferred answering the question posed by Matthews. We can expect Matthews to use Dean’s words again and again as this election moves forward. What a bite on the ass.

]]> By: David Ehrenstein http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263582 David Ehrenstein Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:16:00 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263582 <p><b>WHO WILL BE OUR SUMNER REDSTONE?</b></p> <p>CAUSE JOE LIEBERMAN IS THE TOM CRUISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY</p> WHO WILL BE OUR SUMNER REDSTONE?

CAUSE JOE LIEBERMAN IS THE TOM CRUISE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

]]> By: Erik http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263548 Erik Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:54:22 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/25/who-will-be-first-to-call-for-joes-official-expulsion/#comment-263548 <p>Someone really stupid?</p> <p>I mean, look, it’s not like we <b>actually</b> want to be a minority party, right? What possible good does kicking him out of the caucus acheive?</p> Someone really stupid?

I mean, look, it’s not like we actually want to be a minority party, right? What possible good does kicking him out of the caucus acheive?

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