FITZ for good luck

so the DCCC is doing a little “walking on a razor’s edge” to drive turnout? riiiight…

time to saddle up the troops and let them know that CT is Ned or bust

NED for good government!

So why is it exactly that the DSCC thinks that J-Lie is going to caucus with the dems IF he gets elected?

Because he’s shown such loyalty to the dems in the past?

I don’t get it.

Why not – his winning could result in a cabinet appointment (thanks Karl for the heads up phone call) and thereafter Rell appointing a republican senator from CT, among the bluest of blue states.

What a way for the pubs to rub the dems’ noses in it. The dems need to slam him down hard.

Swan!
What? Short Low Ride is campaigning with Repubicans? Yeah, Jane. You did call that coattail. What a freakin’ idiot – Benedict Lieberman.
Rahm also said that since Whiney’s poll numbers have been going up, he thought if the election would have taken place just a couple of days later, Joe would have won. Honestly, I think the desperation is getting to them.

No one would have guessed that Been-a-dick Lieberman would don his Bush/Coulter Republican elephant suit so soon?

Surpirse, surprise, surprise.

OT.

More on Iran. The Jeruslam Post is running an “Israel may have to go it alone” against Iran story.

You will notice the “It is 1938 and the Iranians are Nazi’s” theme.

War, war, war, war all the time. It is the permanant war for permanant peace.

Jerusalem Post

-GSD

Any Dem who has not come out swinging against Joe at this point is a turncoat. He should be removed from the Democratic arty all together at this point and he should step down/be removed from Democratic appointed committees.

No mercy.

meta @
6

Swan!
What? Short Low Ride is campaigning with Repubicans? Yeah, Jane. You did call that coattail. What a freakin’ idiot – Benedict Lieberman.
Rahm also said that since Whiney’s poll numbers have been going up, he thought if the election would have taken place just a couple of days later, Joe would have won. Honestly, I think the desperation is getting to them.

Meta — where was that?

Hmmm, perchance they’re finally cottoning onto RevDeb’s and windje’s points … or at least “Joseph & boss” are? Good plan on their parts. At last.

Damn those low-level staffers…

Professor Foland @ 9

No mercy.

I’ll second that!

Sooo, if the original e-mail was not official policy, and the second e-mail was to apologize for sending the first, where is the e-mail where the DCCC responds in accordance with their official policy? Or are they still trying to figure out what that policy is?

Why do I think they will figure it out on November 8th?

Is it possible that Reid will see that Joe should have his chairmanships taken away now?

Fer cryin’ out loud, what’s it take to get a stake driven through Lieberman’s black flabby heart, anyway?

Ah, American slang in unexpected places (see GSD’s linky):

… One senior source said on Tuesday that Iran “flipped the world the bird” by not responding positively to the Western incentive plan to stop uranium enrichment. …

Jane, he was on Charlie Rose a couple of nights ago, so no link.

RevDeb @ 4

So why is it exactly that the DSCC thinks that J-Lie is going to caucus with the dems IF he gets elected?

Because he’s shown such loyalty to the dems in the past?

I don’t get it.

They are either in serious denial or they just don’t give a damn. I don’t know which one is worse.

Howard Dean on Hardball:

I will not be supporting Joe Loserman (my word)in his Re-election campaign. Ned Lamont has my support.
Ned was the candidate selected in the primary because he has a great grasp on the issues. Joe, well Joe is out of touch with Connecticut and America.

On the flip side, Dean did say that Joe would be welcomed back into the Dem Party if he wins.

OK, now my head is exploding…..If Joe wins, it is very likely that a Dem Majority in one or both of the Houses would not be achieved. The Repugs in CT will be riding Joes coattails and the Repugs would retain control.

When will the Dem leadership cast this albatross off their ship?

JOE – IT is TIME FOR HIM TO GO

Jane, maybe it’s because I haven’t had my coffee this morning (which I’ll fix forthwith), but I don’t see a web link in your article for the fact that Lieberman is campaigning with 2 Republican candidates at Groton today.

Where did I miss it?

As mad and frustrated as I am about all this, the good thing is we can see who the cowards are, and who needs to purged.

prof 18 — there is no link. We’re reporting that.

meta 16 — thanks.

Jane, based on what? Conversation? Inside information? Source? Unnamed source? 2 sources?

Is “campaigning” your interpretation or snark?

Just wanting to be sure that such a potential bombshell is not a dud.

Shameless behavior. Like his actions in the August primary, this event is served up to Team Lamont on a tee. I hope they hit it hard.

Prof — it’s solid, and based on on-the-ground information. We don’t report rumors without clearly labelling them as such. That has always been our policy.

This election can be won by democrats if the entire democratic party can stand united behind lamont.
First thing they need to do is to expel Lieberman from Democratic party, take away his caucus membership and loudly attack him for his betrayal. Make him an outcast and not some “nice man” that they keep proclaiming him. Lieberman is not a nice person and needs the same kind of treatment. Lieberman’s recent statement that a win by Lamont will be a win for terrorists should have been challenged and he should have been made to apologise for this outrage. This issue should have been hammered every single hour.
Unfortunately This election will be lost by democrats because of their cowardice instead of issues.

Of course, there is this from last Monday:

Lieberman’s continued viability as a candidate was underscored Friday with his announcement that he had brought on board two new campaign hands. One of the most sought-after Republican pollsters — Public Opinion Strategies’ Neil Newhouse — has agreed to handle the survey research for Lieberman’s general election campaign. Newhouse also polls for Connecticut Gov. M. Jodi Rell, a Republican, and Rep. Rob Simmons, R-Conn., but has never worked for a Democratic candidate. Lieberman’s media campaign will be overseen by Josh Isay, who advised New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a Republican, in 2005.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..KM6HG1.DTL

Schumer and Reid should burn their bridges, on principle. They should announce something like, “Joe Lieberman is betraying the Democratic Party and has been for several years. In the current campaign, hardly a day has passed when he has not found a new way to make common cause with Republicans. The Republicans are treating him as their candidate. So must we. Senator Lieberman has amply demonstrated that he no longer wishes to be a member of the Democratic Party. We respect his decision, with regret, and are taking action to accommodate him. His seats on Senate committees will soon be occupied by loyal Democrats. We are throwing the full weight of the party, including the support of every single Democratic Senator, behind the campaign of Ned Lamont. More important, in the unlikely event that Mr. Lieberman wins in November, he will not be invited to caucus with the Democratic Party. He’s made his decision. We cannot trust his word and no longer intend to try.”

joe and company are also coming to Millstone Nuclear Power plant (where i work) today. i am convinced he has a deal with the repubs. either caucus with them or take SEC/DEF so Jodi Rell (repub) can replace joe with a thug. i will try to say hello but this is one highly scripted visit. i suspect my ned lamont sticker at my office will keep them away from me…

OT but it looks like that dutch “terrorism” scare is going to be a case of a US pilot piddling his pants over a bunch of brown skinned holidayers daring to speak their native tongue to one another.

What does the General call it “The Dark Stain of Courage?”

Of course, after your revelation, Holy Joe might just miss the train like Biden?

Or no chance of that?

Speaking of Joe: I thought this was worth bringing upstairs from the late night thread. CT-Sen: Tech vendors turn down Lieberman,

Milliner’, (this is gonna sound rill doofus, but) somewhere in my catch-up reading over the past few days, something you said really affected me and I gave you a shout-out nobody could hear. Now, of course, I can’t recall whether it was over your insight or funniness or something-it-turns-out-we-have-in-common-and-I’d-like-to-ask-you-about or just what.

Anyhow, whatever the hell it was — SALUD!

BTW the foliage sucks this time of year in CT.
I can’t wait till all of those long term Sens retire.

Golly gee, why won’t Schumer do the right thing?

hey Prof here is a link.
http://connecticutblog.blogspot.com/

I live in Thomaston CT and our GOP town committee just endorsed Lieberman. Read it in the Waterbury paper.

I think the people in CT should have statewide Halloween contests mocking the little monster named Joe.

51 votes. If a Lieberman win assures them 51 seats Schumer, Reid, Clinton and Obama would all blow the S.O.B. on alternating days for a month after the election. Don’t believe any crap about Joe getting put on some sort of shit list or being booted from the party. 51 votes. That’s ALL that matters. Today’s Dems are a cesspool of cowardly invertebrates. LBJ would’ve taken Lieberman aside and informed him defying the party meant he was soon to be the most miserable bastard roaming the halls of Congress. He’d have to swim a stream of shit just to get to his desk. No chance for that type of enforcement with this crew.

LindyH, that Gilliard report is HI-larious! Gawd, those poor mopes.

Alice Marshall @ 34

Golly gee, why won’t Schumer do the right thing?

Because he and joe are members of the Isreal first wing of the only politcal party in this country that matters, “The War Party.”

Prof, just fyi, because you may have missed it.
Back when Jason Leopold kept lying claiming he had five sources that Fitz had indicted Rove, FDL was deluged. Every other newbie commenter wanted to know why Jane and Christy would not publish what Leopold had already published inFakeOut TruthOut. Everyone was saying that Rove would get indicted, but no one would go as far as Leopold and say they had anonymous sources. Even MSNBC’s David Shuster said he thought Fitz would indict Rove.
Jane and Christy never budged. As the epicenter of Plame news along with some other blogs, that took some serious guts.

I think people should start turning up at Lieberman events in redcoats for Turncoat Joe. Having spent time in New England during college, I’m fairly sure that everyone would get that symbolism right up front. As if the Bush smooch weren’t enough…blergh.

lotus @ 30

Milliner’, (this is gonna sound rill doofus, but) somewhere in my catch-up reading over the past few days, something you said really affected me and I gave you a shout-out nobody could hear. Now, of course, I can’t recall whether it was over your insight or funniness or something-it-turns-out-we-have-in-common-and-I’d-like-to-ask-you-about or just what.

Anyhow, whatever the hell it was — SALUD!

Thanks lotus! I’ve been a little busy the past couple days so I haven’t keep on top of the comments. I’ll see if I can catch up since I remember what threads I briefly have visted.

Stuart at 29. What. You. Said.

Exactly.

Lieberman needs to RETIRE – he will really screw things up if runs as an I we can’t afford to lose this seat to a rep

Christy Hardin Smith @ 39

I think people should start turning up at Lieberman events in redcoats for Turncoat Joe. Having spent time in New England during college, I’m fairly sure that everyone would get that symbolism right up front. As if the Bush smooch weren’t enough…blergh.

It’s worth a trip back to just to do this.

cfeddy, how will Waterbury cotton to that, d’ya think?

I think the people in CT should have statewide Halloween contests mocking the little monster named Joe.

And start ‘em a week before Halloween!

(M, ’twas prolly something like this that I was hallooing ‘n’ hohoing over before)

On the subject of errant e-mails, check out this story in the weekly Nashville Scene. Governor Bredesen, the Democrat running for re-election, returned from a vacation in the West and was hospitalized with some kind of illness. An official in the state Republican party composed an e-mail speculating (with an exclamation point) that it could be something as serious as Lyme Disease. This would incapacitate Bredesen during the Fall campaign, presumably helping the weak Republican candidate opposing Bredesen.

To top it off, the Republican mistakenly sent the e-mail to Bredesen’s press secretary. Now that would call for an exclamation point.

When the e-mail became public, and who could have imagined that happening with the governor’s press secretary being the recipient, the Republican claimed that he was only voicing his concern about the governor’s health.

pete @ 37

hey Prof here is a link.
http://connecticutblog.blogspot.com/

Thanks, pete.

Devastating.

During an election year, to appear with a candidate is to endorse him or her.

Period.

In other news,

Plan B Approval Said to Be Near

Adults Could Buy ‘Morning-After Pill’ Over the Counter

from WaPo.

I’ve been on vacation. How does Lamont stand against Lieberman in the most recent poll?

lotus @ 44

cfeddy, how will Waterbury cotton to that, d’ya think?

I think the people in CT should have statewide Halloween contests mocking the little monster named Joe.

And start ‘em a week before Halloween!

(M, ’twas prolly something like this that I was hallooing ‘n’ hohoing over before)

And have a giant Halloween party on the Green in New Haven with the winner being crowned. And being escorted by a troup of redcoats.

Redd at 39 –

Oh, I like that one.

Holloween for CT.

All day. Every day.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 39

I think people should start turning up at Lieberman events in redcoats for Turncoat Joe. Having spent time in New England during college, I’m fairly sure that everyone would get that symbolism right up front. As if the Bush smooch weren’t enough…blergh.

I put all of my red clothing away after the 2004 election. I can’t bear to wear it—except for my new “Canada is looking better every day” red and white t-shirt.

Been buying a lot of blue the past 2 years.

OfT, klyde, fyi Jewish Voice for Peace
“Opposed to Bombing Civilians? Sign Jewish Call to Action Petition”

John Casper @ 42

Prof, just fyi, because you may have missed it.
Back when Jason Leopold kept lying claiming he had five sources that Fitz had indicted Rove, FDL was deluged. Every other newbie commenter wanted to know why Jane and Christy would not publish what Leopold had already published . . .
Jane and Christy never budged. As the epicenter of Plame news along with some other blogs, that took some serious guts.

Yes, and that’s precisely why I asked.

As someone once said, “Trust your mother but cut the cards.”

I am pleased to see more confirmation of Jane’s breaking news here:

Lieberman (CFL) to campaign with Rob Simmons (R) today

J.Donne at 47 — the last Rasmussen poll had Lamont within the margin of error — closing a double digit gap to a 2-3 point one. I’ll see if I can dig up a link…

bg @ 54

Holloween for CT.

All day. Every day.

Hollow-weenie

RevDeb at 51 — I have to say, I’m awfully glad the Dem color is blue. With my hair, red has never been a particularly good choice. *g*

J. Donne @ 47

I’ve been on vacation. How does Lamont stand against Lieberman in the most recent poll?

Lamont trending up. J-Lie trending down. Two new polls now show them within 2 or 3 points, both within the margin of error.

J.Donne, the most recent I’ve seen was a Reuters report (linked somewhere mid- to late-last night’s Late Nite thread, I think) that has them essentially tied (Joe only 2 pts ahead now) in Rasmussen and another poll. This was fresh news yesterday.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 55

RevDeb at 51 — I have to say, I’m awfully glad the Dem color is blue. With my hair, red has never been a particularly good choice. *g*

I hear you. But with mine going silver, red did look great. Oh well, I just got a cobalt blue polar-tec jacket from LandsEnd to replace the red one I can’t wear. Cobalt works.

Christy Hardin Smith @ 43

I think people should start turning up at Lieberman events in redcoats for Turncoat Joe. Having spent time in New England during college, I’m fairly sure that everyone would get that symbolism right up front. As if the Bush smooch weren’t enough…blergh.

Or for those with no red coats in the closet (i.e., Yankees fans who would have nothing to do with the color red on their coats, sox or other articles of clothing), simply turn your coat inside out . . .

And when you do, smile for the cameras – they’ll love it!

tnh post about CT polls with links.
CT Senate Race Tightens? Nah, It’s Just Getting Started
by DemFromCT
From CNN:
(CNN) — A new poll by the American Research Group indicated a statistical dead heat in the U.S. Senate race in Connecticut between upstart Democratic nominee Ned Lamont and incumbent Sen. Joseph Lieberman….”

Oh, and RevDeb — glad to see you back from your travels. :) Can’t remember if I thanked you for the pix from Quebec City, but they were much appreciated. We have got to take a trip up there at some point — my hubby has never been, and it’s just too gorgeous a city to miss it.

And have a giant Halloween party on the Green in New Haven with the winner being crowned.

Yay-ezz, and wi’ plenny cider & donuts! WAAAAAAAHHHHHH, I wanna go!

Peterr at 59 — hehehehehe Good idea! :)

I miss my red plaid flannel sport coat.

I used to wear it with my leopardskin pillbox hat.

lotus @
53

Redd at 39 –

Oh, I like that one.

You could call them, “GO AS JOE!”
parties

Pach at 64 — why am I having visions of Nathan Lane in The Birdcage? *g*

Christy,
I’m back to making crepes again. Hadn’t for a while. I’ll have to send you pics of a dream chocolate dessert from a Belgian place down by the waterfront. To. Die. For.

Note LindyH’s comment about the tech vendors’ dissing Joe.

Even money on one of a small number of tech vendors to step forward shortly.

Like one that handles VFF’s website.

The question out there is if ths people power thing continues and the power boys in DC are screaming into their own echo chamber.. can the dem party be reborn as a responsive and progressive one which listens to and speaks for the people?

Since retail politics is a pretty pricey biz unless the grass.netroots can continue to win against the deep pockets and the media insiders not much will change.

We are met on the battlefield of that great war for the character of the party. To win that battle the people really need to do more than post and work some shoe leather and get the message to the people and the people to the polls.

The Ned thing seems to be a vision of the future where the people get to decide who represents them. This is obviously not playing too well with the beltway blowhards. But one vistory in the battle is nothing to retire on. The primary win was a wake up call.

In NYS we have HillaryBot refusing to debate Tom Tasni… This is com pletely unacceptable. This is not democracy and this is not giving the people the chance to make their own choices.

We need to get money out of politics… Public financed and cost limited campaigns. Until this happens it will be an uphill fight unless progressive deep pockets candidate are willing to largely self fund these expensive campaigns.

We have already seen evidence that the net IS a very cost effective means of consciousness raising and can be the way to reach the people with the truth.

Imagine if the truth ruled the day? What would a reality based world look like…? You have to admit we are living in one largely of “manufactured” consent, mis and dis information.

The Lierberman thing is emblamatic of the entire problem in politics today… lies, power, money, influence peddling… ICK

Pachacutec @ 68

I miss my red plaid flannel sport coat.

I used to wear it with my leopardskin pillbox hat.

We want pics!

Of course, if you don’t have any, I’m sure darkblack could scare one up for us!

Pachacutec @ 64

I miss my red plaid flannel sport coat.

I used to wear it with my leopardskin pillbox hat.

Now there’s fetching.

Like the tech vendors who won’t work for Joe because they only work for Democrats, he’s likely having to use GOP pollsters for the same reason.

As for campaigning with Republicans, he’s obviously glomming onto Rell’s cross-party popularity and trying to be wherever he thinks the most media coverage will be. The question is whether it helps him or hurts him with the voters to be constantly at the side of Republicans. Where it should hurt him is with the Democratic leadership, but I don’t see that happening. Leaving the Senate race aside, the leadership should be having a hissy fit over the damage Joe is doing to the chances of CT taking three very viable House seats.

I think the attack – if the leadership can actually get it together before the election – should focus on Joe putting self ahead of party, his own misguided sense of ownership of the Senate seat ahead of working for a Democratic majority in both houses of Congress.

With respect to Dean’s comments last night on Hardball, I wasn’t thrilled about his “sure, we’d welcome him into the Democratic caucus” comment, but the rest of what he said was spot on. Some memorable sound bites: “Ned Lamont IS a Democrat.” “Ned Lamont is the future. Joe is a good guy, but he’s the past.”

Dean also really stuck it to George Allen. Said he’d worked with Allen when they were both governors, and in his opinion, Allen should not be in public service. Why? He shoots from the hip and caters to the worst instincts in people.

Oh, I also read in the Courant that Lieberman will be listed down several if not five positions down on the ballot. He may be hard to find.

LindyH @
33

Speaking of Joe: I thought this was worth bringing upstairs from the late night thread. CT-Sen: Tech vendors turn down Lieberman,

Clueless!
Helpless!
Hopeless!
Priceless!

cfeddy @ 72

Oh, I also read in the Courant that Lieberman will be listed down several if not five positions down on the ballot. He may be hard to find.

His stench will always give ‘em away.

http://americanresearchgroup.com/ctsenate/

42-40

Is ARG any good?

cfeddy @ 75

Oh, I also read in the Courant that Lieberman will be listed down several if not five positions down on the ballot. He may be hard to find.

Hopefully on a butterfly ballot, with his name next to Pat Buchannan’s.

Thread Theorist @
49

On the subject of errant e-mails, check out this story in the weekly Nashville Scene. Governor Bredesen, the Democrat running for re-election, returned from a vacation in the West and was hospitalized with some kind of illness. An official in the state Republican party composed an e-mail speculating (with an exclamation point) that it could be something as serious as Lyme Disease. This would incapacitate Bredesen during the Fall campaign, presumably helping the weak Republican candidate opposing Bredesen.

To top it off, the Republican mistakenly sent the e-mail to Bredesen’s press secretary. Now that would call for an exclamation point.

When the e-mail became public, and who could have imagined that happening with the governor’s press secretary being the recipient, the Republican claimed that he was only voicing his concern about the governor’s health.

So, is it the Cheney Junta’s strategy to use poison to knock off intransigent democrats instead of the time tested “small plane crash”?

-GSD

RevDeb, you just please hesh about crepes and dream chocolate desserts from Belgian places down by waterfronts. Torturing us innocent bystanding lambs ain’t Christian, y’know.

Prof. ARG is a NH based pollster and I believe they are non-partisan and reliable.

-GSD

Stuart Eugene Thiel @
29

Schumer and Reid should burn their bridges, on principle. They should announce something like, “Joe Lieberman is betraying the Democratic Party and has been for several years. In the current campaign, hardly a day has passed when he has not found a new way to make common cause with Republicans. The Republicans are treating him as their candidate. So must we. Senator Lieberman has amply demonstrated that he no longer wishes to be a member of the Democratic Party. We respect his decision, with regret, and are taking action to accommodate him. His seats on Senate committees will soon be occupied by loyal Democrats. We are throwing the full weight of the party, including the support of every single Democratic Senator, behind the campaign of Ned Lamont. More important, in the unlikely event that Mr. Lieberman wins in November, he will not be invited to caucus with the Democratic Party. He’s made his decision. We cannot trust his word and no longer intend to try.”

They may well burn their bridges. But this won’t happen before Labor Day. We need to keep the pressure on. I really don’t think that Holy Joe is gonna trend well, and that will make it easier for them. But they won’t do it now.

re DCCC

I wonder whether Joseph from the Online department cleared his response to ems with his boss Jesse Lee? Seems to me that Jesse’s inbox might get pretty full today . . .

Stuart Eugene Thiel @ 29

Schumer and Reid should burn their bridges, on principle.

Agreed–on principle, a good politician will wait until the last minute to take a stand, but no longer. It’s awfully late…

But even more than on principle, on practicality. A 51-49 Senate with Joe’s vote will (a) cost the caucus an arm and a leg and (b) last for only a few weeks until Rumsfeld resigns “to spend time with his family” (I can’t help but giggle typing that) and Hadassah suddenly gets offers to join corporate boards…

(PS Glad to see you here! Speak of the devil, and he appears…)

Good morning!

Howie just wrote and asked for a “Lieberman” version of “Had Enough,” at the Lamont campaign’s request.

Somehow, responding with “my pleasure” doesn’t come close to conveying my actual feelings.

OT – Stop the presses!!!

From CNN: Leading astronomers say Pluto is no longer defined as a planet, The Associated Press reports.

Now we have to change the way we remember the planets.

My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Us Nine…

Just doesn’t work

Back to regular programming.

:-)

Prof.

ARG Link.

-GSD

Dr. Bong,

Has the status of Uranus changed?

-GSD

I guess this means Joe’s “impromptu” diner stops were not working out. I smell desperation.
The biggest surprise is really not that this is happening but that Joe is going to this so early in the Campaign. Not even waiting for Labor Day. You would think some ambiguity would be an important part of a staged campaign as an Independent. But I guess the CFL party is desperate enough to reveal now its candidate cavorting with the Repubs and with pundits like Glenn Beck. I suspect that this particular step was decided on about two days ago. I smell disorganization.

And here is why Plan B is being approved over-the-counter:

An approval would also open the way for von Eschenbach to be confirmed as permanent FDA commissioner. Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Patty Murray (D-Wash.) put a hold on the nomination last year because of what they said was the agency’s refusal to make a decision about the drug. They accused the administration of politicizing science regarding Plan B by not accepting the recommendations of an expert advisory panel and the FDA’s own scientific staff.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..00002.html

Sorry Lotus,
But I’m back to reality now. We all need a little vacation from it once in a while—except that I hear the RNC is all over our leader Kos for taking a vacation and making a living, oh my! I guess it’s only repugs that are supposed to take vacations and make a living.

Christy,
Pictures coming your way. If you want scenery I’ve got a couple of good ones too, but . . .

I hope that the Lamont campaign or somebody (Spazeboy?) is videotaping Loserman constantly, in case he still has the temerity to describe himself as a Democrat, or an Independent. He’s neither, and action should be taken against him for continuing to mislead.

GSD @ 86

Dr. Bong,

Has the status of Uranus changed?

-GSD

Nope… Still seaching for Klingons, too.

:-)

Jane & Christy & Prof.–

I was looking for this info. in the MSM as well–b/c it is a bombshell and if Dems don’t deonounce him over this, well, I give up.

My question for you is has someone told the Wash. Post, the NYT, the Hartford Courant about this rumor?

Peterr @ 63

Christy Hardin Smith @ 43

I think people should start turning up at Lieberman events in redcoats for Turncoat Joe. Having spent time in New England during college, I’m fairly sure that everyone would get that symbolism right up front. As if the Bush smooch weren’t enough…blergh.

Or for those with no red coats in the closet (i.e., Yankees fans who would have nothing to do with the color red on their coats, sox or other articles of clothing), simply turn your coat inside out . . .

And when you do, smile for the cameras – they’ll love it!

Ahhh. Even the mere idea of coats is appealing right now in Central Florida. I really miss New England at this time of year. And, go Lamont!

tommy yum @ 87

Good morning!

Howie just wrote and asked for a “Lieberman” version of “Had Enough,” at the Lamont campaign’s request.

Somehow, responding with “my pleasure” doesn’t come close to conveying my actual feelings.

That is great Tommy!

GSD, yeah, I knew about the NH part.

Quinnipiac still has it at 51-40, as I recall.

I’m encouraged by ARG and Rasmussen, but always want to have a reason for believing (or not).

Anyone subscribed to Zogby?

The next round of polling will be released August 28th, which will include the first round of polling in Connecticut.

http://www.zogby.com/features/features.dbm?ID=238

I just “SPOTLIGHTED” this post to a bunch of people at the Associate Press.

tommy yum @ 83

Good morning!

Howie just wrote and asked for a “Lieberman” version of “Had Enough,” at the Lamont campaign’s request.

Somehow, responding with “my pleasure” doesn’t come close to conveying my actual feelings.

Excellent!

tommy yum @ 88

Good morning!

Howie just wrote and asked for a “Lieberman” version of “Had Enough,” at the Lamont campaign’s request.

Somehow, responding with “my pleasure” doesn’t come close to conveying my actual feelings.

WOW! Great news, tommy – a double high-five to ya!

Christy Hardin Smith @ 43

I think people should start turning up at Lieberman events in redcoats for Turncoat Joe. Having spent time in New England during college, I’m fairly sure that everyone would get that symbolism right up front. As if the Bush smooch weren’t enough…blergh.

Christy, if anyone needs patterns for the redcoats, I’ve used this one and it doesn’t completely suck. Not as easy to use as Simplicity/McCalls, but pretty darned good. (Note to anyone wanting to make one, the armhole is significantly smaller than we’re used to in modern clothing. It’s tight and it’s supposed to be tight.)

–I love this idea.

(obligatory disclaimer, I’m not associated with the pattern maker or the vendor, I’ve just used the pattern a few times for friends who have a more modern fashion sense than I do. (I’m pretty much stuck in the late 16th century, early 17th))

RH 43–I’ve seen redcoats sold in lots of places around Boston…

On a related note: when did Dems become blue? I swear that in the pre-internets era (meaning, I can’t go by anything but my rickety memory) Dems were red. That was always, I assumed, to subliminally associate them with communists. Were they turned blue post-Cold War to subliminally associate Dems with “blue-blood”? Just curious…

John 100–good idea. I forgot about spotlight!

Go Tommy! This is great news.

DefJef at #73

“The Ned thing seems to be a vision of the future where the people get to decide who represents them.”

IT’S A COMMUNIST PLOT I TELL YOU!!!

Oh. Comminism’s dead.

Well IT’S AN AL QUEDa PLOT!!!

or something.

“Lamont” — isn’t that French?

And he sure looks gay, doesn’t he?

Get L. Brent Bozell on the case, pronto.

Or his pal Joe Klein.

America’s Freedom cannot be put in danger by the American People!

Prof Foland
I think it was the teevee election coverage a few cycles back when all the networks finally agreed on the color codes for their maps and this is how it came out.

Jane S. @
98

Jane & Christy & Prof.–

I was looking for this info. in the MSM as well–b/c it is a bombshell and if Dems don’t deonounce him over this, well, I give up.

My question for you is has someone told the Wash. Post, the NYT, the Hartford Courant about this rumor?

If people don’t want to use “SPOTLIGHT” with the WaPo, you can tell them about in their online political chat coming up at 11 ET.

I went to the DSCC site. It is interesting to note that they care enough about the blogosphere revolution to have expropriated the “Roots” for their “From the Roots” campaign. The DSCC representing the “roots.”

Ha-ha…and here I was thinking irony was dead.

I’m waiting for Dean, Clinton, etc to actively campaign for Lamont. Dean indicated that he planned to but we’ll see. As much as I would like to see joe humiliated by the Dems, I don’t want FOX News to make him a martyr.

Today, Lieberman and Lamont will mark two different anniversaries.

Lieberman will appear with two prominent Republicans, Gov. M. Jodi Rell and U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons, R-2nd, to celebrate last year’s reversal of a Pentagon decision to close the Groton submarine base.

http://www.courant.com/news/po…..ory?page=2

Dr. Bong @
90

OT – Stop the presses!!!

From CNN: Leading astronomers say Pluto is no longer defined as a planet, The Associated Press reports.

Now we have to change the way we remember the planets.

My Very Excellent Mother Just Served Us Nine…

Just doesn’t work

Back to regular programming.

:-)

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..net_mutiny

Should be quite a fist fight down there today—-with Lieberman, Rell and Simmons all saying “I Saved it”, “No, I saved it”!

Denny Hastert wrote a letter to the Commission asking them not to close Groton! Now they all want to say they personally kept it open!

OT

It seems that Mitt-less in MA isn’t going to be able to use his Big Dig photo ops to help him run for pres.

BlueMassGroup has the goods from a Herald article in print today.

[Edited by CHS — no threats of violence, even in jest. Period.]

The Dems in the Senate need TO-fucking-DAY to empty NoMoJo’s office and move his fucking desk into the fucking parking lot…
jeezis
.

In search of confirming news on the Judi Rell or Rob Simmons campaign websites, I discovered that Joe and Judi are made for each other, technologically speaking.

The Republican candidate for Governor (Rell) has a website whose latest news posting is May 26 and latest blog posting is March 15.

http://www.jodirell06.com/news.htm
http://www.jodirell06.com/blog.htm

Of course, Joe doesn’t have a functioning website at all.

Pluto — the Joe Lieberman of Heavenly Bodies

I am totally disgusted by Chuck Schumer and his rubber stamp DSCC. They are disgusting and shameless. They should be called StabYaIn TheBack, Inc.

Pachacutec @
69

I miss my red plaid flannel sport coat.

I used to wear it with my leopardskin pillbox hat.

pictures please?

tommy yum @ 87

Good morning!

Howie just wrote and asked for a “Lieberman” version of “Had Enough,” at the Lamont campaign’s request.

Somehow, responding with “my pleasure” doesn’t come close to conveying my actual feelings.

Wa-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

also from the courant article is this:

A “deciding factor” in the UAW’s siding with Lamont was Lieberman’s refusal to abide by the results of the primary, which generated a record-high turnout of 43 percent, said Bob Madore, regional director of the UAW.

“We basically saw that to be very unbecoming,” Madore said.

(snip)

But the general election campaign already has focused on other issues. The UAW based its endorsement of Lamont on a critique of Lieberman’s support for free-trade agreements and the failure of Congress to tackle universal health care.

The union said Lieberman had failed to be an advocate for health care or protecting U.S. jobs, while Lamont, a cable-television entrepreneur, has made universal health a campaign priority.

http://www.courant.com/news/po…..ory?page=1

angie @ 113

Today, Lieberman and Lamont will mark two different anniversaries.

Lieberman will appear with two prominent Republicans, Gov. M. Jodi Rell and U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons, R-2nd, to celebrate last year’s reversal of a Pentagon decision to close the Groton submarine base.

http://www.courant.com/news/po…..ory?page=2

Author of that news in the Hartford Courant is mpazniokas@courant.com

Woody,

Figntin’ talk is fine, baseball bat threats are best left to the Bush/Coulter Republican set.

-GSD

David at 119 — never again use the phrase “heavenly bodies” in the same sentence as Joe Lieberman, please. *g*

Jane 114,
Wish I had darkblack’s skills and I could whip up a pic, but alas . . .
I am imagining Pach in that getup though. It’s so, so, je ne sais quoi . . .

Have you guys seen this OP-ED from the Courant??
http://www.courant.com/news/op…..lines-oped

I wish to file an official, notarized complaint about the new candidacy of Mr. Joseph Lieberman. I ask that the secretary of the state and the Elections Enforcement Commission remove Mr. Joseph Lieberman from the November ballot for U.S. Senate because he has undermined the integrity of our Connecticut electoral process by his action of creating a fake political party

Mr. Lieberman may have violated Section 9-368c “Misrepresentation of Contents of a Petition.” He claimed to the secretary of the state’s office that he wanted to start a new political party called “Connecticut for Lieberman” within 12 hours after losing a Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate. He has absolutely no intent of forming a legitimate third party. He keeps calling himself a “petitioning Democrat” when he knows that state law prohibits the use of the name Republican or Democrat in the name of third parties. He continues to publicly state that he is a registered Democrat and that he would align himself with the Democrats if he would win in November. He is trying to undermine our state laws about the creation of legitimate third parties by forming this fraudulent association. He has no party rules. He nominated, seconded and accepted his own nomination. He has no third party platform so his association cannot be about any new ideas. He is just trying to contest and challenge the results of a fair election on Aug. 8, 2006, on the grounds that he lost. He is unfairly trying to run twice for the same U.S. Senate seat within three months. This cannot be tolerated in Connecticut electoral politics.

more at link, WOW. Written by JOHN ORMAN a Dem who dropped out of the primary in 9/05.

Pardon my ignorance, but who exactly would be responsible for unseating Joe from his committee assignments?
I’m ready to start bombarding this person/these people with phone calls, emails and faxes.

compare and contrast:

“Today, Lieberman and Lamont will mark two different anniversaries.

Lieberman will appear with two prominent Republicans, Gov. M. Jodi Rell and U.S. Rep. Rob Simmons, R-2nd, to celebrate last year’s reversal of a Pentagon decision to close the Groton submarine base.

Lamont will be a featured speaker at an event in New York City sponsored by MoveOn.org to commemorate efforts to rescue victims of Hurricane Katrina and launch a new book about the effort. Lamont has criticized the Bush administration for its response to the disaster.”

Shouldn’t the title of this post be:

Lieberman to Campaign With Fellow Republicans Today

Also, J.Cro – the person to contact about committee assignments is Harry Reid.

OT: Notes on Bush’s notes:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..27789.html

Went looking for D campaign websites in Connecticut.

Connecticut Young Democrats have a blog. http://blog.dems.info/

Last posting was July 21 (regarding Cong. Shays). That’s more than a month ago, by my calendar. Nothing since then.

Quite organized, them Young D’s.

I just left a comment about Ned Lamont.

http://blog.dems.info/2006/07/…..ts-no.html

OT
FDA OK’s Plan B for OTC at long last.

Except at Catholic hospitals and for those not so professionals who will find it distasteful to help women who are desperately in need because they loves them innocent blastocysts more than live women.

j.cro @ 128

Pardon my ignorance, but who exactly would be responsible for unseating Joe from his committee assignments?
I’m ready to start bombarding this person/these people with phone calls, emails and faxes.

Harry Reid

Mornin’ All,

IIRC, it was explicit the AFL-CIO endorsement was for 8/8 only (hey, I could be wrong)

but if that was the case, have they issued an endorsement for November ?

gleex @ 131

OT: Notes on Bush’s notes:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..27789.html

And:
http://www.bagnewsnotes.com/

Pachacutec @ 69

I miss my red plaid flannel sport coat.

I used to wear it with my leopardskin pillbox hat.

Pach, I haven’t had my coffee yet.

beard5 @ 103

Christy Hardin Smith @ 43

I think people should start turning up at Lieberman events in redcoats for Turncoat Joe. Having spent time in New England during college, I’m fairly sure that everyone would get that symbolism right up front. As if the Bush smooch weren’t enough…blergh.

Christy, if anyone needs patterns for the redcoats, I’ve used this one and it doesn’t completely suck. Not as easy to use as Simplicity/McCalls, but pretty darned good. (Note to anyone wanting to make one, the armhole is significantly smaller than we’re used to in modern clothing. It’s tight and it’s supposed to be tight.)

–I love this idea.

So do I. Are there theater companies (or university theater departments) that might have red-coat costumes from Revolutionary War-era productions, and hence racks of red coats? What a beautiful sight to see a throng of red coats trailing Lieberman to his public events!

A boy can dream…but seriously, does anyone have CT theater connections?

John Casper @ 131

j.cro @ 128

Pardon my ignorance, but who exactly would be responsible for unseating Joe from his committee assignments?
I’m ready to start bombarding this person/these people with phone calls, emails and faxes.

Harry Reid

Thank you John Casper @ 131

And if anyone else would like to join me in my email/fax/phone call bombardment here is the contact info:
http://www.congress.org/congressorg/bio/?id=370

Washington Office:
528 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, D.C. 20510-2803
Phone: (202) 224-3542
Fax: (202) 224-7327

Main District Office:
333 Las Vegas Blvd. South, Ste. 8016
Las Vegas, NV 89101
Phone: (702) 388-5020
Fax: (702) 388-5030

Raw Story just picked up the news.
This is outrageous, people. Just when you think he has gone as low as he can possibly go, Benedict Lieberman just keeps flaunting it.
He is really asking for it. Let’s see if the leadership takes note and takes action. Fax to end this flunky’s foolishness.

David Ehrenstein @ 117

Pluto — the Joe Lieberman of Heavenly Bodies

Too true, and just look for yourself (wait — that’s Droopy Dog I’m thinking of)!

For your morning amusement. Afterall if we can’t laugh at ourselves, what good are we?

http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/….._to_n.html

This is all Markos’ fault. The RepubNatCom is now warning their folks about the insidious plot to encourage folks to support Dems. Be afrair, be very afraid. But ABC is on to them.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..SFeeds0312

WoodyGuthrie’sGuitar @ 117

[Edited by CHS — no threats of violence, even in jest. Period.]

The Dems in the Senate need TO-fucking-DAY to empty NoMoJo’s office and move his fucking desk into the fucking parking lot…
jeezis
.

Woody
I assume you meant that as snark. I HOPE you meant that as snark. But please don’t threaten physical harm to another human being, even in jest. It’s not funny and it only gives the wingnuts ammunition.

Sorry, the only pictures include me surrounded by stunningly handsome latin men who are not out to their families. Not for publication.

144–Crop?

angie @ 123

also from the courant article is this:

A “deciding factor” in the UAW’s siding with Lamont was Lieberman’s refusal to abide by the results of the primary, which generated a record-high turnout of 43 percent, said Bob Madore, regional director of the UAW.

“We basically saw that to be very unbecoming,” Madore said.

(snip)

But the general election campaign already has focused on other issues. The UAW based its endorsement of Lamont on a critique of Lieberman’s support for free-trade agreements and the failure of Congress to tackle universal health care.

The union said Lieberman had failed to be an advocate for health care or protecting U.S. jobs, while Lamont, a cable-television entrepreneur, has made universal health a campaign priority.

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angie @ 123

also from the courant article is this:

A “deciding factor” in the UAW’s siding with Lamont was Lieberman’s refusal to abide by the results of the primary, which generated a record-high turnout of 43 percent, said Bob Madore, regional director of the UAW.

“We basically saw that to be very unbecoming,” Madore said.

(snip)

But the general election campaign already has focused on other issues. The UAW based its endorsement of Lamont on a critique of Lieberman’s support for free-trade agreements and the failure of Congress to tackle universal health care.

The union said Lieberman had failed to be an advocate for health care or protecting U.S. jobs, while Lamont, a cable-television entrepreneur, has made universal health a campaign priority.

http://www.courant.com/news/po…..ory?page=1

Thanks angie.
I am thrilled the UAW did this so quickly. (I wish they would have done it right after the primary). I guess they saw that Ned was narrowing the gap and wanted to jump on the bandwagon and before he took the lead. I bet this puts a lot of pressure on NARAL, PP, …..

I am imagining Pach in that getup though. It’s so, so, je ne not nevah sais quoi . . .

*atou @ 140
There are lots of revolutionary war reenactment groups in N.E. who undoubtedly have red coats for loan. I know that they stage events in Concord and Lexington MA every year on Patriot’s Day. They shouldn’t be too hard to find.

“Are we creating more enemies than we are killing?”

-Don Rumsfeld

(Snip)

Sadr “clearly is the most potent political figure, and the most popular one,” in Iraq, said Joost Hiltermann, Middle East project director for the Brussels-based International Crisis Group. “Unless directly provoked, Sadrists will lay low, because they know the Americans’ time in Iraq is coming to an end,” he said. “Why would they risk another major loss of fighters if it’s not necessary? Americans in their eyes are already defeated — they’re going to leave.”

(Snip)

At the time of the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, Sadr’s militia did not exist. Today, his army numbers tens of thousands.

Washington Post article

-GSD

Oh, and if you want to call Senator Schumer’s office that deals with the DSCC issues, here’s the number: 202.224.2447

Pachacutec @ 139

Sorry, the only pictures include me surrounded by stunningly handsome latin men who are not out to their families. Not for publication.

Are any of them single?

GSD – regarding your comment of getting rid of dem opponents by way of poison – I live in Minnesota and small airplanes is the way we lost our brightest star (Paul AND his wife). And a star that I miss daily. AND his green bus.

RevDeb @ 63

Christy Hardin Smith @ 55

RevDeb at 51 — I have to say, I’m awfully glad the Dem color is blue. With my hair, red has never been a particularly good choice. *g*

I hear you. But with mine going silver, red did look great. Oh well, I just got a cobalt blue polar-tec jacket from LandsEnd to replace the red one I can’t wear. Cobalt works.

With your hair GOING silver. Ummmmmm….hmmmm….I don’t know how to break this to you but…

I just called the DSCC. The disinterested person who answered the phone said the DSCC was not going to repudiate the candidacy of Joe Lieberman. When I told him about Droopy Joe campaigning with Republicans Jody Rell and Rob Simmons in CT today, he just said, “Yeah, we know about that.”

What special Kool Aid are they drinking at the DSCC?

LHP,
So good to see you on a thread. Saw your comment on the Civility thread. I hope all is well. Big Hug!

Good morning, lhp! How’s ever’ li’l thang?

OT, but interesting article on the trend of reverse migration:

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/…..KO8FJ1.DTL

karen allen @ 153

What special Kool Aid are they drinking at the DSCC?

I think that the speculation I’ve heard is true. Big money donors are applying heavy pressure to hedge their bets

If you want to avoid the sleepey Barney guy who answers the DSCC phone in Washington, try Senator Chuck Schumer’s office in Washington (202-224-6542) or any of his numerous NY office numbers.

Jane, the website you list simply goes to the DSCC home page and the only contact information for an email provided on that page is to the webmaster of the site. If anyone has any better info, could they please post it?

Another place with lots of redcoat re-enactors is Bristol, RI around the fourth.

Millineryman @ 154

Pachacutec @ 139

Sorry, the only pictures include me surrounded by stunningly handsome latin men who are not out to their families. Not for publication.

Are any of them single?

I had them all at once. . .

Karen, I’m so sorry you got that frustrating response to your phone call. It’s just inconceivable to me that they are turning a deaf ear to this situation! What will it take?

Grandma J,

Poor Paul Wellstone, I only wish he had been in the Senate for the non-existent Bush-Iraq war debate.

-GSD

What will it take?

Not quite sure, meta, but whatever that is, I bet they’re fixin ‘ to get . . .

karen allen @ 151

I just called the DSCC. The disinterested person who answered the phone said the DSCC was not going to repudiate the candidacy of Joe Lieberman. When I told him about Droopy Joe campaigning with Republicans Jody Rell and Rob Simmons in CT today, he just said, “Yeah, we know about that.”

What special Kool Aid are they drinking at the DSCC?

I too phoned the DSCC offices and got a somewhat disinterested person. They admitted to being aware of what Lieberman was doing today and when I asked how the DSCC could support such disloyalty, he merely said he’d pass my comments on to Sen. Schumer.

I also phoned Sen. Reid’s offices and spoke to a pleasant person. I asked if Sen. Reid was aware of what Joe was doing today. He said he was… I asked if Sen. Reid plans to remove Lieberman from his committee assignments, considering he is technically not running as a Democrat any longer and obviously has no loyalty to the Dem. party and the staffer said Sen. Reid was not commenting on that at this time but he would certainly pass my commments on.

I hope everyone can take a few moments today to phone both the DSCC and Sen. Reid’s offices. We need to let them know we’re out here watching.

OT-Speaking of stunningly handsome Latin men, my young nephew just came out of the closet. We all embrace him for who he is, but his twin brother is quite freaked out. I hope time will heal this.

Has anybody called Joe a quisling yet?

From Wikipedia:

Quisling, after Norwegian fascist politician Vidkun Quisling, is a term used to describe traitors and collaborationists. It was most commonly used for right-wing political parties and military and paramilitary forces in occupied Allied countries which collaborated with Axis occupiers in World War II Europe, as well as for their members and other collaborators.

In contemporary usage, “Quisling” is synonymous with “traitor”, and particularly applied to politicians who appear to favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own. It was Dictionary.com’s Word of the Day on July 9, 2006.

Except maybe republicanism is his culture and is only now surfacing.

Pach at 69

Awright that’s enuf! You can’t have it both ways. Either you allow still pix of yerself to be posted, or you stop conjuring up such thoroughly intoxicating images in our minds.

We want to see the real deal.

p.s., nice to wake up today & see FDL’s perking along nicely again *whew

Joe is LESS likely to caucus with the Dems if re-elected. The only way he can deliver for Connecticut is if the Republicans reamin in the majority and he is one of them.
And that is what his campaign is trying to ensure. What can he get out of being in the minority after this?
Schumer et al better wake the hell up. BTW, I got another begging letter from the DSCC yesterday. I’m not giving any money until I see that Ned is supported enthusiastically by Schumer et al. And I don’t mean a token $5000.00 check. Do they want power or do they want incumbency? Pick one.

Pachacutec @ 156

Millineryman @ 154

Pachacutec @ 139

Sorry, the only pictures include me surrounded by stunningly handsome latin men who are not out to their families. Not for publication.

Are any of them single?

I had them all at once. . .

You lucky man!

I like this from over at norweginity:
Bossists on all sides should fear the electorate.

meta @ 170

OT-Speaking of stunningly handsome Latin men, my young nephew just came out of the closet. We all embrace him for who he is, but his twin brother is quite freaked out. I hope time will heal this.

Seriously, my best to the whole family, and my admiration to your young nephew who did what I could not even imagine as a possibility in my youth.

Two OTs from The Muck:

Plame to Sue [Armitage]?

Katrina: DHS Official Relied on CNN for Intel

Traitor Joe story hits Rawstory.

Beenadick Lieberman-Sellout

-GSD

Adie, people around here have seen me, and I’m not much to look at. But it’s been too long since I just hung around to be silly, mostly because I’ve been busy beyond all get out. Still, given recent misunderstandings, I wanted to help set things straight, as it were.

meta, what Pach just said at 173. I’ll be thinking about them.

lotus @ 173

Two OTs from The Muck:

Plame to Sue [Armitage]?

Katrina: DHS Official Relied on CNN for Intel

I read those. ew on TNH had it nailed.

Good morning, lotus.

Here’s a Britney thing that’s amusing. Perhaps.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UlkzgI_jNUg

dropping in briefly. OT, front page of SF Chronicle today:

Booby-trapped: Politicians get caught on candid cameras

Virginia Sen. George Allen was looking right at a hand-held video camera last week when he called a staffer of Indian descent from his opponent’s campaign “Macaca,” a term considered derogatory.

Montana Sen. Conrad Burns must have known he was being recorded when he said his house painter was “a nice little Guatemalan man” and joked that he might be an illegal immigrant.

And what was Florida congressional candidate Tramm Hudson thinking when he said, on tape, “I grew up in Alabama. … I understand that blacks are not the greatest swimmers or may not even know how to swim.”

The three Republicans violated California political consultant Dan Schnur’s cardinal rule of politics:

“If you don’t want to be caught on videotape saying something stupid, don’t say stupid things.”

…

Now there’s a scary thought for the average politician. Someone like Allen has spent millions of dollars to hone his message, shoot his TV ads and craft his sound bites. And then, because he came up with a remark about a member of his opponent’s staff that appeared to be racist, all that is out the window.
…

Meta: Thanks for your caring. I’ve called the DSCC before, so I am well aware of their totally apathetic attitude towards all things Democrat. IMHO, they really don’t care about Democrats winning, they care about NY politics. These are the same people who forced Paul Hackett, a wonderful progressive candidate, out of the current Ohio senatorial race.

tommy yum @
89

Good morning!

Howie just wrote and asked for a “Lieberman” version of “Had Enough,” at the Lamont campaign’s request.

Somehow, responding with “my pleasure” doesn’t come close to conveying my actual feelings.

How about;

Are You Still Here?
Or
Gone Yet?

GSD – Remembering Paul Wellstone is why Howard Dean really struck a cord in me I guess.

Paul was in the Senate at the time of the intial vote to support Bush in his quest to attack Iraq. Everyone, and I mean all the local papers, his fellow Senators, EVERYONE, was telling him to vote for the war, or be attacked as weak on defense and a loser in his upcoming run against Coleman.

He came home to MN the week before the debate and talked with people. And explained why it was such a troublesome vote in his mind. He surely did not believe that attacking Iraq was the next legical move after Afghanistan. But it was a very tough vote.

At the time his poll numbers in MN against Coleman were anemic. He had changed his mind on term limits and decided to run again in light of 9/11 and Bush getting elected in 2000. Coleman was beating him up about that and the poll numbers reflected that. He sincerely felt his voice was needed in D.C. Amend to that.

He went back to D.C. and voted against the Iraq resolution. He came home to Minnesota to a glorious reception for his courage, and his poll numbers immediately surged and he was running ahead of Coleman in the next 2 polls. He was well on his way to being relected.

And then the crash that took him, his wife and his daughter — all great political minds.

We are still grieving. And Coleman the fool is sitting in Paul’s seat.

meta @ 167

Karen, I’m so sorry you got that frustrating response to your phone call. It’s just inconceivable to me that they are turning a deaf ear to this situation! What will it take?

JMO, but the people who answer the phone are in a bad spot. If they say, “I agree,” to some stranger on the phone, they are probably afraid they’ll lose their job.

The fact that they aren’t responding with talking points suggests to me that they know that their talking points are worthless. I suspect, however, they are tracking all those comments, so it really helps when people call.

Bustednuckles @ 186

tommy yum @
89

Good morning!

Howie just wrote and asked for a “Lieberman” version of “Had Enough,” at the Lamont campaign’s request.

Somehow, responding with “my pleasure” doesn’t come close to conveying my actual feelings.

How about;

Are You Still Here?
Or
Gone Yet?

“Momma, Don’t Let Your Son Grow Up to be a Traitor”

(Joe = traitor trash)

On Hardball last nite, Matthews asked the political analyst (Charlie Cooke?) who would win in Ct. He opined that if you add the Repubs and Indies, that’s enough, so Lieberman has the best chance. He did not explain further. Chris did not ask about the latest ARG/Rasmussen poll showing a much closer race and/or dead heat than early poll, and neither man said anything about the Indies opposition to the war.

If you believe this CW, then it makes perfect sense for JL to make this appearance. What he’ll do is appear Republican to the Republicans, but then claim to the press (and his party) that this was an example of his bipartisan approach that wins jobs for folks in Ct, and since this is celebrating the jobs, and not “campaigning,” how could he not show up? Joe will continue to try to be all things to all people, because that’s how he thinks he’ll win.

I frankly find it hard to believe that JL can win on this combination, because the major move of Indies over the last few months was for many unaffilated to reregister as Dems, and they provided the margin of victory. We heard this anecdotally walking the neighborhoods.

With Joe appearing on CNN’s Beck show and agreeing with everything Beck said, and his comments on Imus, I expect that Indy trend to continue, because the anti-war/anti-Lieberman sentiment among Indies is still not fully reflectected by the CW, IMO. The Repubs are not moving much, although as Iraq collapses further, the might move more to Lamont — it seems unlikely Lamont will lose any of the support he already has from Repubs.

So the real difference in this campaign could turn on whether JL can keep the significant Dem support he still has. Here, Lamont has much to gain, Lieberman much to lose. Everything he does to endorse/support/sound like a Repub undercuts what I think is his only plausible winning strategy.

IMO, Lieberman’s endorsement of Glen Beck’s extreme neocon war with Iran statements should be broadcast and condemned as enabling the Bush crazies to lead us into another non-winnable war — and that will, by the way, further exacerbate the loss of security/credibility Israel suffered in Lebanon. I hope the Dems (not Lamont alone) play that card, and I don’t care one whit for threats to defrock Lieberman now, which I see as self-defeating.

bbuster @ 166

Has anybody called Joe a quisling yet?

From Wikipedia:

Quisling, after Norwegian fascist politician Vidkun Quisling, is a term used to describe traitors and collaborationists. It was most commonly used for right-wing political parties and military and paramilitary forces in occupied Allied countries which collaborated with Axis occupiers in World War II Europe, as well as for their members and other collaborators.

In contemporary usage, “Quisling” is synonymous with “traitor”, and particularly applied to politicians who appear to favor the interests of other nations or cultures over their own. It was Dictionary.com’s Word of the Day on July 9, 2006.

Except maybe republicanism is his culture and is only now surfacing.

The traitor meme should be left to the wingers. Its a tactic that will come back to bite them in the end. Joe isn’t into republicanism as much as he has been seduced by power. He wants to be one of the powerful ones and his only route is through office.

Re: the idea that Joe could replace Rummy as SecDef. Why would Joe want to take guaranteed short gig while presiding over the collapse of the neocons dreams.

My dear Senator, Upchuck Shumer, and the other Israel first Democrats in Washington HAVE to disclaim and repudiate their pal Liebermole. That is a must. Not to do so paints them as traitors to the Democratic party along with him, IMHO. They all think they are not accountable for their filthy posturing and positioning, and their twisted loyalties.

Pach, Lotus. Thanks so much for your warmth and good wishes for my family. There is a lot of love there, and here.

Hey Jane,

The better link to the DSCC is this one.

http://www.dscc.org/about/contactus/
Phone (202) 224-2447
Fax (202) 969-0354

with the telephone numbers.

I STRONGLY advise all FDL readers to call up the DSCC offices and demand that the DSCC publically denounce Lieberman and strip him of his comittee postings. You can not be a Democrat and actively campaign against Democrats in your state.

By crossing the line like this Joe is clearly saying he is not a Democrat. You can not campaign for Republicans and have any semblance of being a member of the Democratic party.

This morning Joe has made his choice, which apparently is self immolation. Joe Lieberman closet suicide bomber, who knew?

[Moderator edit: understand the analogy, but that’s a little over-the-top]

“What have you done, Joseph Lieberman? You want Republicans to vote for you…woo-woo-woo…

What have you done, Joseph Lieberman? That Senate seat does not belong to you…woo-woo-woo, woo-woo-woo”

John Casper: I agree that they (answering at the DSCC) can’t say anything they aren’t authorized to do. But to sound totally bored, disinterested and even irritated that we are calling? Not good, not wise.

Good morning to you, LindyH!

Three of my fave grafs from John Orman’s Courant op-ed include:

Connecticut voters have a right to have their votes count in a fair, meaningful and decisive manner. Elections are supposed to decide things. Mr. Lieberman, by creating his faux political party less than 12 hours after he lost the Democratic primary to Mr. Ned Lamont 52 percent to 48 percent, totally made our historic, record-breaking primary worthless. Mr. Lieberman challenged the results of the election in his speech that night of the primary, He did not claim voter fraud or ask for a recount. He challenged the results of the election simply because he lost. In the long history of Connecticut politics, I do not recall any candidate for a major office contesting the results of a fair election merely because they lost. There are no do-overs in democratic elections in the same cycle because one candidate cannot accept his loss. If he is not removed, this will set an intolerable precedent for future Connecticut elections.

and

Mr. Lieberman’s phony party, “Connecticut for Lieberman”, violates the spirit and intent of our state laws covering third-party development. This law was never intended to allow defeated majority party candidates to run again after they have been defeated. If Mr. Lieberman wanted to form a real third party, he should have dropped out of the Democratic primary and formed one. Instead he gathered petitions while being a registered Democrat and while presumably using Democratic money to start this party of one. This is high-class election fraud and he should be removed from the ballot.

He may or may not have lived up to the letter of the law, but he sure grossly violated the spirit and intent of our third-party laws. He is only doing this to force the state to vote all over again between Mr. Lieberman and Mr. Lamont. We already had that election.

(emphasis mine)

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OT – Bush Administration Invents New Excuse To Oppose Embryonic Stem Cell Research

clearly agitated, clare gets a timeout and passes the time . . .

DITHERING SCHUMER CAN’T COPE

DIDACTIC SLOGANEERING CASH CULT

DULL, SHITTY, CHEESY, CAMPAIGNS

DO SEND CONSULTANTS CASH

DID SCHUMER CRATER CONNECTICUT ?

DODDERING SENATORS CLAIM CERTAINTY

DSSC SPEWS Complete CRAP

DEMAND SCHUMER CEDE CHAIR

It seems the Democrats are too much concerned that Joe Lieberman’s potential vote in the Senate might be the difference between them being the majority party or not.

First there is the likelyness that Ned Lamont will winn in Connecticut, and that would make the Lieberman issue mute.

However, should Lieberman win in November, there still are the possibilities that the Democrats win a majority without Lieberman’s vote or Democrats being in the minority with Lieberman’s vote. In either case, Lieberman would be meaningless. So just playing the statistics game, Lieberman will either not be a part of the next Senate or his vote might not mean much.

I wonder if there are people in the Democratic party who assess those risks. The smart money is no longer on Lieberman.

Now there’s a scary thought for the average politician. Someone like Allen has spent millions of dollars to hone his message, shoot his TV ads and craft his sound bites. And then, because he came up with a remark about a member of his opponent’s staff that appeared to be racist, all that is out the window.

Please pass me the Kleenex, pun.

Glorfindel @ 188: UPCHUCK Schumer! How fitting.

Like others above, I like Christy’s red coat idea, though figuring exactly how to orchestrate such a campaign could be tricky. There are several historic “museum towns” around New England where actors re-enact revolutionary battles, which could possibly serve as a source for red coats. It still sounds kinda hard to pull off effectively though. Plus, it’s still too warm around here to be wearing a coat during the day!

Maybe it’s time for another straightforward papier mache float: Turncoat Joe’s Gotta Go. Lieberman himself wearing the red coat. Or something like that…?

[ As an aside, I just caught up on all the threads after a few days away and am quite relieved at the positive turn FDL has taken. I was starting to nurse a foul feeling in my stomach that FDL was approaching some dark destuctive precipice, which I thought would be a shame given the good work during the Lamont primary. Seems like this morning’s thread is evidence that the discussion about civility and criticial dialogue has done wonders. Thanks, Christy.]

Listen – I know you all are going into moderation right and left, and I’m freeing you as soon as I can, and I have Christy looking into it…hopefully, we’ll figure it out soon!

Hang in there!

BOFFO, CLARE AT 200. Yeppers!

Hey all,
I just called both the DSCC and the DCCC to complain about Lieberman (Con-Lie-CT) and his plans to campaign with Courtney’s opponent today. I stated that I was a life-long Dem and a PCO, and that I was disgusted with Lieberman for stabbing us in the back, and that now he was manifestly working to oppose Democratic takeover of the House with his actions today.
I emphasized that Reid and Schummer and Emmanuel needed to vocally and publically repudiate Lieberman, and that the leadership of the DSCC (eg Pryor) had to get on board with Lamont.
I received a very polite and attentive response from the staffer at DSCC, however, the person at DCCC clearly couldn’t wait to get me off the phone and hung up on me mid-sentence.

That didn’t take long. His slow-motion implosion isn’t going nearly as slowly as I was expecting. Only 6% of likely voters say they’re going to vote for the Republican candidate. Is he trying to pull in those folks? This stunt is going to cost him far more Democratic votes than he gains.

Since Joe refused to recognize the results of the primary, I wonder if he’ll recognize the results of the November election, when Ned spanks him again. I imagine Joe will have to be dragged out of his office by Capitol police, thrashing and shrieking like William H. Macy at the end of “Fargo.”
I will look forward to watching that on Youtube.

For those constituents of Carl Levin who would like to see him support his own party’s Senators, he is already in MI for this week’s convention, so you’ll want to call the Detroit office. 313-226-6020.

I suggested to the nice man who answered the phone that it might be nice to have a statement before the Convention on Saturday, so we don’t have to keep asking him to his face.

You might want to ask him what he thinks about funds that could have gone into Debbie Stabenow’s war chest going to support a guy who is working to get Republicans elected.

RevDeb @
4

So why is it exactly that the DSCC thinks that J-Lie is going to caucus with the dems IF he gets elected?

Because he’s shown such loyalty to the dems in the past?

I don’t get it.

You got it, RevDeb!

Does Schumer have “Kick Me” tattooed on his forehead? Or does Lieberman have pictures of him with gay goat fetuses?

Prof., Same thing at Ned Lamont blog. Anyone want to adopt a candidate?

Phoenix Woman, exactly!

I’m absolutely convinced that Bush & Co. have pictures of leading Dems in flagrante delicto with goats, chickens, and various other barnyard animals. There’s simply no other way to explain their behavior. I guess now that Lieberman’s the de facto Republican candidate, Rove was good enough to share those pictures with him.

Phoenix Woman @
211

RevDeb @
4

So why is it exactly that the DSCC thinks that J-Lie is going to caucus with the dems IF he gets elected?

Because he’s shown such loyalty to the dems in the past?

I don’t get it.

You got it, RevDeb!

Does Schumer have “Kick Me” tattooed on his forehead? Or does Lieberman have pictures of him with gay goat fetuses?

I just emailed the DSCC:

Your website claims to be “committed to electing a Democratic Senate”,
yet the DSCC has not yet endorsed Ned Lamont for Senator. This in spite
of the fact that Mr. Lamont has been endorsed by many if not most of
the Democratic leadership.
By contrast, “independent” Joe Lieberman has been endorsed by many in
the Republican leadership INCLUDING the White House. These are the
people that the DSCC is committed to defeating.

The last straw has come today, when Joe Lieberman has shown his true
roots by campaigning with GOP candidates Jodi Rell and Rob Simmons at
the Groton sub base. While this is within his rights as an independent
candidate, THERE IS NOW ABSOLUTELY NO REASON FOR THE DSCC TO SUPPORT
HIS CANDIDACY, OR TO CONSIDER HIM ANYTHING OTHER THAN A DE-FACTO
REPUBLICAN.

I demand that the DSCC publically denounce Lieberman and strip him of
his comittee postings IMMEDIATELY.

Thank you,

Anyway, another pissed off Democrat heard from.

You don’t know how it warms the cockles of my heart that Former Gov. in ankle bracelets Rowland is on HoJo’s a-list of celebrity contributors. Warning tacky site!

scarecrow @ 190

He opined that if you add the Repubs and Indies, that’s enough, so Lieberman has the best chance.

CT is full of moderate Republicans who are appalled by Bush, Rove, Cheney et al, and what is happening to the US. I think there is a lot of moderate Repub & Independent support for Lamont – they despise Lieberman.

The real issue for me is – how the Dem party is going to handle this. They can’t wiggle out of this one.

We are seeing all the components of the losing, tired strategy they have used for the past 20 years play out here. The rock has been lifted and there is no where to hide.

Call Harry Reid’s office at 202-224-3542 and ask them what they think of Lieberman’s campaigning for Republican Congressional candidates in Connecticut.

Oh, and let Nancy Pelosi know what’s going on, too: 202-225-4965. I’m sure she’ll be thrilled to death to find out that Holy Joe’s campaigning for GOP Congresscritter candidates.

Red-blue color schemes were coordinated by TV networks in ‘92 and 96 campaigns. But those colors were limited to election night TV coverage for easy visibility. After 2000 election, red and blue colors became permanent and came into common vernacular.

when something like this happens, and lieberman is not stripped of his status in the democratic party, we are left with a frightening thought

are we undermined from within?

how is it possible lieberman is not stripped of whatever status he has?

it’s NOT possible, UNLESS those that would administer the admonishment were in league with the man

Here. Though it’s not exactly campaigning so much as appearing with.

Prof @
20

Jane, maybe it’s because I haven’t had my coffee this morning (which I’ll fix forthwith), but I don’t see a web link in your article for the fact that Lieberman is campaigning with 2 Republican candidates at Groton today.

Where did I miss it?

Hi Jane,

I’m not sure this counts as campaigning. I’d like to know if this is unusual behavior or not.

I’m not rooting for the other side. I would seriously like to know.

stephen

Jane S. @
99

Jane & Christy & Prof.–

I was looking for this info. in the MSM as well–b/c it is a bombshell and if Dems don’t deonounce him over this, well, I give up.

My question for you is has someone told the Wash. Post, the NYT, the Hartford Courant about this rumor?

Jane,

I enjoy your site, and i am a true blue Lamont supporter, but i don’t want to become a Republican either, one who twists and distorts facts.

Can you provide a LINK or some proof that Lieberman is campaigning with republicans or else a clarification…all the blogs link to you as the source but you don’t have a link to the original source….a retraction is fine too, we all make mistakes….i do feel somewhat manipulated as MyDD got me to call DSCC. That was probably a good thing anyway, they need the pressure, but if its overblown, it makes us look bad.

thanks

Peter
Madison,WI

Peter, MyDD’s verified this.

Oh, and by the way, Peter (who I am going to assume is not a concern troll): You must not have visited Google News in the past, oh, four hours or so.

Here’s the scoop::

A message was posted last night at the blog of Democratic challenger Ned Lamont, who bested Lieberman in the August 8 Democratic primary, indicating that Lieberman would campaign today with Republican Governor Jodi Rell and Republican Congressman Rob Simmons, both of whom are up for re-election. Jane Hamsher at the blog Fire Dog Lake added that the campaign event would occur at a submarine base in the city of Groton.

Coverage by the Associated Press refers to the event as a “strategy session” to keep the base off the list of military facilities facing closure.

There you go.

Phoenixwoman:

I have been over at My DD and they link to FDL to this original article…am i missing the source link?

Peter

What’s going on with Lieberman has left me saddened and shaken, wondering what’s the point of supporting such people.

If it weren’t for the hideousness of Republican governance, I would seriously consider leaving the party. I’ve never seen such public contempt for their own constituency as is being evinced by the DSCC and the DCCC.

I’m the one who’s posts Jane is posting. I spent some time today writing to Schumer directly while I was on his website. The form requires that you select a topic heading.

*There is NO heading for “Elections” or Primaries or even Candidates. IOW, there is no way to properly subject your letter. Not so inadvertently, that means when they cull the results, no where will they be able to ennumerate all those who have written in about Lieberman.

Something needs to be done.

Here’s the scoop::

A message was posted last night at the blog of Democratic challenger Ned Lamont, who bested Lieberman in the August 8 Democratic primary, indicating that Lieberman would campaign today with Republican Governor Jodi Rell and Republican Congressman Rob Simmons, both of whom are up for re-election. Jane Hamsher at the blog Fire Dog Lake added that the campaign event would occur at a submarine base in the city of Groton.

Coverage by the Associated Press refers to the event as a “strategy session” to keep the base off the list of military facilities facing closure.

No mention of DEMOCRATIC SENATOR Chris Dodd or any of the Democrats in Connecticut’s Congresssional delegation, so they must not have been invited when Lieberman, Rell and Simmons planned this shindig.

By the way, if the Groton base is allegedly in dire danger of being closed — the supposed reason for this photo-op of Joe’s — then how come the Navy just started building a $600 million housing complex there last year?

Groton — The Navy and a contractor broke ground on a housing complex Wednesday that represents the first step in developing more than $600 million of new and renovated units in the Northeast that officials predicted will be popular with sailors.
…
GMH will spend more than $600 million over the next six years in Navy communities stretching from Lakehurst, N.J., to Brunswick, Maine. In Groton, it will build 122 new three- and four-bedroom townhouses on the former Nautilus III North, replacing 124 three-bedroom units; 119 homes for senior enlisted people and officers in Dolphin Gardens; and 44 three- and four-bedroom townhouses on the former Cherry Circle mobile home park. All the projects are slated to be finished by next spring.

In addition, 427 units in Nautilus Park, Conning Towers and Polaris Park will be renovated, with new kitchens, bathrooms and laundry rooms, as well as new lighting, flooring, paint and carpets.

As far as I can see it, this story thus far is lacking sufficiant evidence. I am a strong Lamont supporter but it kinda seems like someone’s jumped the gun here. Beating up Reid over a huge unconfirmed claim ain’t cool either.

A top diary at Kos is reporting:
“private meeting over how to keep a sub base open has suddenly turned into a campaign rally where Lieberman is promoting the election of republican candidates?

Since when has a policy meeting where (for the love of god!) people from the opposing political party attended been considered a campaign rally for that opposing party?”

Were we mislead and worked up over a false claim? If so, FDL owes us an apology. Being a true progressive to me is winning by telling and exposing the truth. Exaggerations and lies for “the means justifies the end” logic is for repubs.

This should prove to all Democrats that Lieberman is a lap-dog REPUBLICAN.

After reading this I wrote to one of my Senators, Barbara Boxer and asked her to
support Ned Lamont and the Democratic party. In addition, I asked her to follow-up with Harry Reid and strip joe of his leadership positions and stand with the Democratic party.
I asked her why she would stand with someone who voted for Judge Alito; why Chertoff still has a job when he was Brownie’s boss and Joe sure as heck hasn’t held the Bush administration accountable for the lack of security in the U.S.; why she would stand with someone who was with W on social security; I told her that the Democratic voters in Connecticut voted for Ned Lamont. I believe at one time Joe was a good man and still is but my support is with Ned Lamont and the Democratic Party and asked Barbara to hold the Bush adminstration accountable and hold Joe Lieberman accountable for his inept and very weak role in the Senate.

Next time check the facts. This kind of thing won’t do Lamont any good.

Onset of Alzheimer’s, perhaps…?

This was kind a relief for me to hear though. I was sore afraid Lamont was going to have to run against a sane Joe Lieberman. But Lieberman can’t win without a sizable chunk of the Democratic vote. There just aren’t enough Republicans in CT to make up the difference if the Dem vote goes over overwhelmingly for Lamont. And I seriously doubt this kind of behavior is going to further endear Mr. Lieberman to Democrats in any way.

Oh wait. I get it. Thanks PhoenixLady, for posting the AP clip. That clears things up considerably.

FYI, Groton was on the chopping block in the Base Realignment and Closure thing last year or the year before. Keeping it open was pretty huge for CT’s economy and a major accomplishment on the part of their entire congressional delegation (Dem’s and Repub’s). So if they’re breaking ground for new housing down there now, I guess they’ve got a right to crow about it a little.

Leftofliberal, I emailed the DCC and got a polite stiff-arm saying that the DCC is only concerned about House races. I then reiterated (as I noted in my first message) that his Senate bid is hurting Dem House races.

I also noted it was worrisome I had to point this out to them, and that I had hoped that were smarter than that.

Guess not.

steve duncan @
40

51 votes. If a Lieberman win assures them 51 seats Schumer, Reid, Clinton and Obama would all blow the S.O.B. on alternating days for a month after the election. Don’t believe any crap about Joe getting put on some sort of shit list or being booted from the party. 51 votes. That’s ALL that matters. Today’s Dems are a cesspool of cowardly invertebrates. LBJ would’ve taken Lieberman aside and informed him defying the party meant he was soon to be the most miserable bastard roaming the halls of Congress. He’d have to swim a stream of shit just to get to his desk. No chance for that type of enforcement with this crew.

What gave LBJ power was the seniority system. There weren’t all those sub-committees for every day of the week so every Senator can preside over something. In the old days the leadership had the kind of power that only the Republicans now wield and nobody crossed the party line or they’d get a call from Sam Rayburn or LBJ.

The democratic caucus today is like a band of headless chickens running in every direction. None of them can ever resist the urge to put both feet firmly in their mouths, usually on national TV.

It’s just sad how spinelessly useless they all are. As Teddy Roosevelt said “You can’t carve a man with backbone out of a banana.”

OK, it’s now the day after yesterday. What are the CT newspapers saying about yesterday’s Groton event? Did it in any way resemble the “campaigning with Republicans” description?

I suspect it comes down, Clinton-like, to what the meaning of “with” is. Here in New York, if you’re running for office, you attend the Salute to Israel parade or risk being smeared as a latent or blatant anti-Semite. And if politicians of the other party do the same, you could technically be considered as campaigning “with” them, but let’s get real.

I suspect it’s the same deal with the Groton event. The Groton base is as sacred a local cow in CT as Israel is in NYC. Did Lieberman appear “with” Republicans in the Salute to Israel sense or, as Jane insinuated, in the lending-support sense?

If she made too much of this, she could acknowledge such openly and move on. Holy Joe is sufficiently odious without any added hype.

Per the above comment, reviewing the media reports it is somewhere in the middle. Thes was a staged PR event and this time of year to call such a thing a campaign event is legitimate. I’ve only seen mention of Lieberman but none of the other Democrats who were involved in this last year being present. There are Republicans quoted saying favorable things about Lieberman.

There is some ambiguity, but there is enough there to call this “campaigning with Republicans.” It adds to what we already knew–that Lieberman is the Republican-preferred candidate in this race.

Beyond that, this is far from the strongest case against Lieberman. It’s not enough, by itself, to use to call for things like removal of Lieberman’s seniority. There’s enough ambiguity in this being a state event to give Lieberman cover.

It’s not that terribly significant a thing, but I did wind up in a debate over this after I linked to this at my blog, Liberal Values. The discussion is at:
http://liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=141#comments

Thing is, they were breaking ground on the $600 million housing project BEFORE the pro-forma insertion of Groton onto the BRAC list. The fact that Groton got a near-unamious thumbs up WRT BRAC shows that it was not in danger then and it’s not in danger now.

As he mentioned in somebody’s pro-Joe diary over at DKos, Pachacutec’s been talking to various DC pols and insiders about this and they’re all in shock that Holy Joe’s using the pretext of “saving” a non-endangered sub base to justify doing a photo-op campaign appearance with two GOP Congressional candidates eager to distance themselves from Bush, and who are looking to Holy Joe to give them the fake “feint to the center”.