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We’re delighted that Arianna Huffington will be joining us on Sunday, September 17 at 5pm ET/2pm PT to discuss her book On Becoming Fearless… In Love, Work and Life. This is a real pleasure for me because Arianna is one of my own personal idols, an iconic woman who always seems to effortlessly bridge the divide between living an involved political life and a gracious personal one. She’s one of the first people I look to for inspiration and advice and her timely book is the perfect antidote for people who have seen their culture overtaken by the politics of fear and are looking for a way to transcend it. We’ll kick off the discussion here in week 1 on September 10, and we look forward to playing host to Arianna herself on the 17th. I hope everyone will join us for this wonderful opportunity to chat with this truly visionary and fearless woman.
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FITZ!
Arianna! :)
wow, that was fast FGD!
Women!
bdu @ 3
Luck of the draw, that’s all. *g*
I let ya have it FGD ;)
Ditto angie!!!
Triple Ditto Angie and lotus
and BTW…Plan B approve over the counter…I need to pinch myself. I feel an alternate reality creeping in.
Oh, Jane, great news. Arianna will be a lot of fun, and coming after John Dean will be added, but different, inspiration as we move closer to the election. I will rush home from work that day and try to catch the end.
Thanks.
angie @
4
I’m all for that!
Joe Scarborough going beserk over the right’s perception that CNN/Amanpour’s 2-hour special on Osama bin Laden was too favorable and thus a recruiting tool for AQ, echoing a review by NYT.
John Fund is one of the panel experts.
When the bad guys were all communists, we went through the same thing. Commies were everywhere; insidious, could be the guy next ta ya.
Next story: how it’s a mistake to marry a career woman.
I learn so much on MSNBC.
youkillednoodle
yup we’ll get right on that.
Smart, powerful fearless women, the bane of the right.
I’d love to ask her opinion of the permanent bases in Iraq we’re building, but I’ll be happy to lurk that day, since the focus is her book and the book’s theme.
Okay, I’m out. Thanks for the chats — catch you all tomorrow.
Jenny, heh.
scarecrow 12 – I had to change the channel.
Millineryman @ 14
Including a certain WATB
I just wish we could clone an army of Ariannas, and then let them lose on a mega-church or something hehe.
Millineryman @ 14
And Amy Goodman, Democracy Now… I have no words to describe how much I admire that woman.
Jenny from the Blog @ 20
Nor do I.
On Becoming Fearless. What on earth is the book about?
Ghostman
Arianna! I’m a very, very hard sell when it comes to icons. But there are very few I admire as much as Huffington. When you say “Arianna”, most if us readily realize who is being referred to.
twolf1 @ 17
For me, it’s like the scene in The Princess Bride, where Wesley tricks the smart-ass kidnapper into drinking the poison, because he’s conditioned himself to survive the poisonous iocane powder. On the other hand, I couldn’t participate in those late-nite sessions where everyone went out looking for rightwing craziness/racism etc.
oh, and Hanan Ashwari and Shirin Ebadi.
And currently on HufPo:
Gary Hart: Twenty-first Century Rome
Arianna was on cspan with Rob Reiner (if I remember right) a while back & I roared when she called our windy leader a dry drunk. Very astute is Arianna.
angie @ 25
Amen and amen and RIVERBEND.
I heart Gary Hart.
angie @ 25
And Christiane Amanpour. Hey, is Hanan Ashwari still around? Haven’t heard her name in a while.
youkillednoodle
you betcha.
lotus:
amen.
Yes, she is, Jenny — saw her not that long ago, I think.
Hanan is still around and speaking out!
Not so much on Amerikun teevee, though. ;(
lotus & angie -
Oh that’s good to know. I miss some things not watching news…
scarecrow @ 24
I would never have taken you for a Princes Bride kinda guy. Full of surprises you are.
Guess it wouldn’t have flown to have a Christian woman as Palestinian PM, but what a job I bet Hanan could do in that post.
Well I guess it’s just us grrrls… :)
Coupla girls sitting around talkin’.
Posted this at end of last thread, but since it’s from HuffPo, I’ll post here too:
Sen. Santorum Dodges Social Security Gorilla…
RevDeb -
I think I caught your cold. Getting sicker by the minute! (which is why I sound like I’m delirious… :)
I lurve The Princess Bride, no suprises there *g*
I think, lotus, that the Palestinians (any Islamic country in or out of dire straits for that matter) would have embraced Hanan as their leader IF the west would do the same…and we did not and will not for a long while, I fear unless and until they toe the line.
Nothing gave Buttercup as much pleasure as ordering Westley around.
Jenny from the Blog @ 41
Oh no! it’s a bad hanger on kinda cold too. I’m still hacking away.
I hope I didn’t give it to you . . . .really!
RevDeb:
Well I think this sore throat and runny nose has your name all over it, but hey, what are friends for?
Love Hanan. She has her mothers looks, and reminds me of every female relative on my fathers side – pale skin, dark eyes & hair, smart as hell!
Jenny
Had the sore throat but no runny nose. It all stayed in my head and went straight to the lungs. It’s not my usual kind of cold. The usual kind I had at YKos. Been a bad summer for traveling and sickness.
Just teasin’ ya, Deb. I’m sure it wasn’t you. :)
whoopsies– I do not mean to imply that there are Islamic countries. There are countries that have an Islamic majority and that is what I meant to say. In no teaching of religion or conversations with Muslims have I ever found a hatred or disparagement of women or other faiths. But then again, I have been blessed with good teachers and friends.
RevDeb. I’m not. She’s a woman. But it is great movie.
RevDeb -
Hope you don’t mind I announced here at FDL that your mom looks just like Lauren Bacall.
Crooks and Liars asking for readers to help on the Mean Jean casting no shadow photo in the marathon. Another Rosie Ruiz me thinks?
Jenny from the Blog @ 39
Sorry, I’ll leave. ;)
scarecrow!!!
oops.
Jenny,
I never saw that in her. For 80, she’s pretty well preserved in some ways.
scarecrow @ 53
Hey, that never stopped you before, why now? You know we loves your company . . . and your wit ;~)
I will say, this is THE most distaff FDL thread I’ve ever encountered. scarecrow, go call the guys outta the poolhall or wh’ever they are.
RevDeb @ 52
I don’t think the photo was faked. Her shadow would be behind the runner in front of her. Besides, it’s a photo of the Lumbus Rathon not the Columbus Marathon ;)
http://jeanschmidt.com/images/Marathon.jpg
scarecrow– we need you guys, you are one big hunk of honesty and reason!
I promise, it’s safe as can be!
Let’s just remember that Arianna was not always the lib dream babe she has become, and that during her presumably unhappy marriage to Michael Huffington, she beat the conservative drum both shrill and loud. Franken used to take her to the rhetorical woodshed so often, it’s no wonder she metamorphosed after she learned she was in a sham marriage. I don’t begrudge her that transformation, we all have our journey’s in life, but as far as I’m concerned, she and guys like David Brock are doing the bare minimum to make up for past crimes. It’s a lot, but it’s only the bare minimum. Their contributions to conservative misinformation were not benign, and devoting the latter part of their lives to rectifying those wrongs is the absolute least they should be doing.
angie @ 29
I do too. I heard him talking about his new book which is due out this September (can’t find the title anywhere). He focuses on core Democratic values represented by FDR (New Deal), Truman (Truman Doctrine/Marshall Plan), Kennedy (public service) and Johnson (war on poverty & civil rights) – how the party has lost its way and how to get back on track.
Regrettably, I have not had the opportunity to read any of the books featured here at FDL, as buying books has been one of the things I’ve had to drop post-K, and it’s difficult to find those books at my local branch library. However, while visiting the library the other evening, I lucked into first crack at a brand-new arrival, a book entitled “Winkie” written by a gentleman named Clifford Chase. The title character is a teddy bear who comes to life and is subsequently mistaken for an arch-terrorist and put on trial for an absurd litany of crimes. It was a highly entertaining read, and I do not hesitate to recommend it here at FDL.
twolfie, I can’t make out which runner she is there — do you know?
This is a little late, but just getting around to reading earlier posts and comments. I was interested the talk of a third term for Dubya had legs. Won’t happen. He doesn’t want it. He’s tired of “workin’” already.
re: the Mean Jean photo. Although, the one part that does look a little fishy is the 3 in 1993 on the banner.
Lotus, she’s the one with the re-elect schmidt shirt on. check the link in my last post for a bigger picture than the one at C&L home page.
Ok, I’m through playing pool for now.
OT: I got tied up a good part of the day and haven’t yet had time to go back over the parts of the threads that I missed.
Can someone give me a brief synopsis of what finally resulted in the “Joe Gotta Go and his fellow Goopers campaiging together in Groton” story from this morning?
Ta!
AirportCat
That book was in the swag bag they gave out to all of us at YKos. It’s the one that I haven’t gotten to and wasn’t sure why they included it. Thanks for the reminder.
Just ordered Conservatives Without A Conscience and Fiasco. I don’t get over to her blog as much as I would like but Arianna always impressed me on television interviews and such high praise from Jane and others here is impressive. I will have to do a little extra reading and see if I can catch up.
I do love the the Book Salon.
Hey, ACat! Haven’t seen you around much lately — howya?
I meant to ask you next chance I got, whether you’ve been out to, or heard about the condition of, Middendorf’s since the storm. I’m assuming they may have missed a wrecking, but I don’t know . . .
RevDeb @ 67
Read it, you’ll know why it was in there. It’s a truly witty allegory (if that’s the correct word, literature was never my strong suit) for our times.
Joe is a dirty traitor and campaigned with rethugs touting his singelehanded save of the Groton sub base in exchange for his embrace of the neocon agenda and no relief for rape victims and his embrace of Glenn Beck.
done.
my 71 was a synopsis for you, Mad Dogs @ 66.
ahem.
AirportCat
I also received a free copy at Yearly Kos. I haven’t read it–I came home with about 10 books–but my wife has. She says it is about the strangest book she has ever read. Not that there’s anything wrong with that…
angie’s nothing if not crisp.
Mr Blifil @ 60
Some might discourse, not me of course, that your tone is coarse.
I saw Hanan Ashrawi talk in person about ten years ago, and I have to report, it was amazing. It was easily the strongest impression any politican has left on me–kind of like what I surmise the effect of actually meeting Bill Clinton in person would be like.
If she were Minority Leader, we’d actually have Rule 21 every day until the report were out…and Joe would have a permanent involuntary twitch from the memories of his post-primary encounter with her!
This is bullshit! I crossed that finish line on my broomstick an hour before I posed for this picture.
-Jean Schmidt(R)-Oz
Eureka,
Finished CwC on the plane home Mon. night. Enlightening is the word. I have it so marked up I’ll have to leaf through it again before Sun. It really shows these people for the evil SoB’s they are and does so with actual sociological research.
Wish I had more time for reading, but I seem to be spending my reading time here these days. I really don’t know how Christy and Jane and the others do it!
angie @ 72
Lovely Angie!
And so was your synopsis!
Ta!
If she were Minority Leader, … Joe would have a permanent involuntary twitch from the memories of his post-primary encounter with her!
With that exquisite image, we take this place to a whole new level of wonderful.
angie,49:
There is at least one country that is officially Islamic, the Islamic Republic of Iran.
Professor Foland @ 76
Hanan’s tough, smart, devoted. When I think of House Dems with those qualities, Pelosi does not come to mind.
You are right, Professor Foland about Hanan!
For HoJo and his fellow bootlickers:
Mr. Blifil @ 60
At least those two are really doing something. Most of the others who have finally gotten a clue have retreated into the fetal position or are in denial.
They’ve done enough to earn my respect at this point in time.
France saying it’s contributing 2K troops to Lebanon. BBC
?Responding to criticism, they’re saying they have received the further information they requested.
no link, just hearing this now on radio
Isn’t Pakistan also “the Islamic Republic of …” ? (I know, I could go find out, but I’m getting lazy in my sleepiness.)
lotus @ 69
I’ve been ok, mostly only get to read the posts after getting home in the evening, feeding the herd of cats and such. Had an MRI of my head this morning, they didn’t find anything ;)
Middendorf’s is the seafood place in Pontchatoula? I live on the west bank, due south of N.O. proper, and that’s on the north shore of Lake Pontchartrain. Unless a tree fell on them, they should be fine, and business is generally booming on the northshore these days. I don’t often get up to the northshore, so I don’t know either
Saw Mary Landrieu today at my place of employment. Would have gone over and asked WHAT THE HELL IS THE MATTER WITH YOU, SUPPORTING LIEBERMAN OVER THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE FOR SENATE IN CT? but I still need my job.
Larry Johnson is so right on. This post about the Republican whine about inadequate intel on Iran and its relationship to the disclosure of Valerie Plame’s covert status should be front paged at the NYT, but of course it won’t be. The post by Ray Close just before this is also an excellent commentary on why Bush will attack Iran before he leaves office.
http://noquarter.typepad.com/
newtonusr 82:
She was stunningly awful when she spoke at the ‘04 Dem convention. I wasn’t sure what to expect but she disappointed me greatly. Not a good presentation.
All of those countries are responding to geedubya’s crusades started by the ever loving Reagan…
do we really want to go there?
The Islamic Republic of Iran is light years ahead of us on stem cell research.
“Visionary”? I dare you to elaborate.
Conventional long form:
Islamic Republic of Pakistan
-GSD
anyone heard from HopeSAT?
RevDeb @ 78
I don’t either! I used to read at least a book a week and now down to less than half. I am really looking forward to CwC, thanks for the shared excitement.
On the billfill point – I had no idea she was once a conservative. Only discovered Ariana last year on Bill Maher’s show. My television spends most of the time in a closet or with a tapestry over it. Good for her!
OT
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Ariana as a conservative… thems were interesting times here in CA… glad to see she’s reformed!
My God, Hanan Ashwari spoke at the Democratic convention!
I knew they were terrorist lovers!
-Zell Miller
I heard a great quote on MSNBC nightly news this eve. I generally don’t expect such insight from the MSM:
“The Democrats have given GWB everything he has asked for in his ‘war on terra’. The Republicans have refused to give him the one thing he needed: OVERSIGHT.”
Oh. My. God.
Somebody call TRex, Pamela has let her puppies out of thier cage.
Scary videoblogging
GSD @ 97
I tried to fix it but my five minutes were up. :(
Zen Nurse – Sure is great to see you back.)
BBC- former CIA officer Robert Baer saying the Iran decision will be mande 100% politically, the intelligence is so bad. Best Farsi speaker in CIA is 72 years old, nobody coming up speaks it. CIA blind, WH blind, NSA is blind. No intel coming from inside the Iranian government. Political decisions made without intel are bad, bad, bad.
Reminder, BBD, not american media.
zennurse @ 88 – you are so right. They opened the door with today in their critique of the intelligence community. BushCo should be smacked down hard for the damage they’ve done to our National Security.
(snip)
Valerie’s identity was exposed by Scooter Libby, Dick Cheney, Karl Rove and others in Bush Administration in the summer of 2003 while she was doing undercover work to monitor, detect, and interdict nuclear technology going to Iran. Larisa Alexandrovna broke the story on Raw Story in February 2006. David Shuster confirmed the report on Hardball on 2 May 2006:
While the heart of the CIA leak investigation is the Bush administration`s aggressive defense of the WMD case for war in Iraq, there is new evidence now the defense may have undermined intelligence efforts on Iran.The key player in the CIA leak story is Valerie Wilson, a CIA operative whose identity was outed by White House officials. As MSNBC first reporter yesterday, Wilson was not just undercover but, according to intelligence sources, was part of an effort three years ago to monitor the proliferation of nuclear weapons material into Iran.
(snip)
The leak did more than ruin Val’s ability to continue working as an undercover CIA officer. The leak destroyed a U.S. intelligence program to collect information about Iran’s efforts to get nuclear weapons material.
http://noquarter.typepad.com/m……html#more
zennurse @ 85
If I remember correctly, CBS News this evening “intimated” that ze Franchies were irked that the Italians were making them seem like wusses.
Nothing motivates ze Franchies like someone calling into question their manly courage. And particularly, not from those Italians! *g*
lotus @
86
You’re right, but Pakistan appears not to be a theocracy in the sense of Iran, where the ultimate authorities are the mullahs.
OT: Holy Crimony!
Alabama democratic party ousts candidate because she’s gay!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14505740/
AirportCat @
62
I brought “winkie” home from YKos in a swag bag; my fiance has read it but says it may be too intense and sad for me to read. He does go around saying “I am my own bear” quite a lot lately, though….
zennurse @
99
This Pam person… she gets paid for this? seemed she was complaining about Boosh quite a bit (but she was pretty hard to understand)
neurophius @ 73
I mostly read mystery novels — Earl Emerson, John Lescroart, Carl Hiaasen, and James Lee Burke are among my favorites — but I didn’t find “Winkie” to be all that strange. I’m sure I’ve read stranger books. I also liked the photos in the book, they were very well done.
So how convenient that a tried and true spy network in Iran was busted up by Bushco? Guess their new spies can say just about anything now.
OJ,
Musharraff is the military dictator of Pakistan. He toppled the democratically elected leader in a bloodless coup.
-GSD
I thank you very much, Eureka, it’s good to be back, very very good. And I am a little embarrassed (but very grateful) at the wonderful reception I’ve had, so many lovely comments from such great friends. I was afraid folks would just forget me, but after the first week or so, Selise and RevDeb got on the phone and so sweetly expressed thier concern that I was ill or needing help. I became quite teary, I’m not ashamed to say. It means so much to me to know my absence was noticed and my usually OT comments were missed.
So thanks to all.
thank youse zen!
Pammy says she is not ginormous enough to save america. good plastics work on the upper torso and nice personal training on the biceps, but moby’s got nothing on her legs and butt.
somebody please put a sock in her mouth and tell me where she is lolling about, spewing forth…
Riesz Fischer @ 106
In Indiana, the Democratic State Central Committee includes 2 representatives of the Stonewall Democrats just because they’re GLBT !
*ilson, what does GLBT mean?
It just doesn’t get any better than Arianna. I know all about Arianna’s history. I lived in California when she was campaigning for her then husband. I voted against Mr. Huffington. Arianna has been tireless in her efforts to expose the truth. Which, as it turns out, just happens to coincide with progressive ideals. If Edward R. Murrow were alive today, he’d be interviewing Arianna.
angie @ 113
Oh my God – what an asshat! Hope that clip gets wide distribution. I’m sure TDS could do something clever with it.
Why is saving Social Security from W’s predation not enough for some people?
(Don’t mean to single you out, newt, but…)
While my Congresswoman’s presentation and television skills may not be first rate, faulting her for her toughness, smarts and devotion seems unfair given her singular success with Social Security. There’s lots of valid criticisms of the current Minority Leader. These three ain’t.
I’m going to demur from the Arianna lovefest, and here’s why:
A while back (which would have been the Alito confirmation) I said some tough, inflammatory things in comments at FDL which directly challenged the editorial line of the proprietress, and mounted a series of insultingly sharp refutations of what other commenters were saying on that issue.
Jane told me publicly that I was full of shit. She took no steps to remove my critical comments nor to ban me from further comment participation. (I did voluntarily shut up and step back for a while to let overheated tempers cool.)
I did something very similar recently in comments at HuffPo. There, what I had submitted went straight to the bit bucket. There is a strict party line on certain issues there, and if you transgress that, well, out comes the airbrush.
What Arianna is running over there puts me in mind of it being the FreeRepublic of the left. Comments are welcome as long as they don’t introduce any discordant notes to the echo chamber. Which should not be considered laudatory by anyone.
Mad Dogs @ 104
think of it as the diplomatic equivalent of a Zidanesque head-butt.
Hi, Firepups…
Check the update on my Saturday 19th post. Agghhhh…
http://santafeandthefatcityhorns.blogspot.com/
Gotta run.
xoxoxo, Zennurse…
Riesz Fischer @ 106
This is just abhorrent; she says it’s not because she’s gay but because she’s white in an overwhelmingly black district. Just sickening, I hope this gets wide attention.
Thanks for posting this.
dwi @ 98
That was Rahm, iirc.
Not exact but GayLesbianBisexualTransgendered.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 116
do we really have to wait another year to meet each other? i truly hope not! mebbe we could just meet up after the midterms and celebrate and plan rabid redd lambsher strategerie?
Thanks, VG.
GLBT is shorthand for Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, Transgendered. In some overly-correct locales a final Q is added for Queer — rarely in Indiana…
I mean all y’all!
Could that Alabama Oust possibly hold up in court?
Eureka Springs, AR @ 129
I’m no lawyer but I’m guessing it will. They have her on a technicality.
Just finished Joe Wilson’s book. It was quite good. The FDL gang would know most of the stuff, except maybe for Wilson’s extensive (and impressive) background in US diplomacy and other interesting biographical details. The Wilson’s are good people and true patriots.
Am currently reading Noam Chomsky’s Hegemony or Survival. I am very impressed with Chomsky’s ability to compress much historical detail containing key players, timeframes, and places within a few paragraphs. This book is packed with information that he uses to drive home his point that the US is and has been the world’s most aggressive(and dangerous) nation for a long, long while. And that the American public is manipulated like patsys by the right wing media.
TeddySanFran @ 107
Now that is funny!
lotus @ 86
Me too. But IRRC, Islam is also the state religion of Afghanistan. There was some fuss about that in the American press when the new Afghani constitution was adopted.
marquer @
119
And you lived to tell about it. I respect that…
Eureka Springs, AR @ 129
AmericaBlog has the story and a link to a local blogger who explains the whole sorry mess.
the thread my response is to originated earlier this a.m. I posted here so Trex could actually read it..
TRex, I respect what you and the other authority do here at this board, but i have to say that insulting Michael Jackson is worn out, tired and most of all, childish. I know what the so called media has done to confuse many in the public regarding MJ, just as they do with terra terra terra–Iraq–911 wah wah wah. But, there will soon be a ray of sunlight that shows the TRUTH. The NECON azzwhipes have been at WAR with this HUMAN-BEING for nearly 15 friggin years. They want to swiftboat him until his final eartly day. Why? Because they are VENGEFUL, GREEDY, DECEITFUL bit.ches. Please don’t use the man’s name in vain, I ask in kind. He’s really had enough. I KNOW. Thank you for listening.
Chomsky is a special hero imho, hackworth. Lots of people say he is too long-winded; I have found him refreshingly honest. It hurts, but invigorates.
angie @
125
I’m pretty sure there’ll be a hell of a swearing-in after-party in DeeCee for BlueAmerica candidates in January….
punaise at 120
Doh! You’re absolutely right! It’s the World Cup, stupid!
If I was European, I’d never have missed that connection. Ain’t no way that ze Franchies are gonna forget that!
marquer @
119
HuffPo has never displayed any of my comments. I don’t bother anymore.
zennurse @ 99
There’s 60 seconds of my life I’ll never get back.
Achhhkkkk! Ptui! [spit take] My ears are bleeding, my ears are bleeding ;)
so, I’ve been out. What have I missed today?
Angie…7:31pm
Aw… shucks angie. Gee you’re swell.
Pachacutec @ 142
same old, same old.
*ilson46201 @
127
here at the end of the yellow brick road, we have GLBLTIQQO: gay, lesbian, bisexual, transgender, intersex, queer, questioning, other.
Teddy,
Out of curiosity, what qualifies as “other?”
john in sacramento @ 141
I had the sound off and couldn’t watch the whole thing.
Valley Girl @ 95
Someone should let Nate know. His site demonstrates that he’s a first rate designer etc. If he’s willing to work for progressive candidates for free, think how much better it would be if he can get paid.
I’m kinda tired tonight.
Riesz Fischer @ 140
ditto.
oh, i’ll go over there to read Jane’s next post, for sure, but partly in hope of seeing a transgressive darkblack image, i admit….
RevDeb @ 146
Never been so curious as to find out. Gotta be careful who you ask what in this little burg, you might find yourself roped into stuff you never woulda thought of, and just for asking a question (and I do mean roped into!)
Reading Sadly, No! is making me laugh.
Pachacutec @ 149
Check out pammy, Pach, those pups‘ll perk ya right up!
TeddySanFran @ 151
never mind . . . i think ;~)
then again if anyone ever does answer it, be sure to share it with us.
Got this in an email from an old high school buddy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;index=0
It’s Hundred Year Flood playing “I Ain’t Gonna Fight in a Rich Man’s War.” Why haven’t I seen this before? Good.
Jane at 134:
Exceptions prove the rule. *g*
P.S. – Damn fine scoop on Joe’s Gooper deathbed confession and autodefenestration!
Hope the Dem Powers-that-be can now finally get off their fat lily-white asses and bury this turdlette!
ok, Teddy what gives? what is “other”?
could not be more scandalous than the reality we are living, right?
Pach –
I just found this beautiful photo of Machu Picchu –
angie @ 157
I think Pam and her pups qualify as “other” :)
Kurt @ 159– well then, in honor of Ms. Christy— blergh!
I can kind of relate to ‘other’ — or ‘none of the above.’
hackworth @ 131
Check out this video
Manufacturing Consent: Noam Chomsky and the Media
angie @ 157
I suppose furverts (plushies) might fit into the “other” category, or perhaps bestialists, or faux-bestialists (pony play). Well, you asked…..
ck: ty!!
Not sure I can handle Pam this close to bedtime. Nightmares. Scary.
Kurt at 157:
707!
Ah, now that I checked a link, it’s the beach vlog, eh? Digby had that up the other night, so I’ve already seen it. Made me swear off swimming in the Atlantic in Digby’s comments.
I’ve never tried to comment at HuffPo but wow, she must have a buncha moderators… that’s a pretty big site to monitor so closely.
zennurse @
97
Zenn, my darling, I’m way ahead of you. Stay tuned for a Late Nite examination of Pam at the Beach.
You know, TBogg is making me think that, what with Bush reading 60 books this year, we should invite him to moderate a Book Salon.
The week after, maybe one of his intellectual peers, like Gore Vidal.
I am very excited that Arianna is coming to FDLBookSalon, not the least reason is the platform Ms. Huffington provides to Jane. In a world where celebrity is used to entice, rob, and seduce, it’s really nice for there to be a nexus where humor, goodwill, and saving the planet seem to be the goals.
I like the name of Arianna’s blog because I imagine it must piss off Donald Graham, owner of WaPo.
There’s a special place in my heart, also, for anyone ever misled about the preference of a partner, and for that Arianna will always be someone whose life experience I respect. Therefore I pay attention when she talks. Also I like it when she takes Howie Kurtz to the woodshed about the wingnut bloggers — on his own show!
Pach — ty?
TSF — okay, SF ‘other’ is not something I can relate to.
Although the last time I was there (1972?) we attended a theatre thingy that was very flamboyant and audience interactive. I think substantial quantities of alkaloids were involved.
at the beach…YIKES, I think it must be past my bedtime, nite all.
zen @102
depress me more :(
I didn’t even know they had comments at HuffPo. Do they treat it more like letters to the editor? Filter ‘em all, and only post selected?
youkillednoodle @
10
You can’t be serious?
Jenny from the Blog @ 167
sometimes, it takes hours… but, it can be worth the wait.
Jon on TDS is all over the Rocky story!
It’s great.
angie @ 176
ha! I could never wait for something like that. I only comment here and even that amount of time is guilt-inducing. :)
ty = thank you, for the pic.
(and I do mean roped into!)
never mind . . . i think ;~)
then again if anyone ever does answer it, be sure to share it with us.
I went fishing with a gay friend (he was into electricity) and he pointed out a niteclub along the river. He said that a lot of young gays went there. I asked him if he liked that club and he said that he didn’t like it much b/c it was full of “vanilla queens”.
Naturally, I had to ask what a vanilla queen was. Turns out that a vanilla queen is a guy that is perhaps somewhat inexperienced or new who has a rather run-of-the-mill taste in his sexual activity. (Quite unlike electricity dude.) Made sense to me.
Wow, I just turned the sound down and watched the Pam video again.
Them are some firedogs!
I wonder if Wolcott has seen it.
‘night, all!
pach — yw!!!
To all the commenters re Mean Jean Schmidt’s marathon photo: A formal complaint about Schmidt including various races/wins/completions in her resume was filed with the Ohio Election Commission. The Commission has completed its findings. They voted 3-1 that Schmidt did indeed falsify her resume regarding the marathon claims. So it’s been decided, with all the evidence considered.
This isn’t the first time Schmidt has been found to have lied on her resume. She claimed she had completed two degrees from the University of Cincinnati. In truth, she only had one. She further lied in her defense attempt, saying she just forgot to pick up the second diploma, yuck yuck. Here again, the Ohio Election Commission found her guilty of misrepresentation and fraud.
I’m with you, 117. For some reason I see Jane Et al in an entirely different light. She handles critics with a slap along side the head when the mood strikes her, not with the delete button, or worse yet, the dreaded ISP delisting.
I’ll stick to worshiping mother earth, you can keep Mother Huffington.
We will now return to the shadows.
I’ve always wanted to go to Machu Picchu…maybe someday, sigh.
And Samantha Bee is making delicious fun of nanotech, but it really is the future hehe. Very promising technology that will be just as revolutionary as using iron tools and stuff.
Jenny from the Blog @ 178
this is why I comment ‘ere (mostly)
late-nite-fdl-live-from-no-brains-atoll
marquer says:
August 24th, 2006 at 7:28 pm
I’ve mostly been avoiding HuffPo. Far too many right-wing trolls, every time I’ve been there. Wading through that crsp to read the handful of intelligent comments is not worth my time.
Jane, I’m happy that you’re happy about this AH event, and I hope you have a great time!
I considered the George Clooney episode a character-revealing situation for AH. (I’ll stop there.) Since then, I go elsewhere for my daily mind-stretching and snark-polishing exercises.
Respectfully submitted…
I’m seriously late to this thread and haven’t read it all, but I’d like to second all the good comments on Ariana — despite the M. Huffington days.
My one-time best friend worked for A, for a while in the 80s. KerryK often bitched about her and the rest of the family, but being cranky and honest was part of his M.O.
Fast forward (but still in the mid-80s): Ariana is in SF (where I live) co-hosting a party at the Getty’s (yeah) and (obviously KK had everything to do with it) I got an invitation. I tossed it out; I don’t go to parties at the Getty’s… jeebus.
Fast fast forward: I didn’t RSVP, told KK I couldn’t possibly go and the next thing you know I’m on the phone WITH Ariana. Talk about GRACIOUS! Talk about CONVINCING!
Yes, I did go. Super stellar cast. I remained, for the most part, frozen in a corner admiring the knick-knacks, paralyzed, speechless (and I can talk, believe me).
Well, this memory of A got me through the M. Huff days (couldn’t quite believe it, you know). I’m a fan forever. She’s big. She’s real. And so fucking smart.
But you already know that.
Cheers, Ariana.
newspaperbrat @ 173
Very true. Although I don’t know whether it counts as “trolling.” I saw it as bullying, plain and simple.
I just happened to catch the end of the uproar, and went back to read what led up to it. Whether or not the contributor’s posts were off-topic, weird, whatever, HuffPo handled it extremely poorly. The upshot was that their tech guy was posting bullying/hectoring comments (without identifying himself as a HuffPo employee) on every (or just about every) post that contributor submitted. When the contributor began investigating who this individual was, he found the connection, and posted that information of HuffPo. Then the fireworks were on. The contributor was unceremoniously dumped.
Thus began a round of bullying and mobbing that the GOP would have been proud of. I sent a comment in to Arianna’s partner in starting the site, referring him to a number of sites describing those phenomena and telling him it’s to be expected that a whistleblower would be a bit “odd” psychologically, and that whether or not he “liked” the techie in question, it remained an ethical lapse to post as though he were “just one of the crowd,” especially since his comments would likely appear first in line and therefore get voted up by the numerous RW trolls. Never showed up (imagine that!)
They did change the rules for rating up comments after that — now you have to log (as if to actually comment) to do so. One thing that came out of the pitched battle was that contributors to HuffPo apparently had (have?) access to the personal information of commenters – can track ISPs or whatever, which is more than a little disturbing.
As an aside, yeah, the posts in question were very strange and people had complained, apparently. (They always sounded odd to me, so I had never before read any of his posts other than in his area of expertise) However, allowing an employee to (admittedly) bully an invited contributor without any consequence is pretty disappointing for a progressive website.
Furthermore, you’d think they wouldn’t need me to tell them about the psychological issues of whistleblowers. Of course he is what many would term “paranoid” (really “hypervigilant”) it’s a symptom of Complex PTSD, suffered by many whistleblowers.
All that said, youkillednoodle could well be the contributor in question — the one post of theirs remaining reads a lot like his allegations posted at HuffPo. I think the concept of mobbing explains the situation better than pimping for page views. The guy needs help, not abuse that exacerbates his problems.
Finally, I weighed in on this simply to clear up the question. Out of respect to our hosts and other readers here, Arianna’s appearance at the book salon is not an appropriate forum to raise these issues, per the guidelines re: no non-book issues in those threads.
And now back to your regularly scheduled late-night programming….
I’m not a fan of Arianna’s for three reasons. First, I think her goal has always been to become a famous jet-setter, not to do something well because she thinks it’s important and take whatever fame doing it brings her. Second, in supporting Bill Bradley in 2000, she repeated some of the most-famous lies about Al Gore, thereby giving them more credence. We’re living with the consequences of people doing that today. Third, she allows right-wing nutcase Michael Smerconish to post on her site. I wouldn’t mind that if I merely disagreed with his views but felt he argued honestly in backing them up, but he distorts the truth and uses specious logic to make his case. Look him up on Media Matters some time. I have tried to make this point in commenting on his posts on Huffington Post, but my comments have never shown up. I have a ton of respect for Jane and Christy; they began blogging out of concern for what was happening to their country. I think Arianna began blogging for the same reason she does everything: out of concern for herself.
If you want your comments posted on Huffington, denigrate the Clintons, particularly Senator Clinton. It may be residue from Arianna’s conservative days but she out-Dowds Dowd on Hillary.
I take the bad (abundant, obnoxious, filthy-mouthed, ignorant trolls) with the good, or the good (Arianna’s fierce smarts and many thoughtful guests) with the bad.
I admire Arianna Huffington too. I also admire Hillary Clinton. Ask the former WOMAN why she has to demean the latter WOMAN.