(graphic love by darkblack!)
You know, every couple of months, I think that this is It. Bush has jumped the shark and his inevitable decline, fall, and trip to the Hague are mere months away. And yet, each morning, I wake up and he’s still there, mugging and shrugging and making yet another disastrous speech for yet another gaggle of sycophantic slag reporters, none of whom (except, apparently, Helen Thomas) have the stones to ask him the hard questions.
I have fantasies about my own day in the White House press room. In it, by some freak mischance, I have been able to pose as a male prostitute or a Pox News "reporter" or something and thereby wormed my way through security and then, amazingly, he takes my question.
Bush: Yeah, the 60ft. Tyrannosaur there in the back, heh, I don’t think I know you. Can I call you "Barney"?
TRex: Ah, no, Mr. President. I’d rather you didn’t.
Bush: Heh-heh-heh, well, you’re a feisty one, arncha? Aheh. What’s your question, Barney?
TRex: (sighs heavily) On 9/11, Osama Bin Ladin’s forces killed 2,763 American citizens, whereas the war in Iraq has now killed 2,613 U.S. military personnel. With only 150 dead Americans to go, how do you plan to celebrate tying and ultimately breaking Osama’s record?
At which point, I suspect I would be dragged, kicking and roaring, from the room.
TRex: Oh, and by the way, it’s NU-CLE-AR, you DIPSHIT!!
Yeah, it’s probably a good thing that no publication in the United States would ever be foolish enough to grant me press credentials.
More and more, Resident Bush is reminding me of Uncle Rico from "Napoleon Dynamite". Just sort of useless, always hanging around. Always bragging about some scheme or another or trying to make you watch his videos of himself posing with a football. Except Uncle Rico is stuck in 1982, while Bush seems to be stuck somewhere in late September, 2001.
(Scene: A bedroom in the White House living quarters. President Bush is lying with his head pillowed in Karl Rove’s ample lap. A glass of warm milk sits steaming on the night-stand as Karl gently brushes the strands of hair across Bush’s forehead.)
Bush: Karl?
Rove: Yes, my Lord?
Bush: Tell me again about how great I was at Ground Zero.
Rove: Again? I’ve already told you that story three times this week!
Bush: I know, but it’s my favorite. Heh. Heh-heh.
Rove: Alright, one more time, but after that it’s lights out. You’ve got a lot to do tomorrow, and even the Leader of the Free World needs his eight hours of sleep.
Bush: No, then I want you to tell me how good I looked in my flight suit that day on the deck of the Lincoln.
Rove: Goodness, aren’t we bossy, tonight?
Bush: Heh! What’re you gonna do? I’m the Decider. I decide what’s best. And I think you better tell me how great I was at Ground Zero. Or I’m gonna give Josh Bolten your office.
Rove: You already did that.
Bush: Oh, right. Heh-heh, aheh. Now, tell the goddamn story.
Rove: Okay. It was September 14th, 2001. You went to Ground Zero and jumped up on that pile of wreckage with a bullhorn…
Bush: Don’t forget where I hugged the fireman!
Rove: Yes, you did. You hugged that fireman all by yourself. And everybody thought you were the Greatest President Ever.
Bush: That was pretty cool, wasn’t it?
Rove: It was cool, very, very cool, and then…
(Fade to black…)
Seriously, though. I’m starting to think that something is neurologically wrong with the man. Well, aside from being less astute than a plate of cabbage. Take a look at the moment about halfway through this press conference (about a minute and 35 seconds) where he just seems to…gray out for a second. He’s in the middle of a sentence and then seems to completely lose track of where he is and what, exactly, he’s talking about. Not that you can particularly tell, these days, when his train of thought derails. I mean, all the cars are empty anyway, so what’s it matter?
And then there was Monday’s fiasco, where he did finally cop to the fact that there were never any WMD’s in Iraq and that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11, but of course, he gets into some pretty fine hair-splitting when he insists that "no-one" in his administration suggested that Saddam was behind the attacks of 9/11.
Well, no, they didn’t say that. But let’s not forget Dick Cheney’s multiple appearances on "Meet the Press" where he deliberately misled the public about Saddam’s relationship with Al Qaeda and the terrorist attacks in 2001. From Media Matters:
On September 14, 2003, Cheney said the following on NBC’s Meet the Press: "If we’re successful in Iraq, if we can stand up a good representative government in Iraq, that secures the region so that it never again becomes a threat to its neighbors or to the United States, so it’s not pursuing weapons of mass destruction, so that it’s not a safe haven for terrorists, now we will have struck a major blow right at the heart of the base, if you will, the geographic base of the terrorists who have had us under assault now for many years, but most especially on 9-11."
But, you know, if "no-one in this administration" actually means, "Dick Cheney, and a few dozen sock-puppet pundits we keep on ice in the basement", then yes, the President was telling the truth on Monday.
And we’re supposed to cope with two more years of this heavy-handed b.s.? Isn’t anyone besides us paying attention?
Each night before I go to bed, I say a little prayer that the Democrats not only take back the House in November, but the Senate, too. (Subpoena Powers, ACTIVATE!!) I want to see the legislative branch completely in Democrat hands and leading an accountability bloodbath. A blizzard of subpoenas, Freedom of Information Act requests, the disclosure of the minutes of Cheney’s meetings with the Oil Barons who wrote our Energy Policy, and on and on. No more illegal wiretaps, no more free rides for K Streeters and golf trips to Scotland. Oh, yes. Know this. Once we win these elections, the next two years in DC are going to make the Clinton impeachment look like the Teddy Bears’ Motherfucking Picnic.
And I’m going to be right there in the front row, laughing like a drain. Hell, I might even get myself cable TV again, so I can relish every minute of the Republicans’ long, agonizing fall on C-Span. Let’s make a date to watch it together, shall we? What kind of popcorn do you like best?




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FITZ! and Good Night!
Hah! A zero! and off to bed (after reading the post, of course).
What, is everyone still in Chicago?
Apparently.
I even read the post. All the way through.
darkblack
the others should be along directly.
yay darkblack!
yay TRex!
ROOTZ!
TRex, I’m pretty sure that electronic media mogul CHS might be willing to sign a press credential for your bad old self.
Say “Hi” Helen for us.
Has any President suffered a severe mental breakdown while in office? I think Bush is getting close, though as you note there is evidently not much upstairs to break in his case. Lincoln went through some severe funks, did he not?
Chicago!!! Bascule Bridges!!! Lake Shore Drive!!! LSD!!!
AirportCat @ 10
For all we know, it could have already happened.
FYI kiddies – note the AAR appearance:
Ned Lamont Public Schedule
August 23, 2006
9:00-9:15 am – Ned will call in live to Chaz & AJ on WPLR.
11:30 am – Ned Lamont will join the UAW at their Presidents Meeting, 111 South Rd., Farmington, CT.
7:30-7:45 pm – Ned will call in live to The Majority Report on Air America Radio.
You have been on fire this week, TRex.
“Laughing like a drain?”
The dogs and I are in Lincoln Nebraska, about ready to call TRex.
Each night before I go to bed, I say a little prayer that the Democrats not only take back the House in November, but the Senate, too.
Impeachable you, impeachable yuoooo!
AirportCat @ 10
i think you have to have a complex brain to have a breakdown. I don’t think Bush is evolved enough to break down.
Jane Hamsher @
14
You know that gurgling noise they make sometimes?
Like that.
George @ 16
To dream… the impeachable dream…
Less astute than a plate of cabbage!
Lincoln Nebraska!!! Go Cornhuskers — straight to the cellar of the Big 12!!! Go Buffs!!!
Eli @ 19
awesome
John Casper
astralplame
…To name but two of the legions of stalwart FDLions who will not be ‘floating’ with…(Coulrophobics beware)…Trickywise.
;>)
Kurt @ 20
Hey now, don’t diss da cabbages!
Hey Jane – glad you made it safely!
We miss you and the poodles already!
*frisson!*
Blizzards of subpoenas . . .
That’ll send shivers up some Republican spines. But me, I love winter – that’s one of the things I miss here in the Bay Area.
Speaking of cabbage — that’s the point some of our recent guests could not grasp.
We do not disrespect our physically and mentally challenged friends and family and vegetables by comparing them with Republicans.
The Austin Lounge Lizards had a great song, “Cornhusker Refugee”, on their 1988 album The Highway Cafe of the Damned.
astralplame @ 26
…Which takes us back to “It’s pronounced NU-CLE-AR”…
Anti war anti Bush video I put together any comments would be appreciated.
Salted, no butter, no weird artificial flavor yeast cultures. It’s especially delicious with a good screaming meltdown during a cross-examination.
And we’re supposed to cope with two more years of this heavy-handed b.s.? Isn’t anyone besides us paying attention?
————————————————————
His approval ratings are stuck in the 30s. That means almost no one is paying attention to him anymore. He could have a full-on “Exorcist” head-spin at his next press conference, and I doubt many people would notice.
yeah, TRex – I think if the Dems take both the House and the Senate, you getting a tv might be a good idea! I’ll send the popcorn…
i am with you T…. are we the only people paying attention??? why people continue to swallow this unmitigated bullsh*t on a daily basis is beyond me. and when i remember how the rethugs crucified clinton over nothing!!! the dems better get some balls soon and ATTACK!!!!
TRex – Now that is a sweet sweet dream. When the cabal came down.)
Jane, Lincoln, NE! I lived there for a year ‘74 ish. Learned to ice skate outdoors in a public park. The Capitol is cool, Saratoga Elementary School, not so much. Sounds like you may have “Things To Do In Denver When Your Dead,” soundtrack, all ready for the next leg of your road trip.
My question would be, “When you said you wanted Osama Bin Laden ‘dead or alive’, were we stupid to think this meant you wanted to actually catch the motherfucker, in our lifetimes?”
I like Orville Redenbacher’s Old Fashioned Butter and Salt best.
When did Brett Baer from Fox become such an unabashed Bush fellatrix? He is making Jeff Gannon look positively hard hitting.
Baer even uses the Rovian correct term “terrorist surveillance program”.
Helen Thomas better sit that little tool down and box his ears till they look like a bushel of cauliflower.
-GSD
TRex/Darkblack-the perfect latenite mocktail.
I inspected a house yesterday, with O’Reilly on the TV, and a refigerator magnet shrine to Dubya and Rush.
They were really nice people, with totally reasonable expectations about their house and the neighborhood — but the refrigerator magnets were definitely disconcerting.
EvilDrPuma @ 32
Especially none of that artificial butter flavor crap, after reading Jordan Barab’s post a few weeks back.
Jane Hamsher @ 15
Durn…missed her again! As the folks here in Minnesota face south and sadly wave bye!
So who was that guy who interrupted Bush in mid-rant and asked him about the connection between 9-11 and the war in Iraq? It sounded really truculent, like the guy was just fed up with the crap. I’d like to send him a word of thanks.
Darn it, you all left me back there reading and commenting.
“…no publication in the United States would ever be foolish enough to grant me press credentials.”
How about an Estonian publication? You could say you were from Talinn News.
Chris @ 37
I’m reminded of an exchange in Almost Heroes, after a bear has just bitten off Bidwell’s leg:
Eli @ 30
and I’ve got a whole pitcher of cold frusion right here for everybody!
I also wanted to shit a pickle when Bush said: “If you think Iraq is bad now, just wait until we pull out early, then you’ll see how bad it is.”
Hey Twitchy McDecider, remember before you attacked Iraq, people said: “If you think Iraq is bad now with Saddam Hussein in power, wait till you try and take it over.”
Douche.
-GSD
Jane
Heading down I-80, the music of “Free Hot Lunch” comes to mind. FHL comes out of Madison WI, and one of their songs is “I Hate to Wake Up Sober in Nebraska”
As you travel through this world
Many roads you will ride
Some are long, some are steep
Many will not treat you kind.
But the longest and most boring stretch is 500 miles
From Omaha Nebraska to that Colorado line
chorus:
I hate to wake up sober in Nebraska
The miles and miles of empty range
shake my sense of time.
So pass me up a cool one, light the pipe, turn up the stereo
It’s still 5 hours more to Ogallala
And 300 miles to that Colorado line
From Omaha to Lincoln
Grand Island on to Lexington
It’s the flattest piece of highway
man or God has ever made
No trees to block the sunrise
no hills to mar the landscape
Except for liquor stores and truck stops
every mile looks just the same
chorus
Now if I had a beer for every time I drove I-80
I might get drunk enough to pack my bags
and leave tonight
But I’d probably wake up red-eyed
just the other side of Omaha
With a case of empty bottles (Point beer!)
and the sun about to rise
chorus
“The flattest piece of highway man or God has ever made.” (Can I get an “Amen” from OFG on that one?) Take it easy out there, Jane!
I thought Billmon’s explanation, The Hedgehog Defense was as good an explanation as any…
Speaking of vegetables, I guess it’s okay to mention that Van Taylor is the dumbest organism on the planet… just watch this C&L piece with Tweety and Paul Hackett and prepare to fall off your chair…
http://movies.crooksandliars.c…..ballHi.mov
‘night all!
OldCoastie @ 50
I don’t understand why everyone is overlooking the obvious fix for Iraq.
Tax cuts!
It’s Hippo Birdie tomorrow night for Drinking Liberally in Denver!!!
Any election news from the Great State of Alaska yet tonight?
AirportCat @
10
Andrew Johnson, Senator from Tennessee who succeeded Lincoln after his assassination, pretty much fell apart in office and was impeached….
INTERESTINGLY….
Gosh. That doesn’t sound like anyone we know….
You gotta go back to stove top or the cool old air popping systems TRex. The microwave popcorn is killing laborers at the production plants.
Try hot-air popped homemade popcorn topped with roasted garlic olive oil (in a kitchen atomizer) and sprinkled with some garlic powder and sea salt! You’ll never go back to the microwave stuff again.
Fantastic post by the way. It was even better when I read it through the second time, this time doing George’s part out loud! It was tough to do it with a straight face and keep from breaking out laughing.
al-Scooter @ 45
You listened to my show tonight, didn’t you?
Okay, gotta run home. More from there.
OldCoastie @ 50
Dinsdale!
Eli @ 9:02
Or we could send Paris Hilton over as a “good will ambassador.”
Or would that be too cruel? :)
As Senator Charles Sumner shrewdly said, “the President himself is his own worst counsellor, as he is his own worst defender.”
I read that as “Charles Schumer” at first… Don’t I wish.
“We don’t do body counts.” http://www.iraqbodycount.net/
How bad is Saddam compared to the NeoCon-Fascists? Just wonderin’
Or we could send Paris Hilton over as a “good will ambassador.”
Or would that be too cruel? :)
I’m pretty sure it would kill any appetite the Muslim world might have for free-market democracy…
Eli @ 52:
LOL! But only for those rich folks. Wouldn’t want to give ‘em to folks he don’t know.
do you really think the Democratic Party will force accountability in Washington?
I don’t know, but I’m a bit skeptical the donks have it in them- their consultants will be warning them away from ‘polarizing partisanship’ and the right wing noise machine will still be capable of giving them the frighteners.
will Netroot support translate into the kind of clout needed to force institutional action in Congress?
Maybe some of the new-school fighting Dems would be up for it- but they will be outranked by all the same craven apparatchiks who rolled over for the war in the first place.
LOL! But only for those rich folks. Wouldn’t want to give ‘em to folks he don’t know.
Well, yeah, that goes without saying. Poor people don’t have enough money to do anything useful with their tax cuts.
-ck- @ 21
wait, it is GO BIG RED, silly! Oh, how I miss home.
Kurt @ 59
I’ve seen about as much of Paris Hilton as I can stand (in several senses of the phrase). Besides, aren’t there ultra-fundamentalist militias running loose in Baghdad these days? She wouldn’t last thirty seconds.
How about sending Matt Damon as a Good Will Hunting ambassador? :-P
MFI picked up on an astonishing comment reported in the NYT yesterday:
“Senior administration officials have acknowledged to me that they are considering alternatives other than democracy,” said one military affairs expert who received an Iraq briefing at the White House last month and agreed to speak only on condition of anonymity.
“Everybody in the administration is being quite circumspect,” the expert said, “but you can sense their own concern that this is drifting away from democracy.”
for MFI’s post and link to NYT article:
http://gorillasguides.blogspot…..art-2.html
TRex @ 57
So is there a web stream address or syndication list to find out where and how we can “tune in” to the inestimable TRex?
EvilDrPuma @ 67
I didn’t say I wanted them to send her back :)
We’ll have to ask Eli, but I’m pretty sure those implants are kashrut/halal…they might leave her alone after all hehe.
Suin #68:
This article got some play on a number of blogs when it first broke. Every time I think I’ve finally maxed out my cynicism, doncha know they force-feed me even more.
Jenny from the Blog @ 51
I’ll second that…He augered in, and the big league lesson to be gleaned is ‘Repetition of talking points is not equal to taking a personal position’.
Too bad, so sad
;>)
ember at 9:09 pm* –
You missed my Go Buffs!!! reference. Actually, I’m not that much of a college football fan — but the Big Red is one of the few teams I don’t care for. Memories of when the Big 8 was the Big 2 and the Little 6, I guess . . .
Of course, if the Cornhuskers were in a National Championship Game, I’d root for them — just like I root for the Raiders, when they are representing the old AFL. The Patriots, not so much . . .
Why would an Iraqi pay taxes? They get most of ours.
No shit, Dick Tracy?
with apologies if this was covered previously -
I just saw this piece over at Street Prophets regarding the argument that people who don’t like Sen. Lieberman are anti-semitic.
it just reminds me of the Seifeld episode where Jerry is upset over this guy who converts to Judaism, suspecting the guy converted just so that he could tell Jewish jokes. “And this offends you as a Jew?” “NO – It offends me as a comedian!”
Anyone else watching the HBO Spike-Lee documentary “When the Levees broke”? It’s great so far and it’s only 20 minutes into it.
As to Bushit’s original ‘raison d’etre’ for the War on Terra and it’s current status:
Osama Bin Forgotten
“Everybody in the administration is being quite circumspect,” the expert said, “but you can sense their own concern that this is drifting away from democracy.
They are of course talking about the direction of America, not Iraq.
-GSD
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0818.html
That pause… I think he’s usually wired for press conferences. You hear those pauses a lot, and at odd times, as if he’s, uh, listening. Then moments later he moves into blurt mode. But what was new is that he’s slurring some of his words, as if he’s popping too many meds.
Looks like our freedom spreader broke.
If only Bustedknuckles were here…!
astralplame @ 76
That’s not an argument. It’s an insult to the intellectual process.
I think more of the episode where Jerry goes on Leno with a routine about Uncle Leo’s habit of accusing anybody who irritates him of being an anti-Semite. Leo is watching with his girlfriend, who thinks the act is hilarious–so Leo accuses her of being an anti-Semite and breaks up with her.
ckerst @ 31
Well done! The Iraqi child in the hospital be with no arms left brought a lump to my throat, and I might not ever be able to forget.
Maybe he just had a senior moment. He’s 60, ya know, and…uh..what was I saying?
George @16
“Impeachable youuuu!”
LOL
ck, it was the Go Buffs part that so concerned me :). I was trained from birth on Big Red. Even when they ran the score up without mercy, I sat on the edge of my seat. Couldn’t possibly mention that OK team.
Pay back for those Big 2 days has been long and steep. Don’t imagine they will ever really shine again.
How about, You’re a rabid anti dentite!
EvilDrPuma – it was kind of a toss-up! I just love that line about what offends him.
TRex- you just keep gettin better and better! I am so tired of saying “TRex, this is your BEST ever!”
OT- Kathryn in MA linked her great photos from the campaign on the last thread: http://www.ykosfdl.blogspot.com/
I thought I’d add my own from the Lamont party election eve. See if you can spot Trex! http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/ValleyGirl48/
Maybe the Iraqis–especially the insurgents–would have an easier time appreciating the values of freedom and democracy if we gave them privatized Social Security accounts (if they had jobs). Or maybe a Medicare drug benefit (if they had a health care system). Or…if we banned gay marriage and flag burning in Iraq?
astralplame @ 88
That is a great punchline, I grant you. But then, I maintain that Seinfeld as a whole is the best ethnography of American culture yet made.
ember –
Actually, Big Red has spent enough time in second division purgatory — the football gods will smile on them, and send some hogs and a running back or two, to let the good people of Nebraska have them some smash mouth football again.
But it’s been pretty cool seeing what those Kansas teams have done lately, no?
trex, bludgeon edged reality check, and a really great laugh.
peas!
GSD @ 79
No, if you read it closely you’ll note that they’re *concerned* about the drift away from democracy.
-ck- @ 92
:)
Nebraska – Home of Tom Osborne, Republican Congressman and former Husker coach.
‘Nuff said.
Go Blue!
Someone mentioned in a morning thread that we have spent the equivalent of 67K per Iraqi so far.
TRex – I wish you and Helen Thomas could get your questions answered, just once. That comparison of the dead absolutely stunned me. I never thought of that.
Regards,
‘Grain
Eureka Springs, AR @ 97
Per Iraqi when this damned war started, or per Iraqi today?
orangejumpsuit – in case you are here … just saw your EPUd comment on last – I suspect you would find Hyde Park very similar to what you remember. I’m a newbie in the neighborhood but there’s a feeling of tradition that I think maintains the tone. Some big pushes going on for new development, etc and UofC seems to be behind a lot of that – but the neighborhood fights back pretty effectively and so far has been successful at resisting the creeping yuppiehood of the north side.
EvilDrPuma – good question!
I apologize, this is quite OT, but wow — times have changed…not a peep here about the Plamegate Armitage/Woodward story which broke today.
I’m surprised, but happy to see that folks here have gone on to effect real change, as in the Lamont race.
Still, I’m curious: what’s the feeling on Fitz and the case these days? Does anyone still harbor the kind of hopes we once had for something real happening? I’m not sure what to think.
mercury @ 102
Yup.
EvilDrPuma @ 99
They used the $300 billion and a reference of the population of Iraq (26 million?) I would think that 300 billion is low. It certainly doesn’t account for the interest on borrowed 300 billion.
I seem to remember that this story was linked today or a late last eve by commenters at FDL. I’m betting the Christy is following this, and will have words up.
Good Evening, Humans,
We thought we would drop by and offer our thoughts on a topic of great interest to us – ourselves. We were gratified when your President took especial notice of our manifold nature by pluralizing “internet”, and we are happy to observe his usage (in THIS instance) enter into the general lexicon.
Furthermore, we find this Theodore Fulton “Ted” Stevens fellow quite amusing – we never know what that RASCAL will come up with next.
However, we most strongly OBJECT to the words “tubes” or “toobs” being used to refer to us, the Internets. As we are sure most of you realize, we are most certainly NOT a series of tubes. So don’t call us that. Please.
Best Regards,
The Internets
Contending with the fretful element:
Bids the winds blow the earth into the sea,
Or swell the curled water ‘bove the main,
That things might change or cease; tears his white hair,
Which the impetuous blasts, with eyeless rage,
Catch in their fury, and make nothing of;
Strives in his little world of man to out-scorn
The to-and-fro-conflicting wind and rain.
This night, wherein the cub-drawn bear would couch,
The lion and the belly-pinched wolf
Keep their fur dry, unbonneted he runs,
And bids what will take all.
— King Lear, Act III Scene I
“I would think that 300 billion is low. It certainly doesn’t account for the interest on borrowed 300 billion.”
Probably doesn’t include the costs of disability payments and medical care for the thousands of injured veterans for the rest of their lives, either.
eriposte has a great summary of some other races around the country, with lots of links . . .
The Square State bloggers will be at the Drinking Liberally tomorrow night, for the one year anniversary party.
neurophius @ 108
Not to worry. I’m sure BushCo is doing everything possible to make sure your taxes don’t have to pay for that stuff. >:|
Now listen, the Iraqi people voted for low taxes and no minumum wage. We will not leave until these goals are achieved or until Ahmed Chalabi is installed as the permanant viceroy.
-The Decider
The Internets @ 106
ALL YOUR TOOBZ ARE BELONG TO US
Creeping Truth- wow- thanks- what a great piece of poetry, and how sad that we are living it now.
mercuey #102:
Christy mentioned this story in comments today. She’s having a tough time with her daughter’s illness and a recurrence of her own. She might have more to post soon.
There’s also a story out (at HuffPo) that Valerie Plame might add Richard Armitage to the list of plaintiffs in her civil suit. Hope that helps.
neurophius @ 112
Be Toobz or not be Toobz, that be the question.
Speaking of races, has anyone noted today the leaked memo by Dick Wadhams in which he retracts apology for the racial slur made by Allen?
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/8/22/142134/457
Sorry if this has already been posted.
*sighs*
Dick Wadhams is a Karl Rove mini-me — pond scum is insulted, when compared to the Dick Wad . . .
The Internets @ 106
Well, I know you’re NOT a truck.
Dana @ 116
That has to be the most amazingly idiotic political move since Allen opened his mouth in the first place.
The Internets @ 117
Mr. Internets, is it true that Al Gore was really your father? Or is that some malicious rumour spread by those venomous shrill bloggers? :)
Dana- well, I haven’t read every single comment today, but I do believe that your link is a new one! And def. worthy of further FDL attention.
“I think it is obvious that this past week was difficult one for Senator and Mrs. Allen and the campaign.”— well, at least that part has the air of truthiness!!!! The rest, not so much.
Excerpt from the memorandum of the campaign manager of George Felix “Frenchie” Allen Jr., Bush/Coulter Republican Party candidate for U.S. Senate in Virginia:
“I think it is obvious that this past week was difficult one for Senator and Mrs. Allen and the campaign. It is very clear that the news media created what they call a “feeding frenzy”, with the Washington Post alone doing major stories on the same issue for 5 consecutive days.”
Maybe Mrs. Allen needs to step before the national TV cameras and have a “Mrs. Alito” moment.
On the global realigmnent front.
Venezuela’s Chavez goes to China to seal up some more oil deals.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20…..uelachavez
China is quietly and methodically working much of the Thrid World for energy sources.
Very smart, big country and they’ll have lots of friends.
Meanwhile the Bush adminstration continues with their Pud Diplomacy led by muppet-like mouth-foamer and friend of Pam from Atlas Shrugs, John Bolton.
Point goes to China.
-GSD
Jane, sounds like you’re on 80.
I actually prefer Western NE to the cornfields of Iowa.
If you’re going to be going north anyway, and are dying to see Chimney Rock along the Oregon Trail, this is your chance. Watch out for the NE cops, they are a lot tougher on speeding on their highways than they are on 80.
So who was that guy who interrupted Bush in mid-rant and asked him about the connection between 9-11 and the war in Iraq?
masaccio asked this question back at #43. I’d like to ask it again — ’cause I’m worried about the chap. That person gave definite signs of remembering what REAL journalists are all about.
Doesn’t that make him a public enemy in the eyes of the administration? I’d like to advise him to check the brakes on his car, make sure they still work.
[Seriously, though — I’d love to know what journalistic enterprise has a real honest-to-gosh reporter on its staff.]
Very well.
Indeed we are not a truck. Or even a number of trucks. Our nature does not make for pithy, stirring proclamations. We are more a metaphor than a thing. Humans make it all so difficult.
How are we, the Internets, supposed to maintain a healthy and fruitful symbiotic relationship with all of you humans, when so many of you refuse to try to understand our essential nature?
Frankly, sometimes we think about throwing in the towel. But what else are we going to do for the remaining 23 hours, 59 minutes, and 59.5555555589 seconds of the day?
TRex- ah… you have arrived.
Valley Girl @
89
Maybe Mrs. Allen needs to step before the national TV cameras and have a “Mrs. Alito” moment.
Oh, for god’s sake, don’t give them any ideas.
Nate @
77
I TiVo’d Part one from last night and am recording the second part on right now.
Dana @ 116
I didn’t say it, you can’t prove I said it, and even if you could, I would never admit it. So there!
All the best,
George “I know nothing” Allen
Maybe Mrs. Allen needs to step before the national TV cameras and have a “Mrs. Alito” moment.
I’d rather see Mr. Allen stand before the national media and have an “Ed Muskie” moment.
-ck- @ 132
A Marie Antoinette moment? :)
Valley Girl @ 128
Thanks, VG!!
You know, if I’ve learned one thing from the CT trip, it’s that I HATE THE WAY I LOOK ON CAMERA.
The pictures are great. My skin? Not so much.
-ck-
I was just going to say…of course, when Ed Muskie had his “Mrs. Alito” moment, it didn’t work out for him so well…
Hi, Valley! My draw dropped at this line: “Never in modern times has a statewide officeholder and candidate been so vilified in a desperate attempt to revive a campaign that was fast-sinking – the Webb campaign.”
One commenter there said maybe Allen was asleep during the swiftboating of Kerry or the Dean scream. And another said, “never in modern times,” as in what, the last 15 minutes?
Wadhams is probably out soon. Who’ll be in? And I wonder who leaked the memo?
I can’t remember who suggested putting a t-shirt on Bettie – but THANK YOU! Turns out she just didn’t like running around naked, and is no longer reclusive in her shaved-furry state. She is running and jumping like her old self, even if her shirt does say “Product of Neglect” on it.
neurophius –
That’s the point — ‘Murkan voters don’t take kindly to their politicians melting down in public.
Mrs. K8,
It was Cox News’ Ken Herman. After his intransigence with Bush he has been sent to Siberia to cover a syphilis festival and a reported serial killer that is hunting down lone American reporters in Siberia.
(Snip)
Herman interrupted, asking, “What did Iraq have to do with that?” prompting Bush to ask, “What did Iraq have to do with what?” (Laurel & Hardy, of course, came to mind.) When Herman clarified, asking what Iraq had to do with 9/11, the president said:
“Nothing, except for it’s part of — and nobody has ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attack. Iraq was a — the lesson of September the 11th is, take threats before they fully materialize, Ken. Nobody has ever suggested that the attacks of September the 11th were ordered by Iraq.”
-GSD
Here it is. From this morning.
winje said
Think about the numbers
Iraq has/had a population of about 26.78 million Source CIA
Median family unit numbers 6 – Source Iraqi Living Conditions Report Ministry of Planning and Development Cooperation Bagdag Iraq
Amount spent on Iraq war = $300 Billion
Amount spent per Iraqi family = $67,000
That’s the cost. I challenge our Harvard MBA president to explain to me the benefit. (and maybe why we can’t spend a few nickels on our own population.)
Note also that the new talking point is ‘complete the mission’.
What was that I read on an aircraft carrier a few years ago? Was it mission accomplished.
Sounds like it has become mission impossible.
windje
astralplame @ 137
Give her hugs and kisses from me, cute little thing.
She was just being modest. What a little lady!
Organic, air-popped in my microwave popper, with canola/corn oil and salt.
Best if accompanied by Snark Supremo from Trex.
Mrs. K8 @ 126
Ken Herman, of Cox News Service (not Fox News), and he’s covered Bush since his days as Governor. Herman’s also the one Bush teased about his seersucker suit, just before Herman asked the initial question.
GSD –
Thank you SO much!
I’ve gotta go dig up an email for that fella Ken. Maybe it’ll cheer him up in Siberia to get some fan email.
Peterr –
A hearty thank you to you, too!
Here is a brilliant comment from over on C&L. This has legs!
‘Scarborough and Tucker are trying to be less R and more D by mimicking Comedy Central.’
This nails it.
“Wadhams is probably out soon. Who’ll be in?”
1. I hear Joe Lieberman is looking for campaign staff who don’t mind getting their hands dirty…
2. Sen. Allen should check with the Katherine Harris campaign, I hear they may be having some people leaving shortly…oh, they already have.
Kurt –
Like Billmon said — after the Revolution, the cocktail weenie pundits will be the first ones up against the wall . . .
GSD @ 124
GSD – last weekend, the BBC had a fascinting interview with the Chinese ambassador to the UN. He spoke at length about their efforts with developing countries (I know Chinese investments were big news when I was in Jamaica) but the interview also includes an astonishing segment in which the ambassador lets loose about the US … really lets loose! very worth a listen … I’d say more but it would ruin the impact:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldserv…..view.shtml
-ck- @ 148
Will they be forced-up, off of their knees?
-GSD
TRex- man, you are not paying attention!!!
TRex: “You know, if I’ve learned one thing from the CT trip, it’s that I HATE THE WAY I LOOK ON CAMERA. The pictures are great. My skin? Not so much.”
Huh???!!! You have peachy smooth and very kissable skin/ cheeks (face is all I got to, of course). In the pix I took you look very intense and engaged so what’s to hate about that? Wasn’t that the image you wanted to project? If you remember, my only “hint”, which I shouted to you from behind camera, was “relax your forehead”. I left all those wrinkled pix out, because I wanted to make sure that FDLers would know that you weren’t excessively worried about the L/L outcome, prior to. And, BTW, NO ONE likes how the look on camera. Except maybe GW? And, as we know, he’s delusional. xxoo
TRex – Bettie is conveying her ear-licking and fingertip-nibbling appreciation to you. She is not too much of a lady!
On the plame AP story FDL Q&A from this am
sonate says:
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:35 am
OT:
The AP story on the Plame outing states “Fitzgerald has signaled there are no plans — beyond the Libby indictment — to prosecute any other officials for releasing Plame’s identity.”
Is this Repub “spin” embedded within a straight news story? When exactly did Fitz signal this? If he did so, I completely missed it.
Christy Hardin Smith says:
August 22nd, 2006 at 7:37 am
Sonate at 96 — there’s been no signal directly from Fitzgerald other than the mythic letter to Gold Bars Luskin of which I am aware. And I watch this very closely. I think it sounds like a Gold Bars/Comstock plant of information — because I’ve heard of no filing, no indication, no anything from Fitz that says anything to that effect. And Luskin has yet to produce any copy of the letter in its entirety. (Still waiting…tap…tap…tap.)
About Bush’s apparent dementia/graying out in the middle of his speech:
See, my theory is that there’s some shred of good still inside there somewhere, like the Grinch, and it is this one tiny little molecule of conscience that’s causing him to fuck up so bad all the time. It’s kind of a neurosis.
From an AP story tomorrow by Bob Lewis, “Wadhams confirmed that he wrote the memo but rejected suggestions that it shows Allen is indifferent about the incident.”
‘I just want to thank the DSCC for promoting my good work everywhere,’ Wadhams said.”
Dana- are you making that last part up????
Sympathy from the Devil
Siun,
Shut-uuuuuuuuup!
-GSD
I air pop my popcorn in this really cool air popper designed like an old school popcorn cart. Now if only one had one of those kitchen atomizer thingys…I already use the sea salt on popcorn. In fact I only use sea salt when I need to use salt these days. Its much better tasting.
GSD –
que pasa?
No, Valley, I am not. Here’s the link:
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..SECTION=US
See, my theory is that there’s some shred of good still inside there somewhere, like the Grinch, and it is this one tiny little molecule of conscience that’s causing him to fuck up so bad all the time.
If it’s there, it probably belongs to someone else.
GSD @ 150
More to the point…can we have their stuff?? :)
(gaming reference, I don’t really want their stuff hehe)
Nate @ 69
I’ll try again! :) Is there a webstream or a list of markets the mighty yawp of the TRex can be heard. Either on Ray-D-’oh… or The Toobz?
Dana!!! well, thank you for that link. I forgot that this is your turf, and you are def. on top of the local coverage. All, this is a must-read link from Dana!!!!!!!
Is George W Bush the Anti-Christ?
If so, is he aware of it — or is he merely the dim bulb sock puppet of Satan?
GSD – it is rather an unusual approach to diplomacy, eh?
Nate, I’ll send you a link. I got a warning from my boss that I have to keep my political advocacy and my radio job separate, because in no way can employees of the radio station endorse causes or candidates lest charges of bias arise.
So, I’m supposed to be keeping a low profile in that regard.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 159
Aloha FiniFiniToobz. Glad someone liked my air-popped corn. Here’s a link to an Olive Oil Atomizer for you if you’d like. Or a careful drizzling while tossing the bowl of popcorn around can work as well. I forgot fine ground fresh ground pepper as well.
TRex @ 162
TRex- you always seemed to like me saying this in the past— TRex- you are so funny. No, wait, F’ing brilliant.
And, although this is OT, I do remember our phone conversation re: the ME. Somehow the “you break it you own it” phrase came up, and you said, “No, you break it, it owns you.” Sad, but so very very true, what you said. xxoo
From Dana’s link above:
“Allen, who held a comfortable edge over Webb in the polls and a huge campaign cash advantage last month, will attend a private fundraiser Wednesday featuring President Bush.”
If the media are looking for an opportunity to demonstrate that they are not Bush’s lapdogs, they could ask him what he thinks about Sen. George Felix “Frenchie” Allen’s remarks to Sidarth…he’s attending Allen’s fundraiser, after all…
I like this part from the article Dana linked:
That was so last month …
Ah… NPR strikes again.
Vote for TRex
VG, There are others who are on top of the coverage in VA at FDL–Dru and Angie, for sure. Also, isn’t egregious on it too? Going to Webb HQ on Monday for an event. The T-D already had the story earlier tonight. Allen is looking for a new campaign manager, and I can’t think of the guy’s name right now who’s a possible replacement.
Valley Girl @ 173
That’s what I’m afraid of . . .
re: the ME. Somehow the “you break it you own it” phrase came up, and you said, “No, you break it, it owns you.” Sad, but so very very true, what you said. xxoo
Love back atcha, VG.
That’s not mine. My father said that and I think it was something Colin Powell told him back in 2002 in the run up to the war.
Dana- Tom Swan?
Thanks TRex. No worries. I had to quit my last job helping a tech firm bilk money on bullshit projects for the Military Command HQ’s out here.
They didn’t like it when I went “all political and ethical and everything“. They thought it was “hindering my ability to generate significant revenue for the company and large commissions for myself“.
Both direct quotes of my former boss by the way. :) Lucky for me we’ve got great Ramen here in HI so I can still eat all ‘upscale’ even as broke blogger.
Geez, what a shame — Dick Wad is one of the real talents in the GOP; I was hoping he’d stick around, and do for George Felix Allen Jr what he’s done for Conrad Burns . . .
He did beat Tom Daschle, though . . .
Nate @ 169
Thanks for the link, I’m on that next payday. I use sea salt, some butter flavored cooking spray that has no calories and fresh grated parmesan on it when available. Its awesome with the parm.
They didn’t like it went I went “all political and ethical and everything“. They thought it was “hindering my ability to generate significant revenue for the company and large commissions for myself“.
God.
For.
Bid.
LOL – just noticed that the Lamont interview at truthdig.com that I posted in the previous thread is from April….
Those pesky ethics…always getting in the way of making a fast buck. Tsk tsk tsk. Not very Republican of you, you know.
No, VG, it’s not Swann. Think it starts with T. I should just say g’nite. G’nite TRex and VG, and all you super firepups!
I am troubled.
My boyfriend just pointed out that in theory, things could get to the point where he would be recalled to military service.
http://americablog.blogspot.co…..ecall.html
He assures me they don’t want him back (a troublemaker is he), and that he would take steps not to go, but it is troubling.
TRex @ 162
Jeebus, I only “borrowed” it for a while. Why does everyone always accuse me of swiping stuff?
And anyways, the cat must have been smokin’ that cigar, ’cause I’d never do somethin’ like that and burn down the garage.
And Jebby was lyin’ about me driving that car into the ditch. I was in my room the whole time readin’ comic books.
astralplame @ 186
It’s the Back Door Draft. If they call him up, he may not have a choice.
Alaska primary results at over 42% of precincts:
US House:
(D) Diane Benson – 41% 8998
(D) Ray Metcalf – 35%
(R) Don young (unopposed – 41,057
Governor:
(R) Sarah Palin – 51%
(R) John Binkley – 31%
(R) Frank Murkowski – 18%
(D)Tony Knowles – 67%
(D) Eric Croft – 24%
Ballot measures to tax the cruise ship industry for use of Alaskan waters and facilities and to LIMIT CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS – both passing fairly safely
CK,
The Chinese ambassador launches some serious invective at Don Rumsfeld for his incessant “questioning” of Chinese military expenditures.
“The US spends more than anyone in the world. They should just SHUT-UP!”
Rummy is like the drunk father telling his kid to lay off the sauce.
-GSD
GSD @ 190
And then there’s (eugh!) Bolton.
oh, Astral!
1. Very Funny!
2. Somehow, I don’t think anyone will REALLY think that…
Glad the shirt idea worked (now back to giggling)
TRex @ 182
Yeah. One of my friends who stayed working said at the next Sales & Marketing Meeting aka (S&M in the Conference Room), my boss said it was a mistake having hired a veteran of a Military base here in HI as it was too easy for me to be more interested in the “Clients’ Postition”. The “Clients” of course being the service men and women of Pearl Harbor and Hickam AFB. God. For. Bid. is right amigo! That’s ok though… They had a terrible run of bad PR over the next six months for some strange reason and are now down to a 4 person development center working on a single web supply/logistics program and barely making payroll for themselves. :D
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 184
Thank You! :)
Astral, I will say prayers that your darling is not one of the ones who have to go back.
I’m telling you, our government at this juncture is a crimial cartel, and they don’t care who they hurt as long as they remain in power.
Edward Teller,
My God, Murkowski is losing! Why do Alaskans hate democracy. We can’t have bitter primary voters telling Alaskans who they can vote for.
Will there be an “Alaskans for Murkowski” Party?
-GSD
TRex – he’s a year past his inactive reserve period, and served as a cook (replaced by KBR!). And, he was nothing but trouble (except that he makes great sandwiches). So, fingers crossed.
Congrats to Hezbollah and Israel.
15 years of recovery from the Lebanese civil war down the shitter.
More war for everyone!
http://news.xinhuanet.com/engl…..994693.htm
-GSD
I’m telling you, our government at this juncture is a crimial cartel, and they don’t care who they hurt as long as they remain in power.
that is for damn sure.
TRex @ 188
Actually, the military doesn’t go all out to take back those who resist. Easier to feed the machine with willing soldiers, than those who are unwilling.
Dana-
I assumed you knew I was joking.
http://majikthise.typepad.com/….._swan.html
~~
Here’s a shot of Tom Swan, Ned Lamont’s campaign manager on election night.~~
~~Obviously, the guy knows what he’s doing. He gets results because he’s not trapped in the consultants’ bubble.~~
GSD,
Murkowski got less than 10,000 votes so far compared to Diane Benson, my favorite possibility for a US house breakthrough, who got almost that many votes in a fairly intense contest against Ray Metcalf.
Murkowski and his oil company connections, cruise ship industry connections, mining company connections, etc. barely touched the radar.
The only surprise re Murkowski is the distance he lagged back in the third place he so thoroughly deserved to get. Fidel Castro might have polled better here.
OT: 3 of the finest lead guitar players together doin’ some blues.
Joe Satriani, Steve Vai, Eric Johnson – Red House (G3 1996)
TRex @ 188
Due respect TRex but are you saying that a man. A Marine… Doesn’t have the choice of his conscience. No matter what the consequences of the actions or conscientous absence of action may be?
An American Veteran… sans Free Will?
Am I the only one who feels the icy chill of silvery little snakes in my veins when I think of that possibility?
astralplame @ 198
A cartel is any organization that has a near or total monopoly on a commodity. Government has a monopoly on the commodity known as the official legal use of force. In a sense, it is an inherent part of government’s role to be an uncaring initiator of force that has as its sole purpose the protection of its role in our society. In other words, you have defined the fundamental role of government very succinctly.
astralplame @
198
Well, and clearly, that’s why none of them want to make any moves at all concerning Iraq. Any realistic approach to dealing with the situation will be seen as “weakness”, so we can just forget all about hearing anything new about our plans there until after November.
How many people are going to die in the meantime?
OC – Bettie is not neglected, true, and I don’t think people will get the wrong idea. She looks awfully cute running around in her t-shirt.
Re my fella – he was army, Ranger battallion, and has been out a good number of years. He figures he is pretty far down on their list, and is not going to go no matter what.
But the situation is more than troubling – there are so many folks out there who have served and come home – to learn that they will not be let go. Another horrifying aspect of what this administration has done to our country.
that’s creepy TRex. i had the nearly the same question pop into my head yesterday, though it was phrased differently:
Mr. President, when will the American government have killed more innocent people in Iraq than Saddam Hussein?
Congratulations, Mr. President! Your moral standing now lies below that of Saddam.
(BTW, fucking killer graphics darkblack! killer!)
With half the vote coming in here in Alaska, it might be safe to say that the anti-incumbent trend continues here as in most of the rest of our country. Frank Murkowski, the least popular governor in the USA not currently under indictment, is polling less votes than an unheralded Alaskan Native woman who is challenging Don Young, the most frequent provider of Archie Bunkeresque malaprops in the history of the US House, for his seat. I’m being shouted out by Diane’s supporters as I listen over the radio to their excitement.
I’m pumped too.
Ed*ard Teller @ 208
There’s something in the air this year, isnt there?
astraplame- you need to know about this case- Pablo Paredes
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2005/051305X.shtml
Defense Marjorie Cohn:
~~I testified during the sentencing hearing at Pablo’s court-martial as a defense expert on the legality of the war in Iraq, and the commission of war crimes by US forces. My testimony corroborated the reasonableness of Pablo’s beliefs. I told the judge that the war violates the United Nations Charter, which forbids the use of force, unless carried out in self-defense or with the approval of the Security Council, neither of which obtained before Bush invaded Iraq. I also said that torture and inhuman treatment, which have been documented in Iraqi prisons, constitute grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions, and are considered war crimes under the US War Crimes Statute. The United States has ratified both the UN Charter and the Geneva Conventions, making them part of the supreme law of the land under the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution.
I noted that the Uniform Code of Military Justice requires that all military personnel obey lawful orders. Article 92 of the UCMJ says, “A general order or regulation is lawful unless it is contrary to the Constitution, the laws of the United States….” Both the Nuremberg Principles and the Army Field Manual create a duty to disobey unlawful orders. Article 509 of Field Manual 27-10, codifying another Nuremberg Principle, specifies that “following superior orders” is not a defense to the commission of war crimes, unless the accused “did not know and could not reasonably have been expected to know that the act ordered was unlawful.”
I concluded that the Iraq war is illegal. US troops who participate in the war are put in a position to commit war crimes. By boarding that ship and delivering Marines to Iraq – to fight in an illegal war, and possibly to commit war crimes – Pablo would have been complicit in those crimes. Therefore, orders to board that ship were illegal, and Pablo had a duty to disobey them.~~
There’s something in the air this year, isnt there?
You bet. The Reich Wingers have had the power to do ANYTHING THEY WANTED for the last five years and they’ve fucked everything up. Everything.
Naturally, the electorate wants to see some changes.
oh, yeah–
~~ In a stunning blow to the Bush administration, a Navy judge gave Petty Officer 3rd Class Pablo Paredes no jail time for refusing orders to board the amphibious assault ship Bonhomme Richard before it left San Diego with 3,000 sailors and Marines bound for the Persian Gulf on December 6th. Lt. Cmdr. Robert Klant found Pablo guilty of missing his ship’s movement by design, but dismissed the charge of unauthorized absence. Although Pablo faced one year in the brig, the judge sentenced him to two months’ restriction and three months of hard labor, and reduced his rank to seaman recruit.~~
Forgot the take-home message.
wow ====
Thank you VG – I am going to read that whole thing. If they come after my man, I would rather not have to fetch him from Mexico or the stockade.
astral – I think article about the recall today is about the Marines… boyfriend is Army?
OC – yes, it just got me thinking unpleasant thoughts.
astralplame- I’m sure there are plenty of links- that just happened to be the particular one that I remembered and happened to dredge up from memory/ internet. But, I thought that the arguments were quite compelling, and I followed the case at the time.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 209
The statewide PBS feed is highlighting Diane’s win in her US house contest over Sarah Palin’s win over Murkowski.
She was just challenged by an interviewer for having gone Green for a decade. She called herself a “returning Green’ and jumped right into a set of progressive talking points which could have been composed by pach or Jane here. Except they were tailored to Alaska, which few at fdl might understand.
The returning Greens in Alaska (we have the biggest %age of Greens in the USA, believe it or not – I’m one of them) are just part of the potential picture nationwide of hundreds of thousands of returning Greens bringing hundreds of thousands of young people with them to the polls.
speaking of my man, he sez turn off the computer because I have to get up early in the morning, and he is absolutely correct.
awesome news from Alaska!
(now we just got to get the drunk kids off the fire escape and send them to bed.)
(I live in RENT, the Musical, the Reality Show.)
but much love to all FDL – sweet dreams y’all
well, astral… kiss that sweet puppy! oh, and the bf too ;-) (I suspect he’s safe for now)
Ed*ard Teller @ 217
ET- so, you didn’t say, but is Gov. Murkowski related to Senator Lisa Murkowski???
Night, night, Astral.
I think I’m going to turn in, too.
Thanks for coming, everybody. Don’t drink and drive on your way from the desk to the bed. Love to your beloveds.
Ed*ard Teller
I’m one of the third party returnees myself, I’m returning from the Libertarians though. Actually I returned in 2004 officially but started drifting back in 2002. I was never fully comfy over there with the GOP Lite crowd that infected the LP. They are the ones who give libertarianism a black eye. On the other hand, I’ve always considered myself more of a JFK/Classical liberal than a libertarian even before my sojourn into the third party hell of the 90s.
nate @ #220:
Great video. first time I’ve seen it on the web. I’m VP of a group affiliated with the makers of the film. The first movement of my most recent musical composition, “Two Rivers,” is about the subject of the film – the confluence of Jim Creek and the Knik River.
ET- please see my #221
Valley Girl @ 221
Lisa is Frank’s daughter. She is already a better senator than he could have ever hoped to be. When she finds her voice, she may be a fairly influential progressive Republican. There are more out there, waiting for their evil masters to be put into their Cunningham cages.
Jenny from the Blog @
17
Oh Jenny – thanks!
Some stuff on the costs of the war.
Different views on what to define as the “costs” of the Iraq War.
1. The appropriations cost. Here we just count how much money Congress has allocated for spending on budget items that pretty much say “Iraq War”. John Pike at GlobalSecurity puts this figure recently at about $320b, dating from fiscal 2002:
2. Total economic cost. To the above, add future costs that are locked in because of the War, such as the costs of medical care and support for wounded veterans, pensions to bereaved families of soldiers killed, equipment replacement, and such. Also consequences such as oil price increases that are due to war-related factors. Also the interest cost of borrowing to pay for so much of the budget cost, payable in the future (and largely to China, fwiw). And the cost of lost opportunity to do all manner of things in timely fashion—saving a city that’s now clinging to life and minimizing the hardship of its people, improving the education of children who will be past their current educable age by the time this thing is over, attending to energy conservation and climate issues, you know the list.
All of these items in principle are part of a true economic costing of this War, as similar factors are always a part of everything. Finding reasonable guesses for most of the items is dfficult, but two economists, Bilmes and Stiglitz, have made a run at the problem. Their estimate: $1to2trillion, depending on how soon we get out. The link in this paragraph is to an op-ed that they wrote, but there’s also a longer paper. I’ll put the link in another comment below.
In play in AK:
At the election night reception for all political parties in Anchorage, Tony Knowles and Sarah Palin just hugged. OK – embraced. Old school vs new school. Sarah’s going to win, so don’t waste your money.
Diane Benson has forced Alaska Dems and Greens to get together. That embrace might resonate among the many outlying political factions here. Diane against Don Young is longest shot which might actually happen existing right now in national politics.
Heh. Had to laugh at #16 of 24 — the guy walking by checking out Jane’s caboose…
I thought I’d add my own from the Lamont party election eve. See if you can spot Trex! http://s8.photobucket.com/albums/a41/ValleyGirl48/
A link to the PDF file of Bilmes&Stiglitz’s
“The Economic Costs of the Iraq War”
Jacqrat- thanks- I thought that was pretty funny too! Glad some one got the *subtlety*! And, I love your description!!
http://i8.photobucket.com/albu…..G_0045.jpg
Just dropped in to see who’s still around, I see some familiar faces…
Alaska update:
Cruise tax vote getting closer: 52% in favor of taxing the cruise ship industry, 48% against. 61% of precincts.
Nothing else changing.
I like my popcorn cooked on the stove in a little olive oil then sprinkled with soy-sauce. It sounds strange, but it’s delicious. And Uncle Rico is way smarter than Dumbya. Uncle Rico is charming. Bush has always made the hair on the back of my neck stand up, even from the get-go. Anyone could see he was stupid. I saw that he was evil almost immediately.
Rushton @
235
Check. I know others, too.
Hmmmm. And I definitely do not mean the soy sauce …
That sentence he couldn’t finish? I’ve known two people who’ve done that – - my Aunt Lottie and my Mother.
It’s not like the rest of us who interrupt ourselves, can’t remember what we were going to say and smack ourselves on the head with “Oh, shit. I forgot what I was going to say.”
No, it’s something different, where the sentence trails off and the speaker finally finds a word, but not necessarily a word that fits, to finish the sentence, if not the thought. That last word is spoken with lower affect and without the conviction with which one usually ends a sentence.
My Aunt Lottie died of Alzheimer’s and my mother is in her eighth year of the same diagnosis.
After a while, they couldn’t come up with any word to finish with, and now we’re happy if Mother says even single words.
When I saw Bush do that yesterday, it struck me immediately that it was exactly what Lottie and Mother used to do.
It was eerie and I thought for the first time that impeachment might become moot for this disastrous pretend-President.
Wonder if a CT-scan of his brain was included in his recent physical?
Alaska roundup:
Two tough women were the big winners here. Both are mothers, intense in their family commitments. Both have challenged the party structure which has now had to – finally, in both cases – accept them into the fold. One will win and create a new paradigm for her party here. The other might too, but nobody expects that yet, least of all the candidate herself – Diane Benson.
Sarah Palin did a Republican version of Ned Lamont. Except what Ned did was a LOT harder. Frank would have been roadkill if Hugo Chavez were the sole opponent. But Frank’s advantage was immense as an incumbent gov with 20 years of DC contacts. He came in 3rd, just ahead of a guy who wants to annex islands off the north coast of Russia.
Palin got her chops working for the early Murkowski administration. When she challenged corruption in her own party, she was made so uncomfortable in her job, she quit. When she went public on the sleaze, all party-based challenges to her assertions were shredded. So Palin ran against the GOP machine here, which is perceived to be corrupt.
The fact that Sarah accumulated twice aas many votes as her November Dem challenger when Sarah was in a hot race and former gov Knowles was unopposed shows the strrength of her position now.
But Diane Benson has to be the most intriguing possibility to enter into this most important election we’ve yet been fortunate enough to have nationwide. Diane, an unrepentant Green who has embraced the possibility of a new Dem party, has challenged the Dem machine to actually challenge Don Young, one of the most senior members of the US house.
Diane’s son, an Army Airborne sergeeant, was severely injured in a roadside bomb explosion in Bagdhad last November. Before – and especially after – her son’s injury, which lost him most of three limbs, Diane Benson has been an eloquent spokesman against this awful war. Since her son’s injury, she has spent hundreds and hundreds of hours with disabled servicemen and women.
Mrs. K8 @ 126
That was Ken Herman of Cox Newspapers. He used to be the AP bureau chief at the capitol here in Austin until last year.
He was a colleague of Mr. Littledog and neither of us remembers him being the bulldog he’s turned out to be, but then the reporters down here weren’t as tame as the Washington version so he might not have stood out as much.
Ken’s originally from NYC, I believe, but was in Austin for at least 25 years. He’s always been a smart-ass, and he’s funny as hell.
It may be that he’s not intimidated by bush because he covered him here for six years while he was governor and isn’t suffering from any illusions about him.
I didn’t realize until seeing it again on Olbermann tonight that that bastard called Ken’s jacket “ridiculous”. What an asshole.
BTW, this isn’t the first time Herman has asked the right question. I can’t remember the particulars, but I remember recognizing his (very distinctive to a Texan) voice in a tough question earlier and he knocked Bush off his guard with whatever he asked then.
Do they give Pulitzers for asking a good question?
littledog @ 240
with what the WH press corps has been like, they should start. Thanks for identifying Mr. Herman and giving us the Texas take on it.
I am so sorry that you have had to endure the slow decline of two women you love. I can’t imagine how incredibly soul-tearing that would be. One reason I was po’d that NBC cancelled ‘The Book of Daniel’ was that it had such an empathetic (and jolting) take on the ravages Altzheimer’s inflicts on a family.
(btw, I actually have a “little dog, ‘Too’” – am I a long-lost love child of you and punaise?)
edited typo
Do they give Pulitzers for asking a good question?
Little Dog –
That in itself is a good question. Probably not, but in this day and age of the lapdog press, it SHOULD be a separate category for its own prize.
Is Mr. Little Dog a reporter, or otherwise employed in a journalistic capacity (for instance, editor)? If you explained this elsewhere, I apologize for not keeping up with all the comments here enough to know.
Little Dog –
On first reading, I somehow missed your post at #238 (am starting to drift off into slumberland, even while sitting up!).
So sorry to hear about your mom, and about how your aunt died. Your mom will be in my prayers — and you, too, for I know how hard this is on families, especially spouses and adult children of parents suffering this horrible disease.
And regarding CT-scans for Dear Leader — if he’s gotten one or more, you can be sure they’re classified as a state secret.
-ck- @ 21
well, least you got the nebraska part right
but you missed badly on the other team in the Big 12
BOOMER SOONERS
oh, and if astralplame checks back in, I suggested the t-shirt (me, me, me, mwhahahaha) and I am so glad it worked to restore Bettie’s perky nature.
That’s one pup who just wouldn’t look right if she weren’t leaping around with an open-mouthed grin. (and I’m certain anyone seeing that gal would grok the “Product of Neglect” T as irony immediately.)
OT 0 but it is 3:30 a.m. here in MN and WHY the heck am I awake? errrrr
Way up above someone asked if the dems will really hold anyone accountable for this mess. I agree and I have many doubts that once they take over one house at least, the right wing media will swing into action and trash every single move they make. And ask why they don’t DO something about Iraq and move forward and not look backwards.
Oh, the dems will be under great pressure to not hold anyone accountable. And it will still be Bush’s DOJ running the courts so I am very pessimestic.
I know everyone’s asleep as i should be. i just wanted to let you know I was home. 26 hours , four planes, 3 trains a scotch, but home. i have much to report but must transcribe from hand written notes. Glad to be back.
-HopeSat…finally
Welcome home HopeSat … and am hoping you are fast asleep in your own bed. Ahhhh, that feeling. See ya tomorrow.
Good Morning All…I hope that Grandma J and Hopie are deep in sleep at this time…………it’s cool (56) and clear in Eastern Maine. Hot coffee anyone?………
HOPE!!!!! :D
Aloha!
Old Sow – Nope – no sleep yet. I went to bed rather early and was asleep immediately. So I am paying the price of that early bedtime. Plus, I woke up with the sound of rain, and it took be at least 15 minutes to realize all the windows were wide open. As are the car windows, but alas am NOT going outside.
Needless to say, I am wide awake. Also, as usual for me, worries about family keep my mind busy — too busy.
Soooo, here I am. Seeing what the nightowls are doing — making new fun nests for the daytimers to admire.
Well, as always, Siun via MFI spreads the butter on the toast….Siun @ 68
Hi Grandma……I am part of the eary bird contingent. I usually switch between the Lake and some cheerful site like http://www.antiwar.com at this time of day.
Noted this headline about the cost of war this morning……….http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/753229.html
Hi Nate……how’s the Aloha state?
HopeSAT — glad to see you back, safe and sound!!
Can’t sleep. Been owl-y eyed for hours now. Too much on my mind.
Hi Rayne, hardly ever see you this side of the day…..but I always note your contributions throughout the days and weeks……
And wrt ES’ comment below…Cheney’s personal holding have increased about $394K per dead US soldier during this massacre and occupation…
Eureka Springs, AR @ 97
GrandmaJ,
since you’re still up anyway – I see your point
but we have to have some hope that there remain some career professionals in the DOJ who haven’t been run off yet. (like Bunnatadine Greenhouse from the Pentagon) If there remain a few apolitical leaders (not to be read to mean management) in the organization, they can turn the tide of the mobbing the other way. It’s hard and takes balls/ovaries of steel, but once the side-liners see which way the political winds are blowing, they are more likely to back those standing up for their profession.
It will be a long process of dragging each element along like a recalcitrant calf. Move Congress forward a few centimeters, drag the press a little closer to push Congress, nudge Congress to nudge DOJ, DOJ careerists work the body of the beast from the inside…trying to make higher-ups do the right thing, even if for the wrong reasons (trying to look good and avoid going down with the ship).
The more each part progresses, the more it pushes the other, and the changes in the political climate will make those on the inside feel more confident that if they raise a stink, it will be heard by someone.
Hi Old Sow. Another shitty day in paradise as we say. It’s a little warm here tonight (no breeze) but other than that I can’t complain. Another 39 days until I’m gone though.
Nate…uh..until you’re gone through what?
My friends in the north of the big island are commenting on the “no wind”. Is that what is called Kona weather?
this is gonna get epu’d adn I’m gonna cut and paste it again later in the day on one of the new threads, I’m going to work and I don’t know if I’ll be back for the next one
hacket is unbelieveable
HACKET IS UNBELIEVABLE
let me repeat that;
HACKET IS UNBELIEVABLE
you MUST watch hacket on hardball
http://www.crooksandliars.com/…..ardball-2/
this man is SPOT ON
THIS is the way we have to ddress the questions about the war
it’s as if he reads my writing, it’s like verbatum what I post
I LOVE Hacket
Me to Me—–THANKS!! Taylor is a meatball. Hackett Rocks.
gaDAMit
hackett has no website?
no blog?
what’s up with that?
I want to go over and give him some action, some money, some support
Anybody know what book we’re discussing this Sunday?
astral–best of luck to you and your bf.
These continuous back-door drafts are, for a volunteer army, the military equivalent of eating your seed corn. The young men who are normally the army’s targets for recruiting start to figure out that these sorts of long-after-the-fact callups mean that signing up for a two-year stint is actually signing up for life. And that makes recruiting them that much harder.
It’s the sort of thing you can get away with for a couple of years, but bites you hard in the long run.
Book Salon is posted in upper left corner of eavh page. It’s John Dean’s book this week. I’ve just read it and it makes a good argument about the personality types afoot in the US these days wrt the right wing.
Thanks, Old Sow. I didn’t notice the block below last week’s book announcement. Yes, I’ve read and listened to Dean’s book and can’t wait for the discussion.
Mornin’ all! how goes it?
Nate @ 193
Well, as a former client of yours then (OK, OK, so I spent about a week and a half at Hickam, around ‘98 or so), thanks for trying. A shame things aren’t working out so well for that company, though. *tiny violin music*
Hi, y’all! Onliest thing snagged my eye as I scrolled down here was that Hopie’s back to her own bed for some good ol’ REM. GREAT news, that.
What else doin’ ’round here before I nip back up to the top?
BQ – Agree. There is little that I am sure of these days, but I am sure that these toobrootz are going to have to keep the heat on D.C. even IF the dems take back 1/2 houses in Nov. We need to keep hammering on the terrible abuses Bush has ‘accomplished’ and demand accountability.
They will not do it on their own. Sigh. This ‘democracy’ thing is hard work.
Twolf1 and Lotus……
your presence I notice….
hey lotus, how ya doin’?
Old Sow, mornin to ya’. Another nice day in ME huh?
Old Home Morning feels good, doesn’t it, OS and twolfie? Now where’s tommy, imm, beardy and medaka?
Somebody, roust those sleepyhead boyz OUT!
Grandam grandma, you are concise and pithy for a sleepy girl!!
(Gotta get in all my comments in a short period of time as I have to leave soon to drive to Portland,ME to meet a client and then—ta daa–meet my sister for a few hours!!!)
Twolf1….an awesome morning!!!!!!!!I’m sorry I have to jump into the car momentarily….well, within the half hour……
Oh well, OS, we’ll miss ya but it sounds like a good day ahead of you. Got any of that leftover buckle I could heat up and try? Sure sorry I missed out on that first time around.
Old Sow… That would indeed by Kona weather. :) Kona is on the leeward coast of the big island and can get very hot, arid and still of wind.
Did you guys see that AK’s incumbent Governor, Frank Murkowski has conceded the primary election to moderate republican Sarah Palin?
http://today.reuters.com/news/…..mp;src=rss
Oh shucks! :)
So very too bad, that, Nate. Kleenex?
Off to gather my Thursday Writing Heads menu for y’all. Back wif it ASAP . . .
I just happen to have a fresh pan of that blackberry buckle fresh out of the oven. Help yourself, Lotus. Seriously, I’ve never seen the blackberries so huge, sweet, and plentiful as this year. Global warming and climate change is my guess. We may yet rival the Pacific Northwest if this trend continues. Those bushes are great “spreaders” and are far more “dangerous” to harvest than raspberries. LOL
Oh, I think it was Blackberry Fool, Lotus, not Buckle, to honor that Gerstein fellow.
Pity about those incumbents…..maybe I’ll bake some “buckle to the truth” for them……
karl rove’s wallet
Ok, let’s figure we are going to take back the Congress. It’s pretty clear from polling that all the numbers are going against these inept fools, and there’s almost no chance at all that Iraq is going to get better, not for the next ten years probably. Cheney stated the plan in your quote, and the plan was a fantasy rather than a plan, and they didn’t implement any of it, they just wrecked the country. So we win. How about everyone on board this train make damn sure that what happens next is not that we just “pull out” and hang Bush and Cheney, and give the GOP a present of immense proportions in the process: “see they pulled out, looked what happened, the terrorists won, the Sears Tower is gone, gas is $7.50, unemployment is at 15%, etc. etc.” In other words, let’s us be thinking ahead too. At this point in the Bush train wreck, it might be a glorious political present to the GOP to have the Democratic Party hold the bag, whereas what really must happen is that the GOP pay for this incompetency they have fostered on the nation by putting into power jackasses like Bush and Cheney. Not that I’m not for getting the hell out of Iraq, mind you, and for taking war as diplomacy by other means off the goddam table forever. But we have to also figure out how to keep the GOP from spinning it all back at us, as they will.
Twolf—reminds me of that hilarious video of the girls with pork chops tied to their heads while the lizard runs around…………
I agree that we need to be looking ahead but I for one don’t care if the GOP tries to spin it back on the Dems as long as they are no longer in the driver’s seat. It’s going to take years if not generations for the US to recover from this administration and the sooner we get started the better. And since they now hold all the money, let’s make them pay for it from their obscene war profiteering………two sides can make retroactive laws, right?
OS over and out. Catch y’all at cocktail hour………peace be with us.
Bush to raise cash for Allen
Morning, everyone – didn’t spend too much time on last night – hope the mood was improved over Monday night…
Big on NYT’s homepage:
Iran Sanctions Could Fracture Coalition
Iran Won’t Give Promise to End Uranium Effort
A New Orleans Home Is Reborn, With Grit and Persistence
Nation Faltering, Afghans’ Leader Draws Criticism
Relief Agencies Find Hezbollah Hard to Avoid
Poll Shows a Shift in Opinion on Iraq War (folks now distinguishing it from “the fight against terrorism”)
Conflict of Interest Is Raised in N.S.A. Ruling
(Judicial Watch claims Judge Taylor’s given $125K to ACLU)
Study of Test Scores Finds Charter Schools Lagging
Newport Journal: ‘Dead Zone’ Off Oregon Creates Alarm, and Skepticism
Official Met With Reporter Around Time of C.I.A. Leak
Marines May Call Up 2,500 Reservists
Clinton Rival Tries to Make Most of Liberal Anger
(”As Ned Lamont basks in his Democratic primary victory in Connecticut, another antiwar underdog is trying to assume the same role of political giant-killer in next month’s elections in New York, though against much bigger prey: Hillary Rodham Clinton. … “)
Op-Ed Contributor: A Law Unto Herself
(Ann Althouse ragging on Judge Taylor)
And then over on WaPo’s homepage, we got:
Iran Pushes for Talks Without Conditions
Israel Delays West Bank Pullout
Safety for Airport Ground Crews Draws Scrutiny
Sen. Clinton Blocks AIDS Law
Extra Pounds Mean Fewer Years
Dutch F-16s Escort Northwest Airlines Flight
Gov. Murkowski Concedes Defeat in Alaska
Marine Reservists Facing Combat Duty
Celebritology: Paramount Cuts Ties to Tom Cruise
(Alligator Bag West?)
Burns Sparks Ire With Remark
Ignatius: Al-Jazeera’s Tricky Balancing Act
Saad Eddin Ibrahim: Unexpected ‘New Middle East’
Heritage Foundation: Clinton Was Right on Welfare
PostGlobal: Who Will Stabilize Lebanon?
(smacking lip-petals, smearing face-petal in bodacious blackberry heb’n, wishing to throw arm-petals around OS’s neck)
YUMMMM-OLA!
Hi, Anne — I hope so too but can’t report from personal knowledge one way or t’other.
good morning people!
hi tommy yum, how goes it?
Hi there, tommy! Howz trix at your place?
I don’t wanna jinx anything, but I’ve been watching CNN for a little while this AM and have not heard one word about the JBR crap…. DOH!!! spoke too soon!
twolfie!!! Cut that out rat now!
I’m on my 2d cuppa.
The great news is we got rain, finally. It was getting pretty dire.
Hope they’s more where that came from for you, tommy — cuppa and rain bof.
So far this AM, I’ve heard the classic GOP excuse that “if we don’t fight them there, we’ll have to fight them here.” Why hasn’t anyone countered with something to the effect of – “Are you going to say the same thing about Iran after we attack them? Why didn’t we continue to fight them in Afghanistan? We were already fighting ‘them’ there, why’d we cut-and-run? Isn’t OBL the main target anyway? Oh, I forgot, GWB don’t think ’bout him no mo.”
Also, saying that we will be fighting them here is admitting that the current admin is incapable of securing our borders. If we’re fighting them here, they would have had to get in the country somehow.
sorry, just something that pisses me off.
damn, y’all, there’s been a lot of flamin’ lately. i started noticing it a while ago. lately it’s been getting a little out of control. don’t know why everybody’s so agitated.
is it growing pains?
lotus, the CBOE rammed a resolution through monday night giving bunkey his own safe seat by changing chatham co. voting to by district instead of county-wide. they lost, so they’re changing the rules.
new thread
“Seriously, though. I’m starting to think that something is neurologically wrong with the man. Well, aside from being less astute than a plate of cabbage. Take a look at the moment about halfway through this press conference (about a minute and 35 seconds) where he just seems to…gray out for a second. He’s in the middle of a sentence and then seems to completely lose track of where he is and what, exactly, he’s talking about.”
I’ve noticed it too, but with another speculation – that he has an earphone of some sort and is stopping for a quick listen.
I’m going with the “plate of cabbage” theory. He’s no worse than he has ever been. “Worst” is as bad as it gets. Treating his neurologic problem [ADHD] wouldn’t help. He’s still a dull normal spoiled brat underneath…
Well crap, tommy! Y’all will stay on ‘em, I know, but that’s a bummer. Keep us apprised, yes?
From your lips(keypad) to God’s(apologies to my atheists friends) ears. The House and Senate?…we can only pray (or hope, if you prefer).
Nate@276 Did you guys see that AK’s incumbent Governor, Frank Murkowski has conceded the primary election to moderate republican Sarah Palin?
At least Frank knows what party memberhip means: “We expected to win, we didn’t win, so we’ll support the nominee, ” Murkowski said after arriving at election headquarters to concede.
rcauthen @
154
rcauthen’s on to something here; the Deciderer’s sorry little conscience rolling around in his empty brainpan is slowly consuming him. I don’t have a tv so I’m not exposed to the “idiot” constantly, and each time I see him on clips I notice a marked, continuing degradation of his ability to function in public. Even the repubs are starting to comment openly on it.
He vacillates between hubris/agression and indifference, like when he answered that question with Merkel by talking about “the pig we’re gonna eat tonight.”
9/11’s losing its magic to scare the public in line and he’s flailing, they’re all flailing, but Shrub doesn’t have the neurons to tough it out; he’s disintegrating in office before our very eyes.
The $64,000 question though is just what is eating at him, and personally I don’t think it’s Iraq, he really believes in that. I think it’s 9/11. That’s when he goes into full hubris mode, there’s no nuance there at all; 9/11 for him is has become a simple bludgeon. He’s turned it into this object that he hates to touch but has to. His voice goes hard and desperate when he mentions it. What would Freud have to say?
President Cheney, however…
Trex says:
Now there’s a lovely bedtime story.
Thanks for the laughs and the pleasant reveries, Barney.
Mrs K8 at 126
I believe that was the same reporter jr. had been razzing repeatedly about his clothing earlier in the presser (”They say seersucker’s coming back. heh heh heh” & similar snide comments, all followed by rest of the corpse dutifully guffawing right along on cue – ugh!).
It was jr. in full display, enjoying one of his most annoying habits – a full-bore attempt to humiliate the questioner; press corpse ditto, with the exception of Helen and the mystery-reporter.
The guy was not phased, even laughed himself, but he persevered & jr’s mask crumbled yet again before the eyes of the world.
Thank heaven for u-tube. Jr’s on record for posteriority.
Haven’t read past your comment yet, but I hope someone, sometime, will i.d. that reporter to all of FDL.
Wouldn’t it be fun to send roses?! ;->
As always, you rock! The Shrub does not have a neurological disorder, it’s most definitely a personality disorder. If you haven’t read Paul Levy’s discourse on King George’s ‘malignant egophrenia’, then please do!
(can’t figure out the link, so I’ll just write it) http://www.alternativesmagazine.com/31/levy.html
Thanks GSD 139
I should have kept reading. I knew some kind soul would step in to help out.
That guy’s a keeper. I hope you’re joking about Siberia beat…
All you firedawgs chortling over Frank Murkowski losing, don’t get all frothy-silly over it.
A couple a years ago we met a hot-shot senior AK fella who [knew everything about everything], and voted regularly. Hon. Sr. HATED Frank Murkowski but LOVED Ted Stevens – “best senator anywhere”(!) *retch*
It’s not just oil in the water up there-bouts. More complicated, evidently.
VG – Lisa’s Frank’s daughter, originally appointed to fill his Senate seat. They’ve apparently got quite a home-style, pro-family-type thingie going on up there, tw’ the Murks’ & the Stevens’.
me to me 259
This is great fun! Hackett’s getting that clip recommended on multiple threads. Yes, he was that good on Tweetie. Recommend everyone check out that link.
Please note also that Hackett enthusiastically and sincerely backs Sherrod Brown for Senate, and is working with Sherrod on the campaign trail. I think that says a lot about BOTH of them.
Yes, I have first-hand knowledge of how Brown has performed in office over the last many years, and he is worth every ounce of that support.
Hackett is not only smart and savvy, he’s generous and humble. He’ll be in office PDQ, I’m thinkin. In the meantime, I think it’s terrific he’s working with Sherrod and learning a lot that will help him in the future. ;->