Okay, class, we had a roaring debate yesterday about Darcy Burner’s first ad. Here’s another case example for community review: John Courage’s first ad.
Here are the yardsticks, based on this excellent, original polling and analysis. Note that this polling review of why Francine Busby lost in her bid to take over the criminal Duke Cunningham’s seat is critical to this year’s crop of Dems. It does what advertising consultants in politics don’t do: figure out why a person lost and what messages actually mattered to voters. It is also the only data we have about a real congressional contest in 2006:
Recommendations
Candidates should run aggressively on accountability and the war in Iraq. Here are six specific `rules of thumb’ we recommend you use for planning purposes.
- 1. Iraq must be central in your campaign and you must blame Republicans for it Ignoring Iraq, downplaying its significance, or accepting Bush’s framework by not blaming leaders is a sign to voters that you are weak, unlikely to bring change, and not addressing the main issue of the day. Regardless of how you approach the policy going forward in Iraq, the key trait that voters seek is a willingness to hold failed leaders accountable for the debacle. Be willing to uncover the truth, place blame, and demand consequences.
- 2. The debate on whether Bush is a competent, trustworthy President is over. He is considered among Republicans, Democrats, and Independents a leader who makes mistakes and then won’t tell the truth about those mistakes. This is not about competence. This is about massive failure of leadership with no end in sight.
- 3. Republicans cannot run against Bush and Iraq. Voters do not think that Republicans are willing to hold Bush or other administration figures accountable for those mistakes, so Republican Congressional dissent on the war is unlikely to help Republicans. But dissent will, in fact, work to Democratic candidates’ advantage. It shows strength and, most importantly, principle and personal values.
- 4. `Terrorism’ scares only work in the absence of strong accountability messaging, since Republicans are no longer trustworthy on issues of war and peace. Voters know Republicans will let mistakes slide and they want accountability in the face of that.
- 5. Oversight beats withdrawal. Journalists or other messengers who frame politics in terms of a need to have an alternative plan in contrast to Bush are insulting voters, and should be taken to task aggressively for framing false choices and misrepresenting the role of Congress. Congress primarily serves as military oversight, not military policy. Voters know that.
- 6. Pick a fight, any fight. Voters need to be convinced that Democrats can credibly challenge Bush. Whether the fight is over de-funding Cheney’s personal staff, attacking John Bolton’s confirmation, impeachment hearings, or stopping war profiteering with a new `Truman Commission’, Democratic candidates must demonstrate strength through aggressive confrontation where the term "accountability" is more than just an abstraction or corporate lingo. It must be made real through a fight you plan to pick.
When presented with squeals from journalists and Republicans over your fight, a resolute willingness to not back off in the face of criticism is key. Your willingness to hold Bush accountable must be made real. For example, demand that the president and the party in power come to account for having squandered lives, security and treasure while enriching CEOs of major corporations such as Halliburton.
Here’s a real-world example of this dynamic from US history: Harry Truman became vice president because as a US Senator, he had the backbone to demand that major figures in the American economy either give back money stolen in the provision of shoddy materiel for World War II, or go to jail for treason.
In sum, whatever fights you pick, whether specific local issues or national ones, our poll shows that accountability regarding Bush, Congressional Republicans and your opponent is crucial to building the credibility you need in order to break through with a majority vote in November. Democrats, Independents and even many Republicans want this to occur. Do it.
Let’s also review some key points about political ads and the Democratic advertising machine:
- Good ads show more than they tell. This is a visual medium. Tell your story with pictures, then use words to accent your story. Fit the words to the images, not the other way around. A powerful, visual impact is critical to a successful ad. Ned Lamont’s ads are here. Look at Commercial #1. It tells a story visually. Look at Commercial #4: another powerful and memorable visual. MoveOn’s highly web tested (not focus groups, and done pre-launch), successful "red hands" series is another model (quicktime link).
- Effective ads move poll numbers. 5+% is achievable with a great ad campaign, but television time is expensive. The stakes are high, and since the costs are high, there’s just no room to spend or waste money on lackluster ads. Most money in politics is burned up in advertising, in part, because advertising really matters. If it costs that much and the stakes are that high, it’s worth doing right.
- Democratic advertising consultants are made up of a closed, unaccountable priesthood of losers with perverse incentives. If you see a cookie cutter ad, it’s because it’s a cookie cutter ad with no imagination, and hence, no impact. The same consultants get hired by Democrats over and over, and they get paid as a percentage of the advertising placement (GOP advertising people get a flat fee). Their incentive is to spend more money on big ad buys, but since the same consultants get recycled whether they win or lose, they actually have no incentive to win or to learn from mistakes. They only have an incentive to burn up campaign cash. Contrast this with the people doing Lamont’s ads or Ellliot Spitzer’s ads, who are from the corporate world and accustomed to using cutting edge visual strategies to sell products for clients who hold them accountable for results.
- In a competitive race, a good ad campaign makes the case for a candidate, defines the candidate and defines the opponent. This is what a good multi-ad campaign accomplishes. No one ad can do it all, but the basics of good ads across a campaign hold true. Once again, look at the ads in the Lamont campaign for his primary win. Different ads do different things, but they all make a striking visual presentation, even when the visuals are the fresh, attractive faces of Ned’s inner city students.
- The netroots should become much more sophisticated about criticizing advertising because advertising is so central to candidate success. If we care about winning, we have to become sophisticated viewers of ads, and begin to hold campaigns and the party accountable. Otherwise, the cycle of persistent Democratic campaign fecklessness will continue. It’s up to us to change the system and create incentives for campaigns to win and to learn. Now that the netroots are able to do real polling designed to evaluate actual campaign performance, we have the tools needed to help progressive candidates break free of the stranglehold placed on them by the DC insiders and the congressional campaign committees who recommend these loser consultants as a precondition to bestowing active party support.
Okay, gang, so what do you think of John Courage’s first ad? Discuss.
UPDATE: I just got late word this was an in-kind donated ad to the Courage campaign, so the campaign put no money into it. I’m not yet clear who made it (I have some names but don’t know who they are) or whether or not they are advertising pros. Obviously, if this is something done by people who are not advertising people on a budget, that influences how we should judge the end product.
Related posts:
- Accountability Now Targets Jim Cooper for Primary Challenge
- DPC to Continue Drive for Oversight, Accountability for Iraq and Afghanistan Contractors
- GOP Candidate Scozzafava Suspends NY-23 Campaign
- 238 Members of Congress Disagree with the President: The Fed Needs More Accountability
- “Preventive Detention” Plan Shows Urgent Need for Leadership and Accountability at OLC





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Fitz?
Little Lord Joe!
;>)
That ad addresses some specific issues well.
My only criticism is that instead of saying that “Congress refuses to fully fund veterans services”, it should have said that the “Republican-controlled Congress refuses to fully fund veterans services”.
Otherwise it was pretty good.
darkblack
I love what you did with the image on the right, but what you did to that soccer ball . . . sacrilege!
Holy heck Pach, this is just amazing commentary. Absolutely amazing.
I can’t believe we’re having this level of discussion on an open message board. So many smart people, so committed. No wonder they’re shitting.
I am truly not worthy. :)
darkblack @ 1
awesome. And, hair does not improve this man.
This ad needs to tie the unfunded parts aroung the Republicans’ neck not “congress”. This wording implies no difference between Rs and Ds. Is Courage scared to blame this crap on the Rs?
Also, the (proposed?)$7MM cut in funding to the traumatic brain injury budget is missing. That has to be in there.
Now off to watch the ad.
I liked it.
The message was direct and lobbed criticism at the GOP over an issue that any patriotic American ought to stand behind – taking care of the soldiers that risk their lives and health defending our country. Regardless on your stance in Iraq, how can we tolerate failing our wounded troops?
This guy sounds like a straight shooter that can appeal to a wide group of voters.
I like how he draws out the larger issue of vets’ benefits……we have to take this issue and jam it down their throats. They’ve cut and cut and cut.
We are not getting out of Iraq until Bush is held accountable and responsible; and the Republicans will not hold Bush accountable.
And if Iraq was the major goal Bush said it was, why has no one but the soldiers been asked to sacrifice?
It shows Bush is too cowardly to ask his rich base for that extra dose of patriotism — not the kind you just stick to your bumper.
Ditto to Bear-paw said with one addition. Instead of saying send a message to Congress, it would be much more powerful if it read “Send a message to the Republicans in Washington.” Or to “the Bush White House.”
Peterr @ 3
Mom wouldn’t let him use indelible ink, though
;>)
Fitz!
It’s milquetoast.
Grainy indestinguishable pictures, no breakout numbers of the injured soldiers, doesn’t even say he’s a Democrat.
Bottom line, no shock value. Good time to hop off the couch and take a ____.
Next!
OK. Now I know why you don’t read the article before Fitzing.
In terms of the identified strategies, the ad misses the point on the Iraq debacle.
I thought the ad was weak on holding Congress and the Administration accountable for the underfunding. The point is that the GOoP controls the government — the promises were made and enacted by previous (Democratically controlled) Congresses. The GOoP has turned its back on those promises.
Nice touch: Vietnam-era veteran versus Vietnam veteran. The distinction is not lost on people in my generation.
All-in-all, I’d give it B. Maybe a B in the context of a whole package…
BC
Great post Pach.
This is an excelent example of a well executed commericial. The content flow is seamless and cohesive. It’s focused, and you take away from it a sense that John Courage will be a leader and that Congress has failed.
Bearpaw @ 3
Yes, I agree with you on that point 100%, but also think that it was quite good. The finger of blame needs to point more directly.
BTW, is this candidate for real? John Courage, Vet? Holy crap! If so, he ought to win on name alone. ;)
Howard Dean was interviewed the other day and said something like this: “We’ll work to keep the American people safe without scaring them to death.” And then he reiterated how we are failing to do that now. It was short, to the point, powerful, and I wish I could remember the whole thing.
In a time-conscious political ad it’s a very good way to zone in on the shortfalls of this administration while emphasizing that the dems do have constructive ideas. Does anyone remember where he said this… I’d like to find the entire quote.
You call what happened yesterday a “roaring debate?” You make up your minds before you blog and then attack anyone who disagrees with you.There are way too many bullies on this site.
Kiss my ass in Macy’s window, will ya’?
Definitely better than the Burner ad from yesterday…but two things that are missing.
1) Bearpaw pointed out he should have said Republican controlled Congress.
2) No mention at all that Courage is a Democrat. Needs to be there. Why should we trust his promise rather than those currently serving? Republicans get nothing done, Democrats will.
3) He should have had a more prominent picture of himself in uniform when talking about his service. This is a man who served, put it up front in their face and let the people know this guy knows what he is talking about when discussing benefits.
All I can think of right now.
Okay, dear Mods (or other HTML gurus)
Where in the toobz of the internets do all my plus-signs go? I’m very stingy with plus-grades (it generally invites the student to show on my doorstep wanting some kind of retroactive enhancement that will raise the letter and change the ‘plus’ to ‘minus’.
But dammit, there are times it needs to be used!
/rant
BC
I live in the John Courage/Lamar Smith district. It is extremely republican. (My town is 80-20 I once heard) We do have lots of retired military in the area, so this ad should resonate. I don’t watch television so I have no idea what the “conversation” is like on the airways, but I did see a John Courage bumper sticker yesterday. Damn it, I may have to wander over to his office and do some volunteering, rather than just reading about it all at FDL.
I like the theme, and sticking to a single theme. The candidate is also blessed with a GREAT political name. Overall I give it a solid “B”.
What needs improvement?
- those image box thingies were too small, and there were too many of them – made it too busy.
- that blur-in, blur-out action is annoying.
- Let’s see more of Courage’s face as he talks, not just 100% voice-over.
- Shorten and tighten – 60 seconds max.
Weak…waste of money.
Odds on it was done by a consultant working on a percentage.
Voters are itching for someone to hold Bush accountable for anything he has messed up. The ad does not challenge Bush or the Republicans. It criticizes “Congress” and that implicitly criticizes Democrats…it buys the other side’s meme that both parties are equally responsible for the mess in Washington.
My personal take: starts faceless and negative,which is a turnoff “…brain injuries”. Then, a full half way through it gets personal, and much better – I lost my dad, I served four years, and I CARE about our vets, unlike Congress.” Overall, I liked it, but it could have been better.
The Republicans test their ads on their target audience (undecided/independents.) Then they adjust the messages and ads accordingly, until they work, until they convince. Is ANYONE on our side doing this up front (as opposed to post-mortem?)
“Good ads show more than they tell” – They also do their showing with more than just images. The music in the opening 30 seconds of this ad does a good job of setting the mood.
The 18,000 promises aren’t promises of joy, like 9,000 weddings. They are the promises to the wounded and their families – promises that have their roots in pain, agony, and often the death of friends. The music matches the somberness of these promises. It doesn’t overpower the images, nor does it draw attention to itself, it merely does what it is supposed to do, very well – in short, it fitz! (err . . . fits!)
23 seconds of describing the promises, then shifting to “The problem is . . .” to introduce both the problem and the candidate in the first 30 seconds. Not a bad opening . . .
I’d like to say more, but I can’t because I’m on &$^@#*% dialup, and I’m still waiting for the rest of the ad to download . . .
Cheers for you! If you have the time, that would be great.
I agree with zAmboni @21 and the others who point out that:
1. Ad does not blame Republican congress
2. Ad does not identify him as a Dem (if in fact he is, if he is actually an R that would explain both.)
Better, but still not as good as the Lamont ads. We really need hard hitting ads this cycle.
This ad is just as weak as Burner’s. There is something weird going on at FDL.
Jenny from the Blog @ 18
I love Howard Dean. However, he had really crappy ads. He’d have been better off going with the ones his supporters created for him on the web rather than those he paid whats-his-name to make for him. Some of the supporter created ads were really inventive and moving.
What are you guys smoking?
petedownunder @ 29
In a heavily R district, identifying as D early in the campaign might be counterproductive. Understanding the nature of the district gives some insight into the ad’s structure.
This isn’t an ad you’d in NM-1 (Madrid [D] v Wilson [R, incumbent]). That district is much more of a swing district, and the catfight has already started. The nice thing is that because Patsy Madrid is a woman, she’s not having to take the blowback previous candidates got for picking on that poor Heather Wilson.
BC
witchywoman @ 31
I don’t recall his ads, but was referring to a quote from an interview a few days ago. It must have been on C&L because I don’t watch TV news. Just searched for it but can’t locate. Well, he’ll probably say it again because it was quite effective.
The ad does run a little long, it’s true. Maybe it’s trying to do too much? It tries to do all three things a multi-ad campaign should do, except it does not really define an opponent, other than “congress.”
But how can you sell accountability if you won’t name names? When people cheer at a stadium, they cheer for (or against) a team or for (or against) specific players. They don’t cheer for (or against) the stadium.
could somebody close the strike tags on the previous thread pleeze
thanx in advance
I don’t know if there is anything “meta” to this, but I liked that I would not know it was a candidate ad at first. I feel pretty strongly about Veterans issues and the benefits being cut, and I found the ad engaging because of that. Once it got to the other information, I was pretty much committed to watching the rest of it.
ditto on the previous item- ID Republican congress and administration.
This is OT, except maybe that it should soon result in a nice Lamont ad:
CT-SEN: Lieberman And Right-Wing Host Agree: We’re In World War III
By Greg Sargent
This morning, Joe Lieberman appeared on the talk radio show of ultra-conservative host Glenn Beck. … Lieberman agreed with virtually everything Beck said, and claimed he was “proud” of the conservative host. Lieberman agreed with Beck that we’re in the middle of World War III… when he said that there was a risk that the “entire Middle East will be on fire.” … when he said that the real reason we invaded Iraq wasn’t over WMD but because we wanted to “pop the head of the snake in Iran.”
http://electioncentral.tpmcafe…..ld_war_iii
Local CT Democrats will have to work fast to purge Joe, since Joe is purging himself as fast as he can. That might mean more than one thing, but I don’t have time to straighten it out right now.
It’s Zeller Time!
Stephen, your take is that ad doesn’t work for you, but clearly it’s speaking to some people, albiet perhaps only the choir. The real issue is – does it work (or not work) for large numbers of voters? That’s why focus groups are so important.
Jenny from the Blog @ 33
Sorry. I realize you were quoting a recent statement (a really good one!). My mind just spun off and conflated Howard Dean and ads and there you go. I’m starting to blame this sort of thing on middle-age.
Sadly most people have come to expect low production values and schlock in political advertising, the equivalent of junk mail. If and when anyone gets a handle on how to communicate a campaign message in a really dynamic fashion that will be a good day. Hopefully it will be coming from our side when it happens.
At the moment it really comes down to dollars and taste and the charisma of the particular actor (politician). All political ads leave a lot to be desired, IMO.
Awful music.
witchywoman -
No problem! I just wanted to clarify my comment in case it was misunderstood. Thanks!
surprised that there’s no mention that he’s a Democrat
I think we need to add a few to the list
.7 redifine “cut and run” to describe Bush’s policies against terrorism and the fight where it belonged, afghanistan
.8 our military forces are an army with and their performacne demonstrates incredible success, they are not an occupyiing force, they are not a police force, they are not a peace keeping force
tag check
tag check
percy @ 39
Nope. That’s not what I said at all. I said I think the ad is no better or worse than Darcy Burner’s, which Jane shat all over yesterday and Pach wants you to believe there was a “roaring debate” about.
punaise @ 44
Isn’t that interesting! I wonder if this is some kind of horrible trend because the ad we were discussing yesterday had the same problem. I wouldn’t have known she was a dem unless Jane had mentioned the Act Blue dollars. Seriously weird.
I would begin with the phrase, “President Bush and the Republicans in Congress like to claim that they support our troops, but a look at their record tells a different story.”
The phrase, “We’re only as good as the promises we KEEP,” should be the jumping off point for the rest of his ads. Just think of all the promises Bush and his cronies have made that they’ve FAILED to keep (Katrina, balanced budgets, lower deficits, homeland security, adequately supplying our soldiers with body armor and armored Humvees, smaller government, etc., etc.), and the rest of Mr. Courage’s commercials will write themselves!
Hi gang, and YAY, got my computer today!!!!
I can watch ads and go to you tube and check out all of Eli’s strange and wonderful vids now. What a relief, I nearly cried.
This ad has a nice rhythm, but I agree with zamboni about all points, need to use those seconds to the max and include the reminder that this is a republican congress. I am assuming Courage is a Dem, but it’s hard to tell. Needs to be stated. Also, I’m one who likes to see the face of the person, make that connection, so there could have been a few seconds of him talking to the camera at the end of the narration.
Haven’t watched the Burner ad, will do that now.
Because I can.
Because I got my computer back.
And Firefox and bookmarks and oh boy I’m gonna be up late tonight.
Stephen @ 32
Stephen, I don’t understand what you’re trying to point out here, what your issue is. It would be really helpful if you could be less cryptic and more specific.
thanks
Gee, on The West Wing, Josh, Sam, Toby, and their consultants had an immediate grasp on all the issues and polling data of campaigns in every state and district. Do you mean to suggest that the real world Democrats aren’t like them?
1.) This may sound petty, but the music is tinny and annoying.
2.) Like Darcy Burner’s Ad, I can’t tell if he is a Democrat.
3.) There is only passing mention of “politicians in Washington”. Couldn’t that mean even the ones on your own team? This should be more specific.
4.) I know what the fight is: he wants to compel the government to honor its promises to veterans but it still seems too sentimental and vague.
5.) There is no mention (that I remember) of just how stupid it was to get into a war in Iraq in the first place.
6.) I still hear that music and it isn’t helping me get e warm fuzzy feeling.
I volunteer on Eric Massa’s (Fightin’ Dem) campaign. Basically we are working to boost name recognition, because polling shows that to know him is to love him. In my interactions with voters, the single most powerful positive defining statement for Eric is “he’s a 24 year Navy veteran.”
So I think pimping the military service in this add will have a positive payoff. Framing it in the context of Republicans screwing over veterans is a winner, but needs to be punchier.
I want to know what Robin thinks of this ad.
I don’t think it’s a bad thing that he doesn’t identify himself a Democrat.
Since their message is about veterans, would you want to politicize the issue of the people who have served and sacrificed to fight for America. After all we’ve seen how the Republicans have done this.
Also, if they sensing an anti-incumbancy tone in their polls, that could explain the criticism of Congress, not just Republicans.
I thought it was a great ad. Courage, as a Democrat, does not need to state that control of Congress is in Republican hands – he would not be pointing out the failures if Congress were in Democratic hands.
zennurse @ 50
Please see previous (#46). Glad you got your axe back!
The first thirty seconds or so, the “18,000 promises,” very good, very powerful. The second half of the ad, getting into the personal – his dad, his own service, how congress has failed the VA – I found my attention starting to fade. Not that the information is irrelevant, quite the contrary, but it’s telling instead of showing. That’s death for an ad. I edit film and TV for a living, and I’m seeing all kinds of stuff I’d hack out if I were the one putting it together; it’s gotta hit harder and get to the point.
Stephen, this district – Texas 21 – is very, very conservative and just got more so with the recent court ruling on redistricting. In-your-face-throw-the bums-out advertising would only scare these people. Given the demographic that Courage is working with, his veterans message may be a really smart move. He has to get life time republicans to decide that Bush and Co. has truly destroyed our red white and blue America.
OK, I now wish to revise and extend my remarks . . . The music matches the mood of the piece, all the way through, but overall, I think this might be a good rough cut and not a great finished product.
The vocal tone of Courage never really changes throughout. If he’s upset by all these promises, that never really comes through – especially since there’s no image of him saying it and all we’ve got is his voice – very flat affect. Even “send a message” never did much. “Why send a message? If you aren’t emotionally invested in it, why should I be?” He doesn’t have to rant, simply give it a different vocal feel with more punch to it.
Seeing the whole thing, I think it would work better if he reordered the pieces.
1. “I’m John Courage . . . lost my dad, Vietnam, etc. . .” Grab folks at the top of the ad with his personal story.
2. “That’s why I’m distressed at what’s been happening over the last six years. War, death, injuries, and now 18,000 new promises to the Vets – without the $ and inclination to make good on those promises.” Shift the tone, and show some emotion – frustration, anger, disdain, something – that makes it clear that this matters to you, and should matter to them.
3. “So join with me, and send a message . . .” Back off on the anger/frustration/etc., and bring it back to the beginning. “I know about war, about making good on promises, and about protecting the country. It’s time for a change in the 21st District. It’s time for a change in Washington. I’m John Courage, and I approved this message.”
This is a great ad.
I agree wholeheartedly. The ad would have much more impact, with Republican-controlled attached to it.
Much better than the Darcy Burner ad.
My only gripe about the PRESENTATION is all of the use of the blurring effect. I was trying to look at the images, and yet half the time they were blurring in and out of focus.
Now for the CONTENT. Spot on to attack on the situation in Iraq. However, he blames the situation on “politicians in Washington”, and on “Congress.”
He doesn’t even mention what party he’s in! Then I go to his website, and his party isn’t mentioned there either! Is he even a Democrat? I have no idea. I searched his whole webpage for the word Democrat, and it does in fact show up on the front page ONCE. Way down at the bottom, in small print.
I realize the Dem establishment is run by idiots. But this is stupid. Bush is not blamed for Iraq in this ad. Republicans are not blamed for Iraq. His lack of being a Republican is not even mentioned. These are the major themes of this election, and they are being ignored in this ad.
Darcy’s ad I faulted mostly for it’s dullness. This one is fine, if only it narrowed it’s focus a bit more, identified the man’s party (!!!), and then put the blame for Iraq squarely where it belonged.
Stephen, do you have any substantive point at all, or are you just here to gripe about the posters and commenters?
Courage is in a right-wing district that’s had Lamar Smith (R-Tom DeLay) for 20 years.
He needs Republicans to get elected here.
After seeing the ad, my reply is as follows:
Veterans benefits is not an issue that grabs everyone’s attention, though it may work in his district. He’ll need follow-on ads to gain the attention of other voters.
More importantly, the Courage ad never gets around to holding any individuals accountable for their actions. It blames “Congress”, but for many voters, “Congress” and their Congressperson are two separate entities. (I’m old enough to remember Democratic Congresses that didn’t take adequate care for Vietnam vets, though the current GOP Congress takes the cake on that score.) I certainly don’t know if his opponent is part of the problem.
The ad doesn’t tell me how Courage will change anything. Nothing about it tells me that his ad people read the Busby points.
(Bottom line: I would feel confident to leave the room, head to the fridge and grab a beer without fear of missing anything important.)
To quote from the short-run animated Jon Lovitz show, “The Critic”:
I’d like to see a tv ad with a child frolicking in a green meadow with spring flowers all around. Perhaps background music from “Afternoon of the Fawn”, or the like. Then all of a sudden a mushroom cloud appears in the distance; the screen turns from color to black and white, then to black. Then in red-orange letters say something like: “War is the number one killer of children. Bring back responsible peace. Vote Democratic”. Something perhaps along the lines of the LBJ ad used so effectively against Barry Goldwater.
Ideas: A
Presentation: C
Too dark, myopic. Depressing visuals.
His message is fantastic, just not well presented. I appreciate him doing the voice-over, but he’s dull.
Why not take it to the GOP for dropping the ball on veteran’s health care? This one pussyfoots.
SharonW @
18
Yes, he is for real. Running against Incumbent Lamar Smith in a district redrawn to include more Republican voters in the latest redistricting map.
His race got much tougher as a result. But John is tough and smart, and he’s not backing down.
Ok, I like it. Still soft spoken, but thats not a bad thing.
I do like the impact it had on me – It both pissed me off, and endeared me to him.
At the same time, it doesnt mention political affiliation (I know he’s a dem) – and it doesnt call out republicans by name. If that’s what works best fine, but it’s hardly rip-roaring confrontative. (is that a word?) Again, I would need to know whether that was intentional of not.
Overall, cookie-cutter, but had a good impact on me. That could be because I am already a convert. I’m not sure it would make me remember his name, volunteer, donate, or even get off my ass to vote.
roberto @
51
Good question.
In the real world, and on the show, if I recall correctly, post hoc interpretation amounted to assigning blame to someone else for not doing what we thought they should do, but no real testing of hypotheses with data.
The DCCC blamed Francine in CA-50 for a late gaffe in the weekend before the election that, as it turned out, did not matter to voters when we polled them about their vote choices. It just wasn’t an issue.
The narrative for Rahm Emanuel was to blame the candidate, not the strategy. But the polling shows the strategy was flawed.
People pay for polls before a race is won because it helps them make decisions about how to spend money and set strategy. Once the game is over, though, they don’t look back at what happened. That’s what this poll, uniquely, did.
Gnome de Plume @ 59
And this lays the groundwork with the focus being on the people who served the country.
Oh, and Pach–
Fantastic, concise post. Should be made “sticky” for constant referral. Bravo.
Peterr #60 nails it:
1) Establish candidate
2) Establish bona fides
3) Establish message.
Well if you can’t call yourself a democrat up front that’s not too good. I think people will find out eventually, ya know?
Might as well say it loud and proud. :)
Gnome de Plume @ 59
Please don’t let me be misunderstood.
Eric Burdon and the Animals live @ the Warner Center, 8/27/06. That’s right! This Sunday! For free.
Back OT. No one is actually reading my posts in context. I am upset because FDL attacked Darcy Burner for doing the very same thing that John Courage does in her ads. I don’t get it. Why would they go after Darcy and then declare there was a “debate” about it? Jane focused grouped the spot before she posted and she was not kind in her assessment. Then several FDL regulars were profane in their response to alternate views. It was not a debate.
Jenny from the Blog @ 19
Yes, yes, yes. Iraq is a huge issue but there are so many more that should be hammered on. I would love an ad that showed the contrast between a great president (FDR comes to mind) who took seriously his job to reassure the American people (nothing to fear but fear itself) with our current administration – (be afraid, be very afraid).
Or show the contrast between a great president who asks every citizen to make a contribution and/or sacrifice for the greater good – and one who allows those with the most to have a free ride while cutting off options other than the military for the lowest rungs of society – etc, etc.
I agree with the comments above that point out that the ad never states that Courage is a Dem. I also think it needs to be said that the country is on the wrong track because the Executive & Legislature have been Republican controlled. (The ad makes the point subtly with imagery, but with Repubs trying to make the case that Dems are just as guilty – I don’t think we can afford subtle.)
This was an introductory ad, in which John Courage picks a fight worth fighting. He defined the issue very well and the graphics chosen to illustrate his points were easily identifiable by Americans…many of them holding special significance to Veterans and their families. I thought the choice of music was appropriate. For a first ad, I approve this message.
He’s got a great name (and domain name) for a natural campaign slogan.
Courage for Congress
They ought to emphasize that so it sticks in people’s minds. Congressional Dems could use some courage.
I think the Courage ad sucks.
The visuals are too intricate and confused. These “slideshow montage” ads are not compelling. This ad, like other ads of this ilk, lacks compelling imagery.
Broadcast of this ad is a waste of money.
Redshift @ 63
See #75
Why, Oh Why doesn’t anyone read the posts before posting?
I am stressing the meme…
It is not the terrorists, gays or illegal immigrants fault
It is the Republcans and the lack of Congressional oversight that is at fault
Have you had enough yet?
WOW!
He’s staked his claim for that issue, it’s hard-hitting and hard for anyone, Dem or Repub, to disagree. It does stir the emotions, and certainly hits the accountability issue head-on. It’s also an excellent intro — it hooks you in, is memorable.
I think it’s an excellent first ad, and look forward to seeing the next one (sans the trepidation I feel about another one from Darcy Burner…)
I think both ads left me with, “Eh.”
And I think Pach and Jane are right–in this environment, ads that make you go “Eh” are not worth the money it takes to make them. Even though they don’t turn independents off, not turning independents off seems like a meek goal. Dems have a huge lead on every issue and in every generic poll, and failing to take advantage of that lead is just that: a failure.
I’ll go back to something I’ve been thinking for a long time. Dems are up dramatically among independents right now across the board. Which is the better strategy: hold on to them through November, or sacrifice much or all of that lead in order to motivate Dem voters? In a normal off-year election, that’s actually a no-brainer. I’m open to the idea this year will be different, but I doubt it.
I’m a fighting dem and I approve this message!
People respect you if you stand up and say who you are. Even if they don’t agree with what you say, you’ll still get points for integrity. You gotta do it.
Dear Stephen and every other armchair critic:
This blog is like a smorgasbord. We serve up a myriad of dishes every day — and we serve them up free of charge, other than the occasional donations that people toss our way and our once-in-a-while ads. Otherwise, the cost of this blog is all ours.
If you don’t happen to like what’s on the menu today, voila!, there is a whole other buffet just a click or two away. It’s called choice, and you get to make it with your mouse and your eyeballs — read or don’t read — your choice.
But until you blog day in and day out and produce a magum opus each and every time your hands hit the keyboard. Until you spend hours researching a piece and then have Congressional staffers call to scream at you for making their boss look bad. Until you get crazy, threatening e-mails from wingnuts and other crazies. Until you have to listen to people whine at you because you aren’t covering the one issue dear to their heart each and every time you post. Until you live on four hours of sleep and still try to produce something pithy, insightful, and meaningful…several times over, during the course of every single day…seven days a week…then you can kiss my ass in Macy’s window.
Jane isn’t the only one that can pull out the sass when necessary. And after having spent the last few days taking care of a cranky, sick toddler, to drop in for a few moments of blog respite to find someone whining about content but not giving any constructive criticism as to how to make it better? Well, screw that.
Very truly yours,
Christy
Note that the Hillsman ads at Ned Lamont’s site don’t try to do everything at once.
They don’t uses these typical fade in imagery gimmicks that political admakers use. They focus on telling a clean story, or introducing Ned, or defining the opponent, but not all three at once.
Hillsman’s ads are spunky, compelling and even fun. They meta-communicate that something interesting is happening.
In a Republican leaning district, as in CA-50, it’s even more necessary to make yourself a credible challenger based on accountability, and naming names. There are some good things about this Courage ad, much much of it is a muddle, in my view.
AkaDad @ 61
Not in his district, unfortunately. :(
Professor Foland @ 84
Well, the ordinary strategy would be to cater to the independents, knowing that the base has to come along for the ride.
If catering to the base means saying things (in swing districts) like, “Had enough yet?” and other accountability messages, maybe flipping usual strategy has some merit. Where are the I’s going to go? Back to the GOoP for more of the same RP&Ping?
BC
As I watched this, I was reminded of something Jerry Falwell once said. When he was beginning his career, he asked another (wildly successful, wealthy, holy-roller) minister how to be successful. The advice was simple — “Pick a fight.”
The overriding perception of progressive Democrats (and I’m one) is that they are wimps who leave the room when the fight starts. Ask yourself — what’s this ad REALLY about? It’s REALLY about the screaming hypocrisy of chickenhawk Republicans who love to bluster about war, get us into wars and use words like “muscular” “forward-leaning” “aggressive” and “pre-emptive” — but they refuse to actually FIGHT these wars themselves, and when the nasty results of all this war-mongering appear, they ignore them, and (in the case of Murtha and Kerry) trash those who actually were in combat.
The Bushies stampeded America into this war. They created the “evidence”, sent out their shock troops to terrify the public, and charged ahead (as the author of “Fiasco” said) with no plan to re-build Iraq, like the Yippies in the 60’s, just to “groove on the rubble.”
This is another ad that tries to be all things to all people (the one thing you can NEVER be, in advertising). It reinforces the preception of Democrats as weak-willed and mealy-mouthed. Voters are looking for Democrats who can stand up to bullies like Cheney and Rumsfeld. Does this guy seem tough? Not to me.
SAMPLE COPY OF AN ALTERNATIVE TO THIS (With roughly the same visuals)
VO — “The Bush Republicans stampeded America into a catastrophic civil war in Iraq. They had no plan to win. They have no plan to get out. And America’s brave troops are trapped there — tied down. Vulnerable. Put at risk by those who never served themselves.
And when they come back, wounded — these same Bush Republicans refuse to keep their promises to restore them to health. These Bush Republicans actually CUT FUNDING for rehabilitation of the brave men and women they asked to serve.
I’m John Courage, and I’m here to say THIS WILL NOT STAND. Elect me, and I’ll do WHATEVER IT TAKES to see that Veterans are taken care of. You want to talk back to the Bush Republicans? You have one chance, on election day. I was a soldier. I’ll get the job done, or die trying.”
I’m of two minds about the question of whether to identify as a Democrat in a Republican district. I certainly see a good argument for not doing it early in the race, because plenty of disgruntled but die-hard Republicans will tune you out immediately, and what you want to do is have them get to know you and identify with you first, and after that the party ID won’t be a deal-killer. (I also know some very sharp state pols who don’t strongly identify because they know what works in their mixed districts, though that’s better for a familiar incumbent than a challenger.)
But on the flip side, I respect the MyDD polling work, which was done in a Republican district. Also, there’s a lot of “conventional wisdom” in the no-ID plan, which makes me distrust it. So I’m inclined to have some sympathy for it in early “getting to know you” ads, but I think the verdict is mixed for using it in “throw the bums out” ads like this one.
Even if he is in a conservative district, surrounded by Republicans, the only way he is going to win is to say “Hey, I’m not like these people who are running this country into the ground.” He doesn’t have to scream Democrat 100 times, but he needs to mention it. It’s not a badge of shame. Pointing out to Republicans that a change is needed is not an attack on THEM, the voters.
Oh and Stephen, eat a dick.
Stephen — no FUCK YOU. Or did you not get that from what I typed previously? Here, allow me to spell it out:
F..U…C…K…Y…O…U
Not so much Courage, but for example Darcy Burner from yesterday – if you don’t define yourself strongly right out of the gate, your opponent will be only too glad to do it for you. The vacuum WILL be filled. And it won’t be pretty.
I like that the ad has a narrow target, I don’t like that it’s making a point that everyone agrees with (this seems too safe to me). I’m still shocked that people have faith in focus groups. From my experience in TV, they’re very unreliable, the biggest problem being the group itself. A roomful of people at a testing center does not replicate the circumstances under which someone would see the ad (I’ve never heard of television testing not being done in groups, I’d be curious if anyone has testing experience that involves watching as an individual).
BTW…this ad does kinda make me go uh.
The impression is that is the fault of congress, all of congress.
The impression it needs to leave is it IS the fault of the Republican controlled Congress.
Have you had enough yet?
Pach:
He certainly has the creds to do that. I’d love to see it.
What a dick.
Who’s driving the Trex?
Stephen’s point, I think, is that last night’s thread was a one-sided pile-on that brooked no opposition and was bullying in its tone.
My guess is that he doesn’t want to be more direct and explicit at the cost of provoking another round of it.
He made his point pretty clearly when he wrote:
…and later when he said…
I swore I was going to keep my mouth shut because I don’t really want a deluge of hostility to come my way, but I have to say, I felt the same way reading the posts last night.
I am a long term lurker/poster/fan/supporter of FDL, but I fled last night’s thread with a weird mixture of discouragement and disillusionment…and lacked my usual eagerness to return this morning.
Of course, FDL belongs to those who own and manage it, and they can do with it as they please.
But surely, critical readership has a place too.
Punaise’s snark @54 is an echo of last night’s tone. Personally, I find it regrettable.
If anyone really doesn’t get what Stephen is driving at, they should go back and read last night’s thread with an objective and sober eye.
Stephen at 99 — nice chip on that shoulder of yours.
From me, who used to live in Courage’s district, who still donates to his campaign and who has 20 years of ad experience:
Here’s the deal – we are NOT the target audience for this ad. Whoever mentioned upstairs that the Republicans focus test their ads – well, so does every big budget client in the world. Operative phrase: “big budget”. It takes time and $ to test ads, which the Democrats often lack (at least in the past).
This is impossible, I know, but try viewing it from another’s shoes, one who hasn’t pulled (or pushed) a vote for a Democrat in 20 years. That is the target audience.
While there are some copy adjustments I might make to tighten up the message a bit, this is a reasonable introduction to Courage for someone who who will need a ton of convincing to vote for a “D”.
In short, discussion or debating these ads is enlightening, but we’re the choir, the sweet spot. Hell, if you guys were my candidate’s constituency, I sure as spittin’ wouldn’t be spending precious $ on a TV media buy.
I agree with Stephen where he says to delete him quick.
There isn’t enough campaign cash to produce ads that are specific to as many points of view as have been evident here, so floundering around in the minutiae of the music and the focus and the tone of the narrator is missing the big picture. Are you saying that all of these things truly get in the way of the message? that John Courage failing to be angry enough weakens the message? If you heard the ad from the kitchen, would it resonate with you?
And consider that we are all reviewing the ad from locations that are far removed from the district Courage is targeting, and it renders what I think from Maryland or someone else thinks from some other state little more than interesting commentary.
Are there things to be learned from this exercise? Yeah. Good ads won’t ever hurt a candidate. But one person’s good is another’s so-so is another’s excellent is another’s piece of crap. I know it sounds wishy-washy, but the ad has to be broad enough to hit as many targets as possible, and this one did a pretty good job of that. I’m sure it won’t be the last ad he does, so there is room for improvement.
I was going to agree with that tiny point of Stephen’s, but his subsequent behavior on this thread is unacceptable.
Now is not the time for this discussion.
1. Well, I went and re-read the Pach link again. The whole premise is based on some poll Stoller et al did post-election. Are these guys qualified to do polls? Qualified to interpret polls? Have they received any professional training in poll taking? Has their post-election Ca-50 poll been peer reviewed? Other than those guys running blogs…are they qualified in poll taking?
2. Never-the-less, if one accepts their poll stuff as legit, then the Courage ad doesn’t seem to meet the criteria of their so-called poll. Possibly #6…possibly.
3. And even IF this Stoller at al poll is legit….how does/can one extrapolate results from a slice of California people as being representative of the thoughts of American voters thru-out the country?
Ghostman
Christy,
Decorum shall prevail. Flames just go down in flames. Stephen may be an (unappreciative) asshole, but the FDL community truly understands your commitment and waits with baited breath for your or your partners-in-crimes next post.
From my heart, Thank you FDL and the community of commentors for the discourse. America and Democracy is at stake. We shall prevail
FOC at 103 — Having missed last night’s thread (see sick toddler reference above) — Stephen’s “fuck you” tone was pretty clear to me from the get go. Constructive criticism has always been something that I’ve welcomed in every thread I’ve managed, and in reading Pach’s post today, I believe that’s exactly what he’s asking for as well, is it not? Refighting some battle from an old thread in a completely new one? That’s just some sort of grudge that’s been nursed along since yesterday. Beginning the discussion with “I’m glad we’re talking about it this way. Here’s what I see as good and here’s what they could do better.” That’s constructive.
It’s a serious issue, and I think it was handled with respect and dignity. It may not be the most innovative approach, however I think the way the media was handled suits the message.
Stephen @75, I found Burner’s ad totally insipid. There was no defining issue, merely an introduction of the woman and the layout and flow was, in my opinion, not that good. Visually, I felt that the Courage ad was better. Quality on YouTube is not that great. On TV, it will look better. In the Courage ad, I was engaged right away, as the shabby treatment of Veterans by this administration makes my blood boil. That’s an issue both Republicans and Democrats can get behind. We were asked to express our opinions. I believe I managed to keep from insulting anyone, either yesterday or today in expressing mine.
Stephen @ 80
Why, oh, why, would someone repeat the same whines over and over and then blame everyone else for not getting the “context” rather than consider that he’s not explaining himself well?
The closest thing you’ve had to a point is “these ads look about equal to me, why are people slamming one and not the other.” Yet instead of asking people why, you chose to declare that there’s “something weird going on” and attack those who disagree with you as “fair-weather liberals.”
But you didn’t use profanity, so I guess that means you win?
Feh.
I don’t think each and every ad by each and every candidate needs necessarily to hit hard, or even hammer accountability. And especially in that district, I think his soft-pedalling being a Dem. was shrewd (I am choosing to think of it that way rather than (O, not again) cowardly…)
But I do agree about the blurred visuals — too many faces coming and going and I did pay more attention to trying to see what was what, rather than listening closely to the words at time. So I think all the people who mentioned that are correct.
I’d also like to answer the question raised in the previous thread about who would volunteer to replace Rumsfeld: like, you know, Lieberman.
wow, pacachutec!
this is excellent advise for candidates.
thanks for printing it.
now if only candidates will start acting on it.
what do you think–
would it help if we organized a death squad to kidnap and ‘disappear” all those past democratic political consultants and advertisers (the bob shrum school) who preached the gospel of “don’t make any fuss, speak meaningless, treacly blather to voters, ignore media inaccuracy and dishonesty, and pray hard to god that he’ll let you slip meekly into power” ?
Anne @ 106
As one in the communications business, I’d say the tone would cause me to tune it out in the kitchen. He doesn’t have to be angry, but the tone is so flat throughout the piece that there’s no contrast between introducing himself, honoring the service of the vets, holding Congress accountable, or anything else.
The big picture is this: any ad has a brief amount of time to (a) capture the viewers’ attention, (b) hold it long enough to make its point, and then (c) end it in a way that makes the viewer hold onto that message after the next ad begins to roll. This ad doesn’t do that very well – or maybe I should say “This ad makes me think of the ad I wish he had done that would do this better.”
Anne @ 2:04
The blog article specifically asks for our opinions on the ad. I for one take this seriously, as a way to help good candidates get elected. I WANT our guys to win. If people don’t want my opinion, they don’t have to ask for it hehe. Or read my posts :) I did marketing work, so I mention things I notice.
If some people want a pat on the back about how wonderful the ad is instead, they should make that more obvious in the post :)
Pointing out the military losses, the broken promises, the suffering of the military families…that hits home to me. The music is solemn, a little sad, restrained…appropriate to the message. Again my only major gripes are noted above. If the pictures are too blurry too see though, I’m not going to see them hehe.
Thoughts after two views:
1. The script — particularly the first 30 seconds — is very strong, very concise, and makes his point well. Veterans have needs, and we’re not meeting them. The use of Iraq veterans makes the issue more topical (and is aligned to point #1, above). At about 30 seconds, the personalization of the issue to link it to the candidate is handled indifferently. Yes, his father died as a result of war wounds, yes he served in Vietnam — but rather than moving the argument forward, I find it distracting.
The “failure to fund” issue is not specifically linked to Republicans, and this may be wise. It may well be that his Republican opponent has voted in favor of full funding of VA appropriations. This does move the ad away from point #1, but it is aligned with point #5 (withdrawl vs. oversight).
2. The visuals don’t move me at all. I found myself thinking I’m watching a Powerpoint presentation. Just because you can fade and disolve doesn’t mean you should.
The image choice — including the use of images of Bush and Delay — sort of gets halfway there. If the imagery was more sensational the ad would risk alienating viewers. The thoughtful, somber tone and theme wouldn’t stand up to stronger images. But how the images are strung together isn’t as effective as it might be.
3. Sound — Peterr, above, noted the effectiveness of the music, but commented on the timber and inflection of the narrator (presumably, Courage himself) and the failure to change or modulate where one might expect a note of emotion or a softening. All I can say is that this is candidate finishing school 101. Don’t express through your voice. I don’t find it effective, but allegedly it provokes a positive response. I’d chalk that up to inside the Beltway bullsh*t.
I’d give the ad a weak “B.”
Now, it’s possible this ad might test out extraordinarily well in-district. If that’s true, and it’s hitting appeal points there, move it to a strong B.
as a vet, it caught my attention early in…I like that it focused on just one issue… I really can’t think of a better name for a candidate the “Courage”… I wanted to see what he looked like earlier… and I was intrigued enough to ask by the end – well, is he a Dem? (and frustrated that this was not part of the ad)… but other than that, it didn’t piss me off (which most political ads do)
well above average… maybe just a bit too long…
Anne @ 106
Should they be striving for “not awful?” One point that Pach flogs is that the system for Dems is to reward quantity, not quality, and that’s got to change. Nobody but us and the candidate suffers because of mediocre ads, but who cares, the consultants and admen got their money, and will again the next losing cycle. Our campaigns need to start rewarding results.
I have a tepid reaction to this ad, based on (I think) the darkness, the colors, the music, and it’s got a “just another political ad” thing about it. The music’s irritating.
We need an ad that people won’t shut off in their minds, because we need to be reminded that we have promises to keep, people.
But this ad doesn’t do it.
It needs to be more visually appealing. The message needs to be clearer.
I don’t know…maybe it’s just the moon phase and I’m cranky.
Stephen @ 98
And you are a perfect example of WATB!
Whine, whine, whine! Hi, I’m Stephen and I’ve got nothing of value say, but I whine real good.
I’m with Christy: Feck your little WATB-self.
Stephen @ 120
This goes counter to my every instinct to not feed trolls, but Stephen, why don’t go someplace else if you find the atmosphere incongenial?
Stephen at 120 — Whatever you have stuck in your craw about last night’s thread, it seems to me that taking it out on Pach is uncalled for — since it was not his thread that you appear to have a problem with, neh? And I picked up the FU vibe from you from your very first post — and it kept going as I read down the thread, which is exactly why I had the reaction I did.
OT -
Tomorrow is Cozumel’s birthday and we should give him a little cyber party.
*just trying to lighten the mood up a little. :)
Stephen: you need to take a chill pill.
moderators, we have a cleanup to assign to automod. kindly assist – tyvm.
It’s important to be clear that neither post criticized the candidates. No one criticized Burner last night. Everyone here, I suspect, supports her. There were many comments praising her. The discussion was about whether the ads put together by the ad consultants did what they should.
Last night’s discussion was not our best; but the irony is that today’s discussion was going fine until Stephen introduced exactly what went wrong last night — personal attacks instead of substantive comment. No discussion can survive that.
I appreciate how Pach introduced/handled the discussion today, learning from last nite. Unfortunately, Stephen just didn’t notice this difference, still stuck in last night, for whatever reason.
For those interested in other political ads, the Washington Post has what I believe is a new feature on their site – a collection of political ads from all kinds of candidates around the country, sortable by state, race, and various other ways to categorize the ads. It’s called Mixed Messages.
Haven’t looked at it much, other than to notice its presence – &#*$&% dialup – and see whose ads they’ve got up . . . but it might make a good resource for others with faster access to dig around to find some additional fodder for discussions like this.
(FYI – one Lamont ad, no Lieberman ads)
Oh, and in case anyone is wondering — the reason the focus has been on ads of late: we have a scant few weeks before the elections in November. Several Democratic candidates are just now beginning to introduce themselves through ads in their districts. The DCCC and the DSCC are content to allow people to coast along with the same old schtick — which has gotten us minority status in both houses of Congress the last few years. If there is to be any accountability for the Bush Administration, we have to pick up one or both houses. There is no room for mediocre — and the point needs to be made that the old campaign strategies simply are not good enough — for the good of all of us.
This is important stuff. But more important that the candidates themselves begin to not only know that they can get better — but that they DESERVE better than they are getting from these career Dem advisors who have been sucking at the campaign cash cow without producing good results for far too long.
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 103
actually, I wasn’t being entirely insincere. Robin’s comments about reactions to an ad were a major catalyst to that thread (for better or worse), so…
Christy Hardin Smith @ 131
I agree, fundamentally and wholeheartedly. Obviously, these aren’t easy waters to negotiate. But it’s vital that we, the netroots or whatever, break wide the bottleneck that is the overpaid (and underachieving) old school ad campaign advisers.
Christy @109, I watched the ad last night, and couldn’t see what all the fuss was about. It wasn’t one that I would have written, shot or cut, but I thought I could see the strategy behind it, and though it might be worth chipping in my two cents…but the rabid tone of the discussion, the bullying and intolerance, and the sense, as Stephen put it, “You make up your minds before you blog and then attack anyone who disagrees with you,” dissuaded me from even joining the conversation.
It is the first time since I first visited FDL (so long ago now I can’t even remember when) that I have been…well ‘afraid’ is too strong a word…maybe ‘unwilling’ to contribute. It just seemed futile – like trying to reason with a mob.
One of the reasons Iike FDL is that you have been willing to challenge the orthodoxies of the day, but the risk within any like-minded community, even a progressive one, is that they can establish their own unchallengeable orthodoxies.
I say this, not as a troll, or as a flamer, or as…hmm..how did oddball put it, an “(unappreciative) asshole”, but as a dedicated fan who appreciates the work you all do.
You said you don’t want to find
I think, att least at the beginning of this thread, Stephen was trying to make a valid constructive criticism, which is that hounding people out who disagree with the party line is not really a debate..roaring or not.
Pachacutec began this post by saying…
But if you look back on last night’s thread, there wasn’t much tonal space for anyone to review Burner’s ad…unless by review, you mean agree with the consensus of the thread.
This is the kind of mob attack that I am more familiar with on the right wing blogosphere, and I shivered at last night’s tone here at FDL.
Pach, Christy — are you in contact with the folks whose ads you’re running? I should think any campaign advisor worth their salt (well, ok, it’s Dems we’re talking about here…) would at least arrange for the PR head to review what we’ve got to say. But, sadly, I’m also thinking that all too many of them would end up, you know, defensive and resistant to any of our input. Any way we can finesse that? Or are you already?
Pach, I still want to know if Robin’s a man or a woman.
Speaking of broken military promises:
Full article here.
BC–in presidential elections, independents matter more. But off-year elections are nearly always turnout contests. In a normal off-year, you’d happily turn off a few points of independents for red meat to motivate the base. Republicans have been perfectly content to alienate some independents over the last few midterm cycles as long as they get out their own base. It’s worth noticing that they keep winning…
(This matches well the Falwell anecdote related above)
GM–yes the peope who did the mydd poll are qualified. The actual polling in the field was done by an experienced pollster. The analysis you see was by Stoller et al. I’ve more than once gotten into detailed statistical discussions with professionals, and they have a lot of respect for the mydd numerical work. The post-numerical analysis I think has to be judged on its own and whether it’s supported by the numbers–that’s a political subject, not a technical one.
gotta go feed the fam. later.
I agree with many of the other comments about sticking it on the Rethugs instead of Congress, etc. This is a much stronger ad than the Burner ad, but we can help them.
1. Lead-in. Where is this going? Maybe they needed a question or bold attention getting statement before the problem of unfunded veteran services. It seemed to start in the middle with the 18000 promises. Promises by whom? to whom? about what?
2. If “promises” is the theme they should have wrapped up with it at the end. Republicans say they support the troops but do they keep their promises to the veterans? Or John Courage has the Courage to keep the faith with the vets or something. There has to be a way to work with this candidate’s name!
3. The music sounds like a bad midi file and it’s creepy too. They need something more familiar. It doesn’t have to be patriotic but they need a melody that people will feel comfortable with. They should also use the trick to fade out the music under the narration so the most important words have no background music.
4. It seems weird to have the “I’m John Courage and I approve this message” in the middle. It interrupts the flow, IMHO.
5. Another thing I didn’t notice is if they said where this race is happening. If they did then I missed it.
Pach –
One stunning difference b/w both the Courage and Burner’s ads and the Lamont ad you link to and use as examples of “what’s right” is creativity. Lamont and his campaign staff take advantage of his personality and willingness to experiment in a very, very effective way.
I’d also bet money that four of Ned’s ads cost less than either one of the Courage or Burner’s ads.
Great discussion! (even with trolls)
FOC at 136 — see — now THAT was constructive. Thanks. I’ll go back and take a peek at the other thread if I can get time once the peanut goes to bed this evening (as it is, I have a few minutes only because it’s snack time and we’re watching a dinosaur movie at the moment *g*). Every once in a while, emotions do run high — it just may have been one of those threads — but, having not had a chance to read it as yet, it’s tough for me to say.
My dog, Strider, doesn’t fight. The only times we’ve had to stitch him up have been when he tried to seperate other doggies from fighting. I’ll jump in here anyway.
Since yesterday I’ve tried to get to know a bit more about how political ads are constructed and what works for ALL candidates and what works for Dems in the current environment.
Two observations: Burner is trying to gain momentum in a district with a rapidly changing demographic. She’s trying to shoot down the incumbent guy who caught (with more than a liittle outside help) the Green River killer at the same time the media is 24/7ing another high profile sicko. After watching her ad three times, I agree – it sucks.
Courage has good positives in a new district which is WAY Republican. His ad works better, but has the same amorphous and indistinct images and music as Burner’s. I disagree with the lack of a statement openly identifying him as a Democrat as being a negative.. I notice more and more pols of both parties doing that, both in broadcast media and in print.
Meanwhile CNN is raising our fear level – Blitzer and Wendy Sherman just combined “bomb” and “ticking” – as a workup to Joe the Ho.
HeirofPatriots @ 2:28
Now see that creepiness worked for me. It is after all about soldiers in Iraq, and we know a lot of them didn’t make it home alive. It’s like the music is commenting on that.
Gotta agree with ya here.
Christy -
I didn’t feel comfortable commenting on the thread last night either, just so you know. And I have a background in advertising and had some comments to make that might have been interesting. But I didn’t feel good about climbing in…
Freaked-Out Canadian @ 136
While that thread was not our finest hour, people do disagree here, AND DID ON THAT THREAD. The only ones who get flamed are trolls or the personally abusive. You are disagreeing here, and so far I don’t see you being attacked. Disagreed with, but not attacked.
Are we feeding trolls today?
The only other thing I’ll say about the thread yesterday is I thought it was kind of unfortunate we couldn’t tap into some of the really brilliant and thoughtful commenters here at FDL for a better discussion. It was too intimidating, in my opinion.
In what counts to me, if I were making a snap decision how to vote between the 2 candidates (Burner vs Courage) based just on these 2 ads (I know silly, they aren’t competing *g*), hands down that Courage would get my vote.
I’ve examined my thoughts as to why and it is pretty simple: Courage actually had something to say; a point to make, a stand taken!
Burner came across as a warm, fuzzy, cuddly teddy-bear type, but I never got a sense of passionate committment. It was more like: Hi, I’m a really nice person, so send me to Washington.
One other thing of note in my self-analysis: The question of their party affiliation didn’t enter the equation.
And, to be honest, I probably shouldn’t jump into the threads at all when I’m this tired. I’m having joint issues on top of the lack of sleep and sick toddler…and that just jacks the cranky factor up way too many notches. (Hence the enormous post that I started the day with this morning.)
Jenny from the Blog @ 146
I felt the same way, Jenny. Also today.
My take on this ad is that, given the conservative nature of the district, Courage has done an excellent job here. He has focused on the issue of fundamental fairness and loyalty to veterans, and the call for keeping promises made to them should appeal to the swing “values voters” who might want a reason to jump to the Democrats. It is a nuanced approach. He doesn’t take on the Iraq war, because in that district, that might not work at this point. But, who can credibly disagree that veterans have been treated abominably by this administration and its lapdog Congress? I like the strategy here.
Also, I think the graphics were interesting. It is hard to assess how this ad would appear on a regular television screen rather than on a You Tube clip, but my sense is that it will cause viewers to pay attention.
I also liked how he put the “honorable discharge” certificate in the ad. That will alert military-oriented folks, of whom there are plenty in his district, that he’s not only one of them, but is proud of it.
I say, good job, John Courage.
In contrast to the Darcy Burner ad discussed yesterday, this ad is focused, and has a controlled passion that will resonate.
Jenny — I hope you don’t feel that way at this point. Do you? I thought Pach’s piece was quite well done and spot on in terms of what he and I have discussed about some advertising holes that we have seen here and there.
Both of these ads softpedal their Democratic membership, and both seem focused on establishing the candidates as “regular folk”.
What everybody hated about Burner’s was its softness, its lack of comedy and irony, and its lack of an aggressive anti-Bush thrust.
Okay, true enough, and there wasn’t a lot of visual dazzle. But, my guess is, if you were aiming the ad at middle and lower-middle-class Republican voters with “family values’ on their mind, it wasn’t a bad introduction in a stealthy kind of way.
“Hey, nice lady…kinda like my neighbor…did she say she was a Democrat or a Republican?”
I loved Ned’s campaign, and his ads, but I though Burner’s ad, and Courage’s are on point in one really terrific way.
Remember, “It’s the economy, stupid!”
Well, this year’s campaign is clearly shaping up to be…
“It’s the competency, stupid!’
Both Burner and Courage come off as committed, thoughtful and competent people, far from the well-heeled Beltway mould.
In this respect, I think both ads are successful.
Marines to issue involuntary call-ups.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14468245/
Stephen @
134
I suppose it is.
Folks, when you decide that I’m some big character who must not argue, then you’re choosing to make yourselves small. I don’t do that, but maybe you do, if unintentionally. Everything I’ve done on this site and in Roots Project has been about empowering people in this community. Everything.
If I argue a point, I’m not a bully: I’m a debater. Beat me or prove me wrong, I’m fine, it’s all good. The point is to get to the truth. Censor yourself or attack me personally because you feel intimidated, and you’re censoring yourselves. If people cut off their own on-topic free speech because I’m advancing an argument, that’s not my fault and not my doing.
There is nothing I wrote in any comment last night that was disrespectful to anyone, except the person who called Jane a drunk and tried to do precisely what Stephen has tried to do here: make personal attacks and hijack a thread.
My point is, don’t sell yourselves short. If and when I argue with you, I’m respecting you, and not the opposite. If I had no regard for you I would ignore you. That’s not respect; that would be disdain.
We now return to our very illuminating discussion of this ad. . . hopefully.
Christy -
No, I don’t feel that way about this thread, at all. heh, when you get the chance to read it all the way through you’ll probably see the huge difference in tone. :)
I chimed in last night, both in terms of my opinion on that ad and also, at times (obviously neither very adroitly nor successfully), to try to calm things down. I don’t think it was anyone’s finest hour and I know I had to think twice every time I posted. That said, let’s all try a little harder next time (maybe provide those who come on too strong some constructive feedback and an alternative way to phrase their message?), and move on. Tension’s only going to increase exponentially between now and Election Day, and there’s a lot to be done.
Very good post Pach, great read and lots to think about and that’s always appreciated.
I guess I’m pretty much alone in liking the ad. I watched it, read some of the posts and then watched it again. IMO Burner’s ad was a channel changer and the Courage ad a watcher. I’m not and have never been an ad person, but I’ve been a comsumer a long time. That 18,000 grabbed my attention and I listened. I was bored after 20 sec. of the Burner ad and would use the remote.
It seems to me that if he criticizes republicans right off the bat, the republicans in his district could very well feel insulted and not even consider watching any other ads. IMO it’s a smart move for him to engage them with issues that they care about and if there is a large contingent of vets in his district, he picked a good issue to start with. Once they get to know him then I can see pushing the republican congress criticizm. Remember, those people are partly responsible for who is in congress, no sense rubbing their noses in it.
OT: I can’t watch the ad on this computer, and I’m too lazy at the moment to get the one working that I can view it on, so I’ll just comment about Chris Bowers’ analysis, which I find more interesting anyway.
First, let me say that Chris is a very astute observer of the political process. He’s trying to do what a good scientist would do, find explanations that match the data. That means more than just sitting there and contemplating one’s navel. It means you have to look at the data to see if they’re valid, and under what circumstances. Most of the political pundits and consultants the Democrats favor know less about this issue together than Bowers seems to know.
Anyway, point by point:
Good start. I think this should be expanded to cover the other areas voters care about – health care, high energy prices, declining employment. I also think that Democrats need to make clear what they believe should be the basic plan from here on. You can blame the Republicans for this mess, but if you don’t know how you want to go about fixing it, you’re not going to do what really matters. What really matters is fixing the problem, which is that we’re in Iraq and we don’t seem to be able to get out or make things better.
This sure seems to be true. When Joe Scarborough has two segments about “Is Bush An Idiot”, you know that question isn’t just on the minds of rabid lambs any more.
Best way to do this is to ask “Where were you when this mattered?”. Some incumbent Democrats will certainly have to phrase that question differently thanks to their own positions, but challengers certainly can use that message. The most damaging thing for Republicans should be their utter support for the effort, in view of the complete lack of justification, and their continued criticism of anyone who didn’t agree with them as being un-American and/or with the terrorists.
See above comment. The other thing is to make this local. In districts or states with ports, stress the lack of any meaningful screening of containers, which carry nearly all cargo into the U.S. Big cities ought to be concerned about how little help their first responders have been given by the Feds, who seemed to be too busy ignoring hurricanes to do any useful work in this area.
Well, some voters know that. ;) Others of us don’t always put two and two together on this issue. My first thought when I read that paragraph was “I wish I’d thought of that”. Might want to connect the dots there. A simple way of doing it is “The President runs the military. He’s responsible for choosing how they wage a war.”
Combativeness doesn’t work for everyone. Some of us only get combative when we’re really angry. I’d settle for clearly stating one’s positions on the issues that matter, and make sure people understand why that’s different from what the Republicans have been doing and continue to do.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 153
Today’s pach ad post is different than yesterday’s but still, even with the good point enumeration, the comment string has an uncomfortable feel. And what we’re dealing with here IS feelings. And, as Christy said – there’s an election coming like a freight train.
And it looks like Joe is about to get run over by that train. God, he sucks!!!
It feels like a rough draft. There is a story there and an a decent attempt at imagery, but the cinematography is incredibly bad. The instance of showing him behind the podium could have been done with out; he is slouching and looks a bit menacing. The content is spot on, but unfortunately it’s wrapping paper that Americans want these days. I think a second version of this, with a bit more attention to making it a photo essay, could be really powerful. As it stands, it’s forgettable despite the importance of its content.
Freaked-Out Canadian,
My only critique would be that it looked unprofessional, amateurishly produced.
Here’s how I score it:
Positives:
6. He picked a fight, and one that matters in his district. Good on him.
1. It involved Iraq, albeit tangentially. Weak plus.
5. Implication of the need for greater oversight – but really, really weakly.
Negatives:
2. Didn’t mention Bush at all.
3. Didn’t lay the blame on Republicans in Congress, or on his opponent.
And didn’t ID himself as a Democrat.
A lot better than Darcy Burner’s ad, but that’s a low hurdle. It’s not nearly as good as it might’ve been.
Republicans are using a sophisticated system of targeting likely voters that follows the traditions of marketing. They identify the buying habits, associations, magazine subscriptions …etc… and then work the message most likely to turn that particular voter. Its getting scary people. Its a science.
My $0.02 – the way Jenny and ET brought up their issue about feeling intimidated was perfectly appropriate as stated and where placed. Stephen is just being an abusive dick; he does not have the best interests of this blog or community at heart. I appreciate the moderators’ function in clearing out the distractors who don’t really give a crap about what this place is about. Seeing a hijacking like this take place every once in a while re-justifies the prudent censorship. And by the way, “freedom of speech” is your protection from the US government, not *ilson. :)
Professor Foland: ok, I’ll go with the idea that the poll was done by pros. Then, as I see things, those “6 rules” listed in the above article are the guide. My opinion of the Courage ad remains that he barely met one guideline…#6.
Oh, and Canadian: try not to sweat the small cadre of children who delight in running your ideas into the ground just because you differ. I’ve been called every name in the book by a very small number of “children” here. The majority of folks will treat you ok, even if they disagree with you. As to the children…they are what they are. Just a few little infants sitting up in their high chair, spitting up on their bib and banging their rattle.
Ghostman
Professor Foland @ 140
Prof F,
I’m not a student of congressional elections, so I’ll take your word for that. But, if congressional elections really are turn-out contests, then things start to get very difficult in districts that break more than 60-40.
This is one reason I’ve been on a redistricting hobby horse since the 2000 Census. Leaving districting in the hands of the politicians assures that we’ll have districting that protects incumbents in preference to districts that create competitive races.
BC
The battle for me anyway, is just about getting rid of the neo-cons. Stopping the wars. And electing Democrats.
Thanks Jenny from the Blog and Ed*ard Teller for chipping in.
I disagree with Bargain Countertenor suggestion that…
Troll-labelling notwithstanding, it reminds me of that great clip from 30 Days where an atheist is trying to make his point to a Christian about the “In God We Trust” on the money. The debate is fruitful and civil, until the Christian fellow responds with:
That’s a debate killer, and I think, in the long run, a community killer.
Marines to face involuntary recalls
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..roops_dc_4
Christy: Short version, last nite’s thread.
Same theme, by Jane – let’s review an ad; Pach/jane link to the post-primary poll analysis, but not everyone reads it, so we’re missing context and many don’t know anything about the candidate or region a priori, so Pach kept insisting that people go back and read. That may have annoyed some, but I understand the impatience. (note the difference today in giving us more info up front.)
Most of us don’t know polling from trolling, so most didn’t know how to critique the ad. Opinions were all over the map. It’s okay, it sucks, its blah, what’s the problem, who is this, etc. why are we doing this, and so on. We didn’t know how to do this, and folks became impatient, and Pach/Jane wondered why others did not see what their trained eyes were seeing. When folks are confused, the full range of personalities come out, and inevitably, someone(s) crossed the line, way over, taking a swipe at Jane. Folks held their breath, waited for Jane to respond, punaise hid behind the couch. Jane did her thing, to some applause. That was the first “Macy’s” window display.
It went downhill from there. Others got out of line and the moderators had their hands full behind the scenes. Bless ‘em.
Later some regulars tried to restore mutual respect, and defended others from what they saw were attacks, but the thread never quite recovered. Finally, Imman stepped in to say “enough.” That’s where it ended, as late-nite kicked in.
Aside from forgetting the rules about how to talk to each other — and every group breaks down, sometimes — a lot of the problem was not enough of us had enough context to participate constructively. Today, Pach tried to remedy that, and things went better today, until Stephen came to complain about last nite.
We’re learning.
Count me in the B- camp, for the reasons that portia.vz, Peterr, and tommy yum have laid out better than I could. I DO think “John Courage” is the best political name I’ll ever hear in my life, and the guy has a very listenable voice. Wish I hadn’t been able to tell he was carefully reading from a script, instead thinking he was free-styling from his heart (a la Ned). On take 2, I want to see him speaking directly into a close camera and making the point that he’s THE DEM running against Feckless Gooper Whoever.
(Oy, it’s rough to be spoiled on Hillsman ads at the very beginning of the campaign season, innit? Gonna get rougher . . . )
I laid down for a quick nap and awake to a flamewar — sheesh —
… first it’s Stephen, then it’s everybody and then IT’S ANARCHY !
Jenny from the Blog @ 146
Me either. :(
Folks –
One thing Pach did today in this thread — and it’s an effective tool in any situation where you want ehm vigourous discussion without open conflict — is to define the bounds of the discussion by providing an example, and a set of criteria to review against.
Being able to disagree with something by saying “I don’t like this because it doesn’t do X” is much more constructive than saying “I don’t like this.” One can constructively say, “I disagree, because it does to X for me, and this is why I think that.”
Boundaries are good. Disagreement is good. Disagreement where boundaries are respected, great.
Last night was a whole lot of piling on, saying “I don’t like this.” Boundaries NOT respected.
Now, off to feed His Excellency Prince Squishy Buddha, who believes his boundaries have been violated by being put on a strict feline diet. Goal — go from 18 to 14 lbs.
I’m just not that into the Stephen Trollbert Report
That was a great ad. I, too, did not think the Burner ad was that bad, but this ad is definately better. Burner should ask Patty Murry to join her and endorse her candidacy in an ad on VA budgets. Sen Murray has been one of the leading Senators in getting health care funds for the Iraq soldiers and she is very popular in Washington for those efforts. This theme could certainly work for her in Washington where there are so many military. Reichart, her opponent is a Bush shill and should be vulnerable if she wages a strong campaign. Reichart was police chief here and had strong name recognition, but he is not that well liked as a Repug in a strong Dem area. He’s an opportunist.
Too many messages to go through…but my impression.
PLUNK!!
I’m a Viet-Nam vet and I just don’t believe you will elections by appealing to wounded/disabled vets.
I certainly would not vote for anyone based on an ad like this. Who is his target audience?
Fell very flat for me!
I’m still wrestling with the thought that he didn’t identify himself as a Dem… BUT, if his district is heavily Republican… I guess when I hear the repugs go after a Dem (no matter how much I may like or dislike the Dem candidate), when the pugs say, “Democrat” with that look on their face that something tastes very, very bad in their mouth… it makes me vote for the Dem… even if the candidate is weak or crooked… I’ll just hold my nose and do it…
I suspect the pugs in the district might have the same feeling…
lotus @ 175
I don’t know if that’s good strategy in this sort of district, Lotus. This guy is running against an incumbent in a heavily GOoP district. He probably can’t win on D votes alone — he’s got to have thinking R votes, too.
Let them get to know him, understand that he’s one of them, and then maybe it’s time to make them consciously aware that he’s a Democrat.
BC
even shorter scarecrow @ #169:
“we’re learning”
Sheesh when did the regulars become so shy about expressing their opinions hehe. The posts ask for your opinion. Give your opinion, politely. What’s so hard? :)
Ban the trolls, smack the good people that cross the line, feed the moderators some pumpkin bread…and it’s all good!
I’m also in Courage’s district- will have to watch the ad after work – but I am concerned. I’ve seen nothing from/about him in local news, except a billboard on Broadway (main drag in main part of district). Also, after reading about him on FDL and other blogs I donated what I could and signed up to volunteer. Put in all my numbers. Response? Zilch. Nada. bupkiss.
That worries me, because that has been the response I’ve gotten in previous years from attempts to volunteer with the local Democrats, so I quit trying. Couldn’t even get anyone to come out to talk to me when I was IN the office.
I sure hope Courage isn’t listening to those folks and following their path. I want my money back if he is….
The more I think about Courage’s ad, the better and smarter I think it is. We have lots of kids who are either in Iraq or have just come back, here in Texas-21. My next door neighbor got out of the marines last fall after a tour or two. I don’t think focusing on Iraq being the huge mistake it is would do it for Courage in this district, because parents, siblings, & spouses don’t want to admit that their loved ones are fighting and dying for that idiot who sometimes lives up I-35 from here. But they can point their anger to the aftercare that is not there. I wish we were the kind of district that could enjoy Lamont-typpe ads, but unfortunately they would fly right over the heads of the people viewing them. Remember, this is where all W’s swell ideas got their start.
OT
Tommy Yum on air right now. Have you had enough?
Thanks for making me laugh, *ilson.
By the way, does anyone think…
…has legs. I really thought it was a brilliant turn on Carville’s part way back when.
If it does have legs, I should start printing t-shirts tonight….if I knew how to print t-shirts.
Pachacutec @ 2:38 pm (#153) – My problems with yesterday have nothing to do with your tone, but I agree with Freaked Out Canadian and Stephen. It was whacky yesterday, and not just in that thread. For me, it started with the article about Josh Marshall’s opinion piece and went downhill from there. There was clearly no point in commenting, so I, following Christy’s advice, I went elsewhere. I have a temper, too, and it was clearly not a place to be.
That’s the other reason I don’t feel like discussing this commercial.
scarecrow:
Good summary. Thanks!
Catching up with more of the comments that I missed while writing my previous one…
I concur with Peterr @ 60 about re-ordering the segments. His is a better narrative. Now the middle sort of fakes you out with that phrase that usually comes at the end.
Kurt, I understand your point about the creepiness underscoring the tragedy of the veterans, and for me it would be more moving if the music made me feel sympathy or empathy for the vets rather than aversion. Then I might be motivated to vote against the people who are hurting the vets. But music is highly subjective. I guess the big issue is what do the targets of the ad feel from it?
No, no, no, please, no James Carville. The damned “War Room” made celebrities of both Carville and Stephanopolous, and they’ve both had more than their 15 minutes.
Bargain Countertenor @ 2:48 pm (#165) – It’s a good hobby horse. I think that as long as it’s done the way it is now, redistricting is just going to help ensure that our government isn’t responsive to changes in the political will of the voters. Of course, too much of that can be a bad thing, but that’s what the Senate, the veto, and the courts are for. Too little sensitivity seems to be our problem right now.
what’s up with the stalker?
Another longterm reader/lurker,and rare commenter. Have to agree with FOC and Jenny from the blog and after seeing them speak out, I feel comfortable in doing so also.
Although I have no expertise in advertising, I disagreed with the prevailing viewpoint of the Burner add and the very negative tone/viewpoint of the post/thread. (I had no idea who she was so I found it helpful and I didn’t mind it at all).
Needless to say, I also stopped reading that Burner thread (rare for me)because it really hit what I felt was a low point for this site unfortunately. Imo, The threads/responses here are what makes this site sooooooo awesome compared to many others.
Today’s post was a much more constructively worded with it’s criticism..and I feel much more comfortable expressing my views here.
Today’s add…too long,too many small visuals changing too quickly, but I really like the single issue veteran’s health issue with the promises idea….18,000 new disabled vets from the Iraqmire stuck in my mind.
Yesterday I went and looked at Darcy’s website, and thought that it did a much better job at introducing her than the posted ad did.
Today, I did the same with John Courage’s site. Here’s the big introduction in the center of the page:
Again, the contrast between the vision of his web staff and the ad staff is stunning. The gap isn’t as big as it was with Darcy, but it’s still there. The website message is more focused, clearer at putting Courage in contrast with his (unnamed) opponent(s), etc. Between the web folks and the ad folks, the web folks get my vote.
Hmmm . . . two data points does not make a trend, but it’s an interesting observation. Any chance that we could get more web designers into the political ad game for TV spots?
tejanarusa @
181
Have you tried just showing up at the Courage campaign office and asking if you could help.
I don’t understand why people always want to wait for the campaign to come to them. If you really care, step up and go do something!
scarecrow @ 174
Well, I read the post but wasn’t able to participate in last night’s discussion, but I’ve gotta say, there’s just a little difference between a post that says “let’s discuss this ad” and one that basically says “well, this sucks!”
I’m not saying there’s anything wrong with either one, but it should be no surprise that the tone of the discussion is going to be different between the two.
Other than that, I think your comments are quite on target.
Peterr@60 and HeirofPatriots@190 -
Yes to the reordering, and yes to more emotion.
That the “I’m John Courage” drops at 30 seconds in the original suggests that the ad was meant for a 30 and 60 second format. Spend the money on the re-edit/re-organize for the long form: the ad would become extremely effective.
Interesting statement:
This is a patently false allegation. Yes there are a lot of dumbass political consultants (just as there are a lot of dumbass madison ave. agencies!) but there are plenty of folks who went to school and have the brains to figure this kind of thing out.
Also, just because this analysis of Ms. “2004 Sacrificial Lamb”’s campaign does provide insight into CA-50, one has to realize that this is not a definitive strategy that fits EVERY SINGLE DISTRICT IN THE USA.
Different areas have different constituencies, and it would be as foolish for the “net roots” to push one way of winning as it would be for the DCCC and the DC Dumbass Mob of Consultant to push their tired, BS campaign talking points.
Context, people, context. And remember, TV ads are sexy but not the end all be all of an operation. Put together with a cohesive, super targeted mail campaign, and a good field plan, well then! You might have something.
TV ads are fun to watch though. Maybe we can see some funny ones dis on Arnold. I’m not holding my breath though – netroots folks just don’t mind a Bushie is gonna take back Blue California from them I guess? ;-)
Any chance that we could get more web designers into the political ad game for TV spots?
And TOOT SWEET, Peterr! (Good job of research, by the way — my thanks.)
lotus @ 197
Mine too.
Gerbera @ 198
Or, to put a bit more positive spin on it, remember that overall, Republicans have more money and Democrats have more volunteers. Effective customer response is one of those things that’s easier to do with money than with volunteers. While it does suck not to get a response, the goal is more important than that. So do indeed go show up, and even after that, be patient as you would with any volunteer organization if they take some time to figure out what to do with you. And if you have the skills and inclination, volunteer to be the person who makes sure that all volunteers get a response within 72 hours!
God, dare I say it, but I think Stephanopolous does a better job than most interviewers at holding politicians feet to the fire and challenging them on their facts.
I love it when he goes after Republicans, but I was happy when he was both repectful and challenging to Ned…and gave him a terrific and fair forum to refute the lies and the slander that was being hurled about.
I think, because of George’s intelligence, preparation, fairness and professionalism, it remains one of Ned’s finest moments. It wasn’t a softball interview…there were some very, very tough questions but, unlike so much of the MSM interviews, neither was it sneering or demeaning.
And the Teddy stuff was a lovely bonus insight.
watched the ad again and I’m with Peterr… reorder the story…
Carville has not proven effective since 1992.
And he has worked for some evil clients, now chronicled in a documentary coming out 9/5 – working for the most anti Bolivian candidate for…the Bolivian Presidency….
And he’s married to that awful woman….done done done.
scory @
188
My thoughts:
* His reading lacks passion. It sound like he’s…well, reading. If he could punch it up a notch it would help a great deal.
* The images are too small, the transitions too soft. It makes it visually static and (combined with the monotone voice) saps the message (which is strong) of much of its effect.
–MarkusQ
FRESH THREAD!
Cut the verbiage in half. Have Mr. Courage speak slower and deeper. This is a serious and somber topic. Show Mr. Courage at the beginning breifly and close with him. Add “Republican” when he’s dinging Congress. Close with “I’m a Democrat and I WILL hold the Administration accountable. I WILL fully fund veteran needs; _I_ support the troops.”
Peterr@196 and Lotus@201 –
The PR firms that produce political ads generally segregate their production staff by discipline. Print and web and video creatives generally don’t mix. Not so true for more traditional ad agencies.
My gut tells me that the political consultants work over the video and print ads more than the digital media. That alone, IMHO, would dumb down the product. ;)
I wonder if it wouldn’t be better to begin with the promise we made to the larger number of veterans John mentions about a third of the way through (from previous wars) and then say “We have 18,000 more promises to keep…”
I was confused by “We have 18,000 more promises to keep” as the first statement; when the ad was finished I thought, not everyone has someone in Iraq (part of the problem—no skin in the game) but many many have a relative who needs veterans’ services due to their participation in other wars. This brings the benefit of keeping promises to fund veterans services home to more voters and helps keep this a pretty bipartisan ad (my impression of what John Courage is going for).
Also, I think most everyone believes we owe returning vets this support after putting their lives on the line, so when you hear the first number (24 million), and then the 18,000 added to that, you might think in the back of your mind “and how many more before this is over?” which makes you not only consider the inhumanity of the war, but also the hit to your pocketbook with each additional injured veteran.
caveat* I’m trying to hear this as my Republican friends and relatives might…
I was touched by that ad. One of the best campaign ads I have ever seen.
First time poster anywhere, but big FDL fan. BC is right. Republicans are only now coming around to the fact that the last 6 years have been a big lie. Adjusting to that realization requires a more gentle, less in-your-face touch.
MarkusQ @ 3:14 pm (#203) – His reading lacks passion. It sound like he’s…well, reading.
That’s why folks hire actors to do voice-overs. Even folks who are good public speakers can sound unconvincing reading copy. That’s particularly true if they either don’t quite believe it or has some hangup about the subject. Sounding convincing in voice-overs takes practice, and most folks don’t have the time or inclination to practice that much.
zAmboni @ 21
I’ll add
(4) some mention of what R’s did squander our money on– subsidies for oil companies, no bid contracts for big campaign donors, etc. It’s not necessary to make this list long. But must avoid Rove’s viral lie about “tax and spend democrats”
Kurt @ 146
I actually liked having the attribution part in the middle. In the vast majority of ads, the attribution is tacked on at the end like a bad graft, and completely disrupts the flow/impact of what has gone before. Working it into the flow of the narration made it more organic and less obviously “artificial,” and allowed the ad to end on the desired message. I wish more ads would do something like it.
I live in the Texas 21 district, in Austin, where John Courage is running against Lamar Smith. Some background; TX 21 is one of the districts that was gerrymandered by Tom DeLay to ensure a Republican would hold the seat. It stretches from the south west part of Austin all the way down past San Antonio. Actually Austin was split into three districts (11, 21, and 25) all of which stretch off for huge distances, one even to the border of Mexico, over 230 miles away.
I’d say that his ad is a good start since it should work on moderate conservatives and vets. His campaign headquarters is in San Antonio, and his ads are going to be geared to those that live there. San Antonio is home to Brooks City Base, Fort Sam Houston, Lackland Air Force Base, and Randolph Air Force base. There is a huge concentration of retirees in San Antonio, as well as active duty personnel.
I’d say his next ads should concentrate on failures of the Republicans, health care, pensions, and other topics.
Anything to get rid of Lamar Smith who has been a total right wing hack, supporter of Tom DeLay, and the crooked republicans.
Pachacutec – I love this media critique idea of yours. What a wonderful follow up today with your lists. So sorry I can’t dl this one with a flash 7 error msg. That’s a new one for me. Anyway the experience of our pupsters in media can only help out in the long run. Worked on a few major motion pictures, music videos and commercials myself. My favorite small business commercials were made for under a thousand dollars.
one thought on the early mention of attacking the Reps. For a newcomer running for congress one may want to belittle the current congress (most of both parties) who have historically low poll numbers. Especially a Dem candidate who receives little or no support from their party and may be in need of some purple or red votes. So this omission of party maybe intentional or even helpful for outsiders.
I do agree with the necessity of naming your party in an ad.
My favorite ad slogan especially for those with low budgets. Keep it simple stupid. Kiss.
lemma @ 210
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Thanks, Freaked out Canadian! Well put, empathically agree.
I clicked on the video with apprehension wondering what terrible error was contained within. Finding none, I read the comments with wonder and some dismay. Had Jane introduced the ad with the same tone as this post, it’s unlikely there would have been that kind of response. Jane’s one of my heroes, but calling Darcy’s campaign ‘trashed’ because of one lousy ad was an error. And the ad isn’t even all that bad. This district has been in Republican hands since it’s creation in the 70’s and has only lately been shifting blue. It is unlikely to respond to a strongly partisan message from someone they’ve yet to know. Darcy can and has spoken to her base in more partisan settings.
This state’s Senate campaign features a partisan Republican candidate doing better than most incumbent Republicans by using a friendly & folksy TV campaign (in which he lies, of course). We just barely escaped having a wingnut governor (cut from Senator Macaca’s cloth) who used exactly the same approach. So there’s reason to believe that kind of marketing works in these parts. I agree that taking this administration and the Republican record to task would be a better approach, but if constructive criticism is what you’re looking for in comments (and properly so), then let’s start with the posts themselves.
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Gerbera 198 – why haven’t I shown up? I can’t figure out where it is…when I last looked at the website, there was no address.
#6. Pick a fight, any fight.
I agree:
If you want an audience, start a fight.
-Gaelic proverb
I like what Rahm Emanuel (chairman of the Illinois Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee) said in the L.A. Times back in May. It all comes down to Bush and his enabler Congress:
“Truman sacked MacArthur. Clinton fired Aspin. It’s up to the White House and Congress to make heads roll over mistakes in Iraq.
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The secretary of Defense has a lot to answer for, but the American people did not elect Donald Rumsfeld. They elected the president and the Congress. The president must be held accountable for deciding to stick with failed leadership — at a tremendous cost to our nation. And this Congress must be held accountable for letting him get away with it. After three years, nearly 2,500 lives and half a trillion dollars, it’s clear we went to war with the leadership we had, not the one we needed.”
I work in advertising, for whatever that’s worth.
This is a dreadful ad. It is wordy, ugly and I have no idea what the main point is. Congress bad? Veterans good? Courage for something?
Sheesh. What a train wreck.
Even in a red-red-red district, the guy is in fact a Democrat. The fact that he projects fear about this makes him even weaker.
This ad breaks just about every rule in the book.
I guess we can’t have strong campaings in every district. Let’s hope we see some substantially better work soon (like Spitzer’s, Lamont’s, etc.).
tejanarusa @
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Best on this topic I’ve seen so far, but:
1. Be careful of tripping over Bush, we are not challenging him. Focusing critiques on him has never worked and is certain to fail in ‘08. His administration was enabled by Congress in huge ways. Senator “Plain Talk” was a part of that rubber stamp as was every other right winger (hear me Joe?).
2. Iraq is not the WOT. The distinction needs to be drawn and pounded into every WOT response.
3. “Cut-and-run? You mean like they did in Torra Borra?” is better than “I’m not saying we should cut-and-run.”
4. The next SOB that appologises for speaking the truth should be run outta town on a rail. This is not a game where being nice counts for anything anymore.
Keeping those in mind, someone could put together a media DB with clips of speaches and other on camera statements that can be released to the media as soon as the attacks come. We should have already released those clips of everyone sweatting about those WMD in response to rubber-stamp Joe’s comments about Iraq never being about WMD. DKOSPEDIA is a great resource and there are several others out there, but we need a youtube-like resource. Things are much harder to refute when its on film.
The ad has a message but one that could have been made much more effectively with fewer words and fewer moving images. The voice-over is too flat, basically a monotone, and the music doesn’t match the flat voice. I think of this ad as more of a draft ad that would get worked over to make it production quality.
The ad is far more effective than the Burner ad. Her ad left her open to being easily defined by the opposition. If I were her opponent, I’d say she was a nice woman and well-intentioned. The subtext of my message would be that Darcy Burner isn’t tough enough to go to Washington and fight for you. I am.
The simple fact is that when the country has troops fighting in a foreign land, there is a huge hurdle to overcome to show that you have what it takes to help make the decisions about war and peace and to hold the Administration accountable for its misdeeds and incompetency. Voters will ask themselves, is Darcy Burner tough enough to make the tough decisions in Washington, D.C.? Is she tough enough to hold the Bush Administration accountable for its disasters? As a former Sheriff, they know her opponent is. While they may not like what he has done in Washington, Darcy Burner will still have to climb over the hurdle. Had she been an elected official, this would have been easier for her to do. This would be true whether it was a man or a woman running in the race. Candidates who are running for elected office for the first time have to clear the hurdle of electability and this is even tougher to do in a time when the country has troops involved in conflicts halfway around the world. Courage’s military service helps him make that leap. Darcy Burner has a higher hurdle to clear. Her ad doesn’t set her up to do that.
My perspective may be slightly different since I’m looking at the ads from the standpoint of someone who has run “Challenger” campaigns for the other side in the past. One thing that I could always count on was that Dem political consultants never seemd to understand that ads not only have to define who you are and who your opponent is, the issues that the campaign will be fought over but also, they have to be offensive and defensive at the same time. In other words, strong, effective ads will inoculate the candidate against his/her weaknesses from the get-go. You don’t want to give the opponent any opening to set about defining your image to the voters by using your own campaign commercials and images against you. ;-) Darcy Burner doesn’t have the time or the money to waste on milquetoast ads like this one. She needs hard-hitting, short, effective ads defining her, the issues and her opponent. Also, those long ads are a waste of precious resources. Make the ads short and meaningful, in other words, pithy. Make the graphics and images bold. It’s far better to play a short ad many times than to play a long, boring ad a few times. The average television viewer and voter have short attention spans. ;-) Also, don’t forget that all of the communications have to be mutually reinforcing or you could come off as insincere.
On a related note, the Darcy Burner ad also doesn’t work on another level. It was weak and its presentation was weak. The lack of passion makes her appear to be just another “political candidate” and that’s not a winning recipe for success when the electorate is in an “anti-politician” mood. No more mood prices, please.
Sorry, typo … no more mood pieces, please.
How ’bout we just show footage of the dead in New Orleans and the dead from Iraq with the tag line that says “Vote for those who can’t anymore. Honor our dead by voting against the party that continues to let all this happen. Vote Democrat.”
Jon, excellent analysis. I like especially your observation about the ads having to be at once offensive and defensive, to provide the kind of preemptive inoculation you describe. Question: do you see this as doable in every ad, or merely necessary as part of a multi-ad strategy, perhaps especialy right out of the gate?
Christy Hardin Smith
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Dear […] and every other armchair critic:
Thanks, Christy, I needed that.
Pach, this is a tremendous post, and idea for mobilizing the toobz to help with the campaign this fall. Regarding Mr. Courage’s ad, I’ve only watched it once, and then read some of the comments. I like the choice of issue, assuming of course that he will come back with several more later, but agree that the presentation could be punchier.
I liked Peterr’s idea of changing the order in which the elements of the ad are laid out, so that Courage’s own experiences and those of his father lead into the 18,000 promises (great theme, that) segment. This introductory part would also be a good time to show Mr. Courage talking on camera briefly, then transitioning into some soldier/veteran imagery, with some plain words describing how there’s always a promise implied in the relationship of citizen-soldier to the government. I bet this can be done in around 20-25 seconds; think Bonasera at the beginning, briefer and less chiaroscuro, and having images that describe the veterans’ plight shift into the main focus so that at the end of that time we’re looking at them and not Mr. Courage.
Then the screen with the words “18,000 promises,” followed by a brief blackout, and the criticism of the Republican Congress for taking millions away from veterans’ health programs while voting billions for Halliburton. There must be some good visuals of wounded veterans on the one hand and slaphappy Congrescritters on the other to go with that.
Hi Pachacutec,
Any candidate that is running as a Challenger has to inoculate themselves against the weak spots in their candidacy at the kick-off and as the issues in the campaign emerge. A candidate who has never held elective office before has to define themselves early, before the opposition can. This is done through defining the issues you want to run your campaign on and hence the battleground you want to fight the race out on and by letting voters understand why you’re the one they need in Washington fighting for them. A Challenger, in general and in particular for those candidates who have not held elective office before, can never ever let themselves be put on defense or they’ll never recover. A Challenger that has not held elective office before will have two hurdles to climb in their campaign … (1) electability and (2) are they tough enough. They both play into each other. While showing that one is tough enough to get the job done, one is also leaping over the hurdle of electability. In the process, one is also defining oneself.
Aggressive Challengers win. Even with an electorate in an “anti-politician” mood, Darcy will have to be aggressive in taking the race to the incumbent. That doesn’t mean she needs nasty, mean ads. Quite the opposite, it means she needs hard-hitting ads that highlight what’s wrong with the status quo and why she’s the one who can change it. Having a message of change isn’t enough to get one to the finish line. Unfortunately, I’ve learned this the hard way. ;-) The electorate may want change but to get the last 3-5% that puts you over the top requires that people believe that you are the one who can bring the change they want. Nice, warm fuzzy ads that you think your Republican grandmother will like won’t do this. Trust me. ;-) And focus groups give you the politically correct version of what people think they should say. That’s part of the problem with Washington consultants. They don’t understand this either, I guess. Reading the polling data is like reading tea leaves. There are more effective methods to get the intelligence you need to run an effective campaign tailored to your district.
So, I guess the short answer is that the hybrid of offensive/defensive ads really will be played out throughout the campaign. However, it’s critical at the kick-off. The trick is to anticipate on which issues the incumbent wants to play the election out while moving the playing ground to your issues. If you can manage to move the playing ground while weakening your opponent at the same time, then you can move an election 3-5% on limited resources.
Another point, a Challenger can have all the money in the world but if they can’t make the sell, it won’t matter. In other words, if they can’t convinve that last 3-5% of the electorate that they’re the one who can bring the change they want, then all that money was for not. That’s why I agree with Jane and you that the Burner camp need to understand this now. In a month it might be too late to change course. Unless the other campaign is totally incompetent. ;-)
And one other point … it seems that the blogosphere opinion is that Dems don’t look at races after-the-fact to understand why their candidate lost. Republicans have been doing this starting with Nixon. ;-) I’ve never worked on a Challenger campaign that we didn’t try to understand why the previous candidate lost and why the incumbent won. ;-)
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Bravo!
I think it was a good ad. He can punch up his own service by making that part of the ad shorter. He could break the news that he is a Democrat to his heavily Republican district by saying his CO was a Republican and on the battlefield they worked together to get the job done.
If my sources are wrong, then I can concede this. What I hear is that on the occasion when any post mortem is acually done, the questions in play are framed in such a way as to vindicate the prevailing strategy more often than not. This may not be intentional, but it has the effect of insulating the prevailing players from accountability or learning.
For example, public and private polls have long shown that the majority of public is way, way ahead of either party on Iraq. I’ve seen well done private polls that show that, in 2006 swing districts in particular, the most energizing, galvanizing message is one supporting strong accountability and borad based direction change for the country (domestic and foriegn policy), discussed bluntly and in terms of American values. And yet, the Democratic party under Chuck and Rahm’s people is positively allergic to this. It’s hard to explain this in terms other than myopic naivete or groupthink, most charitably interpreted.
Thoughts?
Question:
Why are they starting with a specific issue, rather than with an overview. This Republican administration is terrible on every front — corruption, war, soldier’s health care, the environment, listening to the people, tax policy. Why not give them the big picture first — then break it up like we used to in the olden days into domestic and foreign policy — or something? It is a moral quagmire everywhere you look.
Back to Darcy Burner’s ad: I did not comment about it yesterday but I thought about it overnight and I can say that what bothered me most about it is that the candidate herself sounded weak and inept in her speaking parts.
Contrasted with the slickness of the package, they had her weak wavering voice peeping a few things. That was really the worst part of it for me.
Certainly the people who made the ad must have seen that. They are saying in that ad — here is this weak little pipsqueak with inflated intentions. They are setting her up for failure because they trust their big slick frame but they don’t trust her voice.
I know that if she got this far, and if she is a netroots candidate she stands for something and has a lot to say. Let’s hear it for x’s sake. Get that schmaltzy frame out of the way, and let some people interview and record her who believe in what she has to say, who can hear and believe her message. The people who filmed this ad certainly do not.
Now about Courage, he sounds strong and that is better, but picking out this singular issue to start with, makes him seem to lack courage for making any bigger statements. Well, I thought, those are strong words but he sure picked out safe territory before speaking up, didn’t he.
Support the troups. Shortchanging healthcare for returning vets is a symptom of the whole Republican worldview, it is morally indefensible, it is a travesty that they could do this and try to get away with it — but it is also LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE they do.
Addendum: http://www.mydd.com/story/2006…..3#readmore
Glenn says the criticism about the folly of leaving out the “Democrat” label in this district is uninformed, echoing some other comments on this thread.
Hi Pach,
Thanks for the follow-up. I can’t speak to the inside workings of Democrat consultants. I’ve only worked on the other side. I can speak to the results of those Democrat consultants and offer a critique, from the other side, of what I think are some of the mistakes that Dem consultants tend to make over and over.
If we were chatting at a Starbucks I could run you through the war stories and lore about campaigns and how we (the other side) got them wrong the first time but self-corrected the next time and won. Sometimes it takes three times out to get a win. I can’t speak about how Dem consultants look at lost races but I can speak about how I learned to look at them. In one of my first House races, in a lean-Republican district with a conservative-moderate Dem representing it, we lost a race we should have won. Why? When we went out into the field the next day, we learned that we hadn’t effectively nuanced the campaign. We ran a campaign focused on base turnout which should have been effective in a lean-Republican district. What went wrong? We ran to the right and in the process lost enough moderates and indies for the incumbent to eke out a win. We didn’t make that mistake the second time. We ran to the right and the middle and against the left (him). ;-) That district hasn’t elected a Democrat to this day.
Why candidates lose depends on the characteristics of the district. If you have a Republican candidate running in a lean-Republican district and he loses it’s because you didn’t have the right candidate (wrong stance on the issues for the district, wrong personality, big gaffe in the closing days, candidate not aggressive enough, etc.), ineffective political operation (ineffective get-out-the-vote, poor media, not enough money, uncoordinated communications, poor strategy, lack of proper nuance, etc.), a combination of the two or the incumbent is the right person for the job.
Some people on the Dem side might not agree with what I have to say about running campaigns. But I believe that the other side has a far more effective play book for House and Senate campaigns. The Burner ad is one of the same old, weak ads that the Dem consultants turn out year after year. It doesn’t work for a challenger. And it can do harm. If you run ads introducing your candidate as this nice young woman and then follow up with some really tough attack ads later, it creates a discordant image in the minds of voters. More effectively, introduce the candidate as a strong, smart wife and mother who is passionate about bringing needed change to Washington and is confident about what changes need to be made.
I agree that accountability is the linchpin for Challengers this year. How it plays out in each district across the United States will be somewhat different depending on the particular characteristics of the district. For example, the nuance and the issues focus will vary from district to district. Pick 3-5 issues and explain how these needs are not being met and how Dems can meet them. This can be tied into why we need to resolve the mess in Iraq.
In a lean-Republican district with a large concentration of military and military retirees, veterans benefits and health care can be one of the three to five issues. Healthcare is a universal issue.
Polling data shows that a majority of the American people have lost confidence in this President. In a lean-Republican or swing district, one way to approach the issue of Iraq and accountability is to engage the voter by looking to the past and using it to show how the lack of leadership led to the Iraq mess and why a change in Washington is needed. For example, contrast Lincoln’s approach to the Civil War with Johnson’s approach to Vietnam. Lincoln brought diverse opinions (former Democrats, Whigs) into his cabinet. By enlarging his circle of advice he was able to make better and more informed decisions on how to conduct the Civil War. There were times when the prospects for victory were bleak but his decisions based on these diverse opinions, even in these bleak periods, led to victory. Contrast that with Lyndon Johnson. He did not enlarge his circle of advisers but instead shrank the number of people from whom he received advice. We know what happened in Vietnam. George W. Bush is more Lyndon Johnson than he is Abraham Lincoln. Johnson couldn’t admit his mistakes and therefore he could not correct course. George W. Bush and his Cabinet have yet to admit the mistakes they’ve made. How can they change course when all the advice they get from the Republican-Stamp Congress is just that … a rubber-stamp for the same old, failed policies. We know change is needed. The Dem candidate can say, “I will be the voice of the change that is needed in Washington. My opponent is a nice man/woman but unfortunately, he/she is just another one of those rubber-stamps in the Rubber-Stamp Congress. He/She can’t and he/she won’t bring the change we know is needed now.”
I happen to believe that Karl Rove made a strategic mistake in not having Bush dump Rumsfeld and replace him with a high profile Dem. Then the Republicans could have run on a campaign where Bush and the Republicans admitted mistakes, have learned from them are making the needed changes. The current Rove strategy for the November elections is predicated on a passive Dem response to the Iraq quagmire and the War on Terror.
In Lean-Republican and Swing Districts, if I were a candidate I’d say something along the lines of … Iraq is in the midst of a Civil War and our troops should not be the policeman in an internal power struggle. I would also talk about how using our military as policeman in a civil war changes the mission of the military from one of fighting to defend our freedoms to keeping the peace among rival political groups in a foreign land. We must wind down in Iraq. The danger of staying too long is not just the additional lives that will be lost and the additional billions that will be wasted, but that we will seriously degrade the fighting effectiveness of our military. (A good example of this exact problem is the IDF in Lebanon.) Being bogged down in Iraq degrades our ability to fight the war on terror. When talking about Iraq, it’s important to use the words of Sen. Hagel to back up your points. This approach works with conservatives (they abhor foreign adventurism and are aghast at using the military as the world’s policeman), Republican-leaning Indies and Libertarians who normally vote Republican.
Another tie-in to Iraq and domestic and foreign policy are all the things not being done because of being bogged down in Iraq.
I believe that the establishment Dems are risk adverse. There are some pitfalls that one has to avoid when talking about Iraq. A candidate has to be very careful not to allow their opponent to miscontrue anything they say about Iraq. They can’t allow themselves to be seen as advocating or saying anything that could be claimed to be, in effect, undercutting the troops. Our troops performed bravely and admirably in Iraq. They won the war. The political leadership in Washington failed them and us. They lost the reconstruction and they lost the peace. Our troops should not be asked to be policemen between rival factions in a foreign country. This is not their duty. Also, one should never say anything that would imply that any of our troops died in Iraq in vain. The American electorate, in general, will not accept this.
The advice of picking a fight is effective for challengers if it causes the opponent to engage you on your issue. However, not any old issue will do. It has to be an issue that will differentiate you from your opponent and that the electorate cares about. If it’s not an issue that will move votes then it’s not politically effective to pick a fight on that issue. A good example of an effective issue is the Stem Cell debate in Missouri. It helps Claire McCaskill and hurts Talent. McCaskill can peel off some votes from Talent on the issue.
Politics is both art and science. On the other side, Reagan’s team brought the art while the old movement conservatives brought the science. They were very successfully wedded in the Reagan Second-Term campaign. Check out the Morning in America commercials (political ads).
This ad is much better than Darcy’s (as a political ad). Both ad’s work on introducing the candidates, but while Darcy’s is so blatant about it that it seems almost desperate, this ad does it subtly. The “goal” of the ad is to address the issue of veteran’s care – but in doing so it weaves the background story of John and his family.
Of course, the issue is also a cleverly chosen safe one – akin to being for saving cute puppies – noone’s going to disagree. But it also has a small chance of getting some traction if the media picks it up.
Also, John sounds much more polished than Darcy (not completely natural, but pretty good.)
This one is a 6/10 (and given the information as to it’s source in the update, maybe it should get a 8/10 on a curve…)