Comments on: Those Crazy Lamont Supporters http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:27:05 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: FighttheFuture http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-258782 FighttheFuture Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:23:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-258782 <p><a href="#comment-255127"><em>mui @<br /> 188 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-255114"><em>HotPotatoMash @ 177</em></a><br /> Everyone here I think has had their Lieberman moment: that defining point where they’ve figured out that Lieberliar is a right-winger. For some it was Clarence Thomas and censorship. For others it was Alito, social security, etc. etc. The war of course is a big reason as well. It’s those defining moments that inform the current discussion I think.</p></blockquote> <p>For me, it was the sloppy blow-job he gave to Dick Cheney during the 2000 VP Debates. That’s when I started looking into this schmuck and suspected something was wrong with him. Since then I now believe he is a RW plant (perhaps unwitting due to his self-absorbed narcissism) to destroy the “D” in Democratic via the DLC virus. After all, William F. Buckley supported him when he first ran for Senate! </p> <p>I will gladly loose 3 house seats and chance him winning as an Independent Republican to send a message to Holy Joe and Fucktards like him - “shape up or be shipped out”! As a Senator, he does more damage than any Repuglican. Fuck Joe Lieberman.</p> mui @
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HotPotatoMash @ 177
Everyone here I think has had their Lieberman moment: that defining point where they’ve figured out that Lieberliar is a right-winger. For some it was Clarence Thomas and censorship. For others it was Alito, social security, etc. etc. The war of course is a big reason as well. It’s those defining moments that inform the current discussion I think.

For me, it was the sloppy blow-job he gave to Dick Cheney during the 2000 VP Debates. That’s when I started looking into this schmuck and suspected something was wrong with him. Since then I now believe he is a RW plant (perhaps unwitting due to his self-absorbed narcissism) to destroy the “D” in Democratic via the DLC virus. After all, William F. Buckley supported him when he first ran for Senate!

I will gladly loose 3 house seats and chance him winning as an Independent Republican to send a message to Holy Joe and Fucktards like him – “shape up or be shipped out”! As a Senator, he does more damage than any Repuglican. Fuck Joe Lieberman.

]]> By: mui http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256504 mui Tue, 22 Aug 2006 14:38:59 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256504 <p><a href="#comment-255228"><em>HotPotatoMash @ 213 </em></a><br /> I understand the war provides a huge imperative. And Lieberman’s statments regarding Iran provide even more imperative for me. But a Lieberman who is fighting a one-issue candidate is much less stricken than a Lieberman who is fighting a prochoice, antiwar, pro-universal healthcare etc. etc. coalition. He has to defend his horrible record on all fronts. And for me quite frankly, HoJo’s behavior during the Alito debacle was the straw that broke the camel’s back (You see I am a “constituent.”) I think you should see this as whatever lights a fire under our asses will lead to the greater good here which is ending the war.</p> HotPotatoMash @ 213
I understand the war provides a huge imperative. And Lieberman’s statments regarding Iran provide even more imperative for me. But a Lieberman who is fighting a one-issue candidate is much less stricken than a Lieberman who is fighting a prochoice, antiwar, pro-universal healthcare etc. etc. coalition. He has to defend his horrible record on all fronts. And for me quite frankly, HoJo’s behavior during the Alito debacle was the straw that broke the camel’s back (You see I am a “constituent.”) I think you should see this as whatever lights a fire under our asses will lead to the greater good here which is ending the war.

]]> By: J http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256472 J Tue, 22 Aug 2006 13:59:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256472 <p>Tasini</p> Tasini

]]> By: donna http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256134 donna Tue, 22 Aug 2006 05:38:32 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256134 <p>I’m ditching Josh. I’m tired of the unqualified support of AIPAC there.</p> I’m ditching Josh. I’m tired of the unqualified support of AIPAC there.

]]> By: Beef http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256054 Beef Tue, 22 Aug 2006 04:32:49 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-256054 <p>Josh Marshall’s only concern is for his MSM career. He is so worried about gilding his writing lilly that usually ends up sounding like a low budget version of CNN.</p> <p>One thing I like about blogs is they are willing to stick their necks out and take on the establishment. You won’t find this guy so much as getting his hands dirty if it’s going to affect his career.</p> <p>He’s a prissy pants with his finger to the wind. He’ll fit in well at the cocktail parties. Perfect MSM material.</p> Josh Marshall’s only concern is for his MSM career. He is so worried about gilding his writing lilly that usually ends up sounding like a low budget version of CNN.

One thing I like about blogs is they are willing to stick their necks out and take on the establishment. You won’t find this guy so much as getting his hands dirty if it’s going to affect his career.

He’s a prissy pants with his finger to the wind. He’ll fit in well at the cocktail parties. Perfect MSM material.

]]> By: sanmateo http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255964 sanmateo Tue, 22 Aug 2006 03:40:42 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255964 <p>I have been surprised at Josh Marshall’s take on Lieberman. To me, Lieberman is a Repug in Dem’s clothing and he has appeared that way consistently from his absurd stand on Clinton’s impeachment to his obsequiousness in the Cheney debate to his incredible unconscionable take on rape victims and their access to abortion in Conn. It’s time for Dems to act like Dems and Lieberman is not a Dem worthy of the title. Lamont is the person for the job. This Orwellian world we’ve been living in has got to stop. Furthermore, impeach Bush; he’s a dangerous and destructive influence on the world. Enough is enough.</p> I have been surprised at Josh Marshall’s take on Lieberman. To me, Lieberman is a Repug in Dem’s clothing and he has appeared that way consistently from his absurd stand on Clinton’s impeachment to his obsequiousness in the Cheney debate to his incredible unconscionable take on rape victims and their access to abortion in Conn. It’s time for Dems to act like Dems and Lieberman is not a Dem worthy of the title. Lamont is the person for the job. This Orwellian world we’ve been living in has got to stop. Furthermore, impeach Bush; he’s a dangerous and destructive influence on the world. Enough is enough.

]]> By: Miro http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255799 Miro Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:29:39 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255799 <p><i>At least there’s still The Muck, which now has up this clip of the Chimpy presser rant this morning <b>in which he nearly wept</b>, “[N]obody’s ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attacks!”</i></p> <p>Aaaah Darn! I missed the, “And we’re not going to give checkers back no matter what anyone says!”</p> At least there’s still The Muck, which now has up this clip of the Chimpy presser rant this morning in which he nearly wept, “[N]obody’s ever suggested in this administration that Saddam Hussein ordered the attacks!”

Aaaah Darn! I missed the, “And we’re not going to give checkers back no matter what anyone says!”

]]> By: Bruce/Crablaw http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255723 Bruce/Crablaw Tue, 22 Aug 2006 02:00:57 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255723 <p>I knew Josh Marshall and his wife as acquaintances in college, and considered them both fine people.</p> <p>Marshall’s point seems to be aimed at a peculiar form of “tertiary boycott” of those who haven’t gone hard-core anti-Lieberman, a boycott that has not occurred. That’s why Marshall did not engage in examples, there were not to engage. So it’s not really a capitulation as a semi-red-herring, semi-ad infinitum “fanciful speculation.” </p> <p>My own view - Marshall is working like a fiend and had an off night. I think he’s worried about something that’s not actually happening, but is responding to a certain harshness in tone that he gets hit with. Marshall is fine in my book, Jane and Christy have said things I disagree with and I still love FDL. Maybe people built him up too high so that if he said something that missed the bulls-eye once, it’s cataclysmic.</p> <p>Marshall is a person. So is his wife. So is their dog. His site says they are expecting a kid sometime. Everybody, give the fellow some air.</p> I knew Josh Marshall and his wife as acquaintances in college, and considered them both fine people.

Marshall’s point seems to be aimed at a peculiar form of “tertiary boycott” of those who haven’t gone hard-core anti-Lieberman, a boycott that has not occurred. That’s why Marshall did not engage in examples, there were not to engage. So it’s not really a capitulation as a semi-red-herring, semi-ad infinitum “fanciful speculation.”

My own view – Marshall is working like a fiend and had an off night. I think he’s worried about something that’s not actually happening, but is responding to a certain harshness in tone that he gets hit with. Marshall is fine in my book, Jane and Christy have said things I disagree with and I still love FDL. Maybe people built him up too high so that if he said something that missed the bulls-eye once, it’s cataclysmic.

Marshall is a person. So is his wife. So is their dog. His site says they are expecting a kid sometime. Everybody, give the fellow some air.

]]> By: Henk http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255627 Henk Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:23:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255627 <p>Josh is a DLC Democrat, always has been. He’s walking a fine line, knowing that his views are far more conservative than those of his readers, he tries to focus our common goals for the sake of his blog/income, but lately he’s been forced to show his true self. To remain relevant he has to comment on Leiberman. He made a few strong comments and is now slipping back into his comfort zone. Its all about the blog and his income. He’s done some great work, but I have no respect for him anymore.</p> Josh is a DLC Democrat, always has been. He’s walking a fine line, knowing that his views are far more conservative than those of his readers, he tries to focus our common goals for the sake of his blog/income, but lately he’s been forced to show his true self. To remain relevant he has to comment on Leiberman. He made a few strong comments and is now slipping back into his comfort zone. Its all about the blog and his income. He’s done some great work, but I have no respect for him anymore.

]]> By: renska http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255584 renska Tue, 22 Aug 2006 01:00:23 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/21/those-crazy-lamont-supporters/#comment-255584 <p>Lotus and Scarecrow –</p> <p>Thanks for the props but Lamont really wasn’t a hard sell in that neck of the woods. The phone banking was intermittently valuable, and visibility was fun (got to meet Annie Lamont and 2 of the kids, and also to shake Danny Glover’s hand) but primary day the pro-Malloy contingent in Salisbury initially gave me the hairy eyeball. They were so convinced that Lamont was going to get such a huge victory they really felt my presence there was pointless.</p> <p>Lotus — I don’t know your friend, but maybe I’ll run into her. I’m heading back up to CT for the remainder of August and September to do more Lamont work. (Would really love to meet other Lamonters in the area as we’re summer folk and don’t have deep roots in the community. Also, as you probably know, it’s very rural up there. I was very jealous of all the tales of meeting up at bars for celebratory drinks after long days of phone banking and canvassing. Basically I was mixing my own margaritas.)</p> Lotus and Scarecrow –

Thanks for the props but Lamont really wasn’t a hard sell in that neck of the woods. The phone banking was intermittently valuable, and visibility was fun (got to meet Annie Lamont and 2 of the kids, and also to shake Danny Glover’s hand) but primary day the pro-Malloy contingent in Salisbury initially gave me the hairy eyeball. They were so convinced that Lamont was going to get such a huge victory they really felt my presence there was pointless.

Lotus — I don’t know your friend, but maybe I’ll run into her. I’m heading back up to CT for the remainder of August and September to do more Lamont work. (Would really love to meet other Lamonters in the area as we’re summer folk and don’t have deep roots in the community. Also, as you probably know, it’s very rural up there. I was very jealous of all the tales of meeting up at bars for celebratory drinks after long days of phone banking and canvassing. Basically I was mixing my own margaritas.)

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