When we last left the adventures of John "Little Jimmy" Olsen, Cub Labor Leader (head of CT-AFL/CIO), he was trying to convince his membership that Lieberman had a great record on health care and was, you know, a labor-oriented kind of guy and not an enabler of the most hostile President in modern history to workers’ rights. Fortunately Bush’s destruction of all occupational safety standards has not yet led to the kind of brain damage that would render this absurd assertion reasonable, and the rank-and-file strongly resisted Olsen’s attempts to endorse Lieberman past August 8.
Since the primary Lamont has picked up the UAW endorsement and it looks like many other labor endorsements are on the way, but Olsen has steadfastly resisted committing himself on the matter. Now that Joe has decided he needs to shed any vestige of the liberal skin he claimed to have worn during the primary, isn’t it time for Olsen to just admit he was wrong, his members were right, and do the right thing?
This weekend there is a DNC meeting in Chicago and Olsen will be in attendance. Says CJ in the comments:
[A]ll of the state representatives (to the DNC) are meeting in Chicago … and they are taking a Lieberman vote. If it’s either overwhelming or unanimous that could be pretty hard hitting. I’m embarrassed to say that I know of this because our state committeeman spoke of it at a county Dem meeting last evening and was wondering if we (other states) should get involved – he was brought to his knees fairly rapidly and will now be voting against Lieberman at the meeting. We convinced him that it was a party issue not merely a state election issue.
You know, that’s a great idea. DNC head Howard Dean has already distinguished himself by saying enough with Holy Joe’s party bashing, and hopefully others will back him up. If you’d like to contact your local DNC representative and let them know your feelings on the subject, you might also mention that if they run into Jimmy Olsen they should nudge him into doing the right thing, eh?
Related posts:
- Q-Poll: Lieberman’s Opposition to Public Option Not Popular in Connecticut
- Klein on How Lieberman Went Bad: It’s All Jane’s Fault
- Lieberman’s Filibuster Threats Run Counter to 2006 Campaign Rhetoric
- Early Morning Swim: Jane and Rachel Discuss What to Do about Joe Lieberman
- Lieberman on Point for Senate DADT Repeal
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Jane! Ned!
Ned!
Sidney Hillman! (who was the CIO labor leader advising Franklin Roosevelt on domestic policy)
Every Dem with half a testicle (or ovary, as the case may be) should be repeating that Joe is the republican candidate for CT-Sen, endorsing Ned, and reminding voters just who has been coming out in favor of and funding Joe lately (read: Deadeye Dick and pals).
I’d contact my DNC delegate, but I can’t figure out who from the California party is a delegate – their site is useless for that. (They don’t seem to know about the DNC, or at least don’t mention it.)
I have not seen anyone bring this up regarding this aspect of the CT-Sen race, but didnt the AFL-CIO split up? Where are the Change To Win coalition endorsements? The AFL-CIO is not nearly as powerful these days, why are we concerned about Little Jimmy Olsen anyway, isn’t his time in power up?
Fitz…please, hurry. We need you.
‘unjsutly’?
;>)
If anyone knows the best way to sort out your DNC rep, please leave it in the comments.
Question- and I had same when I read the original comment- what does “taking a Lieberman vote” mean?
WaPo
This shouldn’t even be a debatable point. The moment Lieberman is certified to be on the ballot as a CFL candidate he is no longer part of the Democratic Party. Since the DNC gathering is for the party, I fail to see how they’d do anything other than back Lamont.
DEPU’d
Sonoma @ 169
I imagine that’s what they thought in Germany and the Soviet Union too. Things did indeed work out, unless you were one of the 30,000,000 people killed, or the unknown number of people who lived in prison or abject poverty because of government actions.
It CAN happen here.
P J Evans @ 5
I couldn’t figure CA out either. Help!
DNC Delegates are selected by the State Party so call up the State Democratic Party Headquarters. Your local Democratic Party could help too…
Obviously, our work here is not done.
Pundidiots called Lamont’s challenge a “purge,” it wasn’t. It was a primary. Now that Ned has won the primary and is the Dem candidate, and joe refuses to respect the will of the voters and insists on running as a Republican supported independent, perhaps a real purge is now in order.
Shoulders back to the wheel, Firedoggies. Call, write and pester every elected Dem you know and the DSCC and its leaders (Mark Pryor are you listening?) to support Democratic candidates. I know I have.
Hey Joe,
Kim Jong Il doesn’t like being overshadowed by Iraq, Iran or Hezbollah.
Joe. Why is Kim Jong Il preparing to test a nuclear weapon? I thought that the mighty Bush Doctrine was going to scare all of the worlds tyrants into submission? The Bush/Lieberman Doctrine is ruining America and our standing in the world is in a shambles because of loud mouthed, arrogant war mongering rhetoric.
Joe, you are an egostistical fraud and the voters of Connecticut decided to “throw the bum out”. Suck it up Emporer Palpatine.
http://abcnews.go.com/Internat…..amp;page=1
-GSD
EPU’d:
G.Gordon Liddy endorses RGJoe on Hardball!
Know them by the company they keep.
An Anne report on the last thread and Grodd’s on the next-to-last (oh, okay, G.Gordon Liddy too) just provoked this EPU’d question. I’m especially interested in any Nutmeggers’ views here.
Isn’t the plan for Lieberman to go on the ballot as a ‘petitioning Democrat’, i.e. still a ‘Democrat’, just not the Democrat?
…The ultimate aim being as Pierre Trudeau once said regarding the desires of French-Canadian separatists elected to provincial government…‘Divorce, with bed privileges’, and thus once again having it both ways?
OT: did anyone else see JACK MURTHA and his cute lil oponent interviewed by tweety ????
pretty funny stuff . . . anyway diana irey, the gop bukake (sp) queen being propped up against the PATRIOT MURTHA really reeeked it up — every ‘answer’ she gave was rancid but refusing to answer questions about when we should drawdown the occupation in IRAQ was just plain painful.
anyway: it occurs to me that she is young and healthy and would make a great recruit for the army . . . after all she certainly has no future in politics. i just shot her an email with a link to the ARMY site — maybe you want to do the same??
remember you should be polite, but nice. not so much.
http://www.Irey.com
Diana@Irey.com
Listen up residents of Delaware, Colorado, Nebraska, Arkansas, and Hawaii. Your senators need to wake up real quick to the fact that Lieberman is no longer a Democrat, and that Lamont should receive their support. Who constitutes Lieberman’s margin of victory in CT? REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!! That should tell us all that this man cannot be trusted.
If elected Lieberman could assume leadership of a committee that would have responsibility for investigating mishandling of the Iraq war. How does that sound? I’m sure he will be total impartial. Yeah, right!
Contact these Senators today and tell them they must support the Democratic candidate in CT:
Sen. Ken Salazar (Colo.)
Mark Pryor (Ark.)
Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
So…L-Man obviously is not supporting the
DEMOCRAT CANDIDATE in the CT senatorial race
is he? And getting calls from K.ROVE,support
from DARTH CHENEY and even worse THE DECIDER
HISSELF what is the hangup about letting JOE
know he is not showing much loyalty or team
play these post-primary days in CT? If the
DEMS let this festering sore grow and worse
condone it because “that Joe…what a nice
guy” horseshit then they deserve to go down
in flames come this November. Maybe the DEMS
leadership needs to join the “FIND YOUR SPINE”
club and see how it feels. EITHER LEAD OR GET
OUT OF THE WAY. Dean is right on this. Surely
those buzzards in the Senate who are having a
problem figuring out this simple political
puzzel are smart enough to know you SUPPORT
your party in these deals. GET IN LINE AND
GRAB YOUR BIGGEST CLUB!SHEESH!
Listen up residents of Delaware, Colorado, Nebraska, Arkansas, and Hawaii. Your senators need to wake up real quick to the fact that Lieberman is no longer a Democrat, and that Lamont should NOT receive their support. Who constitutes Lieberman’s margin of victory in CT? REPUBLICANS!!!!!!!!! That should tell us all that this man cannot be trusted.
If elected Lieberman could assume leadership of a committee that would have responsibility for investigating mishandling of the Iraq war. How does that sound? I’m sure he will be total impartial. Yeah, right!
Contact these Senators today and tell them they must support the Democratic candidate in CT:
Sen. Ken Salazar (Colo.)
Mark Pryor (Ark.)
Ben Nelson (Neb.)
Daniel Inouye (D-Hawaii)
Early this morning, on the BBC World News, they did a piece on the Vt woman on the plane, etc. Their POV was the media feeding frenzy during the event when there was essentially no information released, and how the talking heads were perseverating about the possibilities and fomenting public anxiety and fear by imagining the worst. They played various quotes from said talking heads and one of them was,”It could be a Ned Lamont supporter trying to make a point.” My jaw dropped and I was lying down at the time! I think Ned, in addition to becoming a wonderful senator from CT, is going to become a code word for the Faux News set for the great unwashed liberal loonies who dare to think of a world where the military is not the only answer to international unrest.
DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE ROSTER
http://pdamerica.org/tools/iss…..democratic national committee members”
P J Evans @
5
second that. Can’t find my DNC members on the DNC site and can’t find them on the California party site. Does anybody know how best to find out who our California DNC members are?
Well my sense on the CT ground is that lots of Lieberman voters are ripe for being flipped. And the biggest reason I’m hearing isn’t the war (though that’s big too); the biggest gripe is that the locals haven’t seen Joe Lieberman around these parts in more than a decade. People feel abandoned. I’ve talked to many community activists, nice people serving on town councils and old money types in Greenwich, who have invited Lieberman to make a local appearance, year after year, without getting a response. People round here compare Lieberman’s aloofness to previous senators who would personally get involved in helping out the locals using the power of their office. Even Joe’s loyal supporters are rubbed the wrong way by his disinterest.
Nevertheless, lots of “land of steady habits” types remain a tad bit nervous about putting their faith in this new kid, Lamont. So they need to get to know and like Ned over the next few weeks. Then they’ll be ready to make the switch. And when that avalanche gets going, Joe will get buried. That’s when he’ll drop out.
Well, it’s a theory anyway…
Peace.
If you go to the link above and click on your state, you should have a state party website link. Here in CA, that goes to cadem.org, and chairman Art Torres, who can be reached here: chairman@cadem.org
Zennnurse,
I think that quote was from one of the limp-dicked race-haters who work for the unfunny and cadaverous Dawn of the Dead Imus.
-GSD
You FireDoggies are doing your work–you’ve got me slightly off my ass, making calls at my local Democratic headquarters, emailing state committee members (fortunately everyone’s been my student), and sending back a response today to Anne Lewis’s fine email, letting her know I don’t want to hear from DSCC until it shows leadership regarding Ned Lamont. Okay, Doggies. You are getting us slowly moving toward democracy. thanks.
TeddySanFran @ 18
Exactly. You would think that should be easy.
O/T Maybe others saw this already, but I just ran across it:
Clinton to headline Webb fundraiser.
If a politician, and I am speaking of Joe Lieberman, has close ties to the DLC, as does Lieberman, then he is almost by definition not a friend of the unions. What’s the matter with union leaders who support Senator Lieberman? They are undermining their membership. And they are being quite remiss in their “leadership”. The only conclusion I can come to concerning union leaders supporting Lieberman is it must have something to do with payoffs and promises of future favors.
Proper Superman sentence contruction would actually be: “When last we left…”
Gives it that poetic consonance.
Joe Lieberman, do you support G. Gordon Liddy when he advocates to his radio listeners that if raided by Federal Agents they should “aim for their heads” with “Headshots” in order to take out those Federal Agents?
Non-fascist minds want to know.
Also, Dildo Joe, why is Kim Jong Il preparing to test a nuclear weapon? Is it because George W. Bush told him not to fire missiles a few weeks ago and he fired off 7 missiles on the 4th of July and Bush never came through with his threats?
The Bush Doctrine was supposed to cow and intimidate tyrants worldwide, but they seem to be on the march as of late. Why are you supporting the failed Bush Doctrine?
http://abcnews.go.com/Internat…..amp;page=1
-GSD
kai- I’ve told this story before, but this is for you- when I was talking to people at polling places (after they voted) I got the same responses- not the war, but the fact that Lieberman hadn’t been locally engaged. One woman said that she contacted reps for help in sorting out medical bills for a son in hospice care. DiLauro sent back a concerned letter; Dodd’s office contacted her by phone and got the whole mess sorted out; Lieberman sent a letter with a list of lawyers she might contact!!!
Looks like Torres in CA is already onboard:
New York readers, These are the DNC reps for us. Some of these are home numbers! Wheeeeee!! Let’s send Hillary a message too.
Hon. Herman Farrell Jr. 212-725-8825
Denise W. King 518-392-1560
Hon. Dominic Baranello 631-567-2090
Hon. Vivian E. Cook 718-322-3975
Emily Giske 212-431-4748
Hon. Judith H. Hope 212-725-8825
Maria Luna 212-923-8818
Hon. Thomas J. Manton 718-459-9000
Dennis Mehiel 212-779-7448
Hon. Clarence Norman 718-756-1776
Hon. Roberto Ramirez 212-505-6633
Irene Stein 607-266-7579
Sylvia Tokasz 716-887-8709
Robert Zimmerman 516-829-8374
Ran around the CA Dem website for several minutes. They’ll tell me who their officers are, and how/who to contact for a ‘local’ club, but not much else. (That may explain the candidates on the ballots too.)
Much thanks to brainfaht at # 25:
I plagiarized his info to construct the following linky so it works by clicking on it:
DNC Members
It goes to an online Acrobat PDF document that you can scroll down and find your state’s DNC members.
Valley Girl @ 35
That is cold. My god, can you imagine what thick-skinned indifference it takes for a senator to tell a constituent family dealing with a hospice situation, “Go do your own damn legwork”?! Wow. The guy’s an embarrassment.
Thanks for the anecdote.
Could the ModGoddess please sort out what’s kept my 19 in moderation for the last 23 minutes? Not that my contribution is so all-fired important, but that the first 2 of the 3 links are. Thanks.
My love note to the DNC — though I write nothing against Joe — it is everything against Joe — but I did not want to appear to partisan, like Joe.
Listen — if you are going to lend your support to Joe Lieberman after he lost the primary, then I will not be supporting your efforts as a group anymore. Nothing against Joe — but the Connecticut voters made the decision. If we allow this to happen in the Democratic Party, then we are just reliving the 2000 election by discounting the voters true intentions — but this time it is not the US Supreme Court sticking it to the voters by deciding the outcome, but an enemy within. This is not the way to get out the vote to unseat the Republican Party, but this is one sure way to create more apathy among the very voters that you may need to count on come November. It is disgusting to me that you even have to have a “Lieberman” vote.
OT – via ThinkProgress
http://www.redstate.com/storie…..ys_himself
It’s a madhouse!
At least they aren’t self-immolating.
Violence breaks out among monks at peace rally.
Apocalypse index moves ahead by ten points.
http://english.aljazeera.net/N…..E42F4B.htm
DEPU’s said: “It CAN happen here”.
First of all, you twisted my quote out the context in which it was written. Which is OK, I guess, but hardly sporting.
Secondly, I believe the subversion of much of our Republic’s workhorse ideals have already been gutted, i.e., it already HAS happened here. The American people, so to speak, are staring into an abyss that has yet begun to stare back intensely enough to shock them into that realization.
In the larger context of my original post (on another thread), I’d add only that while the GOP is primarily responsible for that happening, their worthless democratic allies have aided and abetted their corruption every step of the way. Progressives able and willing to fight that subversion can no longer afford an alliance with those who reflexively veer rightwards, while at the same time calling themselves democrats.
I realize 3 months before a midterm election is not the most auspicious time to argue that out. Still, by my lights, it’s evident the democratic party is in need of a profound realignment in order to fight the good fight.
Jonathan Tasini. Candidate for Senator from New York. A real progressive and a genuine ally of working women, men and the unions.
http://www.workinglife.org/Bio.html
I apologize if this has been stated ad nauseum (haven’t been around much) – but here’s my observation:
Have you guys noticed how many of Holy Joe’s 2004 opponents have come out and made public statements against Joe and/or FOR Ned Lamont? John Kerry, Howard Dean, John Edwards, Al Sharpton, Wes Clark – who else?
My theory is that these are the guys who know, firsthand, what a miserable, smarmy SOB Lieberman really is. They’ve all been on the receiving end of his dirty campaigning – smiling and acting like the “nice guy” while he lies and smears.
I think these guys DON’T LIKE HOLY JOE ONE BIT!
And, I think payback is being a b*tch.
test
sprung!
There is only one group John Olsen is responsible to in his capacity as Connecticut AFL-CIO President, and that is the organized workers of Connecticut and their unions, and believe me, they have the means to bring him to heal, including throwing his ass out of office.
I believe they’re going to as well. Even before the primary, Ned had the AFT, IAM, and SEIU (including 1199) — all prominent, vocal unions in the state. And now the UAW? Forget about it.
A primary function of someone like Olsen at state HQ is to run the political operation. Let him obstruct, see what happens. Unionists for Lamont will build a parallel structure to do what the state-wide AFL-CIO usually does, run the coordinated state-wide political effort. That will build a battle-tested network of pro-Lamont and anti-Olsen labor activists throughout the state, something no figurehead bureaucrat like him would welcome.
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Anyone here live near Newport, OR? (hint…)
FISHSTOCK!
Saturday, August 26, 5 to 9 p.m.
Rogue Ales Brewery
This event is open to all ages!
The incredible FishStock music lineup includes RICK BARTOW, The JUNE RUSHING BAND, PIECES OF EIGHT, JOE DOBRO, JAMES & JULZ KASNER, JOE JORDAN, TEX BROOKLYN, RUSSELL THOMAS, and ROBIN REMAILY of the original Holy Modal Rounders.
All the musicians and entertainers at FishStock are donating their time to encourage involvement in grassroots politics. The money raised at FishStock will help fund the campaigns of progressive individuals running for the open, nonpartisan positions of Newport mayor and three city council seats.
With the City of Newport listening to the economic and environmental benefits of moving in a more sustainable direction, now is an especially good time for progressive candidates to run for local public office.
Emcee: Performance poet and environmental activist ANDREW RODMAN.
Lincoln City mayor, LORI HOLLINGSWORTH introduces the progressive candidates, and they will each take a few minutes to expound on their motives and intent.
ALAN SIPORIN, KLCCs infamous host of Critical Mass listener call-in program, will be the FishStock keynote speaker.
Between bands and speakers, entertainment will include belly-dancing by ANON and her students, and firedancing by WILLOW KASNER. Plus other last minute surprises. Food and beverages will be available for purchase from Rogue Ales.
FishStock is sponsored by the Oregon League of Conservation Voters, Friends of Yaquina Bay, Democracy For America/Newport, Kay Eldon, and numerous other political, social, and environmental organizations and individuals.
Many thanks, *ilson — had me skeered I’d been banned there for a while!
Lotus- I just checked- no comments are in moderation. Sorry, I have no idea what happened to your post.
Welcome back Zennurse.. you were missed. Hope all is well with you.
everhopeful @ 47
Dennis Kucinich. Ralph Nader. I wonder what they’re saying…?
It’s finally free now, VG, so I invite y’all (especially Nutmeggers) to check 19 ^ for some intell you may have missed earlier.
ruprecht,
Been a while since I’ve partied hearty in Newport. Is Rogues on the south end of the bridge?
Btw, when you cross the bridge and look down at the marina, I helped drive the pilings in for that way back in early 80’s.
Lotus oops- I forgot to F5- reload the whole page. Your comment has appeared. Anything with too many links automatically ends up in moderation, btw. And, as I obviously forgot, it’s worth repeating- moderated comments that have been approved only show up if you reload the page. They do not show up by clicking the “refresh comments” button.
Byron Dorgan of ND is so anti-Nafta and anti-Cafta.
It should be a no-brainer for him to enthusiastically support Ned.
Hope he can be persuaded.
Nader is from Connecticut and he totally despises Joe Lieberman as the ultimate “corporate Democrat”.
I havent heard anything about Kucinich yet but does anybody doubt that he’s a strong Lamont backer?
Perhaps this will help to locate your local DNC reps. (click on the state, then follow the link of your choice)
http://www.democrats.org/local.html
Sirota busts Flip-floppin’ Joe on his dismissal of Al Sharpton as a ‘…divisive and problematic…political albatross‘ after he begged him for his endorsement over two weeks ago.
… That’s a bit of a black mark on the face of it
;>)
Be careful with the 2004-2008 DNC list at #39. Some of the names are out of date. Depending on the rules of your state party, elections to the DNC frequently are held in off years, such as this year. Some members get re-elected, others retire or are not re-elected. In the case of Minnesota, the party chair and co-chair listed have been out of office for over a year. Someone at DNC needs the assignment to regularly update that list.
… That’s a bit of a black mark on the face of it
;>)
heh heh HEHHHHHHHHHH, darkblack, you bad boy.
http://nedlamont.com/blog/1135/224
224
That’s how many people have signed up for tonight’s event in New Haven with Senator John Edwards.
Two. Hundred. And. Twenty-Four.
That’s a lot of enthusiasm.
Can you make it?
http://www.nedlamont.com/page/…..allies/w5x
Now that the RNC has de facto endorsed Joementum, and Cheney did so last week, Lamont needs to (i) always refer to Joementum as `my republican opponent’ and (ii) run adds where Cheney and Joe kiss in some Terry Gilliamesque fashion.
Smelly Joe asked for Al Sharptons’ help and then helped to use race-hating tactics against him.
What a weasel.
Also, according to the Air Force Times, 40,000 US troops have deserted since 2000.
Way to hollow out the military.
http://www.airforcetimes.com/s…..930387.php
-GSD
Did I read that Abu has declared there are 5-6,000 U.S. blogs working with the terrorists, and that they could be anywhere? Do they want people to turn in suspicious neighbors, like in the Soviet Union? I figured we were already in the gun sights of NSA [monitoring] and DoD [analysis of our ‘threat’ to the military. AS IF.–THEY are the ones who are destroying our military by wasting them on foolish non-Al Q adventures].
egregious @ 210
Let’s try in KO style to match up progressive advances with administration propaganda:
Lamont thrashes Lieberman: new scary threat by brown people who don’t have passports, don’t have tickets, don’t have expl. materials, but do have a member
torturedinterrogated in Pakistan?Court spanks DoJ abominations against the Constitution: oh look another missing/murdered white girl.
Be aware, they have a lot of stuff stored up to shout over any news that helps progressives. Let’s make a collection!
Just slightly O/T:
Now here’s a fantastic example of using a catch phrase to call the Smugpublicans on their dribble:
via thinkprogress.com
“Sen. Orrin Hatch, who continuously decries the bitter partisanship in Washington, implied this week that Democratic success in November’s election could result in terrorist attacks on America.
Hatch was quoted in Tuesday’s Tooele Transcript Bulletin as saying Middle East terrorists are “waiting for the Democrats here to take control, let things cool off and then strike again.”
Democrats are criticizing Hatch for what they see as “ridiculous” partisan hyperbole.
”There they go again trying to use smear and fear to win in November,” said Stacie Paxton, spokeswoman for the Democratic National Committee.”
http://www.sltrib.com/utah/ci_4194186
Smear and fear. Gotta love it…
OK – here is my letter to my DNC rep – (hope it really is Mr. Torres!)
Dear Mr. Torres,
I have read that the DNC will be meeting in Chicago this weekend to vote on the Lieberman issue. I am writing as a California voter and registered Democrat to urge you to (1) vote against any Democratic support of Senator Joseph Lieberman and (2) to support any motion that will eliminate Senator Lieberman’s future seniority or involvement in any Democratic Party agendas. Senator Lieberman lost the democratic primary in Connecticut. He has formed his own party, earned the fervent support of the Bush administration and many right-wing pundits, and is continuing to endanger the congressional races of three strong Democratic candidates.
In the absence of a strong, endorsed Republican candidate, Senator Lieberman is running as the de facto Republican candidate for Senator of Connecticut. However, many Democrats in leadership roles have continued to support Sen. Lieberman or have failed to make a strong show of support for the true Democratic Senatorial candidate, Ned Lamont. Members of the DSCC, in particular, appear to be putting either their incumbancy or their personal feelings ahead what is best for the Democratic Party. Incumbency and seniority are of no use to the people they “represent” if the incumbent will not truly serve the people – Senator Lieberman’s voting record is quite spotty on issues that matter, despite his vaunted 90%, and he is far too close to this administration for my comfort.
Why put up with Sen. Lieberman’s ego and sabotage, when Ned Lamont is a responsive candidate who has connected with the people, has EARNED broad-based support, and who just gets better the more people know him?
I want to be confident that the Democratic Party Leadership will support great Democratic candidates, and won’t support a mere incumbency racket that does not respond to the will of the voters. Someone has to hold this administration accountable for its actions, and that will not happen if the Democratic Party does not stand up for its voters and its candidates. I have been donating to a number of campaigns this year, but only to individual candidates I know will stand up for me and for our country – the Democratic Party has not, so far, convinced me that my money would be well spent. Please change my mind!
Please, Mr. Torres, do everything you can as the California representative to the Democratic National Committee to show the nation that the Democratic Party is strong in its support of real Democratic candidates across the US.
Thank you,
Snakes on a Mother F**king (Astral) Plame!
[ok, I actually signed it with my real name, but this would have made my letter really stand out]
astralplame says
August 17th, 2006 at 3:58 pm*
I sure hope it’s only those three seats, but I think their ranting and smearing may hurt a lot more than just the three CT R’s. :(
http://www.editorandpublisher……1002986825
A Connecticut Yankee in Joe Stalin’s Court: Painting Ned Lamont ‘Red’
The editorial page of Waterbury’s Republican-American, stuck in a 1950s time warp, suggests that blueblood U.S. Senate candidate Ned Lamont is actually a Marxist whose “true color” is Red.
Well now we know what Shrub was doing on his vacation;
Moonshiner who appeared in ‘Deliverance’ pardoned
http://www.macon.com/mld/macon/15297042.htm
And we also know why Shrub ordered all that sugar and copper pipe for the ‘ranch’.
…aylittledogtoo -
I knew I was missing some things, but had to try to keep the letter pretty focussed.
Is anybody from FDL going to be covering the DNC meeting in Chicago?
From the prior thread. I have read Judge Diggs’ opinion. There are some parts that could have used some work, but it is easy to follow, and very decisive.
First, there is some lovely backhanded snark in the references to Clinton v. Jones. The first one quotes this language: “[w]hen the President takes official action, the Court has the authority to determine whether he has acted within the law.” An odd quote from that decision, which bore no direct relation to official actions, and I’m guessing that the Judge is using it as a weapon for the appeal.
The second one relates to the problem that arises where two branches have overlapping powers. In Clinton v. Jones, the question was whether the President could be sued when in office over matters that arose prior to his election. Clinton argued that it was a distraction from the duties of his office. Justice Rhenquist says that is not a defense. Judge Diggs says: “Mere burdensomeness or inconvenience did not rise to the level of superceding the doctrine of separation of powers.” The clear implication is that compliance with the law is required of everyone, even if it is hard on their little baby selves.
Second, Judge Diggs pays careful attention to the issue of what the President and his
cronieslawyers have actually stated about the NSA program. These amount to findings of fact for purposes of the motion for summary judgment, and the government attorneys did not attempt to refute them. On a motion for summary judgment, the responding party cannot rely on pleadings, but is required to put forward contrary facts. For this reason, the Sixth Circuit will have trouble rejecting the facts on appeal.Valley Girl @ 73
Is this rag taken seriously? Judging from this, they make the Manchester Union Leader look like the pre-Donnie Graham Washington Post.
John Kerry has a kos diary up — going all out for Lamont and Webb both.
Kerry Diary
astralplame @ 74
And I sounded rude not to say that it’s a great letter!
Very busy and preoccupied, here, so all my comments are on the clipped side. :(
OT, but redstate (yes, redstate) has exposed another racist republican candidate – with video. Headline: “Tramm Hudson Destroys Himself”
Watch and listen to this guy say that “blacks aren’t the greatest swimmers and many of them can’t swim…”
I’m shocked – shocked!
http://www.redstate.com/storie…..ys_himself
Valley Girl @ 72
Going by the reverse-engineered Rove playbook, does that mean they MOST FEAR Mr. Lamont’s credibility as a sensible businessman and fiscal conservative? If so, there’s a nail to hammer right down.
FirePups — Sara’s right on at 64 above. Safest best is to call your State Party office first thing in the morning and find out who the delegates are and how to contact them.
You might also ask if they can share where the delegates are meeting tomorrow.
Anybody got info in ChiTown about likely convention locations?
Hi guys!
Just want to thank Redd and all the great commenters in the thread below (don’t have a chance to read all the comments in THIS thread yet).
I had a really lousy night, sick to my stomach and couldn’t sleep until well after dawn.
When I awoke, I came here first (natch!) and read the news about that wonderful patriot, Anna Diggs Taylor.
I wept tears of joy.
And then thought how remarkable it is that we’re in a situation where a judge standing up for the Constitution in such a fundamental way could generate tears. How low we have fallen!
Still, hope is alive.
Blessings on all Firepups and all other lovers of our Constitution and the Bill of Rights!
If you were a high-ranking political official whose family included war profiteers in the past, you might consider looking for or even creating war profit opportunities for the future.
Desperate nations at war with each other don’t stop to check the price tags on things they critically need.
Who made money off of the Germans in WWII? Extrapolate. Discuss. And you know what? It includes people in both parties. This is a very dark discussion indeed.
some cheese-eating philosophe snarkily quipped: “Behind every great fortune lies a great crime!”
President Bush Prepares to Jump The Shark:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/…..-hog-wild/
-GSD
darkblack @ 19
SHEEEIT That says it good! Mwahahahaha
Great, as always, to hear from you Mrs. K8.
“blacks aren’t the greatest swimmers and many of them can’t swim…”
The above statement is nonsense, of course.
But it WOULD be accurate to say:
“Republican candidates aren’t the greatest swimmers and many of them can’t swim…”
And watching Republicans sink makes for real entertainment.
*ilson46201 @ 86
Balzac! not technically a phliosophe, but a great writer
Hey, John Casper! Hope all is well with you. I always enjoy reading your comments.
John Casper @ 88
Isn’t that the truth! Mrs. K8 always brings sunshine into the joint when she visits… :)
Bustednuckles @
74
This is what they call securing your base.
-GSD
Hi Mrs. K8, great to hear from you. We are on the march, but there is a division of Vichy’s that are still stuck behind the Maginot Line and are firing back at us.
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/…..-uspo.html
Politicos beware: You live in YouTube’s world.
~~Sen. George Allen (R) of Virginia also surely never imagined that the young man assigned to track his campaign appearances would cause him days of grief, simply by recording a comment that critics have called “racist” or, at best, “insensitive.”~~
~~George Allen isn’t even the only senator caught on video making an odd comment to an Indian American. Sen. Joe Biden (D) of Delaware appears on YouTube chatting with a young Indian American man about the explosive growth of the Indian population in his state, and elaborates with this: “You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin’ Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent…. I’m not joking.”~~
Jim @
91
Hey, no need for the potty mouth, Mister! :)
Benedict Arnold is the bravest, gentlest, warmest, most wonderful person I ever heard about in my life!
Jenny –
*blush*
Speaking of sun, I gotta get out to the pool now whilst the sun’s still shining to work out. And then it’s off to (where else?) physical therapy.
Sigh. These are the parameters of my world right now — Oh, and doing research into local dog rescue groups! Mr. K8 and I are going to be adopting a little sister for Tandy, and we want good research to go into picking the best doggie for our situation. We finally decided NOT to go with a very young puppy, because of my physical limitations and Mr. K8’s demanding job. Much as we love puppies, we would want/need to give a puppy the kind of attention and training necessary for it to be a well-adjusted and happy member of the pack — and to do that responsibly is a lot of work. So we’ll be looking into maybe a two- or three-year old to adopt from a foster home. So as frustrating as my own slow progress is, there are still joys to come!
I miss you and all Firepups fiercely. Will be back again a.s.a.p.
hit F5 to reload your page and you’ll notice the troll has changed his tune…
and please, dont feed the trollcacas…
We are on the march, but there is a division of Vichy’s that are still stuck behind the Maginot Line and are firing back at us.
You describe it well, GSD!
Though I don’t speak French, I think the relevant part of the anthem goes:
Aux armes, citoyens! Formez vos bataillons!
[If I just slaughtered it, apologies — and please provide correction!]
I could use some Benedictine right about now.
*ilson, you scamp!
Thanks *ilson at 97
Sonoma at 46!!!!!!!
Your daily gas and oil prices
Average price for regular gasoline 8/17/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 24 states
$2.90 plus 15 states
$2.80 plus 12 state
Average national price: $2.977, down $.008
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.367
Lowest average price: South Carolina $2.804
Nymex Crude Future $70.61, down $1.03
Dated Brent Spot $71.49, down $1.02
WTI Cushing Spot $70.06, down $1.83
Speculative fever seems to be cooling along with the economy. Not even Ahmadinejad’s recent bloviating nor Bush’s saber rattling stirred much interest. The market may hesitate at $70 but a more reasonable stabilization level would be around $65. Also there has been some talk of an attack on Iran. One aspect of this that doesn’t get much discussion is that oil would spike so high as to throw not just our economy but the world economy into recession, just saying.
Aux armes, citoyens,
Formez vos bataillons,
Marchons, marchons !
al-Scooter @ 101
There’s a whole bunch of Benedictines in Beech Grove, IN down the road from where I live.
Sonoma @ 46
Sonoma, I apologize if you think I have taken your words out of context. I was agreeing with what you wrote, and trying to amplify a key section. Forgive me if I somehow thwarted the meaning of what you were writing about. I was trying to say, yes I agree AND….
Totally agree that we need to fight the current administration/soft coup and also regenerate the Democratic Party into something that can actually represent people and win. Tough balancing act.
In any case I was not trying to discount what you wrote. Sorry for any literary clumsiness on my part. DEPU’d = double EPU’d, in other words bumping up a comment that was two threads back.
—————egregious
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 106
Those are not the Benedictine I’m looking for.
Sent a sharply worded email to my quasi-democratic senator, Bill Nelson-FL suggesting that he assert himself as a Democrat and get behind the choice of the Democratic voters of Connecticut and repudiate one who would destroy the party. Of course, I did it at work and like a ninny, forgot to control A, Control C what I said. Anyway, I’ll get a letter by and by mealy-mouthing some non-position. Wasn’t rude, but the bottled anger was palpable. Tomorrow the phone. Martinez is hopeless, a neocon tool.
Boy, Feingold and Lamont certainly calibrate the bullshit meter for ya, don’t they? That’s what authenticity looks/sounds like. Makes the political cant look and smell like a weeks-dead whale.
[Speaking of whales and O/T: new method of aging whales may remove Japan’s main justification for “research” whale killing (in protected areas too, the bastards).]
al-Scooter @ 108
I realize that, I was doing a counterpoint/humorous being phunny thing. Sarcastic tone doesnt carry well in text environs.
Walcott.
Mmmmm. Doodylicious.
http://jameswolcott.com/archiv…..he_run.php
-GSD
Hey, Jane! You made today’s Kansas City Star opinion page:
http://www.seditious.org/starjane.jpg
Drop me a line with your PO Box and I’ll mail you the page.
John Edwards stumps for NED… and interviews the sunflower with the CT bloggers!
http://www.newhavenindependent…..ight_s.php
Thanks, DefJef and a warm hug and hello to Mrs K8! So nice to see your byline again.
It really does seem that the rethugs are hitting the wall, doesn’t it. I forget who it was yesterday who pointed it out, but I agree with the assessment that they have nothing left but to appeal to thier ugliest base by bringing out and commenting on the most racist, limited, anti-immigration, anti-poor, anti-woman and hyper-militaristic aspects of their agenda. I’m a little surprised that the media is covering some of it to the extent it is, really.
Also heard on the radio earlier that France is now offering up only 400 troops for the Lebanon effort. As pro-Lebanon as they are, is this not a bit of a slap to those who developed the “cease fire plan” [Condi and John], increasing the chance that it will fail? The words “trigger happy” were used today to describe the forces currently sitting in S Lebanon and although there are expectations for many Arab nations to offer thier troops, France has certainly made only the most tentative step toward encouraging that, imo. Feels like the Powell statement again,”You break it, you own it.”
*ilson- it looks like everyone was well-behaved, unless I missed something. Thanks all. And, thanks *ilson for being so quick. I was thinking that I might have to post a warning, with a recap about your “bloody scattered mouse parts” tale. That REALLY was a classic, m’dear.
Valley Girl — your tomatoes are ripe!
I realize that, I was doing a counterpoint/humorous being phunny thing. Sarcastic tone doesnt carry well in text environs.
Me, too. I was trying to do a Star Wars riff:
Those are not the droids you’re looking for.
Sorry that it fell so flat. I need to work on my commenting.
BBC
BREAKING: Wolf Blitzer supports Lieberman.
BREAKING: Hadassah supports Joey.
zen- thanks for that. Once when I was talking to TRex on the phone about the ME he said something typically astute- TRex said (~) “you break it, you own it?” No- “you break it, it owns you.”
Everythingseemssoneat @ 119
BREAKING ! ! ! DOG BITES MAN ! ! !
imm- oh- the VG tomatoes! Thanks for the update. Send me a good recipe, preferably also using basil. xxoo
zennurse #114, from Pat Lang:
http://turcopolier.typepad.com…..e_sol.html
This line is well down in the comments. Like the front-pagers here, he often gets involved in the byplay of the comments and so enriches the dialog.
Dump Condi’s LUDs – another Coalition of the bribed!
And, imm, may I say attaboy!
*ilson46201 @ 122
JUST IN: BUSH IS AN IDIOT
VG, I will send photographic tomato-ey evidence and excellent recipes this weekend.
xxox
al-Scooter @ 117
Damn that whole thing didnt work at all did it? For either one of us. I’m gonna read up on How To Be Snarky 101 this evening and try again later.
imm- thanks. And BTW, I am email avoidant right now, but will be read in the fullness of time. So, don’t get the idea that I am ignoring you. Your recipes are always so wonderful!
Avoid away, mon cher. Later!!
Q.U. Hamden, CT
Hello fuegos del canines.
God this Lieberman shit just fucking rots my socks. And shows how thoroughgoing is our corrupted political process, and that includes way too many so-called Dems. How DARE ANY of these people side with freakin Karl Rove and Dick Cheney.
This situation also shows how pervasive has become the Cheney junta’s mindset that elections. don’t. matter. If the result doesn’t favor you, you cheat and lie and do whatever bullshit you must to ensure that it does in the end.
And frankly I was disappointed by Russ F prefacing his criticism of Shortride with “I like Joe, but…” I know it’s all that bullshit Senate collegiality, but it pissed me off. Liebushman is now all but fellating this junta and throwing chaos everywhere. I have ZERO PATIENCE OR TOLERANCE for ANY DEM of conscience supporting him or saying a single goddamned nice thing about him.
I am with sharkbabe entirely!
My socks are compost.
Me too.
I have toxic sock syndrome.
hey! it sounds great in German! Feuerhundesee
Bustednuckles @ 134
*!!!laughing!!!*
I’m going sockless and fancy free for the next 100 years!
Sharkbabe — the successful fascist is always welcome as a leader by most of the people. Bush and Cheney are unsuccessful fascists (not that they can’t mess up a lot of lives in the next two and a half years). But I cling to the fact that they are simply bad fascists.
why an’t Joe dancin’ with the ones who brung him to DC…the people of CT????????????????///
it; their state…
PPPPP UUUUU
Sharkbabe — I feel your pain!
But I disagree a little bit about the “I like Joe but . . .” phrasing. I think it resonates better with people who actually do like Joe, but . . . And those are the people whose minds need to be changed.
People like me — who don’t like Joe Lieberman at all — already are for Ned.
sandlin, is that a comment on our feet and socks?
Dutch — toxic sock syndrome :: giftig soksyndroom
An FDL classic!!!!
Bustednuckles @ 135
Toxic Socks It.
immanentize @ 143
No, it’s a comment on Joe and all the others that cause “imman” to have toxic shock.
new thread. :)
*that’s a first for me!
A socker is born every minute around here.
Speaking of bad stuff on feet – I got this great pair of Clarks sandals that are very simple and sexy and comfortable – but whatever the sole is made of, you wear the things for a few days and they stink worse than the worst gym sneaker. What the heck’s up with a sandal being able to smell? Anyway they’re drying in my sink after their latest regular wash. [/OT]
Hmm… where’s Siun? I got the drift from her media training/ training the media at Lamont HQ that a good technique was “one positive, one negative (the one that hits home), one positive”. So, I’ve been reading comments by pols in that light.
neues Gewinde ! (new thread)
Hey, y’all maybe we should send Holey Joe all our smelly ol’ delapidated socks — a sorta Objective Correlative of how he’s steenkin’ up the jernt on his way out of town?
The unilateral action of disengagement in the the Gaza was a ruse. As Dov Weisglass, adviser to PM Ariel Sharon said in 1994: “The disengagement is actually formaldehyde. It supplies the amount of formaldehyde that’s necessary so that there will not be a political process with the Palestinians”. Recent history is bearing that out. It would seem.
The inimitable Wolcott has asked the right question, and it’s directly relevant to the DNC meeting:
Perhaps that is the cental point to be made to the pro-Lieberman forces in DNC. Bush is going down, and he and everyone who’s been close to him are going to be completely discredited. This is the time for smart Dems to put as much distance between themselves and Bush/Bush supporters as they possibly can — and ride that distance in November.
http://jameswolcott.com/
Hey VG!
I’m here – just catching up after long day saving the corporate soul or something.
Details from Sun Times on DNC meeting:
What: Democratic National Committee Summer Meeting
When: Thursday, August 17, 2006 – August 19, 2006
Where: Hilton Chicago Hotel, 720 South Michigan Ave, Chicago
Thursday, August 17, 2006
What: DNC Summer Meeting Participant Registration
When: 12:00 pm – 6:00 pm
Friday, August 18, 2006
What: DNC Summer Meeting Committee and Caucus Meetings
When: 8:00 am – 7:30 pm
Saturday, August 19, 2006
What: DNC Summer Meeting Regional Caucus Meetings and General Session
When: 8:30 am – Approximately 12:30 pm
Mrs. K8,
I hear you about not sleeping. None of my household could sleep last night, and a woman I talked to today said several people in her office complained of a sleepless night too.
I looked up the moon phase…not full.
Barometric pressure, heck if I know what 30 means, but that’s what it is locally.
Would love to know what’s going on!
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 148
oh oh oh . . .
Hola Sharkbabe.
Seems to me that if you find out your DNC delegate’s name, you could call the Hilton and ask for their room, leave them a voicemail and all?
I’d wonder downtown myself and see what I can find out but I actually have work stuff to do tomorrow … payback for Lamont vacation time.
Thanks Siun- great to hear from you. There’s a new thread, so this is deep into EPU territory, but did I get the gist of your media training advice? As I said, I am now viewing pols comments in this light. Might help me in faculty meetings too!!! xxxoo
Hmmmm, corrected all sorts of things, but managed to get the Judge’s name wrong. Sorry, Judge Taylor.
re: who’s on the dnc? maybe this will help (maybe not):
dkosopedia: dnc
Lol…
You should try doing that with the Lamont polling data.
You could be ahead and not even know it!
Rofl…
Egregious: No need to apologize, as it appears I misconstrued what you said. And it sure will be a tough balancing act. Still, that nettle will have to grasped. A Big Tent is one thing, but when select democrats brazenly embrace the GOP by turning their backs on a nominated party member, something has got to give. The tails of those greasy rats should no longer wag what would otherwise be a formidable attack dog.
Todd at 43
Great idea for a note to them.
Valley Girl @ 95
That’s good, Joey, ’cause you ain’t funny. Thanks for showing your colors, though.
I just registered & sent a lil note to DNC blog.
Also signed up to get e-newsletters.
Will be keeping closer track of them in the future.
What’s WRONG with those people that they would even CONSIDER a “Lieberman vote”?!
Just can’t leave these people alone for a minute.
Good Golly Molly!
*sets broom aside, but within easy reach*