
The news is craptastic for the Bush Administration lately, isn’t it?
– What does Tony Blair’s #2, the British Deputy Prime Minister, think of George Bush? "Crap."
– Speaking of crap, Tony Snowjob is full of it. Apparently, according to the current WH press secretary, one hundred dead people a day in Iraq is simply an ordinary day that no one should find notable whatsoever:
…there has been some improvement at least in the situation on the ground, slightly. Yes, you have a number of sectarian violence operations going on, but you’ve also seen now in targeted neighborhoods in Baghdad, there has been a notable decrease in violence in three of the neighborhoods that have been targeted in the last week, and that’s obviously a promising sign; that’s not a victory lap.
Not a victory lap?!? Well, that may be the understatement of the century. Wanker.
– And what does it mean when Republican pundits start using words like idiot, unrealism and delusional to describe President Bush? It means his horrid job is trickling down on everyone else in the party, and they aren’t happy having to clean up after Bush’s messes. (Taylor had much more on this yesterday in a fabulous post.)
– Swopa points out that we’ve lost a war that wasn’t even declared and that most of us never even knew we were fighting. Well, heckuva job, Bushie…moving up to more efficient and swift failures. (Oh…merde. Speaking of which, Swopa also has an update on the mess that is Anbar province. And you thought Baghdad was having problems…)
– Laura Rozen pulls a great quote from the NYTimes that shows Bush’s frustration that the Iraqis aren’t more grateful toward us. You know, because their lives are all candy and roses…well, not so much. But hey, let’s blame the Iraqis because…well, they ought to be grateful that their whole country could explode into even more violent war any minute and that the Bush Administration refuses to own up to its mistakes and help make the mess we started better. Logic truly is a lost concept in DC, isn’t it? Just keep repeating "adapt to win" and click your heels together three times and wish for world peace. (And look out Dick Cheney…you’ve pissed off Tom Friedman…maybe he’ll cool off in 6 months or so.)
– Ian Welsh has some comparisons between the rebuilding efforts in Lebanon over the last week and what the Bush Administration hasn’t managed to do in nearly a year since Katrina and Rita hit the Gulf Coast, NOLA, and Texas. (To be fair, the state and local governments also have responsibilities, as do the individual citizens and their insurance companies on all of this. But the Federal government has made loads of promises that are just sitting out there…not being properly followed through, and it’s about damn time someone started asking why it is that a half-functioning government in Lebanon and an Islamic militant group is more capable at helping to rebuild a battered area of the country than the Bush Administration, when we have all these resources at our disposal in the US of A, and they have bombed out cars and not a hell of a lot else. Yes, accountability is a bitch.)
– Bush poll numbers? In the crapper.
– Howie has a great new Neil Young video that calls out the Bush Administration’s "environmental" policies. (And I don’t mean the use of composted manure on the shrubs at the WH either.)
I could keep going. Really. The news is that bad at the moment. (Glenn has a whole post documenting how even the right-wing blogs have been bitching about George Bush and his failed and misguided policies lately, so don’t think it is just us.)
But I think Froomkin said it best yesterday:
When it comes to Iraq in particular, Bush has no interest in engaging in genuine dialogue with people who disagree with him — even though polls suggest those people now represent a large majority of the American public.
He has no interest in actually arguing the merits of his approach, or substantively defending against the increasingly focused critique by congressional Democrats.
Rather, he describes his approach in platitudes, and uses inflated rhetoric to mock the made-up arguments of imaginary opponents. He counts on the skillful use of imagery and human backdrops to deliver his very simple core message — "I am protecting you" — without actually making his case.
He hides behind the presidency.
Just sums up the whole Bush Administration in a nutshell right there, doesn’t he? Where does that leave us for the next two plus years with Bush at the nation’s helm? Up shit creek without a paddle.
…but at least we still have Wolcott.
(H/T to reader Scarecrow for the first two links of the day.)
UPDATE: Found this via Atrios, and it’s a doozy:
“The insurgency has gotten worse by almost all measures, with insurgent attacks at historically high levels,” said a senior Defense Department official who agreed to discuss the issue only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak for attribution. “The insurgency has more public support and is demonstrably more capable in numbers of people active and in its ability to direct violence than at any point in time.”…
Yet some outside experts who have recently visited the White House said Bush administration officials were beginning to plan for the possibility that Iraq’s democratically elected government might not survive.
“Senior administration officials have acknowledged to me that they are considering alternatives other than democracy,” said one military affairs expert who received an Iraq briefing at the White House last month and agreed to speak only on condition of anonymity.
“Everybody in the administration is being quite circumspect,” the expert said, “but you can sense their own concern that this is drifting away from democracy.”
Oh, really? And I thought that Tony Snow said that there was an improvement of things on the ground. Snowjob, indeed.
The American public deserves the whole truth — especially the portion of the public that has family and friends who are actually risking their lives for this Administration’s continued failures. If the Bush Administration’s goals have shifted away from democracy in Iraq, then what exactly are we fighting for now? Let’s see, WMDs? Nope. Democracy? Apparently off the table. So what now? Are they risking their lives to provide CYA for George Bush? Because that’s not good enough. How about some truth for a change…



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NED!
New Q poll is out for the CT race, shows Lieberman ahead but the margin dwindling since the last poll.
My question:
Does anyone else think that Lieberman’s numbers may be inflated by the fact that Republicans being polled are saying they will vote for Lieberman simply to keep his poll numbers up and keep him in the race – even though they may actually intend to vote for a Republican on election day?
I would suspect this is the case for at least some percentage of the Republicans claiming that they will vote for Lieberman.
Link to Q Poll:
http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x11362.xml?ReleaseID=948
Yes, you have a number of sectarian violence operations going on
Inny cute.
*xyz — am looking at the Q-poll numbers right now. I think you are right — the trend has been for Ned to close the gap in each successive poll.
Q-poll:
Likely voters: Lieberman 53%, Lamont 41%
Registered voters: Lieberman 49%, Lamont 38%
Margin dwindling? Don’t see that at all. See a gloating Joe Lieberman, which is not the mental picture I want – or need – in my head this morning – or ever.
Political Wire
lotus, your snip of David Broder in the previous thread. Is that anything like the fat lady singing?
Just realized you all were talking about the last Q-poll from July. I was thinking the 46-41 Rasmussen poll from last week.
Anne @ 6
Same here — not a good poling start, but it is way early. Hopefully Lieberman will repreat his hubris and denial routine and those nuimbers will drop in Septyember when everyone is back from vacation.
Anne @ 6
Anne, the margin is diminishing compared to the previous Q-Poll.
But I share your fear that this will give Joe’s ego a boost. Really, though, it seems like Joe’s ego doesn’t actually depend on real-world input anyway. It is not a reality-based ego.
The good news about the Q-Poll is that Joe’s support among Democrats has fallen significantly, a trend which I hope continues.
Also, I did not intend for my remarks about the Q-Poll to signal optimism – I was only noting the trend compared to the previous Q-poll.
I, too, believe that Lamont is in for a real battle. And I am putting my money and my efforts into the Lamont campaign accordingly.
Bush’s disappointment in those ungrateful Iraqis brings a terrible sting to our sensibilities as human beings. He thinks he’s protecting us while hiding. He’s flopped.
Ned is in the fight of his life. And so are we.
Honestly, I can’t imagine what it’s like to live in CT, vote for Ned, and then have your own party crap all over you.
*xyz @
12
Indeed, it’s hard to see a diminishing trend when you only consider one data point.
“Lamont gets a negative 25 – 30 percent favorability rating among likely voters, with 19 percent mixed and 26 percent who haven’t heard enough to form an opinion.”
That one, I just don’t understand. How can it be?
meta @ 8
Mought be . . .
Gotta go catch my train — BUT FIRST,
Someone mentioned that Ned needs to increase his staff so as to be able to get out the oppo research on Lieberman to depress his favorables. Tom Swan, I believe said take a hike with the outside consultant idea.
I agree Lieberman’s negatives need to go up —
Ed*ard Teller had a great insight near the end of the last thread about how we have not yet come to undertsand the multi-pronged way our new medium (th eblogosphere) can work — virally or pointedly. Anyway, putting these together, I think it is obvious that oppo research is our responsibility and that by handling it outside of the campaign, we will be free to draw obvious conclusions more succinctly. This brings with it a responsibility we have not been burdened with before (Think the Blackface experience).
Tradeoffs everywhere, but beating Joe is sufficient reward for a little restraint AFAIC.
TRAIN!!!!
Imm
IRAQ’S CIVIL DISCOURSE !
RickD – Thanks for the tip; I suppose that there is no signficance to the changes that have occurred in the Q-Poll numbers since the last poll taken. I will cease all attempts at analysis and leave the critical thinking to you.
OT, and not nearly as funny as it first appears:
65 pregnant teens = one canceled abstinence-only program
Some good news… maybe? Depending if anything is actually done.
FCC probes ‘fake news’ at U.S. TV stations
“The U.S. Federal Communications Commission has begun an investigation of the use of video news releases, sometimes called “fake news,” at U.S. television stations.“
Snip
“The action follows an April report on fake TV news by two media watchdog groups, the Center for Media Democracy in Wisconsin and Free Press in Northampton, Maryland. They recorded incidents where video news releases had been used at 77 stations in a study titled Fake TV News: Widespread and Undisclosed.“
(emphasis added)
For the law dogs out there: Is that time span normal for an investigation? Reported by a group in April and starts to be formally investigated in August?
Good morning sweeties!
Won’t be able to hang around–big day–but wanted to pop in and say x and o.
Another OT
Times of London:
Rosemary Bennett, Times Political Correspondent, says that John Prescott’s latest alleged slip — calling George Bush’s Middle East policy “crap” at a private meeting with MPs — shows the Labour divide over Britain’s foreign policy
“I haven’t had a chance to speak to all the MPs at the meeting, but I think it’s fair to say that Mr Prescott’s statement today is careful rather than an outright denial that he ever uttered those words.
“Most of Mr Prescott’s gaffes — failing to pronounce words properly, for instance — have a tendency to make him a figure of fun. But for the first time, it looks like he has made a slip that has much of the Labour Party and the country saying ‘Good on you’. So it’s ironic that he’s now claiming that he never made it.
[more]
x and o backatcha, tommy!
Just heard Ned on BBC World Service – he was great as usual – very clear, sane and positive even as the BBC anchor asked tough questions as they always do.
Weirder – they then had tape of a very senior Chinese official who is mighty pissed at the US and said “America should shut up” – quite the rant.
World Service if available at http://www.bbc.co.uk and worth streaming live for closer to real news than anything available from NPR, etc.
siun, thanks for the heads-up. How long does it usually take Auntie to get a replay up online, do you know?
Hello tommy!
Bush’s refusal to talk to the leaders of any nation that do not agree with his illegitimate cowboy policies guarantees that we always begin from a position of failure. Resorting to war is always an admission of failure. And Bush basks in his assignation as the war president.
lotus – I’m not sure since I listen live … they do replay stories throughout the day and also post a lot of what they broadcast – click the “radio” tab and try the “Listen to World Service bulletin”
Interesting double-chain of buck-passing in the links there. Wingers try to blame Iraq on Bush, Bush tries to blame it on those darned Iraqis.
We need to remember that the “Bush is an idiot” meme is an attempt by the right wing to declare that the problem is him, not the movement as a whole or their insane policies. It’s up to us to stop them from getting away with it, and hang their failures around all of their necks forever.
*xyz @
2
No. I suspect they do see him as essentially a “moderate” and much more viable than Gamble-boy. I do wonder, however, if there aren’t some Republicans who are planning to vote for Joe simply because they wish to “stick it” to progressives.
There has to be a way to turn the tables.
tommy yum, you are in the regular play list at KUNM now. woo hoo!!
Now, we go to work on Heather!!
Besos from NM.
The Q polls mystify me, as if that wasn’t hard!
It’s time to lower the boom on Joe. If the goal is to nationalize this years races by making Bush the albatross, then let’s hang him around Joe’s neck too. Along with the Cheney boat anchor.
Right on, bg! I think the single went out to radio this week. I haven’t felt that peculiar kind of giddy nausea for quite a while…
Unfortunately, I think that the Wills, the Friedmans, and the rest are slowly backing away from the current Administration not only because the WH policy is no longer reality-based, but also because they’re smart enough to know what’s coming from the electorate and don’t want to get sucked down by the sinking ship. (Might be this fall, might not, but I’m hopeful.) The Congresscritters are on that same ship, but are also backing away from the Shrub because they know that his association with them will become their own personal “kiss” this election.
My suggestion — which I’ll use this fall in Clay Shaw’s south Florida race — is to search for photos of your local opponent and Bush together, then use those in rallies, etc. Make the connection, and at least some people will remember when it’s time to vote.
Okay, back to Christy’s topic…and apologies for straying off…
So, there is a groundswell of recognition that our president is in over his head, not particularly adept at the whole leading the nation thing, ham-handed at world diplomacy and out of touch with the will of the people.
Okay…now what? We spend the next two years clucking our tongues and shaking our heads at what an incompetent Bush is, as the state of the nation and the world descend even further into chaos?
I mean, let’s face it – if Bush and Cheney and the gang were the management team of a major corporation, the board of directors (assuming they were not in cahoots with management – which in this case they were, and are) would have fired their sorry butts a LONG time ago.
People are working their butts off trying to elect Democrats and change the composition of the Congress, in the hope of gaining some measure of control, but we are still several months out from knowing whether we will be successful in that endeavor, and another 5 months before those changes – if achieved – will start to be felt.
But what can we do? Or are we simply to be spectators at a show we wouldn’t pay money to see it’s so bad?
I’m really at a loss for answers. If we took to the streets, you can be sure Tony Snow would call that a few crowds – and direct everyone to look at an empty field in Iowa to prove that the absence of crowds there means all this talk about unhappy people is just wrong.
I’ve clearly HAD enough, and would say that I’ve actually had MORE than enough. But the phrase that keeps running through my head is, “So what?” And that makes me sad and angry and even more frustrated, that I have reached the point where I am beginning to see the depth of our powerlessness.
Sorry for the achingly depressing comment – it’s just hard to find much to be optimistic about in the state of things.
FishGuyDave @ 37
That’s a good point, and if you want to get them from high-quality photo archives, do it now, before GOP money makes them disappear like they did with the Bush-Abramoff photos.
Good idea, FishGuyDave.
The FDLers of FLA want to get together and party — prolly in October, when the weather’s a little friendlier. If you want in, email me at lotuslander AT cfl DOT rr DOT com.
Anne — one thing we can do is use the GOP’s sense of impending doom against them. Write frequently to your reps about abhorrent Bush actions, and let them know you’ll remember in November if they don’t oppose them. With the current state of things, this should now have some effect even if they’re Republicans.
Congress can’t put the brakes on everything the administration does, but they can have some positive effect, if they actually do their jobs.
email me at lotuslander AT cfl DOT rr DOT com
lotus – not afraid of a little spam, are ya?
:-)
……Informer, ya know me daddy me Snow me I’m to blame. A licky boom boom yeah!
When is America gonna get tired of having the shit stuffed back up their ass.
Have you had enough yet?
Then there’s this omen of things to come. From page one of the WaPo:
If K-Street is looking to hire Dems, their polling – official and statistical or unofficial gut checks – says that it looks like we may put a stake in the republican K Street Project yet.
Anne, there is always that sense of hopelessness that creeps up each day when we see what’s going on. I share your distress, believe me. But FDL has created that “Citizen action” link in the right column, and I know you were there for the Ten Things discussion. I just encourage you to do something each and every day, however small, to find the hope that you need. Some days it’s just wearing a button that says Worst President Ever and having a lot of people nod their head and come up and talk about it. Other days it’s volunteering to GOTV on the other side of the country. Some days, if possible, it’s giving money. Or joining a local grassroots org. There are many campaigns that need us. Just please, don’t give up.
The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse ride among us, and they are Bush, Cheney, Rove and Lieberman. The are in a war on democracy itself. BCR have been since 2000/Florida. And Bush clearly stated in the spring of 2001 that he didn’t have a problem with dictatorships as long as he got to be dictator. Same smart-aleck tone that even today resonates in the race-baiting campaigning of George Felix Allen and Joe Lieberman.
If they can weaken our resolve, make us believe that voting does not count, that elections do not matter, then they win.
But I’m sick of seeing them win. I’m sick of weaselly DINOs being WATBs about their good buddy Joe. To borrow his own words, this is not about party or just the state of Connecticut, this is about the foundation of democracy itself.
Ned won fair and square in Connecticut with a high voter turnout. The kind of turnout the Bush Republican Guard cynically touts in their Middle East misadventures.
The time is now to harden our resolve, to work our butts off, to take immanetize’s words on the challenges we can accomplish to heart.
For my grandparents, who lost their farm in the dustbowl/depression ’30s.
For the folks in Ohio who stood ten hours in the rain to vote in the last election.
For my children whose opportunities to flourish in the middle class have been bankrupted by BushCo policies.
For my grandson who deserves a better world, a healthier world, a safer world than he was born into three years ago.
For my dear husband, who suffers from the rigors of diseases that could be eased with stem cell and other biomedical research.
For the nameless people displaced or still moldering in the attics of New Orleans.
For my dad, who risked his life on the front lines of Pacific islands as a young, scared Marine in World War II…
I will not waver, I will not be broken, I will not lose heart. I will advocate in whatever way I can to rally the vote in November. And I will vote.
This November, vote as if your democracy depends on it…because it does. It’s just that simple.
Here’s another crack in the mighty wurlitzer…and way past time, I’d say.
Redshift @ 32
Amen, Redshift. Again and again and again………
http://www.mydd.com/
This looks much more hopeful.
Bong 42, I didn’t useta be, but boyhowdy am I learning my lesson by the hour now!
Okay, you lucky stiffs with HBO, look what you’ve got coming Monday:
Spike Lee Delivers Katrina Documentary
Hmmm… But the myDD link speaks of “trend lines”. This cannot be. RickD, please head over there and inform them that they cannot extrapolate trends from two data points.
americans overwhelmingly supported bush when he sent other folks’ kids into iraq — ned’s having trouble rising above a mid-level threshold of support because many connecticut democrats thought joe was wonderful, dashing, masterful for backing bush’s war — some of these democrats are sticking with joe: they’d rather follow tom friedman in blaming bush for poor execution than blame themselves for being so dumb as to think iraq would be easy pickings — if they voted for ned, they’d be admitting they were partly to blame, so they’ll vote for joe & enable him to keep telling them they were right to want war
it’s not republicans who’ll help joe beat ned, it’s stubborn numbers of democrats who aren’t rallying behind ned
Redshift @
39
Hmm… nothing’s apparently left on the web — I might be too late!
it’s not republicans who’ll help joe beat ned, it’s stubborn numbers of democrats who aren’t rallying behind ned
Screw that!
Joe is NOT going to beat Ned, no matter who’s helping him try, because (as somebody said the other day) they’ve only got a campaign, but Ned and we have a cause.
“Joe beat Ned.” As IF, mofo!
It is time for Democratic Senators to stop telling everyone how nice
a guy they think Joe Lieberman is – he’s not a nice guy, he’s a
craven, selfish, anti-democratic opportunist, and is as mortal a
threat to the Democratic Party’s ability to take back Congress as
George W. Bush is. It is time for Democratic Senators to stop
listening to an Enron lobbyist who is demanding they ignore the will
of voters. It is time, in short, for our own leaders to stop worrying
about country club sensibilities, stop being so comfortable in the
minority, and start getting serious about taking back political
power.
Enron Lobbyist Corralling Senate Dem Support for Lieberman
By David Sirota
tommy yum @
35
this poll is IMHO being manipulated to help lil holy joe . . . DUH i know . . .
remember the Q poll a week before the ‘primary’ or as lil holy joe called it the ‘first half’… Q poll had NED by 13 —- that was such crap.
the ‘polls’ are just another tool the vapid INcumBENTS to manage perception and manipulate the ‘voters.’
NOSE TO THE GRINDSTONE NED . . .
In my local paper, the Waterbury Republican, they had an article about how liberal Lieberman’s voting record is. I am hoping this will start to discourage the Republican voters from casting their vote to Lieberman.
I am imagining this gets very confusing for the run of the mill voter. I am hoping Ned is working behind the scenes on the unions and local Democratic leaders. That will sway the local voters.
Two things need to be hung around Liebermans neck. His unstinting support for Bush and his liberal voting record.
Both of those issues will chip away at his support from both sides.
It can be truly said that Lieberman is the De-facto nominee for the Bush/Coulter Republican Party.
-GSD
Also.
*The UK is trying to quiet a report that Blairs # 2 called Bush “crap”.
*The Chinese UN ambassador said the US sould “shut-up” about China’s defense spending. He said China is not occupying any nations, has no imperial ambitions and the US spends more than anybody else 10 times over…so “Shut-up!”
What was the Bush Doctrine about anyway?
-GSD
Also, look at how the George Felix Allen Jr.(R-Birth of a Nation) racist attack on 20 year old volunteer is described by the Xinhua News Agency.
http://news.xinhuanet.com/engl…..974309.htm
What I don’t get is how the press is giving Snowjob a pass. This guy openly despises the press and the public. This is the public face of the US Government. The White House is so politicized that a guy can stand up and make trite and offensive comments about people dying and the MSM doesn’t say a word.
siun @ 27
Siun, this is not going to sound ‘murkan. But I was tickled listening to that official. The U.S. has a long history of fiddling armswise in Asia and its disingenuous for BushCo to pretend otherwise. What’s needed is honesty, not this fake sanctimonious from ‘murkan China watchers.
The rhetoric about Taiwan sounds alarming, but it is tired. The Chinese always say that. Right now I get the impression that in spite of the usual inflammatory public rhetoric, there’s actually more negotiation going on behind the scenes.
lotus, enthusiasm like yours has taken ned this far — now ned’s up against tough resistance — i know from having grown up in connecticut that joe’s tapping into ugly roots that will be hard to pull out
FishGuyDave — GREAT idea. I think we’ve got to think more *visual* than *sound-bite*, too. Prairie Sunshine’s Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, Bush, Cheyney, Rove and Lieberman, would be an EXCELLENT example. (Are you listening, DarkBlack?) The Kiss Float accomplished as much as Ned’s clear words — or, at least, it set people up to really hear them. People now don’t read that much, or pay much attention when they’re listening, but visual impacts are strong for all of us.
roger the lodger @ 53
You got this right, Roger!
Good Mornin’ Firedogs
This has stuck in my craw since it was first posted -
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..n-nominee/
all you need to know -
(emphasis mine)
Really Chuck ???
Well I’ve had it – I gave 8 days for Egopalooza to strike the sets and fade on in to history –
I place this squarely at Chuck’s feet – You, Senator Schumer friggin’ emboldened this Shithead with all your friggin’ equivocating – now you have this Uncontained Bag of Ego & Entitlement fragging the Party Tent, complete with Senators Gone Wild –
You openly dismissed Chairman Dean’s efforts to build grassroots infrastructure, and it was US, Us you told to STFU and hold our water for the sake of Party unity
This is the same ol tired act you pulled with the Iraq vote – 2700 U. S. dead to answer for clearly wasn’t a big enough whack on the head – you brought that weak ass shit home and now your shiny new Democratic Majority has devolved in to Civil War within your Party
heckuva f’ing job Senator !
/rant
meta – I’m not giving up, by any means; I don’t think it’s in my nature to do that – guess I was just having one of those “moments” when I happened to have a keyboard under my fingers.
I guess, too, that when I see much of the nation and the world coming to agreement that Bush is a crappy president, and when I see what’s on the table that has to be dealt with, I wonder why all these people did not see what so many of us saw in 2000, and why they have needed 6 years of crap before they could finally identify the rank odor in the room. Maybe it’s because a lot of the media spend so much time in crap of their own creation that it’s harder for them to identify it when someone else is producing it, I don’t know.
Rest assured that there’s plenty of fight left in me – the bastards are NOT going to do their work in the silence of hopelessness. If they’re going to keep trying to do it, they will have to put up with my noise, and the collective noise of all of the rest of us who just aren’t going to sit passively by while it happens.
Latest Quinippiac, likely voters:
Lieberman 51%, Lamont 38%
Also, we’d might as well assume Ned will get the same kind of Dem support throughout the campaign as he’s getting now. I.e., lukewarm at best.
So we’ve got spend more time figuring out how to counter that, as opposed to trying to convince them to go against AIPAC and their other big-time donors.
Wacko @ 67
Don’t worry. Lieberliar’s numbers will circle the drain. There’s more work to be done.
Actually the Q poll seemed pretty accurate before the primary. The weekend before 8/8 they had Lamont with a 6 point lead, and he won by 4 points.
I can understand Republicans voting for Joe, but I don’t see how a state that went for John Kerry in ‘04 will return Cheney’s best friend to the Senate in ‘06.
I don’t get it.
off topic
the right wing is going to start promoting the rubbish that was released to the FMSO
http://www.captainsquartersblo…..trackbacks
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http://www.captainsquartersblo…..trackbacks
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03…..nted=print
http://www.captainsquartersblo…..trackbacks
http://www.captainsquartersblo…..trackbacks
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this data is already discredited by the cia themselves
the new york times did a piece
Quote:
… intelligence officials say. ”Our view is there’s nothing in here that changes what we know today,” said a senior intelligence official….. ”There is no smoking gun on W.M.D., Al Qaeda, those kinds of issues.”
Quote:
All the documents, which are available on fmso.leavenworth.army.mil/products-docex.htm, have received at least a quick review by Arabic linguists and do not alter the government’s official stance…
Quote:
Intelligence officials had serious concerns about turning loose an army of amateurs on a warehouse full of raw documents that include hearsay, disinformation and forgery.
Negroponte’s office said it too, and even had to add the disclaimer saying himself the government did not vouch for their authenticity of these papers so he could cover their butt for releasing propaganda
Quote:
Another administration official described the political logic: ”If anyone in the intelligence community thought there was valid information in those documents that supported either of those questions — W.M.D. or Al Qaeda — they would have shouted them from the rooftops.”
just a heads up and a call to be prepared when they start giving us that rubbish
snowbird42 @ 50
Thanks for this – I do feel better seing how much ground Ned has gained since the July poll, and how little movement in Joe’s numbers.
“there has been a notable decrease in violence in three of the neighborhoods…”
first it was the country.
next, broad regions (the kurdish north etc)
then restive towns
now its down to neighborhoods.
joe’s tapping into ugly roots that will be hard to pull out
No doubt, roger. But my money’s on Ned’s and our heavy-duty Bobcats and workgloves!
GSD, I love this Bush/Coulter Republican Party meme. Let’s push it.
For Connecticut Republicans.
The Iraq vote has already been cast. That cannot change now.
But future votes on abortion, stem cell research, tax increases, welfare, affirmative action are all sitting there in the future waiting to be voted on by Joe Lieberman, self-acclaimed “proud liberal” who said he will caucus with the Democrats.
-GSD
Oh, didn’t want you to think I didn’t notice — I’ll e-mail you later off-list. Florida’s a big state, though. North or south Florida for the party? I’m all the way down here in Miami.
lotus @ 72
Yes, this challenge by Ned would have been never mounted if we all sank under the weight of the polls.
Meta, just use it again and again. It is the Bush/Coulter Republican Party. Don’t ignore her. She is the Michael Moore of the Republican Party as far as I am concerned. No disrespect to Michael Moore, but the Democrats feel that using her is legitimizing her.
Damn Right. Legitimize her every last word. Hang her wretched words around ALL Republicans.
Over and over and over.
Rinse, spin, repeat.
-GSD
we’ve lost a war that wasn’t even declared and that most of us never even knew we were fighting.
The U.S. military, with political and popular support, won the Gulf War in 1991.
With “victory” already written into the history books before he took office, George Bush is now the first U.S. President to deliberately un-win a war already fought by the U.S.
sadly
cl
Lamont’s campaign might benefit from some experienced campaigners. Some of his staff is enthusiastic, eager, but inexperienced and not focused. A couple of seasoned expert veterans might be just the thing.
Boy oh boy, those poll numbers showing Joe with a rather large lead are discouraging. Are there that many republicans in CT? I did not think they would be that bad. Don’t see how Lamont is going to close that by being the good guy and playing nice.
Either someone is going to start playing hardball there again or else it is all over and we can listen to the crowing f o r e v e r.
I like to refer to Lieberman as “Old Joe”…”OJ” for short.
Does anyone else out there feel that this shoe fits?
WHAT CBL SAID.
Schumer needs to go.
Yes, Schumer absolutely needs to go!!!!
It would be nice if Reid would issue a statement making it clear that, should Lieberman retain “his” seat as an independent, he will of course lose his Democratic seniority and return to the Senate with all the influence of a freshman, inexperienced Lamont. Then let’s see those poll numbers.
That pic is so wrong.
Lieberman is now officially an Independent, not a Dem any more. He should lose his committee chairmanships right now!
I have a feeling that many who voted for the idiot are secretly looking to the dems to overturn this disatrous adm & congress. Damn, damn, damn obstructionist dem “leaders”. It’s becoming clearer by the minute who will fight for this country & americans and who doesn’t want to change a thing.
We have had 3 republican presidents who were/are mentally impaired: nixon-nuts, reagan-alzheimers, bush-both.
65 pregnant students in Ohio school after abstinence only program. What, just saying no to sex doesn’t work? Who knew? Snort.
The real battle is Washington insiders against the rest of us.
Hello Kai, how’s it going?? What’s your sense of the CT battle on the ground, especially in light of these new polls?
with the Democrats currently being the minority party in the Senate, no Democrats hold any committee chairships whatsoever …
From the NYT courtesy Glenn Greenwald:
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot…..aster.html
“Senior administration officials have acknowledged to me that they are considering alternatives other than democracy,” said one military affairs expert who received an Iraq briefing at the White House last month and agreed to speak only on condition of anonymity.
“Everybody in the administration is being quite circumspect,” the expert said, “but you can sense their own concern that this is drifting away from democracy.”
[snip]
Heckuva job Bushie!
:(
Polls:
Holy Joe is teetering at 50% w/100% name recognition and following a wave of favorable MSM coverage.
Ned Lamont (D-CT), is up to 40% while still gaining name recognition and only beginning to reach out to Independents and Republicans.
Holy Joe has reached “peak oil” at 50% and is carrying high negatives to boot. He cannot climb higher and will likely only offend more people while trying to hold on to those who are not already disaffected by him.
I’ve worked on enough winning and losing campaigns to gladly take the dynamic of Lamont’s position over Lieberman’s any day.
slainte,
cl
with the “El Salvador option” being openly discussed when Negroponte was appointed US Ambassador to Iraq, what makes anybody think that democracy was ever planned for stabilizing Iraq?
Tony Blair is on holiday in the Carribbean via BBC. Perhaps he will be hanging out with some of Jack Abramoff’s friends, while the Deputy insists his “crap” remarks were taken out of context.
That photo above shows a Republican fund-raising event.
cl:
is your name gaelic? what does it mean?
FGDave — looking more nearly south-ish than north-ish at this point, but we just gotta see what the final geo-spread of interested Firelambs is to nail that down . . .
For years I wondered about Tony Blair’s position. I now ponder whether its all about the money.
Hearts and Minds 101.
(Snip)
Hezbollah has told the Lebanese Parliament that Iran will provide an “unlimited budget” for the rebuilding southern Lebanon. Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah has offered a year’s rent to any Lebanese who lost their homes during the war.
George W. Bush better keep Nasrallah away from New Orleans.
-GSD
Re Tony Blair–I just finished reading a book by the former British ambassador to the US, who, btw, is an ardent Bush supporter. He said Blair’s claims to being an intellectual and on top of things was all bullshit.
from a commenter over at Gilliard’s -
“In The March of Folly, Barbara Tuchman quoted the following assessment of Philip II of Spain, whom she called “the surpassing wooden-head of all sovereigns”: “No experience of the failure of his policy could shake his belief in its essential excellence.”
I love the toobz
GSD @ 99
Oh crap. How many Lebanese would want paramilitary duties to go with that “free” housing.
Sorry but I’ve read half the posts so far b/4 going to work and frankly what Lamont needs is big Dems campaigning for him in CT very very publicly. I want to see both Clintons there as well as a bunch of other Ds to show that it is Lamont not Joe who is the standard bearer of the party. That’s no. 1.
Then, I hate to say it but I think the British airport brouhaha has had a far greater effect on the American psyche than we understand. We need to get someone (s) out there who can pound the message through that this was a callous political ploy. We all know it, but there’s a substantial minority who don’t. I can’t figure out a creative new way of doing that, but I know someone on this list is bright enough.
Third. There still is no positive, unified Dem mesaage that I can see driving the bus at this point. “At least we’re not Bush” is not going to cut it for the long term. The Rs had the contract with America back in the early 90s and I can still remember it. We need a similar ‘catchy number’ (props to Firesign Theater–sorry my age is showing) to use until we are so sick of it we can barely stand it. We need it and we need the sclerotic Democratic leadership to adopt it and repeat it ad nauseum.
end of rant.
GSD (100), Republicans’ Hearts and Minds 101: Cold Hearts and Closed Minds.
“Yes, you have a number of sectarian violence operations going on”
…was his response to if a civil war was going on.
So no, no civil war here – only a number of sectarian violence operations. Move along to my other stupid comments. Oh, and did you see Bush in glasses and hear he has read a book and completed a 10th grade book report?
US aid after the Indian Ocean tsunami and aid to Pakistan after major earthquakes helped repair the local public opinion of the USA.
Lebanese know the devasting bombs dropped by the Israelis were US-made and rush-delivered. Still, a billion US dollars (4 days cost of Iraq) would go a long way to erasing ‘ill-will’. Call it ‘blood money’ if you will…
by default, Iran is buying goodwill in Lebanon with massive reconstruction donations.
we’re left dealing with those blocs of voters who don’t even pretend to be rational — all those who like joe, for instance
what will make the difference is the economy — if things keep getting worse, as more & more americans have been using their houses as cash machines, ned will gain, if only because voters turn against incumbents during hard times
Great quote from Tom Friedman. My, it’s all crashing down on the National Idiot and his gang of goon creeps. Couldn’t happen to a worse bunch. Honestly, I can’t stand seeing them or hearing them anymore. They make my skin crawl. Please, won’t they just go away and leave us in peace. For the sake of the republic, they should all quit and let Dennis Hastert take over. That would be a big improvement, hopefully.
Two more years! I hope we make.
I have goosebumps and couldn’t have said it better. Thank you Prairie Sunshine.
I am back in front of a computer and plan on seeing injured troops here in Germany in about 18 hours.I hope to get some footage and ask questions.
Keep the faith in regard to Ned’s campaign; I’m using the shampoo bottle instructions for guidance: Rinse, repeat. Ridding the country of Lierberman is a matter of getting Ned’s message out there, rinsing Lieberman’s lies out, and repeating, repeating, repeating ad nauseaum. Remember,we have the truth on our side.
Gettysburg was just another sectarian violence operation…
Well, now they are announcing that there is that link that the Admin was waiting to announce – al-Qaeda and the “plane plot.”
I hate living with the conclusion that pretty much everyone, everywhere, in our government are liars and you have to filter everything said. Who knows if that link is there or real or not? Obviously, no one in the govt cares about making sure correct or accurate information is used, and when you have people being interrogated in Pakistan (or heck, anywhere the US has people these days too) and the interrogators are told to “find the connection” then you don’t get a real feeling that when the “connection is found” it’s all that reliable, do you?
When US involvement these days PRESUMPTIVELY includes the fact that people are tortured, it’s just about as much as I can handle without going nuts.
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Back to Iraq – I posted this yesterday, but the reports now are that al-Qaeda has decided to legitimize, politically and Iraq looks like a fine place to start the party.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=2320229
OTOH, the Sunnis actually involved in Iraq, politically, aren’t so happy. The Sunni Speaker is thinking he’s going to resign his spot, and the Maj Gen on the ground is making the appropriate “let’s invade Iran” noises by pointing out that Iraqi Shiites are getting ieds and training in Iran.
Meanwhile, back at the pigless ranch, the Kurds still want to be separate (but only as a first step to taking a piece of Turkey with them, and supposedly Hadley had a prior meeting with the Turkish govt giving a big thumbs up of support to them if they need to “handle” the Kurds.
Afghanistan had a bumper opium crop – go guys. WaPo had an Excellent piece (I can’t believe I typed that) up on FBI training and obstacles. Dan Coleman, who it references as a retired FBI agent, is pretty much a treasure trove according to several different sources (as are a couple of other agents who have left the FBI). Hopefully, they can find a way to follow up on his suggestion – which I took to be kind of a continuing education approach, as opposed to relying on a few hours in recruit training as the only training aspect.
There is way too much overlap, IMO, between “real crime” (money laundering, drug trade, etc.) and terrorist networks to try to do the carve out of a separate entity focused solely on terrorism. Here’s hoping that things start to come together before ANOTHER five years of useless idiots in the Executive and corrupt tools in the Congress.
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Froomkin has been a treasure this week. Who else really points out things like this part of the Snowjob.
ital added
Q: Do you like brownies or cookies Mr. Snow?
A: You know, that question seems to imply that it is ok during the war on terror to engage in hedonistic oral pleasure – my God man, what kind of warped soft on terror Democrat are you?
*sigh*
ironranger @ 88
Yes, finally some sanity is entering the political discourse again. However, I’ve been troubled by these blanket statements about, “Now the Democrats will swoop in and save the day! Yippee!”
So now across Blogistan we’re getting excited posts about what John Kerry said about Loserman, or Al Gore’s latest rant. Do not make the same mistakes again, fellow liberals. These people are not the “leaders” to get behind. We’re at a crossroads here, and liberals can actually reclaim the Democratic Party. The Clintons, Kerr(e)ys, Gores, etc. are enablers. They’ve been enabling the thugs for many, MANY years now, all in the name of civil discourse. They need to be put out to pasture. Go get yer cushy corporate jobs and speaking enagements, PLEASE! Your work is done here. enablers. You had your chance. You failed miserably.
We’ve got this movement building here. Let’s not waste it on support for the “Liebermans in sheep’s clothing” again. We have clear alternatives. Findgold, Sanders, Lamont (we think!), etc. offer clear alternatives for us this time. Let’s not blow it again.
moe99 @ 103
Sorry as a person from CT, I don’t want to see either of the Clintons here. They’re poison to progressives and conservatives. What we need is the DLC types to stand out of the way and stop binding Dems while we take the punches.
Close US ally, Pakistani Dictator Pervy Musharraff has realized the limits of the Bush/Coulter Republican “Bomb them into the Stoneage” strategy in dealing with his own insurgency.
Another smashing failure of the Bush/Cheney Foreign Policy Clusterfuckers.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld…..289315.htm
-GSD
Hello Lina,
It’s Irish and relatively simple. Caoimhin is the traditional Irish spelling of the English version/spelling of “Kevin” and is pronounced the same way. Modesty precludes me from telling you what it “means” but any search engine will give you that (actually I didn”t know myself until I got my own internets about 12 years ago).
Laochdha kinda’ sounds like it looks in English if you take out the consonants “c” and “d”.
slainte,
cl
BTW – this “why aren’t the Iraqis grateful” goes hand in hand with Bush’s Pre-Invasion concerns. Assassin’s Gate goes into initial meetings and Bush’s primary concern being to back someone/group who will be very loudly and publically grateful to him.
Foreign policy and wars based on “I da baby, hug me”
This may be why “the Iraqi’s aren’t more grateful to us.”
and,
forgive if it has already been noted—but bears repeating.
mui says
well it’s not like Harry & Chuckie can send Boxer now, can they ???
sorry, still seething, I”ll be over here
OT and OMG–
check this out from the Richmond Times Dispatch:
(emphasis mine)
http://www.timesdispatch.com/s…..9190019425
Eloi/Murlock: What?! What?!! Let Denny Hastert take over? That former wrestling coach Illinois crook?
cbl @ 119
I think we can forget about Chuckie wanting to do anything but protect the incumbent country club, inspite of any public expressions of support for Ned.
In a battle between Dean and Schumer, I wonder who would win the battle.
Did anyone find odd Bush’s declaration yesterday that there is oil in Iraq and the terraists want it? You know, so they could be more in control economically?
We are so in deep shit.
GSD’s article on Pakistan – officials speak only if granted anonymity.
Almost every reference in Froomkin – officials speak only if granted anonymity.
The pieces over the last few days on the out of control drug aspects in Afghanistan – officials speak only if granted anonymity.
HOW THE HELL are we supposed to work on these problems?
Even with his Fox background and training in what constitutes fair and balanced, Snow is a flat out liar to say that all the different points of view and analysis are up for discussion.
mui: It’s not the progressives that need to be convinced. It’s the centrists that need to come around and understand why they should be voting for Lamont. And the only way you’re going to get that is if you bring in some of the respected members of the Democratic party.
I’m not a Clinton supporter–either one actually. I voted against Bill in both primaries. But I am realist enough to use the weapons available. And he is a big draw. It would be good for the electorate to see him on the stump for Lamont asap. Besides Joe broke his promise to Clinton and is running. That needs to be dealt with now.
And then there’s this near the end of a NYT article on the increase in roadside bombs:
Something other than democracy?
Can’t wait to hear how Tony Snow spins this one…and what the reaction will be to the billions of dollars spent, thousands of lives lost and injured, on a known false premise (WMD) and failed premise (bringing democracy to Iraq) and the lie that we had to stay the course lest the lives lost have been in vain.
People should be in the streets over this.
moe99 @ 125
I just don’t think there is anything such as a centrist these days. Voters are all over the board. The repugs will only counter a Clinton visit with more or equal fire. The key here is not centrist but realist. We New Englanders value realism and honesty. Clintons are an albatross.
Working in the primary campaign in CT, I was repeatedly surprised by how many voters contactedor visited were not aware that Lamont was challenging Lieberman. Nationwide, we were so fired up, but so many locals knew nothing about it.
Ned Lamont is a breath of fresh air. He needs to be presented as such, and besides, neither Clinton will do anything to upset Hillary’s donors.
Forget all the triangulators. Ned needs to have all those who openly oppose the war – Murtha, Feingold, etc – join him in a town hall. Intelligent, honest, no holds barred. Shout it from the rooftops.
Homey Abu Gonzales has got to be one of the most dangerous thugs on our payroll. The London scare only lasted a couple of days, so now he’s on the road pushing the Bushworld Scary Neighborhood meme. Call it wishful thinking, but even Joe Sixpack might be rolling his eyes on that one.
meta@130
Murtha, Feingold, Maxine, yes!
Oh, and former Ambassador Murray’s comments on the Great Pakistani/UK/US Terrorist Plot need to be widely disseminated.
weeder – those are very good points and there are so many as well.
Fallujah was a big city in Iraq. It is rubble now. The things we are helping to “rebuild” we were responsible for breaking to start with — shock and awe.
Law and order – the duty of the occupying forces – we did nada.
Civilians mistreated, disrespected, tortured, killed – yeah buddy.
Billions of dollars spent, no real money in unemployed Iraqis pockets? Yep. Permanent occupation bases started immediately upon arrival without consideration of the religious impact of permanent “infidel” presence in the country? Sure. Weary overtaxed troops suffering from heat and long rotations and inability to communicate with locals being asked to perform functions completely foreign to their training and requiring great patience and being quite often doomed from the getgo? Of course, why not?
Refusing to call for a cease fire, as the Iraqis watch rushed US bombs used to destroy Lebanon – similar to the destruction, never repaired, in their own country? Uh huh. Bombing al- Jazeera office, killing journalists, openly discussing instituting a war with Iran on the border, which will inevitably engulf Iraq in more violence? You betcha.
WHat’s not to love?
Bush and his malevolent bunch of mad and murderous fools have trashed every country they have invaded and occupied (including ours to a lesser degree) and left nothing unruined.
We have to take the weapons of mass destruction out of their hands and end their reign of terror.
>>>>>>>>>>
Media Matters does a stunning job on George Allen and the press.
http://mediamatters.org/items/200608170001
The entire article is well worth a read, imho.
Anne,
Well said.
And if you read that block quote too quickly (skimming over “Iraq”) you might momentarily wonder “Are they talking about U.S.??
New thread. Lamont!
Maybe the war never was about WMD or democracy, but just for showing the world we’re No. 1 and then profiteering by the defense and rebuilding industry? By that account, the war would go just peachy – lots of military hardware needed and oodles of mosques to rebuild.
Beating Joe Lieberman is going to take a lot of work from us “bloggers”. We need to decide – do we really care about this that much?
I think I do, and I think I’m ready to do whatever is needed in the fall. It’s going to take everything but the kitchen sink to beat Lieberman, and it may even take that sink too. We’ll all have to rant, rave, scream, canvass, and phone bank with all of our hearts. It will take a much bigger effort than was put forth by the firepups for the primary.
So what do people think – should we go for it or not? Are we up for it?
Ned Lamont thread
I heard Larry O’Donnel (sp?) on Franken saying something on the order that when the dems were routed & repubs took over congress, the polls weren’t reflecting this upset. Not many were talking about this as a serious possiblity according to Larry. He points out to how badly the polls are looking for repubs reelections. That is encouraging to think on. Then I skimmed David Broder’s wapo article listing the pessimistic opinions of repubs on their chances of retaining seats.
Bonkers@113: That being said, what is really going on with these obstructionist dems? Something is really stinking in the Dem party & boy, is it time to clean house. The problem with fumigating a fridge that lost power & has been sitting with rotting food is the length of time that reeking odor has been there. It can take several fumigation cleanups. I had thought that 75% of dems need to go, now I think at least 50% are not only useless, but working against us.
I’ve got the rye to go with this. Check out:
http://www.wingedseed.com/rsti……html#ESOR
thanks Mary,
My 118 was not in response to your 117—it just “landed” there.
Your “Foreign policy and wars based on ‘I da baby, hug me’” LOL
You are the master commenter. While I quote others, you use words & analysis from your very own head.
Here’s a question. How soon before Halliburton and KBR are granted no-bid contracts to rebuild Lebanon? Bush foreign & domestic policy: destroy it so we can rebuild it.
Big money in the destruction and big money in the rebuilding. Just not for the average citizen of any country.
I can understand Republicans voting for Joe, but I don’t see how a state that went for John Kerry in ‘04 will return Cheney’s best friend to the Senate in ‘06.
It’s possible, because Lieberman is still pretending to be a Democrat, and has fooled some of the less informed voters who usually vote Democratic. He’s getting lots of help from the media and a few turncoat Democrats in carrying out the deception.
All of the Republicans, who know exactly what Lieberman is, are willing to at least say they support Joe to a pollster. I don’t think all of them will vote for him in November.
Lamont can win in November, but it’s an uphill struggle. He has to work against the media, the Republican propaganda machine, and a large number of misguided turncoats in his own party. He has to be out there often correcting the misconceptions and lies, chief among is the contention that Joe is a Democrat. Once he decided to face off against the Democratic nominee and actively oppose his election, he left the party. He’s dead to me, and he should be that way to all self-respecting Democrats.
moe99 @ 105
Sam Seder (Have you written to AAR to support him yet? it’s coming down to the wire.) gave a rundown of Andrew Sullivan’s column in Time this week (Time.com?) about the London bombing threat.
It sounded to me like the only “evidence” they have for this being a real terrorist threat is a confession in Pakistan from one of the suspects, who had fled there under suspicion for the murder of an uncle. We can be confident, of course, that Pakistan would not use any coersive interrogation techniques, right?
There are no tickets for a dry run that was supposed to have taken place yesterday, Aug. 16), few passports and no chemicals.
All they have is a guy in Pakistan (!) who confesses to a plot the details of which are right out of the terrorist history book.
I hope for all our sakes that there was no real threat, but I pray to God that if there was no real threat that Bush and his cronies pay and pay and pay for this crap.
To Be fair, I don’t think Bush is frustrated with Iraq.
My guess is he doesn’t pay attention to Iraq long enough to get frustrated.
Although, according to Rep. Peter King, Bush questions his intelligence analysts like a ’street cop.’ And I believe King 100 percent. ‘Cept not.
What we are fighting for is what we were always there for – oil.
mui: You see Clinton as a big sinkhole, but Lieberman’s numbers improved after Bill stumped for him. We can not let our personal feelings blind us to the reality if we want to win. At least too much.
First, Allen is caca; Now, Bush is crap. What a great week for Dems!
First, Allen is caca; Now, Bush is crap. It’s a great week!
Sorry…comment and edited comment both posted! Oh, well. Worth saying several times!
in need of surveillance,
how about judge nixes warrantless surveillance?
Weeder–Yeah, isn’t that great news? I adopted my nym to protest Bushco’s unAmerican activities. Maybe now I ought to change it to “In Need of Surveillance in Buscho’s View or Not, Warrantless Spying on American Citizens is Unconstitutional.” What do you think? Maybe a little wordy? ;))
wordy? no, I love it! ;)
meta @ 90:
Hullo there! Sorry it took so long for me to swing back around to this thread…
Honestly, my sense on the ground in CT is that Lamont can win. We still have a fight in front of us, but from what I’ve seen, lots of Lieberman voters are ripe for being flipped. And the biggest reason I’m hearing isn’t the war (though that’s big too); the biggest gripe is that the locals haven’t seen Joe Lieberman around these parts in more than a decade. People feel abandoned. I’ve talked to many community activists, nice people serving on town councils and old money types in Greenwich, who have invited Lieberman to make a local appearance, year after year, without getting a response. People round here compare Lieberman’s aloofness to previous senators who would personally get involved in helping out the locals using the power of his office. Even his loyal supporters are rubbed the wrong way by that kind of behavior.
Nevertheless, lots of “land of steady habits” types remain a tad bit nervous about putting their faith in this new kid, Lamont. So they need to get to know and like Ned over the next month or so. Then they’ll be ready to make the switch.
Peace.
Up front apologies for this “nasty” humor about your picture (elephant doing ….). The elephant after all stands for GWB and the woman symbolizes the GOP!!