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		<title>By: David Ehrenstein</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247950</link>
		<dc:creator>David Ehrenstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 13:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ned had better slam Lieberman for hiring this creep &lt;b&gt;NOW, HARD and REPEATEDLY!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;“Mr. Lieberman has left the Democrats for the ENRON Party”&lt;/em&gt; makes for a tasty soundbite, don’t you think?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned had better slam Lieberman for hiring this creep <b>NOW, HARD and REPEATEDLY!</b></p>
<p><em>“Mr. Lieberman has left the Democrats for the ENRON Party”</em> makes for a tasty soundbite, don’t you think?</p>
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		<title>By: Ron Russell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247761</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 07:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Ned was fantastic on both Hardball and Kudlow’s program on CNBC.  On Hardball he demonstrated a great sense of humor and Tweety compared Lieberman and Cheney as “2 peas in a pod”.  On Kudlow, Ned was able to hold his own, talked about Business, Tax Cuts and about getting our fiscal house in order.  If you listened to Ned on Kudlow and had read that Waterbury rag, you’d be saying…wtf?  Tweety even shot down Dan Gerstein, on the Iraq Liberation act!  Ned’s getting better by the day, where Joe is getting more and more shrill.  The Big Dog stepped up for Ned, John Edwards is next and all Loserman has to look forward to are lobbyist donations and slime boat vets type of attacks that  we should tie around his neck like a milstone.  Joe’s above the fray can and must be shot down by displaying how and who he is using to play the partisan politics he decries, yet is dependent on.  Yea, Dan Senor of all people is a “non partisan”–more like a political hack.  Perhaps it’s time for Joe to create a new political action committee:  “Hypocrites for Lieberman”.  Speaking of GOP Hypocrites, Buzzflash has named him as  one:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.gophypocrites.com/2006/08/hyp06032.html&quot;&gt;http://www.gophypocrites.com/2006/08/hyp06032.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned was fantastic on both Hardball and Kudlow’s program on CNBC.  On Hardball he demonstrated a great sense of humor and Tweety compared Lieberman and Cheney as “2 peas in a pod”.  On Kudlow, Ned was able to hold his own, talked about Business, Tax Cuts and about getting our fiscal house in order.  If you listened to Ned on Kudlow and had read that Waterbury rag, you’d be saying…wtf?  Tweety even shot down Dan Gerstein, on the Iraq Liberation act!  Ned’s getting better by the day, where Joe is getting more and more shrill.  The Big Dog stepped up for Ned, John Edwards is next and all Loserman has to look forward to are lobbyist donations and slime boat vets type of attacks that  we should tie around his neck like a milstone.  Joe’s above the fray can and must be shot down by displaying how and who he is using to play the partisan politics he decries, yet is dependent on.  Yea, Dan Senor of all people is a “non partisan”–more like a political hack.  Perhaps it’s time for Joe to create a new political action committee:  “Hypocrites for Lieberman”.  Speaking of GOP Hypocrites, Buzzflash has named him as  one:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.gophypocrites.com/2006/08/hyp06032.html">http://www.gophypocrites.com/2006/08/hyp06032.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: James E. Powell</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247742</link>
		<dc:creator>James E. Powell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 06:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This information ought to be put into a 30-second ad and run for a couple of weeks. Right now.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Why not?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This information ought to be put into a 30-second ad and run for a couple of weeks. Right now.</p>
<p>Why not?</p>
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		<title>By: Cujo359</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247675</link>
		<dc:creator>Cujo359</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;A.Citizen @ 8:47 pm (#90) &lt;i&gt;The worms must be munchin’ away on his rotten carcass by now…who sez dere ain’t no justice?&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just about anyone who isn’t cremated gets that much justice. I’d have prefered the kind that comes with orange coveralls.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A.Citizen @ 8:47 pm (#90) <i>The worms must be munchin’ away on his rotten carcass by now…who sez dere ain’t no justice?</i></p>
<p>Just about anyone who isn’t cremated gets that much justice. I’d have prefered the kind that comes with orange coveralls.</p>
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		<title>By: prostratedragon</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247674</link>
		<dc:creator>prostratedragon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247540&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Elliot Ness @&lt;br /&gt;
                8              &lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;For all of the good news about Lamont, there is a bad moon rising in Illinois.  War is about to break out among Dems, mostly over Blago and his inept administration, and downstate Dems who are tired of the shaft, and I don’t mean the coal mine shaft.
&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Any particular news? I’m out of state right now, and the local press do not wish to embarass anyone by putting stories about the campaigns on their websites.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-247540"><em>Elliot Ness @<br />
                8              </em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>For all of the good news about Lamont, there is a bad moon rising in Illinois.  War is about to break out among Dems, mostly over Blago and his inept administration, and downstate Dems who are tired of the shaft, and I don’t mean the coal mine shaft.
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<p>Any particular news? I’m out of state right now, and the local press do not wish to embarass anyone by putting stories about the campaigns on their websites.</p>
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		<title>By: A.Citizen</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247669</link>
		<dc:creator>A.Citizen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I wonder how ‘Kenny Boy’ likes the eternal fires o’ Damnation?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The worms must be munchin’ away on his rotten carcass by now…who sez dere ain’t no justice?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how ‘Kenny Boy’ likes the eternal fires o’ Damnation?</p>
<p>The worms must be munchin’ away on his rotten carcass by now…who sez dere ain’t no justice?</p>
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		<title>By: Titanyum</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247661</link>
		<dc:creator>Titanyum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:40:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Cheney and Lieberman actually don’t have the same objectives in the Iraq war. Cheney simply wanted to profiteer from a war, while Lieberman wanted to hit Iraq hard. To Cheney, the target could have been Finland, for all he cares - just as long as Haliburton gets to rebuild it. To Lieberman, Iraq was/is an evil mideastern power that needs to be eradicated. So there is some daylight between the two positions.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;In the end, both are equally wrong as they squander the good name and the military resources of America.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cheney and Lieberman actually don’t have the same objectives in the Iraq war. Cheney simply wanted to profiteer from a war, while Lieberman wanted to hit Iraq hard. To Cheney, the target could have been Finland, for all he cares &#8211; just as long as Haliburton gets to rebuild it. To Lieberman, Iraq was/is an evil mideastern power that needs to be eradicated. So there is some daylight between the two positions.</p>
<p>In the end, both are equally wrong as they squander the good name and the military resources of America.</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247649</link>
		<dc:creator>BarbaraB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:25:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247615&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;masaccio @ 72&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;It is not just that they are direct cheats.  They have corrupted every organization that stood between us and the powerful.  One example is the group that handles revisions to the Uniform Commercial Code.  In the last set of revisions, the large financial institutions packed the group with their agents, and arranged a group of amendments that was expressly designed to screw unsecured creditors.  In their sessions, they would talk about how they were “screwing the trustee” and laugh and laugh.  The results can be seen in any corporate bankruptcy. Secured  creditors get the money, and unsecured creditors get the shaft.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Secured creditor interests have always been well-represented in anything to do with Article 9.  It is not, after all, about unsecured transactions.  And what made you think NCUSL — whose commissioners are all there because of political connections — has ever stood between “us and the powerful”?  Or that unsecured creditors have ever done well in a bankruptcy proceeding, unless they are cohesive enough, and have enough at stake, to form a creditors’ committee?  Anyway, these days, that bankruptcy proceeding is probably a pre-pack with a hedge fund running the show.  Just sayin’.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-247615"><em>masaccio @ 72</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>It is not just that they are direct cheats.  They have corrupted every organization that stood between us and the powerful.  One example is the group that handles revisions to the Uniform Commercial Code.  In the last set of revisions, the large financial institutions packed the group with their agents, and arranged a group of amendments that was expressly designed to screw unsecured creditors.  In their sessions, they would talk about how they were “screwing the trustee” and laugh and laugh.  The results can be seen in any corporate bankruptcy. Secured  creditors get the money, and unsecured creditors get the shaft.</p>
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<p>Secured creditor interests have always been well-represented in anything to do with Article 9.  It is not, after all, about unsecured transactions.  And what made you think NCUSL — whose commissioners are all there because of political connections — has ever stood between “us and the powerful”?  Or that unsecured creditors have ever done well in a bankruptcy proceeding, unless they are cohesive enough, and have enough at stake, to form a creditors’ committee?  Anyway, these days, that bankruptcy proceeding is probably a pre-pack with a hedge fund running the show.  Just sayin’.</p>
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		<title>By: john in sacramento</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247641</link>
		<dc:creator>john in sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hill and Knowlton link&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hill_&amp;_Knowlton&quot;&gt;http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind.....;_Knowlton&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hill and Knowlton link</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Hill_&amp;_Knowlton">http://www.sourcewatch.org/ind&#8230;..;_Knowlton</a></p>
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		<title>By: Redshift</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/16/crooksrus/#comment-247638</link>
		<dc:creator>Redshift</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Aug 2006 03:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-247613&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;P J Evans @ 70&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;p&gt;Redshift: I have to work next week, but I plan to be there Sunday. Now where’s that propeller beanie…?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Cool.  I’ll leave a message for you at the message board, and hopefully we can get together then.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-247613"><em>P J Evans @ 70</em></a></p>
<blockquote><p>Redshift: I have to work next week, but I plan to be there Sunday. Now where’s that propeller beanie…?</p>
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<p>Cool.  I’ll leave a message for you at the message board, and hopefully we can get together then.</p>
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