Comments on: Not Forgotten… http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 21:29:31 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: dshell99 http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-246716 dshell99 Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:57:16 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-246716 <p>my boyfriend is with the 172nd from alaska. we planned to get married at city hall when he got back. i guess my wedding will be a nice christmas present. i’m not too horribly upset b/c i didn’t think he’d be back home (we’re from missouri) til september after getting all the paperwork to let the army know he had a dependent done. knowing what i know now, through phone calls from him and what i’ve been reading in the news, i’m more upset for those that have families in fairbanks or who told their families to meet them there after they got back. all those plans ruined by a bunch of idiots who don’t have much military experience if they got any at all. we’ve know for THREE YEARS that baghdad was the holdout point and they wait til NOW to take it?! wtf?! you strike at the home front first. that leads to a trickle down effect that would have made it easier in other provinces in iraq, but no, they want to do this the HARD WAY! fine! but i can guarentee you that the first person in november that says, i’ll pull them out if you let me into congress or the white house, will get the vote. hopefully, that will take place they can all come home! why doesn’t swizterland build a HUGE boxing ring and anytime one country’s leaders have beef with another one, they can duke it out like men? it would save time and money which can be used to build up each country the way the ppl want, b/c what we have right now, IS NOT WORKING! i DO NOT feel safer with the whole of the US military in SOMEONE ELSE’S country. aren’t they supposed to protect me here? yeah. think about it! george washington once said that we should stay out of other country’s affairs as we had a whole ocean to seperate us. so much for following the forefathers we love so damned much……..</p> my boyfriend is with the 172nd from alaska. we planned to get married at city hall when he got back. i guess my wedding will be a nice christmas present. i’m not too horribly upset b/c i didn’t think he’d be back home (we’re from missouri) til september after getting all the paperwork to let the army know he had a dependent done. knowing what i know now, through phone calls from him and what i’ve been reading in the news, i’m more upset for those that have families in fairbanks or who told their families to meet them there after they got back. all those plans ruined by a bunch of idiots who don’t have much military experience if they got any at all. we’ve know for THREE YEARS that baghdad was the holdout point and they wait til NOW to take it?! wtf?! you strike at the home front first. that leads to a trickle down effect that would have made it easier in other provinces in iraq, but no, they want to do this the HARD WAY! fine! but i can guarentee you that the first person in november that says, i’ll pull them out if you let me into congress or the white house, will get the vote. hopefully, that will take place they can all come home! why doesn’t swizterland build a HUGE boxing ring and anytime one country’s leaders have beef with another one, they can duke it out like men? it would save time and money which can be used to build up each country the way the ppl want, b/c what we have right now, IS NOT WORKING! i DO NOT feel safer with the whole of the US military in SOMEONE ELSE’S country. aren’t they supposed to protect me here? yeah. think about it! george washington once said that we should stay out of other country’s affairs as we had a whole ocean to seperate us. so much for following the forefathers we love so damned much……..

]]> By: TR http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245273 TR Tue, 15 Aug 2006 20:47:13 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245273 <p><a href="#comment-245101"><em>Sally @<br /> 118 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>TR, undoubtedly you’ve heard the military’s refrain: If we wanted you to have a spouse, we’d have issued you one. And they mean it.</p></blockquote> <p>Oh yeah, I’ve heard it more than a few times…usually when I was making waves of some sort or another.</p> <p>I’m such a bad TR at times.</p> Sally @
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TR, undoubtedly you’ve heard the military’s refrain: If we wanted you to have a spouse, we’d have issued you one. And they mean it.

Oh yeah, I’ve heard it more than a few times…usually when I was making waves of some sort or another.

I’m such a bad TR at times.

]]> By: freepatriot http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245113 freepatriot Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:07:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245113 <p>our little “tools” are screwed up</p> <p>that post at 119 shouldn’t be formatted like that</p> <p>I used the “quote this comment” link, and everything ended up in the quote box</p> <p>I’m jus sayin, is all</p> our little “tools” are screwed up

that post at 119 shouldn’t be formatted like that

I used the “quote this comment” link, and everything ended up in the quote box

I’m jus sayin, is all

]]> By: freepatriot http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245111 freepatriot Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:05:55 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245111 <p><a href="#comment-244748"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @ 30 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Sally at 25 — the troops cannot do so, by UCMJ restrictions. Nor should they be able to, considering the implications for chain of command and the problems that could cause. They cannot speak publicly about their concerns — be we sure as hell can speak up on their behalf.</p> <p>Uhh, Christy, the troops CAN do that</p> <p>I believe it was actually Sailors who were responsible for starting the Russian Revolution …</p> <p>says a lot about george bush when you compare him to the failed Romanov dynasty</p> <p>jeb in ‘08 anybody ???</p> <p>They deserve better than what they are getting — from piss poor planning to cuts in VA benefits.</p></blockquote> Christy Hardin Smith @ 30

Sally at 25 — the troops cannot do so, by UCMJ restrictions. Nor should they be able to, considering the implications for chain of command and the problems that could cause. They cannot speak publicly about their concerns — be we sure as hell can speak up on their behalf.

Uhh, Christy, the troops CAN do that

I believe it was actually Sailors who were responsible for starting the Russian Revolution …

says a lot about george bush when you compare him to the failed Romanov dynasty

jeb in ‘08 anybody ???

They deserve better than what they are getting — from piss poor planning to cuts in VA benefits.

]]> By: Sally http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245101 Sally Tue, 15 Aug 2006 18:55:11 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245101 <p>TR, undoubtedly you’ve heard the military’s refrain: If we wanted you to have a spouse, we’d have issued you one. And they mean it.</p> TR, undoubtedly you’ve heard the military’s refrain: If we wanted you to have a spouse, we’d have issued you one. And they mean it.

]]> By: TR http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245011 TR Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:43:20 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245011 <p><a href="#comment-244748"><em>Christy Hardin Smith @<br /> 30 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Sally at 25 — the troops cannot do so, by UCMJ restrictions. Nor should they be able to, considering the implications for chain of command and the problems that could cause. They cannot speak publicly about their concerns — be we sure as hell can speak up on their behalf.</p> <p>They deserve better than what they are getting — from piss poor planning to cuts in VA benefits.</p></blockquote> <p>Once, a first sergeant asked the spouse if he would “get her under control”, meaning me(I was making noise and being generally a PITA about something I thought unfair being done in the squadron). The spouse, to his unending credit, said he shrugged and said he’d never been able to control me and had no plans to ever try.</p> <p>The families may be reluctant to speak out because they know it could cause trouble for their AD member and they’re already dealing with enough grief in their lives without adding pressure from the military to shut up. It takes a really strong person to be able to take that pressure and still keep speaking out.</p> Christy Hardin Smith @
30

Sally at 25 — the troops cannot do so, by UCMJ restrictions. Nor should they be able to, considering the implications for chain of command and the problems that could cause. They cannot speak publicly about their concerns — be we sure as hell can speak up on their behalf.

They deserve better than what they are getting — from piss poor planning to cuts in VA benefits.

Once, a first sergeant asked the spouse if he would “get her under control”, meaning me(I was making noise and being generally a PITA about something I thought unfair being done in the squadron). The spouse, to his unending credit, said he shrugged and said he’d never been able to control me and had no plans to ever try.

The families may be reluctant to speak out because they know it could cause trouble for their AD member and they’re already dealing with enough grief in their lives without adding pressure from the military to shut up. It takes a really strong person to be able to take that pressure and still keep speaking out.

]]> By: Adie http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245004 Adie Tue, 15 Aug 2006 17:40:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-245004 <p>Carolyn Urban at 8:20am</p> <p>Thank you for asking, and for your concern.</p> <p>I wish I had an answer. We are stuck here with an ego-religio-maniac as Secy of State who’s controlling the election process for himself (he’s running for Governor) as well as all the other races. Our dilemma is described pretty well in New Yorker article linked below.</p> <p><a href="http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/articles/060731fa_fact1">http://www.newyorker.com/fact/.....31fa_fact1</a></p> <p>I would be very grateful if FDL folks would ask Sherrod Brown (running agnst repub. DeWine for Senate) how FDLers can help re this problem. Sherrod’s going to be highlighted on “Blue America” segment at FDL tomorrow, Wed. 8/16, 5:30pm ET/2:30pm PT.</p> <p><a href="http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/09/blue-america-updates-and-sherrod-brown-special-session/">http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....l-session/</a></p> <p>Sherrod truly is one of our real heroes. I already took up a big chunk-a space on a previous thread touting his virtues, so I probably shouldn’t belabor the issue here. Suffice to say, from what I’ve seen & heard about Ned Lamont, they share a lot of the same sterling qualities.</p> Carolyn Urban at 8:20am

Thank you for asking, and for your concern.

I wish I had an answer. We are stuck here with an ego-religio-maniac as Secy of State who’s controlling the election process for himself (he’s running for Governor) as well as all the other races. Our dilemma is described pretty well in New Yorker article linked below.

http://www.newyorker.com/fact/…..31fa_fact1

I would be very grateful if FDL folks would ask Sherrod Brown (running agnst repub. DeWine for Senate) how FDLers can help re this problem. Sherrod’s going to be highlighted on “Blue America” segment at FDL tomorrow, Wed. 8/16, 5:30pm ET/2:30pm PT.

http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..l-session/

Sherrod truly is one of our real heroes. I already took up a big chunk-a space on a previous thread touting his virtues, so I probably shouldn’t belabor the issue here. Suffice to say, from what I’ve seen & heard about Ned Lamont, they share a lot of the same sterling qualities.

]]> By: expatjourno http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-244936 expatjourno Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:51:07 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-244936 <p>I can’t help thinking about the kids of the 300 soldiers. Imagine them jumping up and down with joy because daddy’s coming home and then being told that no, he isn’t. People in the Bush Administration just aren’t human.</p> I can’t help thinking about the kids of the 300 soldiers. Imagine them jumping up and down with joy because daddy’s coming home and then being told that no, he isn’t. People in the Bush Administration just aren’t human.

]]> By: wesgpc’s votinglinks http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-244931 wesgpc’s votinglinks Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:48:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-244931 <p>Sobering but very good post. How’s it feel to have George Will backing you up? Strange, I bet.</p> Sobering but very good post. How’s it feel to have George Will backing you up? Strange, I bet.

]]> By: carolyn urban http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-244909 carolyn urban Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:34:27 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/15/not-forgotten/#comment-244909 <p>Norske, you say you’ve failed, but it sounds to me like you’re still fighting.</p> Norske, you say you’ve failed, but it sounds to me like you’re still fighting.

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