Login HereI know Christy has already weighed in on this, but I just could not help myself.
Over the course of the last couple of weeks the media has made it clear that public officials (or those desiring to be such) are responsible for the opinions of those who support them (if and only if they are bloggers -- talk radio shock jocks seem to have some kind of special dispensation). There is evidently a new rule in place that if those supporters express opinions with which those individuals do not agree, it is incumbent upon them to be publicly answerable nonetheless.
Fine. I think we need to see a little consistency here, don't you?
Now that Wolcott's perennial favorite, Pamela Atlas, has plunked herself down to interview John Bolton (not once but twice), I think we're entitled to know -- does Bolton stand chest-to-chest with all of Pammie's opinions? Because for someone who is apparently one vote away from a filibuster, that would indeed be news. You can see Pam in all her glory in the YouTube above.
Does John Bolton support the sentiments which spew forth every day from his supporter, journalist Pamela Oshry? Bush officials have long gotten away with kowtowing to the most virulent extremists who compose the base of their support. Now they are using those same extremists as pretend journalists who "interview" them. Maybe some of the intrepid journalists who wrote all about the fascinating Ned Lamont blackface scandal can take a look at some of the statements made by John Bolton's favorite supporter and see if there might be a story there about the sentiments which are routinely spewed from that crowd. Is this a person to whom top Bush officials should be giving "interviews" and soliciting their support?
How about it, Howard Kurtz? Chris Matthews? Wolf Blitzer? Where's your outrage? I defy anyone to watch that YouTube above, read a couple of Pamela's more scintillating columns and tell me why the new journalistic canon with regard to bloggers should not go double for Bolton and Miss Thumbs. Where's her invitation to be on Hardball, Chris? I do not think the world should be deprived. Couple of voddies, a fish tank and a stylist pulling from Trashy Lingerie and you've got a ratings bonanza on your hands, my man. Let's see who the would-be UN Ambassador is in bed with (metaphorically speaking, of course).
Digby and Retardo have more on this tit-for-tat. I think somebody should be putting these questions to John Bolton, don't you?
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First? Get the hell out…
Where is everybody?
Egregious!
Nefarious!
But no Outrageous?
Inconceivable!!!
Jane, the comments link goes to ‘#respond’ instead of ‘#comments’.
ahh…ya fixed it fast.
Drats…
And sorry to go OT at the beginning of a thread, but Sen. George Allen made a major, major racist foul claim against a Jim Webb campaigner. Read it (and hopefully video soon) here.
blogs are an easy mark because everything is written down and catalogued on Google, et al.
talk radio is harder to nail. you have to hope someone was listening, recorded the show, made an MP3, and posted it or something.
also the media likes picking on liberals so this makes it easier.
Jane, I’ll never forgive you for subjecting me to that.
Hi, The video that I would like to see is the one where George Allen not only mocks Webb’s worker but also issues racist comments and the Repubs laugh in the background. Imagine that being a dem.
“I defy anyone to watch that YouTube above, read a couple of Pamela’s more scintillating columns and tell me why the new journalistic canon with regard to bloggers should not go double for Bolton and Miss Thumbs.”
So true, Jane. Watching the C&L tape of Lamont on one of the Sunday morning shows - the inanity of the questioner, the calm of Lamont. These media boobs are being overmatched more and more every day.
I doubt ANY MSM outlets will pick up on how absurd Pamela’s Bolton interview actually is, but we can hope……
Please, no more of that. I would like to keep my lunch down. I hate wasting food.
OT again - Got the Allen comments on video here. Way to be a dick. And the WaPo has picked it up already.
Atrios has the Allen video up. And we talked about it already in the previous cat thread hehe.
Jane
My eyeballs are bleeding.
Why are you doing this to us?
Surely watching this violates some part of article 3 of the Geneva Conventions
“CNN In the Money” had a blog-comment-reporting segment yesterday. Their examples of wingnuttia were comments (one, each) from hughhewitt.com and Americablog. Maybe they need to be pointed at LGF and company? Or the more trolly bits of HuffPo?
Jane -
Asking for consistency in this is asking for the hobgoblins to come out of some little minds. Howie, Tweety and The Beard don’t want to go anywhere near those hobgoblins.
Tucker
grs @
5
Yeah, that is sickening and should be blasted all over the MSM. We’ve got to keep pushing for that.
JPL @ 8
You know, this stuff - the Allen crowd, Pamela’s racist hatred toward Arabs, Savage, whatshername that TRex covered here last night - it all happens every hour of every day on just about every established radio and TV network in the country.
Sorry I should’ve included bleach and steel wool with that YouTube.
Bush Administration—–Lethal Lunatics
For blogspot.com hosted pics, you have to link to the article, not the picture directly.
looseheadprop @ 13
Hmmm, about time for a remake of “Clockwork Orange.” Where’s Stanley Kubrick when you really need him?
I think I know her daughter!
Jane,
You have mail.
I can’t stand CNN! Wolf (AIPAC) Blitzer is forever beating the war and terrorism drum, attempting to lift the fear factor to extreme levels just in time for Nov., spewing outright lies and half truths. Thank Heaven for Cafferty on that channel.
grs@5 more OT Atrios reports that the word used by Allen is a recognized racial slur: Macaque: Belgian/French-Negro especially North African.
Allen is an Idiot Savant (I can’t remember the correct modern term)of racial slurs.
In bushworld Freedom = Feardom.
I’ve seen her once. That is enough. A real scatterbrain.
That video. What a scream! I guess this is what’s called ‘dark-humor’. The Arafat mention catches my attention. Recall how Israel and the neo-idiots were constantly raging that once Yasser was gone: end of Middle East probs.
Bobby St. Chomsky @ 25
..and to top that off, CNN now has a tag line where they say something like “more news without the fear.” I know that’s not it but next time i hear it, I will make note and let ya know.
My ears! Oh God my eyes! Never do that again. Please?
Steve @
26
George Felix Allen has a French mother — perhaps Maman taught her child such exotic slurs?
Pammie sounds like she and Jeff Gannon might have been j-school classmates at Wingnut U.
I can’t believe I started to watch that. I thought you all were joking about bleaching your eyes. I lated a minute. It would be better if she were in front of a waterboarding tank, not a fish tank, of course, it would make the waterborading useless, as anyone would rather drown. The interogators would push the dead suspects out of the way to drown themselves rather than hear it sing again.
The only way a person like Pamela would get a meeting with Ambassador John Bolton is if she meets with the approval of people in Bolton’s staff. That tells you a lot about Bolton.
Ilson@32 you are f-ing brilliant.
Patrick Kennedy @ 35
Yeah, his staff must really hate him.
Jane Hamsher @ 19
Jane, you’re one of my favorite bloggers.
If you post that video again, I’ll strangle you with your own intestines.
John Dean on Lou Dobbs right now — er — was!
For those of you with Sirius, you can play “Torture the Wingnut.”
Debbie Schlussel, a D-list Gambino talking head, will be sitting in for Scott Ferrell on Howard 100 to talk about her experience with lobotomies. Feel free to call her a fucking dumbass live and uncensored. 888-STERN-101. Enjoy!
Geopolitical commentary by Nomi in “Showgirls.”
I am physically, mentally and emotionally incapable of either reading or watching that. . . woman.
Felix Allen has a French mother–that’s it. That’s the proof. I lived in Paris a long time ago, for a few years, and when I read this today I knew I’d heard that term before!
OT but I HAD to haul this upstairs.
Andrea Knutson @ 187
Wolfie the breathless…
Also this hour, target USA. Is there a secret weapon for screening out terrorists before they strike? We are following up on the foiled airline bomb plot.
And we’ve been testing some brand new technology as part of the day-long coverage of the terror threat.
And terror on election day. The renewed focus on security is playing into Karl Rove’s campaign advice to Republicans. Will voters prove him right or wrong? I am Wolf Blitzer in Jerusalem. You are in THE SITUATION ROOM.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA.....om.01.html
This is too, too rich! First Georgie learns such slurs at his momma’s knee and hurls them willy nilly and then his staffers spin “macaque” into mohawk in honor of his dear papa the coach of the “Redskins” et voila!
A video emerges that tells us the very real and ugly troof!
He used the N-bomb incessantly and ruptured my ears and senses repeatedly a while ago…
jest sayin’
Hey folks! I may never catch up with all the wonderful comments and splendiferous blog postings here, though I try madly. Just spent an hour reading below, and wanted to pop in to say hi and offer my continued love and support to the firepups.
Have not chimed in sooner because we have had a nasty annoyance to deal with at home:
Mr. K8 has been contending with a “stalker” of sorts — an ex-employee from his place of business. Said fired person was fired because he was stealing from the company. Although the firing was mandated from on high, Mr. K8 as the supervisor was required to do the firing, a step with which he was in complete accord. The guy at first seemed to take it OK, cleared his stuff out, and the security code on the doors at work was changed.
By the end of last week, it was clear that this fellow was trying to follow Mr. K8 home from work, twice — this was taking place more than two weeks after he was fired.
We had to make police reports, etc. Mr. K8 installed security cameras around the house, which are hooked up to a teevee on my desk. I have a photo of the creep, so I can recognize him if he comes by, along with a pic of the make and model car he drives (provided he doesn’t use his wife’s car). If this creep comes anywhere near Mr. K8 or me, the cops have promised to swoop down on him toot sweet. The cops said the fact he’s trying to tail Mr. K8 a full 2 weeks after the firing is NOT a good sign, so they are taking this very seriously.
So, anyway, that’s how I’ve been. How are y’all?
Have to head our to physical therapy now — will pop in again later this evening.
Blessings on all who fight the good fight against the warmongers! Smooches to firepups!
I’m actually more offended by Allen His Smarminess saying “Welcome to America” than whatever macaque means. That’s what disgusts me the most.
what the….?
She. is. lying. on. her. stomach. with. her. flailing. feet. in. the. air.
ouch. I couldn’t make it past about 0:37 of that gawdawful video.
Since she wants to get all Rand-y and inty-lick-shoe-all on us with the “Atlas” biz, let’s take the mythological approach instead. I’m thinking more along the lines of “harpy“:
Hey Mrs. K8!
Been thinking about you and hope you’re feeling OK…
The scary thing is, is from Israel’s perspective, Israel did NOT win in Lebanon. A much different out come than in 1967. The wonder is: will this tempt Israel to use the “red-phone” and press the button? Next time. For once that happens, it’s all over folks.
Time for a conference on blogger sensibilities.
Unfucking believable. I want to apologise to all the real women in the world right now, this very minute, for that poorest of excuses of what is trying to pass for our gender. I didn’t think many more things could cause my jaw to flop open but once again with these racist fascists they’ve done it again. What an embarrassment. Yo, Pam, you’re unbecoming, not to mention no better than a drunk whore. Oh wait…
Smooches back at you, Mrs K8, and glad you all are taking steps to keep the stalker away!
I found this comment at http://tooconservative.com
Re: George Allen’s “macaca” remark to a Webb campaign filmer. I have no clue as to its reliability, but I googled on “macaca (plus) tunisia” and pulled up an entry that referred to the Macaque monkey that is indigenous to Tunisia and other places. The wiki entry refers to the fact that Allen’s mother is of Jewish heritage and is from Tunisia.
*ilson,
Also have you seen the young man that Allen’s press flack tried to say that he was called “Mohwak” because of his hairdo?
Here he is. That hair hasn’t seen a “Mohawk” hairdo ever.
http://www.dailykos.com/commen.....0/301#c301
This is really a twofer. They may have called him “Mohawk” but it was because the idiot racists and nativists thoughts work thusly.
Speculated conversation at Allen’s Camp Cracker:
Q:”Who is this dark skinned kid working for Webb?”
A:”Apparently he is an Indian.”
Q: “The headress type or the dot-head type?”
A: “Let’s just call him Mohawk, that’ll be funny either way. Ha, ha, ha.”
A little history on “makkakkah” as a racist slur.
http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad.....macac.html
-GSD
OT - During Chimpy’s speech today, he stammered through this:
He’s talking about people of the M.E. but he could be talking about an increasing number of people in this country who are tired of BushCo’s ‘false promises and grand illusions’.
Jane Hamsher @
19
Jane - please click on this link - http://jameswolcott.com/about.php - and look at the picture on the cover of James Wolcott’s book. How many attack poodles do you think might help? (g)
Mrs. K8…
Was beginning to think you left us and went to Heaven.
Steve @ 26
Well, you got it half right, anyway.
How come she is not saying that evangelical christians (George W. Bush) want to kill all the jews (or make them convert to Christianity)? Isn’t that what happens in the rapture?
Ok. I didn’t watch that clip when it initially made the rounds. oh. my. fu. cking. god. I can’t look away. But I must. But I can’t.
My eyes burn.
Your daily gas and oil prices.
Average price for regular gasoline 8/14/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 29 states
$2.90 plus 18 states
$2.80 plus 4 state
Average national price: $3.004, down $.010
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.363
Lowest average price: South Carolina $2.836
Nymex Crude Future $73.38, down $.97
Dated Brent Spot $74.28, down $1.52
WTI Cushing Spot $73.53, down $.92
Gas prices have fallen about 3 cents in the last few days. Given the size of the US market, this is a big decrease although overall prices remain high. Oil prices have also declined but also remain high. Factors for this are the ceasefire in Lebanon, the partial restoration of Prudhoe Bay production, and perhaps most importantly new security rules for airline passengers. This last could have a depressive effect on the air industry and on the consumption of aviation fuel.
take care and be careful, famille K8!
Shez @ 54
Shez,
Glad you said that. I started to but then realized I would have to apologize for Dumya, Darth Cheney, Ronald Dumsfeld, Bolton…
Tony Snow should be asked tomorrow whether or not Bush supports the Republican candidate in VA.
From David Sirota’s post on HP: “From now on, I am going to be referring to Joe Lieberman as De Facto GOP Nominee Joe Lieberman and I urge everyone else covering this race to do so in the interest not of partisanship, but out of respect for objective accuracy.”
I agree. Put him on the defensive full time trying to prove that he is not part of the GOP but still get all the GOP votes.
Have mercy on us, Jane. That beast is a walking amalgam of all the worst aspects of the human race.
No wonder she’s hammered. I couldn’t go through life that repugnant AND sober.
that video confirms the wisdom of my Kinsey 6.0
Jacqrat @
49
Well, on further contemplation it isn’t her STOMACH. It’s her “hoo-haw”!
What on earth…?
just think of all the trouble we’re putting the NSA types to when we view stuff like this….
@61 I was amazed at the dichotomy. A genius at pulling an obscure racial slur out of his ass, on the fly: and in addition to his other idiot behavior; applying the term to the wrong racial/ethnic group.
I think I would have to say the Georgie Allen is in deep muh-caca.
It’s so nice of all these rightard racists to get their true colors out on the table this close to election day.
Seymour Hersh likens George W. to a fourth-grader fighting on the playground in the sandbox. On Hardball.
NEVERMIND…
She’s in front of a MIRROR. D’oh.
Phew. That was a truly frightening thought. Glad I was wrong.
Bwahahahaha OFG,
It’s such a shame when we have to cringe so much at the human race. She, it, gives new meaning to ‘claptrap’.
TRex @ 74
And as far as I can tell, the Webb staffer is a young college student, an American citizen. “Welcome to America” my ass. This ignorance just really burns me.
claptrap.
ewww.
OT- Sterno Sue Strikes Again
Lamont and Lieberman try to shore up support in wake of primary
By Susan Haigh, AP Political Writer | August 14, 2006
http://www.boston.com/news/loc.....f_primary/
And, BTW, I hope FDL will go after Gerstein- comment that is older, but couldn’t ref. before what with the previous slowness…
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-240841
Gentleman Jim says: August 12th, 2006 at 5:44 pm *
Oilfieldguy @ 79
antibiotics often work …
I think we are overestimating the political importance of Bolton’s interview with Pamela. In this instance, he isn’t trying to bolster “alternative” (i.e., right-wing) media outlets; otherwise, he’d be making himself available to Goldstein, Misha, LGF, others of Pam’s ilk.
No, Bolton, God help him, wants to get with that.
I can’t actually comment on Atlas because I refuse to acknowledge her existence. I’m staying in my bubble… la la la I can’t hear you!
Oilfieldguy @ 79
Syphilis shrugged
The Democrats will win back the Congress this fall. And if we play our cards properly. And if we live that long, we will capture the WH in ‘08.
Oh here it is:
For shame, Allen!
Ha. Haahahahahahahahah!!!
I am SO glad I got back here when I did…I didn’t watch the video, only read the post.
And ALL these comments.
Bwa-hahahahahahah!!!
But seriously, a round of Visine and vodka for everyone after that; I don’t remember when I’ve seen an FDL thread quite so stunned by the immensity of the posted content.
Who would ever have dreamed that such stupidity could walk and talk at the same time. Let alone that the guy bucking for the ambassadorship between our country and the U.N. would be equally STUPID to spend more than two minutes with this poor and shallow imitation of a woman.
Thanks for sparing me, guys; I so appreciate your candor here, saved me from having to scrub down with Lysol and the belt sander.
That clip is astounding. What a strange stream of consciousness. She doesn’t even make a coherent point. She is a laughing stock…saying she doesn’t know anything about the Israel and then going on about it. WTF?
Yeah hold someone accountable for this drivel. If left blogostan is responsible for various quotes taken out of context…well by all means hang this woman along with the war in Iraq around Bushco’s neck.
OT - blitzer insists the ceasefire is ending because 10 rockets were fired that landed in S. Lebanon (as reported by the IDF). Meanwhile, the 2 correspondents he is talking to say there has been no (zero) mention of the ceasefire ending even though the rockets were fired.
Blitzer is always happy to report his speculation as fact.
Great.
A drunk crack head.
That woman is bug fucking insane.
Bolton can keep her.
Btw, Did she happen to claw her way out of Hades with Ann Coulter?
Lovely bookends.
WOW What a Vid!
Infidel Juice?
I think I damaged my chromosomes - big time!
Um, Rayne … about your belt-sander.
medaka came by and asked to borrow it. We haven’t seen him or it since. Sorry. We know he’s just caught in the tooobz with it . . .
*ilson46201 @ 81
no milk, no beer, three days.
twolf1 @ 4:11 says:
He’s talking about people of the M.E. but he could be talking about an increasing number of people in this country who are tired of BushCo’s ‘false promises and grand illusions’
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For the longest time now I’ve trained myself whenever hearing bush condemn his enemies–the “bad guys”–to interpret his words as him speaking about himself and his admin.
At this point in time the interpretation comes naturally to me, without my consciously thinking about it, and you know what, he is so RIGHT ON!!!
I’ll never be able to remember Captain Kangaroo without thinking about this video.
Where have you gone, Mr. Greenjeans?
Oh dear me, at a loss. Tipping the hat to ‘Shrub’, having nightmarishie thoughts. HHEEEELLLLLPPPPPPP
punaise @ 71
If only the board software automatically translated the comments to Arabic :)
Atrios had a bio where Sidarth was born in VA. One conservative commentator mentioned that maybe he just got his name wrong. Jane, I grew up in MA, lived for awhile in CT and now reside pretty close to TREX. I also do volunteer work and a young local college student mentioned that she was born in CT. She also asked something odd, she asked if I talked to my New England friends every day like her mom to which I said yes, us northerners are like that.
Is there some kind of Roots presence that delivers key videos to Congressional staffers?
Kurt @ 97
Then they’d never get it.
al-Scoots, I don’t think Chimpy got to watch Mr. Greenjeans. And whoever is responsible for that [lookin’ at you, Quakers Oats guy] has more to answer for than the human imagination can hold.
bbl
I think Pamela’s video has serious legs wrt the TM. How is Bolten supposed to refuse giving an interview to any Journalist, now that he has given one to Pamela?
Valley Girl @ 99
If there isn’t this week, I betcha there will be by next. We got all these wonderful new tools promised, right, Pach?
Yo … Pach!
John C, excellent point.
lotus- just gotta figure out which staffers are the ones who like YouTube.
Allen thinks racist comments are just firming up his base. In today’s environment of more open nativism and racism, I think he is correct. His audience was hearing exactly what they wanted to hear.
John C- yes- great idea time for an FDL blogger interview with Bolton- I mean, how can he say no after giving head to Pamela? Jane, Christy, Pach?
Pam is the new Katherine Harris.
They’re not even bothering with subliminals anymore. It’s just cheaper for them to admit who they are: lying, stealing parasite pimps and killers. And we’re paying for our own bullet.
What we’re seeing passed for satire not so long ago. That’s why Jon Stewart IS the news.
Okay, I watched it.
That ruined the very nice Cuban style chicken and rice I made for dinner tonight.
“Where’s the Outage?”
- pull the plug on that creature….
This is the greatest argument against video blogging I’ve ever seen. Watching this horrible woman say (and sing!) these horrible things is so much worse than reading her (which is also intolerable). Why would even anyone who agrees with her watch this?
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Bibi Netanyahu is fully aboard the Ahmadinejad=Hitler bandwagon.
Myabe Pammy can interview Bibi too.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articl.....78,00.html
-GSD
A-t-elle des tetons grands? :)
Maybe Ms. Atlas should watch George Galloway’s response on Sky News..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
Tweety just showed Lieberman’s new commercial. Breaking news: Joe Lieberman is coming out in favor of unity. The deluded has-been who abandoned the Democratic Party and is now trying to tear it apart, is for unity. Unity of what? Wingnuttia, apparently. There’s no room for unity with the 60 percent of the American people who are against the war in Iraq…
Oh, and didn’t he say, during the primary, that he is for diversity?
twolf1 @ 113
I have one of those - that explains the singed jeans.
Reading Froomkin. Our value, as recorded by history, might well be in amplifying fringe views until they become mainstream.
One of our finest moments, I am persuaded in retrospect, is our blogswarm in support of Froomkin. He is OUT there in the corporate media.
Also wd like to say for the record, Murray Waas ROCKS. Pulitzer at a minimum.
We took on the orphan Plame case and breathed enough air unto it that it stayed alive; then our hosts found a tiny clean spot on the wall called Lamont and called the world’s attention to him.
Along the way we have slain dragons large and small. I quiver to write this because I have the intuition–same that has landed me multiple zero comments–that fdl has very significant victories in the future.
For those of us who evaluate things spiritually, it is an exciting place to be. We are amidst something very important. Hang on for the wild ride.