I know Christy has already weighed in on this, but I just could not help myself.
Over the course of the last couple of weeks the media has made it clear that public officials (or those desiring to be such) are responsible for the opinions of those who support them (if and only if they are bloggers — talk radio shock jocks seem to have some kind of special dispensation). There is evidently a new rule in place that if those supporters express opinions with which those individuals do not agree, it is incumbent upon them to be publicly answerable nonetheless.
Fine. I think we need to see a little consistency here, don’t you?
Now that Wolcott’s perennial favorite, Pamela Atlas, has plunked herself down to interview John Bolton (not once but twice), I think we’re entitled to know — does Bolton stand chest-to-chest with all of Pammie’s opinions? Because for someone who is apparently one vote away from a filibuster, that would indeed be news. You can see Pam in all her glory in the YouTube above.
Does John Bolton support the sentiments which spew forth every day from his supporter, journalist Pamela Oshry? Bush officials have long gotten away with kowtowing to the most virulent extremists who compose the base of their support. Now they are using those same extremists as pretend journalists who "interview" them. Maybe some of the intrepid journalists who wrote all about the fascinating Ned Lamont blackface scandal can take a look at some of the statements made by John Bolton’s favorite supporter and see if there might be a story there about the sentiments which are routinely spewed from that crowd. Is this a person to whom top Bush officials should be giving "interviews" and soliciting their support?
How about it, Howard Kurtz? Chris Matthews? Wolf Blitzer? Where’s your outrage? I defy anyone to watch that YouTube above, read a couple of Pamela’s more scintillating columns and tell me why the new journalistic canon with regard to bloggers should not go double for Bolton and Miss Thumbs. Where’s her invitation to be on Hardball, Chris? I do not think the world should be deprived. Couple of voddies, a fish tank and a stylist pulling from Trashy Lingerie and you’ve got a ratings bonanza on your hands, my man. Let’s see who the would-be UN Ambassador is in bed with (metaphorically speaking, of course).
Digby and Retardo have more on this tit-for-tat. I think somebody should be putting these questions to John Bolton, don’t you?




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First? Get the hell out…
Where is everybody?
Egregious!
Nefarious!
But no Outrageous?
Inconceivable!!!
Jane, the comments link goes to ‘#respond’ instead of ‘#comments’.
ahh…ya fixed it fast.
Drats…
And sorry to go OT at the beginning of a thread, but Sen. George Allen made a major, major racist foul claim against a Jim Webb campaigner. Read it (and hopefully video soon) here.
blogs are an easy mark because everything is written down and catalogued on Google, et al.
talk radio is harder to nail. you have to hope someone was listening, recorded the show, made an MP3, and posted it or something.
also the media likes picking on liberals so this makes it easier.
Jane, I’ll never forgive you for subjecting me to that.
Hi, The video that I would like to see is the one where George Allen not only mocks Webb’s worker but also issues racist comments and the Repubs laugh in the background. Imagine that being a dem.
“I defy anyone to watch that YouTube above, read a couple of Pamela’s more scintillating columns and tell me why the new journalistic canon with regard to bloggers should not go double for Bolton and Miss Thumbs.”
So true, Jane. Watching the C&L tape of Lamont on one of the Sunday morning shows – the inanity of the questioner, the calm of Lamont. These media boobs are being overmatched more and more every day.
I doubt ANY MSM outlets will pick up on how absurd Pamela’s Bolton interview actually is, but we can hope……
Please, no more of that. I would like to keep my lunch down. I hate wasting food.
OT again – Got the Allen comments on video here. Way to be a dick. And the WaPo has picked it up already.
Atrios has the Allen video up. And we talked about it already in the previous cat thread hehe.
Jane
My eyeballs are bleeding.
Why are you doing this to us?
Surely watching this violates some part of article 3 of the Geneva Conventions
“CNN In the Money” had a blog-comment-reporting segment yesterday. Their examples of wingnuttia were comments (one, each) from hughhewitt.com and Americablog. Maybe they need to be pointed at LGF and company? Or the more trolly bits of HuffPo?
Jane –
Asking for consistency in this is asking for the hobgoblins to come out of some little minds. Howie, Tweety and The Beard don’t want to go anywhere near those hobgoblins.
Tucker
grs @
5
Yeah, that is sickening and should be blasted all over the MSM. We’ve got to keep pushing for that.
JPL @ 8
You know, this stuff – the Allen crowd, Pamela’s racist hatred toward Arabs, Savage, whatshername that TRex covered here last night – it all happens every hour of every day on just about every established radio and TV network in the country.
Sorry I should’ve included bleach and steel wool with that YouTube.
Bush Administration—–Lethal Lunatics
For blogspot.com hosted pics, you have to link to the article, not the picture directly.
looseheadprop @ 13
Hmmm, about time for a remake of “Clockwork Orange.” Where’s Stanley Kubrick when you really need him?
I think I know her daughter!
Jane,
You have mail.
I can’t stand CNN! Wolf (AIPAC) Blitzer is forever beating the war and terrorism drum, attempting to lift the fear factor to extreme levels just in time for Nov., spewing outright lies and half truths. Thank Heaven for Cafferty on that channel.
grs@5 more OT Atrios reports that the word used by Allen is a recognized racial slur: Macaque: Belgian/French-Negro especially North African.
Allen is an Idiot Savant (I can’t remember the correct modern term)of racial slurs.
In bushworld Freedom = Feardom.
I’ve seen her once. That is enough. A real scatterbrain.
That video. What a scream! I guess this is what’s called ‘dark-humor’. The Arafat mention catches my attention. Recall how Israel and the neo-idiots were constantly raging that once Yasser was gone: end of Middle East probs.
Bobby St. Chomsky @ 25
..and to top that off, CNN now has a tag line where they say something like “more news without the fear.” I know that’s not it but next time i hear it, I will make note and let ya know.
My ears! Oh God my eyes! Never do that again. Please?
Steve @
26
George Felix Allen has a French mother — perhaps Maman taught her child such exotic slurs?
Pammie sounds like she and Jeff Gannon might have been j-school classmates at Wingnut U.
I can’t believe I started to watch that. I thought you all were joking about bleaching your eyes. I lated a minute. It would be better if she were in front of a waterboarding tank, not a fish tank, of course, it would make the waterborading useless, as anyone would rather drown. The interogators would push the dead suspects out of the way to drown themselves rather than hear it sing again.
The only way a person like Pamela would get a meeting with Ambassador John Bolton is if she meets with the approval of people in Bolton’s staff. That tells you a lot about Bolton.
Ilson@32 you are f-ing brilliant.
Patrick Kennedy @ 35
Yeah, his staff must really hate him.
Jane Hamsher @ 19
Jane, you’re one of my favorite bloggers.
If you post that video again, I’ll strangle you with your own intestines.
John Dean on Lou Dobbs right now — er — was!
For those of you with Sirius, you can play “Torture the Wingnut.”
Debbie Schlussel, a D-list Gambino talking head, will be sitting in for Scott Ferrell on Howard 100 to talk about her experience with lobotomies. Feel free to call her a fucking dumbass live and uncensored. 888-STERN-101. Enjoy!
Geopolitical commentary by Nomi in “Showgirls.”
I am physically, mentally and emotionally incapable of either reading or watching that. . . woman.
Felix Allen has a French mother–that’s it. That’s the proof. I lived in Paris a long time ago, for a few years, and when I read this today I knew I’d heard that term before!
OT but I HAD to haul this upstairs.
Andrea Knutson @ 187
Wolfie the breathless…
Also this hour, target USA. Is there a secret weapon for screening out terrorists before they strike? We are following up on the foiled airline bomb plot.
And we’ve been testing some brand new technology as part of the day-long coverage of the terror threat.
And terror on election day. The renewed focus on security is playing into Karl Rove’s campaign advice to Republicans. Will voters prove him right or wrong? I am Wolf Blitzer in Jerusalem. You are in THE SITUATION ROOM.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRA…..om.01.html
This is too, too rich! First Georgie learns such slurs at his momma’s knee and hurls them willy nilly and then his staffers spin “macaque” into mohawk in honor of his dear papa the coach of the “Redskins” et voila!
A video emerges that tells us the very real and ugly troof!
He used the N-bomb incessantly and ruptured my ears and senses repeatedly a while ago…
jest sayin’
Hey folks! I may never catch up with all the wonderful comments and splendiferous blog postings here, though I try madly. Just spent an hour reading below, and wanted to pop in to say hi and offer my continued love and support to the firepups.
Have not chimed in sooner because we have had a nasty annoyance to deal with at home:
Mr. K8 has been contending with a “stalker” of sorts — an ex-employee from his place of business. Said fired person was fired because he was stealing from the company. Although the firing was mandated from on high, Mr. K8 as the supervisor was required to do the firing, a step with which he was in complete accord. The guy at first seemed to take it OK, cleared his stuff out, and the security code on the doors at work was changed.
By the end of last week, it was clear that this fellow was trying to follow Mr. K8 home from work, twice — this was taking place more than two weeks after he was fired.
We had to make police reports, etc. Mr. K8 installed security cameras around the house, which are hooked up to a teevee on my desk. I have a photo of the creep, so I can recognize him if he comes by, along with a pic of the make and model car he drives (provided he doesn’t use his wife’s car). If this creep comes anywhere near Mr. K8 or me, the cops have promised to swoop down on him toot sweet. The cops said the fact he’s trying to tail Mr. K8 a full 2 weeks after the firing is NOT a good sign, so they are taking this very seriously.
So, anyway, that’s how I’ve been. How are y’all?
Have to head our to physical therapy now — will pop in again later this evening.
Blessings on all who fight the good fight against the warmongers! Smooches to firepups!
I’m actually more offended by Allen His Smarminess saying “Welcome to America” than whatever macaque means. That’s what disgusts me the most.
what the….?
She. is. lying. on. her. stomach. with. her. flailing. feet. in. the. air.
ouch. I couldn’t make it past about 0:37 of that gawdawful video.
Since she wants to get all Rand-y and inty-lick-shoe-all on us with the “Atlas” biz, let’s take the mythological approach instead. I’m thinking more along the lines of “harpy“:
Hey Mrs. K8!
Been thinking about you and hope you’re feeling OK…
The scary thing is, is from Israel’s perspective, Israel did NOT win in Lebanon. A much different out come than in 1967. The wonder is: will this tempt Israel to use the “red-phone” and press the button? Next time. For once that happens, it’s all over folks.
Time for a conference on blogger sensibilities.
Unfucking believable. I want to apologise to all the real women in the world right now, this very minute, for that poorest of excuses of what is trying to pass for our gender. I didn’t think many more things could cause my jaw to flop open but once again with these racist fascists they’ve done it again. What an embarrassment. Yo, Pam, you’re unbecoming, not to mention no better than a drunk whore. Oh wait…
Smooches back at you, Mrs K8, and glad you all are taking steps to keep the stalker away!
I found this comment at http://tooconservative.com
Re: George Allen’s “macaca” remark to a Webb campaign filmer. I have no clue as to its reliability, but I googled on “macaca (plus) tunisia” and pulled up an entry that referred to the Macaque monkey that is indigenous to Tunisia and other places. The wiki entry refers to the fact that Allen’s mother is of Jewish heritage and is from Tunisia.
*ilson,
Also have you seen the young man that Allen’s press flack tried to say that he was called “Mohwak” because of his hairdo?
Here he is. That hair hasn’t seen a “Mohawk” hairdo ever.
http://www.dailykos.com/commen…..0/301#c301
This is really a twofer. They may have called him “Mohawk” but it was because the idiot racists and nativists thoughts work thusly.
Speculated conversation at Allen’s Camp Cracker:
Q:”Who is this dark skinned kid working for Webb?”
A:”Apparently he is an Indian.”
Q: “The headress type or the dot-head type?”
A: “Let’s just call him Mohawk, that’ll be funny either way. Ha, ha, ha.”
A little history on “makkakkah” as a racist slur.
http://jeffrey-feldman.typepad…..macac.html
-GSD
OT – During Chimpy’s speech today, he stammered through this:
He’s talking about people of the M.E. but he could be talking about an increasing number of people in this country who are tired of BushCo’s ‘false promises and grand illusions’.
Jane Hamsher @
19
Jane – please click on this link – http://jameswolcott.com/about.php – and look at the picture on the cover of James Wolcott’s book. How many attack poodles do you think might help? (g)
Mrs. K8…
Was beginning to think you left us and went to Heaven.
Steve @ 26
Well, you got it half right, anyway.
How come she is not saying that evangelical christians (George W. Bush) want to kill all the jews (or make them convert to Christianity)? Isn’t that what happens in the rapture?
Ok. I didn’t watch that clip when it initially made the rounds. oh. my. fu. cking. god. I can’t look away. But I must. But I can’t.
My eyes burn.
Your daily gas and oil prices.
Average price for regular gasoline 8/14/06 in 50 states and DC
$3.00 plus 29 states
$2.90 plus 18 states
$2.80 plus 4 state
Average national price: $3.004, down $.010
Highest recorded national average price: $3.057 9/5/2005
Highest average price: Hawaii $3.363
Lowest average price: South Carolina $2.836
Nymex Crude Future $73.38, down $.97
Dated Brent Spot $74.28, down $1.52
WTI Cushing Spot $73.53, down $.92
Gas prices have fallen about 3 cents in the last few days. Given the size of the US market, this is a big decrease although overall prices remain high. Oil prices have also declined but also remain high. Factors for this are the ceasefire in Lebanon, the partial restoration of Prudhoe Bay production, and perhaps most importantly new security rules for airline passengers. This last could have a depressive effect on the air industry and on the consumption of aviation fuel.
take care and be careful, famille K8!
Shez @ 54
Shez,
Glad you said that. I started to but then realized I would have to apologize for Dumya, Darth Cheney, Ronald Dumsfeld, Bolton…
Tony Snow should be asked tomorrow whether or not Bush supports the Republican candidate in VA.
From David Sirota’s post on HP: “From now on, I am going to be referring to Joe Lieberman as De Facto GOP Nominee Joe Lieberman and I urge everyone else covering this race to do so in the interest not of partisanship, but out of respect for objective accuracy.”
I agree. Put him on the defensive full time trying to prove that he is not part of the GOP but still get all the GOP votes.
Have mercy on us, Jane. That beast is a walking amalgam of all the worst aspects of the human race.
No wonder she’s hammered. I couldn’t go through life that repugnant AND sober.
that video confirms the wisdom of my Kinsey 6.0
Jacqrat @
49
Well, on further contemplation it isn’t her STOMACH. It’s her “hoo-haw”!
What on earth…?
just think of all the trouble we’re putting the NSA types to when we view stuff like this….
@61 I was amazed at the dichotomy. A genius at pulling an obscure racial slur out of his ass, on the fly: and in addition to his other idiot behavior; applying the term to the wrong racial/ethnic group.
I think I would have to say the Georgie Allen is in deep muh-caca.
It’s so nice of all these rightard racists to get their true colors out on the table this close to election day.
Seymour Hersh likens George W. to a fourth-grader fighting on the playground in the sandbox. On Hardball.
NEVERMIND…
She’s in front of a MIRROR. D’oh.
Phew. That was a truly frightening thought. Glad I was wrong.
Bwahahahaha OFG,
It’s such a shame when we have to cringe so much at the human race. She, it, gives new meaning to ‘claptrap’.
TRex @ 74
And as far as I can tell, the Webb staffer is a young college student, an American citizen. “Welcome to America” my ass. This ignorance just really burns me.
claptrap.
ewww.
OT- Sterno Sue Strikes Again
Lamont and Lieberman try to shore up support in wake of primary
By Susan Haigh, AP Political Writer | August 14, 2006
http://www.boston.com/news/loc…..f_primary/
And, BTW, I hope FDL will go after Gerstein- comment that is older, but couldn’t ref. before what with the previous slowness…
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-240841
Gentleman Jim says: August 12th, 2006 at 5:44 pm *
Oilfieldguy @ 79
antibiotics often work …
I think we are overestimating the political importance of Bolton’s interview with Pamela. In this instance, he isn’t trying to bolster “alternative” (i.e., right-wing) media outlets; otherwise, he’d be making himself available to Goldstein, Misha, LGF, others of Pam’s ilk.
No, Bolton, God help him, wants to get with that.
I can’t actually comment on Atlas because I refuse to acknowledge her existence. I’m staying in my bubble… la la la I can’t hear you!
Oilfieldguy @ 79
Syphilis shrugged
The Democrats will win back the Congress this fall. And if we play our cards properly. And if we live that long, we will capture the WH in ‘08.
Oh here it is:
For shame, Allen!
Ha. Haahahahahahahahah!!!
I am SO glad I got back here when I did…I didn’t watch the video, only read the post.
And ALL these comments.
Bwa-hahahahahahah!!!
But seriously, a round of Visine and vodka for everyone after that; I don’t remember when I’ve seen an FDL thread quite so stunned by the immensity of the posted content.
Who would ever have dreamed that such stupidity could walk and talk at the same time. Let alone that the guy bucking for the ambassadorship between our country and the U.N. would be equally STUPID to spend more than two minutes with this poor and shallow imitation of a woman.
Thanks for sparing me, guys; I so appreciate your candor here, saved me from having to scrub down with Lysol and the belt sander.
That clip is astounding. What a strange stream of consciousness. She doesn’t even make a coherent point. She is a laughing stock…saying she doesn’t know anything about the Israel and then going on about it. WTF?
Yeah hold someone accountable for this drivel. If left blogostan is responsible for various quotes taken out of context…well by all means hang this woman along with the war in Iraq around Bushco’s neck.
OT – blitzer insists the ceasefire is ending because 10 rockets were fired that landed in S. Lebanon (as reported by the IDF). Meanwhile, the 2 correspondents he is talking to say there has been no (zero) mention of the ceasefire ending even though the rockets were fired.
Blitzer is always happy to report his speculation as fact.
Great.
A drunk crack head.
That woman is bug fucking insane.
Bolton can keep her.
Btw, Did she happen to claw her way out of Hades with Ann Coulter?
Lovely bookends.
WOW What a Vid!
Infidel Juice?
I think I damaged my chromosomes – big time!
Um, Rayne … about your belt-sander.
medaka came by and asked to borrow it. We haven’t seen him or it since. Sorry. We know he’s just caught in the tooobz with it . . .
*ilson46201 @ 81
no milk, no beer, three days.
twolf1 @ 4:11 says:
He’s talking about people of the M.E. but he could be talking about an increasing number of people in this country who are tired of BushCo’s ‘false promises and grand illusions’
*************************************
For the longest time now I’ve trained myself whenever hearing bush condemn his enemies–the “bad guys”–to interpret his words as him speaking about himself and his admin.
At this point in time the interpretation comes naturally to me, without my consciously thinking about it, and you know what, he is so RIGHT ON!!!
I’ll never be able to remember Captain Kangaroo without thinking about this video.
Where have you gone, Mr. Greenjeans?
Oh dear me, at a loss. Tipping the hat to ‘Shrub’, having nightmarishie thoughts. HHEEEELLLLLPPPPPPP
punaise @ 71
If only the board software automatically translated the comments to Arabic :)
Atrios had a bio where Sidarth was born in VA. One conservative commentator mentioned that maybe he just got his name wrong. Jane, I grew up in MA, lived for awhile in CT and now reside pretty close to TREX. I also do volunteer work and a young local college student mentioned that she was born in CT. She also asked something odd, she asked if I talked to my New England friends every day like her mom to which I said yes, us northerners are like that.
Is there some kind of Roots presence that delivers key videos to Congressional staffers?
Kurt @ 97
Then they’d never get it.
al-Scoots, I don’t think Chimpy got to watch Mr. Greenjeans. And whoever is responsible for that [lookin’ at you, Quakers Oats guy] has more to answer for than the human imagination can hold.
bbl
I think Pamela’s video has serious legs wrt the TM. How is Bolten supposed to refuse giving an interview to any Journalist, now that he has given one to Pamela?
Valley Girl @ 99
If there isn’t this week, I betcha there will be by next. We got all these wonderful new tools promised, right, Pach?
Yo … Pach!
John C, excellent point.
lotus- just gotta figure out which staffers are the ones who like YouTube.
Allen thinks racist comments are just firming up his base. In today’s environment of more open nativism and racism, I think he is correct. His audience was hearing exactly what they wanted to hear.
John C- yes- great idea time for an FDL blogger interview with Bolton- I mean, how can he say no after giving head to Pamela? Jane, Christy, Pach?
Pam is the new Katherine Harris.
They’re not even bothering with subliminals anymore. It’s just cheaper for them to admit who they are: lying, stealing parasite pimps and killers. And we’re paying for our own bullet.
What we’re seeing passed for satire not so long ago. That’s why Jon Stewart IS the news.
Okay, I watched it.
That ruined the very nice Cuban style chicken and rice I made for dinner tonight.
“Where’s the Outage?”
- pull the plug on that creature….
This is the greatest argument against video blogging I’ve ever seen. Watching this horrible woman say (and sing!) these horrible things is so much worse than reading her (which is also intolerable). Why would even anyone who agrees with her watch this?
note for dell laptop owners. Dell is recalling 4,000,000 batteries because they can overheat and catch fire. that is all batteries shipped between April 1, 2004, and July 18 of this year.
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Bibi Netanyahu is fully aboard the Ahmadinejad=Hitler bandwagon.
Myabe Pammy can interview Bibi too.
http://www.ynetnews.com/articl…..78,00.html
-GSD
A-t-elle des tetons grands? :)
Maybe Ms. Atlas should watch George Galloway’s response on Sky News..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=249JaIaubVw
Tweety just showed Lieberman’s new commercial. Breaking news: Joe Lieberman is coming out in favor of unity. The deluded has-been who abandoned the Democratic Party and is now trying to tear it apart, is for unity. Unity of what? Wingnuttia, apparently. There’s no room for unity with the 60 percent of the American people who are against the war in Iraq…
Oh, and didn’t he say, during the primary, that he is for diversity?
twolf1 @ 113
I have one of those – that explains the singed jeans.
Reading Froomkin. Our value, as recorded by history, might well be in amplifying fringe views until they become mainstream.
One of our finest moments, I am persuaded in retrospect, is our blogswarm in support of Froomkin. He is OUT there in the corporate media.
Also wd like to say for the record, Murray Waas ROCKS. Pulitzer at a minimum.
We took on the orphan Plame case and breathed enough air unto it that it stayed alive; then our hosts found a tiny clean spot on the wall called Lamont and called the world’s attention to him.
Along the way we have slain dragons large and small. I quiver to write this because I have the intuition–same that has landed me multiple zero comments–that fdl has very significant victories in the future.
For those of us who evaluate things spiritually, it is an exciting place to be. We are amidst something very important. Hang on for the wild ride.
OfT
omg after airing what he called RGJoe’s “one-minute freebie,” Tweenty sez
shark been jumped.
Pachacutec @ 110
If it hadn’t been Pammie, the Phillies scoring a half-dozen on the Mets in the first inning would’ve done it.
I am late to the party, as usual.
I just read the question from Pamela that Redd quoted.
My mother, the English Grammar and Composition teacher (retired) would shed tears at the lack of quality in that “question”. Her red pencil would be used up in correcting faulty construction and all the other errors.
I read FDL for the quality of the ideas. The quality of the writing is similarly great.
Pamela should be send back to school for remedial English classes.
WenG — Oh.My.God. Can you imagine what Jon Stewart could do with this?
Would he have to do anything save for shaking his head and raise his eyebrows?
egregious:
I have a big ole crush on Murray.
Boy I’ve got a lotta catching up to on today’s fdl. Nice to see Valley Girl re-outing herself back to Valley Girlhood. Or perhaps that was ten threads ago and I missed it :)
Where the hell is Atrios, btw?
Rayne @ 123
Maybe holding his hands palms up and his shoulders scrunched. Thats the ticket.
Teddy –
NO. Tweety didn’t say that, did he???
Stick a fork in ‘em, Joe-moeba’s toast.
And Tweety’s got a man-crush on Ned.
Steve @ 107
Yes, this reminds me of the report on TV last night about the cops laughing it up in a video after they had shot a woman in a red dress in the back, legs, and face with rubber bullets, who was peacably protesting in a march. Turns out she’s an attorney. Oooops. Not so damn funny anymore now that she’s suing their badges off them.
TeddySanFran @ 120
My reaction exactly. Chris is saying Joe doesn’t know he’s dead.
Interesting, very short read from the British newspaper, The Independent on the ramp up to the Lebanon thing and Geroge Bush.
http://www.commondreams.org/he…..814-06.htm
Jane Hamsher @
19
I was thinking TSP and scotch brite myself but bleach and steel wool will work. Maybe a little jet fuel to use as a solvent.
Preach it, egy!
kth at 82,
That’s what I think too.
Otherwise, I just don’t know. He’s really stupid and shows horrible judgement whatever the reason.
Sharkbabe- sorry for the confusion. Whenever I have time to moderate comments I have to logon = Valley Girl- if I don’t log off then the comments get posted as VG. But, when I can’t moderate comments (time thingy) then I am “M”. I need to come up with a better solution. I outed myself when I was reading a thread and another “ValleyGirl” posted once (no VG space) and everyone welcomed me back. So, I felt that I had to fess up. Oh dear.
al-Scooter@100
Unfortunately, you may have a point.
I can’t find my link I just had, but a recent report is that State Dept is scraping the bottle of the language barrel. Prior reports – the military purge of gays also lost them several valuable language skills resources.
I have this horrible nightmare that Bush will invade Iran based on faulty translations.
Rice: Uh, Mr. President, you know how we said that our contacts in Iran said, “Bring the Likkud, come and bomb us in Tehran, we’ll love you for it!”
Bush: Mission Accomplished. Terror. Hussein. 9/11. Disband al-Qaeda desk. Fundraisers. Cake. Air Guitar. Ride my bike.
Rice: Apparently what they ACTUALLY said was, “Bring the liquor, come and get bombed with us in Tehran, we’ll love you for it!” Sir, is it too late to call back those nukes?
Bush: Boom. Boom boom. Paaaaammmm. Bolton go boom. Yo, Blair, lookee – BOOM! HeeHeeHee. Please, save me, save my life. Hee hee – BOOM.
Rice: I need a cup of coffee.
Thanks for the video.
I now feel sick to my stomach.
I’ve never seen this person before.
I have one question.
How old is this woman?
And why is she acting like she’s 15?
She looks to my eye as if she is over 30.
When you’re over 30, trying to get by on “cute” is hopeless.
Makes me wonder if the “swinger” with the bad rug gave her the interview as a tip.
And, BTW, I haven’t been able to read every thread as I did in times past (passed?) so what is with new “Mary for now” moniker? Surely it can’t be related to the yellow tie episode?
Did this broad go to the same school as Anne?
Ick. I feel nasty. I just played part of it for my daughter who’d been asking why I was laughing.
She gave the ultimate in teen responses — you know, the curled lip, the rolling of the eyes, the shudder.
I had to stop it. That creature’s brain is fried; there’s a quality I can’t describe to the halting speech, as if she was an android that needed to buffer more data before continuing.
My daughter agreed; she’s like a bad video.
No, she IS a bad video.
What ‘fascinating Ned Lamont blackface scandal’?
;>)
And just where did Bat-Lass Meshuggenah meet Yosemite John, anyway?…Was she another of his Plato’s Retreat pickups back in the day?
>:-B
Whoever was working behind the counter of that aquarium store must have been a little shocked and augghed.
As much fun as we’ve all had with this disturbing video, I would urge everyone to email a link to it to Senators Clinton and Schumer, both who have hinted they don’t intend to filibuster the Bolton nomination.
Perhaps this will cause them to rethink their stance, in light of the questionable judgement this shows. Why exactly would he be interviewed this woman for over an hour in the middle of the biggest crisis of his tenure?
Kurt- I like that idea.
OT – Laura Rozen has a story up that Ahmadinejad has put up a blog???????? Sheez freakin louise. Pam, the nutcase in Iran – what terror will complete the bloggerthreeway?
Egregious – your post belowthread about the next generation was just lovely.
This thread @119 – I like to think of it more as taking the mainstream thoughts and being willing to keep wiping away the mudslung propaganda until people can see them more clearly again. I don’t think there is anything fringe, when you wipe off the mud, about saying that giving up looking for Bin Laden to start a vanity war in Iraq was a bad idea, and even a kind of evil idea. I hope not at least. Days like this one, though, I wonder.
Valley Girl @
99
That’s a GOOD idea! If our eyeballs have to bleed, so should theirs. Maybe they’ll get pissed enough to actually fight.
Mary #100:
Unfortunately, you may have a point.
My wife says that on the good days.
But seriously, I’m with you on this one. I’ve pretty much devoured everything published on the old, original Pearl Harbor attack (Did we know? Or could we have known? What could we have done, etc.?) Lack of Japanese linguists was a major intel handicap through the first half of WW2, even with a crash program to train more.
But here we are, burning the competent Arabic linguists we already have. I could just scream.
LindyH- thanks- it was a serious suggestion. And, along with Kurt, I do think that Clinton and Schumer need to see this particular video, along with the points that Kurt made.
ccmask @ 138
Wellll, Trex’s immortal line last night would certainly fit, something about a meth-lab, a corner lamp-post…
Why does Tweety annoy me?
He keeps on cutting in on Sy Hersh’s comments… It is not about you Tweety-dum?
Sheesh,
Jack
Frameshop, via Josh:
yikes.
VG – hah! What a tangled web we weave and all that. Anyway good to see you back around as yourself. Still jealous of all you knuckleheads that got to CT and I couldn’t. Little did we know the war with media and money was barely begun with Ned kicking Shortride’s ass fair and square in the primary.
What ‘fascinating Ned Lamont blackface scandal’?
Back and kickin ass! Love you db.
Holy bookwoman @ 116
Yes, indeed!
Outta here to go read earlier stuff and then go to bed.
Fitz!
Jane!
egregious!
Juan Carlos!
Valley Girl @ 108
Oh gawd. I may never eat again.
It’s time to visit the right wing blogs simply to ask whether or not we can talk about George Allen now. Definitely interesting responses such as does cowboy boots make you racist. have a try….
OT: I just got this link from ebay regarding Net Neutrality:
http://www.ebaymainstreet.com/federal/?id=000076
Valley Girl
Just because there actually several Mary-s who have arrived at FDL *g*
Of course, I just today realized that when my laptop was working this morning, I was back to being “Mary” on it – so its been Sybil kind of day.
BTW – I’m not letting go of the fact that I have data to back up my tie theory.
I put the evidence in three links starting here
Mary(fn) 135
707 only goes so far.
punaise, HELP HALP HOLP! YOU came up with 707 — whaddya got for “that”-then-get-up-and-stagger-through-every-room-of-the-whole-frickin-house-trying-to-stop-laughing?
Hah?
I can’t see anything but the top of Pam’s outfit, but it looks like she borrowed it from the wardrobe of The Flintstones Show. The movie version, I guess. I think everyone else has covered the content and delivery of her reporting. But, I mean, but really…
This is low. Once again, I’m so embarrassed for my country.
If people here are puzzled as to why the Ambassador to the United Nations would deign to be interviewed by this deep decolletaged deployed airbag with the J.C. Penney bling-bling, remember that he used to be a patron of Plato’s Retreat in Manhattan, the orgiastic venue for overaged sexpots of the seventies. Can you imagine that Walrus moustache….well, better stop here.
I really don’t think anyone on Faux News would ask Bolton those questions. And no one “left” of Faux News will get a crack at an interview. Bolton is way too busy!
Mary for now @ 158
Tie a yellow ribbon ’round the old dork tree….
Can you imagine that Walrus moustache
lotus, you are making a mockery of my nightmares! That’s very sweet of you *g* Hopefully, I’ll sleep better tonight.
Holy cats!!! That video link that bookwoman posted is AWESOME!!!
Now THAT’S how to take on the sycophantic corporate media.
And THAT’S the rebuttal that has been so sorely needed to refute morons like that wretch trying to kill her tank of fish by osmosis.
Do check it out, it’s fantastic.
It will be interesting to see how media and GOP handles Allen calling a native Virginian and Webb campaign worker a monkey and/or something worse because they guy had South Asian parents. Will they try to blow it off because Allen did it in such a jovial regular ‘white-guy’ fashion who it might be OK to have a beer with? That has been the strategy with Bush.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..192310/391
I’ve read that Allen would be the designated next figure-head sociopath to follow Bush Jr, and I thought Allen would be, if that can be imagined, even worse. But that assumed Allen would not self destruct. If they can sell this junk, we are in for a long campaign season.
If Allen doesn’t apologize profusely and do some penance, he is either a sociopathic racist or an idiot (inclusive ‘or’)
say what? Raw Story teaser:
George Allen gives fenceposts and sacks of hammers a bad name.
There he goes again…
Bush: “And that’s why the terrorist surveillance program exists — a program that some in Washington would like to dismantle.”
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..htm?csp=34
No, “some in Washington” want you to go through the FISA Court and obey the law.
It’s hard to believe that Bolton sitting for an hour “interview” with anyone, let alone that nutjob, wouldn’t be of interest to msm. Of course, if it was a dem, they would be all over it. I still can’t believe this is true & keep waiting for someone to say it was a punk…it’s just so bizarre.
I had never heard of that word “macaca” before & this is used by whitey bigots? Earlier we’ve heard Snow & another (can’t remember who) use tarbaby. Nice circles they all run in.
In the seventies, a guy I knew pretty well from Long Island invited me to dinner in Manhattan where I lived. We had a nice dinner and then he asked me if I wanted to go have a drink at his “spa”. It was Plato’s Retreat. Of course, I was very young and knew nothing about it. I made a quick retreat of my own that night and never spoke to him again.
ccmask @ 172
That’s so 70’s!!!
Mary dahlin’, I’m not mocking your nightmares, I’m sharing ‘em. It was the cup of coffee . . .
They served good drinks, though! lol
OfT: Some background on “monkey” as it may relate to George Allen’s “macaca” remark.
Billy Packer
“In 1996, during an on-air broadcast of a game between Georgetown and Villanova, Packer described the Hoyas star guard Allen Iverson as a “tough monkey”. Packer later apologized, insisting he was actually trying to praise Iverson’s relentless play. Neither Iverson nor Georgetown coach John Thompson were offended by the remark. Thompson told USA Today he doesn’t “have to explain to anybody about Billy being a racist because he’s not.”
More on Billy Packer:
“Packer was once again the center of controversy in 2000, when he publicly apologized to two Duke University students for allegedly sexist comments he made before a men’s basketball game in Cameron Indoor Stadium. According to published reports, when the students asked Packer to show his press pass, he responded, “Since when do we let women control who gets into a men’s basketball game? Why don’t you go find a women’s game to let people into?” Packer apologized after the comments were published in Duke University’s student-run newspaper.”
Basketball afficiandos will be familiar with Packer’s frequent references to Adolph “The Baron” Rupp, Pat Riley’s legendary college coach at Kentucky. Rupp was a great student of the game. What Packer continuously refuses to mention, however, is that Rupp was a die hard segregationist, who refused to recruit non-white players at Kentucky, because in his opinion, they weren’t smart enough.
calling Plato’s Retreat a “spa” is like calling Baghdad a “tourist haven” …
new thread: Dog whistle bigotry….
the word “macaca” is probably a nasty conflation of “macaque” (a type of monkey) and “caca” (a word for shit)
I think Pam’s hair and William Shatner’s hair should be forced to mate.
If only George Galloway-Googling didn’t include this.
Sharkbabe @
151
Right back atcha, Sharkbabe
:)
Someday…If we manage to get beyond this era of enforced stupidity…The true story behind these kinked-out pervawhackos masquerading as morally upright conservatives, their supposedly adult decision-making processes suborned to private fetishes and midnight desires, will make for fascinating reading…If there’s anyone left who knows how to read, that is
;>)
John Casper @ 176
And this from Howard Cosell…
“Look at that little monkey run.”
– On Washington Redskins wide receiver Alvin Garrett.
I saw that game on Monday Night Football and knew his career was over as soon as he said it.
Well, THAT didn’t work.
Google for yourself, then,
“George Galloway” “Rula Lenska” lapping milk . . .
I watched the clip and didn’t see anything wrong. Everything she said is true. What’s the problem?
I’m as big a dope as she is, for sure !
The only thing she said that was true is that she needed another drink. She was one low.
I am such a doofus too !
I couldn’t watch more than a minute of that video.
Makes me think of a system of a down song…
psycho
dogstar, are you sirius?
You’re right. They weren’t both Google caches. I saved the web page that wasn’t.
If any woman in my life bore any resemblance to that ….. I’d disown them. What an absolutely disgusting waste of skin.
WHOA!! she is Bat-Shit-CRAZY !!
I am an repeating doofus …
Now, THAT’s truly obscene!
Well I never! That opening number bombed in Bagram! Can someone figure out how to forward the clip to DOJ? They’ll slap her with an infringement action.
Wait. Never mind. It’ll never go forward. (DAMN that state secrets doctrine!)
So you all know, in tryouts Pam induced severe regression in the military staff — they call this audition blowback — but left the detainees as bemused as the fish. The worst of it was that “nostril” lost everything in the translation. (As the Bybee memo made clear in a footnote, it ain’t torture if you have to explain it.)
Life is not kind to girl dropouts from the School of the Americas. After gigs like this it’s a short trip to their version of Sunset Blvd., which I don’t want to begin to explain.
OMG … Ann Coulter’s evil twin!
BAC
lotus @ 92
No, I just got my hair caught in it. I figure it will let go if I just show it Atlas’ Dugs, which I’ve been real good about NOT clicking…
bookwoman @ 116
WOW! George is on fire!
this woman – Atlas whatever – is fucking insane. And obscene.
Mercy.
gotta tell ya…Galloway may be a self-aggrandizing ass, but much if what he says is right-fucking-on.
Didn’t watch the video, though it’s clear she’s an effusive fool (the worst kind). What bothers me, however, is the range of comments on it in YouTube. It’s like paging through some White Supremacist site. Disgusting! Hatred and bigotry (not to mention seemingly flippant calls for genocide) are not progressive values! We should be very careful with whom we make our beds. If George Allen makes an obscure racist remark we, rightly, jump on him. In the same vein, the left ought to have absolutely no tolerance for all this “this is why we must kill the jews/nuke Israel” crap. Hatred is hatred, racism is racism, and we’re no better than the Republicans if we conscience this filth.
What the hell? One minute she’s singing don’t you wish your girlfriend was a freak like me to Nasrallah, then she’s quoting the Talmud. Who the hell is this person? Is this what we’ve come to? Yikes!!