Comments on: Dog Whistle Bigotry Comes Out of the Closet http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/ Firedoglake weblog Tue, 24 Nov 2009 13:21:08 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Yp http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-247011 Yp Wed, 16 Aug 2006 21:45:35 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-247011 <p>this! looks like a mohawk:</p> <p><a href="http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/archives/2006/08/mohawk_not_a_mullet/sr_sidarth_mohawk_photo/">http://www.outsidethebeltway.c.....awk_photo/</a></p> this! looks like a mohawk:

http://www.outsidethebeltway.c…..awk_photo/

]]> By: Jon Swift http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-246197 Jon Swift Wed, 16 Aug 2006 12:04:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-246197 <p><strong>George Allen Only Pretending To Be Stupid </strong></p> <p>Using an apparent racial slur against his opponent’s operative actually shows how smart George Allen really is.</p> George Allen Only Pretending To Be Stupid

Using an apparent racial slur against his opponent’s operative actually shows how smart George Allen really is.

]]> By: Devil’s Advocate http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-245140 Devil’s Advocate Tue, 15 Aug 2006 19:35:05 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-245140 <p><a href="#comment-244073"><em>punaise @ 22 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p><a href="#comment-244059"><em>Rayne @<br /> 9 </em></a></p> <blockquote> <p>Francophones, please confirm for the rest of the FirePups that le mot <i>macaque</i> sounds phonetically like <i>macaca</i> when articulated en francaise.</p> <p>I’d certainly pronounce it that way.</p></blockquote> <p>en francais macaque = “mah - kawk” as spelled (my phonetics)</p></blockquote> <p>Actually, it is pronounced “mah-kak”.</p> <p>As a French speaker who born, and raised in Belgium, I confirm that the term “macaque” is a racial slur used against people of Algerian, Moroccan, or Tunisian origin. It is also used against Sub-Sahara Africans. </p> <p>Other choice slurs include “bougnoule” or “bicot”, the latter applying exclusively to people from the Maghreb. </p> <p>All three words are extremely loaded and are even more insulting that the N… word. </p> <p>Allen knew exactly what he was saying. He picked up that racial slur from his mother, no doubt, since she was a “pied-noir” (French colonists in Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia). No doubt either that he knows what “bougnoule” and “bicot” mean as well. Watch for him using those the next time he sees a darker-than-lily-white person working for his opponent.</p> punaise @ 22

Rayne @
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Francophones, please confirm for the rest of the FirePups that le mot macaque sounds phonetically like macaca when articulated en francaise.

I’d certainly pronounce it that way.

en francais macaque = “mah – kawk” as spelled (my phonetics)

Actually, it is pronounced “mah-kak”.

As a French speaker who born, and raised in Belgium, I confirm that the term “macaque” is a racial slur used against people of Algerian, Moroccan, or Tunisian origin. It is also used against Sub-Sahara Africans.

Other choice slurs include “bougnoule” or “bicot”, the latter applying exclusively to people from the Maghreb.

All three words are extremely loaded and are even more insulting that the N… word.

Allen knew exactly what he was saying. He picked up that racial slur from his mother, no doubt, since she was a “pied-noir” (French colonists in Algeria, Morocco, and Tunisia). No doubt either that he knows what “bougnoule” and “bicot” mean as well. Watch for him using those the next time he sees a darker-than-lily-white person working for his opponent.

]]> By: AvengingAngel http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244934 AvengingAngel Tue, 15 Aug 2006 16:50:17 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244934 <p>For more background on George Allen’s ugly neo-Confederate history, see:<br /> <b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000436.htm">“George Allen’s Flag Desecration.”</a></b></p> <p>For more details on how Allen fits into a larger pattern of Republican nostalgia for the Confederacy, see:<br /> <b><a href="http://www.perrspectives.com/blog/archives/000192.htm">“Confederacy of Dunces.”</a></b></p> For more background on George Allen’s ugly neo-Confederate history, see:
“George Allen’s Flag Desecration.”

For more details on how Allen fits into a larger pattern of Republican nostalgia for the Confederacy, see:
“Confederacy of Dunces.”

]]> By: clb72 http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244761 clb72 Tue, 15 Aug 2006 14:30:04 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244761 <p>Oy mein gawt, George Allen iz a yid?</p> <p>Gevalt. What a shanda.</p> Oy mein gawt, George Allen iz a yid?

Gevalt. What a shanda.

]]> By: Dennis http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244638 Dennis Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:54:24 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244638 <p>Of course, George Allen is a bigot. And he is the one man in Washington D.C. who manages to make George W. Bush look smart. </p> <p>Where in God’s name does the Republican Party find these people?</p> Of course, George Allen is a bigot. And he is the one man in Washington D.C. who manages to make George W. Bush look smart.

Where in God’s name does the Republican Party find these people?

]]> By: ironranger http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244625 ironranger Tue, 15 Aug 2006 11:15:45 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244625 <p>Drunk Allen at the wedding: Someone has got to have pics of him throwing meatballs at the bride & groom. I would love to see those. Did George forget this or does he think that embarrassing stuff like this won’t come out? Maybe it doesn’t concern him since his base probably has no problem with this kind of behavior.</p> Drunk Allen at the wedding: Someone has got to have pics of him throwing meatballs at the bride & groom. I would love to see those. Did George forget this or does he think that embarrassing stuff like this won’t come out? Maybe it doesn’t concern him since his base probably has no problem with this kind of behavior.

]]> By: Outside The Beltway | OTB http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244614 Outside The Beltway | OTB Tue, 15 Aug 2006 10:20:48 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244614 <p><strong>Allen And The “Macaca” Incident (Video)</strong></p> <p>For someone that is typically derided as, er, not that worldly, Sen. George Allen is sure being given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his knowledge of really obscure ethnic slurs. At a recent campaign event, Allen referred to a Webb campaign…</p> Allen And The “Macaca” Incident (Video)

For someone that is typically derided as, er, not that worldly, Sen. George Allen is sure being given the benefit of the doubt when it comes to his knowledge of really obscure ethnic slurs. At a recent campaign event, Allen referred to a Webb campaign…

]]> By: DR http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244606 DR Tue, 15 Aug 2006 09:46:15 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244606 <p>OK We’ve got it. I didn’t know his mother was Tunisian, but then the word makes sense. As a Tunisian Jew, his mother certainly would have spoken French, more precisely Continental French:</p> <p>From: <a href="http://www.languefrancaise.net/glossaire/detail.php?id=22121">http://www.languefrancaise.net.....p?id=22121</a></p> <p>macaque macaque (demi-) ;<br /> insulte (raciste) ; tranger (asiatique?) ; insulte (gnrique) ; qui a une sale tte, laid<br /> Oh ! tu sais, quand on ne connat personne dans un pays, ni la langue des macaques, on ne sort gure de sa tle<br /> frquence : 8 ~ vu : 94 fois.</p> <p>Translation:</p> <p>Macaque:<br /> insult (racist): A foreigner (mainly Asian)<br /> insult (generic): Ugly.<br /> “You know, when you don’t know anyone in a country, nor the language of Macaques, you don’t really get out much.”</p> OK We’ve got it. I didn’t know his mother was Tunisian, but then the word makes sense. As a Tunisian Jew, his mother certainly would have spoken French, more precisely Continental French:

From: http://www.languefrancaise.net…..p?id=22121

macaque macaque (demi-) ;
insulte (raciste) ; tranger (asiatique?) ; insulte (gnrique) ; qui a une sale tte, laid
Oh ! tu sais, quand on ne connat personne dans un pays, ni la langue des macaques, on ne sort gure de sa tle
frquence : 8 ~ vu : 94 fois.

Translation:

Macaque:
insult (racist): A foreigner (mainly Asian)
insult (generic): Ugly.
“You know, when you don’t know anyone in a country, nor the language of Macaques, you don’t really get out much.”

]]> By: Mike In New Zealand http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244568 Mike In New Zealand Tue, 15 Aug 2006 07:08:14 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/14/dog-whistle-bigotry-comes-out-of-the-closet/#comment-244568 <p>Back to the subject matter of this post, if I may…the transition from ‘macaca’, the Tunisian word for a monkey of N Africa, into the spurious ‘mohawk’ [puh-leese] happened only because Webb’s man, Sidharth, had swarthy skin, possibly like the people Allen’s own Tunisian mum hired as maids in his So. Cal. house when he was young. So Allen nailed his bigotry to the flag by calling Sidhartha ‘macaca’ (that <em>dark, subhuman </em> monkey). Now that Allen’s shit has hit the national fan, his spin maker has to to stretch that racist insult into a limpid, common expression. But how? Think ‘dark skin’, then ‘indian’, then since Sidharth was born in the USA, think ‘native indian’. Oooohhh! Mohawk! a native him “macaca”. Looks like a monkey, except for that haircut.<br /> Jai Sidharthaji. Good on ya, mate. Mike from New Ziland.</p> Back to the subject matter of this post, if I may…the transition from ‘macaca’, the Tunisian word for a monkey of N Africa, into the spurious ‘mohawk’ [puh-leese] happened only because Webb’s man, Sidharth, had swarthy skin, possibly like the people Allen’s own Tunisian mum hired as maids in his So. Cal. house when he was young. So Allen nailed his bigotry to the flag by calling Sidhartha ‘macaca’ (that dark, subhuman monkey). Now that Allen’s shit has hit the national fan, his spin maker has to to stretch that racist insult into a limpid, common expression. But how? Think ‘dark skin’, then ‘indian’, then since Sidharth was born in the USA, think ‘native indian’. Oooohhh! Mohawk! a native him “macaca”. Looks like a monkey, except for that haircut.
Jai Sidharthaji. Good on ya, mate. Mike from New Ziland.

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