Login HereGeorge Allen's reference to one of Webb's campaign filmers certainly deserves a better explanation than the one offered. Listen to the YouTube above -- does it sound like Allen is saying "mohawk?" Sounds a lot more like macaque -- and as Atrios notes, that is a racial slur.
orangejumpsuit in the comments:
I have no clue as to its reliability, but I googled on “macaca (plus) tunisia” and pulled up an entry that referred to the Macaque monkey that is indigenous to Tunisia and other places. The wiki entry refers to the fact that Allen’s mother is of Jewish heritage and is from Tunisia.
August 14th, 2006 at 4:04 pm
Earl, what exactly did Allen want to infer by calling the Webb tracker “Macaca”?
If you don’t know it, macaca is a derogatory and very prejudiced term used in Tunisia in reference to blacks and dark-skinned people.
Guess what? George Allen’s mother is Tunisian so I can bet you, he knew exactly what he meant when he called the guy “macaca”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Felix_Allen
Disgusting.
—furrycat
I'm sure Michelle Malkin, on full bigot-watch, has her outrage-ometer pinning. Does this guy look like he's wearing a Mohawk to you?
Me either.
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Uh, guess we’re here alone, Mary. How ya doin’?
Me first?
Webb!
I kind of wish I could head back to Richmond for a weekend and knock on doors for Webb.
GINTER PARK FOR WEBB!!
Oh, didn’t see you two. Hello.
Wow! It just gets worse and worse.
I wasn’t sure how big an issue this was, but if his mother is Tunisian then he knew.
I hope the Left will jump on this and pump it ad finitum like the right does for any little error.
But I don’t think it is little, given this new piece of info. How offensive!
Looks like these fellas that make a living with their lips would be able to use them better than this. It’s not like he didn’t know he was being filmed, since the guy he was calling names was holding the camera. Is stupid racist a redundancy?
Head to the Frameshop, gang, Feldman has this covered.
Francophones, please confirm for the rest of the FirePups that le mot macaque sounds phonetically like macaca when articulated en francaise.
I’d certainly pronounce it that way.
It should be noted that S.R. Sidarth’s haircut looks a lot like George Felix Allen Junior’s.
Heyya Scarecrow.
Here’s a theme song for Webb.
Stevie Wonder - You Haven’t Done Nothing. Play it with clips of Delay, Abramoff, Bin Laden at Large, headlines showing attempts to cut explosive detection equipment funding, the loss of VA data, pictures of the national debt tote board, etc.
“Stevie Wonder You Haven’t Done Nothin’ lyrics“
We are amazed but not amused
By all the things you say that you’ll do
Though much concerned but not involved
With decisions that are made by you
But we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
“You haven’t done nothing”!
It’s not too cool to be ridiculed
But you brought this upon yourself
The world is tired of pacifiers
We want the truth and nothing else
And we are sick and tired of hearing your song
Telling how you are gonna change right from wrong
‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
“You haven’t done nothing”!
[chorus stuff]
We would not care to wake up to the nightmare
That’s becoming real life
But when mislead who knows a person’s mind
Can turn as cold as ice un hum
Why do you keep on making us hear your song
Telling us how you are changing right from wrong
‘Cause if you really want to hear our views
“You haven’t done nothing”!
Yeah
Jane: Thanks for the attribution! I am flattered.
Well Jane, EVENTUALLY they ALL get caught…..Anyone who didn’t know Allen wasn’t a bigot and troll is blind. He is disgusting and can’t string 2 words together to make a coherant sentence.
Being a northerner, I don’t know how this is going to play in VA. From where I sit it is dispicable. Will the bigot party in VA be enough to get him elected?
Anyone out there who knows?
EPU’ed — I bet “macaca” is a nasty conflation of “macaque” (a type of monkey) and “caca” (a word for shit) — a thoroughly racist neologism …
OT: but wow! Daily Show Segment Apologies if it’s been discussed.
SENATOR WEBB!
SENATOR LAMONT!
SENATOR TESTER!
Sounds like George Allen’s “Dean Scream” moment is about to erupt onto the world stage.
/em opens a bag of chips
The netroots have to hit this thing hard. Very, very rarely will a United States Senator make a recorded statement like this (”macaca”) that so very strongly implies his racist thoughts while saying it. There really is no explanation other than bigotry. What else could he have been thinking other than: “monkey,” North African French Colonialist for “N****r,” or “poo skinned”? Simply put, Not fit to be Senator. Our job is to let Virginia voters know about it; their duty is to vote.
He’s not wearing a mohawk, but he sure is handsome. But 20? Ye gods. Too young.
Franco @ 13
That’s disgusting. You used a double negative. Word!
Rayne @
9
en francais macaque = “mah - kawk” as spelled (my phonetics)
hi ya OFG — heard you were on the road again, but there was some mixup?
Jane — as someone else noted, things like this are planned. This kid had been following the campaign and they knew him.
They may even want the publicity, which shows how sick it is.
What Virginia needs is what Ronald Reagan used to call “a bunch of outside agitators.” That’s who he blamed for the Berkeley Free Speech Movement, and when he cracked down on the UC President later, every Republican (and a few Dems too) in California cheered. I’d say Va is about where California was back then.
Jane, thanks for linking to this.
My guess is that Charlie Cook will be moving Allen from “likely Republican” to “toss up” pretty soon….
I wonder if George Felix Allen’s rabid followers know his mother was not only Jewish but French !
EPU’d, John Casper says:
August 14th, 2006 at 6:01 pm *
OfT: Some background on “monkey” as it may relate to George Allen’s “macaca” remark.
Billy Packer
“In 1996, during an on-air broadcast of a game between Georgetown and Villanova, Packer described the Hoyas star guard Allen Iverson as a “tough monkey.” Packer later apologized, insisting he was actually trying to praise Iverson’s relentless play….
More on Billy Packer:
“Packer was once again the center of controversy in 2000, when he publicly apologized to two Duke University students for allegedly sexist comments he made before a men’s basketball game in Cameron Indoor Stadium. According to published reports, when the students asked Packer to show his press pass, he responded, “Since when do we let women control who gets into a men’s basketball game? Why don’t you go find a women’s game to let people into?” Packer apologized after the comments were published in Duke University’s student-run newspaper.”
Basketball afficiandos will be familiar with Packer’s frequent references to Adolph “The Baron” Rupp, Pat Riley’s (Yes, former Laker, now Miami Heat coach) legendary college coach at Kentucky. Packer, however, continuously refuses to mention that Rupp was a die hard advocate of segregation, who refused to recruit non-white players to the University of Kentucky, because in his opinion, they weren’t smart enough.
This Felix Allen incident reminds me in a way of when Richard Nixon’s Secretary of Agriculture, Earl Butz, told a racist joke to a reporter he was sitting next to on a plane, not realizing how he would look when the reporter printed it. That’s the way they think, that’s the way they talk among themselves, and sometimes they just forget that not everyone will think it’s funny.
Long have the rumors of Allen’s racism (and drinking issues) been floating around. Sometimes, it takes an event like this to get people to see that trashing him is not disloyal, rather it is the only way to stop a nut. Certainly, as home-town quarterback, he must have bullied some folks who would like a crack at him now? Are there any firepups in ol’ Virginie up to the challenge?
He had to know what it meant. It appears to be an obscure word, and you just don’t randomly spit a obscure word out in conversation.
Also, in the context of what he was doing, it’s clear to me he meant it an insult.
For a change of pace, LJ has some nice snark up about the Israel-Lebanon war:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/m....._degr.html
Junior and 0-lmert don’t come off so well.
Unfortunately, “our” “leaders” prolly won’t learn anything from it. Again.
Mary for now — Back when I lived in Richmond, Ginter Park folks were fairly liberal, and it was a lovely place. Twenty-five years later, I am wondering how Allen’s hideous remarks will fly there (the rest of the area, with the exception of VCU, was pretty much in line with Allen, unfortunately). We used to joke (?) that Richmond would be a lovely place (it really is) if 90% of the white population could just be deposited in the North Atlantic and then you could start over.
I was naive then, though — and not fully aware of just how racist the “integrated” North really was.
God, I hope things are different down there now.
Moo-caca is an old indian word for “don’t step in it”.
John Casper @ 27
Also EPU’d ; )
And this from Howard Cosell…
“Look at that little monkey run.”
– On Washington Redskins wide receiver Alvin Garrett.
I saw that game on Monday Night Football and knew his career was over as soon as he said it.
TRex- Too young? Oh, I may know what you mean, but maybe I don’t. But, in my various touchdowns at 3 Lamont HQs, THEY WERE ALL YOUNG! The kids were driving the Lamont machine, and I love them for it. And, same to those engaged in other campaigns. I celebrate this. I’ve seen too many rich college brats who don’t know up from down in my venue. To see those who aren’t, who really know what’s up is such a breath of fresh air.
I guess George Felix slips back into his mother tongue when he’s plastered. His audience would not have understood the word — it would be unAmerican to speak French — but they would certainly have understood “Welcome to America.” Do white Virginia Republicans really think all brown people are recent immigrants? And do they know about George Felix’s Tunisian connection?
This thought just occured to me: If Mr. Sidarth has been trailing Allen with a camera for some time, then I will bet dollars to doughnuts that Allen has backgrounded the young man and actually knew his name, even though he said, “whatever his name is.”
Just speculating.
OT — Give’em Hell Harry’s site has a letter to send to Cheney complaining about his Ned comments and politicizing terror. Not sure this link will work:
http://www.giveemhellharry.com.....liticizing
republicans appeal to frightened white folks
in saying that word, allen is trying to identify with frightened white folks despite his own cosmopolitan heritage
frightened white folks of mixed heritage [we all come out of africa] are always trying to make themselves seem lily white by insulting those whose skin is just dark enough to make frightened white folks nervous lest their own appearance attract notice
americans’ obsession with skin color & with other signs of difference is extreme & is actually most vicious where the signs of difference seem slightest
it has something to do with our highly visual culture, with our being [i think] the first country founded on the written word
Valley Girl, our TRex is an elitist insurgent raptor. He has very discerning tastes :)
Ilson@26 good point a North African Jew
With a Jewish mother; Allen is Jewish and he got that African bit going also. That is really going to be a big hit with the South Virginia Jesus Crackers.( If this post is out of bounds, mod please remove)
Jane, for me there’s a blank where the video should be.
John Casper - they are still proud of Rupp in KY (Rupp Arena), although they are just as obsessed by basketball (it’s not just a Hoosier thing) and would never let a little thing like racial prejudice stand in the way of a winning team.
I was in Lexington when the Louisville reporter broke stories on the bribes and sent the UK team into a trouble tailspin. You couldn’t drive anywhere without seeing a bumpersticker wanting the death penalty for the reporter.
On a brighter note - we are making Executive Immunity law here in KY. Apparently, Fletcher can’t be tried while he’s in office. OTOH, the indictments don’t have to be dismissed and he CAN be tried once he’s out of office.
Using the top Exec Office to break the law and pardon you pals - it must be the newest Republican Fraternity version of hazing.
I could dismiss the “Welcome to America” remark as a proximation to our rying to welcome wingnuts to the “reality based community.”
I could dismiss it if I were feeling charitable. I am not. The charges stand. Two counts of racism for the wingnut.
Even if he did say “mohawk” instead of “macaque,” it’s just as bad. You know: “Mohawk” and “Indian?”
I grew up in Richmond and live in the Northern Virginia area. Virginia is much, much more progressive today than its 1970’s reputation, even in the rural areas (albeit certainly not “liberal”). We may pride ourselves on our southern heritage, but most despise bigots as much as the next person. Don’t for a second think that informed Virginians won’t vote Allen out based on this.
Har har har. Jess’ an ol’ boy havin’ fun. The sound quality was excelllent, Allen said it twice very clearly. The word he said was MACACA (twice, or maybe three times), it wasn’t Mohawk (it warn’t that word twice, or maybe three times). I think they knew what it meant, and think they arrogantly or stupidly think they can weasle out of it with total bogus loser assiine, truly moronic and transparently 1000% obvious from-the-word-go false story. Allen sure didn’t say Mohwak (twice or maybe three times). Maybe the next bogus lie… er, line will be that the Webb guy was being provocative -you know, the only guy there who didn’t look like a native Virginian. Fact that he was… well, a native Virginian, it’s done now and we should all just get over it. Any way, the Webb guy’s a Democrat, so not a real US type person, let alone real Virginian. Want to bet that is the next line if the ‘all in fun, oopsie boogoo, Allen sure is a card so get over it’ approach don’t work?
I am looking forward to Webb’s response. I imagine it will become clear that Webb is no effete Hollywood milquetoast who doesn’t know Virginian.
phonetically, it is makaka ma ka ka however you spell it, he seems to have learned the slur early on as he does say it identically both times
“Macaca”. A thoroughly dislikable term of degradation in the vein of Goy and Kike. Used by those possessed of narrow intelligence.
Sorry Oilfieldguy…I will NOT never ever do it never ever not again!
Hmmmmmm.
Hello Valley Girl!! :~)
I saw the clip on C&L. I agree that it is obvious from the clip that he was insulting this young man.
I agree he either planned it or was drunk.
Or 3rd option…this word from his childhood just came out as it always did in conversation. Didn’t give it another thought because he was socialized to believe that this is ok. Really horrid in any scenario. Down with Allen!
BTW there are some really cool people out there from India FWIW. Also the spicy food is the bomb. My favorite Indian restaurant in NO is gone after the storm. That is one thing I really miss. Boo hoo.
to some crackers in Virginia, the fact that George Felix Allen’s mother was from Tunisia meant she piloted planes into the Trade Center … (assuming crackers knew where the hell Tunisia was)
if not posted yet, here is link to youtube version via Dailykos:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo.....192310/391
orangejumpsuit @ 38
Maybe. I’m sure his staff knows, but Allen has a reputation for being dumb as a post, so he may well have never listened when they told him.
*ilson — that Bernie linky has closed access.
LindyH @ 42
Me too.
Mary4N
I still don’t get the executive pardon thing in Kentucky — can the previously indicted be re-indicted? Or are they just immune while the Gov. remains?
Also, I am glad a Governor cannot pardon him/herself. That is simply too Soviet.
actually George Felix Allen thought he was being clever and using an obscure childhood racist phrase that nobody would ever pick up on in that crowd …
BarbaraB @ 58
for George Allen there’s a blank spot between his ears.
DC — I hoppe so! It was the only part of my Southern experience that I disliked and, actually, I miss the rest of it, a lot. Still have some very good friends, still do a LOT of Southern cooking, and still miss the rhododendrons, azaleas, Burford hollies, camellias, etc. that just WILL not grow here — and just the feel of the countryside. Oh, and did I mention manners? I am glad you are telling me this, because there was some pretty overt racism back then, right down to the newspaper editorials.
*ilson46201 @ 60
yeah, why didn’t he just throw in a gratuitous “Dred Scott” reference?
dannyboy- we may have been there at about the same time. Mid eighties for me. I loved Ginter Park. I have to say, even as redneck as my background in IN and KY has been, I never heard the “N” word used by people who seemed like they were going to be sweet little old folks until I moved to Richmond.
Lieberman attacks Bernie Sanders
Franco @ 52
An actual comment directed at me after delivering a 16′ wide 125,000 lb gas compressor into the hills of W. Virginia.
“Ain’t nobody never hauled nuthin’ up here ‘at big afore.”
That, my friends, is a QUADRUPLE negative. He was happy cause he made twenny dollars off’n my fittin’ that compressor up there.
God I love them people.
DC — hope you’re right. The Bushies have spent the last five years training their supporters to think badly of all kinds of folks, and lumping them together under one convenient image. It’s not about Virginia; it’s everywhere.
If Allen wanted to be friendly-like, he could have asked the young man’s name, and used that. He was trying to intimidate the Webb guy, and trying to either ridicule him, paint Webb as somehow or unAmerican or unVirginian, or making a racist appeal to audience. Or all three. Allen may be too thoughtless or dense to understand or explain what he was really doing. Or maybe not.
Suppose the Webb campaing worker was a native white Virginian and Allen had called him ‘hill-billy’, ‘red-neck’ or ‘grit’… or ‘white trach’? I think macaca is at least as offensive as any of those terms. I just wonder… or I just wonder of Allen might be somehow smart enough not to do that.
OT for those cheering George Galloway last thread.
Yes!
But.
See my EPU’d 184 before you get too excited about him.
well, Senator Allen did say we needed more Supreme Court Justices like Roger Taney …
(not really)
OT…did you see this at myleftnutmeg….Rove sent the Dan Senor trolls as ground troops for RG Joe….PATHETIC
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh.....aryId=2815
I watched the video at Kos. George Felix “Frenchie” Allen called the guy from Webb’s campaign “makaka.” However you want to spell it. No question about it. I don’t know what was in his mind, but he said “makaka.” More than once. It is particularly clear the second time. Not “Mohawk.” The guy doesn’t even have a Mohawk. It could not be more clear. I think his campaign came up with the “Mohawk” story to ridicule anyone foolish enough to believe it.
*ilson46201 @
59
No, he knew he was being taped. That is what confused me, i.e., he could not deny the comment or claim it was misheard as it was taped.
I am thinking he did not consider the offense, i.e., raised that way. I have known people like that, but they don’t get very far in politics.
*ilson46201 @ 65
Funny part of that is gerstein saying that Joe is a Democrat, so his sliming of Lamont isn’t partisan. Hmmmm. didn’t get the memo that the Democratic voters of Ct. voted your boy’s butt out!?!?!!?
This is blatant bigotry. He pointed right at Sidarth and insulted him twice. It came easily to Allen, who was laughing as he said it. And he had that typical GOP condescension that brown-skinned people are stupid like children. One gets the impression Allen assumed Sidarth didn’t know he was being insulted. That was a bad assumption.
I am reminded of Biden’s recent bigotry. Is the white male ruling class feeling threatened?
Mary4N — We left in ‘84 but, oh, it was nice,(do you remember Shockhoe Slip, The Tobacco Company, and Cary Street, and Libbie Ave …) EXCEPT… The first time I opened the Richmond News Leader (which, btw, censored the AP and UPI reports about Nixon and Watergate…), the lead editorial called a candidate for City Manager (choke) a “booger-lover”. I lost it, on the spot — especially since we had just come from Chapel Hill (known at the time as “Little Moscow”). Most of North Carolina, btw, at least then, seemed to be trying to come to grips with its racist heritage. Of course, now we live in the part of Pennsylvania between Pittsburgh and Philiadelphia affectionately known as Mississippi… sigh
*ilson46201 @ 15
Probably not. Macaco is the Portuguese word from which the French and English macaque derives–close enough that I doubt a roundabout through the Spanish word for “shit” is required. I can’t determine whether there is an Arabic or Berber word macaca that might come from the same root, but it’s possible.
What happened here is that Allen called a dark-skinned guy a monkey. Even without the Tunisian connection, that’s a racial slur, and he can’t whinge his way around it.
imman @57
That one. It’s probably going to really light a fire under him on his re-election bid. *g* Even McConnell, who has no problem with the PResident of the United States directing a little lawbreaking, is looking to maybe endorse someone other than Fletcher.
I’ll have to look at the case (and ScottyC may appeal for that matter) but I think that we don’t actually “know” that - he just hasn’t tried it. If the re-election thing goes badly and an AG is still doing that sharkgrin over the indictments, then he may give it a whirl. Since we’re speaking of oldline KY families, Ben Chandler is getting the last laugh on this one.
Fletcher is sweating. He may hatch a plot to invade Indiana if the IRan thing goes well for W.
There’s always some border dispute going on between IN and KY.
Fletcher v. Daniels — hard to pick which side to root against.
do the macacarena
Liz Dupont-Diehl, Gerstein’s counterpart in the Lamont campaign, reacted today by saying that, “the 140,000 people who voted for Ned Lamont would be very surprised to hear they are communists.”
http://www.journalinquirer.com.....&rfi=6
Good answer. LOL
Mary — there will be lots of conflicting loyalties — a Hoosier is just a Kentuckian whose car ran out of gas on the way to Chicago …
neurophius @ 72
Probably the same people who thought the name Barney Frank sounded just like Barney Fag.
But you know, focusing on the word and its meaning just gives Allen a chance to weasel out of this thing. He showed who he was when he said “Welcome to America”. That’s uncontrovertible ignorance and racism.
dannyboy- I got there right before you were leaving. I worked in the James Center and TobCo had the best happy hours (except I don’t do oysters). That winter, the James Center did a herd of metal deer, with lights, for xmas, and they all kept falling over. That, or the people coming back from happy hour at the Tob Co were enticed by the shiney lights to frolic with the deer. ;)
Oh yeah, it was f**king Dick Armey with that Barney Frank thing.
www.nndb.com/people/211/000024139/ - 6k
Is there anyone here now from VA who could tell us whether the VA media has picked this story up, and if so, how it is playing?
*ilson46201 @ 79
Snort.
So, Hagel is saying the same thing as Lamont, and Mark Warner wants a new Iraq resolution. Are they al-Qaeda Republicans? I want some one to ask the GOP slander brigade that question.
Those two al-Qaeda Republicans have said, asserted, even impertinently given arguments, reasons, have had the nerve to cite facts to the effect that we should not ’stay the course’, er ‘adjust and adapt’, er, do whatever the War Leader in A Time of War says we should do no questions asked.
GW is just a slightly smarter George Allen with a little more political demagogue finishing school.
Jenny from the Blog @ 83
Armey was such a dick !
dana posts sometimes and is from VA. I bet Kos has something up - several Webb supporters have had diaries there.
http://GoDickArmy.com
LisaDawn lives in MD. When she checks in, be sure to ask her if she gets any of the the local No. VA media and ask if they are picking up on it.
*ilson46201 @ 91
hee hee!
Mary4N at 77 — Thanks. My extensive experience with executive clemency pardon was in Texas where there was a very complicated procedure — only the Board of Pardons and Paroles had the statutory authority to pardon any one or commute their sentence. The Gov.’s only authority was to grant 30 day repreives. Of course, the Board was appointed by the Governor….
This process came out of the infamous “pardons for cash” scandal of the Pa and Ma Ferguson era (19-teens). There were term limits and at different points Pa’s (James) wife (Ma Ferguson) was elected as a place keeper for a term or two. She famously said (apocryphyl-ly), “If the King’s English was good enough for Jesus, it’s good enough for me!”
Cozumel @ 80
Looks like the JL folks are trying to bait Lamont, to get him into a mud fight. That’s pretty nasty stuff, all of it dishonest, coming from Gerstein. And the Waterford paper is just plain red baiting. Which century are they in?
See this is why it’s more important to slam him for the “America” crack.
Okay, I guess I’ve said it about five times in the last couple of threads so I’ll just shut my mouf. :) But I really don’t want him to get away with this!
Oh fun, we get to see wingnut trackback comments. It’s a free window into the vapid minds of the republican zombie brigades.
I am such a doofus !
Bah!…A tempest in a teakettle, a piffle in a portmanteau, a cheroot in a chamberpot…When we all know some people say that the real issue is the ‘fascinating Ned Lamont blackface scandal’, as scurrilious an example of racist injustice as was ever was! Why it’s just…just…just…slanderific!…And I’m not given to hyperbole, or nothin’.
…Gee willikers kids, stay on message
;>)
WEBB!! We are gonna kick Allen’s butt from here to next November. What a loser.
Webb for ALL Virginians, not just the white ones.
off to watch Weed with daughter but …
on the topic of racism:
http://www.oliverwillis.com/20....._stan.html
Weekly Standard has Al Sharpton as a chauffeur … seems like racism is breaking out all over
I am repeating from a previous thead:
And, BTW, I hope FDL will go after Gerstein- comment that is older, but couldn’t ref. before what with the previous slowness…
http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....ent-240841
Gentleman Jim says: August 12th, 2006 at 5:44 pm *
Happy to see that watertiger got her 1,000,000 hits on her birthday. Yay for the good guys!
egregious @ 100
It is an energizer for sure — may just make some folks angry enough to put some energy into the Webb campaign. Hmmm…
Richmond TimesDispatch has nada, kinda like the contents of the troll’s cranium at #96.
P-U at 96!
Allen is just stirring up his base.
Allen is the kind of mindless drone Republicans love to anoint
kingpresident.That way, they can stand in front of the teleprompter and parrot their handlers’ bullshit, without a trace of reflection creasing their brow.
al-Scooter @ 103
Good of him to sign his post, though
;>)
Allen is just stupid. His [current] wife personally told me he needs a lot of help.
Let’s help him find a nice retirement position when he LOSES in November.
WEBB!!
Whatever happened to the attaboys for not feeding? Do y’all need an enforcer reminder?
Hello Darkblack!
“Cheroot in a chamberpot”
Most excellent!
One of the ugly effects of the right wing take over, is the crypto and overt permission by their politicians to relax the previous restriction of racist speech in public. Allen is the latest example.
I remember when the Dems were the party of the racists; now it’s not all Republicans are racists but most racists are Republicans.
Now if all these Republicans put as much effort into protecting us from terrorists as they do trolling liberal blogs, think how much better off the world would be!
VG: “Sorry.”
{{Blushes as he is caught with troll-feed on his fingertips}}
OT Oh, sorry to be so slow in saying- hugs to imm, despite the feeding. Aug 14 date? Resonates. You doin’ okay?