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TeddySanFran got a letter from NARAL that I thought was worth sharing:
Dear (TeddySanFran),Thank you for contacting us about the Senate race in Connecticut.
As you know, NARAL Pro-Choice America has endorsed Sen. Lieberman in that race. As a nonpartisan organization, we support pro-choice elected officials, regardless of party affiliation. Therefore, our endorsement stands, regardless of Sen. Lieberman's party registration. We responded similarly when pro-choice Sen. Jim Jeffords left the Republican Party to become an Independent.
We recognize that some of our members are avid party activists as well as pro-choice stalwarts, and understand that not everyone will agree with each of our endorsement decisions. However, we hope you will continue to stand with us. Our only chance of defending a woman's right to choose is by focusing our energies on our real opponents: George Bush and his anti-choice congressional allies.
Thank you again for getting in touch. Please feel free to do so at any time with additional questions or comments.
Well, I had questions and comments, so I gave them a call at (202)530-4179, which is the number that Elizabeth Shipp, political director of NARAL, gave to Teddy in her note.
And I was told, yes indeed, they are continuing to endorse Joe Lieberman, loser of the Democratic primary. When I asked why, the fellow with whom I was speaking didn't really have an answer, and didn't feel comfortable talking with me further about that particular question. When I asked if they had spoken as yet with Ned Lamont's campaign to ascertain whether a switch in endorsement might be the better move, considering Ned kicked Joe's butt in the primary and all, I was told that he didn't know the answer to that question. When I asked if they were getting a few phone calls on this latest contact on the CT Senate race, he told me that they were.
You, too, can contact NARAL if you would like, and ask why it is that they continue to endorse Joe Lieberman, whether they plan on ever contacting the Lamont campaign to even speak with a fully pro-choice candidate, instead of a pseudo-pro-choice-but-voting-for-Alito-cloture-short-ride-kinda-guy like Lieberman, and just what they are thinking with this myopic decision-making in general. Here is their contact information: Main Number: 202.973.3000; Main Fax: 202.973.3096; Shipp's Number: (202)530-4179.
I think they are interested in hearing lots of opinions on this -- clearly, they just aren't interested in actually taking them into consideration. Hmmm...kind of like Joe Lieberman was interested in participating in the CT Democratic primary, he just didn't care what the voters thought of him since he's decided to completely disregard the primary results and keep on whining.
And according to Tom Curry on MSNBC today, the Republican neocon money base is going to make certain that Lieberman is well-funded for all that whining. Tim Tagaris has the Lamont campaign response to GOP money for CFL. Chris Bowers and Matt Stoller have more on the Lieberman support base. (Oh, and according to Matt, the Beltway Bubble folks think that progressive bloggers are scary. News flash: serial killers are scary. Progressive bloggers are your constituents. Learn the difference.)
Crooks and Liars has great video up of Ned Lamont's appearance on Face the Nation yesterday. If you missed the interview, watch this -- Ned was great. But I'm not quite sure what to make of this article on Hadassah Lieberman, and her odd need to order Joe around in front of voters. (If Mr. ReddHedd tried to do something like that to me in public, we'd have some swift and cranky words about not treating me like some sort of imbecile -- whether it was in public or not.)
Oh, and knock me over with a feather -- Digby agrees with Joe Klein. (No, I'm not kidding.)
PS -- Do you know if your Senator supports Ned Lamont? If you have Democratic Senators and they haven't taken a public position as yet, isn't it time they did? Bob Geiger has provided a handy fill-in-the-blank press release for wavering Senators on vacation. Call yours now and tell them to support Ned -- publicly! And since it is Congressional recess time, and lots of them are home campaigning at county fairs and senior centers and the like -- why not call a local office, get scheduling information and ask them in person. I'm sure they'd love to hear directly from a constituent.
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Spock!
I thought I smelled fresh thread, and lo, here it is!
great posters - saw that on slashdot this weekend.
i posted this at gilliard, but the time for writing editorials about lieberman dropping out is OVER.
there MUST be democratic leadership action on his departure from the race - OR, force him to become a public republican and stop with the “independent democrat” bullshit.
it really is time for baseball bats and blow torches of the political persuasion variety.
lamont is already losing ground through a combination of lack-of-response and lack-of-attack. his endearing aw-shucks-isms will not cut it in the next two months. knife to a gunfight and all that.
someone’s got to start swinging that bat.
Well, I guess NARAL doesn’t need my good cash money, either.
There are lots of local, real pro-choice groups out there.
OT and EPU’d
Two Fox News journalists kidnapped in Gaza:
http://today.reuters.com/news/.....newsOne-11
Reuters and Raw story covering it so far.
ReddHedd front-page loooooooooove!
(Oh, and according to Matt, the Beltway Bubble folks think that progressive bloggers are scary. News flash: serial killers are scary. Progressive bloggers are your constituents. Learn the difference.)
Christy, if you would like to ask *ilson to put that in the biggest font we got, it wouldn’t hurt my feelings one little bit!
Don’t you know all the time and money that went into grooming Lieberman? They don’t want to just throw it all away and start over. At least not until they have to.
What’s the chance that calls will influence the NARAL leadership?
What other organizations which typically back a Democratic Party candidate still backing Lieberman.
OT - re the references to the current Israeli politician named Lieberman (or Liberman). He isn’t related to Joe. Avigdor Liberman is an emigre to Israel from Moldova. He’s perhaps the most powerful spokesperson in Israeli politics for emigres there from the former USSR. Olmert’s eclipse will be Liberman’s gain. You’ll be seeing his name a lot, as he’s a prime candidate for a cabinet post based on many coalition scenarios after the fall of the Olmert government, which will probably happen by the end of the month.
Digby agrees with Joe Klein. (No, I’m not kidding.)
I believe quantum mechanics implies that this would happen sooner or later. I just expected the universe to be little older when it happened.
Bustednuckles. @
6
Let’s remember how much a bunch of dickweeds the rightwing blogoshpere was to Jill Carroll when she was captured and let’s not let any of their horrible tactics bleed in to this Fox story.
To be sure it is probably some local cameramen and not John Gibson or Charles Krauthammer who are in trouble.
-GSD
For a little comedy relief, let’s go back in time and revist the Bush/Coulter Republican poster girl for the ”stay the course” movement in Iraq.
I give you Congresswoman Jean Schmidt(R-Broom Over PA)
http://www.thinkprogress.org/2.....idt-shame/
the fall of the Olmert government, which will probably happen by the end of the month
Only ONE more-deservingly-of-that-fate head of government I can think of.
No. Wait. Mugabe also.
it sounds like NARAL has been “purchased” by one of the pro life groups.
like the FDA, the FCC, the CIA, the FBI, the DEA have been bought by outside influences.
what a country. what’s left of it
OT - Salon has an interview with Mike Tidwell, head of the non-partisan U.S. Climate Emergency Council. He wrote a book in 2003 predicting Katrina, and has a new one out warning, a la An Inconvenient Truth, that Miami, New York, etc. are next. Good interview, worth the day pass if you’re not a member.
The U.S. needs to encourage Israel to the negotiating table with the Palestinians and to stop bringing the world to the brink of world war. America does this with a meaningful threat to cut Israel off the U.S. taxpayer money trough. And… no more American made weapons either.
GSD @ # 13,
I’ll second that motion.
OT, but important to note: MSNBC Imus show this morning was 3 hours of support for Leiberman and puzzlement over why he should not be allowed to participate in November election, to give Conn voters a “real coice”. Keeping Lamont in the lead is going to take everything we’ve all got from here on out - Repubs not going to back down, nor are those who’ve donated big to Leiberman in the past going to let their money go down the drain.
Let’s not get tired - the fight is just entering a new phase.
I was reading the link to the article on Joe Lieberman’s most trusted advisor (Hadassah). I found this quote from her especially interesting:
“I just tell him: the best thing you have going for you is you,” Mrs. Lieberman said in a telephone interview on Friday. “What you see with Joe is what you get. And if some people don’t like it, that’s their problem. Being a leader doesn’t mean you take polls every time to tell you what to believe.”
Last I checked, he represented me. I don’t need someone representing himself. And I don’t need him taking polls. And I don’t need a father figure doing “what’s best” for me; I have one and he was a much stronger person than Holy Roman Joe.
I need a Senator to listen to his constituents and to reflect their interests. Clearly Hadassah and Joe don’t get it. I wasn’t aware I voted for Hadassah 6 years ago. Now I’m smarter.
I guess it’s “arrogance by injection”.
Marc
I am dumbfounded by the intransigence of NARAL. It’s unbelievable that they’d continue to support Lieberman. They believe undermining the Democratic Party in the federal government is the best course of action for preserving rights?
It’s clear NARAL is no longer acting as anything more than a lobbyist organization for protecting incumbents. Reproductive rights are just words on their sign to provide a unique name amongst the other lobbyists.
ET,
I didn’t mean to sound scoldy but yesterday there was a poster that was pushing the “kill ‘em all” memes against the rightwing and I ain’t having none of that fascist stuff.
This will also set us apart from the rightwing blogo-homicidal advocates, not that the media will credit us for that.
-GSD
can’t find any endorsement for Liebushman at Human Rights Campaign
https://www.hrc.org/candidateFundraising/index.cfm?fuseaction=candidateList&cfid=17234458&cftoken=74424891
can’t find any specific endorsements at the Planned Parenthood Pac site - anyone else looked in to it?
same with Natural Resources Defense Council
Shez, Kurt, *ilson — did you make it upstairs here?
Just found info that cinches for me a one-to-one relationship between VFF and Repugs, but I can’t share it due to terms of use. I’ve sent a note to a fellow researcher to see if there is anything we can do short-term about this.
In the meantime, may I suggest joining ePluribus Media?
Lamont=wheat
NARAL=chaff
Christie/Redd,
Do you have any idea what PPFA (national Planned Parenthood) has done/is doing?
I increased my donation to my local PP, and wrote a letter to Cecile Richardson at PPFA expressing my anger and disappointment with them earlier.
Keep up the good work!
“Joey, drink your water.”
“Joey, eat your sandwich.”
First, the “Joey” thing is killing me…
Second, NARAL is only hurting the cause it claims to have at heart, and why? There is no reason to think that Ned would not be a better advocate for reproductive rights, and failing to see that makes them look lazy.
Third, this GOP strategery that has Schlesinger twist in the wind is not, I don’t think, going to send droves of Republicans to vote for Joey. It also isn’t going to bring them out to vote for their own House candidates.
Last, it is important the CT voters know who is really behind a Lieberman win, and ask themselves if - with so little support from constituents - a Lieberman win will have him paying any more attention to the voters than he has over the last 6 years, and if his gratitude will benefit corporations instead of constituents.
You know what, even if it was Hannity or Bill O’ himself, it would not matter.
I do not wish kidnapping, torture, beheading, or any of it on anyone. So, could we please all direct some prayers and good thoughts for their families and for the swift and safe return of the FOX personnel?
Please. This is humanity 101.
As the Iraqis stand up and then fall down and then stand up and then fall down and then stand up we will stand down.
Reports of massive Iraq police defection/abandonment in Fallujah. 2,000 police dissappear leaving around 100.
We’ll be standing them up until 2050.
(Snip)
Fallujah Police Lt. Mohammed Alwan said that the force, which he estimated had increased to more than 2,000, has now shrunk to only 100. Alwan said that insurgents have killed dozens of policemen in their homes and also attacked family members in a weekslong intimidation campaign.
http://www.registerguard.com/n.....tion_world
-GSD
I would like to hear what criteria NARAL uses to decide a candidate is “pro-choice”.
The right to contraception (and Plan B) is just as important to the fundamental rights of women as the right to an abortion. If NARAL doesn’t understand that, than they don’t deserve to be the front line organization for these issues.
Just looking at today’s CBS poll and the
issues that concern most Americans,or at least those polled are as follows,
War in Iraq 28%
terrorism 17%
economy&jobs 11%
price of gas 7%
immigration 4%
So if Democrats,and I include myself, should
pick our fight and stick with it!
You can bet the Bush/Cheney team already
have a plan in operation.
LHP,
Amen, again this is why I’m liberal.
-GSD
*ilbo @ 12
The comments here are not mine. I just put up the link and said who is covering the story. The comments were added after the original post on the last thread.
what lhp said.
GSD @ 32
And why you are a sweetheart
lhp @ 28,
I’m with you. Let’s hear it, gang.
Just left a voice message on Ms.Shipp’s line. Obviously the box isn’t full yet, so come on friends, make the call.
Told her (the machine) I was an activist with RCRC and was disturbed to hear . . . . . . and I expect a call back. Left home and cell numbers.
We’ll see if she ever calls back.
looseheadprop @ 28
Worth repeating.
Rayne @ 24
Here and done. Never visited ePluribus before, so holler if I have to do anything hehe. Userid there is “Kurt”. Yes, I’m that original! :)
Bustednuckles. @ 33
I wasn’t slamming you. There was some guy over the weekend saying all sorts of stuff about needing to kill conservatives or we would never win another election. I wanted to get out in front and try to head off any crap like that.
There is a world of differnce between TRex not taking any poop from trolls or Norske using his colorful metaphor or the famous Atttack, attck, attack exhortation to Dems to show some spine and call em’ as we see em’ vs. degenrating into spewing bile.
I don’t think you were doing that. I was just really hoping that for the duration of any discussion of any kidnap victim, no matter who it is, that we focus on the pain of the family waiting at home and the humanity of the person in captivity.
Always. No matter who it is.
Lhp,
And I agree with you.
I was just pointing out that my post got hijacked
By *ilbo@12.
Anne @ 11:29
BushCo is fighting a “war on terror”…but the methods they use and they way they are running it, they are actually generating more terrorists.
NARAL is fighting a “war for reproductive rights”…but the candidates they are endorsing and the way they are running it are actually keeping reproductive rights from being protected.
Notice a pattern here? I sure do.
Innocent people don’t deserve to be in the crossfire of any conflict. Period.
Let us all hope and pray that the news people are released unharmed.
Let us all hope and pray that the cease-fire takes hold.
Let us hope and pray for peace. Period.
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We are the liberals. We do not wish personal ill on others. We will win our political fights on the merits. We are the good guys.
After we squish J-Lie politically, he can crawl up into a fetal position on his own.
Another tack is to contact your local NARAL. I heard back from the local Executive Director and she didn’t seem too happy with HQ, in fact emphasized that the Washington political office has nothing to do with the local NARAL effort, promised to forward my concern to Washington.
.
I called Naral and started to talk about Joe. Very calmly.The lady who answered the phone had a sharp intake of breath and then said she had to put me through to the political line.
Transferred me to Shiply’s voicemail where I left a detailed message (including callback #) about how much better it would be to back a full pro choice candidate that has the nomination of a major party over a partial choice-no rights for rape victims-cathlic hospitals need not comply-sorta pro choice candidate without any party backing.
heh heh
Take a gander at what our strong ally Tony Blair is doing today, as the world melts down.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pag.....=&ct=5
Here is another shocking news item that I have not really seen focused on.
It is realtionship to the “stay the course” numbskullery that old Ken Mehlman was trying to distance himself from. See Thinkprogress for a great takedown of the Bush/Coulter Republican repetition of that meme.
Anyhow, in Fallujah, the police force has evaporated and there are 100 left out of the 2,000 trained after a campaign of intimidation launched by insurgent groups.
http://www.registerguard.com/n.....tion_world
At this rate, how many years will it take to “stand them up” so we can “stand down”?
This comment by e-five at TP uses stellar logic to decimate the “cut and run” meme.
(Snip)
This war has already lasted longer than the Spanish-American War, the Mexican-American War, the Korean War, and US participation in World War I. How in the world is beginning a year-long process of troop removal “cutting and running?” Anything short of permanent war and occupation of Iraq is “cutting and running” to these bloodthirty imbiciles.
Comment by e_five — August 14, 2006 @ 2:02 pm
-GSD
Yes I’m here Rayne, the grandson was dropped off unexpectedly until around 6 pm so my attention is divided at the moment. ;)
But very interesting, I can only imagine what else you have dug up and I hope some of the info we’ve uncovered today over that full page ad in the Courant butt kissing LieberLiar and related to the swiftboaters makes it to Lamont HQ.
When it comes to this thread I’m sure you know I’m mulling over a special certain graphic I’ve been saving. These people are pissing me off.
Good job, Kurt. If you get asked for any references, use me. Be sure to read the Terms of Use/User Policy carefully; by joining ePM you are a citizen journalist working with folks who are trying to ensure high(er) standards of reporting.
I think there’s a story here that you and ePM user luaptifer could work on together. Would get published on front page at ePM as well as at DailyKos. Once you see luaptifer’s work you’ll understand how all the pieces fit.
GSD — the Iraq Kerfuffle has gone on longer than the War of 1812 and has more casualties too !
20 things you can do to safeguard an election:
http://www.blackboxvoting.org/toolkit.pdf
OK,
Lookit Tony Blair. I expected to see him rearranging the deck chairs.
-GSD
Oklahoma Kiddo #47 - he has learned well from the chimp
I think a lot of liberal interest groups have a habit of selling off their endorsements at a flat rate to incumbents — vote with us on this many issues, and we’ll endorse you no matter what. They offer incumbents these deals because incumbents tend to stay in power, and they want to stay in good with powerful people.
This may have worked out okay in the past (I don’t know the history very well.) But this is one of the cases where the strategy is totally counterproductive.
looseprophead said:
“over a partial choice-no rights for rape victims-cathlic hospitals need not comply-sorta pro choice candidate without any party backing.”
Have you checked in with Ken Mehlman and Tony Snow on that within the past few hours?
Mail to HRC - the Human Rights Campaign
From: Tim Wayne
Date: August 14, 2006 11:47:42 AM PDT
To: hrc@hrc.org
Subject: Endorsements
Greetings,
Is HRC officially supporting Democrat Ned Lamont or Independent Joe Lieberman for the general election this November?
Thanks,
Tim Wayne
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http://timmy.vox.com/
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Marc at 20: Well said.
lhp at 28: A-men.
Ahhh…a big pot of Typhoo tea has just finished brewing. Life is good.
Journalists kidnapped? After poor Dan Pearl you can’t be human and hear that without it making your stomach knot. Prayers for them and their families.
After reading Suskind’s claims that the US did bomb the al-Jazeera office in Iraq deliberately; and following all the journalists that the Iraq war has left dead or wounded, including many shot when cameras were claimed to have been ; then seeing the assaults lined up here at home against freedom of the press our Justice dept being maneuvered to take criminal action against journalists who exposed illegal govt programs; it is all a very sobering picture.
Some days it seems like there are no good guys left, anywhere. Here’s hoping that the people who took the journalists have some soul left and turn them loose soon.
Ed Teller
You too bro? I am waiting with baited breath for the announcement that Joe has switched parties and somehow gotten the Rep ballot line.
I haven’t had time to research any COnn election law, but in NYS you have to get the party chair to sign a “Wilson-Pikula” petition to give the ballot line to someone of another party.
Cross endorsements, except in a very few and fairly obvious cases, are usually the ULTIMATE in smoke filled backroom deals.
Al D’ Amato tries to broker at least one every cycle here in the empire state
RevDeb@44 Sorry to disagree but I wish personal ill on lot of people involved in this mess. The people who have committed mass murder, war crimes, subversion of the Constitution and other felonies should be brought to justice.
Oh Jesus.
Tucker Carlson to be on “dancing with the Stars”.
http://abc.go.com/primetime/dancing/
-GSD
if you hit F5, you’ll see some comments have been deleted.
“Vengeance is mine, saith the Lord.” The rest of us will have to wait.
*ilson46201 @ 51
Small quibble:
Isn’t kerfuffle a word the RW uses to minimize serioius matters, because it equates to dust-up?
NARAL seems also not to have calculated what the fallout will be by backing Lieberman if (when) he drops from the race. He is not going to stay in it unless the GOP shove tons of money at him, in which case NARAL won’t look too good. They are backing a rogue candidate who probably won’t go the distance, and certainly is drawing a lot of support from the party most opposed to NARAL’s purported mission. Talk about squandering your capital (both money and political).
(By the way, every liberal voice should be getting Lieberman to reaffirm his supposed pro-choice credentials so the rank and file republicans will be turned off.)
OT -
http://www.keenefreepress.com/.....;Itemid=36
Steve @ 63
I’m totally with you on the justice.
Do I personally wish for a lot of folks to be creamed one way or another—yes. Do I do it online—no.
Just added an update above and wanted to be certain everyone saw it:
PS — Do you know if your Senator supports Ned Lamont? If you have Democratic Senators and they haven’t taken a public position as yet, isn’t it time they did? Bob Geiger has provided a handy fill-in-the-blank press release for wavering Senators on vacation. Call yours now and tell them to support Ned — publicly! And since it is Congressional recess time, and lots of them are home campaigning at county fairs and senior centers and the like — why not call a local office, get scheduling information and ask them in person. I’m sure they’d love to hear directly from a constituent.
JOOC*?
1) is anybody else having trouble accessing Atrios and
2) the way that the Hezbollah is morphing into the middle-eastern equivalent of the worst of the vc and the nva?
but of course, all comparisons between SE asia and SW asia are specious…
just askin?
.
*JOOC = Just Out Of Curiousity
MyDD may have a lead on getting a video of George Allen and his “mis-statement” (?) They are promising more soon.
Rayne, I’d sign up for the spreadsheet from Matt Stoller but my computer is running on dialup (ouch). I’m sure there’s all kinds of stuff that could be figured out from the financials!
. . . and your little dog, too @ 65
the ironic use of kerfuffle is a tad more classy than brouhaha. The War on Iraq is a slaughter, a butchery, massive war criminality and war profiteering, a debacle, …
Steve @ 63
Yeah, brought to JUSTICE with all their civil rights intact, convicted by a jury of their peers after a trial with full due process.
Not self help. Not street justice. Not us destroying our own souls with poisonous thoughts.
Upright resistance? yes.
In your face, don’t you try to lie to me motherfucker, accountability? oh yes (hear that Chertoff?).
War crimes trials? Hey, I may volunteer to take a prosecution pro bono.
But don’t waste you time, energy and otherwise good karma by hating them, it only diminishes you. Oppose what they do, don’t sink to their level.
konopelli at 70 — yep, I’m having trouble getting Eschaton to load today as well. Might be a blogspot issue. Finally got the page to load a few minutes ago, but it took a couple of refreshes. HTH!
“but of course, all comparisons between SE asia and SW asia are specious…“
It’s dry heat in the MidEast !
Now the post Israeli/Lebanon spin war begins.
From Hizbollah’s Nasrallah:
Hezbollah leader Sheik Hassan Nasrallah said Monday that his guerrillas achieved a “strategic, historic victory” against Israel -a declaration that prompted celebratory gunfire across the Lebanese capital.
From the Israeli’s:
“Israel’s prime minister, however, maintained the offensive eliminated the “state within a state” run by Hezbollah in southern Lebanon.”
The point goes to Hizbullah. If Olmert had truly “eliminated the state within a state” Nasrallah would not be holding press-conferences to ballyhoo his and Hizbollahs’ continued existence.
-GSD
WaPo has the George Allen story now.
I just called Shipp’s office, left a message.
Called the main number and they transferred me to Shipp again. I called back and asked if there was anyone that would talk to me. Told they had instructions to put all calls regarding Lieberman to that number. She admitted they are getting lots of calls - she was really short with me, sounds like the calls are getting through to them.
Tim Wayne, Joe is NOT the “Independent” in this race — somebody whose name I’ve read but don’t recall is. Joe is the CFL candidate, and it’s a party of two, both named Lieberman.
Marc @
20
Haddassah fancies herself Lady MacBeth.
She should reread that play. This is not going to turn out well for her, or for MacLieberego.
When the ghost of Gore/Lieberman 2000 shows up at your banquet, don’t say I didna warn ya, lassie.
when I read that NYTimes story about Hadassah Lieberman, I kept wondering what Lady MacBeth’s first name was …
Holy shit Christy I just snorted iced coffee all over myself reading that one. You gotta give me a warning when dropping snark of that magnitude, it’s just not safe.
And you’re 100% right.
P J Evans — if you think it would be faster by email than by download from MyDD, email me and I’ll send it along.
*ilson — as my stepson reminded me this morning about the heat in the middle east (proximate Tirkuk), it’s a gallon-of-water-every-90-minutes kind of heat.
[sigh]
oh joy, chimpy is about to flap his gums at the state dept. regarding the ME
GSD @ 63
What a tool! That is so, so wrong. Um, which one is the star in that couple?
Juan Cole drops this one liner today:
People like Cheney and Bush don’t understand people’s movements or how they can win.
FDL does! (Even if the DSCC sheeple are timid and reluctant to commit to change.)
Damn. Got Planned Parenthood mailer today.
I’m only giving directly to candidates from here on out. Period.
*ilson46201 @ 73
Dang it. Didn’t catch the irony. Not operating on all cylinders today. :(
RevDeb @ 68
I’ve been jerked around by some world class assholes in my time. 25 years ago, I was unfairly forced to resign from a job I thought I loved by a truly despicable guy. I remember telling my wife at the time that I was so pissed I felt I could kill the guy.
I didn’t. Five years later, he bumped into me in a restaurant. After an uncomfortable moment, he apologized for what he’d done earlier. Late last month, I read his obituary - he died of cancer. He’s not the only bastard I’ve outlasted. And I’m determined to outlast a lot more of them, including the idiots we’re so fond of dissing here.
But one thing I learned from this particular butthead and from others is that you can’t let disgust and hatred consume you. Karma and inevitability will take care of the O’Reillys, Coulters, Goldbergs, Hannitys, Boltons and Bushes of our world. Trust me on this.
Meanwhile, AAARRRGGGHHH!
Tim Wayne — try www.CT4Joe.com or www.ConnecticutForLieberman.com or www.WhinyJoe.com
Matt at 83 — hehehehehe Sorry. (Okay, not really. But I do feel for your keyboard…)
Rayne @ 85
Or, as I reminded people when they talked about Arizona’s dry heat, it’s the kind of heat you can bake bricks in.
Rayne @ 89
I’ve been telling the dialing for dollars folks that my political giving is all going through the progressive blogs now. End of story.
If you want to give money to those who need clinic access, NNAF is a good one.
Every time I see the “CFL” designation for Lieberman, all I can think of is the Canadian Football League; Joey’s the guy who could never in a million years make the team and is now the one squirting Gator-Ade in the players’ mouths and collecting their sweaty towels.
looseheadprop @ 74
Every. Word. A. Treasure. And. The. Whole. A. Manifesto.
And you know what, GSD? The same goes for you.
I always forget what NARAL stands for. I know it’s something like Not Advocating Really Anything Lately or Never Anti-Republican Anti-Lieberman but I can’t remember for sure.
E*T @ 91
Same for me. In my business, I’ve had all sorts of people project their stuff on to me and it has on occasion done me harm, professionally and personally. Ultimately, they all get it back in their face one way or another, and not by me. It has just worked out that way.
Karma can be a bitch.
Molly Ivins isn’t mincing any words either. Glad she’s on our side.
Rayne: it isn’t e-mail vs download, it’s fast vs very slow. I can borrow a friend’s DSL line, I think, but not today. (e-mail: primary pj dot evans at usa dot net, secondary (more space at the moment) pj dot evans dot gen at usa dot net (it’s my genealogy department).
Karma can be a bitch.
And has very sharp teeth and a long memory.
George Allen’s camp is spinning and spinning. The Webb kid said he was the only non-white there.
Brave George Felix Allen brings on ridicule to a 20 year in front of 100 of his lapdog followers.
Allen’s folks saying that Allen meant to call him “Mohwawk”, not “Moo-caca”. Oops, another racial term.
-GSD
Looseheadprop@74 Hate is an emotion without without reason. It is the emotion that drives the wingnuts to vote against their economic self interest and destroy the future for their children. The damage being done now to our country cannot be undone. The totalitarian legal precedents that are being established can never be undone but they can be blunted by use of the criminal justice system. For me, when we retake the gov’t, the worst thing for the future of our country would be broad pardons given in the name of national unity or “healing”.
the high in Baghdad was 117ºF today … it’s down to 98ºF right now — the Minister of Electricity and associates just got busted for corruption which explains why the airconditioners dont work : no regular electricity!
don’t you think you guys are being a little bit ridiculous? NARAL isn’t a partisan organization… and if they (or any other not for profit) had a policy of not choosing to endorse the incumbent when the incumbent is good on their issue, regardless of the fact that the challenger is good on the same issue too… then what power would any organization have to lobby once election season is over?
It’s not like they are the DSCC… that’s entirely different.
forgot to mention — relative humidity in Baghdad is 18% right now
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