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"My God, here we have a terrorist threat against hearth and home and the very first thing that comes out of their mind is how can we turn this to partisan advantage. I find that offensive," Lamont said in an interview Sunday with The Associated Press.
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NED!
Ned!
CT is dull w/out Jane. :)
Spazeboy @
3
We’re just gonna have to count on you and Bob and Keith and Al to keep up the high flying spirits. You can do it!
oops and Maura too!
www.ConnecticutForLamont.com
Hey Spazeboy…THX for the link to NED on TeeVee: http://www.spazeboy.net/2006/08/ned-on-tee-vee/
Lamont rules!
Jane — yes! We liked a lot of what Ned said today, how he said it and who he said it to. It was a very good day for Lamont.
I think what more and more people are going to like about Ned is how so many of his responses to these kinds of things are exactly what you or I or the guy down the street or the folks next door would say if they were asked.
That ability to speak what is on the minds of the voters is the very thing that bonds people to a candidate and gives them hope that, at last, someone “gets it.”
Unlike Joe, who, in the words of Russ Feingold, “doesn’t get it.”
Ned: “I find that offensive.”
Strong start for the pushback. But we need more, loud, articulate, non-stop, coordinated, pithy outrage. Our own Wurlitzer, but stocked with the truth. And the tunes must be catchy.
Ned’s the new Barak.
Dean took it to ‘em as well. And Feingold. That’s three spines.
Barack is the new Joe, no?
tommy yum @ 11
Yep. You can rebuild the party from those pillars.
OT-I’m still staring at that picture of Feingold.
Let’s hope this catches on in the media more than it did today. It was a pretty good day today for the democrats (especially Lamont), finally getting a little bit of air time. I hope it’s infectious. Cheney and the GOP need to get hammered for their irresponsible comments — and I don’t mean ‘get hammered’ as in what Cheney does when he goes on a hunting trip.
From the summer of ‘03 to the summer of ‘06, we moved from the First Wave of Howard Dean and the people-powered movement, to the Second Wave of Ned Lamont - with netroots, grassroots, and the people-powered movement. What a great candidate; he gets better with each interview including those two on cable with Chris Wallace and Scott Pelle (in for Bob Schiefer). I would love for Ned to have this rapped up by the end of September with Joe dropping out around Labor Day - so that he can help some of our other candidates around the country. Sort of like what happened to Barack Obama. Although that thought is a vision, the strength of his candidacy is beginning to wash over many dems running for congress, like Darcy Burner. Hot doggies, Ned; you keep up the good work. Thanks Jane
Think Progress
I’m thinking they’re furiously scrambling for a way to lift the flying with liquids restrictions asap without looking weak on terror or somethin’. It’s made people more angry than fearful and gosh that was not the intent!
I love you Ned.
However, stronger language please.
have to repeat this for ned, I hope he reads this blog, I went over to his but for some reason I don’t think it posted;
one of Lamont’s staffers was doing a radio interview on “state of belief”, an air America program with a progressive host who is also a member of the clergy
what happened was INCREDIBLE!
(can someone find out this Lamont staffer’s name please, and unbeleiveably well spoken gentleman who sounds like he’s been in politics all his life)
anyway, the conversation came around to cheney’s statement assiciating the lieberman loss to terrorism
the staffer, in an even temper, not sounding angry or anything went OFF on the vice president
he started with;
now, that’s not verbatum, I did it from memory, but believe me, I didn’t embelish…this guy just EMBARRASSED the vice president, IT WAS INCREDIBLE
maybe somehow the lamont team can get a copy of that interview and post that protion for us to download and cherish
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scarecrow,
do you really want the kids to see #16? ouch.
tommy yum @ 11
Ain’t it the truth. It’s like the damn party is finally finding its voice.
Aurona — I missed the CBS interview and haven’t seen any story/links. Anyone?
*ilson46201 @ 18
I saw that earlier –Tom Ridge showing spine and independence. Has he rebelled before this? I can’t recall. I’m stunned, frankly, and have to say I respect him more than Colin Powell at the moment. I always thought he was a big dummy but maybe I was wrong.
Jenny from the Blog @ 19
You can’t even wear gel insoles:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/.....index.html
–someone’s not ‘gellin’
Rev — my kids are grown up, but deletion is fine.
From the talking head thread this morning…
‘85 masaccio says:
August 13th, 2006 at 6:43 am *
I went to a fundraiser headlined by Congressman Murtha, and attended by Albert Gore, Jim Cooper (my Congressman) among others. Murtha is delightful. When we talked to him at the reception, he focused on us, paid attention to the questions, and answered directly. I asked him if he would be campaigning for Ned Lamont, and he said yes, that he had already been in Connecticut, but apparently Lamont took a short vacation, which the Congressman thought was odd. Everyone was thanking him for standing up for us, against the idiotic policies of the administration, and he talked about the need to elect Democrats to hold the President accountable. In his speech, he pounded on the accountability theme. He finished with this: the nation has a Republican House, a Republican Senate, a Republican Supreme Court, and a Republican President, and they want to blame Jack Murtha for their failures.’
“He said yes, that he had already been in CT”
Interesting to think that Sen. Murtha possibly traveled to CT… perhaps to visit an old senator?
It’s not just what he said, but how he said it: the man has a Lincolnesque gift for saying a whole bunch with a few words.
Shame on the Bush administration. Shame.
But again, they are without shame.
Re: Tom Ridge
What if almost every time Bush/Cheney took a stand, Ridge came out and said they are wrong?
The Dems would think he’s a pretty useful Republican, right?
Now, flip that, and see why GOP loves Lieberman.
twolf1 -
But how long can it last, I wonder? Is this supposed to be a permanent situation? Everyone who flies is furious and I don’t think they can make it stick. (wishful thinking, I’m going to NYC next month and I never check bags… this is my problem, more than the liquids. grrr).
Testify, NED!
I think you will begin to see a surge of Dems finally speaking out, finally standing up and fighting for what we believe in.
All that pontificating by Holy Joe is wiped out in a simple “that’s offensive.”
This may be the kind of straight-shooting that makes it look like all the arrows in McCain’s quiver are bent.
scarecrow — your comment was so abstruse it flew right over my head …
This is a total fucking rumble gunfight Ned. Please do not be nice with these america-destroying bastards, for godsake please do not be John Kerry. Please please be TeddySF and attack attack attack!
Spazeboy @ 3
Hope that you keep us posted. I am going to try to come up for a weekend to help out any way I can.
Part of the success was even having MSM put a line up like Lamont, Feingold and Dean for the day.
After CHeney and Mehlman trying to say that everyone against the war is helping al-Qaeda, I expected the Lieberman, Biden, Schumer, Obama, etc. crew.
Almost makes you want to start watching the talking heads again.
Almost.
Jenny from the Blog - as I understand it, all the restrictions aren’t permanent, but some are. The restrictions are also tighter in London. The day it happened, someone on one of the M$M channels said that the strict restrictions would last 72 hours. If you can believe them, who knows.
Meanwhile,
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=122076
*ilson — good, that’s my normal level of clarity, but you guys can nuke it anyway.
Is there a strong Roots group in Illinois? Maybe they could start hammering Obama to endorse Ned to make up for endorsing Lieberman in the primary.
Workng for reconciliation not only w the former Soviet Union but here at home, including in my family over some truly egregious situations:
egregious @ 94
ember @ 36
I shall do my best to keep everyone at FDL up to speed. Maybe I’ll even write something worthy of a time-slot here.
Ned Lamont’s “hero” Teddy Roosevelt famously opined that one should walk softly but carry a big stick !
Aurona @ 17 -
Darcy Burner is a fantastic candidate. And she’ll make a wonderful representative. I’m hoping Howie will feature her on a Saturday afternoon sometime really soon.
I got EPU’d on last thread. Oh well.
Ned was excellent this morning, but as already noted, it was the triumverate of Ned, Feingold and Dean (he was 100% “on” this morning) that did the trick. It should be considered a warning shot to the GOP: We’re not gonna take it!
Jenny from the Blog @
19
(EPUed)Homeland Security jumped the shark on this one.
I really really want to see Lieberman destroyed. Truly he is as bad as Cheney. No, worse.
As long as Ned does not emulate Barak, I’m happy.
Don’t you just hate it when the candidates you thought would be great wind up crapping out and joining the jerk squad?
It looks like progressive Dems are finally seeing for a fact that they don’t need the DINOs’ permission to break rank. They’re standing up and speaking out and as Chimpy’s numbers tank, they’ve figured out that we are actually all dying to hear their intelligent and practical solutions to these horrendous problems the Republicans have created. Not a moment too soon.
twolf1:
Thanks for the info. OMG that’s a crazy story about the cell phone!
twolf1 — wow, does that say a lot. they clamp down and then stuff gets through anyway. Wonder how long people will be patient with this stuff.
Sharkbabe @ 47
Lieberman is Cheney without the power
scarecrow @ 23
Here you go. The video seems to be acting up (a YouTube problem no doubt)
I also think a modification of a former Hilary line might be a handy one for the pols to keep, something like:
If Dick Cheney spent half as much time trying to find Bin Laden as he does campaigning for Joe Lieberman, we never would have been in Iraq to start with.
I hope having some REAL Democrats on this morning improved the ratings for some of those shows. Maybe they will do it more often.
This is just sickening: Chertoff - “It’s not like the 20th century, where you had time to get warrents”
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....MlJVRPUCUl
scarecrow @ 51
An MSNBC reporter, I think on Friday, had quoted a woman he had talked to who had successfully smuggled chapstick hidden in a candy wrapper on a flight.
I said before, I’ll say it again, I’m pretty sure obamaa is drinking the kool aid
don’t forget, corporate America at one time contributed mostly to democrats and we were a corrupt party just like the republicans are now
I think they are hedging their bet and starting to nurture some democrats now before teh pendulum swings
obama HAS to endorse lamont, he has NO choice and this HAS to be made CLEAR to him
not only does he have to endorse lamont, he has to RENOUNCE LIEBERMAM IMMEDIATLEY
now, someone get that message to him and I bet he does not, I am telling you he has some pitchers of kool aid and he’s drinking it
Chertoff should know the Brits broke this case while using warrants and other fuddy-duddy quaint legalisms
A few nights ago I had dinner with someone who is as “inside the beltway” as you can get. He had some stories to tell, about Schumer and Rahm Emmanuel. Shorter version:
Schumer is a cheap, lying, skank.
Emmanuel is a killer. NOT to be trusted.
“My God…”. Surly George Bush is the not so learned gentleman, Faust. But which is Mephistopheles? Rove or Cheney?
shoephone @ 60
sounds more flattering that I would be.
Spazeboy at 53: thanks much for the Lamont video on CBS.
Yowser! Chris Matthews just delivered
a pro Lamont, THROW.THE.BUMS.OUT speech at the end of his show.
shoephone
Did your friend tell you who any of the good guys are?
Spazeboy @ 12
Speaking as a constituent. Yes.
Spazeboy @ 30
That sums up most speeches I’ve heard the Senator give since then. Instead of verbal clarity, he talks triangulation. I’ve been paying attention to the news, and AFAIK he hasn’t come out to support Ned yet.
Schumer is a cheap, lying, skank.
But he’s our cheap, lying skank unlike Sen. Gus d’Amato who was their cheap, lying skank !
/me wants to see…hope crooks and liars gets it to host
Chertoff’s Century of the Big Secret. Big Quiet. Big Boys only.
God, he gives me the creeps.
There is breaking news on CNN about 890 dead, 3300 wounded in Lebanon? WTF is going on? Are they just reporting the total statistics for the war so far?
me to me @ 68
It was implied (big time) without actually saying it ; )
me to me @ 67
I’m hours behind in politics today (mmm…beach!), so thanks for telling me about this. I’m transferring the video over right now and will hopefully have a clip up at YouTube w/in an hour or so.
Does CNN always say BREAKING NEWS on the bottom of the screen these days? I can’t tell what specific event happened recently.
Just got back from vacation in the hills of Western Connecticut, where Lamont took the village of Cornwall by a margin of 10 to 1. Go Ned!
while comparing Middle East death statistics, recall that Baghdad and Israel have the same population (6,000,000) , Lebanon is 2/3rds of that.
47 people killed in Baghdad just today!
neurophius @ 73
Yes. Everything is ‘BREAKING’ or ‘DEVELOPING’. They are quickly losing me as a viewer.
Russ Feingold is handsome as hell. Next president. I would not only have a beer with him, I’d sleep with him in a second and I’m not even into guys. Let’s use this shallow MSM people. Who’d you rather be kissed by idiot America? Drunk retard chimp or adult Mr. Feingold?
For that matter, cynical liar Cheney or fucking-honestly-cares-about-our-troops-and-this-country Jack Murtha?
Chertoff - is he pretty much admitting that they were breaking the law all these YEARS?
In any event, he’s just flat lying.
What helped the British is that they had a tip. Not random streams of undifferentiated, illegally obtained, information. They then took that tip and obtained warrants. They do have a different warrant process, but they didn’t dispense with it - they stayed within the law.
What did NOT help the Brits was that, when they finally told us what was going on, we threatened to “render” the Pakistani suspect.
Those kinds of things will make it harder and harder for them to work with us in the future. What also helped the Brits is that they have and continue to approach the mess as criminal matter - notice that they haven’t invaded Pakistan. Nor have we, apparently, invaded Britain.
What hasn’t helped the Brits is that our ME policy, which Blair has supported, have resulting in taking Brits born into a democratic government and turning them into terrorists.
I also hate the MSM going along with the lies:
They didn’t “push for” the authority - they took it illegally. Suspects are deemed to be enemy combatants - they are SUSPECTED enemy combatants. Uighars? They didn’t establish a tribuanl system with “fewer rights” they established a system that does not require proof or evidence and that violates the Uniform Code of Military Justice AND the Geneva Conventions.
WHile they were at it - they also suspended the Fourth, Fifth and Sixth amendments and a few other sections of the Constituion and claimed the ongoing and continuing right to violate the Consitution, as well as the laws of this country, based on suspicions without requiring proof, and based even on being “wrong” (el-Masri) without reprucussions.
BUll - he has no support for any kind of increased efficiency and quite a few things make it seem very likely that all the deadending from undifferentiated sourcing has stretched resources thin and left gapes. We weren’t the one, despite how high Pakistan should be on our radar and the fact that the foreign/foreign calls don’t require any warrant, to sniff this puppy out.
They also let him walk on the fact that a) they can already have 3 days eavesdropping without warrant, and b) they NEVER went to COngress for changes to the law - they just began breaking it. The Patriot Act has been through TWO evolutions, over FIVE FREAKIN YEARS and they never so much as said “hey”
Yellow ties.
twolf1 @ 76
They’ve got a new one (with graphics) called JUST IN that they’ve been beating like a dead horse too.
My senator, Ted Kennedy, had a great op ed piece in one of the Connecticut newspapers this morning. (Sorry, I don’t have the link but it was in the “Curant.” The “real” Democrats are getting behind Ned.
I appreciate the role that FDL is playing in mobilizing support behind Ned Lamont. Everyone involved should think of this as a patriotic contribution to America.
Sharkbabe @
77
Haaahaaa, you are cracking me up. Russ is a freakin’ dreamboat. And he’s so fucking smart. I’m telling you, I would kiss the hem of his pants just to sharpen his pencils. Heee.
I disagree with some of the comments that suggest Ned should show more outrage and bluster. I think showing a calm, cool head is exactly what he needs right now. As somebody else said upthread, speak softly and carry a big stick. Let Lieberman rant and rage. Ned just needs to keep on the right side of the truth.
Ed Deevy @ 79
Ted Kennedy’s Piece in the Courant.
Spazeboy’s Pic in the Courant.
Sen. Kennedy in the Hartford Courant
Cozumel @ 79
YES! Blitzer is the worst offender with that one. They play the graphic and then the s#@t they report isn’t new! the same crap they’ve been playing all day. Just because it’s the first time Blitzer’s Beard spews forth the info doesn’t mean it’s developing, breaking or just in.
*ilson 67 - we don’t really need extra cheap lying skanks.
However, there is something to be said for having a killer, as long as they don’t bite the family.
Mary for now at 6:13 pm
AMEN.
Here’s the link to Teddy’s (MY senator too) op ed.
It is really really well done.
Barak, time to take notes and worship at the feet of the king. This is how it is done.
Mary at 78 - DFR. DNO. Damn fine rant. Dead nuts on.
neurophius @ 65 -
He mentioned Barney Frank, for one. I know from previous conversations he also likes Jerry Nadler. He seemed surprised ( and a little hurt?) that I said I don’t like Dodd. Interesting note about Leiberman: He said “you can’t imagine how hard it is for someone like that to lose his Senate seat.” Said Hojo is probably reeling.
The bottom line of the conversation was that money really is the great equivocator. Everybody takes special interest money because they can’t get (re) elected without it. He thinks the system stinks to high heaven, but when I asked “if we work diligently, and really focus on making public financing of elections a reality, how many years do you think it will take to get there?”
He wasn’t confident we’d get there any time soon. I came home a little depressed.
what is the ref to yellow ties? I see it all the time but for some dense reason, don’t get it……
Spazeboy looks like the very model of the “concerned citizen” in that Courant photo !
Michael Chertoff speaks of the lack of importance of following the law, vis a vis warrants. And he was a Federal judge! For shame!
Spazeboy at 30 — you should take that camera and walk right in. See for us.
Hoooray for the Hartford Courant.
They endorsed Joe before the primary.
When he lost, the Courant called on him to halt his independent run.
Sounds as though they are keeping the pressure on.
FWIW - Obama has officially supported Lamont now … as have many. The question is really what that support will look like on the ground.
Mary - the problem is, Rahm telegraphs that he’d eat his own if it would help him but an ounce.
The Middle East. Human beings being snuffed like cigarette butts on the sidewalk. This thing has gone on long enough, George Bush. You are responsible for this.
twolf1 @ 57
Fresh from the beauty salon: you cannot imagine the anger from ordinary women about having to throw away their lip balm and other cosmetics because of the incompetence of this administration. The revolution might not be televised, but it might very well be FEMALE.
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH.
Mary for now at 6:13:
{{{{{APPLAUSE}}}}}
Ed Deevy @ 80
I emialed a thank you to your Senator Ted for his op-ed in the Courant. I thought it was just the ticket. He’s already written back to thank me — a much better, warmer, and more timely auto-response than I get from either of my Senators!
yahoo!
take their fucking war, and the manipulative arguments they have gotten away with using to justify it, to them, ned.
throw it back in their faces.
war! war! war!
in american politics.
that’s the key to defeating rove and his gang of intellectual thugs.
sure they are playing politics.
but they are bullies; face them down.
changing subjects:
to say something like the quote above
ned must have a different set of advisers than kerry, gore, et al,
or else he has a mind of his own - god forbid -
something john kerry never displayed.
what is the democratic world coming to?
fighting back?
god forbid.
such bad manners.
what will the women voters say?
(other than jane and others in the left-wing fdl crowd.)
Spazeboy — even with that hair color, the Courant recognized you !
Naharnet - a pretty reliable Lebanese source keeps a running toll of dead, wounded, and displaced … in the 33 days since the Israeli attack, 1,071 dead (it was 1056 yesterday night), 3,628 wounded and 973,334 displaced.
http://web.naharnet.com/default.htm
WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH… 5 years ago
1,238 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOES ON AND ON AND…
Spazeboy:
“Barak is the new Joe, no?”
YES!!! Now yer gettin’ it…I remember takin’ it on the chin from some of the more socially acceptable FDLers months ago when I said Barak was a “black Lieberman”. Ya ken cut thru all the pseudosophisticated, condescendin’ bullshit rationalizations about Barak with the simple phrase…”black Lieberman”.
And is there an FDLer out there from Chcago that knows the political history of Barak…I remember readin’ about a former Panther that Barak bloodied up pretty good on his way up and the guy wouldn’t dis ‘im other than ta say that Barak might require some watchin’ before ya give ‘im the kets ta the car.
KEEP THE FAITH AND DON’T BELIEVE A WORD THEY SAY!!!
Ned’s not going to back down. One of the the things he built his campaign around was about Loserboy not standing up to George Bush.
I like his choice of words too. Hearth and home seem more American than homeland, which always made think of communist dictatorships.
orangejumpsuit @ 82
Outrage and a cool, calm tone can fit together hand in glove. Good example, Murtha quote from above, “The nation has a Republican House, a Republican Senate, a Republican Supreme Court, and a Republican President, and they want to blame Jack Murtha for their failures.’
orangejumpsuit @ 82
Yup, you know TradMed’s just waiting for Ned’s “scream.” He’s playing it exactly right: grown-up, offended, businesslike, but HAD ENOUGH!
Spazeboy @
72
Spazeboy — I think the same show was up late Saturday nite — that’s when I saw that end of show statement. It was nice.
karen allen - that is the new dual qualification: You don’t get to be a Federal Judge if you believe in following the law, and if you were a judge and are going to work in the adminstration, you have to show up and confess that all that judging never really meant you take the rule of law very seriously.
Prior expertise in breaking the law or writing memos on how to cover up war crimes - those things are moving to the head of the resume.
meta - I’m the drone on yellow ties, although Imman teases me now and then, bc right after a spiel from me on yellow ties, his son bought him one! *g*
Go to the end of the snark thread and I link three guys fibbing, spinning and being basically unreliable - Chertoff one of them - all wearing yellow ties.
I’ve had a lot of bad experiences with men in yellow ties. It tops excessive blinking for making my think twice.
I’m glad folks are fed up with the faux terrorist crisis but it is beyond disheartening that the confiscation of chapstick has more impact on american women than the death of countless iraqi and now lebanese children.
scarecrow @ 109
So we’re not talking about the “Chris Matthews Show” from this morning?
:p
You just saved me some time! :)
orangejumpsuit @
82
I agree. He needs to keep his cool - calm but forceful, pull no punches. Let those that aren’t running do the down-and-dirty attacking and scream the outrage.
After 5 years, where is OUR Wurlitzer? They should have plugged that in years ago.
Sometimes seems more like a harmonica and accordian. sigh
shoe @ 97 - gotcha.