Comments on: Pull Up A Chair… http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/ Firedoglake weblog Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:23:28 -0600 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.2 By: Francis Puertos http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-243475 Francis Puertos Mon, 14 Aug 2006 18:49:51 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-243475 <p>You have a great website and it is great for the community. Thanks for all the great pictures too. You should join the disscusions here as well:</p> <p><a href="http://community.livejournal.com/neworleans"> New Orleans community blog</a> </p> <p>Please join in the discussions there and link people back to your blog. There are already a lot of people participating daily. It is a great place to poll the communitie and see how people realy feel about the issues. This should serve to strengthen the new orleans community and NO online commlunity as a whole.</p> <p>My belief is that to get real transparency in our government and in our planning process we need to get the young folks involved and up to speed on the new paradigms. Teaching only civics in school and not smart growth and new urbanism concepts is like teaching our kids to count to ten without teaching them arithmetic, algebra and calculus and then expecting them to make it in this world.</p> <p>Help us get those concepts out there! Create an account on live journal and help build a community, an educated community. </p> <p>Thanks,</p> You have a great website and it is great for the community. Thanks for all the great pictures too. You should join the disscusions here as well:

New Orleans community blog

Please join in the discussions there and link people back to your blog. There are already a lot of people participating daily. It is a great place to poll the communitie and see how people realy feel about the issues. This should serve to strengthen the new orleans community and NO online commlunity as a whole.

My belief is that to get real transparency in our government and in our planning process we need to get the young folks involved and up to speed on the new paradigms. Teaching only civics in school and not smart growth and new urbanism concepts is like teaching our kids to count to ten without teaching them arithmetic, algebra and calculus and then expecting them to make it in this world.

Help us get those concepts out there! Create an account on live journal and help build a community, an educated community.

Thanks,

]]> By: prostratedragon http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240793 prostratedragon Sat, 12 Aug 2006 23:55:29 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240793 <p>A regular source of recovery statistics for New Orleans is the <a href="http://www.brookings.edu/metro/pubs/200512_KatrinaIndex.htm">Katrina Index page</a> at the Brookings Institution. Normally they publish new data monthly, but right now they have their one-year anniversary report up also. Besides nola.com, another resource they suggest is the <a href="http://www.gnocdc.org/">Greater New Orleans Data Center</a>, which seems to have parish and neighborhood level data, and also links to federal data for historical comparisons.</p> <p>In the Brookings study, note especially Figure 4, Proportion of open schools in New Orleans metro and select parishes. For June, these are 21 percent for Orleans parish (New Orleans city proper), 33 for Plaquemines, and 7 for St. Bernard. After assurances on the levees, the availability of schools has to be a critical determinant of family decisions on moving back to the city. It should be a major challenge for local and state officials, as well as a target for federal assistance.</p> A regular source of recovery statistics for New Orleans is the Katrina Index page at the Brookings Institution. Normally they publish new data monthly, but right now they have their one-year anniversary report up also. Besides nola.com, another resource they suggest is the Greater New Orleans Data Center, which seems to have parish and neighborhood level data, and also links to federal data for historical comparisons.

In the Brookings study, note especially Figure 4, Proportion of open schools in New Orleans metro and select parishes. For June, these are 21 percent for Orleans parish (New Orleans city proper), 33 for Plaquemines, and 7 for St. Bernard. After assurances on the levees, the availability of schools has to be a critical determinant of family decisions on moving back to the city. It should be a major challenge for local and state officials, as well as a target for federal assistance.

]]> By: Miro http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240770 Miro Sat, 12 Aug 2006 23:37:40 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240770 <p>… how about making this Labor Day a First Responder Day?</p> … how about making this Labor Day a First Responder Day?

]]> By: prostratedragon http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240764 prostratedragon Sat, 12 Aug 2006 23:30:38 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240764 <p><a href="#comment-240408"><em>P J Evans @<br /> 174 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>Personally, I’m voting for bnringing in a whole lot of fill dirt; starting with a ranch in Crawford that we should turn into a water recreation area for veterans and their families.<br /> [/rant]</p></blockquote> <p>Wasn’t something like that the basis for Arlington Cemetery? How much better to do it on behalf of the living.</p> P J Evans @
174

Personally, I’m voting for bnringing in a whole lot of fill dirt; starting with a ranch in Crawford that we should turn into a water recreation area for veterans and their families.
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Wasn’t something like that the basis for Arlington Cemetery? How much better to do it on behalf of the living.

]]> By: Biloxi Bear http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240550 Biloxi Bear Sat, 12 Aug 2006 21:06:03 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240550 <p>Even though I am a die-hard humanist, I feel your dollars will almost certainly be spent wisely by the MDS. Those people are there for the long haul, doing the *real* Christian thing. Expressing faith through service to needy people. The MS gulf coast now has way too many still in need.<br /> We will be grateful forever to those who understand that Katrina was *2* disasters, with different needs and didn’t focus on NOLA only.<br /> MS was clobbered by the strongest tidal surge in US history. Our tsunami.<br /> NOLA was drowned by beauracracy.<br /> Both are a long way from “normal”<br /> <i>I know the Emperor has no clothes. August 29, 2005 made that even more apparent.</i></p> <p><a href="#comment-240135"><em>Fern @<br /> 161 </em></a></p> <blockquote><p>My sister-in-law just came back from a one week construction project in Pass Christian - under the auspices of Mennonite Disaster Service. Turned out to be a bit of a life-changing experience for her. </p> <p>If you’re thinking of donating, and are comfortable with donating to a faith-based organization, MDS is a good option.</p></blockquote> Even though I am a die-hard humanist, I feel your dollars will almost certainly be spent wisely by the MDS. Those people are there for the long haul, doing the *real* Christian thing. Expressing faith through service to needy people. The MS gulf coast now has way too many still in need.
We will be grateful forever to those who understand that Katrina was *2* disasters, with different needs and didn’t focus on NOLA only.
MS was clobbered by the strongest tidal surge in US history. Our tsunami.
NOLA was drowned by beauracracy.
Both are a long way from “normal”
I know the Emperor has no clothes. August 29, 2005 made that even more apparent.

Fern @
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My sister-in-law just came back from a one week construction project in Pass Christian – under the auspices of Mennonite Disaster Service. Turned out to be a bit of a life-changing experience for her.

If you’re thinking of donating, and are comfortable with donating to a faith-based organization, MDS is a good option.

]]> By: hamletta http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240532 hamletta Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:49:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240532 <p><a href="http://www.ldr.org/">Lutheran Disaster Response</a> is doing a lot of work on the Gulf Coast. They’ve set up <a href="http://www.campvictor.org/">Camp Victor</a>, a highly organized volunteer HQ in Ocean Springs, MS. </p> <p>I know someone upthread mentioned getting a group of people together to volunteer, but it might be more efficient to plug into an ongoing effort like this rather than just show up. I don’t think they’d give a flyin’ flip if you’re Lootchrin, and nobody will ask you to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, because that’s, y’know, heresy. </p> <p>And to add a recipe, I’ll keep with the Lootchrin theme and offer kitty litter cake’s kissin’ cousin, <a href="http://www.oldlutheran.com/kitchen/reformation/dowc.shtml">Diet of Worms cake</a> (AKA Dirt).</p> Lutheran Disaster Response is doing a lot of work on the Gulf Coast. They’ve set up Camp Victor, a highly organized volunteer HQ in Ocean Springs, MS.

I know someone upthread mentioned getting a group of people together to volunteer, but it might be more efficient to plug into an ongoing effort like this rather than just show up. I don’t think they’d give a flyin’ flip if you’re Lootchrin, and nobody will ask you to accept Jesus Christ as your personal savior, because that’s, y’know, heresy.

And to add a recipe, I’ll keep with the Lootchrin theme and offer kitty litter cake’s kissin’ cousin, Diet of Worms cake (AKA Dirt).

]]> By: T http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240503 T Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:17:37 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240503 <p>Number reported killed yesterday, by CNN, by<br /> China’s worst Typhoon, IN FIFTY YEARS:<br /> 104</p> <p>Number reported killed under our own dear leader,<br /> IN LOUISIANA ONLY, by Katrina, SO FAR:<br /> 1,577</p> <p><a href="http://www.wwltv.com">www.wwltv.com</a><br /> August 1</p> Number reported killed yesterday, by CNN, by
China’s worst Typhoon, IN FIFTY YEARS:
104

Number reported killed under our own dear leader,
IN LOUISIANA ONLY, by Katrina, SO FAR:
1,577

http://www.wwltv.com
August 1

]]> By: In Need of Surveillance http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240485 In Need of Surveillance Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:59:31 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240485 <p>The two biggest national disasters I’ve witnessed in my lifetime: Hurricane Katrina and George W. Bush.</p> <p>So very very sorry, Gulf Coast residents, for what the Buscho bastards did to you. They deserve to live out their days in a filthy prison dome.</p> The two biggest national disasters I’ve witnessed in my lifetime: Hurricane Katrina and George W. Bush.

So very very sorry, Gulf Coast residents, for what the Buscho bastards did to you. They deserve to live out their days in a filthy prison dome.

]]> By: MsAnnaNOLA http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240425 MsAnnaNOLA Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:00:50 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240425 <p>Just checking in a little late today. Thanks for this post. </p> <p>Something that people can do is come to New Orleans. Everyone needs to know that the French Quarter and uptown are fine. Great restaurants are open. Please visit us on your vacation. Please come spend money here. It will help our economy greatly for people to visit. </p> <p>Many people think everything is destroyed. Much is but not all. We need visitors to come and bring the positive news back to their home states. </p> <p>My sister went back to Jakarta recently with a “New Orleans is for Loving” shirt on. She was greeted at every turn by people saying but isn’t everything still destroyed? </p> <p>Christmas is a lovely time to visit. The weather is pleasant, no hurricanes and there is a whole Christmas in NOLA celebration. I’m just saying…</p> <p>Again, thanks for the post.</p> Just checking in a little late today. Thanks for this post.

Something that people can do is come to New Orleans. Everyone needs to know that the French Quarter and uptown are fine. Great restaurants are open. Please visit us on your vacation. Please come spend money here. It will help our economy greatly for people to visit.

Many people think everything is destroyed. Much is but not all. We need visitors to come and bring the positive news back to their home states.

My sister went back to Jakarta recently with a “New Orleans is for Loving” shirt on. She was greeted at every turn by people saying but isn’t everything still destroyed?

Christmas is a lovely time to visit. The weather is pleasant, no hurricanes and there is a whole Christmas in NOLA celebration. I’m just saying…

Again, thanks for the post.

]]> By: P J Evans http://firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240408 P J Evans Sat, 12 Aug 2006 18:49:19 +0000 http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/08/12/pull-up-a-chair-9/#comment-240408 <p>pass_the_pretzels says:<br /> August 12th, 2006 at 10:55 am </p> <p>It’s sort of a double bind: putting up levees allows the soil (swamp muck, basically) to dry out and it shrinks and subsides, so you have to raise the levees some more or dredge the channels deeper; dredging the channels or raising the levees means the water gets concentrated in those areas and then you have to raise the levees or dredge the channels to carry it away.</p> <p>I’ve heard more than one person bitching that ‘they shouldn’t have built NOLA below sea level.’ Well, the thing is, <i>it wasn’t below sea level when it was built</i>, it’s subsided. But Big Media and Big Gummint can’t or won’t tell it that way. (Personally, I’m voting for bnringing in a whole lot of fill dirt; starting with a ranch in Crawford that we should turn into a water recreation area for veterans and their families.)<br /> [/rant]</p> pass_the_pretzels says:
August 12th, 2006 at 10:55 am

It’s sort of a double bind: putting up levees allows the soil (swamp muck, basically) to dry out and it shrinks and subsides, so you have to raise the levees some more or dredge the channels deeper; dredging the channels or raising the levees means the water gets concentrated in those areas and then you have to raise the levees or dredge the channels to carry it away.

I’ve heard more than one person bitching that ‘they shouldn’t have built NOLA below sea level.’ Well, the thing is, it wasn’t below sea level when it was built, it’s subsided. But Big Media and Big Gummint can’t or won’t tell it that way. (Personally, I’m voting for bnringing in a whole lot of fill dirt; starting with a ranch in Crawford that we should turn into a water recreation area for veterans and their families.)
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