
Ah, where are real leaders with balls of steel when you need them?
Maybe it's just, I cast my eyes back on the last century ...FDR: Oh, I'm sorry, was wiping out our entire Pacific fleet supposed to intimidate us? We have nothing to fear but fear itself, and right now we're coming to kick your ass with brand new destroyers riveted by waitresses. How's that going to feel?
CHURCHILL: Yeah, you keep bombing us. We'll be in the pub, flipping you off. I'm slapping Rolls-Royce engines into untested flying coffins to knock you out of the skies, and then I'm sending angry Welshmen to burn your country from the Rhine to the Polish border.
US. NOW: BE AFRAID!! Oh God, the Brown Bad people could strike any moment! They could strike ... NOW!! AHHHH. Okay, how about .. NOW!! AAGAGAHAHAHHAG! Quick, do whatever we tell you, and believe whatever we tell you, or YOU WILL BE KILLED BY BROWN PEOPLE!! PUT DOWN THAT SIPPY CUP!!
... and I'm just a little tired of being on the wrong side of that historical arc.
Kung Fu Monkey is kicking ass and taking names. Sometimes, you read a post and wish to hell that you had written it yourself. This is one of those posts.
For the record, of course I'm worried about my safety and that of my family. Of course we need to take all necessary precautions, support good police investigative work, recruit more human intel capability both here in the US and abroad, take whatever steps are necessary to shore up our homeland security (really shore it up, not just put a bandaid on a huge gaping hole and declare a PR victory)...you know, get our hands dirty and do some real work on the issues at hand. All of us -- every single person in this nation of ours, pulling together.
But I'll be goddamned if I'm going to let Osama Bin Laden dictate how I live my life.
And I would appreciate it if the President of the United States would have the guts to do the same. If you need me, I'll be living my life exactly like I did before...with a selected finger for the terrorists, and another for all those pantywaists who cower in the corner when they say boo.
The Canadian press has picked up on the White House politicization of national security matters. Even Margaret Carlson is making fun of the Bush Administration crying "wolf!" one too many times. I'd say that the scare tactics are losing their lustre if Carlson is making fun of Bushie's inability to do anything but fail and Cheney's sneer.
In a survey published this month of 100 foreign policy experts, retired military officers, veteran intelligence officers, former secretaries of state and national security advisers there was a striking consensus across political lines. A bipartisan majority, 84 percent, say the U.S. is not winning the war on terror, and 86 percent see a world growing more dangerous. The U.S., they agree, is falling short in its homeland security efforts, according to the survey, which was conducted by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and the magazine Foreign Policy.
Against all that, Cheney is hoping he can sell the theory that Lieberman didn't lose because he's too close to a president who has further imperiled us. He also hopes the elections later this year don't turn on the question posed by Democrats, ``Do you feel safer than you did five years ago?''
Not really, no. The grown-ups who actually know something about foreign policy and the long-term ramifications to American prestige and influence of continued failures in this arena are grading Junior with a big, fat F. Do you trust the Bush Administration and the Rubber Stamp Do-Nothing Republican Congress to continue unfettered, running the country with little or no oversight, continuing their profligate spending ways with little to nothing to show for all that money pouring out of the treasury, after the last five years? Me, neither.
Had enough?
(PS -- Bob Geiger has the Saturday Cartoons up. H/T to reader egregious for the heads up on the KFM post. Great stuff.)
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“…I’ll be living my life exactly like I did before…with a selected finger for the terrorists, and another for all those pantywaists who cower in the corner when they say boo.”
Exactly.
And I’ll be damned sure to talk about the lack of the same action from BushCo.
I hate to say this about anyone, but I have more trepidation about the current mis-administration than I do of Ossama bin Buggin’. BushCo has done far more damage tho this country than any terrist ever will.
Great post Redd- Yep this election will be about fear and whether goopers can get people afraid enough to overlook the obvious bankruptcy of the gooper track record. They are the original CGS party- Can’t Govern Shit!
The arrests in the UK are too far away from the election to have any lasting effect- but I won’t be surprised if GW Clusterfuck arrests a gang a month between now and november. They may never go to trial- but the arrests will help fan the fear factor.
The same people who are hiding under the covers, clutching their teddy bears and wetting their pj’s are the exact same people who won’t go to the “bad” parts of town because “those people” will rob, rape, assault or murder them.
Me, I go right into West or South San like I own the muddafuggin town, and nobody messes with me. A white woman in her 40s. I’ve seen them mug your classic scared white coward bigot, but me–left completely alone. Why? Because I didn’t see the locals as the dreaded OTHER.
It’s all part of a piece.
9/11 didn’t change one damned thing about the way I live my life, except keeping me from concerts. For some reason, the locals in San Antone think that every rock concert will have terrorist activity, so it takes hours to get into a venue. When I bitched about it to a security person, she said, “We’re keeping you safe.” I shot back the Franklin quote at her. She looked at me like I was crazy. It wasn’t a popular viewpoint in 2003.
Excellent post, Christy. The GOP are clutching their sippy cups and trembling in their fuzzy little booties, because they know the public is fed. up. with their fearmongering failure do anything but play politics while ignoring the issues that really matter. And their time of reckoning is fast approaching.
“Tucker Carlson’s mom”
Huh? ; )
“Nothing to fear, but fear itself” would currently point to Bushco. By this time, you’d think 90% of the population would say, “If the admin is telling us to be afraid ALL the time, they’re not doing their jobs or are sinister manipulators of the public or both. I don’t remember ever hearing this kind of rhetoric from our own president or vp. Read today in either WaPo or NYT that the republicans believe that the foiled attack in Britain gives them the go-ahead with surveillance policies and Gitmo tactics. How is it that every shred of news supports their insanity and lawlessness and points to their hope for a win in November?
55 percent, approve of Bush’s handling of terrorism and homeland security (40 percent disapprove), an 11-point boost since May, returning the President to levels not seen since early 2005.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14317706/
Hey, LJ/A, how are you doing? Getting some sleep, I hope?
FYI-Carlsons are unrelated
Cozumel @ 9
Jeebus. WTH is wrong with people?
55% APPROVE? How does that square with his 36% JAR recently polled?
Another report on CT quotes supporters for Lieberman. Why do they?
He’s been “good for CT” and Lamont would be a “powerless” senator.
Keep asking this simple question, loud and clear, over and over and over. Use the Republican tactic of framing an issue in the simplest terms and keep hammering away at it, ad infinitum, ad nauseam.
Why is Osama bin Laden still at large five years after 9/11?
Christy, this ought to be put up on billboards all over America!
I often wonder about the WWII vets that are still with us. I wonder if they lie awake at night and ponder the difference between their country back then and now. I wonder if they stare at the ceiling and think “my best buddy, a 19 year old boy, was shot blown to bits on a beach in France so that we could become Bush’s America”. I wonder if they think that their horrific sacrifices were in vain.
I wonder if that 19 year boy, Ike Eisenhower, FDR, and all the other fallen band of brothers are now spinning with disgust in their graves.
Uh… Maggie isn’t Tuckie’s mum. Don’t know what happened to Tuckies’ Mum. His stepmom is one of the frozen food Swansons, though!
How much more is it going to TAKE? The white noise seems barely penetrable! We’re running out of time to stop the madness.
I posted this comment earlier, but I think it bears repeating. (I will however paraphrase myself.)
Who is winning the GWOT? Who is recruiting more soldiers, Bush or Osama?
Pithy. I like pithy. Of course our recruitment levels are down dangerously low due to our misadventure into Iraq, which has nothing to do with our GWOT except to diminish our efforts and increase theirs.
Christy Hardin Smith, I love you.
Leslie:
FINALLY, I’m sleeping again. I feel like a new person, already, but my doctor is keeping me at home for another week, to re-align my sleeping schedule (and heal up from other things).
Thanks for asking!
Excellent post, Christy. I’m glad I’m not the only one who’s terribly annoyed that every time some self-aggrandizing sociopathic whacko says “boo” all of America is expected to go running around their living rooms with arms flailing above their heads. Please. I’m not gonna jump every time al-Simon says, okay?
Peace.
Well done, Christy. Just keep hammering. Instead of focusing on the real problems, the Bush war-whackos are creating chaos and inciting hatred whereever they go, and it’s making everyone less safe. Just ask the Lebanese, and the Iraqis, and the Pakistanis, and . . .
The bottom line is there is no way to protect this country from determined people who want to strike back at us, if we keep fanning that hatred. But with Cheny/Rummy et al neocons in charge, US policy is to bomb Islamists everywhere, disregard the casualties, and pretend that’s not our policy.
And that WWII poster of Rosie with the wrench (many threads back?) — that’s how I picture you. Unflappable. Unbeatable. There’s hope.
Margaret Carlson is- in my opinion- one of the sanest of the Washington wags. I admire her.
I’m not sure why, but Margaret Carlson reminds me of Bunny Rabbit on Captain Kangaroo.
These people have proven –every single day– that they are good at only one type of talent: smearing and negative marketing. They seem absolutely sure that our media will report only their spin, or report their lies as the final say, repeated over and over. I think that’s their only strategy, to use the simple-minded push-over corporate media to echo their lies. They can’t effectively govern, they can’t effectively set or administer policy. They can’t do anything but spin lies.
MAYBE we’ve proven now in Connecticut we can counter the lies, and maybe the American people now have the wisdom to not only demand the truth, but be able to discern the truth, and then have the courage to vote for the truth tellers.
Damn I hope the elections aren’t fixed.
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And Thank You all for such exciting writing this week while I lurked in between crazed summer business. I don’t know about anyone else, but it really helps me feel positive that you-all are thinking and working to keep us free.
Justmy2 at 11 — huh — all this time…and Wiki says they aren’t either. Thanks for the correction. *g*
Churchill, FDR, Lincoln, MLK, Rabin, al-Sadat, Ghandi, Rachel Corrie, Bobby Kennedy, John Sirica, Earl Warren and so many others. We will I fear, never see the likes of these sorts of folks again.
FDR: Oh, I’m sorry, was wiping out our entire Pacific fleet supposed to intimidate us? We have nothing to fear but fear itself, and right now we’re coming to kick your ass with brand new destroyers riveted by waitresses. How’s that going to feel?
But first, I’m going to lock anybody with slanty eyes in a Concentration Camp in the middle of EastFuckKnowsWhere, California!
oh. I guess part that doesn’t count.
Carry on!
Lady Bug, 16: “I often wonder about the WWII vets that are still with us.”
You’re looking at one of them. No I am not in my grave, but I am spinning with disgust nevertheless. The United States and its allies fought victoriously against fascism in Europe and the Far East. Today we are fighting fascsim at home. To a vet, this is a huge turnaround. Historical.
sofistic @
15
Dubya seems to have it on his desk. “August - must go to Crawford, or bin Laden wins.”
Conyers has a report out
Any guesses how many pages it runs?
Nothing to fear but fear itself? How about nothing to fear but the continuing ignorance of the majority of Americans to the abusive powers being assumed by those pulling Bush’s strings?
I may sound a bit like Chicken Little, but about a month to six weeks from now, BushCo is going to realize that the fearmongering isn’t working. As I said yesterday, 60 % of the people probably REALLY resent being called Traitors.
It will be about then that BushCo will pull something to make the fear a little more tangible. It’s the same pathology that is exhibited by abusive spouses. And it ususlly happens just before their victim/object attempts to break free and get help.
And these folks have already demonstrated that they don’t give a rat’s ass about losing a major American city if it suits their purposes.
There is no way these Gopers will submit to the 50 investigations sitting on Henry Waxman’s desk. No way will they be called before John Conyers. I’m just wondering what the lame pretext for Martial Law will look like.
We should be stocking up on Velvet.
Unbeliveable.
Cozumel @ 9
So the question I have is, who’s designated to be out there hammering at the fact that BECAUSE of Bush’s incompetent policies and administration, we are unsafe, unsecure, and nothing is being done about it? What group of Dems are on the TV and writing essays for the papers? Why aren’t ALL the Democratic politicians making this point in harmonized chorus for the next two and a half months? Are WE afraid?
The Kung Fu Monkey post and the op-ed by Brian Humphreys in today’s Washington Post are about the best I’ve read lately:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01398.html
orangejumpsuit — you would have enjoyed meeting the 90 year old vet, former B-25 bomber (how many of those are left), who walked the neighborhoods for Lamont. At one point, we had enough vets in the same room to cover almost every war up till Iraq, and some in between — lisadawn, you there?
marksb @ 34
Maybe we’re the grownups. I think that’s what Christy is saying above.
Fear is the tool the Bush administration loves the most. I was thinking along these same lines last Saturday when I wrote in my own blog It Starts When You’re Always Afraid, referencing Stephen Sills’ For What It’s Worth from 1966. Still appropriate, don’t you think?
Christy
Thanks so much for the link, read the whole thing it was wonderful, Should be required reading for the masses. Loved the visuals toward the end.
And as for you Number 33 Subway
You could be right, waiting to hear how weak we would look if we changed presidents during a war on terror. Or how presidential war powers means elections can be delayed until further notice, oh and everyone who was part of the Bush crime family has been pardoned for anything they may have done or not done should they ever be prosecuted.
Watch the move “V” for Vendetta, the quote is I believe, “Make them believe they need us more now than ever”
LJ/Aquaria @ 21
Hallelujah! So very glad to hear it. I’ve had my own struggles with insomnia, not as bad as yours, but enough to really mess things up. It’s so glorious a feeling to finally get some real sleep. Hope everything continues well for you.
Don’t you get it, Christy? We will NEVER be safe again unless we drop everything and join THE WAR AGAINST TOOTHPASTE!
It’s what Churchill would have done (if he brushed his teeth)…
GARCIA MARQUEZ is in the Guardian and
IN THE HOUSE !!
Marquez
In the house.
scarecrow @ 43
Are we channeling each other?
No, I was trying to end the bold, but failed.
Oh GOD, I forgot to turn off the Lights again!
Mea culpa! Me a Culprit!
Thanks, scarecrow!
Again
It’s lucky in the extreme that the marriage of intellegence and law enforcement stopped this plot. How much better it would have been to just nuke London, problem solved. Oh sure, Tony might not like it, in the millisecond before he was vaporized but do we really care?
Eventually it comes down to the fact that we will have to wipe out everyone in the entire world in order to be safe. It will start slowly at first, with Iran and wiping out Europe will cause a few pangs of regret but it’s all for the best.
I don’t understand the psycho-pathology that is driving Bush’s base. During the good old days of John Birch,”Red Dawn”,and the Commie’s are fix’in to invade Nebraska; the big fear was the gov’ment spying on good Americans and keeping lists of gun owners. Now, with the same group of people, any invasion of privacy is OK, and “if you have nothing to hide,why are you worried” is the answer to any complaint.
If the NRA folks think the gov’t is discarding the firearm background checks and not keeping lists of NRA members and gun owners,well..they are crazy? I guess hate trumps any form of reason or previously held belief. The meg-church hate machine is the worst. Hate Libruls,hate fags, hate anyone who doesn’t believe our hate. I guess it is our DNA, just waiting to be exploited by politicians and preachers.
rapier — a “cheery” thought, but the underlying logic is inexorable.
But I’ll be goddamned if I’m going to let Osama Bin Laden dictate how I live my life.
Sums it all up for me.
While in High School in 1967, I bought a collection of LIFE Magazines, 1937-1945 — specifically to analyize the shift in American Public Opinion before and after Pearl Harbor.
America was gripped by fear and paranoia — but most of it had dissipated within 3 or 4 months, and it was swept away by Midway.
And that lame ‘no one could have imagined flying planes into buildings’ excuse?
The first American hero after Pearl Harbor was USAAF Captain Colin Kelly, who was reported to have crashed his B-17 into the Japanese Battleship Haruna, sinking it on 12/10/41. The story wasn’t true — he actually bombed the cruiser Ashigara, and crashed after being shot up by Zeros. Even though the kamakazi story wasn’t true, Capt Kelly was a real hero, and the first of many.
Scott @
39
The bottom line is that BushCo can’t lose control of Congress, and it seems all they have to do is stay two steps ahead of indictment until November and they’re home free.
Several months ago, our cute lovable furry friend Grover Norquist assured a reporter that Bush will drag bin Buggin out of a spiderhole around Halloween. Frankly, everything we did between now and election day would vanish in a puff of smoke if that happened. Their permanent majority would be secured. This is another scenario we are not prepared for.
But then there is that whole pathology of abusive spouses thing. The need to teach the bitch a lesson she’ll never forget. Any woman whose ever been slapped around knows what I’m talkin’ about.
In her previous marriage, my wife was abused to the point of severe permanent disability. Although the circumstances differ greatly, the pathology is identical. We are not prepared for this either.
scarecrow, 96: I am a lot younger than your 90-yr old B-25 pilot since I came in near the end of WWII. If he was a B-25 pilot, he has my admiration (and envy).
Not all vets are against the Iraq debacle, obviously, but there are enough out there to constitute a small but growing voice for sanity.
Anyway, here are a few vets against Iraq war links:
http://www.vaiw.org/vet/module.....&sid=9
http://www.veteransforpeace.or.....Sanity.htm
http://www.pww.org/article/view/2123/1/113/
Think about it: the next President, and those who follow him/her, are really going to have a tough time leading on this issue.
We’ll have had nearly 8 years of Polly Prissypants running from Chicken Little being chased by Henny Penny, so Americans–a good number of whom were conscious during the very real existential threat, the Cold War, for Christsakes, so should know better–are conditioned now to be scared, to be hysterical. (Thanks, MSM!!)
So any deviation from that position will seem as if the president is “not taking terrorism seriously” and have to fall in line with the screaming bedwetters.
During the 2004, only two intelligent things were said about our country’s approach to terrorism:
1) Bush: “I don’t think the war on terror can be won.”
2) Kerry: “We need to get to the point where terrorism is nothing more than a nuisance.”
BOTH had to immediately backpedal and then deny that they meant them.
I wonder if we’re still there, as a nation.
I hope not.
Well this is timely. Go to the History Channel website: www.historychannel.com. On its home page a poll has been put up asking which partnership was more beneficial to our national interests: a) Blair-Bush, or b)Churchill-FDR. 77% of those who have taken the poll so far have chosen b) Churchill-FDR. It is my intuition that the History Channel tends to attract more conservative-leaning viewers, so I think this poll is significant. FDLers, go over to the History Channel and cast your vote for leaders who weren’t wussies.
Oh dear, it’s suddenly back to all bold again
Read Mr. K.F. Monkey. Great rant and well-executed points. And maybe it’s time to remind ourselves that the media is in business to sell us things. That’s it; nothing else going on.
Yesterday in the gym at 7am, person after person stopped between weight machines and positions to stand in the middle of the weight room and stare at the TV, which was doing the morning version of All Terrorist Bombers, All The Time. Their attention was locked in and they kept their senses alert for any fresh news.
I have to think, since that’s prime time for affluent and educated business people to work out (at least in my town), that this was just a killer day for the sales departments at CNN, Fox, and MSNBC. Commercials selling us shiny new cars, financial planning services, mutual fund families, real estate brokerages, and, of course, soap, were picking up more viewers than normal. Nobody wanted to miss the latest on the terror.
As the man said, nice business if you can get it.
So the White House jumps into this with a stacked deck—make your connection to the events that have everyone riveted, and spin more fear. The networks NEED more fear, that’s what brings in the viewers and sells more advertising. Watch us constantly—we’ll tell you the latest breaking news and keep you safe!
In zoology we called it a symbiotic relationship.
Now. How do we break up this symbiotic little dance?
and here I thought scarecrow fixed it….
The one thing that scares me is the thought of martial law, which Subway serenade mentioned above. I started thinking of it again after the bizarre attack of Lamont and CT voters by Cheney, Snow, etc. All that “terrorist” language over a primary in a small state. Why would anyone beyond low-level staffers take time to use such overblown metaphors for a primary election? It’s that kind of imaginable attack by govt against a democratic election process that didn’t go their way that makes me fear what will happen if fear doesn’t work for them.
It’s hyperbolic to call the Pearl Harbor attack “wiping out our entire Pacific Fleet.” Only three ships were permanently lost, and none of the carriers were in port at the time. (Wikipedia)
medaka — your post is bold, but others are not. Try refresh.
…or George W. Bush (who’d like to believe we’ll blame it all on bin Laden).
The one at the top, not “Refresh comments”
Chimpy’s half-assed efforts in Afghanistan just got another 3 American servicemen killed this weekend.
I guess the Taliban is doing double duty these days, advising the Democractic Party and STILL killing U.S. troops in Afghanistan after 5 years of U.S. intervention.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w.....OE=NEWISVA
Alas, another grim milestone reached in Iraq as two more troop deaths put toll over 2,600.
But, as I heard my local conservative talkshow host say last night…”The death toll in Iraq is not that high”.
-GSD
EvilDrPuma @ 62
Yes. We seem to have two sets of crazies trying to dictate how we live. Can we put them in a separate time-out room, together, and close the door?
First, hello to all the FDL firehounds who have given me so much hope that people-powered politics can succeed.
Second, re Bushco’s lupine cries of “Terror” —
I was sitting in an auto shop’s customer service waiting room on Thursday a.m. with the teevee blaring out the news of the latest British intelligence success. Two ladies, probably 55 , also were there. When the President came on to make his remarks from the Michigan? airport, one of the women started laughing out loud at him, while the other just rolled her eyes and shook her head.
This happened in the heartland — Iowa.
The ferocious pushback from the Bush/Coulter Republican Party in response to the Lamont win is ominous.
Time to bring back the old maxim:
“Beware the wounded beast”
-GSD
Boy Who Cried Wolf meet Chimp Who Cried Terror.
-GSD
GSD, 64: “But, as I heard my local conservative talkshow host say last night…”The death toll in Iraq is not that high”.”
For someone who just lost a son/daughter, relative, or friend in this grotesquely mistaken war in Iraq, the death toll is 100%.
Let’s start this meme:
The party that cried ‘wolf.’
Can’t believe them anymore. We are less safe because we’ve grown accustomed to the constant alarms.
I humbly submit.
Promoting a constant state of fear was critical to the Nazi rise as well (bull horns in the streets etc.). Another compliment is the link between the secret service and the Nazi power drive. The searching out secrets of individuals in power also plays a key role. One wonders what “deep secret” Bush has on Tony Blair that would make the latter so subservient. On Lieberman, too is there also a “deep secret?” that Bush is holding onto. Or is Lieberman’s position framed principally by factors of Israel support payback? Reports the other day that Condi and shrub were in disagreement on the Israel ceasefire is noteworthy, because Bush apparently was insisting on support for the ongoing (and increasing) military drive deep into Lebanon.
Dana @
60
Yeah, ya gotta wonder, why all the fuss over a primary? Perhaps the Hamdi ruling rattled them.
It’s just wierd listening to Gopers lecturing us on how to be Democrats. BTW!!!
Beware of terror alerts over the next three months. Elections are expected to strike, possibly in the first half of november.
Steve @ 49
Over at Orcinus, guest-poster Sara (Mrs.) Robinson is doing a series on the authoritarian personality. She starts with Dean’s book in her first post, and says she’ll go on to talk about ways we can find “cracks in the wall” to reach those who are captive to this way of thinking. I hope everyone here reads her posts - it sounds like they will fit very well with our discussions, especially with the Dean book coming up.
I spent 2 hours stuck in the minneapolis airport on wednesday. Every tv showing Glen Beck. Even though I wanted to vomit, he seemed to draw large groups like moths to a flame. Where did he come from and how do we get rid of him. The reaction of people scared me. THESE are the people that scare me. (cnn)
Cynical Optimist — those two women were obviously rabid, venemous, lambshers of the left.
Or, they could be the majority of folks out there. We should laugh/roll eyes with them. Pass it on.
The neocons take their orders from fictional characters in Orwell novels. Of course, those character were drawn from people Orwell observed in his own day. A fondness for doublespeak and unrelenting fear doesn’t originate with W and pals.
It does stem directly from fascist elements of the last century and not just Hitler, Stalin, and the other axis leaders.
But you can bet your bottom dollar that our “great leaders” draw strength from the worst parts of the last century. Our country has been nourishing these strands of fascism especially since WWII (tests on citizens, hiring axis scientists, and just generally believing that government officials know best and we don’t need to know what they know or what they are doing in secret).
It was bound to bloom. What we do about it determines whether or not democracy, as we know it, survivies. The end of W won’t be the end of all this. It’s so much bigger than the neocons that our future will be characterized by fascist elements for decades to come. It will take utter catastrophe to force us to chose to route this all out. But we are just as likely to surrender to it (given the evidence of W’s reign) without much of a fight.
Wish it were otherwise, but as a nation we seem too comfortable to forcefully confront what threatens our way of life.
scarecrow @ 64
It worked! Lo and de-Bold!
Thanks for the pointer, scarecrow, and g’night Firedoggies!
”The death toll in Iraq is not that high.”
Oh, we don’t count the brown ones. And the others? Well, it’s just a number.
the Republican comprehensive guide governing:
BOO!!!!
Yes indeedy I’ve had more than enough and I’d like to say a couple of things.
First, this sites blogging on both the ‘net neutrality’ fight and even more in helping Ned Lamont gain traction against the scum Joe Loserman are classic examples of what many were talking about at YearlyKos in terms of netroots action.
Both those campaigns, as we all know, must and I know will continue here and elsewhere.
I submit there is another opportunity to attack the fascists oligarchy which has done so much harm to our nation.
That opportunity:
Impeachment of Mr. Bush. Specifically the grassroots efforts around the country which seeks to send resolutions of impeachment from cities, towns, states and other polities to the House of Representatives.
So, I submit for your consideration that this site get on board and take action!
If not now, when?
2,601.
It’s a number, just a number. Total U.S. troops klled in Iraq to date for the vainglory of George W. Bush.
19,323.
It’s a number, just a number. Total U.S. troops wounded in Iraq to date for the vainglory of George W. Bush.
0.
It’s a number, also a number. Total number of U.S. troops killed or injured to date by Saddam’s WMD.
http://www.bgladd.com/Just_a_Number.jpg
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Ah, my beloved Garcia Marquez paints a stunning portrait. Thank you.
orangejumpsuit -
My dad’s a WWII vet. (He’s 82 now). He was a tailgunner, flying over France, and still considers his part in winning that war the most important, and proudest moment of his life.
In December of 2002 we had a long talk about the terrible prospect of being dragged against our will into the horror of a war with Iraq. He said:
Those IDIOTS in the White House don’t know a goddamned thing about war. Not one of ‘em has ever served in war, execpt Powell, and what’s his excuse for being such an IDIOT???
If we end up in war with Iraq it will be the biggest, dumbest, most dangerous mistake this country could make. And I think it’s gonna happen.
ReneD -75. Yes you are right. Traveling through Atlanta recently I was shocked. CNN everywhere, everyting about fear (babies dropping from windows, bird flu, kid thefts - you name it). Plus this past year my bank (Bank of America) has CNN going all day in the money take out area. I have tried to complain that I can’t concentrate - but to no avail. It is all FEAR, FEAR, FEAR. It really tends to transform what one thinks one can do constructively to counter. If you are afraid, it is unlikely you will speak out.
Everytime Bush talks he sounds like a third grader doing a book report in front of the class.
“This was a plot by Is–lamo fashists. They are evildoers. They hate freedom.”
But the brush clearing shrub travels in an echo chamber peopled with sychophants who gape and smile stupidly at the voice of Rove eminating from a burning bush that is not consumed.
Please stop me before I metaphor again.
shoephone — your dad has more wisdom and foresight that the whole of the Bush Administration together. Can we arrange a trade?
RWCole,
Check out the latest talk from Zal Khalilzad and John Fund. They are both talking about how Iran is planning on boosting terror attacks at the end of the month….In Iraq. So once again the motive shifts and now we are in Iraq to fight a proxy war with Iran. How many different reasons do these asshats need?
There is some smelly, stanky stuff going down.
-GSD
Oh and remember Tommy Franks talking about dead Iraqis…’We don’t do body counts’.
That was then,
This is now:
http://today.reuters.com/news/.....GHTING.xml
-GSD
Shoephone, what your pappy said in spades. If you can read any recent Kurt Vonnegut you will also get a sad perspective of a great American who witnessed the horrors of the Nazis and is now horrified by the U.S. government as run by the Bush/Coulter Republican Party.
Off to do housework. Have a good day, everyone.
Richmond, getcher self a real good set of earplugs. We need your sanity intact, y’heah?
LJ/A, I do hope you’re crafting a hot letter to that lunkhead M.D. who got your system so screwed-up!
Howard Dean is in Fargo today for a local picnic. Anyone have a good question if I get close enough??
Have a good one, NefLes, and we’ll catcha later.
Lamont and Reid pushing back on the Lieberman/Cheney lies:
http://www.boston.com/news/loc.....on_terror/
The year? 2001.
Cheney, “George, they attacked from the sky’s. Just like we planned. MWAHAHA!!!”
George, “The sky is falling, the sky is falling. Uncle Dick says the sky is falling.”
Maybe people have finally had enough of these evil clowns. They’ve tried to crochet doilies out of pig turds for too long. George, what you’ve been giving us is not a finally woven purse. It’s a sack of shit!
War criminal’s. All Rethuglicans and Democrat’s who supported Preznit Alfred E. Bush ought to appear before the Hague. Sooner, rather than later…
George, et al, you’d better go find another country to run into the ground. American’s are wisening up.
ReneND @ 91
Is there something wrong with the idea of Democrat campaigns including the words investigate and prosecute?
scarecrow @ 87:
But then I’d end up with chimpy as a father. And that would mean I’d have to kill myself.
Maybe we can come up with a different remedy. Cloning, perhaps…
ReneND
“Don’t you think the Bush Administration’s policies in the ME are exacerbating the hatred against the US? And if so, isn’t that creating more people like those in London who are angry enough to blow up planes?
Do you think the media understand this connection? “
A.Citizen (81): on net neutrality and netroots. One thing that surprises me on net neutrality is that an article hasn’t been made that this would be disastrous for education in rural America, libraries everywhere, and for International business. If everyone is going to have to pay to “upgrade” to sites, it is going to create a two tier system. Many key academic websites will not be available I imagine. I have tried to get my university (and professional organizations involved) but there is little response. Am I offbase on this?
Okay, I lied. Had to share this. Salon has an article on Martha Gellhorn, early feminist and onetime wife of Hemingway. Here’s a brief excerpt:
An ugly, pointless, witless process that squanders the world’s goodwill. How depressingly familiar.
The Saturday morning cartoons Christy posted are especially good this week. Most notably, the bloody steps in Iraq cartoon.
shoephone — good point. Okay, your dad goes to DC, the Bush team comes with me. I have an extra room, with a lock, and extra computers locked onto FDL, but no ability to comment. I’ll take one for the team.
Oilfieldguy @ 86
Actually, I think he sounds more like this, “This was… eh.. a plot by eh… Is–lama fa shits. They… eh… are evul doers. They… eh… hate freedom.” More time in front of the class hasn’t improved the presentation.
Be careful you two.scarecrow @ 101
OT - headline at the raw story - still unlinked:
NYT: Clearer timeline for wiretapping scoop: Developing…
any ideas?