“Yes, 62 percent of self-identified liberals chose Lamont, according to a CBS News/New York Times exit poll. But Lamont was also the choice of 39 percent of moderates and 35 percent of conservatives.”

http://www.boston.com/…

So, Dick Cheney, Cal Thomas, and Chuck Roberts of CNN are “arguing” (as in “some people might argue..”) that 39% of moderates and 35% of conservatives are “al-qaeda voters” and “taliban party” voters. Cal Thomas is calling 39% of moderates and 35% of conservative voters “anti-semitic” because they voted for Ned Lamont over Lieberman.

The numbers show that Joe Lieberman lost this election because he aligned himself too closely and too often with George W. Bush and the Republican majority in this government. Bush and the GOP have alienated 39% of moderates and 35% of conservatives.

I bet every 6 mos we are in Iraq we set back the war on terror by a year, and our reputation by 5. Each day in Iraq undoes our progress in Afghanistan. Within a year, we gonna have 40 dead a day. 40 dead. A platoon a day. And that’s just us. The Brits and the Euros are gonna have their hands full in Afghanistan too. Pakistan is a dang haven for the Taliban, just like it was when Russia was involved, and those mountain passes in the south are gonna be worn smooth by feet headed north to attack, and feet headed south for protection. And the best ally we have in the region literally boils his political opponents.

If George is so gung-freakin’-ho to start a war, why not go after Osama and his dialysis machine in Pakistan?

Oh yeah. They have nukes. And we only push around and get belligerant with countries that are easy to attack.

So be careful how you vote in the next 2 years America. If you cheer a huge military prescence in Iraq, listen to these lying manipulators on the radio and praise that studly repuglican resolve, don’t be suprised when you have to take boats and trains instead of planes to anywhere, your taxes rise to pay yet another 5 billion a month for a war, and that underpaid security guard at your local port who replaced a real police officer fails to stop the next terrorist attack on US soil.

I’m a huge proponent of impeaching Bush but a lot of people think that would be counter-productive. I don’t agree but there are legitimate arguments for each side of the issue.

I think impeachment (or at least a serious impeachment drive) is symbolically important on the world stage. But that’s just me.

Obviously dead thread here, but for the record, either that or an enormous landslide victory for a liberal Democrat in 2008 are the only things that might turn us around with the rest of the world. A big showing this November would help, too, or at least let everybody get a breath.

I only know the original version, which I think is a terrific movie. Unfortunately, that Raymond was destroyed a few times over … Save yourself, Joe!

Margot @
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prostratedragon at 96
That’s very interesting. Hmm.
I’m picturing a “Manchurian Candidate” scene.

No! taking friggin’ sides, for Goodness sake. How much terror and despair can these mofo’s and their enablers inflict and still get away with? I consider my religion to be Pacifism and I am a hard core anti war proponent. How anyone who’s sane in this world is not anti war is bewildering to me. The anti war message should be screamed from the rooftops at this point in time, not only because over 60% of Americans are against staying the course but more importantly, because justice screams out to be heard and to prevail after the assault on life committed by busco. They should be attacked with the TRUTH, not placated via political reasons.

But when 60% of Americans are now in the same frame, it’s not a bad frame unless we let them control the frame.

Connecticut voters that I saw being interviewed understood that the war sucked resources away from Americans and plowed it back into the sands of Iraq. They understood that military action and policing are good things, but not when they effectively p*ss away resources.

The voters get it; the Repugs don’t. The very fact that Joey tried to smear Lamont on al-Qaeda tells me that Joey’s fully bought into the Repug frames and he’s still out of touch with the voters.

Cozumel @ 8:29 says:
“IMO. Lamont was FOR going into Afghanistan to get bin Laden, as was I, Kos, Wesley Clark, yada yada…”
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Y’know, Cozumel, you and those other guys you mentioned could have been wrong. Think that’s a possibility?

Bumper sticker I recently saw in beautiful B.C.:

Don’t Believe Everything You Think

Looks like Rove’s antiwar crap is working. Divide and conquer, sigh.