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Morning gang. Woke up late. Just making coffee.
See we've had a foiled terrorist plot overnight in Britain. Glad Scotland Yard was on the case...and what a coincidence it was foiled just as Lieberbush lost the election. Thank goodness for good police work.
Crooks and Liars has an hilarious Daily Show bit on the Connecticut Senate race. It's a must see.
So, as I wait for my first cuppa coffee, what's caught your eyes in the news this morning? Do you have a link?
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Christy!
Ned!!
Ahhh…A foiled “terraist” plot immediately after the antiwar candidate wins. I’m surprised they broke it out so soon. I figured they would at least wait until October.
In a side note, I wonder if our red alert is more of a pink alert due to the amount of dust that has gathered on the homeland security chart due to lack of use….
jus’ sayin’
Good Morning. Off the canvass for my favorite local politician. Have to get an early start before the heat grows to thick for words.
Hi Christy, don’t I love seeing that “an” before historical!! Now to see the clip……..
So far today, just watching the terror plot deal on CNN and catching up on all the work that I didn’t get done over the last two days due to Lamont and FDL ;)
Top o’ the mornin’ to you too!
I found this interesting: Is Joe Lieberman a Bad Jew?
I’m still perturbed about the Bush administration’s proposed changes to the War Crimes Act that would retroactively protect those who authorized “humiliating and degrading treatment” of detainees (I think this is normally known as “torture”).
Am sick to death of these people acting like criminals and then trying to change the laws to save themselves from prosecution when the rest of the country finds out what they were up to.
Am feeling cranky this morning - sorry. Not a coffee drinker, so that won’t help.
Nothing has caught my eye this morning. But let me tell you how boring my cubicle is after roaming around the country side for four days. Drat!
I usually lurk but I wanted to say something today. Is it totally cynical of me that the first thing I thought of when I heard this on the radio this morning was: “How convenient for Bush and Lieberman?” I just can’t believe the timing! I live in Connecticut but I didn’t do enough for Ned’s campaign, just donated money and did a little phone banking via MoveOn. My Dad had a heart attack 2 weeks ago and I couldn’t do more at the time. But, he’s much better now, and my hubbie and I both have decided we are going to do whatever it takes to help Ned win in November. My 11 year old daughter wants to go canvessing with us, she says she is going to bring her video camera along and she needs me to buy her some editing software! My little blogger, I’m so proud.
here’s stewart interviewing brian williams
How the heck are we supposed to travel with small children without bringing beverages on board?
Does that mean I have to pour my bottled water over my shoes prior to boarding?
Let me promote my own photos from the Lamont camapaign:
Victory celebration in Meriden
Pictures from the Hartford area on the campaign trail
The only thing left I want to see is public pressure brought to bear on Lieberman to drop out.
Josh Marshall has a nice takedown of the Time Magazine piece that just regurgitated the Rovian response to the Lamont victory — that the Republicans are overjoyed because now they can accuse the Dems of being weak on security. It probably took a bit of courage on Josh’s part to slam Time Magazine because he just had a piece in Time a couple of days ago on the CT election. So he apparently is now a guest columnist for Time. In a way too bad. I would rather see him not get anywhere near the big media. But, the man has a right to earn his livelihood.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com
On the Daily Show Jon was great, but so was Samantha Bee. She said if Joe loses the general election he will start his own Senate.
I agree! How very con-veeenient that a terror plot should be “foiled” just after a major primary, acting as a referendum on the failed Iraq war!! Hmmm…
It’s a pattern we’ve seen before; however, the MSM is gobbling up everything the republican spin machine tosses at them. I have yet to hear or read one single journalist question the timing of this event.
Hey it ate my comments.
I asked how are we supposed to travel with youngin’s if we can’t bring beverages on board?
Yesterday on NPR David Brooks spoke of the emergence of a new McCain-Lieberman Party that will appeal to moderates who are fed up of the extremists on both the right and the left. I understand that Mayor Bloomberg is joining this party and will be campaigning for Lieberman in Connecticut. Maybe for simplicity they could call it the NeoCon Party.
Morning! Anybody who hasn’t caught http://www.firedoglake.com/200.....it-matters yet — all I can tell ya is that it may be the single most stunning moment in FDL history to date.
TRex tells a story - then Rayne and Fini and others bring similar stories, achingly told - then Hope brings news you won’t believe - then the whole crowd jumps in to DO SOMETHING.
I’m telling you, you won’t believe your eyes.
over at atrios, theres a screen shot , which watertiger researched. it has a photoshopped visual of Howard Dean with a mustache ala Hitler.
The GOP are ratbastards, frm bottom to top.
I’m wondering when sectarian violence begins in the USA? I wonder who would be called insurgents?
There is no patrotism in the GOP only lies
Currently reading about Castro as a Conservationist. Intersting piece. I wonder what will happen to Cuba once the dictator veil falls completely and foaming-at-the-mouth developers swarm down upon the island.
what a coincidence it was foiled just as Lieberbush lost the election.
If that was the motivation, wouldn’t it make more sense to do it before the election, to have an effect on it?
Weicker in WaPo wrt Independent Joe-
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01977.html
…
–30–
I just heard back from the owner of SoreLoserman.com — she said she’d sell it for a million dollars — I guess I will have to put up a giant PayPal button! or get Ned to spring for it…
Nevertheless, I do own www.SoreLooserman.com and www.Sore-Loserman.com
Lieberfolk gettin up early these days. Thought all the paid staff got laid off.
As for security at Heathrow, as of 36 hours ago there wasn’t a whiff of anything tense. I’ve seen more uptight paranoia in small town airports in the midwest. If there was REALLY a possible red alert security issue, don’t you think they might have nudged Heathrow to tweak it up a little? Things that make you go hmmm.
Yep,
Last time we had a rainbow alert was right before the 2004 election. Funny that. I suppose we will have lots of these before Nov.
Just made a hotel reservation in Meriden for Sun-Wed on that fateful week in Nov. Hope I get to use it (gotta talk the board into letting me go back and work on the final stretch).
The Republicans were always going to portray the Democrats as weak on security anyway. Even if Lieberman would have won. The R’s have worked overtime to portray the D’s as cowards. If they keep us busy with the “no, we’re not” track nobody will ask why they keep sending our people to be killed and maimed so little Georgie won’t have to be embarrassed by admitting he lied to get us into a war. Or admitting that he’s completely destroyed one country and has made significant inroads into destroying America.
Constantine @ 11
Love the pics! One question. Did Maxine really do all that campaigning on her feet in those shoes?
NPR featured about a 20 minute Wurlitzer solo this AM re: the foiled plot. Lots of self-congratulatory love from Chertoff et al.
The TSA has taken the bold step of not allowing liquids in carry-on baggage anymore. Often wondered how they differentiated between a flask of Vodka and a flask of Nitro-Glycerin, so probably an wise if overdue change.
BTW, the alert levels have been raised. I know how shocked you all must be.
jb
The Terror Alert and politics — it was Monday that Ken Mehlman gave a big speech about the fall strategy will be painting Democrats as soft on defense and terrorism. Rove has stated so too. Tony Snow went off on a “Democrats soft on terrorism” riff in his first presser after Lieberman lost.
Very suspicious …
Good morning, coolios. Christy, so glad to hear you’ve slept in. Me, too!
Thank goodness it was Scotland Yard.
Are we safer today? Getting all those terrorists killed, George?
This is what we are all about - The Death of Triangulation:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01515.html
Heathrow 36 hours ago, I was in terminal 1, which connects to scary places, and terminal 4, which connects to the United States. Absolutely nothing happening. Loose and relaxed. No double checking. No extra guards.
Does anyone know what time Donita is going to be on KXLU today?
On this one, I don’t question the timing, especially as the whole alert started with the UK’s Scotland Yard, not US Homeland Security. If Michael Chertoff had been the one to announce this to the world, then I would have been more dubious. Given the opinions in the UK toward the Bush administration, I can’t imagine Blair & Co. agreeing to any kind of “let’s round up some folks, call them terrorists, and crank up airline security all to make Dubya look good” kind of plot.
Gotta go check out more UK papers . . .
This diary just made the recommended list over at Kos - they are tracking the IP addresses from the Joe website fiasco through the internet (to the RNC - which is starting to cover themselves):
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/10/13342/6107
I did a link over at Myleftnutmeg.com
http://www.myleftnutmeg.com/sh.....aryId=2713
Jane was great on Rachel’s show this morning. No wonder the site is bogged down, lots of visitors?
Welcome to FDL where the reality based community lives and works its heart out for the sake of DEMOCRACY.
progressive Brits are very suspicious of the politicized nature of their security forces too … just coz the English are involved, dont take it as proof of seriousness. They didnt call it “Perfidious Albion” for nothing !
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4778575.stm
oh lucky us, later today, chimpy will be commenting on the foiled terrorist plot
Actually, this is an opportunity to start working on the message to separate Iraq from terrorism. This one looks real to me–it’s not some loon with a blowtorch planning to take the Brooklyn Bridge or some poor sap who got entrapped into a money laundering deal.
So we should be pleased that British intelligence penetrated this plot, and believe that American resources should be directed away from the war in Iraq and to finding and stopping actual terrorist plots.
Y’all don’t be getting too oooy-&-wowy over “Scotland Yard,” okay? If you’ve followed the Britpress for a few years, you’ll share the unhappy realization that Blighty’s coppers are every bit as incompetent as our numskulls. We just like their accents better, ’sall.
Maybe Will can check in with us today, with his Thames-side view. I hope so . . .
grs @
20
I heard a report yesterday that when Castro dies, the US has a large contingent of official government people who will swarm in immediately to “help” the surviving government [read puppet] set up a thriving “democracy.” Colonialism much?
I watched the news conference from Scotland Yard on the BBC this morning . . . I was struck by the pains the British took to avoid the usual race-baiting and scare-mongering that that happens in the US. They referred to the Muslim community in Britain as their allies in fighting terrorism. What a difference from the way things happen here. Then they cut to the smug, self-congratulatory Chertoff in the US. How lucky for him that Scotland Yard is actually doing their job and he can stand in front of the cameras and take credit for it.
meta @ 39
Throw in some wealthy Miami expats and you’re good to go.
With ever-so-slight apologies, I’m gonna re-post a rant I tossed OT into an earlier thread after watching very disturbing broadcast on C-Span yesterday (upsetting to me anyway - hopelessly smitten by environmental issues).
……………….
Anyone begging for a fresh story?: check C-Span
http://inside.c-spanarchives.o.....d=dprogram &record=196800627
It wasn’t the panel presentations, it was the Q&A afterwards that made [Bryza, Matthew J. Deputy Assistant Secretary, Department of State, European & Eurasian Affairs] squirm like a live fish on a griddle. Others on panel were
[Verrastro, Frank, Director, Center for Strategic and International Studies, Energy Program] & [Nanay, Julia, Senior Director, PFC Energy, Russia and Caspian Service]
IMHO, EVERYONE on the panel was extremely uncomfortable at this ‘under-the-radar-appearance,’ folks.
Body-language-message: BP pipeline problem in AK is not only inexcusable & indefensible, but viewed by experts as catastrophic in its repercussions.
Maybe I’ve unintentionally exaggerated.
On the other hand, panel mbrs seemed in agreement re:
#1)EXTENSIVE corrosion problems in HUGE (main? all?) pipeline(s) serving biggest oilfield in the world (Prudhoe Bay North Slope AK) (scope of problem as yet not completely revealed)
#2)DECADES of lax control measures (e.g., NEVER checking pipelines for corrosion, NEVER even taking measures now required elsewhere for controlling corrosion,
#3)NEVER reporting problems or possibilities thereof before,
#4 ad infinitum) ????????????????
…….
Not too great leap on my part, since admitted by panel mbrs:
Problems developed to this point BECAUSE all that measuring, checking, controlling & reporting has NOT been REQUIRED by law, but simply voluntary. Therefore, BP, not being required to do anything, … didn’t.
[unless you count millions spent for ads assuring us how “green” they are]
This is how I understood the Q&A & the visibly squirming ‘experts’ called upon to answer the questions.
So, all you caribou, OOPS! Cross yer legs & trot to the nearest breeding ground to the, uh, dang, where’s my compass!*&$!
Wading, diving & swimming birds: DON’T! till further notice (we’ll get back to you on that…)
HEY, You assorted seals, polar bears, plovers, snowy owls, arctic foxes & hares, snow geese & tundra swans - OUTTA HERE! NOW! Leave the eggs, kits, peeps & whatall. WE need this area, NOW!
O.k., let’s get goin’ on this. Back those trucks on in here. There ya go-oo-ooo-ooooops!
Dang! Permafrost is supposed to be PERMA, RIGHT?! WHAAAT GLOBAL WARMING NONSENSE YOU TALKIN’ BOUT?! Send fer a heavier truck & back it up in the same spot!
Okeydokie Bub! That’ll do ‘er………..hello?
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HAD ENOUGH?
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p.s., ever wonder where one disposes of humpty-lebben-thousand miles of corroded pipeline so’s no one’s gonna notice? or who pays for the fuel for the transport for the disposal & replacement of the pipeline that the fuel’s supposed to travel thru to… oh gawd, my head hurts.
N.B.: that “our numskulls” refers to Mueller, Chertoff, and their ilk — NOT to the good folk out on the line every day!
I don’t doubt that the plot may very well be real. My question is, how long have they known about it? Timing is everything. Anyone volunteer to watch the Deciderer and Understanderer agitate and slur and mumble so we don’t have to. I swear, I’m in no mood for his BS smoke and mirrors today. Can’t you just see his jaw jutting back and forth and condescending sneering at us? OOOOOOOPPHHHH!
orangejumpsuit @
13
Good Morning Firedogs,
Christy - great to see you getting some sleep
goodness - as they began their GWOTAPALOOZA - one of the most oft repeated memes was that we libruls wanted to make it a ‘law enforcement issue’ - well screw me runnin’ but what the hell is this this morning, but yet another in an long line of terra plots uncovered by the law enforcement commnuity - aarrgghh! - gonna go get another cup and read Lotus’ link
and hear hear to lotus @ 39 - I seem to recall some poor brazilian being shot at point blank range in a tube station and nothing done about it
What next? Will there be the Al Qaeda “colostomy-bag bomb plot” that will be foiled by the Mike “Fifth Horseman” Chertoff and the DHS All Stars.
Notice that if this indeed a real matter that is was stopped by “police work” and not by a long bombing campaign, a lengthy occupation or threats to other nations.
-GSD
I agree that it does look like there was some legitimate terrorist thingy goin’ on. But, I am in no way convinced it wasn’t used politically. The Brits may have been keeping tabs on some legitimate al qaeda and maybe even knew of their plot. They have already said that they didn’t know of a date that the attack was to go down. So, were the Brits on stand-by until the Chimpster gave them the go-ahead to make the bust? When the timing was politically right? They did say that Chimpy has known about the plot for a while.
dammit! somebody put LieberChow instead of pumpkin bread in the giant Hamster Wheel that powers the mighty FDL servers … no wonder things are so pokey this morning …
Hi Christy, going to try posting a link to this again, I’ve been having terrible luck lately.
WaPoo editorial praising Lieberman’s independent run.
Yes, it made my head explode.
No liquids on planes, maybe breastfeeding will make a comeback.
*ilson46201 @ 23
*ilson, you crack me up! good work! and please keep up updated on updates on yer one-stop-for-all lieberloser site …
ps — is anyone else out there loading R E A L slowly, or is it me ???
*ilson
I gather y’re havin’ trubble too, then?
s-l-o-w & balky for me here.
I’m sayin . . . better beef up that hamsterchow ‘fore fall follies(!?!)
Christy,
You’ve got mail . . .
Air America continues to slide further into irrelevance. They are going to remove their best show “The Majority Report” but leave that DINO wanker jerry springer in place.
No link but saw it on Atrios before I left for work this AM
Mitt Romney called in national guard to help with TSA security, others on stand-by
After Lamont’s primary success in Connecticut, how about boosting the visibility of similar contests again?
Here’s one that deserves another look (you had an item on this a couple months back):
http://donnaedwardsforcongress.com/
http://blog.washingtonpost.com...../wynn.html
Donna Edwards is running against Albert Wynn in the Democratic primary in an US House district that covers much of the eastern suburbs of DC in Maryland. Wynn has supported a series of Bush initiatives, including the Iraq War, the bankruptcy bill, the energy bill, the estate tax, and net neutrality. How can this guy still be representing a very liberal district? Donna Edwards is an intelligent, articulate, and progressive candidate who deserves a second look.
Am loading very slowly too.
Just read the article on the plot uncovered to blow up a number of transcontinental flights to the U.S. So…people are not going to be able to bring their laptops, cell phones or Ipods onto the airplane. And no water?
Flying, which is already so much fun, just got even better…
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200.....error_plot
This whole terror alert thing just reeks of Republican desperation. Does anyone actually believe it? I know I don’t. Have I mentioned how much I love the smell of Republican desperation in the morning? :)
Interesting thing I saw at Rawstory, they’re hinting that the McCain/Lieberman thing may be picking up some steam. Yes I know it’s from Bobo, just hold your nose hehe. I still think a McCain/Lieberman presidential run is likely.
Sigh, tin foil hat time.
I’ve already emailed John @ Crooks & Liars about this, but maybe someone here would have noticed.
I switched to Faux (as I often do during the news) last nite to see what the cryptkeepers had to say about the CT election. I noticed in the crawl the “Terror Level Elevated” bit and said to my housemate, “Man, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen that!! Figgers Faux would be the only one still doing it!”
Then I wake up to this.
Has Faux still been running that in the crawl all along, or did they stop and start it back up? Now I’m not a regular viewer, but I’ll pop over during commercials to see what the wackos are saying.(had to say that in self defense)
Terry in Maryland @ 55 - Have you voluntered for the Donna Edwards campaign? I’m going to volunter for her campaign. I’ve read her website and think she’s exactly what we need here in PG county.
Airlines are gonna sell blunts instead of liquor.
Terry in Maryland at 53 — take a peek at Howie’s post from yesterday (the Blue America update) — there’s a great update on Donna Edwards there.
How do we know Al Qaeda didn’t sabotage Joe Lieberpud’s website?
-GSD
Short break, quick thought:
I understand the “Karl Rove directs all beings in the Universe” idea — buy I don’t see that here. And even if the timing was orchestrated, it will only benefit the Democrats. The Republican playbook is premised on the outdated notion that the people prefer the Republicans when it comes to security. That is no longer true. Every time one of these terror alerts goes up, people do not say, Thank God Chertoff is Homeland Security Director!” They say, “Shit, these guys in charge have no idea what is happening — we are less safe than we were on September 11th….” So all these scares really reinforce the “time for a change” attitudes which in turn help Democrats.
The Democratic response to this ought to be something like:
“We will not be safe in this country until the failed Chertoff is replaced.” Our troops do not stand a chance as long as the failed Rumsfeld is allowed to stay in office.”
Personalize it to the losers. The people will make the connection to Bush.
peace, out.
Woke to the Red Alert. Yeah, my cynicism radar is on red alert, too. Can just about cite what the Rove/Mehlman blast-fax to their bread-and-circuses lackeys says this morning.
soft on terror.
Well we need to speak up loud and strong. Dems, the netroots, ordinary Americans, are not soft on terror! False choice.
We are strong on demanding competence from the deciderers. Strong enough to demand accountability for stupid, self-serving, selfish mistakes made by Bush [or fronted by Bush]. Strong enough to clean house…starting with our own last Tuesday. And we will not stay silent any more.
I finally posted on windcatpond having 3 comments in a row dissolve into “error with connection to server”. I am grumpy and am going to take a break. If this comments goes through, all hail to the mice in the basement. My son who lost his wife is not doing well and I am going to have lunch with him.
Ahh, it’s good to sleep in. I think I may have finally caught up after the insane past coupla weeks…I’m still sleepily sipping my jasmine tea and poking round the web…
Anyway, the piece that has most jogged my mind so far this morning is entitled “The Sweetness of Lieberman’s Defeat” by Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair on Counterpunch. I don’t necessarily agree with everything here, but many of their disturbing contrarian assertions are firmly rooted in fact.
Also, I was checking out this interview with Maxine Waters (given last month), via the awesome blog Negrophile, which is incidentally currently drawing attention to the 2006 Black Weblog Awards. Ya know, these are the kinds of links you don’t often run across in places like FDL and Kos…
Peace.
and hear hear to lotus @ 39 - I seem to recall some poor brazilian being shot at point blank range in a tube station and nothing done about it
Hear hear to cbl, more like, for giving us http://windcatpond.blogspot.com to play in when the Big Lodge at the Lake is full-up!
But, yeah, that Brazilian kid … short recap:
“The Yard” gets so twitchy-fingered after the 7/7 bombings that when they surveille a block of flats linked to some of the 7/7 bombers and out walks the poor de Menezes kid on his way to work … they swarm after him and, as he takes his seat on the Tube, their “crack” sharpshooter team gathers round and unload on his face at pointblank range. Unfortunately, their guns are rawthah more functional than their intel.
BIG diplomatic steenk as the de Menezes family arrives from Brazil and with their government demand an inquiry. Sir Ian Blair (no relation), head of the Yard, is found to have, ahem, misspoken rather badly, etc., at the time and later. But last I heard (before my attention got deflected to Ned, Lebanon, et al.), Sir Ian’s still hanging onto his job with his fingernails.
Jane Tennison does not exist. Alas.
Nice one Imm. I totally agree, remind them that these idiots have totally failed us on security every time they bring it up.
Lotus@18,
this is why I feel so lucky to have stumbbled onto a blog site named FDL. Can you believe these AMAZING people? And the world fears bloggers - go figure.
Guess NYT ran a bit on switching to Mac. Found this entry in MDN blog comments -
Guy needs some pumpkin muffins, I think.
Good Morning GrandmaJ - so sorry to hear about your son, glad his mother can get to him
IANABlogger - but GrandmaJ for some reason if you press down on ‘control’ key as you click on certain links - it works, don’t know why just does - try that next time
only half way through the Late Nite story and am already bawling my eyes out -
for that soldier’s loved ones
for the struggle of the young mama ahead
for the iron curtain wrung down between the American people and those who die or suffer in their name
for this glorious open hearted community
I did hear that things like infant formula and liquid medicines will be permitted, but will have to be presented for inspection, with the traveler likely having to drink some of the liquid to prove that it is not a harmful substance.
klyde @ 58
Word is Air America may not keep Sam Seder on the air for much longer.
If you enjoy the show, please send an email of support to this address.
supporttheshow@majorityreportradio.com
Twisted Martini @ 71
Agree here too, the alleged fact that al qaeda can still organize and communicate and get massive plots together does not make me feel safer. We need to throw it in their face. We are creating more terrorists because we have become one of the most hated countries in the world.
Note - for those of you having trouble posting, before you hit submit comment, highlight and copy your comment incase it gets trashed. if it does, u can paste and try again.
Threw a few pics up from my Connecticut trip if anyone’s interested…..what a great time. The tide is turning…..
Anne @ 75
And this is just fucking ridiculous. (pardon my French). I am sick to death of these idiots who are so afraid of terrorists that they want us to completely change our lives. At this rate, they’ll have us all cowering in our basements in the dark all day. It’s an outrage. GIVE ME MY DAMN COUNTRY BACK!!!
OT.
Ciro Rodriguez is running again. His district was redrawn and is slightly more Democractic than before.
Onto Deadeye Dick Cheney:
(Snip)
Cheney said that to “purge a man like Joe Lieberman” was “of concern, especially over the issue of Joe’s support with respect to national efforts in the global war on terror.” He explained:
The thing that’s partly disturbing about it is the fact that, the standpoint of our adversaries, if you will, in this conflict, and the al Qaeda types, they clearly are betting on the proposition that ultimately they can break the will of the American people in terms of our ability to stay in the fight and complete the task.
(End)
Dick Cheney refers to a legitimate primary election as a “purge”. No wonder the nation is so shattered. The Vice President thinks that Iraq is a model democracy and that Connecticut is an authoritarian state that conducts Stalin/Pinochet style “purges”.
Can that man have any less of a conscience?
-GSD
Love the pics! One question. Did Maxine really do all that campaigning on her feet in those shoes?
She was indefatiguable. Here’s a picture of Maxine Waters in sensible shoes.
You know, on another note, towards the end of the evening, she walked into the media room and thanked all of the bloggers for their support. Good for her.
Anne 75 - so n theory, you could have to end up drinking some of your own breast milk. There has to be some other test they can do. Someone that is hell-bent on dying may not have any problem taking a drink of some chemical. As long as he/she can stay alive for a few more hours…
Oh. We had our own Miami airport incident. Returning from Central America, iirc.
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb....._12-7.html
Yep.
I take this alert seriously. I believe the arrests are in the pursuit of real security.
I also think the spin will be in. Comedian Rush, pro wrestler Hannity, the whole shill gang will have their talking points. Even the MSNBC reporter/anchor right now has already shown her neocon bias on past occasions.
Somebody noted last night how a media person can manipulate a straightforward answer in the discussion of J-Lie’s website “hacking” …innuendo. Leading questions. “Trust, but verify.” Good advice for these days. “Distrust, but verify” applies, too.
Sure does change the Sunday morning program planning, doesn’t it?
Oh, and McCain-Lieberman is a non-starter in my opinion. McCain’s a savvy politician…he won’t pick a 3-time loser. No matter how self-delusional that loserman may be this week.
These tooobz are super jammed. *ilson, I’m sending you some fresh hot pumpkin muffins Special D. Or maybe what we really do need is a big truck?
Come to think of it, let’s also send you a brand new very big swatter to replace the one you’ve got. I’m sure it’s in tatters by now.
From the Jon Stewart piece on Joementum last night:
“If not nominated, he will run. If not elected, he will serve.”
posting from london - i get on a UNITED flight return to JFK saturday. aside from the massive lines and the trouble of having to pack everything below (including this precious laptop), i actually feel safer flying during a time when Heathrow airport security is super- vigilant (as opposed to when gaurds are down). that said, i think the dems have a very good argument that the bush admin has chosen to take the fight offshores at the expense of protecting our homeland borders and ports. do we feel safer as a result of bush’s destructive, regressive policies - hell no.
reid and pelosi ought to be going ON THE OFFENSIVE on this immediately.
sam seder needs our support on air america
sam is one of the most informed progessive hosts on the station and I always use his information for referance
he needs emails imploring the station to keep him on
mailto:supporttheshow@majorityreportradio.com
I hope you guys here do a blog or something to help out, I don’t know what I’d do without him
Not to turn up the volume, but any further word on the 11 Egyptians they talked about last week?
Some sanity on the airplane plot from Larry Johnson:
http://noquarter.typepad.com/m......html#more
why do I feel that, now that these guys are caught, there is a bit of the “closing the barn door after the horse has gotten out” effect going on here? seems like all these precautions should have already been in place…
and I keep thinking how Rove called Lieberman yesterday with an offer to help… hmm…
Christy, you’ve been even more fascinating & delightful since you’ve been allowed to let go of fitz — his stuff is too close to your professional training, so it smothered your natural creativity
as to ‘the majority report’, i think it’s boring — listening to that guy’s like going to chapel & listening to that woman’s like hearing fingernails scraping along a blackboard: she also has obvious conflicts of interest — unlike the women of fdl, she’s none too bright either
i’d much rather read fdl than listen to the radio
Luckily for Joe, we’re ALL GONNA DIE!
This has been a Terrortainment Network Breaking News Update… Stay tuned for team talking head coverage!
(Bottom paragraph contains news round up links including coverage 1.3 Million people running for their lives from the most powerful typhoon to hit China in 50 years.
WaPo CIFA Resignations
This is part of the Duke Cunningham investigation. The one where defense and military intellignce contracts were influenced by bribes in a time of war. By Republicans. At least one, Cunningham, was a veteran. You’d think our media would be crawling all over this story, but no.
I would love a McCain/Lieberman ticket. What a complete turn-off!!!
More on London from Chirol (Coming Anarchy) via John Robb:
http://www.cominganarchy.com/a.....g-returns/
j
Profound, that was, sedrunsic.
lotus @ 98
heh!
a foiled terror attack - mother’s milk to cable tv.
how long will we be like infants easily distracted by shiny objects?
i guess as long as we are under the influence of broadcast opiates.
there should be a print ad that says “this is your mind.” (picture of a whole egg). “this is your mind on cable tv.” (scrambled/fried egg.)
sedrunsic, I know of what you speak.
Yoohoo, medaka, SO glad we got our knickers untwisted last thread. Hard to do wif all the stops and starts of these blame hamsters tis mawnin’, wadn’t it.
A McCain-Lieberman ticket will takes more votes away from the R column than the D column (a la Ross Perot).
OldCoastie—gotta agree with you there. A plot gets thwarted…and the alert level increases…ain’t that kinda bass ackward?
lotus, my dear. I don’t think I properly thanked you for all the party treats on VICTORY night. I’m still stuffed. And good to dust off the ol’ porch once in awhile. Although it appears I somehow got a blog out of it. Funny what happens when you’re trying to bang on the door and reach for the wrong doorknob. Heee.
meta @ 101
yeah, sedrunsic’s picking up Blank Kludge’s consonants!
E, when I saw the headlines, my first thought was of you. I am glad to know you are safe. Are you ALL the way home now?
egregious @ 24
Marysz @ 42
Seriously, where the hell is this going to end? At some point it’s easier to just stop flying completely. Yeah, let’s destroy major sectors of our economy to save ourselves!
meta, if you need my email address, please let me know. Otherwise, please drop me a line so we can establish that link as well as this one. ‘Cause I RILLY wanna help with the “I‘m a Blogger” project!
Constant Comments R US
UNITE
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Wrt the Egyptian students. last I heard ,they found three and are still looking for eight.
I would be watching Liebermans staff closely. He’ll take anyone at this point.
From the TSA:
Go to the TSA website for more information about air travel back and forth between the US and England. I just got this message at work.
Yup, me too. First thing I thought of was the pattern of “Good news for Dems = Terrorist alert/plot foiled.”
I want to trust my government, I really want to, but they’re making it so damn hard.
No more Astro-glide on those trips to the Domincan Republic for El Rushbo.
-GSD
Although it appears I somehow got a blog out of it. Funny what happens when you’re trying to bang on the door and reach for the wrong doorknob. Heee.
Crikey, I’ve missed something! Hate when that happens . . .
Hey FirePups, you might want to revisit this stuff:
http://img70.exs.cx/my.php?loc.....rt_NEW.gif
Who’s JAR are they monitoring now? Are they watching Joe-nertia’s polling or something else?
Shoot - Sorry about my last post. I need to build my posts quicker and read back in the thread farther.
lisadawn82 @
63
I was actually redistricted into Van Holen’s district a while back, when they were going after Connie Morella. My family is in Wynn’s district and I’ve been rabble rousing amongst all the folks I know in that district to actually take a look at Wynn’s voting record, not just their vague recollections that he’s a nice enough guy. I’ve been trying to get some of the senior citizen ladies to volunteer for Edwards, since senior ladies can move the world if they put their minds to it. :)
GSD–
Oh ICK, ICK, ICK…
btw - O. Stone’s treatment of 9-11 opens today. Right?
TerriInMaryland and lisadawn,
Yes, let’s make as much noise as possible for Donna Edwards here in Maryland!!! Everybody who hears about her wants to vote for her. She’ll be at the Montgomery County Fair this weekend and is looking for volunteers. I’ve met her a few times and she is super-nice and loves the bloggers.
I got an e-mail from a friend about a big MoveOn phone-banking project to increase progressive turnout all over the country. I’m sure most of you are already aware of it, but if you aren’t then please check it out. You know the Republicans are working the voter turnout on their side, and MoveOn has some excellent new technology.
I’ve been reading John Dean’s “Conservatives Without Conscience”. I’m not a big fan of the kind of psychological stuff that he has in there, but he does provide some pretty well-informed background on conservatism, the rise of the religous right, and the power factions in the Republican party. I’ve always wondered what conservatism actually was, and now I know why; It’s whatever you want it to be, which makes it a very useful big-tent ideology.
peace,
jim
so let me make sure i’ve got this right. scotland yard just foiled a plot to blowup planes coming out of BRITAN into the u.s., meanwhile, the u.s. has 130,000 soldiers in IRAQ ankle-deep in the sand trying not to get shot in mostly sectarian violence.
and the gop says we should trust them on national security?
lotus @ 107
Lotus, I lifted your email the other day because I knew that one day I might need it - and I’m gonna use it, lotus! I’m sending you an email in a bit with the plan de Aztlan. We are very committed to this project and it looks like we have some major talent in the house.
london terror plot briefing is on CSPAN now
think I’ll write DiFi this morning with my concerns that we are spending so much of our resources in Iraq that we can’t properly fund law enforcement for anti-terrorist efforts…
keep up the pressure!
Jane was fabulous on Rachel Maddow’s show this morning! Maybe that’s why FDL is running a bit slow today. Either that or LIEBERMAN’S HACKING YOUR SITE!!!! :P
Constantine @
12
Thank you so much sharing these photos. They’re great. Love that one Maxine, and love the T-shirt shot.
GSD - Daryn Kagan will be disappointed
Looks like the ‘terrist’ win: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14274862/
When I click on the donate button for VISA and Mastercard, I get PayPal.
Is there something else I should be doing to get the payment method I want?
Thanks.
Terry in Maryland @ 119
Isn’t that the truth.
I’m waiting for my call back from the Edwards campaign. Donna Edwards signs are going up around my neighborhood. Yesterday morning I was privileged to see Congresswoman Waters in the hotel across from Ned’s Campaign headquarters. She was VERY interested when I mentioned that I was going home to volunteer for Donna Edwards campaign and asked if she had a shot. I don’t have a feeling about that yet but hopefully I will after some canvassing. I just don’t want the good feeling from the CT campaign to go away.
oops…movie opened -
http://www.courier-journal.com...../608100347
but still timing issue, imho.
Chertoff said today’s plot involved liquid explosives - substances that could be mixed.
I guess this means Mentos and Diet Coke are now banned too?
it’ll be interesting to see how long this news cycle lasts on this plot….
Very sluggish getting to FDL this morning. Anybody else say tha? Or did somebody dump that dump truck which blocked up the tubes?
My fellow Americans, the liberation of England has begun.
-George W. Bush
P.S. Rawstory is running a lede that says the R’s plan on attaching the Lamont victory to Democrats nationwide. For a party that is planning on winning individual seats by “localizing” elections, sounds like a foolheardy strategy.
Repub: “Do you support NED LAMONT!”
Dem: “Well, do you support GEORGE W. BUSH?”
The Republicans continue to be off their game, the Lieberman loss is proof! LOL.
-GSD
Jane was fabulous on Rachel Maddow’s show this morning! Maybe that’s why FDL is running a bit slow today. Either that or LIEBERMAN’S HACKING YOUR SITE!!!! :P
Hmmm, now let me see, TOWA. Let me just apply dis-hyeah crack intellimagence a-mine to dis-hyeah conundrum. See can I figger out which makes more sense in historical terms …
[A. Trebek cues the band]
Nope. Ya got me. Maybe Mary of Anne or lhp will show up and suss it out for us.
Forget the snakes — the last word in terror is —
Mousse on a Plane !
CEO - the tubes are blocked because Ted Stevens didn’t eat his cyber prunes.
His staff sent him some internets on Monday reminding him to do so but he didn’t get them until Wednesday.
Womkette provides some insight into the primary results:
“The sad thing is that the Jews were so busy undermining McKinney’s candidacy that they totally forgot to prop up Joe Lieberman’s.”
ya’ know - Liarman has been all over the airwaves… wonder when they will be putting on the “giant killer”, Ned Lamont?
Think I may have to ask a few of the news outlets…
I know what has caught my attention today. It’s an article on the netroots influence in the SF Chornicle. It has a long section on Jane:
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....mp;sc=1000
Check it out.
looseheadprop,
I am indeed all the way home.
How’s your writing project, isn’t that coming up really soon? Also waiting patiently for a puppy update.
Blank Kludge @
121
ding ding ding
I think we have a winner! Most likely reason for the timing of this “security alert.”
. . . and your little dog, too @ 131
Keep going on that track there, li’l dog, and you’ll get a page before too long that gives you the option of PayPal or “regular” credit card. As I recall, anyhow . . .
Hi everyone. Betcha Dubya in Crawford and Blair in Barbados have all necessary gels and pastes with them on their excellent vacations.
Information Clearing House has some articles very much worth reading, imho. Here is an excerpt from Scott Ritter’s latest:
>>>>>>>>>
So long as the American media collectively continues to masquerade as journalists, when in fact it serves as little more than the propagandistic arm of the U.S. and Israeli governments, the American people will continue to wallow in their collective ignorance of the world they live in, unable to discern solutions to problems because they are for the most part unable to define the problem itself. This is a very serious matter, one with huge potential consequences.
Take, in closing, the manner in which Israel and the United States have painted Hezbollah’s military underwriters in Iran and Syria. If Hezbollah resistance continues (as it seems likely to do), the United States and Israel have stated that Syria and Iran become, by extension, legitimate military targets.
This discussion is offered without any thought or recognition of the “other side of the coin,” namely the mindset in much of the Arab and Muslim world that if Iran and Syria are targeted for providing military support for Hezbollah, then the No. 1 underwriter for the ongoing Israeli slaughter of Lebanese, the United States, likewise becomes a legitimate military target.
Every citizen in the United States should take a minute while they sit back and enjoy the relative peace of summer and reflect on what that would mean, and if it is really the direction they want the United States to be drifting at the moment. Just don’t ask the mainstream American media to assist with any reflective analysis. It is too busy promoting a larger war.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/
twolf1 @ 138
twolf - funny-funny!
Gettin’ zippy ’round here now. Have the tubes been unclogged?
jhmay @ 139
Wankette? Guess she needs more than an
ass-fucking now that she’s made the biggish time ….
(I swear I’m gonna get moderated one of these days)
http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/08.....s.ohio.ap/
2 men arrested on money laundering in support of terrorism in Marietta OH, about 90 miles south of me.
And
http://undeniableliberalism.bl.....stroy.html
F-ing Cheney. Mr. Five Deferments says (in effect) that a freely held primary election gives aid to terrorists. Chingadero!
“The sad thing is that the Jews were so busy undermining McKinney’s candidacy that they totally forgot to prop up Joe Lieberman’s.”
Right. And [channeling Sharkie] I’m Tai Shan.
Just as Israeli’s and Americans see ‘Iranian bombs’ killing Israelis. Much of the Muslim and Arab world see ‘American bombs’ killing their kindred folks.
Indeed a most dangerous game to be playing.
-GSD
I wanted to post this comment in the thread after TRex’s eloquent post, but I was too late. Heartbreaking.
From Juan Cole, some context about why we’re really letting Lebanon be razed…
Apparently, all of the casualties– civilian or not, in Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran– really are worth it, when you consider what’s really at stake: all that oil.
http://www.juancole.com/2006/0.....esale.html
re my 148 - oh, guess not, spoke too soon.
Guy on CBS asking the obvious question, so any signs the President of the United States will end his vacation and return to the White House?
Bwaahaaaaa. Where has this guy been?
Personally, I’m not high on the idea of seeing a film on 9/11, no matter how great it might be. Just not feeling like I can bear to watch those images again. And again. And again.
David E - death by mousse. What a way to go!
Lotus, you got some mail through the tooobz. I’ll be away until Saturday noon, but shoot me an email if you have any questions.
chimpy expect to comment within half hour. He is now in Green Bay. Wow, his morning Crawford bike rides are getting longer and longer.
drip, drip, drip…
New thread kids — here. Sorry things are moving slowly this morning, we’re working on a server issue.
jhmay 8:29 am — you need to look more closely at the list of late donors to the Lieberman campaign.
Wonkette needs to rethink that.
twolf1 @
129
My prediction: Within a year she’ll be doing infomercials or homeless on the streets of Atlanta.
meta @ 156
Morning folks.
Its my understanding that those images were not used in this film on purpose so as to focus the story on the two officers pulled 18th and 19th of 20 out of the rubble that the script was written around.
Uh-oh, Chimp on the air now.
Our alt site, if we really crash here:
http://windcatpond.blogspot.com/
It’s cbl’s clubhouse for us. With peach cobbler.
Fini, the clips I’ve seen show the WTC moments and I just can’t stomach that again. Unless the talking head showed a media clip and mistook it for a film clip.
jhmay @ 141
The Jews?
Do people really talk that way?
I turn the TV off when the chimp is on. I refuse to listen to a goddam thing he has to say. I’d rather be raped in prison than listen to that asshole. God DAMN I hate that piece of shit.
Kurt @ 109
No kidding!
(but I thought that was why smoking was banned on airplanes, although that is more of a long-term threat than an acute terr’rist one)
My first thought, like many of you here, was that it was awfully convenient timing for a raised terror alert. Must be election season. Part of my work requires ordering research chemicals and it is true since 9/11 that they are moderately harder to get. However, if someone really wanted something nasty (and yes, the individual components would probably look just like water) in all likelihood it wouldn’t be too hard. The chemistry isn’t that complicated. It would be nice if DHS actually had someone or someones working on this. I kind of doubt it, though. I feel SAFE!
David Ehrenstein @ 139
And to David E . . . lotus’s special “First 707 of the Day Award”!
New thread here. Got the triple post sorted out — apologies if anyone’s comment got vaporized in the process.
Fair point. Consider, though: after the primary, there may be a perceived possibility of affecting Lieberman’s independent run. Der Shrubbenfuhreradministration might only have planned to openly back Lieberman (its best bet, since the Republican candidate is already a write-off) if the primary results made it necessary to do so.
I’m still a bit surprised that Rove allowed his “we got your six, buddy” announcement to make national press if he could help it. It only helps to prove the point that Holy Joe is an administration tool and a wolf in a poorly-tailored sheep costume, and that can’t help his case.
The lead editorial in the Washington Post this am saying that Lieberman would be a “better senator for Connecticut.” Ugh! The editorial page has dismayed me more often than not. The editors were huge backers for the war in Iraq and cheered the Bush administration.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....006/08/09/
roger the lodger @ 93
If you’re talking about Janeane Garofalo, she’s been gone most of this year and officially signed off over a month ago.
Might get a little dicey on my two-hr daily commute or while I’m (supposed to be) working. Guess I’ll stick to the radio then.
As for Sam, I first heard of Ned Lamont from Sam, and he never let up his enthusiasm for him. Likewise for all the Fighting Dems he has on every Tuesday as well as other worthy candidates.
Sam is a treasure. He’s grown into his show and then some.
On the Terrorist Plot Foiled…
1. I thought Pipsqueak said he was keeping his eyeball on Osama…before he flip flopped and said he wasn’t…
2. I thought Pipsqueak said we was “Fightin’ them over there so we would’nt have to fight them over here..” I guess the Squeak forgot that Al Quaida knew about air travel…
I second all the comments about how convenient the “Terrorist” plot is so soon after Lamont won. We’re going to get a lot of that. Remember, through everything, propaganda is that which we can’t check. So, in order for it to be a real terrorist plot, you have to believe the government. Yeah, right. Just like I believe the WTC was brought down by a couple of airplanes.
medaka @
100
oops - was testing the ‘edit comment’ button - sorry for lapse in my normally profound thoughts.. ;)
Anyone who fears a teror attack is a fool. Anyone who puts any credence in tyhe color-coded terror announcemnts is a bigger fool. Anybody who believes these “Terra plot foiled” stories is too stupid to be allowed to live. If there is another “terra” attack on US soil, I promise you it will be an inside job.
Yup, I’m another one who yawned, said “just in time” and turned the channel when I heard about the “terra” attack prevented.
Team Bush really needs another attack to happen before the election - by O’Loofah’s “logic”, the GOP has now crossed the line into treason.
This one appears to have been a more serious plot than the last few “foiled”, but then again they always appear that way at first. Even money says that by tomorrow, it turns out a few Arabs planned to meet for mugs of coffee and orange juice before taking a flight to a sales conference.
Anne at 7 I agree we need to keep reminding people how this government subverts our laws, our Constitution. Yes, it is on subject but do we need to discuss Rovian strategy re: liberal bloggers being soft on terrism. Lets not take our eyes of the prize-Nov.’06 and ‘08
I disagree with the lamont ploy, i’m more inclined to think it was designed to take isreal of the front page so they can continue the destruction of lebenon, unhinderd.
lisadawn82 @
132
I hope she does have a shot. Edwards seems like her views are more in line with the majority of that district than are Wynn’s. Cripes, when was the last time Wynn had a reasonable challenger? Almost not since his very first campaign.
Remember the fruitloop Republican that kept running against him year after year? The guy’s two platforms were to 1. restrict “brothels” from being built/operated next to elementary schools and 2. to require all Maryland gun owners to buy and use the safety locks his company makes (the company is probably run out of his mother’s basement).
CODE RED STATE
We must be getting close to yet another American election cycle, with the Republican pols down in the polls ~ as we can see from here your ‘Terror Alert’ lamp is lit, (on a day when Mr. Bush & Ms. Rice would otherwise be enduring in the U.N. a humiliating defeat vis-a-vis “diplomatic efforts for cease-fire” in Lebanon, the Third Front of the War On Terrorism). And even the most careful, informed commenters, such as our own Professor Juan Cole, does write with apparent certainty:
” They were planning to hijack 6 to 10 American planes at Heathrow Airport in London, and to bring on board liquid-based explosives that they would mix while sitting in their seats. “
indeed. well, Nothing Really Happened, did it? And, we have no reason to presume the guilt or innocence of anyone apprehended thus, do we? And i daresay, since Extra! Extra! Read All About It! …everybody does know all about it anyway ~ let us begin to speculate as to WHY this nothing happened event, perpetrated by persons yet unkown, has befallen us {grin}
Well, we know that the reason is not as simple as, “They Hate Our Democracy.” That sounds like something an otherwise able but drunk seaman would say; i mean, that reason is not even reason-able.
Perhaps the reason that Nothing Happened, happened, is that Mr. Bush did, or did not do something, Over There, or Over Here ~ that he shouldn’t or should’ve. It’s all up to him, don’cha know ~ everyone else having breakfast in America, watching the “Shit Happened Show” on their empTeeVee’s is helpless, if not happy about shit that does or didn’t happen ~ We’re all just JAFO’s “Just Another Frigging Observer,” as they write on the helmets of the weapons officers on those two-man attack helicopters and fighter-bombers.
Or perhaps the reason that Nothing Happened, happened, is that those ever-vigilant secret service folks foiled a secret plot (it is more plausible, if not reasonable, n’est-ce pas ? )
But if that’s the case, we’ll never know, will we? (it’s all a secret).
And, besides, i’ve got RUBBLE FATIGUE, and even without the BANG BANG, this is “GOOD NEWS”.
(^_^)