Last night after Ned Lamont’s victory the Connecticut primary, the phone calls started pouring in from key Democrats offering their support. Frank Lautenberg, John Kerry and Barbara Boxer all called to congratulate Ned.
Boxer actually offered to come to Connecticut and campaign for Ned. Considering her close relationship with Lieberman, that is quite a concession. It is certainly not a good harbinger for Joe’s indy run.
Finally, Chris Dodd has agreed to take the lead in pushing Joe to abandon his current course of action. It’s a tough decision for Dodd and he should be commended for doing so. The three key House races in Connecticut are the most threatened by Lieberman’s indy bid; good on Dodd for showing some leadership with regard to state party politics and doing so.
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Lamont!
Ned!!!
Jane!
Barbara, you are one tall woman. Thank you for standing up for all of us. Truce.
Zero!
last thread but aprapo here as well
kerry is spot on;
“I’ve worked with Joe Lieberman since our days in college together,” Kerry said in a statement today, “and I respect his many contributions to our public life. But the Democratic Party stands for something, and the Democratic Party in Connecticut has made a choice.”
“The events of the past months make even more clear,” Kerry added, “the differences Democratic leadership would make for our country on Iraq, in making America safer, in having an economy that works for everyone, and in achieving energy independence. That’s who we are as Democrats, and that’s what we’ll be fighting for. It’s time for all Democrats to come together to support Ned Lamont. It’s time for Democrats to unite.”
It’s time for Bill and Hillary to have a long, hard talk with Delusional Joe.
He’s been asked to leave, time to go. We need a bouncer of the Democrat Party to kindly escort him to the exit and irrelevancy.
hooray FDL
great work all.
http://www.LieberDem.com
_N_
ZEP
_D_
Rules!!!
Did the watb get all his signatures for the Indy run?
New developing headline from Raw:
Dem Leader Reid: Lieberman too close to Bush,
defeat bodes well for Democrats… Developing…
OK, looks like they are going to LINE UP behind NED. They need to do this FAST.
EPUed–Breaking News: MSNBC reporting from UNITY RALLY for Ned Lamont. Chris Dodd will be there.
By the gods, Jane, get some sleep! (or at least a good mug of coffee and some pumpkin muffins) I can’t keep up with the posts this week
–that by the way was a sincere thank you for all that you do, and for keeping me informed. You truly are wonderful.
—and you’re keeping me wonderfully well distracted from this “calligraphy project that would not die!™”
meta,
yes, FAST is the operative word.
Any stragglers must be identified and remembered.
Any smart Democratic politician would get on board immediately, as it is crystal clear which way the tide is flowing now.
Yes, big unity rally scheduled for Right Now in Connecticut.
Good for Boxer. Feeling a lot better, knowing that I voted for her all those years I spent in California. Where’s Hillary? And DiFi?
Wow.
On another note: Jane, we all appreciate so very deeply all that you and Christy have done. This could not have happened without your leadership and insight.
To all the FDLer’s who have been patient with my Barbara Boxer tirades, I gladly eat crow today. I’m so thrilled to be wrong, I can’t tell you.
And to Barbara – Please, sit down, take a load off. We need you.
Sen. Boxer is my Senator. I’m not as mad at her for her Lieberman support as some of y’all are. I think it was about chits being called in more than anything and, well, that’s politics. But joey has no more chits, he use ‘em all up. Glad to see Barbie’s doing the right thing now.
Namaste, Jane. Get some sleep. Nice way to lose a few pounds;-) Think I’ll try it myself in November.
Joe is like that kinder loser guy who hangs around the party too long. You know when everyone wants to get together and chill but they’re kinda waiting for dude to finally get the hint….
BTW can somebody shake Candy Crowley? Her reporting and Anderson Cooper last nite were unbearable..
xyz @ 15
That’s FAST!! Oh, to be there…..
“Oh! Oh! Oh!” They’ll all come around. What’s to support in a reindeer that crashed and burned?
This is so much better than “Maryland Moment”.
I wrote to her last night, asking for that very thing. Not saying it was my email that did it (”Well, I wasn’t going to, but since Peterr asked me to . . .”), but then again, who knows?
Send those emails, folks. Email your senators and reps, email NARAL and PP and NOW and the Unions . . . Ned’s on a roll, and we want to take advantage of Newton’s first law of motion: keep that campaign rolling!
Those three House races have got to be big. With the potential for a three way senate race, I’m guessing that the local dems will be pushing hard to get a good turnout, which ought to help. Any chance of Joe agreeing to support those three? Or would that just be more “partisanship”?
Unity rally live on CSPAN 2 right now
Ned will speak!
Maybe Rumsfeld will step down and be replaced by Joe. Then he’ll have to drop the pretence that he’s a good Democrat.
I would like to predict that sometime before sundown on Friday, the Lieberman campaign will announce that Joe is dropping out. He will be off the radar (for the Sabbath) until late Saturday evening, it will get Sunday morning play, and then it will be all about Ned’s campaign for victory in November.
I hope.
Just got off the foam with Bill Nelson’s office, laying out exactly what JoHo’s doing and exactly how fast we want Beelly to help put the kibosh on that foolishness (i.e., right now, this very minute!).
Mommybrain 19 But joey has no more chits
…but he is still a chithead
…
Good for Dodd, talk joe out of it NOW.
Ried and Schumer are right on the money.
Make this win ALL ABOUT BUSH
Keep saying Bush
BUSH BUSH BUSH BUSH
Bush Democrat
Bush Republican
Bush Doctrine
Bush Policy
Make it a swear word!
…
meta…
No need to eat crow. Let’s dine on Joe. With lots of hot sauce. A la carte, of course.
xyz @ 25
Thank you!
“Barbara, you are one tall woman. Thank you for standing up for all of us. Truce.”
Truce, my ass. She. Was. BURIED. in email from angry constituents, clearly to the point of puckering her southern exposure down to an angstrom. She knew good and well if she didn’t do this, she was going to face a similar challenge and it probably would have been just as successful as Ned’s campaign.
She’s doing the expedient thing, there’s nothing altruistic about this, it’s just more of the same base, venal politics she did last month in CT, campaigning for Mr. Mackey’s cousin (well Lieberman DOES have Mr. Mackey’s head, dammit.).
Her form email to her pissed-off constituents didn’t make a lick of sense because it started from the implied presumption that Ned Lamont would not be as progressive as Mr. Mackey’s cousin. When I asked her in a reply, why she believed that, I got no answer. I’ll post the content of the email if someone asks to see it.
So before you give that slimeball props, understand where she started in all this.
With all the hoopla surrounding Joe’s self-serving decision, I hope Ned will keep his message and focus clear about why he ran in the first place- to represent the views of the majority on Iraq, for smart government that helps people, not the powerful, and to make a forceful critique of Dubya’s many abuses of power– and not just that he is the “real” Democrat.
What I’ve found so compelling about Ned is that he’s kept his message simple and clear, and hasn’t gotten bogged down with namecalling and strategizing. I hope he can keep it up!
Thank Barbara Boxer for getting on board with Lamont here:
info@pacforachange.com
Jane, you have helped Connecticut accomplish the first step in reclaiming our Republic for Americans. Many, many thanks from those of us coast-to-coast who’ve waited long days, nights, and years for a victory like last night’s.
GO NED!
================
Had Enough, Connecticut?
================
Oklahoma kiddo @ 31
You’re the best!
twolf1 @
29
Big *g*
A guy on Air America just made a great point. When Johnson lied us into war in Vietnam, it was the DEMOCRATS that got rid of him. We as a party have been willing to admit a mistake and take action.
Interesting history today, considering we are starting to clean house again.
The unity rally was scheduled way back, IIRC – fairly standard practice after a primary, and includes lots of other races than the senate race.
That said, it’s a great stage for Ned this morning! I hope he gives some good shouts out to the three House candidates Jane mentioned above – they’re gonna need all the support up ticket they can get, and it will just reinforce Ned’s place in the party and Joe’s place out of it.
Donna Brazile said she wished Joe would drop out of his independent run …
okay, unity rally is on RIGHT NOW on CSPAN
Dodd is speaking
(epu’d on thge last thread, so I’m repeating my comment here)
Ned Lamont’s victory reminds me of something the unforgettable Barbara Jordan (my all-time hero) said when Ann Richards first campaigned for governor of Texas:
The people are back!
Let’s make that our mantra from now through 2008.
According to Atrios and Kos, Hillary has already sent a big fat check to Lamont from ther PAC. I hope (and believe) that the Big Dog will be making some phone calls and applying pressure. He is after all, a politician first. And he doesn’t want to miss the opportunity to pick up those congressional seats … Hillary will need them when she is Prez. :)
Joe as Sec of Defense? Boer the enemy to death, now there’s a strategy…
xyz:
Yeah the ‘big’ rally is on now. I’ve never seen such a sad group in my life. they look like they’re at a funeral. And there’s no audience.
Goddam, did every Ned supporter go to sleep?
W00t, Jane!
Any chance for a nap today? :)
One thing I haven’t heard a lot about is the potential effect on voter turnout Lamont’s win might have in the fall, around the country. A lot of people don’t vote because they don’t believe their vote can make a difference. They think elections are all controlled by shadowy behind-the-scene figures (there’s a lot of truth to that view, methinks). Might Ned have awakened a sleeping giant?
OT…Jane why don’t you come to Maine for a little R&R and good home cooking? Many friends here would be happy to show you some hospitality.
Thanks for the good news!!
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 33
Before you go off on me, have you been following my posts about this issue? And as for now, my primary mission is getting NED LAMONT elected. Get it?
When can we slap around NARAL?
i guess by “big” i meant big names, not nec big crowd
Anyone else get teh impression that Joe’s dem supporters were doing it for form’s sake, and to return chits, but now that there’s no excuse, are more than happy to join Lamont? As if they actually don’t LIKE Joe Lieberman at all?
Thanks to FDL for being such a force. You were all magnificent and will undoubtedly see this thing through till Ned joins the Congress.
First rate fight.
Hope everyone here from beyond Conn. will keep up the fight in any way they can, too. Just talking about this guy Ned plants so many seeds.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
I’ll keep asking until someone answers:
WHAT SHOULD WE TELL OUR CHILDREN????
Mocha Dem — we will slap around NARAL before the day is over. Thanks for keeping your eye on that ball, it’s what got us into this race in the first place (for those who are keeping track).
I get it just fine, but I don’t want anyone thinking Boxer wouldn’t turn away in a minute if she thought it would get her more votes.
I also don’t want anyone to think it would be unjustified to challenge her in her next primary. If it weren’t for my relative poverty (not starving, but not independently wealthy) and the many skeletons in my closet (hey, I’m a musician) *I’d* think about running against her.
[breathes in deeply]AAAAAAAAhhhhhhhhhh!!! Do you smell that? I love the smell of VICTORY in the morning!
G’Morning MAJORITY DEMOCRATS!
How sweet is this headline from Time Magazine?
“The Unmaking of a Senator: How Bloggers Pulled It Off”
“With Lieberman’s primary loss, the netroots movement has established itself as a power center among Democrats. But will its influence haunt the party in November?”
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 33
I reacted much the same way to her email defense of RGJoe, and so I’m pleased to see that while she didn’t listen then, she sure is listening now. IMHO, it’s a step in the right direction, so I’ll thank her for that. Is it the whole journey? No, so let’s keep reminding her of that . . .
That’s the big thing about last night. No slight to Ned, but what happened last night has DC nervous. Boxer’s just one sign of that, and the discussions in the cloakrooms, over lunches, and over cocktails tonight will be quite interesting.
The big winners, beyond Ned, are the democrats who are running against DC insider republicans. Folks like Claire McCaskill in Missouri, running against Jim Talent. Folks like Charlie Brown here in CA, running against Doolittle. Every democrat running on a strong message of accountability got a huge lift last night, and we need to get their backs.
Keep ‘em coming, Howie, Jane, and Christy! Over the last few months, we’ve learned a lot; over the last 24 hours, we’ve proven it works.
Well that was a nice ‘eat your peas’ moment for Dodd. He ‘regrets’ the people’s choice? How nice. What a stunning endorsement. Yeah they’re rallying like crazy
1,236 DAYZ AND THE KILLIN’ GOEZ ON AND ON AND…
Citizen Hamsher:
I think that those who are worried that a Lieberman run would endanger congressional candidates are simply wrong. As long as Lieberman is in the race he unites Democrats both in the state of Connecticut and, ironically, in the nation and focuses attention against Bush and Bush fascism. People need to see the common enemy and find common ground to vote against the bad guys…Lieberman will do what Rove and the fascists have adroitly avoided fer 6 years, he will focus people against Bush and the whole Bush-fascist nightmare. I think if Lieberman stays in the race we will see a concerted effort on the part of the fascists to separate themselves from him.
Remember, people first need ta have somethin’ ta vote against in order to find commonality to vote FOR someone or some set of common values.
KEEP THE FAITH, OUR DOG IS BIGGER’N THEIRS!!!
I’m thinking Joe is going to find the senate verrrrry unfriendly, as all of the senate democrats, and the leadership, will be campaigning for Ned. His relationships with his colleagues are going to be strained, at the least, destroyed more likely.
Joe will be feeling more and more isolated and friendless. I don’t think that’s sustainable for himpersonally, especially as there will be the carrot of “respect and admiration for his being a statesman and accepting the will of the people gracefully” hanging out there.
He will drop out.
considering the English defeated the Boers in 1902 …
One WANG CHUNGed skeezer down, umpty-ump to go … after Jane’s vacation and Christy’s massage!
evap @ 26
evap: okay, Chimpy’s dim — but dim enough to wanna sell as SecDef the putz who can’t even keep his measly little campaign website functional?
Hmm. Good question, lotus. Why, thank you.
Josh has a good commentary up on the Time website:
http://www.time.com/time/natio…..52,00.html
OH BABY…THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING AOBUT
make BUSH a swear word, make NEO CON a SWEAR WORD, invite the REAL REPUBLICANS to reclaim their ideals
a slight edit on the reid statement would be along those lines;
I would have preferred the reid shummer statement to read;(emobldened are the changes
Joe Lieberman has been an effective Democratic Senator for Connecticut and for America. But the perception was that he was too close to George Bush and what his policies have done to this country
this election was, in many respects, a referendum on the President’s polices which have deconstructed this republic, her sanctity, her economy, her our armed forces, and the respect around the world we once enjoyed as an inpartial broker of world events more than anything else.
uhyup
We cannot have Lamont-Lieberman II sucking all the oxygen out of the three CT congressional races the way round I did. Joe is basically running a sabotage campaign.
*ilson46201 @
40
Who cares what Donna Brazile thinks?
Bunch of shell-shocked Connecticut Democrat insiders on stage with Ned on CSpan.
Dodd is probably still being nice to Lieberman b/c they are all trying to politely convince him to get out. IMO, probably the right strategy. If HoJo resists for much longer, I truly hope the gloves come off.
Jane, I spoke to Donita last night, she was so wound up it was hilarious! She did a major victory dance and said shes planning a special Spin this week. She also told me to pass along to you her thank you and her sentiment she hopes you’ll get some rest.
A word for Boxer…
She deserves mucho credit for her PAC For A Change. I get emails from her regularly, asking for votes each time they are deciding who next to support financially. (And if I don’t respond, I get a reminder! …whether I can afford to make a contribution or not.) The most recent one announced that Clair McCaskill will be getting support in her race against Jim Talent.
I’m not even one of Boxer’s constitutents, but I give her credit for combining new technology and small-d democratic principles.
If you don’t get her emails, you might want to.
Out here in California we are waiting to hear from our Senior
Senator Diane Feinstein to come out in support of Ned Lamont.
Or is she a siamese twin of Joe turncoat. Time will tell.
She too can be challenged if her boat does not change direction.
dodd on msnbc
Just want to say it again: give it till the weekend to let the Senate Dems do their work. There’ll be lots of public appearances, lots of public statements, and lots of behind-the-scenes talk. You’ll also have the gasbags giving elegies on Joe’s political career.
The Senate’s in recess now, so demanding committee re-assignments and immediate punitive action towards HoJo may make it harder for him to listen to a few days of the chickens coming home to roost.
Guitar Playing Bastard @ 55
After what this country and the world have been through the last 6 very long years, I have absofuckinglutely no intention of taking anything for granted. I am watching these people like a hawk. Boxer is my senator, but I’m watching all of them. Accountability is on the table, thanks to CT and the rabid internet.
I appreciate your opinion. I believe we are fighting for the same thing.
Yea, Jane Hamsher!!!
Way to go, Jane!!! You have done us proud . . .
But NOW — you need several naps, followed by 10 or 12 hours of sleep.
Recharge your batteries, then Go Get ‘Em, Tiger!!!
jr @ 53
Once upon a time, there was a little guy named Ned. Ned was sad, because things were not well in his town. People were dying in a war that nobody really wants. People were not getting the medicines they needed. People were not getting the education they needed. And most of all, people were not getting the leaders they needed to change things.
So Ned stood up, and asked to be a leader. Everyone said he had no chance. Everyone said he would never win. Everyone said he should sit down and be quiet.
But Ned found some people who listened to him. Ned found some friends to help spread his ideas. Ned found some friends who stood up with him.
And when election day came, Ned and his friends won. The old leader didn’t like it, but that’s what happened. Ned and his friends won.
Reid, Schumer applaud Lamont victory
“I reacted much the same way to her email defense of RGJoe, and so I’m pleased to see that while she didn’t listen then, she sure is listening now. IMHO, it’s a step in the right direction, so I’ll thank her for that. Is it the whole journey? No, so let’s keep reminding her of that . . .”
Indeed.
Also, Let’s not forget the campaign of progressive Democrat Jon Tester in Montana, running against the reprehsnsible lizard Conrad Burns. Donate to Jon’s campaign too. Get the ‘Netroots going for him. Montana is becoming a blue state, they swept to power in the state government, let’s help them finish the job over there. Take a look at what’s happening out in the Big Sky country.
chris dodd’s a smarmy beneficiary of nepotism — that’s why he sucks up to colleagues who’ve been in office a long time: he’s been nurtured in the placeholder environment where longevity & seniority are what counts
llamajockey @
9
time for Joe to ramble on…
I think Lamont is REALLY going to help galvanize the Dems message… the next 5 days will probably be very revealing…
oh, the spin they are in!
It is great that Boxer called Lamont to congratulate him and even offer to stump for him.
However, let’s face it, this is not enough. In order to give Lamont the best chance of winning, Lieberman needs to be out of the race completely.
It is shameful that he continues to campaign and claim he is a Democrat (as he did today on “Today”).
We need to keep the pressure on. Boxer’s recent actions have to have been a result of our pressure on her to act. I wrote to her yesterday as well (as I am sure many other Californians did last night).
It is not enough for her to campaign for Lamont. She and the rest of the Senate and Congressional Dems need to pressure Lieberman to abandon his selfish campaign.
Don’t let up folks. Keep calling and writing to your Democrat senators. We need Loserman out.
jr @ 53
Do you understand how annoying it is whenever someone uses The Children {C}{TM} as a political prop? I really wish Dems would quit using that device to frame things, no one in their right mind wants to harm children and pearl clutching on behalf of The Children {C}{TM} just makes us look ridiculous IMHO.
“For the sake of our state, our country and my party, I cannot and will not let that result stand.”
____
The Democratic Party must be made to take an explicit stand on Leaverman’s statement. NOW.
Goddammit, we can’t get this done fast enough!
Center for war-related brain injuries faces budget cut
meta @ 75
I agree with this psot. :-)
Man, so much of the chattering about Joe-nertia from the MSM today sounds Shakespearian: …I come to bury Caesar, not to praise him…
Anyhow, I think we need to ratchet down the anger towards Boxer a tad, long enough to stay focused on our mission.
It’s carrots-and-sticks time, gang. We’ve beat Boxer, flayed her with switches until bloody — and she got it, clued in. Maybe somebody else got to her more directly, like Reid, but it was still with the use of those sticks applied to Reid’s backside if he or any other Dem got Boxer to snap right around.
And now it’s time for carrots. We only need to simply say that we acknowledge and appreciate her support of Ned Lamont as the Democratic Senatorial candidate chosen by the people of Connecticut. Were she to receive hundreds or thousands of these messages, it would reinforce her position and help her check any desire to backslide.
Capice? It costs us little, but the return could be great.
No Cocoa-Puffs for you, Joe. Mmmmm, momentum:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/…..26850.html
Colbert withdraws invitation!
With Joe losing and shining the light on “Bush Love,” this could be the moment of “testiculogenesis” (trademark Josh Marshall Heavy Industries, Gmbh). This moment of truth, a light that shows that the people have spoken and that the leaders finally get it.
Could the be? Am I getting ahead of myself?
Prolly.
But hope feels good. Don’t harsh my mellow right now…
Pelosi Statement on Connecticut Senate Race
“Last night, Connecticut voters sent a clear message for change, rejecting President Bush’s failed policies. Voters in Connecticut and across the nation are seeking a new direction to make America safer, our economy stronger, and to broaden opportunity for all.
“I respect the decision of the voters and endorse the Democratic candidate, Ned Lamont, and look forward to working with him for a great congressional victory in Connecticut.”
I can’t understand why our party leadership, in Connecticut in this current example, can’t run a UNITY RALLY worth a damn. This CSpan broadcast is ridiculous — several Dem leaders have said “I support Joe Lieberman, er, Ned Lamont.”
Is there an audience or are they clapping for themselves?
NED ON CSPAN NOW
punaise @
81
…climbing that staircase to the land of ice and snow?
Graceful and real, our Ned.
In Salon Glenn Greenwald is quite brilliant and succinct about everything that’s wrong with Joe:
http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/
Glenn Greenwald subbing at Salon.com War Room:
Ned was great.
Questions now.
poor Ned must be exhausted but he spoke well !
Mommybrain @ 95
when the (electoral) levee breaks…
Dodd sez he has not talked with RGJoe this morning.
Has not asked RGJoe to back out. “I’ll be more positive, I’ll be urging people to support Ned Lamont.”
karelroc @ 83
BINGO! Barbara Boxer shouted us down when it mattered http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kDKl3oRU0g
So, does she really want to make amends? Then she should step up, and get Lieberman to step down. Otherwise, her new found support for Ned Lamont rings hollow and all I see is Boxer covering her ass. I’m still disappointed in Boxer’s actions. The way she ignored my and many other emails asking her to reconsider her plans until after the deed was done.
I want better people in the Senate. That’s why I supported Ned Lamont in the first place.
Has anyone noticed something odd in the MSM lately? Josh is in Time, Glenn is at Salon, what is going on? Has the MSM figured out there are fantastic Dems who can write?
Did Dodd really say he ‘regrets’ the voters’ decision? What a fool. Like he wants those votes himself doesn’t he?
What in the world do they do behind closed doors – enter a blood oath or something? I supposed it is like having your best friend and co-worker get fired. Do you work with the new guy? Make a choice I say. Help your friend deal behind the scenes but help the new guy on the job.
Get with the program Dodd.
Dodd sounds like he’s got the meme, but his enthusiasm for Ned is not what it should be…
Joe needs to go over the hills and far away: CT voters didn’t show him a whole lotta love
punaise — observez les armatures incluses !
That guy on CSPAN behind Dodd looks like Ted Kennedy, that’s not him is it?
punaise @
107
ah ah!
ah ah
*ilson46201 @ 108
justement – my last comment tamed the ziggurat, n’est-ce pas?
Fini — he sure looks like EMK, but it’s CT Congressman John Larson.
(That didn’t work. Was supposed to look like a musical scale thingy)
Glad you broke the frame before it broke the comments again!
UN Ambassador John Bolton speaking outside the Security Council on CNN. Not sure why yet.
Love child, never meant to be
Love child, (scorned by) society
Love child, always second best
Love child, different from the rest
Not Kennedy- but there are reports he was one of the first to call, congratulate, & support Ned.
When it comes to Joe, it’s best to heed the words of the great Delbert McClinton – “Don’t let the smooth talk fool ya, don’t let the sharks get to ya, don’t let those small minds, out there on prime time, take a chunk out of you – don’t let the smooth talk fool ya”
The people of CT didn’t let Mr. Mackey’s cousin take a chunk out of them. YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
Morning Firehounds!
I’m putting together an Excel spreadsheet with US Senators who have come vocally in support of Ned, and how mucy money they (or any affiliated to them direct PAC) have donated to his campaign. I’ll make it available later today. I’ll probably add other data to it in the future, like how they’ve voted on issues of interest. I’m only tracking US SENATORS…if someone else wants to track House members or anything else, have fun :)
I just sent an email to Ken Nighthorse Salazar, urging him to make an unqualified statement of support for Lamont.
We’ll see.
Mommybrain @ 177
Hey Mommybrain!
What can I say I’m a plumber in real life, so the real pipes we rely on are of a certain significance to me. I’ve noticed the dropping of the w in many of the ids here and am sympathetic but I really am Jeffrey W and no damn Bush is going to take that from me.
(Comment number referenced above is from last thread–I won’t drag it up here but I will restate the gist: Click on the donation links and give to the site. We need to upgrade this place to handle the traffic. I need my FDL!)
I really cannot fucking believe Ned Lamont won. I have not felt this way since, oh, November 1992 or maybe even November 1976.
Certainly RGJoe cannot and will not spoil this moment for me. Go, Joe, GO!
Ziggurat? No, I don’t smoke.
-GSD
Dodd said he regrets Mr. Mackey’s Cousin’s decision to continue running, not the voters’ decision. Even Dodd isn’t stupid enough to say that.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 114
He wants to invade Connecticut for Joe
Republicans should not shy away from giving a well deserved public KISS to their agent sabotuer as the their relation ship with Lieberman is in public domain now.
TeddySanFran @ 121
That’s what I’m feeling, November 1992 all over again. The exhilaration of Big Dog’s win is something I have not felt before or since until last night. I felt the same hopeful feeling then as I do now.
Today is a very good day.
On this day in 480 BC, the Persians took down the Spartans. (The Spartan pundits were not amused.)
On this day in 378, the Visigoths beat the Romans in the battle of Adrianople. (The Roman military experts were perplexed at how this could have happened, what with having the finest military in the world and all.)
On this day in 1854, Henry David Thoreau published “Walden”. (The industrialists were amused. At the time.)
On this day in 1936, Jesse Owens won his fourth gold medal in the Berlin Olympics. (Hitler was definitely not amused.)
On this day in 1942, the British arrested Ghandi. (Ghandi was clearly amused at this inefficient use of power.)
On this day in 2006, Ned Lamont celebrated his victory.
Yeah, it’s a very good day.
I am one of Boxer’s constituants. I just don’t think her ’support’ for Lieberman was a big deal. I think she was asked to help a fellow Democratic senator and felt obligated to do so. I also think the reason she was asked(a Senator from California) was that she went to YearlyKos and spoke there.
I doubt that we will see it from any of the big media outlets, but the story that really needs to be written is how Lamont managed to win in spite of the enormous structural advantages that Lieberman enjoyed. Viewed in that context, this was an awesome victory.
Lieberman had the visibility and prestige of being a Vice-Presidential contender; a 3-term incumbent with all of the advantages that come with incumbency; a $12 million warchest; 4000 paid staffers on the ground, the support of big unions like AFL-CIO and all the resources they can devote to an election; the support of the DLC, the DSSC and the whole Democratic establishment apparatus; and finally, appearances and endorsements from the very popular ex-President Bill Clinton and Senator Barbara Boxer.
And somehow Lieberman managed to lose the game in spite of the fact that we was standing on third base when this thing began.
Prairie Sunshine @
64
Very good article. Ironic related footnote about Lieberman’s loss last night. It is said that the once again great Al Gore lost his home state TN in 2000 because he too was out of touch with the constituents who had strongly supported him in the 1980s and 1992. He was described, fairly or not, to have become “more Washington than Carthage” during his vice-presidency. I hope to see Gore on board with Lamont real soon.
What a bunch of WATB’s in that unity presser– wailing for the wunnerful senator from CT and his wifey Hadassah and their legacy.
blergh.
Get over it– he lost and so will you if you don’t get with the program. WE have had enough.
(NED was great, though!)
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Can anybody photoshop this with Joe’s picture instead of newts?
The pundit class must be realizing that their magic spell has been broken.
They fought for Joe, now they are fighting to make the “lesson” of the election the “angry left–no moderates allowed party”.
But of course, with the election loss of Cynthia MccKinney for a more moderate Dem and also with the Michigan establishment Republican loss(Bush and McCain supported this loser) and he was beaten by the far right wing candidate..It is a twofer.
#1) Throw the bums
#2) Lame duck Bush
Spin all you wan’t pundits, your magic wand is smashed to hell.
-GSD
jr @
53
Just tell them the truth. People cheat, people do the wrong thing, people lie. It isn’t the way we live, but it happens.
I agree with everyone here who realizes that more is needed than simply having all the relevant Dems endorse Lamont.
What is needed is for all the Dems who came out in droves to support Lieberman to now step up and do the right thing (which is to tell Lieberman it is time to go)
By the way, if the quotes of Chris Dodd are correct, I think his approach is as chickenshit as they come.
Dodd is public ly supporting Lamont but appears to be shaking hands with Lieberman behind the curtains. Common!!!!!
Not one of those Connecticut Dems would commit to speaking personally with RGJoe to talk him out of this lunacy.
Senator Mulligan.
Senator Do-Over.
Hey, RGJoe, why don’t you visit Eye-Wrack again, where they can explain DEMOCRACY to you. It’s “on-the-march,” RGJoe, so get outta the way!
Close only counts in nuclear wars and horseshoes, RGJoe. “Gotta go, Joe”
Having been involved in petition signing efforts, I agree that 18,000 for a 7,500 requirement may not be a real margin, especially considering the possibility for error, duplication, and fraud in an under-the-radar effort like RGJoe’s.
Connecticut Democrats, please ask your party to fund a challenge to these signatures. Ned can’t pay for EVERYTHING outta that trust fund, y’know!
There;s a song by the great Delbert McClinton I think sums up what we had in the Lamont race. it struck me as I was listening to the other Delbert song I mentioned.
Everyone here should listen to it. It’s called “Leap of Faith.” in that song, there’s a great line that certainly applies to us
“Sometimes you got to believe before you see the proof – you can wait a lifetime for a moment of truth…sometimes all it takes, is a leap of faith.”
We all made a leap of faith, in believing we could topple Mr. Mackey’s cousin. We didn’t have to wait a lifetime for our moment of truth…but NOW…we must KEEP the faith. And spread our new-found power to many other candidates.
If Lieberman is so strong on defense, why couldn’t he save this kitten? Other people had to do Joe’s work for him.
No wonder he lost.
.
Being from CT, I’ll just say that I’ve seen this song and dance before. When Curry ran for gov the Dem establishment all sat on their hands. That’s what they’re going to do this time.They are pissed as hell, and it shows in this grudging little so-called rally. They’re just waiting for the bloggers to go home. Then they just figure that they’ll be able to let Lamont die on the vine. Ugh, what a bunch.
Peterr @
127
Yesterday was the same day as Nixon’s resignation. Some of us in comments agreed August 8th should be from here on known as Democracy Restoration Day. Maybe today should be known as Insurgents Victory Day.
Boxer certainly strayed off the reservation for a while there, but I’m glad she’s back. Sure, there was a calling in of chits, but she could have toned it down a bit: Sir Galahad? Come on.
Anyway, she can atone for it with enthusiastic support for Ned and with pressure on Reid to put the squeeze on Joe.
Has anyone noticed something odd in the MSM lately? Josh is in Time, Glenn is at Salon, what is going on? Has the MSM figured out there are fantastic Dems who can write?
Um, Fini, Glenn isn’t a Dem or a Rep but pure Indy. He does, however, want his country back.
My gut feeling is that a lot of the inner beltway types will not be so sad to see Lieberlooser go.
We bagan to see a crack in his affable veneer in ‘04. We saw it peel and chip over the last two years, and saw him naked last night in that sanctimonious arrogant “concession” speech.
It doesn’t take much to imagine how he dealt with staff and colleagues in the Senate. Considering his 18 year incumbancy, it actually amazing that more of the Dem leaders didn’t go all out to support him. Even Boxer’s support that day in CT was pretty tense and restrained.
cosmo @ 129
ditto! (are we allowed to say ditto here?)
punaise @ 98
Spot on. Thanks punaise
Sir Galahad had chinks in his armor …
At the very least, Bill has to get Joe to stop saying he is a Clinton Democrat.
Clinton was a popular president, Joe. You were beaen by your own party.
Adie, thank you for your words of encouragement, from another Ohio gal. I was raised on Matthew 25, feed the hungry, help the sick etc. Reaction? Good list, let’s get to work.
I am the happy beneficiary of the ministry of encouragement. If you can’t go out there yourself, then provide encouragement for people like Jane and Christy and Pach and CTBob and spazeboy that do go into the lions’ den. Speaking personally I would not be alive to do my work, let alone how far we have gotten in our program, without this love. [ref–video–the fifth element, that’s me]
When our minister asked me to speak to the congregation about my work in Russia, I talked some about loving your enemy, but more about the ministry of encouragement. EVERYONE can do this. I thank you deeply. Boris’s parents, and the parents of the next 2,000 kids we help, also thank you. Team effort.
And now you guys are part of the team. Welcome, and thank you on behalf of desperate parents from Russia and surrounding countries.
The day is young. Can we stop Lierman from filing as an “independent”? Videos? Protest signs about his RUNNING AGAINST THE DEMOCRAT WHO WON THE PRIMARY?
I hear about this sweet thing called sleep. Is it accessible? Jetlag plus bipolar => sleep, not so much. Oh well. Can sleep peacefully when we have retaken Congress.
RGJoe should resign his Senate seat to allow the GOP governor to appoint Alan Schlessinger, the Republican candidate. That’d level the playing field….
If Joe is so strong on Defense, how come his web site was wide open to attack?
Lotus,
Whether Glenn is a Dem or not. The blogs have arrived and they won’t be marginalized anymore no matter what Karl Rove or Tony Snow say.
-GSD
Fini — yeah. I noticed. It’s been creeping, but last night opened the floodgates.
Bloggers ARE the media.
The challenge is not to allow them to assimilate us, but to assimilate them.
Franken is talking about Lieberman now, chastising him.
If I were a betting man, I’d say he’ll drop out by Friday. The 3-way candidate polls really don’t reflect much reality. Unlike he himself, I find it hard to believe that democratic voters in Connecticut will so easily abandon their party…especially for a “three time loser.” I think this will become evident very quickly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v…..mp;search=
It’s actually a bit sad. He could have walked away from this with some shred of dignity. Instead I think he’s just sealed his fate as a simply pathetic character.
Those who wish to ponder the meaning of this may want to review the plot to this grand german opera.
I understand the NedTeam has long been prepared to challenge signature-by-signature those petitions … http://www.CT4Joe.com
OT.
Remember when Ann Coulter predicted that a Kerry win would increase the sales of body bags?
Well, the sales of suitcases in Iraq are through the roof.
Can you say exodus, movement of the people.
Annie, How do you like them apples?
http://www.rawstory.com/showar…..8LS80.html
-GSD
Kak @ 143
you’re welcome. best part:
Here’s a good link. Check out the list of Democratic heavyweights whose support Lieberman will NOT have if he goes forward with his campaign into the general election in November.
http://unendorsed.blogspot.com/
Last night I ended up watching Hannity and Colmes for a little while because CNN, MSNBC, CNN/HL were all doing ME coverage and not mentioning the CT primary. Faux sNooze was. Hannity was bloviating with an on-site commenter who was lamenting the imminent demise of HoJo. One of the things he said in his lament was that if ‘these people’ [that’s US] would put 10% of the effort into beating vulnerable GOoPers that has been put into this primary, the Democrats would take over the Senate.
I need to respond to that. I want to know what makes him think that we won’t put all the same effort into every contested race in November? I’m going to vote for Bingaman (reluctantly) here in NM and hope that he gets the CT message.
Fellow Citizens, step one is completed. Now we move on to step two, the general election. We throw the self-righteous, self-centered, self-serving bastards out. We have to get past the common attitude that they’re all crooks but my congresscritters. They aren’t all crooks, but lord knows there are way too many crooks carrying both party labels. Mister Jefferson of Louisiana, you’ve got to go. Mister Pearce of New Mexico, it’s time to return to your o’lfield supply bidness. Mrs Wilson of New Mexico, it’s time for you to stop triangulating and actually use that law degree you earned from our University.
BC
Absolutely Rayne,
We have to wag their dogs.
-GSD
Rayne @ 151
That’s beginning to happen. The narrative I am hearing this AM as I monitor the punditocracy has been changed from pearl clutching, breathless, OMG-the-blawgerzzz-are-coming!!! to the netroots have arrived as a political force. We have become a force unto ourselves in the Democratic Party. No candidate can ignore us now, we are like trying to run against the unions or being anti-gay/pro-life and trying to run as a Dem.
Great article by Greenwald – Thought this quote was right on target: “The only cause that seems to stir Joe Lieberman to anger, aggression and confrontation is the glorious struggle for Joe Lieberman to cling to his Senate seat.”
Just read a piece posted yesterday on CNN.com about the Lierman web kerfuffle was appalled that the Lieberman campaign would really make the type of vicious and unsubstantiated charges they made about the site crashing.
First of all, you know those charges weren’t made without Lierman’s complete approval.
Who the hell is this Smith character? Did he really work on the Kerry campaign because I don’t remember seeing his name anywhere? And I’ll be real curious which Dem is next to hire him. He and Rove are soul mates.
(snip)
The Web site, http://www.joe2006.com, has been unavailable since Monday afternoon. Lieberman campaign manager Sean Smith suggested that the campaign of the senator’s primary opponent, Ned Lamont, or his supporters were responsible for the disruption.
“This type of dirty politics has been a staple of the Lamont campaign from the beginning, from the nonstop personal attacks to the intimidation tactics and offensive displays to these coordinated efforts to disable our Web site,” said Smith in a statement e-mailed to reporters Monday evening.
“There is no place for these Rovian tactics in Democratic politics, and we demand that our opponent call off his supporters and their online attack dogs.”
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..index.html
This piece inspired me to write to my Senator the following (email & fax):
August 9, 2006 via fax: (202) 228-3954
Senator Dianne Feinstein
United States Senate
331 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Dear Senator Feinstein:
Please call Democratic Senate candidate Ned Lamont to offer your support, and attempt to persuade Joe Lieberman to not run against the Democratic Party in the Fall.
Last night after Ned Lamont’s primary victory in Connecticut key Democrats congratulated him and offered their support, including Frank Lautenberg, John Kerry, and your colleague from California Barbara Boxer. Sen. Boxer offered to come to Connecticut and campaign for Ned Lamont for the November election.
Thank you,
…
PS And please support a US commitment to withdraw from Iraq on a specific timetable!
Sorry late to the morning-after partayyy.
Apologies if stuff below has already been covered, but…
While running errands this a.m., I found Diane Rehm on local NPR (n.e.OH).
What I was able to catch of the show sounded just DANDY! (-uh- about that name-recognition problem – NOT! yeehaw!)
I pasted details below from her website. I hope that segment is repeated, &/or archived. LOVE to hear it in full!
YAHOO NED & FDL! AND BOXER, REID and??? (lotta catching up to do…pant pant)
………….
Diane Rehm Show Wed Aug. 9
10:00Lieberman-Lamont primary race in Connecticut
Several political analysts share their perspectives on Democratic primary race results in Connecticut and other high profile contests across the country.
Guests
Celinda Lake, Democratic strategist and president, Lake Research Partners
Susan Page, Washington bureau chief for “USA Today”
E.J. Dionne, Washington Post columnist, senior fellow at The Brookings Institution, and author of “Stand Up Fight Back.”
It is time for Joe to go to the ranch. A little fresh air while helping his honey cut some brush will get him back on his feet.
G Moff,
How y’all doin’ ? was just wondering after you yesterday, thinking I hadn’t seen you over at Gilliard’s or here for quite some time. Interesting you show up in a thread that quotes both Barbara Jordan and Delbert McClinton *g*
bookmarked your site and will see if I can lend a hand to some of the TX progressives there as my schedule loosens up in the coming weeks
new Greenwald post at Salon.com:
new thread
Oklahoma kiddo @
16
I don’t know about DiFi, but Hillary pledged last night to cut a check from her campaign funds for Ned Lamont.
Actually if you consider this in true Rovian/Machiavellian terms, there could be much to be gained from a Lieberman run as an independent. It would (I think) fracture the US Jewish community pretty dramatically, and finally force a very public confrontation between the AIPAC/Likud/NeoCon wing and the more liberal, moderate majority. Given what’s occuring in the Middle East right now, not sure this wouldn’t be a good thing in the long run.
Having said that, I’m pretty sure Joe will drop out gracefully within the week anyway. Much too dangerous for him and his wife’s lobbying interests. Economics will prevail over ego.
Mommybrain and all other fdl sympathetic folk–
Thank you from the bottom of my heart (that would be the ventricles :) for all your love, support, prayers, encouragement, and perspective.
IT MATTERS.
Ministry of encouragement: everyone can do this. Speaking as the fortunate recipient, it is so important. Please think about how you can support people who are out there making things happen. Paypal button for fdl would be an excellent start. Letters to politicians who are doing the right thing. Comments in support of people working behind the scenes like Pach. Checking in with fragile people in your family or neighborhood.
THE WORLD NEEDS YOU
Sleep, perchance to dream?
On the record Joe:
LIEBERMAN: … In the end, my own feeling is, looking at the polls, but intuiting, based on people I talk to, is that, although Senator Kerry got a lot of votes, 56 million votes, more than any Democratic candidate for president in history, but there’s no prizes for second place in American politics.
-GSD
Congratulations to the people of Connecticut for taking the lead to take America back to its ideals and having the strength to push back against the Bush fiasco. We will follow the good citizens of Connecticut!
Guitar @ 33 –
Amen! Boxer is my senator, too. After she campaigned for Holy Joe, I wrote her a scathing letter. I told her she was my favorite senator, but that did not excuse her AND that I would work to throw HER ass out too, if need be.
The time for looking at past actions is OVER.
Looks like I got deleted – I didn’t mean to offend – If I did, I apologize.
lotus @ 86
Lotus, thank you for posting that link. By the gods, I’m furious that this isn’t getting more funding. Yet this Congress, Administration, and Pentagon support our troops…*hacks up a huge beardly hairball*
ragz at 173 — that was me. I wasn’t quite sure where you were going with that comment. And I’m exhausted this morning and haven’t had nearly enough coffee to overcome that — so if I was too trigger happy, forgive me. We’ve been hit with an inordinate amount of trollage and keeping up with it is a full time job these days. SIGH
SF Chronicle above-the-fold front page headline:
“LIEBERMAN LOSES”
The problem? The accomanying large photo shows a smiling Joe surrounded by applauding supporters – from his concession speech. Small photo of Ned below the fold. Mixed message!
evap at 26
You ever notice that rummy never sweats?
Indie’doh’Joe, on the other hand, looks like a limp dishrag most of the time.
surely rover’s noticed & caught the face-shooter’s ear on the matter.
I’ll believe Lierman in that position when it happens &, even then, I’ll be watching the second hand on my watch…
After reading a number of quotes from the talking heads from the wingnutosphere, it occurred to me that Lieberman is still giving the Republicans cover. We all noticed the talking heads on the right making nice regarding poor Joe.
I would say that it is less about Joe and more about the idea that the “left-wing” has taken over the Democratic party. Poor Joe is just a symptom of a terrible thing happening to the Democratic party. That is what the Republicans are running on and that is Joe giving them cover with his independent run.
If Lieberman had a clue, he would drop the independent race as he is being used as a symbol by the Republicans when they are desperate to reframe their fuckups and criminal conduct. Lieberman could make a public statement that in seeing how the Republicans are using his independent race to paint the Democratic party as weak and taken over by the fringe, he is going to support the Democratic party and its honor by dropping his independent run.
….well, a girl can dream, can’t she?
lotus @ 142
EPU’d, but what the heck . . .
Glenn’s a Patriot. With a capital P.
Christy Hardin Smith @
176
I understand – you do a great job!
Ohhhhhh Peterr at 77
You’re so special. Thankyou! ;->
(((((peace)))))
Please, please, please, pleaese . . .
Bush! Stop clearing brush and start kissing a few more deadbeat incumbents and all the rubber stamp repuglicans (while cameras and videos are on).
*ilson at 99
I was thinking the same! The guy must be made of titanium, yet with a wonderful warm heart.
He must be so-o-o tired. But you can’t tell.
Just smooth, articulate, confident, caring, appreciative, gracious, did I say CONFIDENT(?!) – READY to step right into the Senate w/o breaking stride. ;->
Seems to me, it’s a lot harder to be a graceful winner than a graceful loser), especially after such a long hard battle.
(hint hint, Joe? Would it just destroy ya to handle your loss with a little class?)
thanks to fdl, whose dynamism shows we’re none of us alone, i’m starting to think maybe by 2008 we can get rid of tubby w’s team: chubby cheney, condorella, muskrat-pate bolton etc but am still leery of an october stunt this year — will we attack iran?
PKC, exactly right. I’m certain the voices in Joe’s ear telling him he “must” run are all Republican. It sets up the frame of “those terrible, left wing maniacs, who pushed Joe Lieberman out.”
LindyH…
Hillary cut a check for Lamont. Didn’t know that. Good for her. Now, if she would just come on board about the Bush Iraq war. Will vote for Clinton in 2008 if she’s “the one”. But I do so wish she felt differently about the Bush War. However, in the interest of consistency, how does she support Lamont (anti-Iraq war to the bone) and be pro- Bush/Iraq at the same time? Am I being picky here?
Sam @ 72
I live in California also. Who cares what Feinstein decides. She is useless and needs to be outed just like Liberman. I call her a Rodney King Democrat because her rally cry is “Can’t we all get along” Democrat. She voted for the Iraq war and has pissed all over the back of the middle class. She has helped put us on the road to destruction. It is time to “Liberman” her!
Speaking of California, I work in downtown SF and I was coming back from getting my coffee just now when some kids (twentysomethings) who work in a NARAL office downstairs approached me outside the door. They had some signs and a digital camera and asked me if I’d be willing to pose for some project they were doing.
When they told me they were from NARAL I told them “I’m not a big fan of NARAL right now,” and he asked why. “The Lieberman thing, you know,” to which all three kind of agreed and he said “fair enough.”
So I do my tiny part way out here. Joe’s influence is cast far and wide! :)
Guitar Playing Bastard @
122
I think that bears repeating.
I just got this great vision of Dodd taking Joe to the woodshed consiglieri-style:
Dodd approaches and reaches his hand to Joe’s shoulder, funnels him up and continues walking. Chris leans in and softly speaks into Joe’s ear.
“If you do this, we’re coming after you, Joe. You wanna be Zell Miller? There’s still room for you at the table, Joe. If you do this it’s forever gonna be a table for one.”
He drops his arm and continues walking.
I’m unsure as to where these reports of Boxer supportting Lamont and offerring to campaign for him are comming from. I am a constituent of Boxers in SF and have called her office her and in DC and they say she has made no statements on this issue of Lamont. That was at 845 am California time. Can someone please post an actual link with proof of this? Her staff member at the SF office had no information and so far it seems to be heresay.
This is good to hear. I’m glad they called and very nice of Boxer and Dodd. I hope Dodd can do this task. It’s going to be tough for him I’m sure to convience Joe since he’s so far up his ego. Heh. Go Lamont!
beemer @ 67
Who cares what Donna Brazile thinks?
Thank you! The woman ran a horrible campaign for Al Gore. Somebody tell her to go home. Loser.
Boxer is my senator as well, but I am still po’d that she became status quo like the rest of these sinecured politicians. There is no entitlement to a political seat, and that is the message that should come out of the Lamont victory.
Lantos and DiFi beware. Just because they didn’t have a suitable opponent in their primaries doesn’t mean they can cruise indefinitely. I personally plan to withhold my vote for them in Nov. The best message that consituents can give these sinecured out-of-touch elites is to drastically reduce their margins of victory, putting them on notice.
Those you you who said let up on the anger at Boxer better read this:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0809.html
That fucking bitch, I believe she needs to be the next target.
guitarplaying bastard -33
I’m with you completely regarding Barbara Boxer – long before she slipped into CT in Big Dog’s wake on that recent Monday morning she was innundated with letters, emails and phone calls from constituents including all of the above from me. Concerned staff at her offices on both coasts – who had to deal with what one staffer reported to me was an unprecedented constituent out cry were shocked at her anger and berating and inexplicable defense of her CT visit on behalf of Leiberman. This, despite the backlash her staff were enduring from polite and not so polite donor constituents throughout the state.
Take it from this old lifetime democrat who once loved and trusted and worked my heart out for Sen. Boxer – she still doesn’t get it. At this writing I’m not sure she ever will.
Trust but verify is my mantra where she is concerned – we’re stuck with her until 2010 – and this old newspaper brat will continue to hope Sen. Boxer “gets it” but sadly I am not confident she will.
I’m just saying it is wise of all we constituents to watch her like a hawk and hold her feet to the fire before going all romantic with absurb emotional knee jerk rather than pausing and thinking clearly for ourselves from now on.
Boxer had the wit to show up at YKos but was all about her (and Leiberman for those who may have missed her hall-way comment) the wanna be little senate rock star clearly didn’t have a clue who her audience was.
And that dear firepups bears some remembering every bit as much as her recent and oh so unpleasant deameanor and snarling comments on the sidewalks of CT.
At least Senator Diane Feinstein spares us such muddied cranky doublespeak and unlike Babs who insults my intelligence with pathetic doublespeak.
If Senator Boxer wants to convince me she has seen the light she should start with focusing her snark and arrogance on her buddies in our state’s Democratic party who have become virtually indistiguishable from their Repuplican colleagues. Most notably the Dem leadership decade’s long annual trek to Republican Pebble Beach each Spring whoring themselves for easy money from Clint’s Pebble Beach Company and their favorite corporate partner AT&T.
Yeah, that AT&T – Bush/Cheney and NSA’s favorite spymaster.
target? why the militarism? is civility gone?
eric @
200
When civility means laying down like dogs, ou bet your ass it’s gone. This is a fight, not a fucking tea party. It was a fight with Holy Joe and it’s going to be a fight with every goddamed Bush appeaser from here on out. If you’re not ready for that, you better Cowboy up because that’s what it’s going to take.
Chris Dodd has no intention of asking Lieberman to step aside. I just watched an interview with him on MSNBC and he was quite clear on the subject. He said it wasn’t his business to tell Joe Lieberman what to do – and that he had no intention of offering up his opinion (and he was careful not to say what that opinion was). He did say flat out that Lieberman had a right to run as an Independent. So much for unified Democratic Party support. Oh – Lamont will get some that’s for real; and some that’s for show – but I have a fear that all the underground support will continue to funnel toward Lieberman in an effort to maintain the status quo. I hope that I am wrong – but I would suspect there are more in Congress than Lieberman who put their own sense of entitlement ahead of what’s good for either their state or the country.
Guitar_Playing_Bastard @
201
GPB, I used to think that civility was the only way to go, but I finally understand that these bastards think civility is weakness, so yeah, gloves off. But…Dems on a rampage are still pretty polite.
Anne Holliday @
199
Oh, now I remember! http://www.firedoglake.com/2006/06/10/clueless/
Now that Dodd is out, come on Barbara, show us your Democratic Party love and go have that little talk with Lieberman. It’s the least you can do.
FDL,
You guys and gals rock! Thanks so much for the great job!
“truce my ass” guitarplaying is right. We received the same form e-mail regarding liebermans virtues. She stated he was progressive we responded with a phone call stating his voting record and public statments tell a different story. We stated in our responce that we would hold her to the promise she made to support the winning dem. You can bet her office was flooded with request for her to keep her word once Lamont announced the winner. She did keep her promise.
>I understand the NedTeam has long been prepared to challenge signature-by-signature those petitions.
Umm as I understand it Lieberman has 18,500 signatures. 7,500 are required. So don’t get your hopes up on this one. Also I think the people who think the Dem establishment will give Ned token support and then walk away are probably right. Incumbency as a sincecure is one think most incumbents can agree on. A lot of Democratic office holders find a primary victory against an incumbent a lot more threatening than a Republican victory. Lamont will beat Lieberman; but he’ll have to do it the hard way.
And the fact that he has to do it the hard way is one of the things that makes it worth doing. Lamont getting Lieberman’s seat by stepping over Lieberman’s kicking screaming whining body, with no more than token support from the Democratic establishment will send a second message as important as the primary victory.
yo, mommybrain at 203:
you’ve never seen me on a rampage, have you ???
I ain’t no pacifist
in fact, I’m not very polite ON A GOOD DAY
I can get UGLY with the best of them
put me in a room with the annman, and you’ll see the opposite of “polite” real quick …
Patty @
206
So which is it? IMO her token “support” is like damning with faint praise. I told her in no uncertain terms I expect her to haul her ass back to CT to compaign for Lamont and my vote in the next election depended on it. Her snarky remarks lead me to believe she’s pissed at we blog types for daring to vent our anger at her and is spoiling for some sort of fight. Let’s give her both barrels, 12 gauge, and leave the bleeding, lifeless body of her political career laying at the top of Mount Tamalpais. She’s shown her true colors, she cannot be trusted any longer.
freepatriot @ 208
You ‘n me brother. I’m fucking tired of Democrats, both in office and out, who are too chickenshit to stand toe-to-toe with the red-state Cleti and slug it out like our lives depend on it. As I said this ain’t no tea party, it’s a fight for the soul of the nation and our civil rights. If you can’t see that, you’re too blind to be part of it. The other side is not afraid to take us on because for too long we have laid down like dogs. In CT, we took the gloves off, punched Holy Joe in the face and in the gut and won. It is a BLUEPRINT for what to do.
If you are afraid to stoop to Karl Rove’s level, he will defeat you forever. It’s time to fight dirty. This is a streetfight. No Marques of Queensbury here.
cbl: see you at TexasKaos?
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yo, Guitar_Playing_Bastard:
I’ll let you in on a little secret dude, I don’t have to stoop to rove’s level
I deal in facts and reality (and the ability to fuck up anybody who tries physical violence) not smears and fearmongering
I just tell people what’s gonna happen. they usually don’t want to hear it at first, but when my predictions come true they come back for more
so, really, who do you think will win the primary? Ned or Joe. Hey, the lag on my server is terrible. I’m betting Ned wins it and Joe is a good sport and fades away without crying sour grapes and recount. Well, see you all wednesday.
Liberals angry at Boxer for supporting Lieberman
WAR, PARTY LOYALTY AT CENTER OF DEBATE
By Frank Davies
Mercury News Washington Bureau
WASHINGTON – Liberal activists, including some California Democrats, are furious with Sen. Barbara Boxer — a leading critic of the Iraq war — for her active support of Sen. Joe Lieberman, a Democrat who staunchly defends the war in Iraq.
http://www.mercurynews.com/mld…..051421.htm
freepatriot @
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Never meant to say anything about you man, I am just sick of Democrats who aren’t willing to fight. It’s a street-fight and more people need to see it that way.
I wrote to Boxer when she publically
said she would support Lieberman.
She is my Senator only because I live
in Calif.
I called her hypocritical . One time
she is one of few Democratic
Senators to criticist the Cheney rumsfeld
war , and then to support Lieberman
who was a supporter of the Cheney War.
to me smelled like something rotten
So Baraba , you are supporting Lamont
AFTER he won.
I say too little too lates.
We forgive Barbara and still LOVE Boxer….
With all of these national endorsements… I daresay we’re picking up Joementum!
Joe Lieberman had the weapons of incumbency, the best press this side of Dwyane Wade, and still lost. Sorry, but that makes him a chump–and a smug one at that.
Poor Marty “Eretz” Peretz. He had PLANS for Joe. It now seems the IDF suit at Blair House will have to wait.
Fact is, it appears as if Boxer’s supprt for Lamont will be lukewarm at best. That makes her fair game if someone with the means wants to challenge her. It’s sad that a regular citizen can’t run because of the whole money thing…but someone needs to send Boxer home.
I would support ANY anti-war progressive who was willing to take her on.
Matthew Cockerill @
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Speak for yourself. I will not forgive her until I see her marching side by side with Ned Lamont. Failing that, she never gets another dime, and I’ll hassle and heckle her at every public event I can in California. I’ll make her life a living hell as much as I can.
I have a problem with the fact that democratic leaders like Senator Dodd and Hillary Clinton are not pressuring Joe to drop out of the race in November. The line they’re using is that “it’s his choice” whether to run or not. They say they support Ned and are behind him, but if they do not pressure Lieberman to drop out they are withholding their full support and are in fact ENABLING Lieberman. That is just plain wrong.
I was pissed at Boxer for supporting Lieberman too, but it is pretty silly to threaten a primary challenge based on that alone. If you want to primary challenge a Democrat California Senator, DiFi is the one who acts like Joe. Pro-war, for the bankruptcy bill, etc.