– AP Photo/Bob Child, Edgewood Magnet School in New Haven, Conn., Tuesday, Aug. 8, 2006.
Reader Bookwoman sends an update from a CT precinct:
I’m heading back for the afternoon shift handing out Lamont literature, but 2 quick success stories before I go.
The first Lamont conversion was actually from the head of our town registrar of voters. She has been a staunch Lieberman supporter until the tone of his campaign turned negative in the last few weeks. His mean-spirited demeanor was the driving force behind her change of mind. But then she said she the more she analyzed the Iraq War she had to admit what she didn’t want to: Joe is wrong.
And the second is such a “guy” story. My husband saw this gentleman pull up in a Porsche. Since we have a 356SC my husband can spot a Porsche owner a mile away. And so began the second conversion. They talked about political issues too, but it was the “car thing” that got it started.When the fellow finished voting he stopped by to say “I voted for your guy”. Sometimes it’s just the little thing that makes the difference. You never know.
Have I mentioned what a great bunch of readers and commenters we have? Immanentize shares this:
OK, here is my bit which I mailed down today — I have many relatives in Connecticut; mostly in the Ridgefield area north of NYC. My aunt and uncle (in their seventies), two cousins and their five children. My aunt and uncle were lifelong Republicans until the Iraq war started, then they changed, out of protest, to independent/unaffilliated (in 2004). My one cousin is a Democtrat and the other is a cranky yankee independent. Two of their kids (is that second cousins?) were registered Democrats and the other three (in their early twenties) had never registered.
First, I went to work on my aunt who is a serious feminist/charismatic Catholic. I know, strange brew. But she is one powerful lady (like some I have met here). She was supporting Lieberman on the traditional women’s line but was concerned about the war — but she was not personally involved in that issue. Well, I have been sending her links and calling her about how much better Ned would be and kept hitting on the morning-after pill stuff (did I mention that out of the five grandchildren, all are women — and two are single moms). Finally got through to her about two weeks ago and I have let her do her magic on the family.
All are now registered to vote in the Democratic primary, and all but one are going with my aunt today to the polls. The difficult person has been the always Democrat who has a county job an dshe really like Lieberman. She said she was on th efence up to Saturday, and today, when I called her, she told me, “Ok OK! I voted for Lamont, ARE YOU HAPPY? Will you let me alone now?” and then she laughed.
So, 9 votes for Ned. And my extended family is closer for the experience.
Oh yeah, that just reeks of crazed, angry lunatic, doesn’t it? Hello, media — we are Americans, and we want our government to function properly. This ought not be a difficult thing to comprehend.
Urban Pirate reports in from North Stamford:
Reporting from North Stamford, CT – Prime Lieberman territory.
Turnout is light (139 people as of 10am), and decidedly pro-Lamont. I would estimate that before 9am it was 50/50 but from 9-10 it was at least 80% Ned.
As of 5am there were Vote Joe signs everywhere, by 11am the city sanitation people had thrown them all away.
No lieberman volunteers ANYWHERE. The dem machine had workers out this am, but each offered to me quietly that they supported Lamont.
People are energized for Lamont, with many voters coming over to me, and chatting for quite a while.
Going to phone bank now, and then back to the polls.
Interesting stuff from the ground, eh? Here’s more from Kai:
So far so good…I’ve been postering in Stamford and Greenwich since 6am (”Vote Ned Lamont Today!”), and have also been giving rides to the polls in my hybrid (I even walked into the booth with a blind gentleman and pulled the lever for him, first time I’ve been in one of those things with company). The Lamont street presence seems far stronger than Lieberman’s. Must. Keep. Hustling…
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Wow!
Kiss Float!
NED!
MSNBC, in breaking news, is reporting that Lieberman’s website has been hacked… Lieberman’s people are blaming Lamont and his “minions”.
did we ever figure out if Joe paid the bill?
NEDZ
The Revolution will not be televised —
But it will be live-blogged!!!
Does CT use Diebold machines? If so the vote realy doesn’t matter does it?
MSNBC Breaking News: The Joe LIeberman Campaign claims it’s been victimized by computer hackers.
The Lieberman campaign blaiming it on Ned! Bastards! And of course MSNBC has not even a comment from the Lamont people. They are all in it together godfkndammit.
What’s going on with me today?
Hitting “Refresh” on the average of every 5 minutes.
Trying to look like I’m working.
Working in five-minute increments.
Obsessiviely checking other media outlets and blogs.
Gotta go – Time to hit F5 again!
Classic repub trick with the hack…but they must not have gotten Roves memo on the timing – should have reported it last night or before.
Totally goes to the image they created about the Net Looneys as well.
I hope this criminal act is not precieved by the ones who did it as a just act. Its a crime by either side, and I hope they are caught.
Those stories are really good to hear. Last night I was kind of down about the whole thing- thinking that the beltway insiders were going to pull it off for Lieberman and we’d never see any change.
Today I feel a little more hopeful.
Can we get a little bit of the “throw the bums out” momentum going on here too?
Looks like this should easily be one of the main points of this election.
A do nothing congress needs to be shown the door where they can really do nothing.
Joe is one of the chief enablers of the “do nothingers” that have been doing nothing.
-GSD
The picture of the little girl with her mother is great. I remember going to the polls with my dad.
You know, Ned’s message is so hopeful. He always mentions the kids when he speaks about his message. That should be our paradigm. Progressive values naturally spring from such a sensibility.
Go Ned !!!
Christy, I hope you are feeling well today. I know you are frustrated at staying behind in WVa, but it’s nice for those of us at a far remove to have an ally like you, at the center of the blog and yet not in Connecticut.
Thanks for all you do and thanks to your wonderful family for letting us have your time and energy. Love to all the ReddHedds!
{{{{{{{{{{{{ FDL }}}}}}}}}}}}}
As for the site a vist shows the the main page and some of the links to look fine.
no Diebold machines in CT. Just old fashioned hanging chads.
Porsche’s for Ned? It must be another left-wing moonbat plot. My Italian red-head is rooting for Ned.
Since Joe’s campaign probably wouldn’t know a blogger from a booger, I don’t think that story is going to get much traction.
Wouldn’t surprise me if we eventually find out that the Lieberman campaign paid someone to organize a hacking.
WAKE UP CA its 1PM!
I really hope you all kick Joe out of the Senate!!
Well, they’re going to make us out to be crazies whether Ned wins or not. Count on it.
The Four Post-Lieberman/Lamont Scripts
The movie “Clue” is one of my favorites, in part, because the viewer gets to see three possible endings all in a row. So in that same Clue-like vein, I want to offer my thoughts on the possible outcomes of the Lieberman-Lamont primary. Though the election will take place tomorrow, it’s obvious today what will take place under all of the possible outcomes (except, maybe for Florida 2000-style outcome – that’s a real wildcard). So without further ado, I will lay out my predictions starting with Lieberman winning big and going to Lamont winning big.
[snip]
– You can read the rest of David’s article here. We do not reprint entire articles due to copyright considerations — but we welcome snippets and links. Thanks. — CHS
Yesterday morning I was checking the website of the Herrin Twins- the formerly conjoined twins who were successfully separated as of today. Their website had a message that it was down because the bill hadn’t been paid. Later, just an error message appeared. Over on TPM, an IT person wrote that a site might go down and have an upaid bill message if the site was hit with too much traffic and the servers couldn’t handle it. I don’t know for sure if that is what happened in either case-Herrins and Lieberman- but it seems plausible.
And because you asked- Your cousins children are your first cousins once removed. Your children and your cousins children are second cousins. You can think of “once removed” or “twice removed” etc as moving down only one side of a family tree.
Hello Energized yet tired firepups. I wish everyone on the ground, at the banks and blogging your hearts out a good and triumphant day. Thanks Christy, hope you are well today. I am better. Thanks to everyone that sent me hugs and support. We will all get through this.
Just remember the battle cry: Throw the bums out!!!
From Ned’s email this morning:
Getting good RFK chills up my spine.
I just shot off an email to the msnbc people asking them to check into the ACTUAL story, instead of just believing Liarman
jnfr @ 22
[wearing tin foil on his head] I AM THE VOICE OF MY OWN GOD!!!! NUTTER BUTTER IS A CIA PLOT TO CONTROL OUR MINDS WITH CHEMICALS!!!! JFK WAS MURDERED BECAUSE OF THE TREATY HE SIGNED WITH THE NORDIC ALIENS!!!!
Yeah, cra-zay bastids we all is.
Is anybody following the hacking story in the blogs? Love to read up on it since it seems to be hitting the MSM right now…
MSNBC — They are doing it again! Third time about the hack, and no comment from the Lamont side. This has to be a total Lieberman/Rove gambit. Let’s just hope the MSM bothers to find out the truth.
GC/ Hilarious article by david Sirota @ 23
Yeah, it’s a good one, but next time try posting a link and a snippet. Posting the whole thing amounts to stealing, IMHO (and perhaps in the opinions of certain legal minds as well). Send David the traffic, don’t just take his words.
hi Hope!
Corporate tool and framer of Rove spinpoints, Lanny Davis in WSJ using Ann Coulter’s talking points about “liberal McCarthyism”.
How pathetic Lanny.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/extra/?id=110008763
-GSD
kristinejoy @ 29
Try Gilliard: http://stevegilliard.blogspot……stein.html
this is just great reporting and story-telling on FireDogLake.
more insight and humanity in FDL’s reporting than you’d find in fifty articles bylined by the starched shirts stuffed with self-important j-school grads who file for wapoop or the NY(twi)Times.
HSaT
Glad you’re here, glad to hear from you.
What’s going on with me? Thanks for asking.
Gritting teeth, fevered sweats, uncharacteristic impatience.
In other words, a perfect day for this pol geek.
Go Ned Lamont.
Noron reporting on the hack right now. . . .
Hi HopeSpringsATurtle!!!
LindaR at 30 — Atilla the Hen and Gerstein have been pushing this since yesterday. And not one media outlet has bothered to get a quote from Ned or his supporters. Steno Sue has some competition…
Morning Firehounds :)
Sheesh I finally caught up with the comments today! Gonna be a historic day, however it turns out.
People were talking about a DOS attack on HoJo’s website epu’d below, and how Joe is claiming it was hacked by his “opponents.” This is the page I was redirected to when I tried to visit the joe2006 site. And this is the WHOIS listing for that site:
———————-
No match for domain “WWW.JOE2006.COM”.
Last update of whois database: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 03:51:28 EDT
————————
I’m not saying his site was not hacked, but this just appears to be a domain that expired, and was not renewed.
The HoJo Website DOS Hack = a lot of voters trying to get info, who used up more than the $3.50 worth of bandwidth that HoJo paid for.
Website Screenshot — Account Suspended
Million$ for lying ads, but two plug nickels for bandwidth . . .
Hi hope! I got your email this morning, thanks! I will take you up on that if need be sometime.
Hey teddy!
{{{{{{{FDLers}}}}}}}}
Kos on the record about site hack.
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..24621/2122
This blogger-hack story on MSNBC is a total distraction, trying to drive blogger eyeballs to their channel. Regular folks in Connecticut aren’t watching MSNBC, they are at work or voting on their lunch hour. The story means nothing, except as an attempt to inside-baseball us.
And the Lamont camp responded yesterday evening, as I recall (but I got no link, and ain’t going to look for it.)
Noron on MSRNC about the bloggers…. and the hack attack. Lieberman filing with the attorney general of the state that there has been a concerted attack to take down the site. Blaming the bloggers. Talked with Kos, says charges are stupid and the lieber campaign are idiots. Kos has screen shot of website saying down for non-payment. Evil lefty blogs, blah, blah.
Breaking news
Lamont says that Lieberman didn’t pay his bills. Tweety up.
If you get a website with limited amount of transfer per billing period, “unpaid” can be the default error if you get a lot of traffic and go over your limit, or if you get a denial of service attack (which is basically a lot of traffic). If that is what happened, it’s either a rovian ratfuck with poor timing, or someone misguidedly and overzealously trying to be “helpful” to Ned…
Or maybe it really was just that there was a lot of interest in Joe’s positions on the issues.
msnbc just reported that it may be that Joe didn’t pay his bill, but still using terminology like “dirty tricks”
Christy Hardin Smith @ 40
I guess I’m overreacting, but I feel so violated! I am naive.
Light turnout is very good news.
Let’s not forget that Democrat and incumbent Cynthia McKinney is in the fight for her political life too. As is Republican legacy candidate Linc Chafee who is being challenged on the far right. 12 Year incumbent Bob Ney from scandal ridden Ohio was just forced to step down. Decades long Texas congressman dirty Delay is now forced to run or forced to support a write-in candidate. Incumbent and corrupt Democrat William Jefferson has just garnered a primary challenge.
Throw the bums out.
-GSD
38, “Noron reporting on the hack right now. . “
Who is Noron? Specifics, please?
gonna chatz-pimp me some Eugene Robinson, since I got picked first.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/…..01011.html
the stories from the front line make me soo happy. (i have not been happy since bush stole his first election.) thank’s to all of you (too many to name) who are fighting the good fight.
i feel more purpose to my life these days, thanks to fdl.
i will now go out back and work on my rick santorum empty house float. the house is a super huge ten ton homemade dog house a friend donated. still need truck.
And, millinery man, i think we should all make empty house headgear. you know, big fanciful hats with long grass and newspapers piled up on the brim.
GO NED!
Look out Ricky!
Lynn Samuels on Sirius Left just started her show with the Ricky Lee “Had Enough” Go Howie
MSNBC and all their Beltway-friendly talking heads are pushing the Lieberman story that a denial of service assault was made by Lamont supporters — or maybe even lamont himself — on Lieberman’s lame web site. What a crock. The right-wing MSM bias exposed once again.
I cannot believe this shit on MSNBC.
This is a total lie.
Man, did you see those screen shots of Fox News wrt the election, at dkos…, Screen shots include these:
“HAVE THE DEMOCRATS FORGOTTEN THE LESSONS OF 911″
and
“A LAMONT WIN- BAD NEWS FOR DEMOCRACY IN THE MIDEAST”!
holy batman
http://www.dailykos.com/
Have any of you seen this?
From ThinkProgress
This is outrageous.
orangejumpsuit @ 51
Norah O’Donnell – MSNBC
Matthews, to his credit, is nailing Sean Smith hard.
Ned
Fitz
Jane
Christy
Pach
TRex
emptywheel
Jesus’ General
Tweety ripping Sean a new one….
On MSNBC, Matthews is making Smith pay for the accusation about the site hack, hard! Smith is a lying fuck.
Tweety talking with Leiber campaign manager. Wants Lamont to denounce this. Tweety asks for proof, says he is accusing opponents of sabotage. Tweety “So, you don’t know who is behind it.”
This is an attack on the blogs, people.
Liarman sure is wringing every last ounce out of “I’m a Victim!”
pitiful and pathetic…
The most shocking thing about that David Sirota piece is that one of his favorite movies is “Clue.” One of his favorite board games, I might understand. But movies? Wow.
The Lieberman campaign saying they were “hacked” (sorry, but a DOS attack (denial of service) is not hacking) lets them claim dirty tricks were used against them. This lets them claim moral equivalence and create a smoke screen cover for their own dirty tricks… be ready for some nasty crap later today.
If nothing else, after a Joementum loss it lets the right-wing media create a meme of “Lieberman was taken down by dirty tricks” every time the loss is mentioned in the future. Kind of like the lie about Al Gore inventing the internet.
Lynn found the Have You Had Enough on Crooks and Liars and just loves it. Had very positive comments.
Essentially, Smith will use the “site hack” as an excuse for losing.
omg Sean Smith is such a tool.
First they ignore you.
Then they laugh at you.
Then they fight you.
Then you win.
(Gandhi)
An oldie but apropos goodie.
That screen shot is not legit, though. Unfortunately.
Copied verbatim from the joe2006 site:
That’s way too quick for me, have they got any evidence that this is Lamonts doing? Why don’t they put the original website back on? Could they be having bandwidth problems?
Petro @ 71
Amen!
interesting that Sean Smith is NOT telling RGJoe’s voters where else they might go for info on voting, etc.
This is what is seen at http://www.Joe2006.com website
beth meacham @ 72
Are you sure? I thought Steve Gilliard said it was the first screen shot after the site went down, and was replaced by other more Lieberfriendly screen shots later on.
Did anyone just see Chris Jansen (?) totally skewer Sean Smith of the Lieberman campaign on an MSNBC phone interview?
Matthews = There will be a CLEAR result ; )
Condor @ 73
They’re having Morons-In-Charge-Of-Website problems. If it is a DoS attack, it would not effect their email system. They obviously have a substandard hosting plan, which goes back to the moron problem.
If he had exceeded his bandwidth, they almost certainly would have put a “bandwidth exceeded” message. You see that all the time with Fileshack images. Of course any website owner who isn’t an idiot would have a hosting package that allowed for overages, but just charged him more for it the next period.
Like I said above, I’m not saying he wasn’t hacked, but the fact that the WHOIS registry shows the domain no longer exists points to it just expiring. Hacking to change a webpage is relatively easy. The sophistication needed to hack into Internic and change their domain registry would be orders of magnitude harder. Kind of like taggers tagging a bus, versus tagging the side of the White House.
Fini’s right. It doesn’t make sense that a DoS attack would affect their email, unless their hosting service really sucks.
Morons for Lieberman!!!
Yeah, that would explain the Kiss — wouldn’t it?
-ck- @ 77
I am pretty sure. Firefox adds the http:// in front of URLs when it’s navigating. You can’t be at a site without that showing up in the the address bar.
But I still think the whole kerfuffle is a Rovian publicity ploy.
Hope, hugs & prayers
so Rovian
The screen shot Gilliard has posted could mean a lot of things, from money problems to bandwidth overruns. It could also be the default screen when the site has problems; I hope TPM Muckraker follows through with calling the web site hosting company this morning.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 80
And isn’t it the case that a DoS attack only hurts while it is ongoing (Denial of Service and all)? After that normal service should resume right?
-ck- @ 41
The only thing they’ve offered as proof that I’ve seen is that e-mail to the Dewey Square Group, which for all we know, could be fake. It’s not a sworn statement, and I could have typed that e-mail in about ten minutes (I’m a lousy typist). So yours is one possible explanation, another is the online provider covering up their own incompetence.
LIz Dupont on now from Lamont. MSNBC.
My last gay nerve is shot
Wow, Pade–great news about Lynn and Sirius radio! The more people who can request AAR, XM and Sirius to play it (as well as commercial stations), the better for us..
GO NED!
Who says mixed marriges don’t work?
The Wedding
TPM Muckraker has some info up about joe2006.com. There’s a copy of an email from the hosting service claiming it was a DOS attack, and that they had paid their bills, but which hasn’t yet been confirmed by talking directly to the service rep. Of course, no information on the source of the alleged attack, which means Gerstien’s blaming it on the Lamont campaign is still scummy.
(And personally, I wouldn’t put it past Gerstein to promise the hosting provider a few extra bucks in return for providing this email to cover for them having gotten cut off for legitimately going over some bandwidth limit.)
“Hack” on CNN now
It just defies logic that it is a DoS attack. Email systems go down when websites go down because of lack of payment. Even if they DID have bandwidth issues, only the site would go down, not the email. The email system only shuts down when the account is suspended for non payment. I know this from being a broke ass webmaster who forgot to pay his bill once too often.
Chris Jansen (there is a Lamont supporter in the background of the shot, with poster easily seen and read) was asking Smith exactly what he hopes to accomplish by having an investigation on the web site being hacked, since nothing would come of it today, he asked him flat out if he’d paid the bill to the web space provider…He was brutal!
Liz throwing really really cold water on Tweety’s BREAKING NEWS.
My last gay nerve is shot by the campaign manager agreeing it was sabotage. Argghhh.
just want to say that Sirota’s article (now up at Yahoo News) is something we should all read to get ready for tomorrow and the rest of the year. it’s a really good analysis of what has happened (already) in connecticut and why it matters, no matter who wins the vote today.
and the General (patriotboy.com or blogspot.com, whatever) really put up a classic last night about making his way into lieberman’s “bunker” last night.
we all need to read stuff like this. Sirota, especially, is about how we should look at things come wednesday morning. truly important.
CNN clains they havent been able to get in touch from anyone from Lamont campaign for comment on the “hack” accusation.
Sorry, link didn’t work. Here’s the old-fashioned way: http://fabulouswedding.cf.huffingtonpost.com/
Yeah, claiming that their email is also down makes no sense at all.
Also, if there’s a “we’re under DOS attack” message up at the address, which is reachable, then they aren’t under attack any more and should put their site back up!
Liz handled it very well on behalf of the Lamont Camp.
Go to TPMMucker on the Hacking story; sounds like the ISP actually did have a Denial-of-Service attack on Joe2006.com, shut down the site temporarily to halt/check the attack.
If Sean Smith is saying anything without documentation about the source of the attack, he is full of sh*t and defaming Lamont.
More in a minute.
Man, I’ve been watching Chris Matthews and he sure is covering the website issue quite fairly. He also seems absolutely charged by this election and thinks the outcome ought to be like the shot heard round the world to the incumbents in office.
I hate these media fucks. Liars. Chris Jansen’s last bit din’t include the ‘condemnation’ from Ned’s camp. Just the charge of sabotage. Classic rove
Someone with more knowledge about the technical intricacies of a DoS attack could contact CNN via their new iReport doohickey here:
http://www.cnn.com/exchange/ir……news.html
fahrender @ 100
The idea that there are only four outcomes is hysterical. Last nite I jotted down TEN more that Sirota didn’t cover. Just for instance, he completely ignored the very real possibility that the CT GOP gets Schlessinger outta the race and anoints “lifelong Dem” RGJoe their candidate. Sirota’s article was funny, but woefully incomplete.
newtonusr @ 104
I know, I know. I’m just a fight, fight, fight kinda gal. Moral high ground is prolly best for his politics, right now. Sigh.
With all due respect . . . what would _any_ normal person think if a candidate’s web site suffered from a DOS attack the night before the election. C’mon. Who else (most likely) would do it but somebody who doesn’t want that person to win?
Ned ought to get out in front of it and be just as critical as Joe is regarding this, and support the forwarding of this to the attorney’s office, etc.
TeddySanFran @ 26
Getting good RFK chills up my spine.
I haven’t been this excited about an election since I campaigned for RFK in the Virginia primary in 1968, when I was all of 13 years old.
i’m listening to some of this cybernoise on CNN.
i’m not one for conspiracy theory, but this does strike me as joeasrove. only rove knows how to do it.
did you guys know you are lamont’s cyber allies.
well, tonite we will know the truth. what will you be called after joe loses. i’ve already heard everthing from terrorist insurgents to stalinists.
Well, they’re going to make us out to be crazies whether Ned wins or not. Count on it.
If the majority of people are “crazy,” then the definition of crazy necessarily changes and that becomes the new sanity.
As Lamont will prove, and as polling on many important issues shows, the pundits and professional political class don’t hold sway over public opinion. They might believe they do, but that doesn’t make it so.
And, just a guess here, but for every pundit who says that the CT results are idiosyncratic to Lieberman/CT and/or the result of leftwing moonbats, there will be just as many claiming that the internets have created a sea change or paradigm shift in American politics and they’ve been tracking it all along and expecting it and CT is just the first instance.
Now, c’mon – whoever of you is hacking poor Joe’s website STOP IT RIGHT NOW!.
I know, I know….no firewalls, still on dial-up, all Windows-environment, like shootin’ fish in a barrel, etc., etc., but STOP IT RIGHT NOW PLEASE!
They REALLY need to sell their office equipment on eBay by 5 PM.
For those of us blog-readers living outside the US, does anyone here know when the results of the Lamont/Lieberman primary will be made public? Thanks!
twolf1 @ 109
Somebody Please do it!! I’d do it if I wasn’t a tecnomoron.
John Casper @
61
Hey, thanks for inclusion, John Casper.
Me, I’m doing my part to get Progressive Dems elected in one of those forgotton primaries today. If things go well, come November, my County will be 100% represented by women in Lansing.
Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 80
Not necessarily. The most basic form of DDOS is to just flood the victim’s bandwidth with junk requests and other nuisance traffic. It stops everything, including e-mail.
Hopie! Dang, is it good to see you back and cussin’ like you orta be, grrrl!
(((((HOPIE)))))
Update from Colin McE:
http://blogs.courant.com/colin_mcenroe_to_wit
Oops my bad, my WHOIS info above is incorrect; I typed in the domain name incorrectly. Here is the correct WHOIS below:
———————
Domain Name: JOE2006.COM
Registrar: BULKREGISTER, LLC.
Whois Server: whois.bulkregister.com
Referral URL: http://www.bulkregister.com
Name Server: NS1.THEPLANET.COM
Name Server: NS2.THEPLANET.COM
Status: ACTIVE
Updated Date: 14-jun-2006
Creation Date: 23-jun-2002
Expiration Date: 23-jun-2007
————————
Yes!
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF GOD STOP HACKING POOR JOE! HE NEEDS HIS INTERNETS!
kristinejoy @ 111
This “Evil Lamontereers” meme are fighting words, I agree. Glad Ned has cool heads on board.
Need.Valium.Right.Now.
dissatisfaction @ 103,
Preview is my friend, repeat, preview is my friend.
I hate to throw cold water on the breathless accusations of denial-of-service, but if the site was under a DOS attack you wouldn’t be able to reliably load that dubious statement from the hosting company.
Denial of service means nobody can talk to the server. You would see your browser hang or get “server unreachable” kinds of messages, with occasional page loads.
What’s missing from Lieberman’s web site is not access, but content. Either the hosting company suspended the account and is now covering for Lieberman, or someone somewhere screwed up and accidentally deleted his entire website. If there’s no content that suspended page may be the default page shown.
BetteB @ 117
Estimates are around midnight eastern time
Yes, Chris Matthews was good on the hack attack. He wasn’t letting Smith get away with his bu****it, and he had a pretty skeptical look on his face the whole time. The Lamont spokesperson was great, I thought.
Hyperventilation under control, somewhat.
Tweety drives me crazy. I scream at him on the TV all the time, but on election day his little-kid excitement is infectious and fun.
The ISP would bend over backwards and issue any statement the campaign asks it to to cover their ass because they dont want to lose Joe’s business and having their accounting people pull a plug on a campaign site the day before an election is hugely embarrasing for the candidate and the ISP.
Email systems simply DO NOT GO DOWN because of DoS attacks. I had a site experience a DoS attack once, the hacker defaced my page, put up his own page and my email worked fine the whole time because email is run through a different part of the server separated from the http files. Email is very very hard to break into, the only way to have email systems disrupted at the same time as the site is non payment. They lie as usual and have used this as an excuse to use the Blogger Boogeyman to scare old folks away from Lamont.
Apple Canyon 2 @ 103
The DoS “attack” on the LieberSite did not come from the Lamont Campaign, anymore than the “attack” on the Whermacht in August 1939 came from the Polish Army.
Those damned tubes must be clogged again.
Sorry – I know why I keep typing “Jansen” and not “Matthews” – Jansen is a client’s name that’s on my mind – but I really look like an idiot here. Sorry! Too busy today to focus on this important stuff – must…make….a…living…..
Isn’t it amazing how well all this fits with the angry leftist netroots terrorist line of thinking?
For the techie discussion here, i’m not completely sure a DoS attack could not also be directed at an email server. I would suspect however that other clients of the same hosting company should then also have suffered because of this DoS attack. It will be interesting to hear if those stories exist to support the DoS claim.
Cujo359 @ 121
Doesn’t that mean that it’s simple to track back to it’s (DOS) source?
Did Joe miss Hardball because the DoS attack crashed his personality too?
Looks like Joe can’t even appreciate a little web attention when he finally gets some. As long as he blames his troubles on the web he continues to fail his constituents.
Butterflies and positive energy sent from this neck of the Ozarks today. Team Lamont is the one to admire for all of the hard work and inspiring message for the people.
Go Go Go Team Ned!
teddy (#110):
come on. he’s writing an internet article under time constraints, not an in depth piece for the new yorker………..
Classic “make the bastard deny it.” I’m glad Lamont is smart enough not to take the bait.
Methinks Joe may come to regret standing Tweety up last night.
Hell hath no fury link a pundit scorned.
The thing that struck me as odd about the SS (Shawn Smith, DL, Cincinnati Bengals)tirade on MSNBC is that he never once offered an alternate way for those afflicted to contact the Lieberman Office. I mean, cry me a river of crocodile tears! if they were sooooo concerned, why not set up an alternate web site or give an 800 number or something? The difference between the candidates: Ned wants to fix problems; Joe whines about them.
The response from Ms. Dupont-Diehl was, from an old PR guy’s standpoint, perfect.
Maybe somebody already caught this in an earlier thread, but in the Lanny Davis WSJ op ed (linked to by GSD at #33 and by either Christy or Jane in an earlier post) he talks about an anonymous lawyer friend who was “threatened” after his “campaign work” in Ct. Did anybody else notice that this friend sounds exactly like Richard Goodstein, the abusive guy in the videos a few days back? If so, talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
RGJoe’s Internet Consultant:
Ted Stevens.
new thread
Hey folks, this may sound tin-foil-y, but you need to know there’s players out there who could be messing with Lieberman because of the Middle East conflict.
First, the Times-UK carried a story this week about Israel’s “cyber-soldiers”.
Second, there have been stories about Hezbollah’s use of “robots” or hijacked servers to launch Denial-of-Service attacks on Israel-friendly sites.
Lieberman’s site could have been a target, whether of a “false-flag” attack by cyber-soldiers, or a D-o-S attack by hostiles.
Sean Smith better have hard facts that the attack on Lieberman’s domain came directly from a Lamont domain/IP or this is just defamatory behavior; there are far too many other players out there who’ve got their reasons to launch a D-o-S on Lieberman’s site for other reasons.
I think if Smith can’t come up with hard data, Lamont’s team needs to file a complaint with the election regulatory agencies as well about Smith’s behavior.
They’ll have called the election long before them. I don’t think it is going to be close, but that’s me from the comfort of the EPU. If I really wanted to claim omniscience I would have posted way before election day, but suffice it to say you only need 2 factors, at least in a primary:
1. The expose of Lieberman’s true stench/disconnection; and,
2. A viable alternative – i.e. Lamont.
Gilliard’s screenshot is exactly correct. I saw it myself in the very early a.m. hours. Later, it changed to something like “You jnow who to vote for.” I see it’s changed, again.
Listen, this cannot possibly be a DOS attack. Email is working. Web host posts and re-posts on the same url. Any number of things could have gone wrong, ranging from web host’s tech problems to limited or exhausted bandwidth, to failure to pay bills. What it isn’t is a “hack.” Any media reporter who says otherwise is merely putting his/her ignorance or bias on display
Bob Sullivan on MSNBC used the word “virus.” He’s the expert, but he’s also an idiot.
I’m a CT voter from Naugatuck. I cast my vote for Lamont and was rewarded with my I VOTED sticker by the kindly geriatric zombie outside the booth.
I took a glance at the voter rolls for my polling place as they crossed off my name, and saw that about 10-15% of the names had been crossed off by then, which was 10 minutes to 8:00.
I am nervous by the last minute sign-spending and paid workers Lieberman’s forces put out there in the last 48 hours, as well as the sudden media outpouring to maintain the status quo.
We phonebanked for Lamont last night as well. So many scary people who say cheerfully, “I think I’ll decide when I’m there, in the booth!” like that is something to say pridefully. I mean, if ever there was a race where you could say, “well, THIS guy is for this, and THAT guy is for that,” this is it.
Rayne @ 106
Yep. FOS indeed. The ISP and the domain host are two different entities, looks like from my whois. The domain fee is separate from the ISP monthly charge. Wonder if they know that?
puppethead @ 124
If the online provider has a private network or people onsite to do maintenance, they don’t need Internet access to their computers to maintain them. I don’t know if this is the case or not, but the possibility isn’t excluded as you seem to think it is. If it were I designing their network and I could count on having someone onsite (with the computers, IOW), I’d give the administrators their own network connections into the host computers. That would make it possible to either shutdown their client sites or maintain them without Internet access of any kind.
It’s also possible that they reserve part of their Internet bandwidth for maintenance. This can be done either through router filtering or setting up separate ATM pipes for a maintenance network. This technology has been available for more than a decade. I had to program Cisco routers to do this once upon a time.
Oh SCORE!! A free internet terminal at Heathrow. Oh yeah.
Do you realize in how many other countries people are following this race?
An international event. Yay democracy!!
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[channeling norske] KEEP THE FAITH AND GET OUT THE VOTE FOR NED
The website stuff is utter bullshit. Even if some overzealous Lamont supporter engaged in a DOS attack, do you think the average person gives a flying fuck? Yeah, like Ned Lamont would be behind such nonsense or someone’s grandpa is not going to vote for Ned Lamont because he didn’t immediately “denounce this outrage.” Gimme a break. This is pure desparation and/or an acknowledgment that Joe’s toast in the primary and they’re trying to drum up sympathy for an independent run. The schtick will be “wacko lefty bloggers and cyberterrorists conspire to deprive Joe of his birthright!” Won’t work. He’ll look like sour grapes, which he is.
Rayne at 143
Such a good call. These media people cannot be bothered to investigate, give plausible other scenarios or tell anything more than a tabloid style soundbite. They disgust me.
What’s missing from Lieberman’s web site is not access, but content. Either the hosting company suspended the account and is now covering for Lieberman, or someone somewhere screwed up and accidentally deleted his entire website.
Just like somebody accidentally deleted Joe Lieberman’s popularity in Connecticut.
BREAKING STORY *DEVELOPING* Joe Lieberman accidentally deletes his political career — Joe blames the Internets.
Prediction:
1) Lamont will win, narrowly.
2) Lieberman will claim result is tainted because website “attack” stymied his GOTV. Thus he’ll run as an independent to truly “hear the voice of ALL the people.”
3) Lieberman’s Rove clones ratfucked this, did this DoS attack themselves, to allow 2).
There are some really, really nasty comments on Ned’s blog on his website, purporting to be from Ned Supporters. Is anyone trying to moderate that?
CNN is going to start covering the problems with Lieberman’s website next.
Teddy @ 128,
Thank you, I need all the help I can get to do this right.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 152
If we have any task here, it’s to make “people” do their jobs – media, elected officials, etc. They are lazy bastards. Thank your deity of choice for Waas & Froomkin.
By doing ours, we may force them to do theirs. How they can look at themselves in the mirror in the mean time is anybody’s guess.
newtonusr @ 133
Not if it’s really a DDOS attack. That’s done by taking over various computers that are on the Internet but are not sufficiently protected. These are often Windows XP systems, since they allow low-level network programming but were initially not set up with secure default configurations (Microsoft has since corrected this problem, according to what I’ve read, with Service Pack 2). Anyway, most Windows users are one viral e-mail or nasty adware away from becoming victim systems.
What then happens is that these infected computers get directions from control systems, which give them targets, etc. There could be hundreds of computers involved in a DDOS, so it’s not easy to figure out where it’s coming from. Even if you do find the infected computers doing the attack, they are just victims themselves.
Maybe one of Ted Steven’s trucks came by and hauled OleJoe.com off to the trash heap.
sorry…
Cujo359 @ 159
Mac users (like me) are unlikely to have a grip on this. D’oh!
Chris Bowers has this:
This is even better news. Selective high turnout in Lamont precincts, low turnout elsewhere was the original electoral model, before all the cameras started showing up.
But I can’t forget telling friends and relations how good Kerry looked through most of the day.
To Cozumel at #127 –
Thanks for the info about the results time. Will stay up and tune in for sure!
NPR now has the hack story.
Someone should just hack Lamont’s website. That would kill this laughable story dead in its tracks.
After work I’m voting for Lamont, with my husband (he finally, at 11:30 yesterday morning, heeded my daily reminders to change his affiliation).
And to tell the truth I’m still smarting from having several of you guys (who don’t, by the way live in Connecticut) say I was a Lieberman plant — just because I commented on what I was seeing around me here in Connecticut.
I am cyber-incompetent, but couldn’t some Lieberman techie (oxymoron?) merely have substituted those messages for his regular stuff — just to be able to blame Lamont? Something like a Hail Mary, maybe?
The Joe2006 story is really weird. The page that is up is the provider’s generic account suspended page. You’d think unsuspending it would kinda high priority. You’d think the provider would really not want this kind of publicity. The quotes from Sean Smith sound suspiciously like Ted Stevens. It would be very surprising to find a provider hosting mail and web content on the same server.
The closest thing that has come to making sense is that the site exceeded bandwidth limits (which could be plausibly labeled a DOS attack, I guess), but it’s very much in the provider’s interest in a time-sensitive instance like this to waive the bandwidth requirements and negotiate later.
It just doesn’t make sense.
And there’s this. They really don’t seem to care to get in touch with their voters. I think they’ve done their early canvassing, and fear a blowout.
I cannot believe a sitting US Senator could run such a lame campaign. His parting words are gonna be “The Big Bad Bloggers Got Me.” Amazing.
Paul Kiel at TPMMuckraker has this:
how about a story from the past ???
I was working in a polling place that had three precincts in the same room, and I was the “problem solver” for all three precincts
I should state up front that I was wearing a LA Dodgers baseball cap to keep my hair under control
a young developmentally disabled person came in to vote. the precinct workers couldn’t understand the guy well enough to learn his name, so I was called. It took a few tries, but I finally understood the man, and we found his name in the register (I’ve never seen such a look of relief on a person’s face before). Since the guy wasn’t able to mark the ballot himself, I was nominated to assist the guy. I read the individual ballot measures to him, and then the candidates’ names in order, and waited for his decisions (sometimes we had to go thru the list of names two or three times before he decided). it was my fiirst time assisting a disabled voter, and I think I did a good job
after 45 minutes of assisting this guy vote, the guy reaches into a bag on his chair, pulls out a San Franciso Giants hat, puts it on his head, and starts making fun of my Dodgers hat
that’s gratitude for ya
it just goes to show, no matter how much you try to help a person, you can’t force that person to root for a decent baseball team
Voted around 7:30 or so this morning. Small town, modest number of cars. It could be my paranoia, but there seemed to be higher-that-normal proportion with those magnetic ribbons (which I find offensive).
The car I parked next to has a sticker that said something like “My spouse is a Marine in Iraq. Support the troops”. I thought “uh-oh”, but then thought, if my spouse was in Iraq I’d sure as hell vote for the candidate who most wanted to bring her home.
We’ll see what happens. I’m completely conditioned to watching election results with the feeling that my country’s day in the sun is over.
Interesting #s from the CT Sec of State.
29,000 new Dems registered in the last few months. About 1/2 are proviously unaffiliated voters and 1/2 are newly registered voters.
My guess is that very few of the newly registered voters would suddenly be inspired to vote for HoJo, considering that they have not voted in the past at all. Some like new CT residents etc, I can see, but not many.
The unaffiliateds are interesting though, and it will be interesting to see how they voted if there is a way to track it later, which I hope is done.
The good news is that a lot of new people have regisered as Dems. Dean must be happy about that.
Love these conversion stories. Keep ‘em coming all day. :) I’m impressed! Good luck, best of luck, hell, all the luck to Ned Lamont. I hope he wins.
Funny how Rovian this whole story sounds – very like the early campaign in Texas where Rove falsely accused the opposition of bugging his candidate’s offices. Though the bugging hardware turned out to be essentially non-functional – MSM ran with it and the election went Rove’s way. Let’s not forget Rathergate either.
The GOTV machine for Lieberman sure sounds a lot like the GOTV machine that was implemented by Rove (yeah I know – I’m bitter) here in the 50th district in California, during the Busby campaign. The last few days of that campaign showed a big swing in polling numbers, the smear campaign ratcheted up to screamer level, and suddenly there were Bilbray signs EVERYWHERE. I drove around the district the day before the 50th election (as well as the day of) – all Busby signs seemed to to have disappeared, and Bilbray’s face and name were everywhere. Similarly, crews of teenagers were transported around the district knocking on doors for Bilbray.
But this move (the DOS accusation) sure seems pretty last minute and desparate – let’s hope they don’t succeed!
Forgot to add, my town still uses the familiar old-fashioned “pull-the-handle-curtain closes-click the levers-pull-the handle-curtain opens” voting machine. Purely mechanical, sounds a little like “ka-ching” when the vote registers.
Ya know what? Even in my Republican-leaning town I feel like my vote has a good chance of being counted.
these are excellent stories of great hope for our democracy! Go Ned!
Re: Paul Kiel quote
Pls check this story at dkos:
CT-Sen: Why Lieberman’s site is down
So, Geary pays 15$/month for an ‘average Joe’ that includes just 10 Gigs of traffic. It’s on a server together with 73 (!) other sites. It has been down in June, too, when the (in)famous bear cub ad came out. And he dares to speak about hacking, even of contacting the FBI? Nobody can say if there has been any attack at all, and even if there was one, it might have been against another site on the server, for instance the suspicious ‘husseini.com!, that doesn’t even have a google cache. Maybe a terrorist site. Lieberman made millions in fundraising, he could have afforded to buy an internet provider company. So, obviously Geary screwed it up by trying to do it cheap. His job, even his reputation is at stake. Now he tries to divert attention by making dubious accusations, but this dog won’t hunt anymore.
Grrrrrr.
oops, I was updating this story all of the time, not ‘/home’. Was already wondering about the lame discussiuon here. Now I see the dkos story is already online here. Damn…
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