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It’s Primary Eve here in CT. Emotions are running high, especially with today’s Quinnipac poll showing that Ned is down to a five point lead. It’s all down to the ground game now, GOTV, and, well, praying.
Just came from breakfast with Jane. I have met Kobe and Lucy and Katie and they’re adorable. So graceful! They went leaping and flying like a troupe of acrobats, zooming around the yard and back to leap up and put their big paws on my chest and belly. Katie even gave me a big, wet doggie-kiss. Awwwwww.
Some more money just came over the transom from the donations button, which I have taken down now. I never thought I would say this, but STOP GIVING ME MONEY! I have enough, really. It’s all taken care of now, so you needn’t feel obliged to continue to donate. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket, give it to the Lamont campaign through ActBlue.
We all wish Christy was here with us, but it is also comforting to know that she’s sitting pretty in the FDL control tower, tending the blog fires and keeping us abreast of the view from outside the battle zone.
At any rate, I should prolly get myself over to campaign HQ. Time’s a-wastin’!!
More soon!
(Photo love to gnuhaus. Awesome shot — I just love the texture on the face of the clock, just a brilliant angle for the shot. Also, we still need some Roots Project website programming help. Please take a peek and see if you can help out. Thanks! — CHS)
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Lamont!
TRex!
NED!!!
Jane!!!
TRex!!!
Dinosaurs!!!
ALLA Y’ALL!
Right on TRex, into the breach with you…
How is the ground game going?
Was going to post this on previous thread, but figured you’d all be over here now…
Aw, geez, lotus – now you’ve gone and embarrassed me…but thank you for such high praise. *g*
and tommy yum – thank you, too, both for the kind words, and for that amazing piece of music you all put together.
thanks to maryhcr and -ck- too!
From Steve Holland by way of Froomkin
Bush would have made more notes but the crayon broke. Meanwhile senior White House officials debated today how best to sell the President’s ideas of “bang, bang” and “ka-BOOM”.
Countdown to:
Joe-blivion!
C’mon team, finish strong!
I am SO nervous about tomorrow!
Thanks, TRex, we’re in the same boat: sleep-deprived and cracked out on anxiety and excitement, blasting forward and kickin ass until the party tomorrow night in Meriden. Eyes on the prize, baby, no time to get heady. Let’s stay focused and organized. We can win this.
Namaste.
MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!
Thanks all for yr kind words. Passing it along to CHS, from EPUville.
egregious @ 148
Hmm. Guess I won’t be so anonymous as of January :D
Breaking news from MSNBC: BP says Prudhoe Bay pipeline could be closed for months for repairs
One last contribution to LaNed on the way. Wish I could do more. Thanks to all that are!
JC on a crutch ! WTF is LGF boy doing on the teevee ?!?!? and do I really want to know ?
TRex was nice enough to bank an on-the-ground update for everyone — I knew you guys were jonesing for something from CT. Everyone is manning the phones, knocking on doors, hitting all the GOTV efforts. I occasionally get a tired little phone update when someone stops for water, or a quick e-mail, but I’m as eager for updates as you guys are.
Thought this might tide everyone over for a tiny little while… :)
Those electric cars would come in handy about now…
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 13
I thought I read it was closed indefinitely earlier somewhere. We may break $4/gallon soon.
wha ? they were disappointed they couldn’t use last week’s non storm as a beard for the annual late summer gouging ?!?!?! pigs!
I read Anne’s Ned Speech but missed the header. I thought Ned did a superb job there. I’m kinda disappointed that Mr. Lamont didnt really deliver it extratemporaneously his own bad self …
k, kids, i gotta warn everyone not to sit down on the job (not that i can help over here on the left coast, unless you count virtual phone banking at moveon.
get out the vote! pound the pavement! call your friends and relatives in connecticut!!
don’t be fooled by the fact that neither lieberman’s best friends nor his old college room-mate will vote for him!
the polls are trending back to joe! we’ve got work to do!
Y’all —
BOLO for hustlers of “mileage-improving additives” or “doodads” from now on. Had a couple of guys get busted for that in Orlando recently (after which, Texas cordially requested their the honor of their company in court there too). Their
MIRACLE PRODUCT !!!
turned out to be . . . wait for it . . . wait . . .
mothballs.
regarding the BP pipeline shutdown… all’s I can say is, “just wait until hurricane season really gets going!”
things are going to get very interesting…
TRex!!!
Get out there and knock on doors!!! Visit all of those smoky old hangouts, where 65 million year old Democrats hang out!!! And any other TRex friendly folk who might not be tuned in!!!
Tell ‘em to get their scaley paws down to the voting booths, and pull the lever for NED LAMONT!!!
NED LAMONT needs all the help he can get!!!
*ilson46201 @ 20
Umm, *ilson – Ned didn’t say that, I wrote it as what Ned could say in response to a possible last-minute VIP visit.
OldCoastie @ 10
apparently we are all suffering from the same – I gave up my day @ Crawford to do phone work thinking that would help ease things – a big nope ! even made some calls today – and the knot keeps getting bigger and tighter – oh well, baaaack to the phones like a good little lamb
TRex, you hear this rumor?
“Franco says:
August 7th, 2006 at 10:16 am *
There are rumors from Conn Blog that SOMEOME IMPORTANT with secret service is at LieberLIAR’S headquarters in Stamford…Could be Bill or Hillary?….She better NOT be there.”
Hey guys, TRex filed this report this morning as a draft so Christy pulled it to use as a temporary feeding piece for us. He’s proably off on the campaign trail right now so he isnt seeing your comments more than likely.
Just an FYI.
lotus @ 22
I thought I read that scam was shut down in May. An evangelical preacher in Dallas was one of the principles. Nice.
{{{{{{{{{{{{{ deep breath }}}}}}}}}}}}}}
More breaking news from MSNBC: AP: Lebanese Cabinet approves sending 15,000 troops to south Lebanon
via Connedticut Blog
See something interesting? Joe has nothing planned from 12:50 to 5:20. Now the mystery person was spotted in Stamford with the Lieberman staff arouind 12:00. Whatever is happening, which means whatever is going on, will happen sometime from 2:30-4:30 (Hartford is about 45 mins away from Stamford. Joe’s headquarters is in Rocky Hill so either way, Joe and the mystery person would have just hooked up with each other by now.
(emphasis mine)
Yuh-huh, Coz, an evangelical preacher with a whole buncha snazzy suits. And Bidenteefies.
OK…have to pass on this absolutely snarkilicious diary from Dkos.
I too am very nervous about tomorrow. I know I’m jumping the gun, but do we have any ideas when polls close, when results will start coming in, will their be exit polls…
…down adrenaline…down…
Man, talk about being a geek!
lotus @ 33
What are those? That sounds like a disease you get from dirty water in Third World countries.
Question about “secret service: vs. Capitol Police.
Are we sure it’s secret service?
The Capitol police guys can look every bit as intimidating…suits, ear pieces, 9mm’s visible…especially if Rape Gurney Joe has received any death threats. If he has received any…and I wouldn’t be surprised at this point…he will get a Capitol police contingent.
The other thought is a visit from Harry Reid. He has his own squad of the capitol guys.
Really…I cannot imagine that Bill or Hill want or need to be around Leiberman at all until the polls are final. They have done their duty to the party…they have split the difference on the risk, just in case Joe wins. If they’re smart, they’ll stay the Hell out of Dodge until the hand-ringing is over.
Chimpy’s JAR among 18-24 yos: 20%.
HOZANNER!
The other thought is a visit from Harry Reid. He has his own squad of the capitol guys.
Huh, Reid or Durbin? Pelosi? none of these had occured to me, but they’re pretty low wattage for a surprise visit. And Reid especially has been pretty publicly ambivalent about Lieberman.
per My Left Nutmeg
John Boehner has been sneaked in to Connecticut to help Chris Shays – couldd be what all the hub bub was about – jes sayin’
I helped build that pipeline in 74-75. We coated and wrapped the pipe to resist corrosion, the problem the pipeline is being shut down for now. The treatment we used was pretty good engineering for the time, but it was flawed from an actual installation point of view. We coated the pipe with a shrink-wrap plastic layer, after painting the steel pipe with an anti-corrosion sticky primer. The problem was that the pipe would then have to be transported from our yard to the place where it was welded into the system. The transportation itself required a big loader with steel tongs and flatbed trucks with steel rails, more loaders and stacks of pipe—all the time causing nicks and cuts in the wrapped coating—then the welding and application of a treatment coating in the field, sometimes at severe temps…
It’s a wonder the thing lasted this long!
Lotus, chile, I cain’t stop laffin!
OfT, from kos, news regarding Democrats endorsing Arnold:
http://www.latimes.com/news/lo…..-headlines
cbl @ 15
LFG?
cbl @ 19
Good one, cbl! Had a near collision with someone who said I didn’t know anything because I didn’t listen to talkradio! One must withdraw from someone making that statement. 400s of millions of dollars for a CEO from a company that’s not making a hefty profit (take a peek at the WSJ.) OK, I think I’m ok now.
Jim at 38-
It wasn’t clear to me that the mystery person with the protection team was definately there to stump.
Christy posited the idea that Big Dog was there to give Joe “the message” about his post-election options. I’m simply saying that it doesn’t have to be Bill giving the message. It might be someone else.
Or I’ll have to eat my words/buy you a six pack/bake you a pie…
(what I’m doing now, for my hubby who just got out of the hospital, which is why, sadly, we are not in CT)
Breaking news from CNN: Lebanese Cabinet agrees to send troops to southern Lebanon if Israel withdraws and if it gets help from an international force.
Matt Stoller — The Two Machines
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006…..commenttop
We haven’t won yet — help NED LAMONT Get Out the Vote!!!
Anyone notice that tomorrow is the anniversary of Nixon resigning?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisda…..492685.stm
Just wonderin’…
LGF (Little Green Footballs) is a conservative (reactionary??) blog.
He was on CNN b/c he caught a Reuters photog photoshopping (in an especially inept fashion!) Beirut-in-flames pictures. Reuters is responding to egg on their face by pulling all of said photog’s work from their image library.
BC
TeddySanFran @ 42
Yeah, wtf is up with that? They got something against Angelides, or Ahnuld is their good movie buddy, or what? Do we need to start calling them Lieberdems?
LGF boy is Johnson of Little Green Footballs website, home to the most nasty wingers. One of his folk had spotted that a Reuters photo of burning Beirut had been doctored (photoshopped) to look worse than it was.
See? proof that the IslamoFascists are just tricking you liberals about Israel waging a war of aggression. After all, Israel uses US-made precision bombs and wouldnt hurt a fly unless it was a terrorist. Lebanon is fine — you guys are being duped!
and your little dog -
LGF = Little Green Footballs – a stalwart in the bigotsphere – totally wankerific and toolerific – like a 3rd tier guy so I couldn’t imagine what he was doing on the teevee
just typing those initials on this site makes me throw up a little
From the Mystery Pollster via dkos, Fini FiniTOOBZ! @ 35
Bidenteefies are what you see when he smiles. Bidenarrhea is what you observe when he talks, and talks, and talks. Bidentery is what you get from polluted water. Hope this helps.
Can someone explain to me why the chattering class is saying that a Lamont win will be a “disaster” for the Democratic party? The last time I checked, the Democratic party had already lost control of the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and the Supreme Court. And they did it all by themselves, without Ned Lamont’s help. Frankly, a “disaster” may be just what the Democratic party needs.
John -27
It is hard for me to even imagine Big Dog Bill would be holed up with Ho-Jo in CT this election eve under any circumstances….well maybe as head of the intervention team in the event of Lieberliar complete mental breakdown and supervising wrapping him in Senatorial wet sheets that only the Big Dog could be trusted to spin.
Nah, think it more likely the WH has dispatched a Rovian Plumbers unit. heh heh heh.
EPU’d from last thread:
. . . and your little dog, too @ 163
A very thoughtful piece (I thought) on the Larger Implications of the Lamont/Lieberman race from Ezra Klein of The American Prospect…
http://www.prospect.org/web/pa…..leId=11819
Anne Holliday @ 55
I agree. Bill doesn’t hang out with losers. It’s bad for his image.
Bargain Countertenor @ 49
Thanks!
Republican Party Brownshirts in action.
Republican talk show jerk throws chair at fellow debater after a bitter exchange.
Looks like they are starting to act on all of their violent tendencies too.
http://www.baynews9.com/conten…..nd-to-hand political combat
-GSD
BarbaraB @ 53
707!! OK, thanks for clearing that up for me! HAHAHA!!
Matt Stoller says he has info that the Surprise Visitor rumor is unfounded, but doesn’t say what his info is. More interesting at MYDD is a list of last minute LieberDonors, including a gomer named Ratner (real estate mogul and owner of NJ Nets? I never heard of him) who had funnelled about twenty grand or so to Lieberman through his children and extended family. This is really disgusting, under the What’s Legal and Shouldn’t Be heading.
All I can say is how conveniently timed is the threat to the oil flow vis a vis Prudoe and BP? Do you think they cared about the rust before it became useful to ratchet up the fear level wrt resources and security right before the election? Do I think business wants to share control with government? You bet I do. Do I think it’s already having a huge influence? You bet.
In the car today I heard both Rush Limbaugh and Glenn Beck slamming Lamont. (I listen so you don’t have to.) They used the How Dare He challenge Lieberman approach, the Rich Man trying to buying a seat approach; the threat of the loss of the Powerful encumbent in DC crap. And of course they hammered on their mantra that liberalism is at the heart of the rot of the Democratic party. Mwahahaha. If only they weren’t so powerful and persuasive to the ignorant and fearful. They deserve less than the scorn they’ve earned with their faulty logic and downright meanheartedness.
Little do they know that the universe is already shifting to conform to a newer and batter paradigm.
Go Lamont
Matt Stoller needs our help!!!
He has the list of the last minute donations to HoJo — it’s a who’s who of gazillionaires, who like their bought politicians to stay bought — and they know Joe Leiberman is in their pocket!!!
http://www.mydd.com/story/2006/8/7/151410/9419
the chattering classes advising the Democratic Party is like Jeffrey Dahmer advising Mother Teresa…
Stephen at 46
Thanks for the news. Important in-laws are Lebanese and this has been very difficult.
Those are some of the most cogent points I’ve seen in a long time – - and we see a damn sight more good writing here than anywhere else.
And even, upon occasion, some mighty fine Previewing too . . .
(lotus hangs head, draws little circles in the dirt with her toe)
*ilson46201 @ 65
Can’t wait to see what they have to say about Linc Chafee’s primary.
How to Lose
by emptywheel
“About one thing the squalling Neocon Democrats are consistent. They claim that their positions–centrism and hawkishness–are the winning positions. But they ignore that in both recent elections and recent wars, those “winning” policies brought Democrats and the US only failure.
Which is about all you need to know about Marty Peretz’ latest straw man op-ed, beyond the fact that is filled with nasty name-calling. Here is Peretz’ little bit of wisdom:….”
What exactly are Lamont’s views on the Israel-Palestinian question and the Lebanon situation?
Maybe I’m swimming against the stream here, but I’m kind of pleased that BP found the minor leak (5 barrels, IIRC) and problems with corrosion BEFORE the whole thing came bursting apart.
Big props, IMHO, to the folks who carry out whatever inspection regime found the problems before they sprayed oil all over Alaska.
not to put words in Neds mouth but he has said that the continuing War on Iraq has destabilized the entire Middle East and has put Israel at greater risk.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 70
You can find out on Ned Lamont’s web site. http://nedlamont.com/issues/62…..iddle-east
lotus @37 – that just makes me grind my teeth that much harder over the little Dem leadership get c-span get together a couple of months back, touting their book on fighting terrorism (the “we are all Joe” book) and the spiel given about how the Dems need to be more Republican-y to capture the youth. The beltway crew are IDIOTS. If they ever worked on getting facts out, instead of trying to support the propaganda in a softer, fuzzier way – the country would be in a very different place today.
Jewish Voice for Peace
“Opposed to Bombing Civilians? Sign Jewish Call to Action Petition”
Maryhcr, thanks for reminding us how large the extended FDL community is. If you think the above link is helpful, please share it with them as well as the really terrific comments by Hugh, *ilson, and other fine FDL commenters who are really fluent in how Bush policies are driving the violence on both sides.
WASHINGTON – Texas Republicans asked Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia on Monday to block an appeals court ruling that says the name of indicted former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay must appear on the November ballot.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14231596/
Their ‘GO TO’ guy.*%#!!!I hope they get a little sand in their cracks.
the Mystery Guest Kerfluffle is looking more and more like John Boehner – maybe just confirming Liebushman’s lobbying gig upon reassignment by the good people of Connecticut
Fini–just saw the photo of your little one. SO INTELLIGENT. It’s obvious. Am a brittany spaniel & dwarf netherland rabbit person.
They are members of the family. We grieve them deeply. Thanks for sharing with us, even the strongest of the strong need some time to share anguish.
I could be getting money for this? I’ve earned a little, but next time I help take down a lousy Democrat, I’m getting a pay-pal donate to spazeboy button. :)
I hope to meet T-Rex sometime
marksb, when you were working on the pipeline, did you ever know a guy named Leon Stokesbury? Medium height, beefy build, strawberry-blond coloring, from Texas, (though he may not have let this out) a poet?
So TRex & Co are reporting from the Eastern Firedoglake? I’m betting there won’t be much bicycling and brushcutting between now and Weds. *g*
>>>>>>>>>>
OT – Is Hagel worrying about just how big a mess Bush plans to create? Can Newt convince him otherwise?
Hagel on Iraq
Newt on Iraq via CT
Notice which one is wearing the yellow tie.
the Mystery Guest kerfuffle was predicated on 2 factors — an afternoon 4-hour hole in Liebermans schedule AND the sighting of Secret Service scurrying around. A coincidental Boehner fundraising visit for the GOP makes sense but not apropos for Lieberman.
The mystery is still unsolved !
Hi, Political Wire says mystery person is Boehner campaigning for Shays. I’M nervous about tomorrow because if Lamont wins it shows that grassroots still count. I’m 57, live in GA but was raised in Massachusetts and lived in CT. Before the big donors got involved, knocking on doors really counted. Oh, I forgot to mention that Lieberman’s wife was a year ahead of me in my school.
I’m back. Bush is on C-SPAN 1, explaining his cease fire initiative. lame….
*ilson46201 @ 82
I like the theory that Boner [sic] was reassuring JoMo that there would be a Lieberman Loophole in the K Street Project Rule about not allowing “Dems” to lobby
Afternoon.
1. Looking forward, are there (here my terms may be wrong) key precincts, key regional areas which have been identified as important to getting a read on how the voting is going? They do this in Presidential elections; perhaps it’s a bit much for this campaign.
2. I heard that Lieberman will be on Hardball today. His last gasp I suppose.
Ghostman
BarbaraB @ 53
I’ve been confusing bidencaps with bidenteefies. *g*
Spazeboy — TRex got the donations so he could afford to travel up to CT to help you-all.
There’s no reason you couldn’t put up a donations button — after all, you are a recognized international videographer super-star (and your flip-flops also!). Cuteness helps too…
Peterr at 71: I believe that I heard on NPR today that(surprise)no maintenance had been done for at least two years on the pipeline. Just can’t spend those profits on things that won’t boost the stock price.
I read years ago that a large portion of Alaska oil goes to Asia because of shipping cost and other factors that make the profits better. Does anyone know if this is true and if it is what % goes to Asia.
There’s a manatee in the Hudson River.
Ed*ward Teller @ 84
Missed you. There was lots of musical action here while you were gone.
lotus @ 67
Now, now, lotus, there’s nothing wrong with you that a refreshing shower and a little plant food won’t cure. Exotic flowers should not trouble themselves with minutiae.
For everyone else, via dkos, here’s an explanation of the Q poll that makes me feel a whole lot better. I thought myself that it might be a small numbers problem, and that does appear to be part of it. I’m always wary of sample data studies with no statistical confidence levels. http://www.mysterypollster.com….._conn.html
Mary for now @ 74
If they’d had the first CLUE the last, oh, 14 years, think of where we could be instead, Mary!
‘Salmost winetime EDT, so we can hazard that thought now. I couldn’t have recommended it earlier in the day . . .
…I’d call ‘em bidentoofers, bein’ from Arkansas and all, y’all.
:-)
*ilson46201 @ 88
but watch out for folk that are willing to donate if you will post pictures of your feet without the flip-flops. Therein lies porn…
Steve @89, I’ve heard the oil is shipped to Asia because it is too ’sour” (sulpher-y) to be refined for the American market – too polluting… So, with all the dire predictions for the west coast… I’m not all that sure it is true….
but it sure is easy to manipulate that information
“not to put words in Ned’s mouth…” Well, yes. But that really doesn’t seem to answer the question and does not seem very specific. For example, I clearly understand Chuck Hagel’s (R), Rep. Bob Filner’s (D), Lieberman’s and the Bushies stand on the Lebanese situation. Whether I agree with these guys or not, I know their views.
Steve asks:
“I read years ago that a large portion of Alaska oil goes to Asia because of shipping cost and other factors that make the profits better. Does anyone know if this is true and if it is what % goes to Asia.”
Untrue. All of the producers’ product goes to refineries in Washington and California. The state has shipped a small percentage of its royalty oil to Asia.
ok, a little eye candy break for us all . . .
http://removerepublicans.com/images/ned_lamont.jpg
yeah I know his authentic progressive bona fides are all that matter – but yeegawd, if I’d seen that across the room twenty years ago – jes sayin’
Not Bidentoofs, Bong?
Wrt the mystery guest, it’s too late to help Joezoe tomorrow. Anykind of a rally requires advertising to drive attendance. The gap in Joezoe’s calendar TODAY is simply incomprehensible. The guy simply doesn’t want to go out in public, or at least not if CTBob and the kiss float know about it, because Joezoe knows they’ll be there.
cbl, interesting take on Boehner, do you think he was “delivering a message,” from Bush? What reason would he have to be at Joezoe’s HQ?
Mayben the shrub didn’t take kindly to Joezoe’s very recent speech about wanting a “speedy end” to the war. Criticizing the Commander in Chief during a time of war, that’s treason.
Frank Probst @ 54
I guess the only disaster that motivates petty party functionarys to wake up and take notice of something (anything?) is the likely and looming possiblity that one day, in the not so distant future, they loose control of the Democratic party, and force them to fund something more constructive to do with their lives.
Which is precisely what America needs right now.
Spazeboy @ 79
Spazeboy! I’ve been wanting a PayPal donation button somewhere for you for a while now. It would be great to free you up from your “day job” — assuming you have one! — so you can bring us more Beaudacious filmery.
:ahem: I do echo *ilson’s take on the feet thing, though.
*ilson46201 @ 88
Fortunately, I live close enough that I have no real “need” to put up a donation button, but I’ve considered it. It presents a quandary for me, because I know people appreciate what I do and would maybe want to kick in a few bucks to help me upgrade my equipment or something–but then again I’m doing fine with what I’ve got and would feel pressure to do more.
I’m just hoping that T-Rex sees my comment and hunts me down at Sullivan’s later since I’m dying to meet him just to add him to the list of great bloggers I’ve met since January.
I’m off to catch up on some sleep (and store up some ZZZzzz’s for tomorrow).
John Casper
I tell them all the time what I read here, and thank you! We have worked on letters to our Congressmen and worried about family getting back home, and the father who is in the hills now, but who is not in good health. My cousin is like my sister, and her child is so important to me; her in-laws are my family now, and they have claimed me as theirs. My father was a minister who supported peace and tolerance among people and brought a Protestant, Catholic, and Jewish community together in his lifetime. This insanity of killing the innocents of the world cannot be tolerated, any time or any where. Ever.
And not just ANY ol’ ‘tee, Jim, but a
How anyone could resist either a manatee or someone named “Jennifer 8.” is beyond me . . .
lotus:
Nope – ‘em are bidentoofers fer shure… in all their spldendiferous glory. bidentoofs is just regular toofers.
:-)
Oklahoma Kiddo 97
It’s my impression that Ned supports Israel’s right to *defend* itself. I wish he would come out more strongly in favor of human rights for all people, but I think it’s pretty clear he’s in the political mainstream on the Israel/Lebanon situation.
I guess he can only deal with so much at one time and so I’m not focusing on this at the moment. It is disapppointing, however.
If it’s really the Secret Service that was scurrying around Joe!’s headquarters, then the visitor has to be Clinton, a Bush family member, or Cheney. Congress doesn’t get SS protection.
Re comments here and there above about the timing of the Alaska pipeline closure: Many of us who predicted the Exxon Valdez spill, also predicted a large-scale pipeline corrosion scandal as well. It has never been an issue of “if,” but one of “when” and “how bad.”
Marksb @ #40 above barely scrapes the surface of how the corrosion problems crop up now in relationship to pipeline construction technique. I’d hate to see how much of the buried portions of the line look.
Bush is so pathetic in trhis press conference. So is the press in their questioning.
E Teller at 98 thanks for the answer
Biting my nails here in MN – and wishing I still lived in CT so I could help – and vote! I haven’t seen this mentioned – but are there volunteers available who can drive people who need a ride to the polls tomorrow?
Thanks to all who are doing the grunt work! I have sent my money, and sending prayers in between checking on FDL every few minutes – obviously not going to get any work done for a couple of days!
Mary for now @ 87
Only the Bidendentist knows for sure. Are you planning to stay “Mary for now”? That’s going to confuse the hell out of your bibliographers. And how’s your one-eyed pony doing with the heat?
lotus 106
Something about the manatee has always touched me. I read an article about them a long time ago, complete with pictures, that I’ll never forget. They get hurt really badly and die because they’re always being cut up by boat motors. Terrible injuries. Very sad.
I’ll take yer word fer it, Bong. Reckon I jes’ wandered off too fer from the headwaters fer too long.
Oh my. Looky what I spy.
[matchstrike. sssffffffft.]
‘Ere.
anymore, a whole lot of people get Secret Service protection — the Preznit ordered a massive increase in the list after 9/11 — I heard a Secret Service Agent official complaining about the horrible stress that expansion put on the Service…
Spazeboy @
79
spazeboy in da house!
NED in the Senate!
Then there’s bidentime; the DLC concept of Congressional Representation. As opposed to spectercles – the RNC competing concept.
Manatees are like the bumblebees of the ocean. :)
Mary for now @
81
For those of us who’ve missed the previous explanations, what’s with the yellow tie?
Anybody who’s not in CT (and interested in what’s going on) might enjoy watching the news at noon clip from WTNH featuring live interviews with Ned and with Joe.
Ned, to reporter Erin Cox about his campaign calendar being clear today: “I didn’t see YOU there at 5 o’ clock this morning, you should have shown up–that was our first press avail”
Ned’s going out to meet with voters and not making a big deal about them in the press.
Joe says: “It’s a wasted vote to send a message. I think you gotta decide who’s gonna be the best Senator for you.”
Let’s make sure he knows who we’ve decided on.
Steve @
89
CNN talking head said in the past hour from Wall Street that the BP oil becomes West Coast USA gasoline, thus our price increases (today!) of eight cents per gallon.
Like ExxonMobilBPChevron needed the excuse!
lotus @115
[matchstrike. sssffffffft.]
‘Ere.
Dude(ette)… It ain’t quittin’ time yet. Still stuck in the damn office… Oh what the hell..
Teddy – ‘Ere!
:-)
egregious:
I’ll be there! And I offer spare beds in my suburban home for any out-of-towners.
(And — netherland dwarfs? Are you involved in the House Rabbit Society, egregious?)
JennyftB, I competely agree. Ned is at the absolute forefront of Maxine Water’s OUT OF IRAQ Caucus. That paints a big target on his back wrt all the TM nonsense ahout “cut and run” “surrender monkey,” “give the terrorists therapy,” “pre-9/11″ LIBERAL
commiepinkoDemocrats.IMHO, the TM have made the situation in the US so hostile that making the points that need to be made, for example that the US kidnaps people in the Middle East all the time, is politically impossible for him. The only person who did something that
heroic, politically stupidimo was Martin Luther King when he split with LBJ over Vietnam. Dr. King, however, wasn’t running for elected office at the time.Everyone in the Middle East imo understands that a US pullout from Iraq and Afghanistan diminishes Israel’s military leverage in the region.
Jenny, you must come visit me along about January-ish some year. There’s a place called Blue Springs State Park a few miles from here. When the weather gets cold enough for long enough, the manatees ease on into there from the St. Johns River, to shelter in a crystal-clear spring near “the boil” that formed and now feeds same.
You can see the mamas and the babies and the big ol’ daddies right there. It’s a purely-beautiful spot that I’d love to share with ‘tee-lovin’ FDLers any ol’ mid-winter!
I understand Lieberman will be on Hardball today. On Matthews Sunday show, he seemed to
give a little sermon at the end, which seemed
to go against Lieberman but we’ll see what
happens today. I imagine his Corporate Masters
will see to it, that it’s a love fest. Maybe
Joe’s out of commission because of last minute
television interviews and the MSM will be more
than happy to aid and assit in giving Joe all
the air time he requests.
Teddy – I draw on a lot of yellow tie experience that I mentioned when Christy & Jane were being chastrolled for not going after Markos buddy for his SEC whatever. After painting with the broad
bushbrush, darned if Imman’s son didn’t go buy HIM a yellow tie.I still stand buy it though – you can tell a lot about someone from their ties, and the yellow banker ties speak their own language. ;)
BarbB – my bibliographers as a concept is pretty funny. If ever there were feet that weren’t of note, they’re mine. Last night there was another Mary and it happens enough that I’m thinking I need a new name, and I refuse to go with adding middle parts of my own (I fought too long and hard against MaryBeth to pick up the pompoms now).
Mary for now @ 118
A 707, as everybody knows.
Manatees are wonderful. I used to live between Cedar Key and Gainesville, Fl. and spent many wonderful times diving Manatee Springs with these fabulous and friendly creatures. Them swimming so far north is troubling. Global warming?
our family adopted Murray almost 15 years ago – the college girl was obsessed with them (as was her mother 30 years prior)
http://www.donate.net/stm/bask….._id=412920
am trying to fathom what attracted this critter to the Hudson – they’re herbivores, what in heaven could it be eating ?
John Casper:
Yes, as passionate as I am at the moment wrt what I consider Israel’s war crimes, I cannot fault Ned for not taking on the whole world. Your point about Martin Luther King is spot on!
Let’s just get Ned into play as a senator and I think he will do great things. I really believe that.
Lotus -
Thanks for the invite. My parents live in Boca Raton and I do visit them several times a year… I might take you up on that!
lotus -
Er… you do live in Florida, yes?
Old Sow, There have been a number of nasty pipeline leaks reported over the last year, and most leaks are not reported. Also, I understand the permafrost is sagging (thawing due to general warming) and some supports are moving, causing welds to fail and small leaks to become gushers. I get the impression that the pipeline is a mess right now.
Lotus, there were so many people working the pipeline. Lot of Texans. It was probably the most interesting time of my life. I met a woman who was fondly described by my foreman, in his late sixties at least, “the oldest living whore in Alaska”. I met a welder from Mexico that was running an apartment full of prostitutes in Valdez–and a nicer group of people you couldn’t find. I knew a man who stayed sober in after-midnight poker and dice games and raked in thousands a night. Another guy imported hash by UPS packages in Valdez and was stuffing all the gain into a Bank of ALaska account to finance his education and future business. Two Aleuts I worked with that grew up in the little Aleut village that used to be Valdez, who told me magical stories of what it used to be like. I cried when they talked about their life now, and when they would go off to drink themselves into a stupor on Saturday night through Monday. It was like living in a Ken Kesey novel.
BarbB – pony has a fan and is good – thanks for asking. His “formal” name is Rascal and he’s not sure about a part of the Tommy Yum lyrics, but he otherwise loves having me sing the song to him (have you had enough). One eyed and tone deaf.
Frank Probst @ 54
Honestly, I think most “centrists” are captive of the misapprehension that the “center” is about halfway between the liberals and the conservatives, no matter how far to the right the conservatives move. Unfortunately for them, this is false (as is ably demonstrated in this great American Prospect article) which is why they keep losing. If that were true, then their strategy of appealing to that halfway point to capture both moderates and liberals might be a good one.
The other flaw seems to be one that is all too common; the inability to see that their whole strategy is wrong, always deciding that the reason it failed was because we didn’t do enough of it. (Kinda like neocon foreign policy…)
War correspondent (hehe), Tucker Carlson is ripping Bush a new. “Bush is an idiot for saying democracy means peace.”
John Casper @ 125
Tell it like it is, baby!
Hugh @ 8
LOL!
Mary for now @ 128
“Mary for now” works for me.
“Mary” is such a fine commenter that they asked her to post and so far she has done one, but we all hope there are more in our future. IMO, those of us who have been here awhile have no trouble distinguishing between “Mary” and “Mary for now.”
Others may have a different perspective.
If Tucker starts picking on Bush, it will be hard to know what to do. Give them each one of those great big nerf bats?
Just got in and saw the new poll and now my head hurts.
OT, and my apologies if this was posted a couple of days ago and I missed it:
Haynes was one of the five. Woot! http://www.afj.org/justicedigest.html
Mary for now @ 141
Oh, darkblack?
Dr. Bong @
123
thank you! thank you! (checking over shoulder for former prosecutors in the house)
OH, hi Christy !!
Brother John, are you yanking chains? *g*
oh please, loaded .357’s would do a whole world of good, except neither one of them could fire one without cryin’ or fallin’ on their priveledged asses from the kickback
BarbaraB @ 144
Haynes was one of the five. Woot! http://www.afj.org/justicedigest.html
That is great news!
I’m warning yez right now — seatbelts required here. My food-editor pal just sent me this. It sounds so much like something she’d do and tell that I can’t help but believe it’s of her own composure.
Then she goes on to report:
Me, I vote for more pom-poms at the ‘lake!
OH, hi Christy !!
*slinks away*
Hugh at 8 – I must have missed that first time around, but picked it up later in shooogarp’s LOL – for me that was a big 707 – got a funny look from someone walking past my office…
Sometimes, though, I don;t know whether to laugh or to cry…
Well, well, well. One last endorsement:
Mary for now @ 136
My brother had a blind horse. Totally blind, even after the amazing ‘horse pills’ that we gave her. We’ve had dropoff goats, cats, and dogs, but this was a droppff horse. All were cared for in the best possible way and lived and died here. A blest place. They do seem to adjust, amazingly.
BarbB 144 – I didn’t see it! WooT!
I did see where Reid threatened to not confirm Bradbury’s Assist AG slot and where Specter caved to the force of darkness yet again and did a quickie hearing on Keisler last week, without any real notice to the Dems. On the same day, btw, that he filed his “what the Sup Ct really meant with Hamdan is that all the current habeas cases should be dismissed” brief and just a few days after his “I’ll bury the case if you try to convict *my* lawbreaking clients – you State of Maine you” letter.
*s*
lotus, you know the most unserious and silly people! good on ya!
lotus:
707!
timewarp @ 154
The problem for all these guys is that they imagine that Lieberman would take second billing again on a national ticket. You watch, in 2008, he’ll be the darling of those UNITY08 dopes, and at the TOP of their ticket, not #2.
Oh. MY . God.
Lotus, I am literally crying due to the effort of keeping my laughter in (I really should notlaugh out loud in my current locale).
oh, dear, is it just us?
smmmmmmf !
{{{ passes }}}}
Mary for now @ 147
Absolutely not.
Mary is a very common four letter name. Once readers see two more SEPARATE words after any common four letter name, John for example, it’s immediately clear it’s a different commenter.
Obviously, others with more experience on blogs than I, may have a different opinion.
Prior to Mary, we had a Marysz. When Mary started, no one had trouble telling them apart and imo Marysz is visually closer to Mary than Mary for now.
Sadly, I haven’t seen a comment from Marysz for a while.
Is Lieberman almost gloating?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/200…..ticut_dc_1
TeddySanFran @ 159
An Orthodox Jew on the Republican ticket? I doubt it. It’s just staight WASPy men for the Republicans. Their last serious candidate who broke this rule was Elizabeth Dole, who had a fairly rude awaking when almost no one supported her candidacy.
Jenny: yes’m, I live in Volusia County, Florida.
marksb: Your wonderful description accords with the poems Leon wrote about Alaska when I knew him in grad school at the U. of Arkansas in the mid-70s. I’ve promised to copy one here for Ed*ward T sometime, and now it’ll be for you too.
“Fanciful” is not the first word that would have come to mind. OTOH, for those who so successfuly speculated on a 6 week war in Iraq, I guess its time for them to step up and claim fanatasy as the noun base from which they derive their adjectives.
My first-ever post here… I’m on MyDD under this name and on Kos as “Buzzer”. I was in Connecticut Friday through Sunday, but had to head back home to Maryland today.
Anyway, with that intro out of the way, I just wanted to jot down some random thoughts:
1. From canvassing in Middletown the last couple of days, Saturday in an ethnically mixed working-class neighborhood and Sunday in an affluent suburban one, I found that support of Lamont was solid in both places, but it took a different shape. The working-class neighborhood had virtually no Lieberman support, and everyone was at least curious about Ned, and often supportive, but not particularly gung-ho. The affluent neighborhood had a more even Lamont-Lieberman split, but the Ned support was quite a bit more intense. I guess I’d say that (a) disillusionment with Joe cuts across all social strata, but (b) a willingness to switch to Lamont seems to increase with education and income.
2. I am not particularly optimistic about tomorrow. Joe’s gotten a ton of free media the last couple of days, and Lamont, in what I’d say is the first real misstep of his campaign (if my impressions are true), hasn’t engaged in a high-visibility rebuttal to Joe’s Sunday Big Ball of Lies Speech. I’m afraid many voters, characteristically unwilling to change (hence the traditional power of incumbents), might wimp out on Lamont when they hit the voting booth tomorrow and go with the “safe” choice for six more years of being screwed, simply by telling themselves “well, Lieberman’s not THAT bad.” I hope we remember that voter inertia is the default setting when the returns roll in tomorrow night, that we’re up against a massive and multidimensional machine, and that this race wasn’t supposed to be anywhere near competitive to begin with. I hope I’m completely off-base about that, but I just don’t have a great feeling, and it has NOTHING to do with today’s poll. It’s just my gut. I hope I’m wrong.
3. This election is about media spin as much as anything. We need to hammer home the point that just getting a primary challenge to an eighteen-year incumbent down to the wire is a HUGE breakthrough for the grassroots (which includes the netroots but is in no way limited to it). Joe will gloat very loudly if he wins, and his media minions will duly follow suit and rub our noses in the dirt. We need to keep our perspective. I know we’re all tired of moral victories, but we need to be mentally and strategically prepared for another one just in case. Reality bites.
I hope I didn’t come across as too pessimistic. My experience canvassing and phonebanking for Lamont was immensely enriching and rewarding, and I would have stuck around through the election if not for local obligations. I fervently hope Ned can pull it off. But Goliath beats David nine times out of ten, and we’re not Goliath here.
Frank Probst @ 163
Elizabeth Dole is not a Wasp? (Not that I ever paid much attention to her.)
Mary for now
Sorry it took me so long.
Gawd, I’m an idiot.
timewarp @ 168
Oops. Should have said straight WASPy men.
lotus,
I’m back in Alaska today, ready for Leon’s verses……….
John C – I’m starting to feel like the Shaggy dog – hey, it’s me, it really is me – at least, “for now”
timewarp @ 168
Fixed.
Hooray for the people of Ohio! Hooray for the United States! The arch criminal, Rep. Bob Ney, of OH, is going to step down. Sure is nice of him. Maybe he can go to FL and help his buddy Jack Abramoff.
Don’t know if any of you read the New Yorker magazine article last week saying OH is the test state for the big ultra right churches to take over.
Welcome to FDL Master Jack. I think your analysis is spot on (unfortunately).
Mary for now @ 128
I believe some people have said they are collecting your posts, but don’t worry. I said bibliography, not hagiography. :>) How about TheOriginalMary or Mary, Esq.? And don’t be too quick to discard MaryBeth. Mary Beth Norton is a wonderful historian. I assure you that if you go with MaryBeth, I will associate you with witches, not pom poms. Um, perhaps I should rephrase that… http://www.arts.cornell.edu/Hi…..norton.asp
Finifinito – Re; cats – I have known cats to find one last bit of energy to spirit themselves out of the house in order to find a nice place to lay down and pass on to whatever realm comes next. It’s an instinctual imperative. And i echo from above – there seems to be another imperative – at the right time, the right cat will show up on your doorstep and declare that you have just been chosen.
I remember thinking, what a coincidence, Mary for now,uses “g” just like Mary, amazing.
Peterr @ 71
Sure we’re not being “Enron-ed”? Remember all of the California electricity plants suddenly needing maintenance/repair a number of years ago?
karen allen!!!
Good ta see ya!
Frank Probst @ 172
Well, in addition to being an orthodox Jew, Joe has a lot of other problems with that crowd including the fact that he has been pro-choice for a very long time (his short walk to the nearest hospital would not cut it with that bunch), etc., etc.
Kristol is so exited about the coming of WWIII that it is all he can think about.
lotus – another 707!! I copied and pasted that story and sent it to a few people in my office, who were as convulsed in laughter as I was…
Bet that woman thought twice before she asked anymore dumb questions!
Hi Cozumel!
Master Jack – thanks for your report. You don’t sound pessimistic, you sound like someone who has done a lot crammed into a short time and who is very committed and serious about this campaign.
After so many squeakers, everyone is braced for the worst – but there is no “worst” here, really. It is absolutely AMAZING that this race has gone this far. ANd Joe has had to show his true Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, side. When DLC thinks that is the “moderate center” they have lost their minds.
write that novel, marksb. good stuff.
Master Jack–What Lamont office did you work out of?
TeddySanFran @ 157
I do for a fact, Teddy, and 99.9% of ‘em are ratchere! ThankyaJeebus!
[annie]
Tomorrow! Tomorrow! We LOVE you, toMOrrow! You’re only a day a-WAY!
[/annie]
Go-Go-Go!!!
(but remember to get enough sleep, also!)
Okay, ET and marksb. I’ll start typing Leon’s poem right here, right now. I’m slow, so it’s bound to be an EPU by the time I finish/proofread, but this thread is where you’ll find it ASAP.
CNN brought up Jane and “the graphic” again but overall not a horrible story about bloogers and Lamont…
“An Orthodox Jew on the Republican ticket? I doubt it.” Perhaps I’m naive about this, but aren’t the WASP right-wing (Republican) fundamentalists and Orthodox Jews pretty symbiotic with each other? Seems all the evangelicals support the Israeli government’s actions on most everything, from Gaza to Lebanon. And whatever.
Hi everyone, I think you will enjoy a diary over @ dailykos about the Lamont/Lieberman debate today.
CT-SEN: Lamont Blows Lieberman Away in Final Primary Showdown
http://www.dailykos.com/storyo…..54540/1853
dviper @ 179
I don’t think this is a fraud – they had a major leak (267,000 gallons) off part of the pipeline a few months ago, I think that is what prompted this latest round of inspections. I agree that this was a good thing to find before a large leak could do some major enviornmental damage. I did some work related to the Exxon Valdez spill, and believe me, we don’t want a repeat of that!
Master Jack, per everyone else, thanks for the report.
CNN carried oh-so-briefly about Bob Ney giving it up. Congressman Ney was “The Mayor of Capitol Hill” — his committee was in charge of all physical facilities and staff for the House of Representatives. Damn important job and the dude in charge is about ready to be indicted for bribery charges related to telephone equipment for Vapitol Hill. 10 seconds on CNN.
there is only one Jewish Republican in Congress – Cantor of VA. That’s one more than the number of Black GOP congresscritters…
BarbaraB @ 176
Mary Beth Norton from Cornell?
I have a distant relative (my Grandpa’s distant cousin) who graduated from the school of architecture at Cornell in 1925.
She was a feminist before it was popular.
Now, back to your regularly scheduled Ned news.
timewarp @ 181
Sorry, did not mean to be unclear, but I wasn’t writing about the GOP, which I think would be no-Joe for all the reasons cited since my comment. I was referring to these bozos http://www.unity08.com/ who I think would feed RGJoe’s ego, Senator or ex-, and let him preen himself to the top of their ticket. And I agree with y’all, no way Joey Pro-Choice But Short Ride would be on any GOP national ticket shortlist.
And, thank goddess for the disappointment that is Liddy Dole, who’ll cause the RNC, not the without-cash RSCC, to have to defend GOP Senators and help challengers this fall. She’s been a signal disappointment to her party. But not mine!!
welcome Master Jack Buzzer, don’t be a stranger, and thanks for your ground report.
karen allen,
I am so glad Ney’s stepping down. That #$%ch running in his place is really horrible, though.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joy_Padgett
And it’s good to see you again!
Lotus 1:22
Loved the Purina nuggets story. I have not laughed like this in days. Thanks!
Karen — I was at the Meriden office. We fanned out to Middletown from there. I also did a bit of Meriden itself, and that went pretty well too. Lamont has enough support to win — I’m just afraid of premature buyer’s remorse and a “go with the devil you know” mentality. I can’t imagine how much WORSE Lieberman can be, but voters are weird.
oh, lookeeee there under the bridge!
sean:
please do tell…
interesting handle that one chose….
lotus says
August 7th, 2006 at 1:22 pm*
lotus, can I use the dog food diet one? My Dad would spew big time for that one.
Oklahoma kiddo @ 192
Let me put it this way…
Most hardcore far-right Protestants view that whole part about Jesus being “King of the Jews” as an unfortunate technicality. Most WASPS that I’ve run across view Jews in the same light as any other ethnicity that isn’t their own. Not well. Their allegiance with Israel is a hypocritcal one at best. They know the bible refers to it as the holy land, and the place where Jesus will return too, but most of them would prefer to get the Jews out first.
(Of course, this isn’t all Protestants, but it does sum up the same views as most of your Ann Coulter type protestants.)
*bites tounge*
oops
Mary for now @ 156
Sigh indeed. As to the good news on Haynes (and Boyle and some other even-crappier-than-usual nominees), the dateline on the Alliance for Justice blog is Friday, but I don’t visit it regularly, and their emailed announcement just came in. If the folks here aren’t on their mailing list and would like to be, you can visit them at http:/www.independentjudiciary.org and/or http:/www.afj.org
Mary for now: What’s in a name? Yours has always been special, as has been your writing and insight. My Marily, which I was always uncomfortable with, changed today. Never having been among alot of Marys, I didn’t think that adding my initials to my name would be upsetting. I apologize. This is not a big deal for me; I accede to your call on this matter. I have dial-up, a smattering of computer parts, all donated, and am not really that good with all of them and what they can do. You are much better prepared than I to forefend the interests of this very special, enlightened, and creative group; please tell me what is the best thing to do.
cut out the Purina Troll Chow !
nt upstairs. jane!
“there is only one Jewish Republican in Congress…” True. But what then is the explanation for the seemingly strong bond between Christian fundamentalist preachers, their followers, and the Republican party in general and the Israeli government? Most of the Republicans in my very red state and letters to the editor, to our largest newspaper (a decidedly Republican paper) and the editorials support Israeli actions in dealing with Palestinians and the Lebanon mess. No if’s and’s or but’s. Is it that the Israeli’s are being suckered by the “fundies” and the Repubs?
*ilson46201, those are some powerful keys you got going today!
I sort of always liked marily, but of course if it causes you discomfort, you must seek another solution….
*ilson = quick draw mcgraw
sorry, *
Feel free to kill my 213 *ilson…
Bad Zergle…bad.
Jews and Israel are not synonymous. The GOP loves Israel now but obviously wont elect American Jews.
You’ve got to understand the whole 2nd coming of Christ thing to understand the relationship. Israel is loved because that’s where Jesus is supposed to return to. One of the signs of his coming is “when all nations turn against Israel”. Then he will swoop down and save the day…etc.etc.etc… It’s a long story. Just know they love the state of Israel but not so much the people.
Fresh thread!
TeddySanFran @ 218
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Not if it’s going to upset our brilliant Mary! Thank you, *ilson, that was kind, indeed.
“The GOP loves Israel now, but obviously won’t elect American Jews.” That seems to beg the question and offer a possible answer. Why won’t the GOP elect American Jews? Possible answer: The GOP is anti-Semitic?
Oklahoma Kiddo @215, I think it’s the Left Behind stuff that makes them want to support Israel.
John Hagee is a big supporter of Israel, because (his words) “God will bless those who bless the Jewish people.” Jerusalem Post
Oklahoma kiddo @ 214
I think the Israeli right wing (they’re the ones who benefit from the fundamentalists, not Israelis in general) probably thinks they’re suckering the fundamentalists, not the other way around. They get unwavering support from a significant chunk of the American electorate, and the only price they pay is a possible supernatural event (the Apocalypse) at some point in the future.
American Jews arent all that GOP as a group … Bush got only 25% of the Jewish vote . I believe that’s an all-time high for any GOP Presidential candidate.
maryhcr @ 214
maryhcr/marily — The Original Mary changed her name yesterday, so your choice today didn’t have anything to do with it. Another “Mary,” no initials, showed up, so T.O.M. became Mary now and again or something like that. Maybe she should call herself The Once and Future Mary. Anyway, we’ve gotten to know you as Marily, but if you would rather be Maryhcr, we’ll adapt.
As promised to Ed*ward Teller, marksb, and any other lovers of Alaska.
BarbaraB @ 229
Seems to me there used to be someone called “Reddhedd” here at FDL . . . whatever happened to him/her?
;)
Redshift…2:14pm
Have thought about the stuff you mention. And sometimes it occurs that everybody is somehow getting suckered. What you are saying makes sense.
Margot…2:21pm
That eschatology that Hagee and the rest spout, does not help matters (world peace) at all. Speaking for myself only. What you are saying about the left is quite interesting.
“American Jews aren’t all that GOP…” Granted. But the question that remains is perhaps: who benefits and for what reasons from the extremely close relationship between the American government and the Israeli government? For that matter, is there really a concise answer? One thing that does seem clear, if the U.S. is relying on Israel to help maintain stability in the region, in exchange for American funding and weaponry, then something is amiss.
yeah, Lotus, and Leon, that’s it. There’s nothing that can compare to the artic. The closer you get to the top, the more incomparable it gets, the more wild, the more vivid, the more close to the edge, like another planet; and all the time, death is *right there*. Magic. Thanks.
maryhcr @ 211
Marily – I’ve just been joking, sorry! There have been a lot of Mary-s that have posted over time and they all do just what I did, use “Mary” I don’t think I was the first Mary even, just the talkiest.
I kind of like “Mary for now” – it leaves my options open. *g*
Glad you enjoyed that, marksb.
Now I wish you’d been there in Fayetteville, AR, on the night in 1976 when Leon gave a reading from his then brand-new book Often in Different Landscapes. Several fine Alaska poems in it, but this one’s my favorite (his too, he said). I still experience it as I heard him say it — extra good, that.
Peterr @ 71
YES. Any and all precautions and repairs need to be taken and undertaken.
Marksb–thanks for your on the spot experiences. IMO the pipeline workers (I know folks from here in eastern Maine who work there seasonally) are a dedicated and careful group, working to the best of their abilities with the materials provided and conditions as they are.
So not criticism of the workers was implied in my comment about the timing of the announcement of the leaks and shut down.
Hey, OS, how’s your day been?
Lotus, well, recently I laughed about the kibble story. Dealt with tenants who did not understand about a slow vs a fast heating coil in the water heater, and the plumber ($55/hr) who told me about the water heater after I made several trips from home to the apartment building after going to the airport and grocery shopping. Paid bills, and surveyed the 4 of 7 cords of firewood that arrived today!! Heck of a lot of stacking work but DH likes to do it. Prepared a bed to transplant lettuce and basil seedlings into, made some Lamont calls, and now am contemplating dinner while I imbibe in a Corona!! May try to make some more Lamont calls after dinner if it’s not too late or will book some for tomorrow.
LOL, Howzit by you?
Agreed with OS and Peterr; the workers on the line over the last 30 years (I’ve known a few, mostly in the early days) are very dedicated. The system was set up much more like a military outfit than a classic make-a-mess-and-leave oilfield. The whole condition of the permit process was to monitor the line closely and minimize all contamination.
What I’ve read is a lot of little leaks, a lot of issues coming on (welds and corrosion), and those damn supports sagging from melting permafrost.
What I worked on was the buried sections of pipe and I have no idea how that is fairing. It’s not readily evident, though a system was in place to “see” any breach even if under the ground or under the creeks, and they now have inspection camera systems as well. I’m guessing that they’ve hit a limit to controlling the damage with bandaids and have to do some serious (re)construction.
lotus,
I’ve been out doing chores after two weeks of travel. Leon’s poem is really interesting. Very much pipeline boom poetry. I’m saving it.
ET, not sure how much musicality it lends itself to, but I love that howl of the last line.
I nominate “Mary. Yes, that one.”