Comments on: FDL Book Salon: Strawberry Days, Part II

By: howardx

howardx — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:26:37 +0000

i too grew up in bellevue in the 60’s and 70’s and i never heard word one about the internments in school or anywhere for that matter.

By: fishbane

fishbane — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:09:17 +0000

Just to echo Kevin Wood, while I might disagree on occasion, it is undeniably true that David is an asset to all of us. Even a libertarian like me can find enough common ground with him on Firedoglake. He’s doing important work that honest people can agree about. In fact, I fear he’s sort of a bellwether – the Malkins of the world ignore it, because they have no answer, while honest people listen and respond. When David gets less attention, all of us who worry about freedom should be worried.

By: bob h

bob h — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:08:32 +0000

I grew up in Bellevue, Washington in the 50’s and 60’s. The leading families in the town were the big owners of real estate. Niewert’s book has shined a new light on some of those families and their wealth to me; it was all obtained by ethnic cleansing of Japanese.

By: John Casper

John Casper — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:08:19 +0000

-ck-, just scanned your link and I’m not an expert. I just don’t want to turn this into another Walmart/Halliburton thing for Ned. I bet a lot of Morgan descendants supported Hitler in the early 30’s. With the collapse of the Weimar Republic (largely because of the gross unfairness of the Treaty of Versailles), the West, particularly the wealthy industrialists, were scared silly of Stalin. They weren’t so much supporting Hitler as enthusiastically opposing Stalin’s communism.
I suspect a lot of their financial support was less enthusiastic than someone like Charles Lindbergh who genuinely supported Hitler and his vision of Aryan Supremacy. I’m not sure where the Bush’s fit on the continuum, but I wouldn’t be surprised if some of Ned’s ancestors were on it too.

BTW, your 126 at 4:45 was really something. It got me thinking FDL might be hosting your work sometime in the Book Salon.

By: -ck-

-ck- — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:03:34 +0000

kevin –

I totally agree. Orcinius is one of my go-to blogs for serious journalism — the kind we almost never see in the Traditional Media anymore. The Right Wing Brown Shirt attacks on the Liberal Media have put our nation at peril.

In the 1940’s, the Republicans called FDR a dictator; it would seem that today’s Republicans have no problems with dictatorship, so long as the dictator is a Republican.

By: kevin wood

kevin wood — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:57:38 +0000

ck, if we start looking at all the excellent work Dave Neiwert has done over the last few years at Orcinus and elsewhere, we could be here for days. When Jane described him as one of the crown jewels of the blogosphere, she wasn’t exaggerating in the least. Where many blogs tend to snark, hyperbole and opinionated musing (and I know mine certainly does) Orcinus is like a regular graduate seminar on civil liberties, racism and the role of fascism in current affairs. I’d put David’s work up there with guys like Krugman and Greg Palast. And I’m not just saying that because he and Jane invited me to take part here.

By: Margot

Margot — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:52:01 +0000

David Neiwert,
I’m so happy to read your posts, thank you for your work.
Mrs. Robinson, about the Bill of Rights…
I had to educate my kids about it because they evidently did not learn about it at school. They’ve grown up with liberal parents but in a very conservative area of the state, and it was tough to watch some 60s protest footage on TV and have my boys ask if people were really allowed to do that.

By: -ck-

-ck- — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:48:44 +0000

Slightly OT, but several years ago David Niewert did a series on the Bush Family and the Nazis. While some believe BushCo has adopted the Joseph Goebbels playbook, that is only partially correct. George Herbert Walker was one of Hitler’s earliest American Financiers — and it didn’t stop there.

Bush, the Nazis and America — Part 1

By: twolf1

twolf1 — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:47:56 +0000

new thread

By: HeirofPatriots

HeirofPatriots — Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:46:22 +0000

Kevin Wood @64

I did forget the rest of the world had been at war for years before us.

Sharkbabe @ 110

Rove vs. America. He can put us in camps with words. Will we let him?

I almost posted earlier that Bush and the Rethugs could actually sink to rounding up registered Democrats - you know craZie dangerous left wing traitors who question his absolute ~~presidential~~ monarchy in a time of “war” - and physically put us in camps.

As someone else said, you’d think there’d have been some action to restore citizen’s Consitutional rights after Hamdan, but you’d be wrong. The right wing hate machine and corrupt media are geared up for just such an effort. A repeat of the shameful past isn’t beyond imaginiation.