
I knew there was something I liked about Tom Swan, Ned Lamont’s campaign manager. Turns out he’s an Irishman with a populist streak, and a history of fighting hard for the issues closest to his heart. The Hartford Courant has a feature on him that I thought would be a fun read for everyone:
To merely say that Lamont – a pedigreed, impeccably groomed multimillionaire whose great-grandfather was a partner of J.P. Morgan – and Swan – an Irish Catholic working stiff who until recently lived in a self-described "Unabomber shack" and eschewed marriage, money, and ironed shirts – are opposites is insufficient.
Not only is Swan, 45, Lamont’s inverse when it comes to appearance and wealth, but he has spent his entire career lobbying (some would say agitating) for the kinds of causes that people like Ned Lamont don’t really have to think about much – universal health care, for example, and workers’ rights – and some that would directly, negatively impact Lamont, like a higher tax on millionaires.
To be blunt – which is also a Swan characteristic – Swan has engaged in what many people from Lamont’s stratum would call class warfare.
But after a few meetings last winter, Swan was convinced that Lamont’s progressive politics were authentic. He agreed to take a leave of absence from his job as director of the Connecticut Citizen Action Group, and bring a few similarly minded friends with him, to run Lamont’s campaign.
That sound that you hear is beltway consultants grinding their teeth with anxiety that a campaign, run by beltway outsiders, supported by plain old people in Connecticut and around the country, with very successful campaign ads done by a firm from outside the beltway as well…will actually win.
You think they aren’t all on the edge of their seats watching this race? Hell, Joe Lieberman has imported hecklers from KStreet (how’s that Big Pharma connection working for you now?!?) — you tell me they aren’t worried about their Senate meal ticket getting canned by Connecticut voters.
Welcome to your future — and welcome to the moment when Americans get to sit in the driver’s seat for a change. Whatever happens on Tuesday, this is the wake up call for Washington, D.C. — and you’ve been a part of it. One raindrop can raise the sea, and a torrent of them can cause a whole lot of change. How does it feel?
PS — You know, the "Multimillionare Ned Lamont" schtick really ought to be dropped, considering Joe Lieberman is importing some of his wife’s KStreet Big Pharma cronies to heckle Ned Lamont at campaign stops and harass Connecticut senior citizens and WWII vets. The Liebermans also have their own pile of change — and, frankly, it just shouldn’t be an issue, despite the Lieberman campaign’s attempt to throw it up as a smokescreen. Ned Lamont took his inherited money, built a business to provide educational services to colleges around the country and then took it a step further as a volunteer teacher in an inner-city high school. That’s what I call character.
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Ned!
Easter Sunday!
Molly McGuires!
This really is an amazing story, especially if the momentum (as opposed to Joementum) holds.
Perhaps Joe can join his lover in a duet?
I really like being in the drivers seat. Being a passenger makes me anxious.
Patrick Fitzgeralf!
John Fitzgerald Kennedy!
Raw story article up:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2….._0804.html
Lieberman seems desperate to blame anyone but himself. Found this at CNN.com:
Sheesh.
“important” -> “importing”, I think.
…and i have to say… LOL
and the two gay Irishmen :
Patrick Fitzgerald
and
Gerald Fitzpatrick
“Class warfare,” hee, hee! Ned would be following in a fine tradition if, like FDR, the wealthy came to consider him “a traitor to his class.”
Amen, Redd.
Shorter Sean Smith: “We’re getting beat up by a mean girl!”
Cyncal rat-fuckers like Sean Smith and Dan Gerstein are staring at unemployment come Wednesday morning, so nothing they say surprises me.
when I was a little boy attending Sunday School, smiting the iniquitous always sounded like fun. Now as a Moderator, I finally get my big chance!
typo
…considering Joe Lieberman is important some of his wife’s KStreet Big Pharma cronies to heckle Ned Lamont…
s/b importing.
Love, oops99
feel free to delete this comment ;)
Hope you don’t mind, Christy, but I changed “important” to “importing” and deleted the apostrophe in “Lieberman’s,” since you were going for plural and not possessive.
Re-load to see corrections.
Pachacutec @
14
BWAHAHA!
New monitor time.
Thanks for the laugh, Pach
Anyone read Billmon today ?
http://billmon.org/archives/002627.html
Christy – one correction in the last paragraph: The
Lieberman’sLiebermans also have their own pile of change…*ilson46201 @ 16
I dunno *ilson, to me you’re more like “Satan’s Little Helper” hehe. Can’t quite picture you as an altarboy :) (OT: ever see the computer game Afterlife? It’s like SimCity, but you zone areas of Heaven and Hell with punishments and rewards for the souls of the deceased…was a hoot of a game hehe)
Not to rain on the party, but ….
This article by Billmon is a must read:
http://billmon.org/archives/002627.html
Should Ned get a pass on his position on Israel because it’s a politically expedient position? I’ll be as happy as anyone to see Holy Joe go down, I’m delighted that Ned opposes the war in Iraq, but if Ned’s (and the Democratic party’s) position on Israel’s attack on Lebanon and it’s decades of violence in the occupied territories is off limits, then that too could cause the whole region and then the world to go down in flames. What’s Ned’s position on attacking Iran? What’s Ned’s position on attacking Iran if it’s presented as somehow motivated by the security of Israel? Likewise, what are his positions on war with Syria? What are his general positions on continuing to spend my money so that Israel can kill Palestinians and start wars in an extremely volatile area? Is there some point beyond which Ned will no longer support Israeli violence? These are pretty important question, since it’s not at all far-fetched to see WWIII hinging on them.
twolf1 @
7
Is this supposed to be Raw Story’s “shocking” new poll about Lieberman? I think that the Claude Rains character in Casablanca was more shocked to find out that there was gambling in the back room of Rick’s cafe.
Related to the discussion of Lamont’s personal wealth and possible ownership of Walmart stock, many college professors are participants in a retirement fund called CREF (College Retirement Equities Fund). For the most part this is a so-called passively managed fund, i.e. it buys a market basket of say the S&P 500 or the Wilshire 5000, and simply tracks the average market performance. So obviously these funds are going to have every major stock in their portfolios, including Walmart, Exxon, …
So if someone wants to breathlessly say that it is shocking that Lamont owns stock in Walmart (via a managed fund, passive or otherwise), they can make the same accusation against many college professors or other people who invest in such funds.
You rightly make the case, Christy, that we find fellow patriots in unlikely places. Tom Swan making common cause with Ned Lamont was the tipping point for me long ago.
Frankly, I don’t have a lot in common with either you or Jane, in terms of life experiences. But, Jane introduced us to Ned — and to Tom Swan. That’s when I decided that if a rumpled bachelor (who’d worked all his life on my side of the class war) was leading Lamont’s charge, I had to heed the call.
Christy to Jane to Tom to Ned: that’s how I got on board. Others’ mileage may vary, but the principles and bedrock remains the same — taking back our Republic.
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Had Enough, Connecticut?
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Wilson46201 @ 10:37 am – why do tags appear at the end of the text I’m typing rather than where I intend to place them?
Shorter Billmon (whose writing I do love):
The only acceptable poltical movement is one that cannot acquire power or begin a dynamic of change. Accept futility and powerlessness as a faith and kiss your ass goodbye.
Billmon’s analysis of power dynamics is exquisite, his political advice, less so.
LJ/Aquaria @ 19
Agreed.
you need to highlight (mark) the text you wish to have those tags applied to … otherwise the tags will simply come to rest wherever your cursor may be
Anne @ 10:42 am – I didn’t see your post until after I posted mine.
“…and you’ve been a part of it. One raindrop can raise the sea, and a torrent of them can cause a whole lot of change. How does it feel?”
Damned good, Christy.
I see that Sophist at 20 has brought up the same article. I’d love to have Jane or Christy devote a post to discussing this issue using Billmon’s article as a jumping off point. Sure, it’s not as fun as putting up U-Tubes of Lamont, or pointing out what a sanctimonious moron Lieberman is (tough job). However, it happens to be much more important than where the kiss float happens to be today (though I have to admit, it is fun to follow the kiss float!).
Stephen Parrish, CPA @ 26
Tags appear when you click the tag button (as you noted at the end). You have to click them when you want them, type the text you want tagged, and then click the Close Tags button. Or add the html codes yourself manually after the fact. It’s the way the automated stuff works.
All corrections have been made, and can be seen by re-loading your browser.
Stephen – I find that tags are easier to place if you highlight the text you want them to enclose, and then click on the appropriate button. Are you just manually typing them in like we used to before the upgrade?
OT on Lebanon:
Israel which has already failed in its strategic objectives in Lebanon is desperately seeking to put a positive spin on anything that is happening there. I would not be surprised if the loony Gillerman claimed that Nasrallah’s survival despite Israel’s best efforts to kill him really wasn’t a defeat for the Hezbollah leader since it denied him the martyrdom he sought.
Gillerman also warned against rocket attacks on Tel Aviv.
This from a man who thinks that World War III has already started.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/w…..htm?csp=24
Meanwhile in Israel’s high tech air war in Lebanon, Israel managed to kill 28 Hezbollah militants masquerading as farm workers. An undetermined amount of munitions masquerading as vegetables was also destroyed.
In other surgical strikes, 57 people were buried under the rubble of homes in 2 villages struck by IAF (Haaretz)
Despite Israeli reports that Hezbollah has been badly hit, the obviously delusional group unwilling to accept the reality that they are defeated fired another 200 rockets into Israel today. Perhaps instead of dropping leaflets, the Israeli Air Force should drop copies of Israeli press releases so that Hezbollah could read first hand of their defeat.
Wilson @ 10:49 am – thank you very much for your help.
I think I like this Swan fellow already. Sounds like we have several things in common.Like being feisty, ornry, Irishmen. I’d like to buy the fellow a belt of fine Irish whiskey.maybe some Tullamare Dew.
I really hope Dan and Sean have a hard time finding work on August Ninth — these two have no future in Democratic campaigns, do they? Can we send them to the Bob Schrum Home for Democratic Campaign Managers at FOX News?
Who will hire these losers after 8/8?
Thanks *ilson, I did not know highlighting was an option.
Nice one Thread Theorist.
I have ALWAYS said it, now it’s documented fact
leiberman is favored by more republicans then democrats
he is a republican and the democratic party needs to dissasociate themselves from this politician
Anne @ 10:50 am – “Are you just manually typing them in like we used to before the upgrade?”
No – Without highlighting the affected text, I placed the cursor where I wanted the tags to appear.
There’s also this from “Froomkin today.
Hugh : those surgical airstrikes have managed to take out TEN Hezbo killer rocket launchers.
TEN in 3 weeks of aggression to protect the heimland
Hugh at 10:50 sez
This is a particularly apt international application of the “every event is good for President Bush” spin factory product. Nicely wrought, Hugh.
Also:
Hooray for All the Moderators!
Long May Their Moderation Wave!
John Casper @ 10:52 am – there was a time when highlighting was not an option; now we see that times have changed.
O/T- I’m startin’ to wonder about the status of the Fitz front.
:(
.
By their horrendous, coordinated and condoned behavior, the Lieberman campaign’s planned disruption of two Lamont events has stupidly shifted focus from the actions of a single, popular blogger to the desperation tactics used by a group of paid outside agitators and thugs.
And it shouldn’t pass notice that Lieberman was crying about a blogger faux pas while Sharpton and Jackson were in town endorsing and campaigning for Lamont. Can’t blame the Lieberman campaign for wanting to change the focus – can you?
Gee, wonder if Dan Balz is going to write a story about Lieberthugs and paid outsiders roughing up CT citizens and supporters of Lamont?
A song I used to know from the feminist movement:
“Can we be like drops of water
falling on the stone
Splashing, breaking, dispersing in air
Weaker than the stone by far
But be aware
That
As time goes by
The rock will wear away.”
[A] campaign, run by beltway outsiders, supported by plain old people in Connecticut and around the country, with very successful campaign ads done by a firm from outside the beltway as well…will actually win.
You left out “accepting no PAC money.”
This would be a good time to let any contacts you have in the Senate know that the hypothetical is decreasingly distant, and that it’s not gonna help them to back someone running against the Democratic nominee.
BobbyG at 47 — I’m not. When there is news, someone’ll let us know. Libby had a new filing this week that I’ve been trying to dig into — am hoping to have something on that for everyone tomorrow. It’s been a little busy here at my house the last few days, and legal analysis takes quiet space — of which I have had very little. But if I can get some time tonight to dig into it, you guys will get an update from me either tomorrow or Sunday.
“…Meanwhile in Israel’s high tech air war in Lebanon, Israel managed to kill 28 Hezbollah militants masquerading as farm workers. An undetermined amount of munitions masquerading as vegetables was also destroyed….”
Thanks Hugh, your comments are routinely an extraordinary gift to FDL.
Jewish Voice for Peace
“Opposed to Bombing Civilians? Sign Jewish Call to Action Petition”
Ever notice how much Joe Lieberman looks like Senator Joe Payne from “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington”? That Senator Payne, he was one nasty dude!
Lautenberg: Lieberman won’t go independent if he loses big in primary
Works for me. Let’s hope he reconsiders an independent run even if the spread is smaller.
*ilson46201
“those surgical airstrikes have managed to take out TEN Hezbo killer rocket launchers”
With only a few hundred left, this is yet another reason for Israel to declare victory.
NEW THREAD Firepups!
Am I OfT if I ask a question about the non-martyred Nasrallah?
I heard a correspondent tell Anderson Cooper last night that this leader “always follows through” on his word, that he operates in a very straightforward manner, that there is little subtlety in his approach. Since the Israelis bombed Lebanese infrastructure — after Nasrallah proposed a ceasefire — is Nasrallah’s promised follow-up a missile aimed at Tel Aviv?
I’m coming up to speed on this part of the world very slowly, and trying to understand the players and their motives, but it seems to me that if this mullah is known for his “If A then B” kind of pronouncements, Tel Aviv is next.
Would that be the “no wider war” Condi seeks with her W-branded “urgent ceasefire?”
if the French Army patrols southern Lebanon, will Hezbollian girls be allowed to wear head scarves?
I’m going to be in CT this Sunday and want to do some “day work”. Is the main FDL group working out of the Meridien office? I do have the directions from Lamont.com.
TIA
phoebes at 59 — I’m fairly certain that there are FDL readers who are volunteering in a number of offices around the state — we’ve got readers from pretty much the whole state. I know there are a few folks who have gotten hotel rooms in Meridien (at least, I think I remember that from a posting last night) — but maybe some of the folks who are planning to volunteer this weekend could chime in on that?
Mr. Hugh: Gillerman is an idiot. A massive Israeli version of a neocon. What he also fails to see is that the very very soft underbelly of the vaunted IDF is now being exposed. This has negative connotations far down the road. The IDF is very over-rated; especially in ground ops.
Mr. Knuckles: might I suggest a Jameson?
Ghostman
it’s just plain inspiring, is what it is.
may Lamont be a holy terror to Joedumbtum on Tuesday.
*crosses fingers ’til the knuckles turn white*
TeddySanFran,
Nasrallah is that kind of guy. Saying something and then delivering on it gives him cred with pretty much everyone, including the Israelis. Whether an attack on Tel Aviv will happen right now, I don’t know. Both sides anticipate a UN brokered ceasefire in the next few days and despite all the blustering both sides are looking for a way out of this mess but are afraid of appearing too eager about backing off. As the extremely undiplomatic observation of Israel’s UN ambassador Dan Gillerman showed, this could be taken as “weakness”.
Christy Hardin Smith @
60
Thanks. I’ll hope to hear from others. I would like to meet some FDL’ers, as well as do work for Lamont.
I’m wondering how Tice could inform about the wider claims of NSA’s contributions to the ME conflict.
As regards Billmon’s political advice, I’m with Pach. I think he’s been spending too much time with his defeatist “there’s no difference between the two parties” commenters at Moon of Alabama. I don’t find persuasive the logic that says if a candidate chooses not to commit electoral suicide by denouncing Israel during a campaign, it means they will completely go along with the neocons and we’ll be in Tehran by Christmas.
Frankly, this post and his previous one about the Democrats remind me an awful lot of the single-issue drop-ins we get here periodically, declaring loudly that we’re wasting our time on all this stuff because if we don’t solve Diebold (or whatever), nothing else matters!
Well, even if he’s right about the inevitablility of the Israeli-Hezbollah war leading to war with Iran (which I don’t concede), other things do matter. Our government’s actions in Iraq matter. Presidential power grabs matter. Torture matters. NSA spying matters. Corruption matters. Looting the treasury for contributors matters. Healthcare matters. New Orleans matters. And more.
If you honestly think having the Democrats in power will make no difference on any of those, then fine, go bury your head in the sand. But don’t pretend that, just because you’re certain the Democrats won’t ride in on a white horse and solve your pet issue, that you’ve provided any evidence that it “doesn’t matter.”
And Billmon? I am certainly a “hardcore partisan,” and this kind of stuff pisses me off. But I don’t think you’re a “traitor.” (Has anyone actually said that?) I just think you’re wrong.
Phoebes at 59
I’ll be working out of the main office in Meriden. But if you want some ‘day work’ the number to call for placement if you’re out of state is Mr. Trueworthy 860.573.5051. He’s the guy that’ll put you were he needs you. Otherwise I believe that Meriden has orientation at 10 and 4 on Saturday but you might want to double check the Lamont site to be sure.
Hey Condi, how does it feel to see this thing escalate out of control after sitting on your ass for 2 weeks? Feel like talking about “ceasefire” now? Bring your boots.
For those who would volunteer but won’t be in Connecticut:
Moveon dot org is coordinating phone banking; all you need to commit to is 30 minutes online with your cell phone, training and script provided.
As far as Lamont and Israel go – I would hope that Lamont would indeed be a friend to Israel. And a friend that tells their friend the truth — whether they want to hear it or not. This bombing everything in sight is not a foreign policy dear ‘friend.’
*ilson46201 @
58
ouch!
Pach, your little characterization of Billmon as some sort of purity troll is grossly unfair. Billmon gives no political advice whatsoever in the post under discussion. He does bemoan the tragic and dangerous refusal of most progressive Democrats to join the reality-based universe with respect to Israel. Damn straight!
Nothing in his post implies that Connecticut Democrats should do anything other than show HoJo the door on primary day.
TeddySanFran — I thought Nasrallah had said that they’d hit Tel Aviv if the Israelis bombed downtown Beirut, not of they hit the infrastructure. It’s my understanding that they bombed the northern suburbs, not downtown, unless there’s something new.
Ghostman,
The readiness of the IDF has been a very sore point in the Israeli press. The IDF for several years has been used in police operations in the Occupied Territories against unarmed or lightly armed fighters. Going against a better armed enemy in more challenging terrain on ground that has been prepared is something entirely different. The Israeli general staff had the sense to realize this and so began their operations using mainly air power. What they did not have the sense to see was that this approach would be largely ineffective against a well dug in enemy but devastating to Lebanon and its civilian population. Now they are going in on the ground but without any real strategy. Put simply, they have not the time, the resources, or the will to hold south Lebanon even if they could which is not clear. Their alternative to hold a security strip 6-8 kilometers wide inside Lebanon is ludicrous since Hezbollah can just fire rockets over it.
However distasteful it is to the Israelis they need the international community to get them out of this mess which their own overreaction created.
Phoebes, if you’re still here, revdeb has volunteered to act as a link for incoming FDLers. Her email addrees is her screen name AT mac DOT com. Give her your telephone/cell number and she’ll give you hers. And have a wonderful time!
Ghostman @61: “What he also fails to see is that the very very soft underbelly of the vaunted IDF is now being exposed.”
Ghostman will you elaborate on what this “soft underbelly” is?
Yesterday’s stunt by the K Street lobbyist should be game, set, and match! Put this in a campaign ad and ask: “Is this What Joe has come down to?”
Let them heckle away while Ned does his best to talk. Show the Connecticut voters who the hecklers are and if this is the type of campaign that they want!
ralphbon @
72
I was referring generally to his stated and recently restated position that Democrats are no different, essentially, from Republicans.
Look, I realize that Big Pharma isn’t anyone’s favorite entity right now but I really wish you would switch to the term Big Business. Those of us in Big Pharma know there is nothing unique about the bad behavior of some business units of some pharmaceutical companies. The problem of Enron style management affects many other industries, not just Big Pharma. The lab rats are starting to resent it so please knock it off.
phoebes @ 64
Phoebes, Myself, RevDeb and others are staying across from HQ at the Sheraton.
http://www.fourpointsmeriden.com
Volunteering at HQ. They have several orientations per day, 11 and 4 I think.
I’ll post more on here once I get set, probably tomorrow afternoon.
peony #76
The soft underbelly has been a general easing off the training of reserves probably dating back to at least the withdrawal from Lebanon in 2000 and the lack of large unit exercises which would have better prepared the Israeli military for ground operations in Lebanon.
There is also the dubious strategic overreliance on air power to replace for deficiencies in or lack of ground forces (Think about our own experiences in Iraq).
Seriously might want to re think posting your phone numbers.
I don’t get the big, bad pharma schtick, either. Air Products is a chemical company, not a pharmaceutical house.
Urban Pirate at 80
Do you know anyone who would like to share a room?
Edited to remove phone numbers.
Thanks busted knuckles
To one of the moderators.
Could you please delete my post Lisadawn82 @ 81 due to my lack of judgement?
Thanks
[All gone - just re-load your browser: P.S. - are you in MD? Only asking ’cause I am (this is moderator Anne)]
Yow! Leiberman in blackface item all over CNN crawl! No such thing as bad publicity, remember. I think blackface graphic was entirely within editorial permissibility, for what my opinion is worth.
The whole world is outraged over what is happening in Lebanon and not one major American politican has had the courage to speak out, with one exeception (Chuck Hagel). This will not change until we have finance reform. The fact that just about all our elected representatives in DC are “owned” by the special interests explains Billmon’t despair.
To moderator Anne,
Why yes I do live in Maryland. If you’d like to know if we live close by just email me at my name at yahoo dot com. And thank you so much for helping me out with my post.
peony @
76
Peony,
I’ll take a quick crack at it. The IDF is made up almost totally of conscripts serving their mandatory (18 months, I believe) military service. Even the NCO’s are draftees with maybe a year in service. The officers are for the most part career, but represent a small percentage of the force.
The Reserves are more experienced, of course, but few have more than occasional weekend training sessions in their specialties and many are in far from optimal physical shape for combat.
Additionally the IDF is pretty much exhausted from their police duties in Gaza and the West Bank and is suffering from the same sort of fatigue and non-preparedness for actual combat as our troops in Iraq.
Up until this conflict the Israeli Air Force has been able to save the IDF’s bacon in operations such as this – obviously this is no longer the case, at least as of today…
i’m with pach on billmon’s “no difference” schtick. i love a lot of billmon’s writing. i just can’t get with the tone on that one. our backing lamont is about changing what being a democrat is about, or at least what it has seemed to become over the last 30 years, which takes me back to something at the beginning of this post in the Courant article:
“Swan has engaged in what many from Lamont’s stratum would call class warfare.” yeah, irony drips from that little phrase. i distinctly remember GHW Bush using it back in ‘92. the not-so-dirty little secret f course being that the wealthy and the washington insiders use it on us “little people” all the time. we’re just not suppose to notice. uh huh. and now the pig is starting to squeal.
Late to this thread, but didn’t Lieberman accuse Maura or someone of being a paid Lamont plant? Now we know why it was the first thought that popped into his head.
Urban Pirate @
80
I’ll – hopefully – be at the 11a Sunday headquarters’ orientation.
Urban Pirate @
80
Urban Pirate @
80
Thanks for the info. I’ll try to make the 11a Sunday orientation in Meridien.
Ned’s going to be on Randi Rhodes/Air America in just a few minutes
I was going to drop this, but….
Billmon’s point has never been that there are “no differences” between Democrats and Rethugs…just that these differences pale in significance to the one or two foreign policy issues that hold the greatest likelihood of getting us all killed, and for which many of our even most progressive Democrats are hellbent on matching or outdoing the Rethugs, belligerence-wise.
This was for last thread, but it’s still on topic.
MacHeath – It is deep seated, not deep seeded.
Krugman’s argument doesn’t make any sense.
He is basically saying we (i.e. dems) have to keep the politicians who have failed us cause otherwise the repugs will keep winning.
That advice is the same as throwing good money after bad; That it is better to have a quisling wearing a scarlet d than a real D. How does that do democrats any good? Oh look, we elected a democratic candidate, now he can bend over. Yeah!
And what of Krugman’s other points? The dichotomy he seeks to establish between the person and the party is a false one. Politics is about ideas and policies, not people. Lieberman is running, at the moment, for the Democratic nomination, not the Joe Lieberman party nomination. The party label is, and has always been, a “brand” representing ideas and policies and positions independent of the people who run under its label. The candidate represents the democratic brand, not the other way around. Personal beliefs aren’t unimportant, but at least there is an expectation that those personal beliefs comport with the Brand’s beliefs. Otherwise, what’s the point?
Lieberman a “centrist”: If walking lock step with TEAM LOSER is democratic centrism than we can’t get rid of Joe soon enough. Unless Krugman wants to argue that TEAM LOSER policies are somehow “centrist.” This goes to a larger point – the idea that somehow there is a division in the democratic party between the ALLEGED “sane,” so called “centrists,” and those of us who inhabit the blogosphere and the “netroots” activists. That is a false dichotomy, and if anything fits into playing into repug hands it is the idea that the blogosphere and the netroots represent the fringe, and that there is some sort of rift in the democratic party. That’s the lie. And that is a lie that Joe created. Whether it apes repug themes doesn’t matter, Joe had no choice but to argue that it is a fringe element who is against him b/c otherwise he would have no place in the party. But the numbers don’t lie, and if the “centrists” weren’t against Joe he wouldn’t be about to lose. So, just like with the war, either a majority of Americans who want us out of Iraq are leftwing moonbats, or the majority of CT dems are left wing moonbats. Probably not.
As for the animosity, it’s not the word I would use. I would go with frustration: frustration at a politician who forgot what his job was – to represent the people of his state, not to represent himself; That’s the disconnect.
Your concerns about a Pyrhhic victory are noted, but not well placed. That will only happen if the Lieberman the quisling is reelected. Otherwise, why have a Democratic Party?
ralphbon @
95
Ralphbon, Bingo! Thanks.
actually, several leading House Democrats refused to go along with the Israel Uber Alles resolution — John Dingell, John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Barbara Lee and more — these are not inconsequential !
And I should spell PYRRHIC properly.
*ilson46201 @
98
Good point, but still the congresscritters you cite are considered on the fringe of the dem establishment by the MSM. No Senator or real leader of the party has ever dared to call out (let alone question) the Israeli elephant in the center of our Middle East quagmire.
Maybe it’ll happen soon – let’s hope.
BarbaraB @
75
Thanks. I’ll contact revdeb. I’ll be in CT for one day while on my way to NH for a few days of business, so I’d like to do a little something for the campaign, other than simply donating money.
Very interesting post. This site kicks ass on Lamont / Lieberman coverage.
Interesting link: Ralph Nader on Lieberman.
http://counterpunch.com/nader08042006.html
Hugh @ 81 – thank you for your response. (I was reminded of US troops in Iraq.) The similarity doesn’t end there, unfortunately. I’m also struck by the fact that the US and Israel, both with arsenals of nuclear weapons, are fighting wars on two fronts, and engaged in occupations of Middle Eastern countries.
McGee @89, thanks!