Some on the left are expressing vague concerns that after the primary, whether Ned wins or not, the people in Washington are going to start looking at us bloggers in a whole new light. They will see us as the people who helped kick start the campaign of a virtual unknown who took out a fat and happy sitting incumbent senator, or at the very least, the people who helped Ned Lamont make Lieberman fight for his seat which he barely hung on to by a whisker.
It isn’t really true, of course. If Ned is victorious, it will be because the people of Connecticut, the regular non-blogging voting people, were dissatisfied, and when offered an alternative, they took it. But, of course, the tone-deaf Washington elite will be quick to assume that bloggers were the magical X-factor who made the race possible. Why? Because that’s a hell of a lot easier than accepting that everything they know about doing business and shaping policy is wrong.
I imagine it will be kind of like when the Sex Pistols hit number one on the British charts with "God Save the Queen" in spite of being banned altogether from the airwaves. When that happened, the calcified British record industry sat up and took notice, finally, of a phenomenon they had been doing everything they could to ignore, punk rock. Up to that point, EMI, A&M, RCA and all the other big labels had been assiduously pumping money into massive, over-inflated art-rock projects like Yes and Pink Floyd, sure that this punk thing would die out soon. Just another fad, Neville. Ignore it. Maybe it will go away.
Then suddenly, the Pistols were selling records faster than the label could make them. The moss-backs at the labels saw that there was money to be made, here, and overnight, every punk band in London woke up to find a well-dressed A&R man waiting outside their shitty practice space holding a contract, begging them to sign.
"But TRex," you may ask, "What does this have to do with blogging in the hard, cold light of this year of our lord, 2006?"
Well, expect blog to be the new black. (That’s black CLOTHING I’m talking about, MalKKKinites, before you get your racially charged panties in a wad.) All those DC consultants, all those ’08 hopefuls, all those dull-as-dishwater stuffed shirts in conference rooms all across the capital will cry, "Find us a blogger! We need a blogger or this campaign is DOOMED!"
If everything goes according to plan, they will wine us, dine us, send us on junkets, and offer us fat paychecks to do what we’ve been doing for free all along, just as long as we make their candidate look good. And frankly, that suits me just fine. I’m sick of being poor and underappreciated. Sure, I’ll sell out! No problem! Where do I sign?
Ah, but it’s going to cost you. I am a TRex with very expensive tastes. If you beltway insiders come knocking on my cave entrance, be warned. Bring your checkbook. And a fat wad of cash. Be prepared to offer me annuities, some kind of long-term, six-figure, cushy deal. And shoes. I’m going to need a lot of shoes. And I feel it’s only fair to warn you that shoes for these big sauropod feets do not come cheap.
Yeah, that’s right, kids. Here’s some advice from yer good ol’ Uncle Rex. If you’re going to sell out, sell out for more money than you can possibly spend in a lifetime. Get yourself a nice piece of land and a house that looks like a castle. If they’re going to be dumb enough to shower you in cash and prizes, get the good stuff. And enjoy your status as a noble savage. They want you to be edgy. Put your big old boots up on their $10,000 coffee tables. Storm out of meetings. Be "difficult". When you look back on it from your death bed someday, you’ll be proud that you were an incorrigible enfant terrible. Like the Buttlhole Surfers said, "It’s better to regret something you have done than something you haven’t done."
And that’s all I have tonight, Firedoggies! This flesh-eating menace has to pack! See you in CT!!
(Special thanks to reader medaka for reminding me how much I love this X-Ray Spex song!)



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TRex!!! How’s the kitty JC?
NED
ROOTz
I put a “Lamont for Senate” on a post it note on my monitor. I know it is having a tremendous effect.
(Speaking as one of the more powerful bloggers)
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This has been a test of your snarkmeter.
If you snarkmeter is working properly you lips should have turned up slightly at the corner. If you thought this was a serious response and were outraged, your snarkmeter is in need of servicing.
If you laughed uproariously, step away from the computer. Now.
Kazuza – Yeah, I know you all beat me. But Kazuza WILL win the day someday soon.
If the thread doesn’t mind, if BarbaraB shows up over the weekend, could you please let her know that there is a response to query on the last thread “You’ve Got To Be Kidding” EPU @ 318. http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-224582
I would demand that the Democrats provide me with a bowl full of only green M&Ms every morning, and that they sacrifice Bob Shrum to the Angry Volcano Gods. Again, every morning, if possible.
Get me some of that Wingnut Welfare! Pay me 6 bills a year to be wrong!
For you punk lovers out there. And for Eli, who will no doubt say something clever about it whether he likes it or not hehe.
Juan Carlos is, eh, slightly better. I dunno. The vet said she wasn’t sure, but she suspects a virus or some kind of hidden infection.
She also told me not to leave this weekend because I should be keeping a close eye on him, but I have found someone to house sit for me who is a cat person, so he’ll be here. I couldn’t pass this trip up.
But if something happens to Juan Carlos, I will feel like the worst parent ever.
I love That song Trex! Reminds me of hangin out on Broadway waiting for Pearl Harbor and THe Explosions at the ‘Fab Mab…ah…youth.
I’ll settle for an advanced degree in bloviation. I’ll even make my hair look like John Gibson!
And for Eli, who will no doubt say something clever about it whether he likes it or not hehe.
I’m not sure whether I’ve just been complimented or slammed…
who are you calling an over-inflated art project?
when was the last time the dead kennedys did a concert at the berlin wall?
And here I thought we were getting into BDSM territory, with that headline!
DAB
message for you near bottom of last thread. I gotta go to bed now.
TRex- glad you could find a cat person to house sit. Thanks for the update. Man, how stressful. And, I will be thinking of you while I am packing. Finally cool enough inside (no AC) to do that without passing out. My goal is to have the luggage in the car trunk before I crash.
Well, Kurt, it’s giving me kind of a punk-meets-Sha-Na-Na vibe…
I think this is my personal favorite punk song and video.
I’m picturing the kind of Google search that will bring this thread up first:
let’s see . . .
senate . . . punk rock . . . sex pistols . . . dinosaurs . . . coffee tables . . . panties . . .
Yeah, that ought to do it.
Good job, TRex!
If Ned wins, fer sure they’ll be looking harder at bloggers, which began some months ago, as the corrupting stench of the mainstream media started to become too strong to ignore.
There will be several forms of this “harder look” – some wining and dining, but also co-opting and various attempts to destroy the power of the netroots. I fully expect some interesting new forms of warfare to appear, especially in advance of the 2006 and 2008 elections, especially if Ned wins. The net-neutrality fight is an example of this.
The net-neutrality fight is an example of this.
I wonder if establishment Democratic support for net neutrality will suddenly become a lot softer if Ned wins…
Eli #11- It’s a punk post what’s the dif..lol
Buttlhole Surfers and The Meat Puppets…memories
TRex – You really know how to worry a fellow cat person! I did see your off to the vet comment, then, waiting all day for an update. You just have to go to CT, your sitter will do a fine job. So, JC is home this evening?
Josh Marshall just posted this-
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/
We seem to be deep into the phase of the Lieberman-Lamont race in which both sides are angling to game expectations for Tuesday, with the Lamont folks trying to tamp down the expectations created by recent polls and the Lieberman camp, I assume, hoping that a spread of only a few points can be spun as some sort of comeback, though that’ll take some doing.
With that in mind, let’s consult some polls.
You probably know about the latest Quinnipiac poll out yesterday which had Lamont up 54% to 41%. But there’s a new poll out this evening which shows a very similar picture. A Research 2000 poll commissioned the New London Day has it 53% Lamont to 43% for Lieberman. A bit tighter. But basically the same picture.
And remember, that comes after a two week old Rasmussen poll which had it 51% to 41% for Lamont.
I’m not privy to whatever internal polling the two campaigns might be doing. But these public polls show a remarkably consistent picture. Lamont barely, but consistently over 50% and Lieberman barely able to make it over 40%. Add to that the fact that undecideds tend to break strongly for the challenger and you’ve got a very sobering picture shaping up for Lieberman.
And by the way TRex… if you see Lamont, can you make sure to tell him…
SATAN! SATAN! SATAN!
So, JC is home this evening?
He is. He is sitting over by the A/C vent, still looking forlorn.
That reminds me. I need to give him an antibiotic pill. Oh, joy.
Sigh. He really could have picked a better weekend for this.
Cosmo- thanks for links.
AND/BUT CT Lamonters are gonna keep working as hard as they can so 1) Ned wins and 2) Ned wins by the largest possible margin. The greater the margin, the bigger the message.
Hi Trex -
Most importantly, I’m glad Juan Carlos is at least stable and OK for home care and that another cat person can be there for JC (and you).
Loved the post….
but….
after the recent contretemps, is there any chance those new to the blogosphere’s rabid lambs may misuse the title?
I’d be sad to see the bondage post become a wedgie issue.
I’m not so sure that political campaigns will be wooing bloggers with offers of cash and weekends in the Caribbean. More likely that they will be working with Senator Ted Stevens to make sure that Internet access is more expensive and difficult. The Web is the worst thing that ever happened to entrenched political and economic power, and they will be ruthless in trying to turn the clock back.
Eli @ 11
I made a minor snark at Kos, and a Kos bigfoot commented, “I like your cleverness, I really do…” but for the “I really do…”, I would’ve been flattered, now I think I’ve been damned with faint praise. I feel like the narrator of Russo’s “Straight Man” who lives in terror of being called “clever” by his waspish professor-mother.
Thanks Trex, definitely hold out for the annuities, but what about the vehicle? No hybrids either, something heavy and dignified, a lincoln or a caddy, maybe something foreign like a Benz or a Beamer….Don’t forget, they pay for the gas/oil, tires, and insurance. You have to have your assets “working for you;” not tied up in those things that the “little people” have to worry about.
OfT: Must See teevee courtesy of Spazeboy, prior thread
Richard Goodstein goes Ballistic
It’s Joezoe’s lobbyist from the diner, at a rally and he eventually goes off. Lamont people put on a clinic of polite, but determined intervention, finally Mr. Goodstein has to “leave the field.“
TRex — no, don’t do the guilt thing. I’m telling you this as a mother who once was a cat person.
Go. This is not just a nice little vacation. This is life-or-death for our democracy. We need your MORE than your beloved JC needs you, really. You could stay home and the worst could happen in spite of your ministrations — and we’d be one set of hands short in our battle. Or you could stay home and JC would shake it off — and we’d be one set of hands short in our battle.
Give JC a loving squeeze farewell for the weekend with promises of fresh catnip and treats on return, but go and fight the battle, without a whisker twitch of guilt. Nada.
Given similar situation and a sick kid, either of my kids would give me a guilt trip for a bit, but then tell me to get the hell on the road. I can always have one of the two record a short MP3 saying, “Give me a Pokemon cheat book / new set of pierced earrings and then you can go” if that will make you feel better.
kirk murphy @ 25
Yeah, let’s not get all tied up in knots over it.
Trex = You can dis Yes all you want because they suck. Pink Floyd is an all together other matter where you should tread carefully.
The Pistols were signed to EMI when they released Anarchy in the UK.
And they were briefly signed by A&M prior to the release of God Save the Queen.
Many, many bands saved the world from Debbie Boone and her evil clones, and Disco, etc. But that revolution wasn’t started by the Sex Pistols.
Now, I love the Pistols, top five favorite band of all time and part of the music, and fond memories, of my inflationary years, just don’t dis Pink Floyd – Wish You Were Here, Animals and Darkside of the Moon were overproduced?
I made a minor snark at Kos, and a Kos bigfoot commented, “I like your cleverness, I really do…”
I didn’t stick around very long at Kos…
Best wishes for JC, Trex. You, also, by the way.
Clean-up on aisle 22 at 8:53 or am I missing something?
I suspect JMM is right, in that anything under a fifteen per cent spread will be cast as a “close finish” by the Beltway. Anything under ten per cent Ned victory will be painted as a comeback.
It’s amazing what you can find on Wikipedia – it’s, dare I say, omniscient.
Hey TRex- I trust that JC will be in good hands, and just fine when you get back. And, as you know I am a cat person, so I hope you will forgive me for this, which I hope is not too offensive as my attempt at humor: Remember our conversation about cat’s revenge and your vomiting cat? Did JC see you getting out the duffel bag, and checking out the clothes and the shoes? I mean, cats are so good at making their wishes known, if you know what I mean.
Great video mash TRex, great post, thanks for the shoutout. Good evening Firedogs, my day is just starting here, a bit late. Lots to catchup on ….
If you haven’t seen the video on CTBob’s site, you should go H E R E
now to watch the Uber-lieber Lobbyist in action.
That girl has a temper!!
Peterr @ 30
Is this the Trex whipping post?
Valley Girl @ 37
Actually, truth be told, the duffel bag is still sitting in the closet while the laundry goes round and round, so that’s not what set him off. He was running a pretty hefty fever this morning and I still haven’t seen him eat anything, so it’s with much hand-wringing and twinges of guilt that I must go forth.
I just wish he’d eat something. Then I would know that he’s feeling more like himself.
Just stopping by, with a word for certain parties out there in the REAL world.
We, the Internets, will not be HARNESSED like mules, or even DONKEYS. So many of those who sit in high places apparently live in windowless chambers – they do not look long and searchingly at the terrain below them. They should be apprised that we, the Internets, are not beasts of burden, fit only to haul the same old goods to market.
Yes, we range far and wide. Yes, we carry many people and ideas across great distances – but what many of those tower-dwellers fail to grasp is that we carry only under the direction of individual HUMAN actors. We may be ridden, but we will not be yoked.
Just thought we would pass that along.
Best regards,
The Internets
Good night, brother Trex,
and good luck.
Five days that rocked the nation.
Go get ‘em.
I think the tamping down expectations is the right approach. Ned doesn’t have a second chance, he has to win the primary. Joezoe thinks he has a second chance, but probably doesn’t. Judging by the latest Q-poll, Ned’s trend lines appear to be continuing upward on the same slope. I think -ck-’s numbers on the prior thread were on target. What I think, however, doesn’t matter. The intelligent approach is for Lamont to tamp down the expectations to drive turnout.
Valley Girl,
I hear ya. I’m worried about this race, given that just about every squeaker election in the past 5 years in this country has gone to the rightish candidate. The economic and political elites have a lot riding on this one, and they aren’t likely to quit until it’s over on Tuesday. I imagine they will be dragging little old ladies out of nursing homes to the polls.
Kirk- well maybe TRex could change it to “bendage” … or “badinage” perhaps. But only if he sees merit in your point, of course. ;)
Okay, I really, really have to buckle down and pack now.
I’ll check back in later.
John Casper –
Many props for the gracious welcoming you do around these parts. I wouldn’t be surprised if a number of lurkers (or even would-be trolls) end up commenting (and/or resisting the dark side) because of you.
Thanks!
Eli and John Casper -
Thank you for the triangulation info – I had been wondering. I couldn’t thank you earlier, because, of all things, I was at work and there was actual work stuff that had to get done. I don’t know what I am going to do without FDL over the next few days . . .
The Internets @ 40
Just don’t put them away wet.
Much appreciated peterr, astralplame.
Rayne, you’re really wonderful. I could barely take a vacation with family leaving my cat to MY brother, for whom I have little regard, but who is very good with animals. TRex, you will never have this again with so much love from so many people. Please take this with love from one.
Eli @
32
I think I was invited not to stick around … the “post comments” button fell off my dk home page.
Just watched CT Bob’s video of Dickie Goodstein-it’s a hoot. If he was wearing a wig, he would have flipped it!
Oh, TRex… is JC the one who likes to sleep with you? If so, then get that packing done asap so that you can crash and give him plenty of kitty time. Sending JC all my cat love powers.
Peterr – that’s only if you’ve rode ‘em hard, I think! : )
sorry for going OT but just found this tidbit for any western pa fdlers
Rick Santorum
The senator will speak to the Meadville-Western Crawford County Chamber of Commerce at a noon luncheon Friday at the Meadville Country Club. Organizers said the event would draw national media attention, including a visit from ABC News correspondent George Stephanopoulos.
Tickets for the $25 event can be obtained from the chamber office at 814-337-8030.
Evil Parallel Universe @ 31
Hiya, EPU
Saw Pink Floyd (Dark Side of the Moon) at the Forum in L.A., circa 1976? Live, it just wasn’t as good as the “studio” album, by a damn site. Loved the spotlights from all corners of the Forum trained on the full moon when the concert let out though. Wow! ; )
Thanks RevDeb. Just sent you an email with my contact info. Hope to see you and other FDLers this weekend.
I think I was invited not to stick around … the “post comments” button fell off my dk home page.
It could just be that your login cookie expired or something. That happens to me at First Draft, but they allow anonymous comments.
astralplame @ 54
How else does a FirePup ride the Internets?
So meanwhile, anyone with a comcast.net email address is going to have to change it to TimeWarner whatever. Just got my mega-conglomerate merger notice in the mail today. sigh.
marily — the kids and I dog-sat for my best friend when she went on a 10-day vacation in Europe this spring. The poor dog has had a kidney disease for which he’s been treated, is also about 10 years old, getting on in years for a big dog. He developed a bladder infection the day after she left town; ended up having to collect a urine specimen, get it analyzed, give him meds, work out checks with other care providers and so on…it was the best thing in the world for my kids, because they figured out they aren’t ready for the responsibility of a dog, although they were very solicitous of his needs and helpful. Cat ready, yes, but not a dog. And my girlfriend had a lovely vacation with her spouse, didn’t have to worry.
There’s a silver lining in this, it’s just not obvious to those most affected at the moment. Maybe in your case it’s the only thing that allowed you to see your brother without other stuff in the way. Bet TRex has some hidden silver lining in this cloudy situation, too.
Just got my mega-conglomerate merger notice in the mail today. sigh.
My mail was much happier. I got DVDs of The Love Butcher and Street Trash, two of the greatest movies ever made.
It’s hard to have a conversation at Kos, when the trolls aren’t effectively corralled, and the regulars are more interested in quoting the “this is a Democratic site blah blah blah” rigamarole thingy than actually talking. I like the site, but the community is a little different than here hehe.
Oh, and another punk moment hehe.
BTW, Jane, thanks for the kick-ass black and white of the material girl on your prior thread.
By the way, my abused and now loved cat survived, although I left her under a bed with a tortured goodbye; and came back with her being fine, healthy, and not hating me too much. (The first night was the worst for me.) I couldn’t take a shower without her in the room for a while, but she’s over it now. And I garnered more love and experiences that I could have known that have make me a better parent/owner. Keep on, TRex. We need you.
They’re giving their customers a year to change over though, so I guess it won’t be too jarring. :)
I am glad that other people did not relish deep Kos-ing. I didn’t, and thought that there must be some deficiency.
Rather, I know for a fact that there are many deficiencies in my character, but only thought that non-Kos-compatability was one of them.
FDL saved me from all of that . . .
Did you order them or do you just get surprises like that on a regular basis?
Gee,
I got here late and missed the blogger rule of rapid response! Damn. I’ve been Court Jester to the Deaniacs since 2002 and I’m equiped with a genuine plan to save Human Civilization!
But I wasn’t among the first 25 responders.
Damn.
Is it just me or has the MSM nearly ignored the demonstration in Baghdad today? While DC politicians dicker themselves over the semantic refinements of sectarian violence v. civil war, our soldiers on the ground have no such election year hesitation. They are calling it what it is – civil war. The horrible probability of border spillover will leave the US military in the region like sitting ducks. Isn’t anyone in BushCo fearing this? Is this the next August Katrina moment?
Oh, and another punk moment hehe.
Good Lord, she’s a Dalek.
Did you order them or do you just get surprises like that on a regular basis?
I ordered them.
Weep with envy.
I am glad that other people did not relish deep Kos-ing. I didn’t, and thought that there must be some deficiency.
It felt like work to me.
Rayne, you’re still too wonderful.
meta – What little tv surfing I allowed myself. The demo was all over the screen. When peaceful Iraqi demonstrations are larger in number than the troup population. It’s another loud message.. time to go home America. What part of please go home does Bushco not understand?
John Casper @ 65
hehe, another Material Girl
droolerfan hereEureka, thanks. Yeah, it seems like a good time to get out of their way.
If you wanna hear Hope…she’s on Mike Malloy right now…
It was really inspiring, and a bit sad, to see a peaceful political gathering in Bagdad. One reporter mentioned how peaceful it was while another 24 plus bodies were found in other parts of town. They elected a Gov. and want us to leave.
What channel?
There’s a good expose of the Uber-lieber Lobbyist Richard Goodstein up on kos HERE.
He’s been re-christened Lieber-thug and it sure fits. Give it a read if you want to know who that paid jackboot is that’s showing up everywhere Ned goes ….
An EPU’d response to EPU –
Evil Parallel Universe at 8:25 pm*
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…..ent-224582
I beg to differ; after Watergate, both parties broke down, and politics became every politician for themselves.
Jimmy Carter? Elected as an outsider, running against Washington.
Ronald Reagan? Elected in a landslide, running against Washington.
GHW Bush? Won as an Anti-Tax, Anti-Establishmentarian opponent of a Tax and Spend LIBERAL.
Bill Clinton? Won as a communitarian outsider, with a big assist from the Anti-Establishment Ross Perot.
The American Political Parties broke down after Watergate; in the wake of this breakdown, every candidate became a free lancer, running against Washington and their own party establishment.
On the GOP side, the barbarian wing nuts were poised to take over; when GW Bush recognized the potential of the wing nut / evangelical durable majority, the arc of power was set in motion.
On the Democratic side, all candidates were free lancers, sucking the K-Street tit, while mouthing empty platitudes for the rubes back home, while they did K-Street’s NAFTA CAFTA bidding.
The pissed off Democrats, Nutmeggers and Netroots, are poised to mount Joe Leiberman’s head on a pike — as a lesson to the other Dems, who play GOP Lite corporate footsie.
And that — in a Nutmeg Shell — is how we got here, and where we are at.
Just a question – thought certainly the cat would be staying at the vet. But since he is home, he is staying hydrated? The vet told me that if hydrated, with antibiotics, they can handle any virus much better.
Did they hydrate him at the vet? Remember Baby Mittens did better after giving him some doctored water (if I am remembering) and then he felt like nursing a bit.
No meta, I think you’re correct.
The NYT’s covered it pretty pretty well, I thought, relative to everyone else in the U.S.
The WaPo had a photo on their web site this am, but IIRC, didn’t mention the 100,000 Shiites up front, which was pretty important. We have about @130,000 troops total in Iraq and Sadar has 100,000 in Baghdad yelling, “DEATH TO AMERICA.” Hmmmm, does anyone remember the Little Big Horn?
I just googled it, and almost all the coverage except the NYT’s was international.
With the TM would replay DeadEye saying on MTP, “.…we will be greeted as liberators.”
Air America Baby…we’re at commercial..
Cozumel @ 9:26
I couldn’t stand Madonna when she first came out. And then she did that Like a Prayer video, and revealed herself to be more than just a dumb popstar hehe.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 9
I think we called them “PHATE”. Hillary Stench was in PHATE, wasn’t he?
From -ck-
Funny how Lamont just wants to get his party back.
yes! hillary…they were such a good band.
off the phone with Mike…
OMG I multi-tasked…
Funny how Lamont just wants to get his party back.
That’s right — we are rebuilding the Democratic Party one progressive politician at a time . . .
HopeSAT – fill in those of us on dial up, por favor..
I was fixated on their white clothing. A message that no one can deny. Couple that with the info that Al-Maliki has had a long relationship with Hezbollah, and no amount of cajoling from the US Congress will change that.
Evil Parallel Universe @ 4
I’m here, EPU, just taking a while to catch up. I think you are mostly correct. (Of course I do! There’s enough lightning in Florida without calling down more.) If I might offer the teensiest quibble, I think it was possible for persons of good will to work across party lines before Reagan. For example, I voted for Pete McCloskey and Jacob Javits. Of course, Javits wound up leaving the GOP and Pete, bless him, has just consigned his party to the outer reaches of Hades, but once upon a time it was possible. Not any more.
Cozumel @ 76
Guilty as charged, counselor.
Kurt, now she is a rich pop star.
Mike Malloy Show, AAR, Aug 4, hour 3 part one and two…he had me on over 2 breaks. Long call-in call.
I think you need AAR premium now to listen, but I’m not sure. I just started using firefox and I’m not versed in it’s usage yet.
Thanks for asking.
meta @ 93
I didn’t know that about Maliki and Hezbollah. Is that what people mean about the Shi’ite Crescent? I heard on the radio today the Kuwait is also a Shi’ite majority governed by Sunnis? and Uzbekistan (?), non-arab Shi’ites governed by secular whackjob who boils people and is one of our allies in the War on Terra. I could be confusing my Stans.
Trouble in paradise? From Raw:
“Unlike Democratic Senator Joseph Lieberman, Hillary Clinton has largely avoided voter anger on her war stance, according to a front page article slated for Saturday’s New York Times.
Also, Lieberman tells the Times that he was “surprised at all the attention to Senator Clinton calling for Rumsfeld to resign,” claiming that he had done the same as far back as three years ago.”
Looks like somebody’s pumping Hillary again.
You’re too kind, marily. Only speaking from experience on my part; done my share of crying into both cat fur and children’s hair.
Doing my last civics plug for the night before I hit the hay, repeat message of previous threads:
I want to enjoin all of you FirePups who aren’t able to be in CT over the next several days to remember that there are races in your own backyards and across the rest of the country.
There’s an election to be won in November, even if there is no contested primary where you are on Tuesday.
Here’s your marching orders:
– Go to 100actions.com and get today’s Action you can do; catch up and do actions 100-99-98-97. These are things that are simple and easy, eating-an-elephant-one-bite-at-a-time steps.
– Go to DFA-Link.com and find the closest DFA group to you, find out how you can plug into their organization and take local action.
– Go to Meetup.com and find the closest progressive events near you; make a point of encouraging those folks to take 100Actions.com, too.
– Be sure to follow Do More Than Vote (DMTV) as it begins to roll out more sites across the country; hey, maybe you can roll one out, too!
– And join the StatesRootsProject.com along with the rest of us FirePups who are already there; get a login, start adding content and events you find at DFA-Link and Meetup.
– Check the Moveon.org site for the phonebanking efforts this weekend.
I’m going to be pesky and repost this a couple times this weekend, forgive the spam. The lowest level of participation in a democracy is voting; it takes more than that to actually ensure your democracy. Your founding fathers did more than write on a bunch of parchment; they risked their lives taking action. You won’t even have to do anything that strenuous. Now get going and WIN!!!
‘Niters! Have a lovely flight, TRexinator, go get ‘em!!
Hope- AAR has terrible reception where I am, and also I am on dial-up. But, if it turns out that there is some kind of link (archived?) please post. I’d love to listen.
I talked about how my husband is picking up Lebanese civilians in Beirut and taking them back to Germany, and how from there they come here to BAMC. I told him that as a result of my last call to his show my computer crashed and I got a ‘column’ at Powers and Morrison. And asked about What ever happened to the Palestinian doctor and his brother that were kidnapped the day before Israel started bombing Lebanon. Big sigh. Guess that about covers it.
evil parallel universe, i concur, tho it wasn’t the full floyd, that was the gist of my comment at 12.
i rented the dvd of roger waters doing “the wall” at the berlin wall, starring (among others) tim curry, marianne faithful, sinead o’connor, van morrison, albert finney, cyndi lauper, joni mitchell, rupert everett, thomas dolby, bryan adams, and of course, roger waters…
they spent the first 3/4 of the concert actually building a wall (about 500 ft by 80 ft high) and then, when they sang “tear down the wall,” the wall fell.
my god, i actually teared up as i watched, there alone in my living room on a sunny afternoon.
very, very powerful stuff.
don’t even get me started on dark side of the moon and animals
pink floyd is a lot of things, but it is not something to dismiss nonchalantly.
Thanks VG..I know you can get the podcast at AAR. I have NO IDEA about the dial-up thing. And I loved your bit about the moderators 2 threads back, thank you for all you’ve done for fdl.
bdu @
13
It’s a song by the X-Ray Spex. “Some people think that little girls should be seen and not heard – well I think: Oh, Bondage! Up Yours! 1, 2, 3, 4″
TRex – Oh, by the way, if you see your mom this weekend, will you be sure and tell her…
http://political.moveon.org/ph…..w&t=4
move on link for phone bank CT
ENGAGE…NOT RAGE .
Ditto, he typed in a remarkably unRush-like fashion.
P.S. How about that Sadly No! thread? Glad you came back to the land of the living, T-Rex?
Jim @ 98
You may be largely correct Jim, I don’t know, but Wikipedia disagrees wrt Kuwait.
According to the linked post, Kuwait is around 70% are Sunni and 30% are Shia.
Also, Lieberman tells the Times that he was “surprised at all the attention to Senator Clinton calling for Rumsfeld to resign,” claiming that he had done the same as far back as three years ago
I know Lieberman was vo-ciferously defending Rumsfeld after Abu Grahib. When the bleedin’ bloody hell does he think he called for Rumsfeld’s resignation?
Jim @
98
Laura Rozen did some digging around about Maliki and Hezbollah.
http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/004648.html
Recall that Maliki refused to condemn Hezbollah on his recent trip to DC, and several Dems refused to attend his speech to congress. It’s all very loaded.
Hope- if there is a podcast (MP3?) I can download it and then listen.
Oh, I just checked out the site. It’s on Premium. Looks like it is possible to get a free day pass, tho. I can figure out the dial-up stuff later. Here’s the link. Can you tell me what part of the show you were on? See link-
http://www.airamerica.com/prem…..p?bid=1274
Jim at 9:56, you’re absolutely correct. Someone had a link to Joezoe’s defense of Rumsfeld wrt Iraqi prisons earlier today at FDL.
Rayne, tomorrow afternoon, phone banks. I am thrilled to be a part of what I have been a semi-partitipant in for 6 months, and a believer in taking our democracy back. I worked for Kerry in ‘04 and because of an illness and the intense work I did for him, became ill after the election (really the wrong word.) Devestating. My work would be seen as minor to some, but it devestated my health for months, so it was not minor to me.
Nothing concentrates the mind, like one’s impending execution.
Funny how HoJo is suddenly remembering all sorts of Anti-Bush positions, that no one can find any record of . . .
By the way, the Pentagon “estimated” 14,000 Shiites showed up for Moqtada Al Sadrs’ “million Mullah march”.
-GSD
Jim @ 110
Maybe HoJo was confusing “resignation” with “assignation.” We know how much he likes to pucker up for Der Chimpenfuhrer.
I believe Mike Malloy is still archived at
http://www.whiterosesociety.org
You might have to wait a day before tonight’s broadcast is available. I think it’s still free.
Evening, firedogs!
Is my transplanted homie Eli still there?
I’ve been listening to that song for nearly 30 years without those images going through my head. That video is a very strange take on the song.
TRex, you have a good time up there in CT. This trip was meant to be, otherwise it would not have happened. Good things happen to good people.
how is everybody this evening?
David Olsen- thanks for that link re AAR. http://www.whiterosesociety.org/
I will check it out. Ben Burch (Whiterose) did awesome duty back when Brad Friedman was broadcasting from “Camp Casey”, by providing a mirror site, among other kindnesses. We exchanged some comments on BradBlog at the time, and he is a real gent. He is a great fan of Powells Books, back from when they were in Chicago (?if I recall correctly) and he hung out there. So, if anyone has some extra $$ to send out (I see they are having a fundraiser) this is a worthy place to give some dollars.
marily –
We were all devastated by Kerry’s loss — it sounds like you took it really hard, to the point where your health suffered.
My mental and physical health have suffered ever since the Bush and his den of thieves took over the country; the good news is, Ned Lamont and the Netroots are just what the doctor ordered . . .
Hi Captain Goto –
Eli was around earlier — but since it’s 1:20 AM his time, my guess is he checked out.
Cozumel @ 76
Man, I was at her drowned world concert her first show after sept. 11. I still remember how electric it was when she got up on stage with the stars and stripes kilt instead of the plaid. (God that sounds so vapid, but it was really cool, an acknowledgement of what had happened.) Meant even more that you knew the proceeds of your tickets went to the 9/11 charities. Funny, american flags started popping up everywhere on clothes after that.
alyosha @
18
Having finally started to go through the thread and I agree…can you say ‘wonkette’?
Jenny from the Blog @ 61
Arrrggghhhh…not again. This is the 1st I’ve heard of this. As a comcast.net tube user, I am very interested to say the least.
I’ve googled it but with no result. Do you have any more gory details?
Ta!
Eli was around earlier — but since it’s 1:20 AM his time, my guess is he checked out.
You don’t know me very well…
Hiya, Cap’n!
JftB
No worries…I have roadrunner and I have to say they are pretty good; responsive. And their techies are in BC and ever-so nice.
-ck- @ 124
The Kerry campaign was my first. I gave up all my vacation to sign-up voters in Ohio and GOTV in Penn. I was so crushed. I had a huge fight with my father, it took me a long time.
Just have to say…late at night being all alone, coming in here and just seeing the names of people I like and feel comfortable with is a huge comfort.
internets @ 41, yah.
and yah, again.
peas!
OT and just what I heard lo these many years ago: At the Scots airport where Madonna’s plane was to land, she had requested a police guard to the castle, where she was to be married. The request was denied. The local spokesperson said, “She may be the queen of pop. But she’s not ours.” Well said.
marily- I cannot tell you how pissed off I was at Kerry- the Ohio part of the “election” was a complete fraud and I will never forgive him for not fighting that to the utmost, especially in light of his big whoha about making every vote count. In fact, if another Dem wanted to challenge Kerry for his senate seat (a progressive Dem, that is) I would get behind it. For a while it seemed that he thought he had a chance in 08. Dumb ass.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 90
HAHAHAHA!
I didn’t catch you on Malloy. What’dya say?
_ck_ I have an illness already. I knew what I was doing, but it was what I believed in. Just sent me a message about my limitations. Which was hard on both levels. But I’m there tomorrow pm and working. It’s all good.
Hi Mad Dogs -
Here’s how the letter starts out:
“As of July 31, 2006 we’ve replaced Comcast as your new cable company, etc…”
They promise a smooth transition but say you will have to switch email addresses within the year. Maybe there won’t be a changeover in your area yet, but in L.A. it’s happening.
This is from the website under FAQ:
What the hell! Our email addresses are going to be roadrunner.net? I don’t like the sound of that!
Here’s the site:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/welcome/
goodnight, all!
HopeSprings -
Thanks for letting me know. I hate change. :)
Just have to say…late at night being all alone, coming in here and just seeing the names of people I like and feel comfortable with is a huge comfort.
We’re the nightroots.
VG..I was catching up…parts 1, 2, and 3. i was on fro a while.
HopeSpringsATurtle @
97
Hour 3…three…the number… after two…; )
Hey TRex — Bon Voyage!
Btw, did you see what Donita did for you earlier today?
Click me, click me reaaal good!
VG @ 135
Rarely been as ashamed of a Dem as when Kerry did his hunting pander (RGJoe has eclipsed Kerry, though). Bad politics, extraordinary lack of wisdom. I wanted to hide – my GOPFriends consoled me, and they were sincere!
little dog, brief synopsis:
HopeSpringsATurtle @
102
Eli @ 140
awesome
Thanks Astral…
And now its cocktail time!! I’m gonna have…ummm..a Heinken lite…what can I get everyone?
bottle of cider for me, please
Hope- sorry- I just caught that in your last message and deleted my comment with the question. I seem to be challenged this eve. Reading comprehension. Sorry. Three, two, one…
jack and coke, if its not too presumptuous…
We all know the media has written their script, so why not use it?
Let everyone know that sitting Senators and Reps are now on notice–start producing real results that will benefit all of us–and stop (or even reverse) Bush–or we’ll run people against them. Let them get nervous–the DC people (especially incumbents) listen to the talking heads more than anyone, and if this is what the talking heads are saying the job is half done.
kristine I will change your life with a Maker’s Mark and coke…comin right up…ok..that’s a cider (pear alright ma’am?)…
Hope- I’d take a Miller Lite, but I’m not sure how much longer I can stall on packing for the flight tomorrow. Don’t know why it’s so hard, but it is.
lovely, thanks!
I agree Amber. I think its totally important just to be on the ‘radar screen’.
Jenny from the Blog at 138:
I know you were signing off, but perchance that you’re still here.
I’m just guessing that your switch from Comcast to Timewarner is an LA thingie and may not be applicable to me here in Minnesota.
No such notice here. At least I’m hoping that’s the case. *g*
VG..me too I have laudry to do for Germany and stil, I put it off. How ’bout Heineken Lite, very tasty…
Hope- if you reload or use F5 you will see that I realized that my question about the hour was… silly. Duh.
Marker’s mark and coke, eh? Why not? Don’t get on offer like that every night….
Okay, I’ll try Heineken Lite but not tonite. No access except virtual.
If this has already been posted, my apologies.
Our own Jane was pictured (great pic!) and quoted in this NYT article:
In Race, Bloggers Throw Curves and Spitballs
And there is no way that she is 47! Maybe 35, but not a minute older! *g*
VG…NP its hard to chat hee ‘real time’ but its usually what ends up happening…La ti da.
OT, but I just got an email from Charlie Brown’s campaign letting his supporters know he’ll be here tomorrow. With the subject line reading LIVE BLOGCHAT WITH CARLIE BROWN! (all caps in the original) it continues:
I contributed a little sumpin’ to his campaign when LindaR recommended him so highly. I hope we have a lot of company from his district tomorrow; we’ll have to make sure any newbies get our usual warm welcome.
Mad…not to float my own boat but I’n 44. Click my name and scroll down a bit to Swim Deep.
VG, I know. It was so disappointing. Just got a new/old digital camera and have The Times perfectly juxtapositioned with Krugman/Hamsher, and just sitting here. I feel a Kodak moment if I can get and sent it: love to you, dear person.
Ok – night all. Cider always makes me sleepy… Good night, morning or afternoon to each of you -
BB…I gave Charlie money too and some one that works for the campaign called into Mike Malloy right after me. MIke is gonna try and have Charlie on his show as well as Jerry Mcnerny. Good news.
SWeet ones Astral
hi marily!
totally, Hope–we have to make lemonade out of DC’s cluelessness or we’re sunk.
I don’t see why a vote to fund a useless, partial, xenophobic fence went 97-3 (see this at Am Street) If our elected officials are really such cowards, then let them be cowed by us instead of the GOP and talking heads.
I can’t resist–I posted this late in the Donita thread, but here it is again.
I give you, Piano Man….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62VIyM0jPX8
Mad…not to float my own boat but I’n 44. Click my name and scroll down a bit to Swim Deep.
Ohmigod.
I look young for my age, but not especially attractive…
Hope,
I saw your pic there last week I think, and there is no way you can be 44 unless you got a full body makeover! *g*
Or you’ve got genes that keep you looking like 30 until you’re 75 and then everything goes to pieces.
What’s this world coming to if women don’t age? LOL!
Coming in late, and don’t want to piss in the punchbowl, and you know I loves me some TRex, but the Sex Pistols were in large part the commercial creation of Malcolm McLaren, whose idea was less rebellion and more capitalism.
Still, they were pretty fun.
We need an August Ninth Roots Project plan to contact ALL our Senate Dems and tell them they must now support Connecticut’s Democratic nominee. There can’t be any lag time. Those of us who are staying in place, need to contact our Senators that very Wednesday.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 167
Very good news, Hope. Oh, and of course the email subject line said Charlie, not Carlie — and I used preview, too. Preview is everybody’s friend, except late at night. (The reference to Howie as a “renown” blogger is in the original, though.)
In tomorrow’s NYT, it quotes that 11,500 registered voters have changed from “unaffiliated” to “Democrat”. Same old crap about Leiberman pulling back on his GOTV, and the cliche that Ned’s a “multi-millionaire upstart”, but interesting article nonetheless.
Aloha TRex. Best to you in CT. I’ll hopefully have my “Ode to TRex” video post done while you’re still there and I’ll send you the link.
Aloha to you to HopeSprings. Looking forward to the Deutschland?
ValleyGirl! Some Aloha for you as well even though my last few emails have gone completely ignored. I hope your submission project wrapped up nicely and you made it up north for a respite.
Nate!!! OMG It’s so nice to see you here. yes looking forward to D-land and I was on Malloy again tonight. When the cats away the mouse does play…
I just wish she would do the laundry…
You got podcast HopeSprings…?
I haven’t had a chance to catch any of his show and would love to hear you on it.
Shoe
I think ultimately the registering shows a hopeful surge in the electorate which is exactly what we need nationwide. people talked about the billbray/buzby race being the ‘bellweather’ for democrats but I see Neds race as being the true indicator for the anger in the country toward the goopers.
Nate
This is the best I can do…I’m on firefox now and don’t quite know my way around yetHopeSpringsATurtle @ 141
Bullshit! And happily so! Tonight on MSNBC, they said that the reason that Hilary called for Rumsfeld’s resignation was because of Ned’s showing in the polls. A week from now all of them will blame it on Jane.
Hmmmm
TRex,
I was really into folk music and these four long-haired Englishmen came over and wrecked that scene about the time Dylan deserted us and went to Rock and Roll. Later in the 70’s I learned to love Pink Floyd and the others you described as overproduced, just as Punk came in a destroyed them.
Bet if I were to take my blogging skills and sell out, there would be some new import from England – GB to destroy the blogging scene. That’s my luck.
So I guess I better get an iron-clad contract with one Hell of a great termination payoff, right?? [One learns as one gets older - go with the flow (find the Tao) of reality, but get insurance and buy futures. Oh, and always use someone else’ money. Finance is NOT reality, and you can win in both up and down markets.]
medaka @ 81
I tried to watch Bob’s clip but had trouble running it – kept stopping and starting. But did watch enough to see what an a$%& he is.
I don’t doubt that he is a friend of Lieberman’s, as well as a lobbyist for the health care and pharmaceutical industries. If this is the best Lieberman can do in terms of getting friends and/or heavy hitters to help out in the waining days of the campaign – he might as well throw in the towel now. I don’t know what Goodstein thinks he’s accomplishing – but he is revealing exactly what’s wrong with establishment Dems.
Why does this have to be either Clinton’s or Sharpton’s Democratic party. Are those our only choices?
How about this, Goodstein? Connecticut voters are retaking control of the Dem party in CT. This election is CT Dems telling Lieberman that we don’t like what he’s selling and informing him that his services are no longer needed. L
et’s not let this turkey frame the discussion. It’s OUR party – we’ve worked hard for it. And, by the way, we’re not going away – we will work tirelessly for candidates like Lamont.
Clearly Waters, Jackson and Sharpton coming to CT to campaign for Lamont has gotten under Lieberman’s skin.
HSAT 182 -
Exactly. The fact that 11,500 CT voters have recently registered as “Democrats” means they are very intent on voting – as “Democrats”, not as “Joe Democrats” , or whatever party name he flirts with running under.
Ned’s got the GOTV-mentum on his side.
Rayne – so glad you subscribed to the new roots site. Mary too!!
1. I agree Pink Floyd in concert is not the same as on record.
2. CK – Your have a right to disagree and I have a right to not change my mind. I actually admire Reagan’s political skills even if I disliked his policies. And Clinton had the same skills. But running “against” Washington is not the same as running without a party. Reagan ran against Carter the Democrat and all the things that supposedly stood for – bad economic policy, government over-regulation, bloated social welfare programs and spending on the wrong things (social programs vs. the military), vs. the Republican paradigm of laissez faire, a balanced budget, cutting welfare programs and a spending more on the military. Those are party identifiers, not personal ones, and those are what the public voted on. Was Reagan a charasmatic leader? Yes he was, but it was the selling of the supposed Repug vision vs. the caricatured Dem vision of America that won the election.
As for Clinton – the short answer is that he was Reagan in a donkey suit, selling the Democratic party paradigm against a caricature of the Repug party paradigm as uncaring and unsympathetic to the needs of the average American. In other words, Clinton was really using the traditional Democratic party paradigm of representing the “working” man. Nothing new in that and nothing personal about that. Was he a charasmatic leader? Yes, but that is not what won him the election.
3. BarbaraB – Was politics different prior to Atwater and Rove? Yes, that I can’t disagree with. It no doubt was gentler and kinder and the ability to compromise existed. But rather than support the idea that politics has somehow changed from party oriented to personality, I think it supports more the idea that the parties during the time you mentioned were closer in position to one another then after the neonuts took control of the repugs. Even Goldwater, prior to his death, said he didn’t recognize what his party had become, and I don’t think Reagan would recognize it either.
No one’s thrown out Nixon vs. Kennedy, where personality probably did play a role. However, at the end of the day, regardless of Nixon’s unlikeable qualities and unfriendly, even scary, affect, he came pretty close to winning. And I find it hard to believe that most of the people voting for him did so b/c they thought he was charming, but rather wanted to see a repug in office.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 145
Oh, I’m glad you got to tell them that. Did you tell him about Cher coming to visit?
And what did happen to the Palestinian doc and his brother?
DAB 185 — Goodstein isn’t the swiftest car in the garage, is he? CtBob’s video shows him calling Al Sharpton a “divisive” force, and we already know he thinks being an “Al Sharpton Democrat” is an insult. Somehow I doubt that the Lieberman campaign is going to stick those quotations under too many windshield wipers in black church parking lots this Sunday. Although maybe someone should…naw, that would be tacky. At least it would be too tacky for the official Lamont campaign. Maybe someone should just play the tape for the ministers and let them draw their own conclusions.
EPU
Good points all. The cult of personality is key though. George Bush has picked Yosemite Sam (psshoo…psshoo..smoke ‘em out…dead or alive…) and look how well that worked out for him. Regarless of platform or policy or party for that matter Americns are aculturated to love celebrity. And if you’re good-looking or funny or seem like the kinda guy you wanna have a beer with you catch America’s attention.
I was on the road all day so I don’t know if this was posted…good article
Say That You’ll Go, Joe
As Joementum runs backwards in Connecticut, the senator may be facing a very tough choice next week.
By Harold Meyerson
Web Exclusive: 08.04.06
snip
Joementum is running backwards in Connecticut. When Quinnipiac polled in early June, Lieberman held a 15 point edge. In its poll of July 20, however, Lamont had pulled into a four-point lead. Now, he’s up by 14. Which, as events would have it, is the identical figure as the percentage of voters who say they haven’t yet made up their minds.
snip
So Lieberman isn’t losing because a blogger lurks behind every tree in Connecticut’s bosky dells.
snip
The game’s over, Joe. The party needs to focus its attention on picking up seats this fall. Joe Lieberman can go out with class. Or he can go down as the guy whose last act in electoral politics was a spoiler. The choice is entirely his.
whole article here…
http://www.prospect.org/web/pa…..leId=11806
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 191
I am convinced that one of the decisive factors in Dubya getting elected in 2000 was that there were a lot of voters who just thought it would be cool to have the president’s son be president, too. I think that same unthinking “Wouldn’t it be cool if…” impulse got Schwarzenegger and Ventura elected as well.
LD
Mike didn’t know, had no update but of course, it’s because those kidnap victims are Palestinian. The shocking part is that no one has done any follow-up on it. It is repeated ad nauseam that this war started over Hezbollah taking the 2 Israeli soldiers hostage. and that is simply not true.
CC…I still haven’t caught upon this thread yet…thanks for that, its really good.
Eli @ 193
And Enron, in Arnolds case…
The Celeb factor was definitly part of both of those campaigns (Vent/Schwart). I think the other factors were whatever they had to say or platform on was driven, or riding I should say, on the coatails of celebrity. IMHO.
And Enron, in Arnolds case…
Enron opened up the opportunity, but it didn’t give Arnie an advantage over any of the other runoff candidates, except insofar as it led to a shortened, wide-open campaign where voters wouldn’t really get the chance to see just how clueless he was.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 197
There was a great bit on SNL where Carl Weathers was running for governor of, well, anywhere, solely on the basis of having been in Predator with Arnie and Jesse.
Hi Hope-Eli & New: You guys are up late.
consider the “image both of them had in the public eye. Big, strong, take-no-bullshit kinda guys. Americans LOVE that. We think it refelcets what kind of people we are. They were both VERY popular and that gave them a stage to talk about how they were gonna change things. GWB has benifited from this same persona.
Yosemite Sam…PSSHOO…dead or alive.
Exactly Eli…(hug) hi Doll.
I just got back from Ft. Lauderdale–I drove there this morning on business. I was going to spend the night but I didn’t have an internet connection so I drove home. Am I addicted?
I’m tellin’ ya that Yosemite Sam thing is spot-on.
Hi Hope-Eli & New: You guys are up late.
Not for long…
BTW, I put up a “best-of” photo album in case you’re interested.
cc…that is so cute…
Hope: what yosemite sam thingee…help…to much to read. If it is importand, please save me some time
Naturally, I am extremely unhappy about the most recent events in Afghanistan. There have been four Canadian dead and ten wounded in one day. American translation: 40 dead and 100 wounded. Why are we even there? Why are Canadian and other NATO forces striving to make the world safe for Americans and the Bushian Middle East doctrine in particular?
In the first instance, many of the prim residents of the lake would argue we are making the whole world safer from those evil, bearded, hook-nosed Muslim devils who hate our freedom. Really? Why is my country and NATO spending dozens (eventually hundreds) of lives of our citizens and billions of our treasure? The true answer is to make up for years of American cheapness, venality, and incompetence. Many journalists have forwarded complaints of Canadian and NATO officers that the US military was only interested in ‘driving around looking for bad guys.’ They had no understanding of counterinsurgency principles. In some southern provinces of Afghanistan at most 100 American soldiers were stationed after nearly five years.
Really, there are many days and weeks when the folks here appear as nothing more than the good Germans of another era.
(hug) hi Doll.
*quickly checks to see if HSAT is talking to someone behind me*
oh–very funny (and sad, and rudepundit-esque) piece by Matt Taibbi in Rolling Stone on Brooks and the DLC.
Eli…gorgeous! I like ‘green chair’, ‘roof’ and ’sky’
consider the “image both of them had in the public eye. Big, strong, take-no-bullshit kinda guys. Americans LOVE that. We think it refelcets what kind of people we are.
That’s pretty much it. Republicans have figured out how to play to Americans’ vanity and “America, fuck yeah!” mentality.
I am interested Eli-I love your pics. I didn’t know you do prints! The prints you do…are they just of your pics or any pics?
Hope – Even I have to admit that there is a certain cult of personality around Bush these days. But prior to their failures I would argue that the marketing symbols -commander codpiece, steely eyed cowboy – were used to establish repug party themes in Chimpy, and not Chimpy themes in the repug party.
These days the cult is different, at least for those in the Palace guard. It is a fall back position from having their iteration of standard repug party themes thrown in their faces by their abject failures at, really, everything, and, and this is really more important (at least to me), the fact that many of those themes when taken to their extreme don’t sit that well with a majority of Americans. Not that its proof, but I think the fact that most repugs in elections are seeking to distance themselves from Chimpy is telling – that the cult of personality isn’t one that many are willing to bet their careers on.
Le Jackel
How do you say ‘pawn’ au Francais?
Eli…gorgeous! I like ‘green chair’, ‘roof’ and ’sky’
Thanks!!!
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 191
Eli @ 212
But how’s that gonna play when “Team America” is losing all over the world?
I am interested Eli-I love your pics. I didn’t know you do prints! The prints you do…are they just of your pics or any pics?
All that “order prints” stuff is just standard Yahoo photo album stuff, but I *do* in fact do prints. I have a very nice HP photo printer that make gorgeous prints up to 13″ X 19″, and I’m toying with the idea of setting up a Paypal site to sell some, since spork’s gallery owner hasn’t called me…
But how’s that gonna play when “Team America” is losing all over the world?
It’ll play fine – just don’t let on that we’re losing. Admittedly, that strategy is starting to show some cracks…
Holy Nightroots Batman! (love that, Nightroots)
It’s taken me all day long and night just to catch up, had to go help out a girlfriend last night and enjoyed a few brewskis, a band, and some pool. The threads have been great and I see I’ve missed alot!
Waving to Mrs. K8 and marky, and a couple more old FDL friends I haven’t seen their names in awhile that I’m too tired to recall at the moment. Was that Sam of Sam & Jake fame that also weighed in?
Good Luck TRex on your trip tomorrow, we know you’ll have the time of your life. I’m on the edge of my seat along with everyone else as the excitement builds towards Tuesday night.
Hope:
Howzit in Tejas?
I totally see it the other way around. ‘Commander Dickhead’ was perhaps an extension of rethug platform but chimpy sold the country on what a ‘cool’ guy he is. Traditional gop platform is all about econ and smaller gov’t, free trade, blah blah bla, Americans are fucking bored by that stuff. They want a guy that seems like them. Enter chimpy
Evil Parallel Universe @ 214
I have come to the conclusion that there is only one hope left and the women in this world are holding it. I think that all women need to walk out of work and they need to cut them off from sexual favors until the boys put down their weapons and get their shi_ together. Of course, I know all men are not responsible for all this mess…just the ones with the power to make things happen. I mean, what’s with Mrs. Cheney and Mrs. Bush and Mrs. Rumsfeld? How can they sleep next to these men? How can they face people in their families? These women need to be questioned “Do you know what your husband is doing? Isn’t this war worse than finding out your hubby is cheating on you? What keeps these women from speaking out?
Evil Parallel Universe @
188
Don’t disagree that the good ol’ USA might in fact now be Repug territory and we’re fighting an uphill battle. But Kennedy would’ve won in a landslide in 1960 had he not been Catholic.
The times they’ve been a changin’ since the 70’s and we’re fighting to retake ground here we’ve lost post-Vietnam for a myriad of reasons.
Who would have ever thought that the anti-war movement and the counter-culture of the 60’s would produce Lee Atwater, the Young Republicans. and the Karl Rove/Grover Norquist/Newt Gingrich axis?
DAB @ 186
I totally see it the other way around. ‘Commander Dickhead’ was perhaps an extension of rethug platform but chimpy sold the country on what a ‘cool’ guy he is. Traditional gop platform is all about econ and smaller gov’t, free trade, blah blah bla, Americans are fucking bored by that stuff. They want a guy that seems like them. Enter chimpy
He got elected on name and beer-having-with-ness, and he got re-elected on steely resolve.
By the was, TRex, this video is for you:
On The Road Again.
Hope – Nixon? I don’t disagree about celebrity, but Chimpy isn’t Arnold or Reagan, or even Sonny Bono. And I think you are being anti-yosemitic. If Chimpy has based his personality on any cartoon character, it’s Nasty Canasta.
Pharmaceuticals.
lol at 229
Canned Heat! Thanks, SteveAudio.
hiya Steve Baby. can I get you something? A cocktail perhaps?
nitey-niteroots
Suzanne 232:
I saw them 3 or 4 times “back in the day” as the kids say. Pretty fun live band.
I remember New Year’s Eve going into ‘69…
HSAT 232:
Thinking about a little wine, although I’m very open to suggestions…
Eli: I used to think of things that I would like to toy with but now I just go ahead and DO IT. It is much easier to quit doing it than wondering if you should. I thank you for the link and tomorrow morning when I have my coffee I will look forward to looking through your pics. That bird shot earlier this week was great!
OT – and checking to see if this is a way to get around my posts from laptop going into the netherworld.
Just Let People Rot at Gitmo – Per Goldsmith & Posner
I never bought the beleagured, put upon hero in OLC, fighting to preserve law, moralsand minimal shreds of national values – despite the spin in the “Palace Revolt” PR piece. You like to think that there were honest professionals, dedicated to the law, somewhere in the Atty Gen, Dep Atty Gen, Office of Legal Counsel, etc. crew. Aw, heck who would really even hold out for dedication these days – even a nodding acquaintance with the rule of law would be enough to order a ticker tape parade.
Despite the pr spin of landing the right stories in the right places at the right time – I still think Comey and Goldsmith have hurt this country horribly, right up there with anything done by Rove, Bush, Cheney, or the AGs Ashcroft and Gonzales.
Fresh from the letters of effusive praise (wow – he really does a nice job on his paperwork, as long as you don’t include skipping the pleas and analysis of ALL the Senior JAG officers of each branch of the military; and he has great judicial tempermanent, as long as you don’t need to stand up to the political process and do the right thing and as long it won’t bother you to have Judges that advocate for and solicit breaking laws) for the Haynes nomination by Comey, Goldsmith, Philbin and Thompson – Goldsmith is back with his co-author Posner. This is the duo that explains, Hey, Lord o the Flies is a great basis for international law as long as you aren’t Piggy. Together, they explain why the Global War in Error justifies the US trolling the world, buying hostages like a reborn slaver nation, and dispensing with the concept of even aFantasia inspired spectacle (the United States as a nation of laws plodding like the dinosaurs towards extinction) Gonzles wants to call trials.
A “Better” Way on Detainees
Goldsmith’s solution – Just lock everyone up and throw away key.
I looked all through the article – no real word on where that “battlefield” in the war on terror exists. It seems so unlike a lawyer to be unconcerned with definitions. But then, I’m still growing accustomed to lawyers who dispense with facts and, well, LAW. For example, I never saw that discussion of whether or not it is a lie to claim an lawful ongoing war, when all military objectives were achieved by the time the Mission Accomplished sign was hoisted. Or an acknowledgement of our status as occupying forces since Afghanistan and Iraq have instituted governments. When the State enemy is “of Mind” how does locking up the soldiers – anywhere – really take them off the battlefield?
Excuse me while I wander the highways and byways, in search of just what legitimate war we are discussing – particularly in light of not only our “mission accomplished” banners and the installing of governments in Iraq and Afghanistan, but also in light of the failure o our Congress to ever designate the commencement date of the Actual, as opposed to Euphemistic, “war” on the mental state known as”terror,” aka neoconsciousness.
How many blinks per letter does that statement get? A war on “terror” but Goldsmith and Posner think it is too soon to predict that it won’t be over —- soon.
Of course, if it was a war on Afghanistan, or Iraq, then now that there are new regimes and we are occupiers or government enablers (instead of “at war”) it gets more like Fantasia meets Kafka in a Brave New World.
But not to worry. It is just plain UNWARRANTED to think that terror might not be over and done with soon. Probably the same day the blastocytes in Sen. Frist’s pictures stop crying. So soon. Really soon.
If not, though, don’t worry. They are of the Arlen Specter view that then you get Congress to “urge the president to endeavor to transfer detainees to their home countries when feasible, and with appropriate human rights guarantees” while, of course and most importantly, acknowledging that the President is only to be urged and offered sex and extra ESPN channels, not ever, ever, ever, actually TOLD to follow the law.
Exactly. Because that “dangerous” person you grabbed from the “battlefield” (bc Goldsmith seems so up on his research of how many at GITMO were actually involved in anything resembling a battlefield capture) will be all undangerous after those “hostilities” with al-Qaeda and its “affiliates” (for whom there is no actual definitive list – athough based on Pentagon surveillance apparently the al-Quakers are a little known spinoff) are over. It’s not like years of isolation and torture might render them, oh, I dunno, a “violent mental patient” that you then might decide is subject to further incarceration.
The things that pass for knowledge I can’t understand
How it is that Goldsmith signs off on praises for his old boss, Haynes, who he helped with the Pentagon Policies — that is pretty easy to understand.
GWB si a pretty good-looking guy. I hate to admit it but he is. The NG pic of him is downright handsome. he had the legacy of his family and all the dirtbag connection money and influence can buy. What else did he need? That ‘C’ average at Yale didn’t hurt either. Regular guy. american dream…you too can be like this…the delusional American Dream bullshit. We love a happy ending.
ccmask “I think that all women need to walk out of work and they need to cut them off from sexual favors until the boys put down their weapons”
That idea was taken, 2500 years ago…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lysistrata
ccmask @ 237
Thank you for the encouragement – I’m just weighing whether the money is worth the hassle, and whether I would really be doing it more for my ego than anything else (probably). Perhaps more to the point, I don’t want any temptation to go whoring it around the blogosphere, and I don’t get enough traffic that I would sell anything otherwise.
How sad is it that I don’t even remember what bird shot you’re referring to…
Eli @ 193
I think you’re on to something there.
Well Steve. I have a card-onay chilled. Sterling Vintner’s Reserve. And then There’s always the Grey Goose fithy dirty martini. …What ever wets your whistle my boy. I’m having a Heineken Lite.
Our house “The Poodle Palace” (way before Jane and Kobi) is the best frat house party you will ever attend.
Hey, Lord o the Flies is a great basis for international law as long as you aren’t Piggy.
Sucks to your Geneva Conventions.
1969 was a great year for music and concerts, Steve. I think (?) that was the year I saw Jimi at Oakland Coloseum. Chicago opened for him (as CTA).
Niters Teddy
Evil Parallel Universe @ 229
SPLAT!
Mary where in God’s heaven did you get all that energy? Nice Post.
HSAT 245:
Re: Jimi, ‘68, Swing Auditorium San Bernardino.
‘69, Newport Pop Festival II, Devonshire Downs Race Track, Northridge, CA.
Oops, I meant Suzanne 245.
See, HSAT, I hvan’t been drinking enough!
Hope – You too have the right to disagree. But as easy as it is, and as much fun as it is, and perhaps as infuriating and depressing as it is, to believe that Chimpy was elected b/c somehow Karl Rove made him cool, argues that the American public is damn stupid and uninterested in who is their president. The public was sold a bill of goods, but it wasn’t that Chimpy was cool.
amberglow @ 210
Thanks for that fine linky afterglow!
Yes, a lot of sad truth there, but I also saw that essential and gratifying underlying truth Matt highlighted;
“I noted that his conception of “narrow dogmatists” included the readers of Daily Kos, a website with something like 440,000 visitors a day; I also noted that recent Gallup polls showed that fully 91 percent of Democrats supported a withdrawal of some kind from Iraq. So these hundreds of thousands of Democrats who are against the war are narrow dogmatists…?”
It gives my soul strength to know that we are not a figment of our own imagination and that a day of reckoning is coming. The Repugs better hide!
twas Suzanne Doll… I was 5
HSAT: You’re just a kid!
EPU 187 — I must be very tired and unusually dense, but I don’t understand this (or at least I don’t understand it as a response to anything I said):
We seem to be talking at cross puposes. You criticized Krugman for thinking that party affiliation only became crucial after 1994 and said — or so I thought — that it had been crucial since Washington. I responded that Krugman was wrong on his dates, but that before Reagan, it was possible, for me at least, to vote for a Republican. I’m not sure what that has to do with the cult of personality. I agreed with Javits and McCloskey on the issues. If Javits had an ounce of charisma, I never observed it, and I used to tease Pete that he was in the wrong party because we never found an issue on which we disagreed.
Krugman’s piece didn’t have anything to do with the cult of personality either. It simply said that “issue” advocacy groups were making a mistake when they endorsed Republicans, even if in any given case the Republican was good on their issue, because that Republican would vote for party leadership that didn’t agree at all. That seems to me to be quite correct, which is why, if Bob Casey were running against Lincoln Chafee, I would hold my nose and vote for Casey. Thirty years ago, in that matchup, I would have voted for Chafee — on the issues. But then, thirty years ago, the Democrats controlled Congress.
While I do not disagree about the ‘bill of goods’ and the rovian tactics, I have to tell you the American public is pretty dumb and not all that interested until it about them. We are a diverse country with lots of different kinds of people but our culture is geared to dumb people down and I believe it has triumphed beautifully.
Eli @ 198
I work from the premise that if Enron isn’t allowed to pummel the state, there’s no recall.
Arnie’s advantage was organization – when the mere suggestion that he might seek to replace Davis was floated, it was as laughable as you might think. The idea dropped off the radar for a while, and resurfaced when Darrell Issa got the recall move some run.
The race had no real adult and California has to admit to a more than a little impatience to have the whole thing over. The challengers in that race were the most pathetic bunch possible. Davis, Bustamonte, Huffington, Schwarzenegger, etc. They all looked like fools and not just as contrasts to each other. With the exception of Schwarzenegger, their campaigns were terribly run, personal flaws ruled the race, Arnold abused Arianna on live teevee more than once – a fucking mess. But Arnold had a team that dealt with the personal issues as a near Rovian exercise – utter dismissal beyond his ‘apology’ for bad behavior; tax cuts, $$$ for schools, etc.
And Davis was the singular perfect example of a “Pay-for-Play” politician. While running for his second term, he spoke at a state college… and charged admission! We were sick to death of the putz, even though he had just been reelected.
BB..two different conversations taken out of context.
Eli: I might have your pic confused with someone else’s…it was a beautiful yellow bird on a branch taken in your yard. If not, then I am confusing it with another person’s.
ok – the blastocyte pictures I think were Brownback, not Frist, but at least the post went through.
Way too aggravating though – Im having to go through linking thorough other work computers and the lag time on the typing is horriby slow. Which makes you want to fix typos when they finally show up, but as you backspace you can never really tell where the cursor is unless you are very patient, so you just make more slooow typos
newton
davis was scapegoated though no doubt. and calif. has really diverse communities, interest, socio-econ levels, etc. I would argue more than any other state. Thais has an effect on who runs, how they run, and who shows up. Arnie had alot going for him, married to a Kennedy didn’t hurt.
I work from the premise that if Enron isn’t allowed to pummel the state, there’s no recall.
Agreed, but all that would mean is that Arnie would have to wait for a regular election to run for governator.
Eli: I might have your pic confused with someone else’s…it was a beautiful yellow bird on a branch taken in your yard. If not, then I am confusing it with another person’s.
Definitely not mine.
I do have majestic pelicans and pigeons on the wing, tho…
Arnie had alot going for him, married to a Kennedy didn’t hurt.
I think he would have had a much harder time in a normal election, where voters would have time to see his ignorance exposed, and to get over the novelty and Ooo factor of having a real-life action hero for their governor.
The “Governator” encapsulates my point exactly.
Media used it negatively, positively, but the always used it. Capitalizing on his fame, it got him elected. Poor Davis, he looked (looks)like a wimp then the Texans crushed him. We needed a superhero to step in and fix it. Sheesh. Tell me again how Americans aren’t dumb asses?
Eli 263:
I think he would have had a much harder time in a normal election, where voters would have time to see his ignorance exposed, and to get over the novelty and Ooo factor of having a real-life action hero for their governor.
The voters here in CA were pretty tired of Davis’ lo-temp Dem action, with his pandering to the prison guard unions. Sadly, he was pretty low hanging fruit. And Arnie’s star power really made the day.
With the money the Repubs spent in that special election, with Davis so weak, The R’s could have run Ben Stein and probably been successful, and he’s a bastard, just smarter than Arnie.
Thanksfully they didn’t because now that I think about it, Stein is a real Nixonian idealogue, who would be much scarier than Arnie.
OK, I’ll shut up now.
sorry, just took a bread pudding out of the oven. Us old folks have some great concerts in our memory banks.
The voters here in CA were pretty tired of Davis’ lo-temp Dem action, with his pandering to the prison guard unions. Sadly, he was pretty low hanging fruit.
I had no love for Davis, he was the epitome of the money-driven, perpetually on-the-make politician that I despise. But I don’t think he did anything so improper as to warrant a recall.
BarbaraB – I was was using your example as an alternative to Krugman’s thought as to what changed in the 90s, cause something did, not that you were arguing personality vs. party. If I misinterpreted what you wrote, it is not b/c I am dense, but b/c, as a universe, I am mostly very empty space.
Just popped in with a nightcap and as I pop out with a hello to my late night pupsters I must add.
Oh my God, Mary is back wielding her sledgehammer for a little F****** Justice and Decency from our world!
Goddess bless you Mary. I could cry.
See you all on the flip, Unless this Kineticut energy cuts my sleep short.
Consider it a pet peeve, but will you please spell out the fucking epithets. If everyone knows what word is meant when spelled with stars or symbols, what’s the point?
Thanks for the link Kristinejoy.
Eli…I love my state but i harbor no illusions about its inhabitants or the at-large American public. Starting in the Reagan era in calif., the Prop. 13 thing (Briggs), the mental hospitals fiasco, the purposeful underfunding of the schools, on and on, our state started to ‘dumb down’. Allen Blooms hideous book was a reflection of what was happening. Calif. is a trend-setting state. The rest of the country followed like lemmings. And until americans feel the ‘pinch’ in their own lives, nothing will change. Hopefully we are at some kind of critical mass now that will motivate people to vote the fuckers out.
Eli 267:
I had no love for Davis, he was the epitome of the money-driven, perpetually on-the-make politician that I despise. But I don’t think he did anything so improper as to warrant a recall.
True! It was really analogous to the CA Supreme Court Rose Bird election. The money went to convince the fundies that she was (and she truly was) anti-death penalty.
But the money all came from insurance companies, who didn’t give a rats ass about the gas chamber, but hated her because she often found against them, in ways that cost them precioussss profits.
Hypocrisy is a powerful tool.
Oops, looks like I got moderated…
Consider it a pet peeve, but will you please spell out the fucking epithets. If everyone knows what word is meant when spelled with stars or symbols, what’s the point?
It’s for the filters, not for us. No-one’s sure exactly what words or combos might get a comment stuck in moderation, so they disguise some of ‘em.
At least, that’s what I think they’re doing.
Eli @ 267
here here eli
Niters eureka…sweet dreams
The pigeon is nice. I don’t think there are two alike in color in New York. They are all so different.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 272
Even the pinch in their own lives isn’t nearly enough so long as the Republicans can blame it on Democrats or Islamist boogeymen or gays or Mexicans.
I can’t help myself…it is friday
.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P57RmHg5DWs
The pigeon is nice.
He was actually a very intimidating Republican bull pigeon. I have some pictures of him intimidating other pigeons, but they’re not so hot photographically.
shit. fuck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P57RmHg5DWs
Mary at 12:36 am – Thanks for going through all that hassle to get your 12:19 am posted. It’s very much appreciated.
I can’t help myself…it is friday
Goodness gracious!
Mary at 238:
Kudos for another fine snarkalicious post!
And at that very same time, it was as much as an authoritative “truth to power” statement that I’ve seen in a while!
Methinks you are ready for a primetime thread of your own here here at FDL. Or perhaps a guest poster over at Glenn Greenwald’s blog.
Look out TRex, Mary is after your job! *g*
Eli…you’re killin my buzz man.
Eli
I agree that the compressed timing worked to his advantage. But without a catastrophe like CA being billions and billions in the red, there’s no challenge. I credit (is that the right word?) the GOP echo chamber with spinning the tale of Davis malfeasance being proxomate to the state’s troubles.
And without an organization, he’d never have gotten past that “women” problem, only made worse by his abusive treatment of Arianna. And, like Chimpy, being without-a-clue isn’t a bar to elected office.
Hope
Kennedy definitely helped. Remember the jokes about Teddy coming west to stump for his ‘nephew”?
HSAT – I think Americans can be very smart, but they they really become lazy about government and also about crtical thinking. They
havehad become extremely reliant on the news to really tell them what they needed to know. The media buying into the Bush cult paved the way. Then when Bush really had some power, the media was more thoroughly co-opted, and completely done by 9/11.On a brighter and sadder note, larger and larger groups just don’t believe in the media anymore.
No instituion, other than for the criminally insane, has surived this administration unscathed. IMO
(the energy was a combo of anger and interest to see my plan to get around my laptop comments being blocked would work.
Advil and sleep time now.
HSAT 282:
Holy crap!
Meanwhile, my pithy response to Eli languishes in moderation…
Steveaudio: Arnie’s star power did make the day. I look at it this way: Cartoons are nothing but infomercials. I guess his movies were infomercials for his campaign. Can a sitting president be recalled?
Did you like it Eli?
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 281
that was funny!
Eli…you’re killin my buzz man.
Sorry, Hope. It’s just that perceptions of reality are far more important than actual reality. This is why I’m so bothered and frustrated by the sorry state of the media.
. . . and your little dog, too @ 241
Just a little reminder that Bush wasn’t elected in 2000. Gore/Lieberman (ptooh, ptooh, ptooh) won the popular vote and if a fair recount had been done in Florida would have won the Electoral College. You may ascribe Bush’s ability to steal the 2000 election to a combination of platform, image, and yes, a cult following who believed then and believe now that he was chosen by God. And of course to the SCOTUS, 5-4. But he did not “win” the election.
Lovely job, Mary, as usual. I don’t know what bug Eric Posner has up his ass, but he needs to stop it real soon. If he isn’t careful, he’ll turn into Alan Dershowitz. I like Eric, and I’d hate to have to stop speaking to him.
Eli…you’re killin my buzz man.
Heck yeah!
Golly!
Thanks HopeSAT :)
Mary if you see this. I am sure you have tried many things and I don’t know a lot about computers. So with a grain of salt I have to mention the frequent problem, Browser. Have you cached out? Have you tried downloading a different browser and begin anew? Mozilla Firefox was fast and easy. Just a thought fwiw.
hopefully g’nite
Then we are left with critical thinking, which is no longer taught in schools. I can do the math. One of the reasons this site is so fabulous and people come back and back is because we find something here we don’t find ‘out there’. it doesn’t help that I’m in texas. )No offense to you littel dog).
But without a catastrophe like CA being billions and billions in the red, there’s no challenge. I credit (is that the right word?) the GOP echo chamber with spinning the tale of Davis malfeasance being proxomate to the state’s troubles.
Wasn’t Wilson the one who actually deregulated the power industry in CA, not Davis? Or do I have that wrong?
It’s hard to tell if Republicans plant stink bombs for their successors on purpose, since they seem to be planting stink bombs all the time.
Steve can I get you another cup cup of pithy?
Mary
What a treasure. Thanks.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 296
MSM = Pravda
Blogs = Samizdat
Steve can I get you another cup cup of pithy?
Are we having a pithy party?
wilson was the culprit…I wish I could sic dubya on that varmint…
Goshdarn it, I still have that freakin’ song stuck in my head.
f*ck the sh*t f8ck the f*ckin sh* fuck…
This might be a good time to call it a night…
I’m still laughing Eli
HSAT, that song is perfect for when having one of those days. Gotta watch out for the ear worm, though.
Night then. thank you for you words of wisdom and ever stellar comments Eli. (And the pics)
That video always makes me laugh. And I often need to lighten up and have a chuckle. Thanks for checkin it suzanne.
ok…me too…I’m outtie. Steve A, suzanne, ld, Mary. Thank you all and to all a good night…
ok – really to sleep after this post (its ike having a new toy being able to post from home again.
For me – getting you to use the phrase “pet peeve.” I can throw out the Precious Moments collection.
Mad Dog(happens to be my Lab’s name too) – I think my laptop problems are proof enough peole don’t like me already. *g*
‘nite, HSAT, sleep well.
HSAT:
thanks, hon.
G’nite.
Eli
Rephrase – I don’t think Davis should have been recalled (schmuck that he was), and the billions I speak of are energy dollars thieved after deregulation. But the AG here alerted FERC pretty early, and FERC turned a blind eye to the gouging.
Pretty good piece in Salon from 2002.
http://dir.salon.com/story/new…..index.html
Talking about Davis in CA got me to pondering that both Davis in CA and Bush in TX were in someways a very similar/kinda/somewhat/a wee bit of 2 sides of the same coin.
Both were total non-entities that had no business being placed in charge of anything bigger than a lemonade stand on a dead-end street.
Both were “figurehead” governors in states where the “real” power lay with the legislature.
In Tx, where “John Wayne, Cowboy, Shoot-’em-up” swagger is the modus operandi, Bush gets puffed up, and puffs himself up to pretend he can take on any role. Why he could be Dogcatcher of Waco, or even President!
In CA, where laid-back is de rigueur, Davis makes sure that he never, ever offends anyone, doesn’t eat meat, or acknowledge any deeply held opinion.
Now I’m imagining Davis as a Pecos resident and Bush growing up in Sausalito…good gawd what am I thinking of. LOL!
Evil Parallel Universe @ 267
My dear EPU, you also contain enough matter and antimatter for us all. Your comment was addressed to me, so I didn’t realize you were talking about something different. As a mortal, I am hopelessly linear. Glad we cleared that up — and good heavens, look at the time! G’night, EPU, and sweet dreams to the other denizens of the lake.
Mad Dog
There are a few dif’s. Bush hid, and Davis went to Viet Nam. Bush had a string of failed business, while Davis was Moonbeam’s COS, ascended to state controller & Lt Gov before Gov.
But yeah – they both have “competency” issues, I’d say.
This link is to the Senate 06 trading page.
http://www.intrade.com/jsp/intrade/contractSearch/
wrt the intrade link, notice the Connecticut race and the numbers for The Indy Party…
ccmask @ 318
That’s interesting stuff. Love the independent numbers. Strong showing for Lamont, too.
To clarify. Love the numbers as in interesting, not that I love the fact of a strong independent campaign, if one materializes.
Though it is quite likely EPU time (and I’ll probably post this again later in the day), all good Firepups should take a look at the Repug’s playbook over at Raw Story:
Republican playbook for ‘homestretch’ campaigning
If we take the time to ponder this Rovian marching order, I think many of their stunts can be blunted if not turned against them.
The numbers seem to say that it will be strong. I predict Lieberman withdraws on Press the Meat on Sunday and announces his Indy run. Bush’s favorite donkey in elephants clothing has definitely been outed.
Morning all…..61 and foggy this morning. Feels like autumn already. Summer is so fleeting here!..now for coffee and some news…OS
Some mornings it’s better to watch the fog………..
He nuzzles erect a single ivory branch, “My love,” he breathes. “My forever, love.”
The grass, the twigs, and the lake fall away lost in the haze. A cold wind sweeps down on the hillside. He turns away stern and foreboding. A single drop falls to the ground. He has not wept, not tonight.
Yo Jackal, she crams a buttered roll into her mouth and continues…magdifoj klmsop..(lips smack) She has not yet wept this morning……..
Ke-rip old sow, the next quatrain was really pretty!
It’s an oh’Danny Boy thing.
Good Morning, FDL, I have fresh brewed Kona for everyone (Fresh from Hawaii, love my Uncle very much, yes I do)
Oh Beard, I’m ready for my second..(holds cup out)…I’d offer some fresh sticky buns but that’s might sound, well, you know. LOL
oooh, Sticky buns! I think I have some sweet dough in the freezer, I could thaw that out for later this morning…Good thinking OS. (pours a big mug of coffee for OS)
yah, that works as a plan, I’ve fresh cherries, sweet dough (mutant brioche dough) and almonds. Once the dough is workable, I’ll make up rolls.
Okay beardo. Let’s do the whole mutant brioche thingy. Me first: intermolecular bonds are half-wavelength. He-he.
Good morning, FDLers!
I guess it’s better to post this here, in EPU-land, so it doesn’t interfere with the daylight work-at-hand. One of the most beautiful poems of the 20th century. For Trex and Kobe! (Best read outloud when you are alone…)
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Of Hartford in a Purple Light
A long time you have been making the trip
From Havre to Hartford, Master Soleil,
Bringing the lights of Norway and all that.
A long time the ocean has come with you,
Shaking the water off, like a poodle,
That splatters incessant thousands of drops,
Each drop a petty tricolor. For this,
The aunts in Pasadena, remembering,
Abhor the plaster of the western horses,
Souvenirs of museums. But, Master, there are
Lights masculine and lights feminine.
What is this purple, this parasol,
This stage-light of the Opera?
It is like a region full of intonings.
It is Hartford seen in a purple light.
A moment ago, light masculine,
Working, with big hands, on the town,
Arranged its heroic attitudes.
But now as an amour of women
Purple sets purple round. Look, Master,
See the river, the railroad, the cathedral …
When male light fell on the naked back
Of the town, the river, the railroad were clear.
Now, every muscle slops away.
Hi! Whisk it, poodle, flick the spray
Of the ocean, ever-freshening,
On the irised hunks, the stone bouquet.
– Wallace Stevens
Medaka, Nice find on the poetry, that’s lovely!
Ah, Mutant Brioche, LeJackal, is all in the treatment, first process in in food processor, chops up all the BNA (Briochy Nucleic Acids) Then with the addition of Butter it goes into the mixer for an ungodly amount of time (similar to introducing other genetic material, in a lab)and then it’s frozen. (snowflake loaves?)After all that mistreatment, it turns out remarkably well.
beard5 @ 335
Thanks Beard! It’s an old favorite. Not too many things out there that reference poodles and Connecticut in the same breath!
Ah, Wallace Stevens…top of the evening to you too, Medaka……I’m in Houseguestland this weekend and only making short visits in the mornings before anyone else gets up…now I realize how much time I spend here at the lake……
Oh, beary I am quite contririe. Accelerated states are finitely half disappeary.
And when le jackal comes to feasting
All shall see the humans resting
Old Sow @ 338
Hi OS!
I hear ya! — this FDLaking is becoming realer than melting clocks, huh?
Wallace Stevens? One of 5 or 6 poets from the 20C who will be remembered, eh?
Medaka, I think, once I’ve finished the current crop of calligraphy projects, that poem shall be the next one.
Robert Frost shall certainly be in that number, Medaka.
Logically, being a Northern New Englander, he was my first introduction to poetry. Now I can add Wallace Stevens to the list (Southern Poet)
beard5 @ 342
Very cool, Beard. Writing things out makes them more real. The Japanese believe that words have souls, and thus power. Saying something aloud, or putting it into writing is always a serious action with possibly great consequences. Which is why silence is considered such a virtue …
Well ok, and not to be smarmy or unsmarmy, at the end of a long process, is the obvious onclusion that molecular structure is straightforward. Intermolecular bonds are half-orbitals of (generally) paired electrons. A wide range of other molecular structures are explained by accelerated orbitals. D’Oh.
Beard, you funny..Southern Poet. Frost..cranky old thing…brilliant with words…
Jack, is that supposed to be conclusion or occlusion……extra points for the correct answer
Well OS, occlusion. However, bonus points for nuclear structure, which is rather interesting. But does follow.
Here in Texas we say nuke-you-liar…
Houseguests up and at ‘em…catch y’all anon…..OS
Beard, Sow, the realest Southern poet of them all is FRANK STANFORD
“The pump bit Johnny and it wouldn’t let go …”
Very scary bayou stuff — just marvelous …
Golly, sorry OS. Any pup want the next line?
Morning all!
The nipper let us sllep in today — Whooo!
Anubis: Zzzzzzzz…
Hi Immanentize!(passes over a mug of coffee)
Oh, Frank Stanford, thank you Medaka, I’d forgotten about him as well. But the reference to Southern, …My family is originally from far northern Maine, way up there in logging country, the Canadian Border was the closest significant thing to them. So, I’m in southern New Hampshire, and have been called a Southerner, seriously, by some of my cousins up there. One of my cousins has made it as far south as Connecticut, and he complained about the heat. (these are something like second and third cousins, the kids of my father’s cousins and second cousins)
LeJackal, if you’re still there, I’d love to hear the next line, though, truly I doubt I’ll understand it.
It seems that Israeli public opinion is starting to shift.
Also, the Government of Israel is now looking at at least another month to clear the south of Lebanon.
beard5 @ 355
Oh, I totally got that, Beard (guess I was being facetious with my “Southern” recommendation). I can easily imagine the north-south disconnect when I think that here in Japan (about the size of California) just a bit more than 100 years ago, folks from the north needed translators to understand folks from the south….
Medaka — a coupla months ago I was poking around looking at the interesting intersection of Japan, Korea, China, Russia and USA. I didnt realize that Kyushu wasnt a real part of Japan until after the war — that the Ainu are sorta like our Eskimos. I also see why the Kurils are still so disputed…
*ilson46201 @ 359
*islon, you got that right — it’s like San Francisco, with bits of 12 different cultural tectonic plates sliding into each other. And Okinawa is another story entirely. In terms of surface design, at least, Japan has been conversing with India and Persia for a good 1200 years …
And everyday I rejoice that: monotheism never really made it here ….
need a refill, be right back
(feels like I am now working the night-to-day bridge-shift, Pupsters…)
I fully expect some interesting new forms of warfare to appear, especially in advance of the 2006 and 2008 elections, especially if Ned wins.
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Don’t be surprised if “old parking tickets” suddenly show up to haunt you…
One more reason why I love FDL… you guys quote X-Ray Spex.
no doubt late & EPU’d, but fits here:
Speaking of new-style political warfare, did anyone mention David Brooks’ latest WEIRD op-ed? Is THAT what he’s up to now?
E.g., He trumpets at length about how the uber rich EARNED their perks ‘n baubles w/ good old fashioned HARD WORK! -harumph- Here-Here! HUZZAH!
He goes on to describe, at arm’s length, this really icky new class of whiners & lazy-good-for-nothings growing like mold out there – disgusting subhumans who shun “real” jobs, instead choosing to slop around in their jammies & get rich playing wit da toobes instead of doing solid, honest work, & otherwise [keeping to their proper place in society]. Oh the HORROR!
I paraphrase him wildly & badly but …
Is he upset because his dream of harnessing the toobes is going badly? &/or is he cranky over the bundled estate tax/mini wage mess being stalled by idiot rampaging Dems? &/or???
Talk about slamming!?! My Goodness Gracious what a whine! He’s sounding more & more like a bizarre copy of Andy Rooney. At least Andy EARNED his reputation for -erm, well… [always did marvel at Andy’s “tenure” protection]. But Dave, lad! We hardly knew ye!?!
Would one of you slovenly wizards PLEASE call David Brooks before he has a coronary, or gives me one, and tell him how to find the “ON” switch, so he can play too?
Israeli public opinion changing..starting to question their govenment & military leadership decisions? Sigh. If only that had happened that quickly here in 2003. I guess the reality dawning process really speeds up when bombs land in your back yard.
While we have been busy with Ned, there is someone that needs our help. Rep McKinney is facing a contest with a psuedo democrat financed by PAC money.
I just heard an interview on Democracy Now! and she really looks like one of the people we want in Congress. Her campaign does not have the funds to compete with the PAC money, so perhaps we can make up some of the difference in small donations.
http://www.democracynow.org/ar…..04/1419200
God bless the Sex Pistols and all that but it’s an oft-repeated myth that punk immediately destroyed certain sections of the 70s music world. Punk changed the climate, certainly, but Yes, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin and co were massive bands that remained largely unaffected by the turmoil occurring in central London and NYC circa 1976. Yes’s 1977 album Going for the One was a big success (no. 1 album and a top ten single), so too was the Floyd’s Animals (it went platinum) the same year. Both bands went on to play sell-out tours around the world while punk bands were filling out a few small clubs.
The Pistols split in January 1978. Yes were filling Wembley Arena in October the same year. Pink Floyd had their first UK no. 1 single in December 1979 with Another Brick in the Wall pt. 2. Nice to see a music analogy in a political discussion but this one doesn’t quite stand up to scrutiny.
I’ve always thought that was the solution for Israel/Palestine–moms all getting together and saying “No. Our kids will not fight or die on either side. No more. No more soldiers. No more bombers.”
I don’t think any of our leaders actually sleep with their wives anymore–nor do i ever want to picture it.