No wonder Holy Joe is desperate, cornered, flailing and trying to change the topic to Anything But Iraq. He’s getting hammered:
Ned Lamont (D) leads Sen. Joe Lieberman (D-CT) 54% to 41% among likely Democratic primary voters, according to a new Quinnipiac poll.
This compares to a 51% to 47% Lamont lead in the last poll two weeks ago.
Key findings:
- In this latest survey, 5 percent of likely Democratic primary voters remain undecided, but 85 percent of voters say their mind is made up.
- Among Lamont supporters, 65 percent say their vote is mainly against Lieberman.
- Lieberman’s support for the war in Iraq is the main reason they are voting for the challenger, 44 percent of Lamont voters say, with 50 percent who say the war is one of the reasons.
Said pollster Douglas Schwartz: "Sen. Lieberman’s campaign bus seems to be stuck in reverse. Despite visits from former President Bill Clinton and other big name Democrats, Lieberman has not been able to stem the tide to Lamont."
Polling for this race is an exceptionally difficult thing to do, given that an August primary of this intensity has little precedent among other things. These numbers could be awfully optimistic so it isn’t time to let the effort down and think the battle is won. They need volunteers really badly to come to Connecticut this weekend to work on the campaign.
As Markos predicted last night:
But let’s not pat ourselves in the back if this Q-Poll comes out looking like a blowout, because it’s not. The only prediction anyone can make at this point is that regardless what the polls say, the candidate who doesn’t get his people to the polls will be the candidate who loses.
You can find a sign-up information for both in-state and out-of-state volunteers here — it’s time to keep the pressure on. There are tons of FDLers heading in to Connecticut this weekend so please think about coming and lending a hand.
And did I mention everyone is having lots of fun? S’true.
Update: In an email from someone who analyzed the poll:
2% of Lieberman’s supporters cite Bill Clinton’s endorsement as their main reason for supporting him.
What an exercise in futility that was. Bubba’s reflected glory appears to be quite insignificant.
Update II: The poll is online now.
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Good Grief FITZ NED JANE
That looks good, but let’s not take too much comfort there. Word is that both candidate’s internal poll numbers flip–they show each respective candidate with a narrow lead over their opponent, and those polls are likely to have better intel/models for turn out. Best to approach this race as if it’s tied and every last vote will count, becuase that’s probably the way it is. And Leibermen has the entire GOP machine working for him now, one that has proven effective at last minute execution.
Darksyde — sobering analysis — thanks. It is important to keep all eyes on the prize.
Jane, where was that great photo snapped??
Simply brilliant, like a traffic jam for the truth …
Keep up the GREAT work — you guys are the folks who will take back our country !!
Damn, how do you guys get this stuff so early? I had the next q-poll release auto-reloading waiting for it to appear :)
Oh, and:
JANE!! I am so proud of you in so many ways. And I don’t even know you :~)
Ah ! Great news guys ! This makes my day for sure! Way to go Ned !
Sorry for the off topic, but being on different time zone does not help so I would like to catch up with the last treads..
I want to give my huge kudos to Jane: egardless of what one may think of the photo polemic Jane showed great character and moral fiber standing her ground and owning up to the responsibility of the post that appeared with her name on it. It would be much easier to blame the matter to someone else or to dismiss the whole thing : but again Jane showed that she has more integrity, honesty and courage in her
left finger nail that the whole Malkin and wing nuts mob in their whole useless bodies. That kind of people has not even the foggiest idea of what ethical behaviour is and would not recognize intellectual honesty if it come over them and bite them in the **s!!
That someone as vile and low life as Malkin is given any kind of attention is something that has always baffled me: this person goes on air spitting bile and hate, racism and unacceptable and unsustainable smear against people she would not be fitted to open the door for and she is considered some kind of acceptable opinion maker!!?!!. I have always wondered how someone like her could even be seen on a
mainstream TV network in the USA (together with people like Limbaugh, O’Reilly, Coulter (the worse of all them) and countless others). Italian TV is pretty lame and hollow as intelligent content goes (reality show and that kind of s*it draw huge audience also here I am afraid) but the public would never tolerate such a figure (not even in the channels owned by our ex (ex … yyyeeesss!! about time!) right wing prime minister Berlusconi). How can anyone with a conscience and any kind of knowledge of the world or culture listen to her and not change the channel shaking his/her head is beyond my comprehension.
The sorry state of the media in the USA is something that leaves anyone of my generation here in the UE completely speechless: we grew up with the echoes of the great work done by the USA press to keep the government from out stepping the limitation of its power (Watergate is a very good example but not the only one) and we constantly whipped our own press to live up to the examples coming from what (for us at least) was the country of the free media. None here would have imagined that newspapers in the USA, printed (of all places!) in its capital like the WaPo for example, would become such shill for the government that Pravda’s under Brezhnev would seem to be a liberal paper! During a working trip in the states this spring (to Atlanta) I had the occasion to watch some TV in the hotel, specifically CNN and I had to check twice to be sure that I was really tuned on that channel: the international CNN, the one
I can see in the EU is so different as tone, content and opinions that is seem to be a completely different network. Whatever disease has struck FOX (unbearable!) is spreading I am afraid.
Please don get me wrong and I am not glorifying the EU situation and simply dissing the USA one: I have a very low opinion of what passes as information here in Italy and I am always struggling to get new content and fresh opinions (that’s how I ended up in KOS and then here in FDL… thank god for Internet!!). It is again a huge dissillusion to see what used to be your model (because that is what the USA were for the good and for the bad for all the countries of western Europe.. possibly the
subject of an other rant…) failing to live up to your expectations.
Ok lunch break over again. See (read?) you later
Yeah Jane, I was surprised yesterday, but you showed class in taking ownership for that whole thing.
Just imagine – if you were drawing a paycheck from anyone to the right of Ben Nelson, you probably would have come into work this morning and received a fat raise for getting the illustration into the media coverage.
It sucks to be caught in the middle of practicing a more aggressive politics and the decency that defines progressives — we’re still testing the waters, in the field unfortunately and by necessity. But we’ll figure it out.
Thread!
Hi Imm….it was so hot here last night that I was up late….
Not to diminish the poll results, which are encouraging, and I also appreciate Darksyde’s analysis (reality check) but OS is also……..and often OT (especially when catching up with the night’s news…….
Another view with some salient comments……….Refugees’ Fury will Be Held for Generations…..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,,1835247,00.html
Concern Mounts That This Is a War That Israel May not Win……..
fairuse.100webcustomers.com/fuj/smh8.htm
Hi Medaka, how’s the evening?
Oh, Twolf, you’re here too…top of the morning. Where’s Lotus?
Schvitz!
Thanks OS, did you all know that Pach cross-posted his Israel piece over at huffpo. Many favorable comments as well….
as they say in Mortal Kombat, “FINISH HIM!!!”
We still have a ton of work to do. Let’s close the deal and send Ned away with the victory. He still needs our help!
Come to Connecticut and volunteer.
Today’s the last day you can use Family, Friends, and Neighbors – keep sending post cards.
Don’t waste time being excited about this poll – organize!!!!
OS – I’m barely here, kinda sleepy ;) No see lotus yet, maybe the flower is getting some sleep.
Mornin all!
This should make Tom from Chicago happy. Apparently 1/3 of American people think there was some sort of “conspiracy” wrt 9/11.
OS thinks………maybe……In any case, after the Vanity Fair tapes, one thing is for sure: Air Traffic control in DC was not in communication with the Air Force…..
http://www.knoxnews.com/kns/national/…..48,00.html
Twisted Martini @ 14
This is a really important point, (although maybe without the Mortal Combat bit :~) There could be a secondary benefit to a VERY BIG Ned win which is to scare Joe off the Independent run. If it is a squeaker next Tuesday, then Joe can claim the rabid lambs were dirty tricksters out did him to defy the will of the regular folks of blah blah blah.
But if he loses big, he is just a loser.
Attack! (some more)
Great news.
Tommy Yum — great to see you around! I was askin’ after you yesterday. I hope you are well?
Matt 8 — I did think about that after the fact, but I assure you, no more moolah for poodle food this morning. Just an extra helping of wingnut trolls.
Be nice to Christy today, she bore the brunt of them yesterday when I was out chasing Holy Joe’s Bus to Nowhere tour.
Jane – Lorenzo’s latest adventure on the recommended list at Myleftnutmeg.com. And the ending actually happened.
Jane,
Keep your head up!
and Christy, it stinks you had to take the brunt of it, but you handled yourself well.
No Worries!
Hopefully Ned supporters will turn out in droves. Is the kiss float going to be used to take people to the voting booths? Maybe attach a trailer and transport hay ride style.
Keep your eyes on the skies today if you are in the northeast. Strong t’storms are forecast to form between the 100 air and the mid 80s air that will be moving through the area later today/tonight.
More (email from someone who analyzed the poll document):
No look good for Joe.
twolf1 @ 26
thank god! we need some relief in NYC>
Jane — good to see you up and about this early — your body has finally converted from LA time to CT hours …
btw, this great new poll data steps on yesterday’s “crazy bloggers” story …
Jambro – the heat is awful! I’m in eastern PA – the a/c barely kept up yesterday.
Yoohoo from da flowah, with special attention to Kimba and Medaka, our farthest-flung!
I’ve just been catching up to yez. Wow, earthquake play-by-play last night — wot NEXT for FDL? I got a story re “tectonic deflowering,” but it’ll keep . . .
As to the other quake … well, bummer that the Globe reprinted Balz’s hit-piece — was hoping that NYT’s would suffice for CT. Howsomever, somewhere between the Q-poll, Rumsfeld’s testimony, and whatever new hell is breaking loose on far shores as I type, this blackface story may sink faster than usual. Maybe Timmeh won’t have time for it on Sunday, but I’m sure Ned will be ready if he does.
TEA!
Jane, also, the trend lines are fabulous for Ned. Tightening might be expected, but with trend lines like this, I don’t expect to see reversals for Lamont’s numbers in the next few days.
All fingers and toes crossed
mornin Lotus. How goes it?
Twolf. I know i know. I can’t wait for September weather!
Lotus — all sweet?
Lamont’s biggest shift is taking the lead among women – he was down a couple points 2 weeks ago, now is up by 10. I was very surprised to see Joe leading last time with F voters – those who might change their minds (the 12% of Lamont supporters) are probably almost all women.
Lamonts favorables are up 10% since last time — unfavorables only 1. Joes hits aren’t sticking.
The under 30K group will be interesting to watch – Joe’s lead is probably due to his harping on Lamont’s personal wealth (funny, Joe was never so big on “class warfare” when he got defended stock options), but this week has seen a lot of fighting for working class votes. Let’s see how it goes.
No crosstabs for black voters or diner eaters – the leading edge of the campaign trends this week :)
Not to mention that Ned got the endorsement of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette.
Meaningless but fun!
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Morning, twolf! It’ll go a dang-sight better when I get some tea in me. Hope you’re much more comfortable today, kiddo.
Imm, how ya feeling this morning?
*ilson @ 30:
There will always be “crazy blooger” stories.
Such is our fate…
.
I was just informed that it is now Thursday. Where did the rest of the week go?
Matt — Thanks, I am still scratching my head about the women’s vote thing (like Jane). Lamont seems just right on many family/women friendly issues — it just might be a question of getting to know the fellow.
Lotus — I am 90% which means I am off to work!
PS Lotus, ugotmale
Jane,
Great work, but pls lie low for the next few days. Victory is almost at hand. Leiberman’s desperate folks are making you an issue. Wapo’s Dan Balz has an article today about you and the pic. Someone at Atrios said CSPAN read that report on air this morning on Wash Journal program.
They have nothing else to run on. They will try to distract from the poll today also, making you an issue and trumping up that wapo article.
…just looking at the picture of the kiss float and the exposed rear-end of Joey’s bus. What does it say on the side of the bus? JOE’S TOMato shield??
Oh boy! we’ve got some big MO to keep up.
Let’s keep our eyes on the prize for the next 6 days and not get distracted. We want Ned to win this big.
As several people have stated over the last couple of weeks, they will probably start flinging some serious sh*t at Ned this weekend. We need to stay on message and stay positive.
Anyone who wants to come join us in CT, now is the time to make up your minds and make travel plans.
It’s gonna be fun!
Jane, I hope you’re holding up OK what with the heat and the …heat. Thanks again for all you do.
About the Clinton endorsement — I’m in California, and the Big Dog showed up for Gray Davis during the recall. Didn’t work. Rule of thumb: when the candidate MIGHT win, Clinton does some good. When the candidate’s headed south, nothing can help.
I agree with ecoast, Jane would be wise to stay out of events with media coverage. Please put victory for Ned above personal affront.
Jane @ 23 – I give 50/50 odds that the Lieberman campaign would be cynical and desperate enough to hire you tomorrow if you asked.
I think Joe just wants anyone who will be seen in public with him. For christs sake, Spazeboy has probably been 20% of the attendees at his events this month, and Joe’s getting notably more sentimental towards his “happy interrogator.” I say we chip in and get Joe a puppy when the race is over to show him there are no hard feelings.
I love the poll results…even if they can’t be taken too seriously. They help build momentum.
With Joe using Republican mercenaries it would appear that the Lieberman campaign is alreay looking to their post-August 8 strategy.
Okay, imm, may you regain that last 10% before noon!
But I’m with Jane’s emailer — more surprised about the Nutmegger men’s response than the women’s. I wonder what that generally-redder demographic is seeing in Ned-vs-Joe that’s upended their usual calculus.
Does this mean we can write about Poland now, at long last?
Ed @ 51 – you know what would be hot? A new Rasmussen poll.
Old Sow @ 10
hi Old Sow — sorry for the delay — dinner called ….
hot and humid here, new aircon is in da house!
medaka, ya gotta fling us some Japanese recipes next Pull Up a Chair, you know?
no puppies for Lieberman — some of his entourage might want to fry it for breakfast — Joe hangs with some scuzzy folk !
Jane, I hope you can keep cool today.
You’re doing something really important, and I’m so proud of you. I wish I could be there.
Everyone take it easy in this heat…
I soaked a bandanna in water and wore it around my neck when i had to go out yesterday. Still too hot, so I just soaked my hair in cold water and had a ‘wet dog’ hairdo.;)
Pachacutec @ 53
No one EVER writes enough about Poland.
By the way, huge SNAPS! for your Huffpo reception (and of course, the piece was great!)
When your QB throws a pick, pitcher gives up a homer, goalie lets in a bad goal (pick your sport) you shake it off and regain the momentum. Plain and simple.
lotus @ 55
lotus, i’ll try and do that. hope you can all get some of the wacky ingredients at your local coop/healthfood stores…
Come on, it could be a lapdog, to remind him of the glory days as he fades into obscurity…
Heh, Margot! My first glance at I soaked a bandanna in water … , made me say, “A BANANA? Mushy BANANAS cool you???”
I’ll be okay soon … got this tea IV just about hooked up now.
I was worried about the trollerie hitting Pach’s post but only one arrived late (and was promptly deleted) … pretty decent comments thread all-in-all.
Pacha 53 –
Forget Poland – until next Thurs. All Joe all the time. So much fun. Wednesday we celebrate and Thurs, we can do Poland, Iraq, Lebanon, Rummy, Cheney, W, etc – and oh, Fitz.
Well, there’s always Penzeys, medaka . . .
Aside from the unreliability of the polling model, and the candidates’ rumored internal polling showing the race much tighter, there is another reason to get up to CT.
Let’s assume for the moment that the Q polling is accurate. IF the primary turns out essentially that way, the justification for Lieberman to then put in his papers for the Joe-for-Joe party will be the ‘low turnout’ meme. It would be great if he could lose AND have a turnout that is comparable or higher than other CT primaries. This, in turn, would put pressure on the DSCC to lean on Joe.
I will be going up to New London over the weekend to help. (and yeah, I’ll be spending my latenights at Mohegan Sun. Shut up. You spend your downtime your way and I’ll spend it mine)
dratty — Good for you.
And there’s another reason — we were speculating yesterday about the likelihood of Joe dropping out of the race if he gets beaten in the primary. All agreed it was much more likely if he got a drubbing.
lotus, LOL…I don’t know, they might, I haven’t tried that. Right now I’ll try about anything.
Between the Jean Nate’ in the fridge to splash on me and the soaked hair, etc., I’m managing in the heat. How we survived a couple of DC summers w/o AC, I do not know.
ecoast @ 65
I know, I just could not resist the joke. But I’ve got a big thing on the employment dynamics of Warsaw all fired up for after the primary.
DRUB THE DAYLIGHTS OUTTA HIM, then, Nutmeggers!
Jane – right
But there has to be the turnout numbers to keep him from that whole “CT hasn’t spoken” meme.
My worry, (and yeah, I get anal about things like this) is that this poll may convince voters that the race is won and send them off to the beach.
ctblogger pointed this out, but they didn’t poll the 3-way race this time. Weird. Seems relevant.
lotus @ 65
as long as you can get mirin, umeboshi, bonito flakes, all is well …. plus of course the de rigeur shiitake, kombu, daikon, etc ….
i take it that the little dried white fishies, however, are kinda hard to come by, yes? they are my new have-to-have ….
Margot, I wuz sittin’ here puzzling, “With or without the peel?” LOL
dratty – works both ways. If Joe’s a lost cause, why leave the air conditioning to bail out his warmongering ass? You get your thighs stuck to the carseat, and be honest, you probably never really liked the senator that much to begin with :)
Joe knows if he gets shellacked in the primary, raising money for his Joe4Joe Party will be quite difficult — nobody likes to give money to a loser who will have no vote in the Senate. Bigbucks folk give to likely winners to maintain access to the political power.
Beats hell outta me, medaka. I’ve never tried Japanese cooking (or ingredient-shopping) before, but heck, I’ll blunder in just about anywhere if no one stops me.
Hey, Sharkie and lhp never showed up yesterday, huh? I guess lhp’s court-bound, but no telling where Sharkie’s causing trouble. Jonesing for a Baby Mittens update, I am.
Medaka, you’re starting to make my mouth water. ANYTHING with daikon…umeboshi…yum…a Lamont victory feast!
You know, now you’ve made me think it might be a great idea to put a few bananas in the fridge and make yogurt banana smoothies later on.
Thanks, lotus!
*ilson 77 — Dunno. I have a suspicion some big buck folks will actually see Lieberman as the first line of defense against the progressives, a wall that cannot be breached. They may not want to be seen with him but they very well may tell him he has to stay in the race and start writing big checks, because they think they’re next.
I like “Joe4Joe” though.
Am still chuckling over Tom DeLay expressing a preference/support for Lieberman…as if the Bush kiss wasn’t enough…LOL
Hello, Joe? All this GOP support should have your hair standing on end. This doesn’t mean you’re Mr. Bi-Partisan, Swell Fella…it means you’re one of them, and that’s why they want you to win. They have nothing to fear from you.
These are not hallmarks of being considered a “good Democrat,” Joe, they are signs of being a “good little Democrat (head pats and dog biscuits included)” and we intend to send you and your ilk scampering back to the doghouse.
Re: the poll…51-47 to 54-41; Ned picks up three points, and Joe loses 6.
What a great start to the day!
Jane, do you know whether that “I returned WalMart’s donation a week later” DISproof that our folks found has made it to Swan by now?
Medaka at 74 — If I can find all those ingredients in the middle of WV at an international grocery, then everyone should be able to track them down. :) I’ll dig up my list of mail-order sources for Saturday…
Gawd, we eat good around here, Christy.
This poll makes me smile this morning. Even more incentive for everyone to get the vote out. Remember gang — Saturday is the last day to use the “Friends and Family” feature at Ned’s website. If you know anyone in CT, please get in touch and ask them to vote. (For Ned, of course. *g*)
*ilson46201 @ 77
*ilson, this reminded me to ask you — has anyone tried to pay you big bucks for the websites yet? Seems wierd if Joe is really committed to an indy run that he wouldn’t be spending some of his millions securing his net systems….
christy my recollection was the the ned campain was asking that friends and family cards be done by the end of today to get delivered prior to the primary next teusday
Good morning FDL, I’ve plenty of iced coffee up here. Jane, after yesterday’s weather, and today’s forecast bring much water with you whereever you go. I’m on my third glass of ice water and still barely human.
This is faboo news about the poll numbers, I’m looking forward to not hearing Lieberman anymore on CSPAN, he’s grown tiresome.
Lotus, wrt little dried white fishies, any Asian store should have them, many better stores, like Trader Joe’s may have them as well. the other ingrediants I can get at the local large grocery store (Mirin, bonito flakes, miso etc.)
Ahhhhhh…the coffee is done brewing. We’re watching PBS this morning and I’m trying to wake up. :) Oh, and I’m just smiling, thinking about the joyous ride that the Bus to Nowhere will be this morning…and that’s without taking into account the Kiss Float.
I bet Atilla the Hen is on overdrive this morning…
I’ve been reading FDL for about six months….
Pete at 90 — Hmmm…let me check on that for sure.
Beard5, my pro’lem is, the nearest Trader Joe’s is in some other state, and most of the internat’l-foodstuffs available here ’bouts are SW Asian. But I’ll reconnoiter harder . . .
Atilla the Hen? 707….Thank you Christy!
Yeh, A the Hen must be fluffin’ ‘n’ squawking for all she’s worth after some spin to counter that Q-poll. Po’ li’l birdbrain.
Christy, mornin’! Just wanted to say how great you were yesterday, how much you did under pressure and what good judgment you showed (acording to TRex’s opening graph!)
Have a cinnamon krueller on me!!
Lotus – in my local grocery store, the international foods aisle consists of pasta and and Ragu.
Lotus, if you have a Shaw’s, Shop & Save or even (gods help us) Market Basket, at least here in semi-rural NH, they all have a decent Japanese food section. Not fabulous, but decent. In NY state, I *know* the Wegman’s have great Japanese food sections, including fresh sushi
I’d figure their related chains must be equally well supplied.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 84
lotus, Christy, OS: yeah! some Lamont Victory recipes. Lemme see what I can come up with this weekend.
I know y’all can’t get raw-for-consumption fish, so I’ll stick with what I know: vegetables. Right now we have a huge glut of eggplants and peppers and cucumbers, plus my favorite: goya/bitter melon/bittergourd. I posted a bittergourd recipe a while back, but I think the veg itself needs some background, as it’s kind of wacky. Will work on that too.
Textile work is calling. I need to get good chunk of supplementary income this summer to give away. Mom is first, as always. And it’s high time I start helping out here at FDL (lordy knows you all help me!), so keep your fingers crossed for some thread profits so I can share the lurve. …
I am still awaiting an offer from Lieberman’s webfolk for my exceedingly valuable domains … yes, I can be bought!
So I think it’s time for a haircut. From last night:
Anyone have clippers?
Dang, my poor easily distractable brain just got sidetracked from politics to food (happens often)
Go Ned! Jane! Kobe! Etc.
Imm at 99 — thanks much — but the cinnamon kruller would not be on my diet, and I wouldn’t want to mess up my (now) 14 pound loss. :) Pardon me while I stick to coffee and my whole grain crispbread, low fat cream cheese mixed with some chives and dill, and smoked salmon thsi morning.
Also, for salted fishes, ethnic neighborhoods with Italian or Eastern Europen Markets have some excellent Japanese dried fish “substitutes.” Not exactly authentic, but excellent fusion.
Which reminds me of when I lived in Atlanta for a short while. I mentioned to a local friend of mine that “there just doesn’t seem to be much ethnic diversity or community stuff happening here.” I was thinking Chinatown and Little Italy and Greak Festivals, etc. And she replied, “What do you mean? We have Methodists?!”
according to CNN, the first seven months of 2006 have been the hottest weather ever. The oil-Senators (yes, you, Imhofe) will poo-poo this info …
Medaka — larger cities definately have raw-for-consumption fish — so don’t hold back on th esashimi/sushi ideas.
Christy at 105 — proving once again that you have superior powers of self control!
Oh, and Quinnipiac’s news for A the Bag won’t cheer that roost up much either . . .
Somebody last night said something like, “Well, [A. Bag]’s just let more staffers go, maybe they’ll go help Joe.”
Er, no. They let HER go — three different bunches of ‘em now, bing bing bing. And I surmise none of them wants another loser on his or her resume just now … could put ‘em into Shrum territory, doncha know.
*ilson46201 106 – AND is snowed in South Africa.
Hi imm,
Thanks for the kind thoughts. I am well, but RL intervened in a painful way, and knocked me out of my frame. I’d prefer not to go into greater detail, but want to make plain that no one here drove me away–I love this place.
I hope all here are well. Let’s put this Lieberman baby to bed. There’s a lot to take back, and this is the best way to start!
imm at 109 — well, if that were true, I wouldn’t be on this diet. *G*
tommy yum at 112 — great to see you this morning. :)
CHS, did my note come through last night?
tommy, darlin’, how we’ve missed you! Whatever this pain you speak of is, hope this helps:
(((((OUR YUM)))))
Pete at 90 was right, gang — If you have friends and family in CT and you want to use the contact tool — you have to do so by the end of TODAY (THURSDAY). Here’s a link to the blog on Ned’s site that takes you through the steps.
lotus 110
Maybe Joe can get K. Harris to come up to CT and stump for him.
immanentize @ 106
Gotcha, IMM. I should probably put together a little selection, and space things out over the month…
RevDeb, something tells me she’ll be in one of those tight white jackets that conduces self-hugging before long . . .
Old Sow @ 10
Old Sow, check yer mail….
Hang in there, Tommy. We will help if you want us to and if we can (but you know that).
lotus @ 121
I’d rather see her in an orange jumpsuit.
Christy, Quick catch! Thank you for all that you do. Re: The friends and family unfortunately my connections are mostly in northern New England, though my friends in Connecticut are already happily voting for Lamont (yes, they read about him here, you guys do good)
Well, as I live and breathe . . .
Struggling Harris loses four more campaign staff
Amid bad press, four more staff members have left Katherine Harris’ U.S. Senate campaign, for various reasons.
http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/15184810.htm
Twisted at 115 — YES! Thanks heaps — both Mr. ReddHedd and I are going to have some fun with that link. :)
That 2% Hillary’s husband gave needs to come off of his wife’s poll. 2% is an awful lot in a tight race.
lotus @ 123
Heh heh. I would LURVE to be a fly on the wall in some strategerizing meetings with Kath and the Twinz ….
I would LURVE to be a fly on the wall in some strategerizing meetings with Kath and the Twinz … .
Dunno, medaka, you any good with word salad?
It’s great to be back. Hi Christy, lotus! Such lovely people.
I’m on pins and needles waiting for the 8th. Wish I could come up there and pitch in, although it’s not like there’s very capable people handling things already. The college republican story is as repugnant as it is unsurprising.
It’s the hail mary pass, folks…
Lieberman rips W’s war plan
BY HELEN KENNEDY
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER
Embattled Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman – facing a possible primary defeat Tuesday because of his strong backing for the Iraq war – yesterday launched a Hail Mary attack on the Bush administration’s handling of the war.
“I supported our war in Iraq but I have always questioned the way it was being executed,” Lieberman said.
“This administration took far too many shortcuts. We continue to suffer the consequences, as do the Iraqi people.”
http://www.nydailynews.com/new…..0892c.html
I’m now looking for all those questions Joe had…
ccmask @ 132
Searching, searching, searching….
Way OT, but with all the pet lovers here, thought you all might enjoy a laugh this morning –
Made me smile!
Lieberman presses rival to denounce blackface photo
By Dan Balz, Washington Post | August 3, 2006
BRIDGEPORT, Conn. — The bitter Democratic Senate primary in Connecticut erupted in fresh controversy yesterday over a doctored photo of Senator Joseph Lieberman in blackface that was posted by a blogger who has been an influential promoter of rival candidate Ned Lamont.
Lieberman angrily demanded that Lamont denounce the action and sever all ties with Jane Hamsher, the founder of the Web log Firedoglake, who posted the photo on another blog, HuffingtonPost.com.
She travels along with the campaign with other bloggers. She is not on the campaign staff but has actively promoted Lamont’s candidacy and helped raise money for him through her blog.
read the rest here: http://www.boston.com/news/nat…..ace_photo/
While we will work our butts off till the polls close on TU, it helps to ride momentum — be a cool kid and ride the wave with us to bring change to DC. I do believe that Sharpton and Jackson will bump more than 2% that Clinton gave Joe.
The heat wave breaks today — so if those of us here fall silent and you don’t hear from CT, it may be beacause we have no power/broadband.
Forecast for TU — 84, partly cloudy with low humidity. Even the weather Gods are cooperating. This heat wave would have killed GOTV.
okay, I swear, last one…
Colbert’s offer fails to lure Lieberman onto TV show
By Alexandra Fenwick,Special Correspondent
Published August 3 2006
In Tuesday night’s broadcast of Comedy Central’s “Colbert Report,” host Stephen Colbert enticed U.S. Sen. Joseph Lieberman to visit his show with a package of the senator’s favorite things: a bowl of Cocoa Puffs, a CD of Andrea Bocelli, a copy of the movie “Mystic River” and a trip to south Florida.
“All of this could be yours if you’ve got enough Joe-mentum to get to my studio before the primary day next Tuesday,” Colbert said.
http://www.stamfordadvocate.co…..-headlines
Christy
Did you see the article at TPM about the Pennsylvania Green Party being 99% funded by Santorum Republican donors?
I thimk this will hurt Santorum more than help him.
I know, I know, its a tight race, but I am disappointed by this in ccmask’s Globe article:
I hope he doesn’t retain this lack of knowledge when he is sworn in ….
lotus @ 128
Well, lotus, I think, were I called on, I could toss a fancy one for Katherine in the always-lovely subjunctive mood, provided there were plenty of dressing to cover the Twinz, and dangling no participles on anyone’s, er, part — I mean in anyone’s bowl …
(sorry, just flexing my
glamourgrammar muskle — it’s been a while …)Boy, a blackout would really help keep
Joe Aglow right now
Any word from LHP?
I drove through a bunch of little towns in western CT yesterday enroute to phone banking with the Lamont campaign. Saw about 20 Ned Lamont yard signs, 2 Liebermans.
For what it’s worth….
I hate to piss on this, but I really don’t think this poll means much.
No one knows what their likely voter model is, and there is no way to predict likely voters in this unprecedented August primary.
Plus, Joe is hiring 4000 paid GOTV people who will all be taking an hour off to vote themselves. That’s buying 4000 votes, which could be the victory margin in this race right there.
Let’s not lose perspective, here. This poll means as much as the ones that had Ned 20+ behind. And in fact, the best way to approach this is to think the way you did back then.
From the Balz article:
Lieberman also asked that Lamont pull down his campaign website, close his campaign headquarters, return all donations to all donors, move to Siberia, and then self-immolate.
Lamont denied both set of request.
The world’s saddest solo on the world’s smallest violin continues to play just for Joe Lieberman.
Disgusted: this ones for you pal…you probably voted for Bush too. Your opinion means nothing to us.
==
The Observer: Why Joe Must Go
The Courant endorses Lieberman, but then they endorses Bush didn’t they…..
by Alistair Highet – August 3, 2006
Let me remind you what the Courant wrote about Bush on the eve of the last election: Mr. Bushs positive, decisive leadership qualities and the perilous times we live in are a good match. He is the candidate that can best protect the nation.
great stuff…
http://hartfordadvocate.com/gb…..oid:162481
Disgusted, we are all completely in agreement — we also hope Lieberman replaces Rumsfeld.
Today. Now. This Very Moment.
Love your 137, Anne! Printing off a copy for Kate and Ripple right now.
Imm 142 — fascinating how an allegedly “neutral” journo can get that much spin on a sentence, innit?
OT but I finally watched V last night …
One line jumped out at me that was just perfect wrt the events of the day and I want to share with Darkblack and Jane especially;
“…artists use lies to tell the truth while politicians use them to cover it up”
Disgusted @ 145- Wow, that’s so convenient that your internet handle models your concern-troll sentiments. Great forethought! I wish I’d had the good sense to go by the handle “Ned Lamont Will Save Us All” two years ago when i started blogging. I’d look like a genius now.
The best line, I thought, in the Hartford article @147 is this:
Thats why the whole country is following the Lamont/Lieberman primary so closely. What the country wants to know is this: Will anyone in power pay for the mess theyve gotten us into? Thats how a democracy ought to work. And Lieberman ought to pay.
immanentize @ 139 – I agree.
Lamont should be able to turn the blackface question into support of Net Neutrality.
Something like … without Net Neutrality, the criticism of the graphic would still be in the Internets que somewhere
13 Points ?!!?
In Your Face, Mooseboy ! ! !
Disgusted,
We are all in complete agreement: Lieberman should replace Rumsfeld.
Now. Today. This Very Moment.
Pach,
In a way you’re right, and in a way you’re wrong. I think the morale effect it will have–postively for Nedrenaline and negatively for Joenertia–is most valuable in this home stretch. Without a doubt, there will be fence-sitters, lukewarm on Joe, who will sit it out or switch their vote. It will knock Joe back on his heels, and he sucks on defense. More negative questions at his pressers, more petulant and WATB remarks, more threats of leaving the party and firing his staff. Meanwhile, more people to check Ned out and find out what he’s all about.
Thanks, Medaka, and now for the fun of looking……..
“denounce” — what a stupid idea. Jane is basically a partisan journalist. Ned isn’t demanding that Lieberman “denounce” every jackoff comment by O’Reilly, Coulter, Hannity, and Bill Bennett, nor can he demand that reporters (like Haigh) who offer relentlessly friendly coverage stop following him around.
My response to Lieberman’s “Demand” would be to say,
“I demand that Joe Lieberman stop relying on Republicans and their money to influence the Democratic Party primary.”
please dont feed the trolls — they get zapped pretty damn fast — by the time you write your witty riposte, they have already been deleted.
that statement proves you have not been reading this blog
Re: Joes “Hail Mary” — what a joke. Lamont doesn’t even need to make a new commercial to dispatch with that idiocy.
“We undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.”
If they were going to respond, I’d love to see a clip of Lieberman calling John Kerry’s withdrawl agenda a “strategy for retreat and defeat” on the Senate floor.
Too late, Joe: all you managed to teach CT residents is that Ned is rich, and that you’re an asshole.
Wow. What a headline to start my day with.
Of course the Lieberman Campaign has been doing there own polling and have known this for awhile, which is why Joe always looks so down in the dumps. This isn’t even going to be close . . . which will make it impossible for him to justify running as
a turncoatan independent .Now I am going to go and read the rest of the post!!! (can’t believe you were writing this at 6 something in the am EDT, Jane!)
OK, Disgusted is definitely a fake concern troll. I mean every fact free cliche that we mock here daily….
Today’s personal favorite:
Back to the basement, Disgusted. Your people have fucked everything up–and I mean everything. You have no concept how long you and yours will wander in the political wilderness, if they’re not outright anihillated.
“Better to be strong than right,” indeed. A mantra for your kind. The shortwave awaits, and it murmers of the impending cataclysm. Once you get it tuned, that is.
Back to the basement.
Joe’s doing a “Hail Mary” pass? Is he pandering to the Catholic vote again? At 20%, Italian-Americans are the largest ethnic group in CT
Oh, brother…”sever all ties?” What? Joe now has the high moral ground now? Yeah, okay. This is the guy who said Ned could “have Sharpton and Jackson,” which was a stunningly immature comment and pretty much of a slap at the worthiness of a Sharpton/Jackson endorsement.
Ned should not have responded that he knows nothing about the blogs – that’s a statement that can be disproved in less than a heartbeat. What he needs to say, in a cheerful and upbeat tone, is something along the lines of, “I’ve read the text that accompanied the graphic, something it appears that very few in the media have taken the time to do. What I read, and what I understood that graphic to represent, is the superficiality and hypocrisy of Joe’s claims to be an advocate for the black community. Is the “blackface” depiction pleasant to look at? Of course not. It’s a symbol, and the symbolism of Joe in blackface in juxtaposition with Ms. Hamsher’s article is the visual representation of a candidate who is not a consistent friend to and supporter of the issues that affect the African-American community, and, for that matter, communities all over the State of Connecticut. Joe Lieberman, whose claims are based pretty much on his marching weith MLK, derided the endorsements of two of the most active and effective leaders within the African-American community – Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton – by stating that I could have those endorsements, implying, it seems to me, that those endorsements were not as worthy as the ones he received from mostly white politicians, with the exception of John Lewis. I suspect Joe would be surprised to learn how offensive that comment was to members of the AA community, as well as to Reverends Sharpton and Jackson, and how it simply confirms that he is tone-deaf on so many issues that confront us today.”
That’s kind of a long-winded thing to say, but apparently, there isn’t a whole lot of thinking and critical analysis going on, and who better to take this out of Joe’s hands and frame the issue properly than Ned?
No comment about the Israel – Lebannon conflict.??
Concern TREAULL!! Try some reading!
ccmask at @ 126 is right about Big Bill’s influence. 2% is nothing to sneeze at especially considering very few friendship endorsements (unless there’s an organization behind it) mean anything at all. I’m thinking the Sharpton and Jackson endorsements are probably worth more since it blunts Lieberman’s appeals in the black community.
I figured Jane was going to take some heat pretty soon, what with Wing Commander Kos having been out of the picture.
Rabid Jane Lamsher and the Venom-Spitters are in town to liven things up! Let’s impose the right’s cult of personality/top-down paradigm on ‘em!
the Rumsfeld hearings at the Armed Services Cmte is on now live on CSpan1
I see now! No new comments appear while trollz are getting trex’d ….
*ilson46201 @ 160
yes, thank you *ilson … must learn to breathe, think, THEN snark …
Just for the record, I am generally pro witty riposte.
NYT: Israel Restarts Beirut Strikes; Blair Says U.N. Near Deal
Christy – sounds like you are enjoying the Sonoma based diet – your breakfast sounded wonderful. I am on the same – sent in that direction by a remark from lhp in late June. Congrats on your success, it is a wonderful way of eating.
This wonderful community provides so many benefits. For many of us they are wider in scope than a casual passerby would imagine.
Your accomplishments leave me in awe and appreciation every day. Thank you for all you do.
Anne @6:07 there is a small sign outside my back door. “This house is maintained for the care and comfort of my dogs. If you can’t accept that you can’t accept me – so go away.”
Now, for some serious stuff . . . Confessions of a Coffee Addict, courtesy of the SF Chronicle’s food section.
For you coffee addicts in the midst of the heat wave, the Coffee Ice Cream Float that they mention sounds like it might be something to think about this afternoon. (Or even for those of us the heat wave has already passed.)
And *ilson, I hear that cute mailcarriers come by the house six days a week . . . better luck today!
http://www.stamfordadvocate.co…..-headlines
Jackson, Sharpton stump for Lamont
(Pardon if this link is already posted, but I had not seen it yet; pretty good article for Ned)
immanentize @ 158
Ezzactly. Joe is desperate. He is going to milk this for all its worth. Lamont should come out swinging re the Hammity endorsement, the Coutler endorsement, the Rush Limbaugh endorsement…..
“I supported our war in Iraq but I have always questioned the way it was being executed,” Lieberman said.
Really ?
(h/t Common Dreams 12/05)
wrote in The Wall Street Journal on November 29, “The Administration’s recent use of the banner ‘clear, hold, and build’ accurately describes the strategy as I saw it being implemented in Iraq.”
of course rather muffled due to the good senator being planted so far up WH ass he’s praising their friggin’ banners
This is off topic but why don’t we ever see Karl Rove being interviewed by the MSM or on the Sunday morning talk shows? I never watch Fox so maybe he’s been on those shows. Granted, I’m not a fan of these shows but I do check out the guest list. Just curious.
Ned could say.. “I will keep Jane’s support and you can have Rush and Hannity and Coulter and Tom Delay.”
oh, oh, oh…. Firedoglaker here in Japan clicking my blog …. the recently not-seen notjonathan, perhaps?
Time to go back to the Right Wing Racists series, just in case people forget what racism looks like.
How many people discussed in this series are fighting for Joe? Coulter? Malkin? Check and check. The right wing blogosphere? Check mate.
mention of Katherine Harris brought to my strange mind a strange question:
Wonder who’d win in a steel-cage, bat-shit-crazy, looney-off battle of war-chests between Katherine Harris and Pammy from Atlas Shrugs?
That’d be a lot of crazy in a confined space – I’d spring for the pay-for-view fee.
ccmask @ 132
Don’cha know, he probably asked them privately, just like the “clarification” he gave to NARAL to get their endorsement. Surely it isn’t necessary in either case to say them publicly; we can just trust Important People to assure us that they were asked, right?
yeah, Pach. The Pajamawankers are even back at 183 …
“Oh ICK! Cheetos AND splooge on the comfy flannel! And Mommy just washed them! WAHHHH!”
jayt @ 184
. . . and I was just getting ready for breakfast. Guess that will have to wait until I can get that image out of my head.
immanentize @ 158
Ooh! That’s beautiful.
Mornin’, everybody. Got up early to see if the poll was up — what great news!
All you volunteers on the ground in CT: You’ve done a powerful work and I think we all know that each and every one of you is part of the increasing momentum for Ned.
You there in CT doing the hard work on the ground are the ones making it happen.
Keep your strength up, smile and blessings to you all as you go on your rounds.
Sending 68 degrees and very light rains from Eastern Maine to our pals in CT. May they arrive intact and w/out exaggeration.
Thanks for bringing the question of incumbency to the fore!! Go NED. Set an example for the rest of the lie-down-roll-over Dems to ponder.
I take the reverse point of view, for someone to be against lievberman they would have had to be pretty informed and disenchanted.
I wouldn’t think ANYONE who was against leiberman would have made the switch becuase of clinton
possibly clinton would sway someone who was on the fence, but that’s it
2% is a pretty good result in my opinion
Rumsfeld on CSPAN showing just how out-of-touch he is with what is going on in Iraq.
RE Joe’s recent “demands,” someone should ask him if he forgives Mel Gibson!
And I agree with Pach, this would be a most excellent time to come out swinging with the right-wing racist series, one of the most valuable things ever done on FDL, imo.
Medaka, at 6:49am…Warn me before you post things like that (goes to get towels to wipe coffee off monitor)
Good news on the poll take the good energy and makes some more happen.
dratty (and others):
I higher-than-usual turnout would be great, but don’t expect it to undercut Joe’s expected whine that “all the people” haven’t spoken. Primary turnout is always low, and even an unusually high-turnout primary will look low to the casual observer. I think a decisive win will make more difference.
Here’s my fantasy scenario (and I emphasize that, because I’m definitely not counting chickens when there’s so much work yet to do) — Joe loses the primary, files for indy, eventually realizes that it’s hopeless, but stays in the race just long enough that he can no longer credibly appear on Fox or MTP as a Democrat — everyone knows he’s a “former Democrat turned Independent.”
Mornin’ Firedogs,
a little coffeecake courtesy Unca TBogg -
http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2006…..ut-in.html
Tee Vee wise here in CT, the heat wave is THE only story. Nothing campaign-wise that happens today will get much play unless Lieberman or Lamont get hit by a tornado when the squall line leading the cool front comes through. We are the original weather-hysteria media market.
Also, the new Ned wish commercial is even more impressive when it comes on after the gloves-off attack ads for the D primary for gov and Lieberman’s ads. It’s one of those that stands out because of its lack of screaming and attacks. Kind of like in the out-of-control classroom in which the teacher starts speaking quietly and the students stop talking to hear what s/he is saying.
Old Sow – we’re hearing that weather relief for Maryland should be here tomorrow, but may come with severe thunderstorms. We could really use the rain, but not a gully-washer. Heat index here yesterday was 110…one of my daughters is at the beach (heat index 108), and she said the sand is too hot to walk on – they keep shoes on til they get to the tide line, set up right at the water’s edge, and inch their stuff forward or back depending on whether the tide is coming in or going out – they’re spending a lot of time up to their necks in the ocean (which sounds heavenly).
Would be good for all the GOTV people in CT to have cooler weather for this final push to Tuesday…thinking positive thoughts.
new thread
Just read the NY Times article on Ned’s $$. Quite good I think. Starts out with Joe’s attack line which is that he is a dilletant. (lazy, do-nothing rich boy).
But the article draws a different picture. Comes from a family of smart, hard working people who knoew how to make money. Entrepreneurial instincts. Hard worker.
And nothing nefarious. Or sleazy. Or underhanded about his funancial dealings. Straight-ahead business man. That will play very very well in the general election among independent (mild Republican & Libertarian Chamber of Commerce types).
Oh Anne, don’t know why your comment of Maryland brought back to mind that my nephew returns for his 3rd time to Iraq tomorrow. Iraq, where it’s always hot and dangerous. God Bless him and all the others there. ALL the others.
kirby – you haven’t experienced weather hysteria until you’ve been in Maryland in winter, when just the whisper of (snow) sends the hordes to the grocery stores for milk, bread and toilet paper (does snow make you have to go?), and the TV stations go on “Snow watch,” with each trying to be the first to identify the absolutely first flake to fall. Once a flake is spooted, then it goes nuclear, with 24/7 coverage that consists of “it’s still snowing” coverage from highway overpasses, grocery store and hardware store parking lots (lines of people buying shovels and salt) accompanied by dire-toned traffic coverage.
It’s like an all-day/all-night SNL parody of news and weather.
Boy, I wish I could be with you all in CT. I’m so proud of everyone there, and know how hard you’ve been working. I’ve been following the race and sending donations to Lamont – since that’s all I can do right now (been busy with wedding plans, I’m getting hitched in three weeks to very charming, intelligent, handsome progressive fellow)
Please send Lamont some raging love from NYC – let him know the nation needs him.
Old Sow – prayers for your nephew’s safety, and hugs and good thoughts for you and your family.
Old Sow @ 202
OS, that’s awful. Millions of blessings on your nephew and your family, and may he come back super-happy, super-healthy, and ready to run for office !!!
OS, Amen to your 201. You’ll pass along whatever you hear, we know. And we’ll hold him and them in our hearts all the while, you know. And in our pride.
Rummy talking about american’s common sense. I’d ask him to define common sense but I can guess what tortured, imcomprehensible babble would come out of his mouth.
The “what, me worry?” crowd use the phrase “bush hating” to deny reality. They can’t or won’t understand that what they call hate is legitimate extreme worry & dread about consequences of disastrous policies. This administration thinks it can outrun a oncoming train at a railroad crossing & insist that this country & the world be their passengers. Common sense people refuse to go along on a suicide ride.
With today’s statement, Joe has tried to move from the “Iraq is going great” position to the “Iraq was mishandled, but it was still right to go” position. Even if it was credible, it still wouldn’t do him any good, because he’s about a year behind most Americans and a larger majority of Nutmeggers, who have long since moved on to “the war was a mistake.”
So he looks weak for trying to shift his position, but doesn’t shift it enough to please voters — more brilliant campaigning from the hapless short bus!
(And did’ja notice he got in one last undercutting of fellow Democrats on the war yesterday? In response to the Dem leadership letter calling for a plan for a troop pullout, he said he “hopes” for a withdrawal but does not favor a timetable,” which just happens to be the GOP position.)
To all my true friends here (we are SO lucky to have one another) thanks for your prayers, you make me feel teary. He’s been back for 2 weeks on leave and my sister says he’s been talking to headhunters!! Sounds like he’s interested in another job, though he originally thought he’d like a career in the military. I think his recent marriage to an environmentalist has stirred up his braincells.
OS, how long is this deployement SUPPOSED to last? What kind of unit is he in?
Also, Brian Lehrer on WNYC (which plays up in So CT) will be covering the courting of African American votes in the Lamont – Lieberman race starting now. Starts at 10 am EDT and is avail as a podcast and as a live stream at wnyc.org. Its a call-in show so heads up for folks! Brian is very even handed and will ask tough questions re both candidates.
LInk for wnyc:
http://www.wnyc.org/shows/bl/episodes/2006/08/03
Sorry — he is intervewing Diane Farrell running against Shays. Lamont – Lieberman tomorrow am.
after sleeping on it, i don’t think the picture situation is going to be that big of deal. timmay could play gotcha with it, but that would be pretty low rent to hold lamont responsible for the work of a relatively little known blogger volunteer… the q-poll seems to be bigger news already…
While everyone is listing poor Joe’s failures maybe a quick look at what is really happening throughout the United States in political races gets a little clarified here, in the NY Times piece today.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08…..r=homepage
While wealth is not a bad thing, too many of these races are going to the the guys with the most money.
And it’s my way of thinking: What really do any of these candidates share in common with the average voter they seek the votes from?
And who do they ultimately respond to once they get elected: the voters or the wealthy corporations that helped put them in the Senate or the Governor’s office?
While we’re maligning poor Joe, let’s not overlook where these guys are all coming from on an ever increasing rate.
And what their true motivations in seeking public office are about.
feel the Joementum….
I’m totally psyched about this polling news (and the fact that it’s upstaging yesterday’s depressing developments).
It confirms what I’ve been experiencing in hundreds of recent phone calls to unscreened (sequential by phone number) lists of registered CT Democrats in Stamford, Greenwich, and Norwalk: in these areas, “Strong Lamont” and “Leaning Lamont” voters are outnumbering “Any Lieberman” supporters by close to 2 to 1.
Furthermore, based on my telephone exchanges, I would describe Lamont supporters as passionately energized, while I’d describe Lieberman supporters as stubbornly loyal. The Lamont types want to talk about the issues, while the Lieberman types gruffly declare “This is a Lieberman household and I don’t appreciate you people cannibalizing the party!”. That makes Ned’s support even stronger than the polls suggest.
Still, these polls were conducted before The Picture, which the right-wing has yet to fully capitalize on. I don’t think it will derail the race or anything, but here’s my EPU’d post (written before the polling news upstaged The Picture) in case anyone’s interested…
I’ll try to share some pics soon which I snapped at those rallies, which were magnificent.
Peace.
Quick Q: Let’s say it’s best and worst news in November. Dems take the Senate by one seat (counting a victorious Lieberman). If Bush appoints him Sec Def, would the Repub governor be able to name a GOP replacement and hand the Senate back to the rubber stampers?
Kimba@7 – Howdy, Kimba. Love to read your posts – it’s lovely to see us from your perspective after living so long in this weird era where updownism seems more and more normal after 6 years. It’s also frustrating and infuriating when I think of how much ground we’ve lost with this dipso president. I look forward to more from you. And thanks for the wine recommendations!
I was at the Lamont get together in Bristol,CT. Saturday evening and I was just energized by the talk Ned Lamont had with us all. Well I was registered as an Independent and Monday I went to City Hall to change my affiliation to Democrat to vote for Mr. Lamont. While I was there four other people came in and changed their affiliation to Democrat also. He has touched a lot of people here in CT. and I hope the country sees what’s really going on here.
As a Connecticut resident, my take is that Lamont will not get any more votes on election day than he does on primary day, and Lieberman will win re-election as an Independent with 55-60% of the vote.
ARE WE SECURING THAT POLL ACCESS WILL NOT BE DENIED TO ANYONE?
sorry for the caps, and no, I have not read the enitre thread, so if this has been covered my apologies.
But what if there is voter intimidation in the poorer districts? What if we see a replay of presedential 2000 and 2004, here, at the primary level, the very foundation of our democracy?
I would not put ANYTHING past those who want to hold us back, including the repug approve Lieberman campaign.
Lastly, not only is this national in scope, it is international in scope. As a non CT, NJ native who lives overseas, our ability (over 4 million of us worldwide) to serve as chosen amabassadors for our country has been compromised by Bushco’s ridiculous policies over the years. We took the risk, embraced the unknown, to move forward with our country behind us as we ventured with our families abroad, only to see that Bushco eroded every last morsel we left behind as our foundation.
Yes, Lamont’s success is the ultimate litmus test for us all next week. And the world is counting on it…
DBL @ 220
On what do you base this?
Thank God he has a 10% lead. If it dips today, I’m blaming you, for your lame ass photo you posted at Huffington Post.Talk about giving Joe needless ammo!
Get off the high horse Jane, and get back to the insightful and laser sharp writing that made this site so important! It seems that after your sites visual facelift, your amazing writing has been splashed and blured with your spittle. I love you, but the messenger should never upstage the message. Bill Clinton learned that lesson…
so holy joe loserman didn’t like the picture ???
big fucking deal (and thanks for the free advertising joe)
somebody needs to tell loseman to stop with the WATB act:
so there’s some free advice for loserman, am I a loserman supporter now ???
I didn’t mention Ned once … well, maybe once …
I think the best way to read the Q Poll is to understand that the votes are potentially there for a significant outcome, but from now on in it is all about getting every last one of them voted.
That means a well executed GOTV ground game over the next few days, and pretty strict message control so as to not alienate anyone. As one of my Campaign Managing friends always puts it — the last few days are Gandhi time — meaning you stay super positive, and when attacked respond on message, very short sentences, and do lots and lots of turning the other cheek.
If the poll is half right, it means you have a reasoned possibility of great success. Don’t invent anything new that might blow it.