The favorite guessing game here in Connecticut is "what will Joe do?" What will Joe do if he loses on August 8? Will he drop out, run like a bastard or jump into the arms of the GOP? While the Q-Poll this morning was encouraging, the risk is that people get over-confident and don’t show up to Connecticut to get people out to the polls. Most people feel that Joe’s decision to either drop out or create a three-way race is predicated on how he does vis a vis Lamont on August 8. If it’s close, he’ll probably stay in. If he gets his ass handed to him, he’s certainly much more likely to drop out. Which means that the money and resources will go to Democrats in the three hotly contested House seats where it belongs, and really strengthen the Democrats’ chance to take back the House in November.
So even if you’re thinking that the race is safely in the bag (and I certainly am not — other polls put this race much more close), it’s really important for November that people show up and help Ned GOTV. Joe is going to need to be decisively and thoroughly beaten on August 8 so that he doesn’t stick around and pull the Democratic party apart in November, and in the process selfilshly throw the House to the GOP.
What you can do:
Volunteer to help out by coming to Connecticut
Send a personal postcard to family, friends and neighbors in Connecticut
Meanwhile, Lieberman’s plans to flood the state with 4,000 paid field staff is not going so swimmingly — something Matt Stoller predicted a while back (and rumor has it that out-of-state GOTV gun for hire Tom Lindenfeld may have been shitcanned). I have no doubt that we will have much more fun amongst ourselves than a bunch of people working for $60 a day to show up and heckle Ned (as the LieberYouth are now doing) for someone they probably don’t care very much about. My inbox is filled with emails from bloggers and big lefties who are swarming here for election night, so I hope everyone can find their way here, knock on some doors and share in the excitement.
–p.s. from MODERATOR– ck says in comment:
For those who want to help Ned Lamont but can’t make it to Connecticut, MoveOn.org is hosting a Virtual Phone Bank.
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Thought you might be amused/have use for this image I just altered: cocoapuff dance, Lieberman remix
ned!
Colbert!
Things are looking really nice. Go Lamont!
I felt like Ned was talking straight to me in that video.
I’m coming, Mr. Lamont!! See you this weekend!!
hello, i was wondering if you could add some other candidates to your act blue page.
I wanted to introduce you to mike stagg and Stacey Tallitsch both hardcore democrats running for congress in Louisiana.
thank you.
Keith
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ot – hillary clinton calling for key bush official to resign – blitzer keeping us in suspense and won’t say who yet.
Rumsfield!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/200…..NlYwM3MTY-
Remember how bummed we were about the endorsements Joe got from NARAL and PP (National Offices) and some CT labor unions.
End it on Tuesday.
Please do come to CT!
We’ve got a room from Sat-Wed. and would like another person to share Sun.-Wed. (got someone Sat. night). $50/night. It’s at the hotel across from the campaign HQ and rumor has it that the Tues. night soiree will be there.
I have complied with Great Leader Jane’s instructions-I have sent emails and postcards to all CT dems I know, and thrown in a few quid as well. Alas, my relatives are all Repugs. Go kick his ass!
My money went to Connecticut today, since I can’t. Also my hopes and prayers for Nutmeggers to save our republic.
GO NED!
gee, who would have guessed it was rummy after today’s events. thanks kristinejoy, now i’m not locked the situation room.
Orcinus says it all.
‘Bottom feeders’
http://www.dneiwert.blogspot.com/
~~~
I know, its been flogged to blog-death, but someone had to wrap it up and put a bow on it.
~~~
OK, add Tbogg’s take cuz its good, really good (and lotsa comments too!)
http://tbogg.blogspot.com/2006…..ut-in.html
We who cannot come salute you. And support you however we can. It’s gonna be a heckofa time. GO NED!
Yeah, Hillary is on the attack. Maybe BigDog felt the winds change up on stage with Joe. They get it, now.
Hey Jane- I’m coming to CT (New Haven)- is there a way to meet up with other FDLers?
What great guy, can he be anymore sincere?
Don’t forget to bring your hatchet with you!
I mean a central contact point? M/VG
I can’t watch Ned anymore without getting all teary-eyed. This is the big one, folks.
kristinejoy 8 -
My goodness! :)
Keith, I appreciate you asking, others haven’t been so approprite. I don’t speak for fdl, but I think you’d be better off waiting until after the August 8 primary in CT. After August 8, I would start with Howie Klein. I don’t know if he’s the decision maker, but he’s probably the best place to start. JMO
…knock on some doors and share in he excitement.
That certainly sounds like fun, but maybe you mean the excitement? Feel free to delete this comment. ;)
op99 @ 23
or quote it.
M/VG
You can send me an e-mail if you want at my name at macdotcom. I’m collecting cell numbers and will be trying to keep contact with FDLers. We’ll be in Meriden, the Ned HQ. I’ll send mine back to you.
fran, what did you think about Joe criticizing the President of the United States during a time of war?
Did you see those Q poll numbers?
There isn’t going to be a “Plan B.” Joe’s not going to get 33% of the vote.
How about coming over to Ned?
I haven’t heard back from the Lamont campaign about whether phone calls from out of state Dems to voters in-state would be welcome. During the Kerry campaign I got calls from California. I know they have their hands full, but if there’s a way to get call lists in the hands of those of us who are willing to dial, it’s something we could do. Screening might be an issue, but perhaps Jane and Christie would be able to identify known not-crazies who volunteer from FDL.
Fran, be careful what you wish for.
EPU’d from last thread.
Hillary calls for Rummy to resign.
Looks like the big Dems are already learning some important lessons from the
Lieberman fiascoLamont campaign. Bodes well for November…timewarp, thank you I missed that.
nice one Rayne.
LindaR, you still here?
timewarp #29:
The Clintons might be an accurate trailing indicator of voter sentiment.
The Nefarious Leslie @ 32
Here!
al-Scooter at 4:33 pm
ROTFLMAO
I am calling for Move-On’s Ned Lamont campaign.
I was so excited to mentally pack this morning w/TRex. What fun.
Jesus General has the funniest post up on the College Republicans – advice from the General. Hilarious.
Canvassing for Joe
I’m in Boston this week and will also be traveling next week, but have volunteered to help Ned on Sunday.
Can’t help as much as I’d like but every little bit counts. And I’ve already sent in my absentee ballot with a big X next to Ned Lamont’s name. It felt wonderful!!!
OT – but I have been wondering this for a little bit. EPU’d from downstairs -
Fran, why do all your posts have weird line breaks?
Just seems like you are copying and pasting them from somewhere, which seems strange.
Oh yeah, I am in Southern California – not Connecticut.
Hah!
Impeach W
Get it?
____________
Hey Leslie we still all on for tonight?
Jane,
The attack on you is being WAY OVERPLAYED! Joe has to answer to voters – you do not! I’m sure everyone reading FDL agrees.
So what if you pissed Joe off. He’s pissed me, you, and his constituents off many times. How can he be taken seriously when he’s taking money from ALL THE WRONG CORPORATE INTERESTS?
Your readers come to FDL because you two strong women have your hearts and minds in the right place This is clearly an effort to silence you (and your valuable message). Do not doubt yourself, we are all behind you!
Think of the extra press coverage as FREE publicity. You go girl, and FDL please keep this talented person making graphics for FDL.
You came to Connicut to fight – Keep It Up!
al-scooter #33 — my thoughts exxactly! But interesting that she is not holding back until next week, they have washed their hands…
Poor Joey.
Speaking of hatchets…
Hilary’s playing hatchet girl for the neocons, to get favors from them later. Or maybe this was part of the “deal” to get Murdoch’s support.
I don’t trust the woman, anymore. NY can keep her as a Senator, until the Democrats have a strong enough majority to jettison its refuse.
Trying to decide who needs to go next: Biden, HRC or Schumer.
M — once you get here, contact Christina (Siun) at the Meriden headquarters. I’m sure we’ll all be getting together.
DaleFromIndiana — many thanks.
The blogs are now equating Jane with Mel Gibson. We are way under their skin! You go girl!!!!!
I’d go for Biden. I’d say that both Schumer and Hillary are untouchable for now. NY politics is a tough nut to crack. No one is averse to playing rough and tumble.
No Jane, we shold thank you.
Stephen @ 47
Jane got picked up for DUI? She resisted arrest? Why are we just hearing about this now?
Lieberman is not only going to lose, but lose big. After that he can do as he pleases, nobody will care. But it will be a huge wakeup call to the party leadership. Instead of rats deserting a sinking ship, they will all be trying to jump on the bandwagon. I think the Republicans know this better than anyone. They are hoping Armageddon in the middle east will work to their advantage. As usual the people are ahead of the curve on this. It’s all about war. An Americans are sick and tired of it.
Jane Hamsher should get a Nobel Peace Prize.
As a loyal FDL’er, it was sure a pleasure to read your comment Dale.
Lieberman’s spokesperson, Dan Gerstein is on MSNBC calling Ned a racist. The effort worked, people. Joe is lying now. Gerstein keeps saying Joe “has been a consistent critic of the President’s handling of the war.”
Thanks Jane. I’ll be based in New Haven. I tried to phone the NH HQ several times today but the phone was always busy. Seems possible that same thing might be true at the Meridien HQ too! I hope not- are there alternate #s?
And, BTW, where’s the victory party gonna be?
OT – everyone’s favorite guy, Pat Robertson, now believes in global warming.
-Go Ned!
John Casper @ 26
Well I’ve thought about it John, but everytime
the level of the attack gets personal with
very hurtful language and pictures and (I think you know the ones I’m refering to) I stay with
Senator Lieberman.I’m very aware of the cowardly attack on Joe Wilson and his wife
Valerie and regret watching oterwise intelligent Democratic Liberals doing the same thing.
Stephen, who on MSNBC is interviewing him? Is this Hardball?
Did Gerstein use the word “racist?”
Please be specific.
Well I did hear a rumor that Jane was secretly working on a snuff film, tenatatively titled The Passion of the Coultergeist.
Politics is rough business…if those wingnuts can’t play hardball, they should go home to their cheeto enclaves and cry to their mommies :)
Dan Gersten is EXACTLY the kind of Dem that the Lieberman’s of the world accuse the grassroots of being.
You call your DEMOCRATIC opponent a racist, then it just makes it easer for the rethugs to pick it up and run with it in the general election.
Remember this little accusation did not start with the graphic. It began when Joe’s campaign printed those nasty fliers.
Proud Fran? Who are you going to support on August 9th? The Democratic nominee or the turncoat?
John in Ca and NefLes — I don’t think I’m going to make it tonight. Things are clicking in this chapter I’m working on, and I don’t want to offend the muse!
But I’ll be there if I get finished.
Jane, I’m gearing up for the big weekend. Be sure to keep me posted on what you’re up to and where the action will be.
From tomorrow at 6PM (gotta make a living) ’til late Sunday night, I’m going all-out with covering the campaign and blogging ’til it hurts!
And I’m taking Tuesday off (can’t Monday, sadly) to go on the road with Kirby and do some live- and video-blogging!
I’m ready. And reporting for duty.
Oh … paging Dan Gersten, paging Dan Gerstern, please come to the courtesy video phone
LIEberman is wrong: DEAD Wrong
Thanks for this Ava
Personally, I think Lieberman will be shell-shocked come Wednesday morning, and won’t have the spirit to run at all. He’s been taking his privileges for granted for far too long to be able to pick himself up and do it the hard way.
You guys all rock!
LindaR, and then I disappear on you! Sorry ’bout that. You gonna be there tonight?
I’ve decided fran is a boy trying to sound like a woman. And I think fran is a troll/spy. And I think the gig is up. If I were spying I think I’d shut my piehole,.
Gersten=Gerstern
Don’t know how to edit
John Casper @ 56
John, he was interviewed on Hardball by Chris Matthews sub. He kept saying that Jane was part of Lamont’s campaign. Over and over. Also, kept insisting that Lieberman has consistantly challenged Bush. Yeah, right…
It was somewhat sickening…
Mike Barnacle is filling in for Tweety.
Gerstein’s first attack was that Lamont had resigned from an all-white country club. Reverend Al(?) retorted that Bill Clinton had to do the same thing (when he ran for Prez). Then Al mentioned that Lieberman had paid for flyers to be distributed at Black churches, documenting the Lamont affiliation with all-white golfers; which Gerstein acknowledged as the truth. If that ain’t playin’ the race card, I’m Ricky Bobby.
John Casper & timewarp:
Sorry, I couldn’t help the snark.
But I’m hoping that the Clintons – bless their risk-averse, triangulating hearts – will lead the DLC types into working with us for a change. All people like Jane, Christy et al are doing is pledging their lives, fortunes and sacred honor (or large fractions thereof) to blaze the trail back to a saner society. While it’s sad that the people who ought to be leading this trend are following it (maybe), at least this is a strategem that has its elements in alignment for once.
It’s a start.
I would like to nominate Joe to be the president of a brand new, very exclusive, club.The DINOGA* Club.
*Dem In Name Only Go Away.
al-Scooter @ 68
I totally agree. Because when their hearts are in the right place, they are both excellent and talented politicians. I think that Hillary’s hiring of Peter Daou was a good omen.
HopeSAT — that one, regardless of gender, certainly has some limitations with writing persuasively.
Making veiled or outright hostile comments and then criticizing others for doing the same is not persuasive.
My other concern, Fran, is that your arguments seem to be based largely on the perceived hurtfulness of statements made about Sen. Lieberman. Emotional arguments touching on what is nice and fair, seem a little dodgy under these circumstances. Sen. Lieberman’s record as a senator is what is on the table, and, to a lot of voters, that record shows him to be an un-faithful Democrat and elected representative.
Some folks are expressing their dissatisfaction with pretty strong language (and imagery), but challenging the tastefulness of the language and imagery does nothing to address the substantive underlying complaints.
*regretfully stows bag of troll-chow back in the cubbard*
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 64
And I’ll raise you one. *fran* and *lo*: separated at birth? Same syntax and other similarities.
M…
good luck in Conn. Say hi to everyone for me.
Go Ned!!
Jane,
Is there any way those of us who cannot come can still help by, say, getting lists of people to call — either to remind/encourage them to vote, and/or arrange transportation/babysitting/etc. if they’re otherwise housebound?
Perhaps this could be accomplished via the Roots Project?
Agree Jenny
Damn, Hardball was great. Sharpton shoved that piece of literature handed out in black neighborhoods right in Gerstein’s face. Gerstein sure tried to tie the blackface stuff back to Lamont, but Sharpton wasn’t having any of it and neither was the host. “It was a blogger, not the campaign!” they both said emphatically.
In any case, Gerstein made me nervous just to watch. He was incredibly twitchy. That guy is feeling the heat intensely. He looks ready to blow.
Incidentally, here I am a CT resident and I would so be helping this weekend but I’ve had some vacation time scheduled to be in New Hampshire for a long weekend. My cousin would shoot me if I backed out and my son’s going back to college shortly and wants to visit. However, I had kept the primary in mind before scheduling this and will be back in time for that, of course.
I don’t even know if I’ll have any internet access while there. I’ll be going into election info and FDL withdrawal. Ack!
Hey everyone.
Please don’t forget about Patricia Madrid in New Mexico this weekend. If you can give $5, do it.
Venceremos!
Atrios links to this incredible joe-moment.
http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006…..gator.html
Warning, its hilarious.
Sharon W -
Sharpton was the perfect diffuser to address this controversy. He’s to the point, funny and tough. I love it.
timewarp 4:54 p — I need to see more evidence of change on the part of DLC as a whole. The bit that came up recently where the DLC dissed the netroots in spite of soliciting and culling ideas from the netroots for their SinceSlicedBread.com effort was offensive. They actually took the ideas, used them as their own, and then bashed the netroots.
Re Hillary’s call for Rummy’s head: Could this simply be the beginning of Joementum’s exit strategy?
Jenny from the Blog @ 73
WE NEED TO START PLANNING FOR THE ELECTION NIGHT SPIN.
I know, it’s bad luck to count your chickens this way, but it’s absolutely necessary to control the spin next Tuesday night, and the next day as well, because it’s the real prize for this.
We want the story to be about the collapse of the DLC centrists. They will want the story to be about the hijacking of the Democratic Party by bomb-throwing bloggers.
It’s vital that we have people lined up and ready to go and explain what this victory means, and to claim triumph in the name of the great majority of Americans that are fed up with this administration and its enablers. And we need to say that the old ways of the Democratic Party is over.
Maybe you have some better idea of what the key points need to be, but it is vital that we get ready for this ahead of time, because having no message for the post-election post-mortem will deprive us of the biggest prize of all.
If this is spun as the loony left throwing out the noble maverick, then Lamont (and by extension, us) will be badly injured. Lamont is poised to be our spokesperson in the Senate. If he is marginalized from the very first day, then we are once again marginalized.
Seriously, we need to take care of this. Yes, win the election, but god, please be prepared for this part.
And be ready to throw a few bombs Schumer and Clinton’s way too. They threw their support behind a loser, and they are out of touch with America. Be sure to stick that in there.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 66
Excuse me while I wipe away the tears of laughter.Your a class act Turtle!
fran, Lieberman’s the one supporting the veiled white supremacy agenda of the neocons.
Why are Maxine Waters, Jesse Jackson, and Al Sharpton all on the ground in CT campaigning for Ned?
“Personal,” who the heck is worried about “personal”. Your boy Joezoe has our military in Iraq and Afghanistan without a battle plan in a no-win situation. You want “personal,” try an IED. They are really “personal.”
Where’s the “personal” attack from Ned fran? Do you have a link?
As far as Joezoe’s concerned imo he is enabling a bunch of people who are no better than clever, veiled white supremacists. If you have evidence to the contrary, please, I am so interested.
fran, we’re not playing canasta here. If your Emily Post book of political manners is upset, too damn bad. You’re guy, Joezoe, has sold out the Bill of Rights. That’s the best damn defense we have against Terrorism, a free and open society, where everyone is held accountable, under the law.
:::::best curtsey::::thank you.
I have seen the doctored photo of Lieberman with his black face. I dont know how it is offensive to African Americans. This is simply lampooning Lieberman as he tries to be black friendly while his record speaks otherwise. It was a good idea to remove the photo but JANE can defend hereself because she never meant to offend Blacks and is the last person to be racist.. It was only to show the ridiculous and low life tactics that Lieberman is using in his vain attempt to keep his Senatorship.
His raising of a non isuue is only a last minute attempt of a desperate looser who will catch any straw to stop his drowning. I KNOW HOW JANE MUST BE FEELING. BUT HEY JANE KEEP YOUR HEAD UP. YOU HAVE NOT DONE ANY THING WRONG. THE LAMONT COMPAIGN SHOULD BE ETERNALLY THANKFULL TO YOU FOR BRINGING MUCH NEEDED ENERGY AND SPIRITS.
We must let the Triangulators push to the front of the anti-war parade on August Ninth. Hillary, Dianne, et al., will all find their way to the van and exhort us to follow their glorious lead against this criminal enterprise, BushCo.
Thank you G C 90, that was sweet.
Slate weighs in on the kerfuffle (with pic!) — Politicians, beware of the crazy bloogers!
For those who want to help Ned Lamont but can’t make it to Connecticut, MoveOn.org is hosting a Virtual Phone Bank.
fran @ 57
This has to be the most mendacious pack of bullhockey I’ve ever seen.
You will support someone because you think people are picking on him, never mind the issues, never mind right or wrong?
I knew a kid that used to pull crap like that–I’m sure we all did. Somebody who instigated fights, then ran to the teacher and turned on the tears and claimed everyone was being mean to him/her, boo hoo hoo, I didn’t do anything, they just started ganging up on me, wah wah wah! But it didn’t take long for teachers to realize what the snivelling little manipulator was up to and turn on him.
Joe Lieberman has done next to nothing for real Americans in 18 years. That is the issue. Period.
So argue his record, and leave off the schoolyard bullshit. Because people are onto Lieberman, including the teachers. Joe’s pissed off enough people that he’s up for a most deserving option: Getting expelled, like the garbage he is. We’ll have to see how that pans out.
It’s been a crappy few days, but it is nice to have a couple of things that make you feel like there are people you can admire.
For me today, it’s Jane and JAG.
Jane and the Lamont campaign and the possiblity that one of the disastrous voices in the chorus might get replaced – it’s just wonderful. The Kiss Float may go down in history. Siun and Jane and TRex and Maura and CTBob and … it just goes on. The best – win, lose or draw – the best.
My other highspot, JAG Says – Let’s Do This The Right Way (paraphrasing)
It really almost makes me kind of sniffly. These are the guys under the gun – with the direct pressure from every source (and no support from Haynes) including internal pressure from so many competing interests and principles they have on the line. But they still show up in front of Congress and buck the CIC and DOJ.
Who expects anyone in such a tough spot to actually just dig in and try to do the right thing these days? It makes me feel very small and very proud.
Thanks for the MoveOn link. Happy to help on Monday (worky this weekend)and hurrah for flat feel phone service!!
Jenny from the Blog @ 80
Absolutely, and he also clarified that Lamont’s country club wasn’t exclusionary. He pointed out that unlike Bill Clinton’s country club it wasn’t ALL white. And Gerstein and Lieberman had no right to try and turn this into race-baiting with that awful piece of literature he handed out.
Then Gerstein tried the…but, but, but Lieberman marched with Martin Luther King! To which Sharpton brought forth an absolute stroke of genius point that I never knew. Martin Luther King wouldn’t support Lyndon Johnson who had done more for the blacks than any politician with the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act for one MORE important reason and THAT was the immoral Vietnam War. For King the far bigger issue was that immorality. Damn, he was good. Even the host was all “whoa, good one,” although not in those words. :)
How come no news organization is giving the history of “the picture”? Why it was created is the REAL story. It should be made known that the picture was the result of the flyer (non-union-printed) and was a jab at lieberman and not in any way racial commentary.
Mary at 96
I concur. Once you get past Colonel in the military so much of it is bootlicking and being a good yes-man. The JAG lawyers like Swift and those in your link make me proud to have served.
Sharon W -
Thanks for the play by play! I’ve sworn off all TV news shows and if it’s not up at C&L I miss out. Much appreciated.
I second Dale at #43.You go girl! Go Ned! Stuck here in Santa Fe with health issues.Dammit!
Hey Mary — forgot to send a shout-out and say thanks about the info on ACLU. I see that those weenies at Stop the ACLU have already been dogging Levin, too, in regards to JAG’s testimony. Will have to follow up on this ACLU news with Levin’s office.
Thanks Phoebes and Steve.
Senator Lieberman does not want to talk about the US invading and occupying the Middle East. Senator Lieberman does not want to talk about the high cost of energy. Senator Lieberman does not want to talk about the environment. Senator Lieberman does not want to talk about Congress selling America cheap to the nearest lobbyist. Senator Lieberman does not want to talk about Congress enabling the executive branch to break the separation of powers and shred of the Bill of Rights. Senator Lieberman does not want to talk about state sponsored torture and secret prisons supported by our tax dollars.
Senator Lieberman wants to talk about a photo that was taken down next to a post that was not. Senator Lieberman has never questioned the accuracy of that post, but he loves talking about the photo that was taken down.
Hey fran, I know you can read and write. What did you think about the post Jane wrote that was the next to the photo that was taken down?
Rayne @ 81
You are right, they will deal with us only when they learn they have no other option. Eventually they will. They are threatened in the way that all petty beuracrats are – for it is personal to them, they feel that their livelihoods are somehow at stake (which is true to some extent).
And in the meantime, I don’t mind terribly if they do take our good ideas and run with them as if they are there own, because the bottom line is that they are good ideas.
And in the meantime, they are saddled with Dean and the netroots, which are definately changing the face of the Dem Party. Which reminds me, I got a fundraising call from the DNC the other day and the kid on the phone was totally psyched (and very well informed) about Lamont. For that reason alone, I gave money!
I turned the Stop the ACLU people to Warner Bros. I think they may have to raise some legal fee money soon…
Jane- what about posting that link that ck gave for moveon phone bank as an update to the article? THAT would be a GOOD thing to have up top. #95 (sorry can’t figure how to repeat the fancy html
http://political.moveon.org/ph…..Q&t=3
twolf1 @ 99
No mulligans in politics, my friend. The deed is done and back-explaining it when it appeared without explanation is too time consuming and complex for the average family and friends of Harrison Bergeron.
G C/ Regarding Photos @ 90
Well I’m not a fan of Janes but I know she would not do anything that would offend a
minority in fact what I have read is mostly
hopeful and helpful but it’s a slippery slope
to be on when you use graphics that way.
Fran – you do realize, don’t you, that the “attacks” Americans are undergoing in Afghanistan and Iraq — those are the ones that are actually, truly, “personal” and
“hurtful”.
HSAT – you are a class act! Huge class.
{{{{{HSAT & FAMILY}}}}}
From a morning thread, this is for you, Jane –
http://www.firedoglake.com/200…../#comments
What looseheadprop says at 8:05 am –
The Media — repeat, the MEDIA — are trying to Swiftboat Ned Lamont by going through Jane.
Think about it.
Swiftboating never happens in a vacuum — it’s the MEDIA that turns it into a story, by repeating the GOP smear ad nausem. The MEDIA has become the propaganda organ of the Right Wing GOP, and it is our job to stuff their lies back in their faces.
The WaPo story by Dan “Tiny” Balz is the clue. He puts on his best concern troll face, reports the story of how a NED LAMONT supporter did something that might hurt NED LAMONT, and presto!!! — a Swiftboat Smear campaign is born.
Unfortunately for them, they chose to drive their Swiftboat through Jane Hamsher. BIG MISTAKE. The only question for our team, is how and when to respond. Keep your eyes on the prize, which is electing NED LAMONT and kicking Joe Lieberman under the bus.
But on August 9th, I suspect Tiny will rue the day he took on Jane Hamsher.
timewarp 5:12 pm — I’d be okay with DLC’s use of netroots ideas, had actually submitted one of my own, if they didn’t bash the submitters.
Says a LOT about how they feel about their constituents.
BTW Rayne – Levin’s “Why not” to the Gen saying he didn’t feel he should respond to the Cheney/Bush “last throes” fibs – PRICELESS.
I’m waiting for Stewart to do a clip with all the questions that generated the huge long paaaauuuuuses.
John Casper @ 104
John, Jane is a wonderfully wise woman
but of wisdom and kindness Ive heard it said
that wisdom begins when you realize kindness
is more important! Father Fran
twolf1 @ 97
Because for some people there is no excuse, no justification. It’s a fact. There are some images people won’t tolerate. There are some people who know those people exist and are wise to just not go there in a political situation. Explanations seem to turn into excuses.
Like I’ve been saying since yesterday, we have an unusual and new dynamic forming when the bloggers unite in the real world to back a campaign. Associations can be made directly to the candidate rightly or wrongly.
When we write and joke amongst ourselves, when we know very much so that our humor goes as far as Jonathan Swift’s “A Modest Proposal” and what sarcasm, satire, tongue-in-cheek are and there is no problem. However, the unfortunate reality is that in a campaign one has to be careful of any possible ill-perceived missteps.
Lord knows there’s plenty of offensive blogging out there, but when someone ties that directly to the real-world candidate because of associations it gets really sticky.
OK, *fran* is officially creeping me out.
Fran,
I was one of the people who objected very strongly, on this blog, to the graphic. NOt because I was offended or because I believe that Jane is racist. I was, however, very very worried that it would be used as it is now, by the Lieberman campaign. I am even more worried that it will be used in the General, unless people like Sharpton can put this in the proper perspective.
The point is, that Joe is the one who has been using the race-baiting tactic with his lame flyers. Joe Lieberman’s campaign inserted race into this campaign in a nasty, sneaky way (flyers at black churches, I mean really).
Even more to the point, none of this has anything to do with Lamont, as he has not called Joe or anyone else a racist. As Joe and his minions are. Which speaks volumes as to their quality of their characters.
there’s an old Russian saying: “Any stick will do to beat a horse.” To beat on Lamont, Lieberman and the media are using Jane. If it werent her, they’d be using some other distraction away from Joe’s record …
I find it beyond laughable that Lieberman is equating a lampooning of his attempt at portraying himself as a “soul man” to the viciousness of the outing of a CIA agent because her husband exposed BushCo in a lie.
Does Joementum really think these two actions are comparable? And by the way, where was Joe when Plame and Wilson (a man with a much longer history of bipartisan public service than Lieberman) were being shredded by his beloved BushCo and his friends at Fox?
And why wasn’t Lieberman forced to repudiate and issue an apology for Ann Coulter’s appalling attacks on the 9/11 widows and her bizarre statements about Clinton’s sexual orientation? After all, didn’t Coulter endorse Lieberman and urge him to join the Republican party? (By the way, the clip of Joey’s Republican friends on General Jesus’ site is absolutely devastating. Lamont should simply run those clips in an endless loop on CT TV until August 8th. Who needs expensive TV ads and direct mail campaigns with such damning praise from the lunatic right wing?)
I still think the graphic is hilarious and makes a point. People are asking, “Why do that to Joe?” and the obvious answer is, “Well, he was disingenuously pandering for black votes”, so ultimately, all the manufactured outrage is just making the image more famous and making sure more people see it.
And it is hilarious. Incidentally, I have shown it to four African American friends and they thought it was hysterical, too. This is one big manufactured, phony, back-arching, fake rage-gasm.
But we should be paying them big bucks for all this publicity. I bet the traffic stats are through the roof.
HSAT – I am pondering what you and JftB discussed earlier. Trying to examine the fascination and the URGE to INTERACT. Suspicion. Feel, oh, I don’t know, um, kind of BAITED. Skillfully baited, even.
So, Fran is against the war and is a lifelong member of the Democrat [sic] party, but s/he is going to support Lieberman because people are mean to her/him on this blog?
I hope you’re making this up, ’cause it makes me sad to think someone so stupid could vote.
JftB –
Pay no attention, and creep out goes *poof* . . .
LJ/Aquaria @ 95
Fran – What an interesting saying – was it said before, or after, Mission Accomplished?
Sometimes the kindest thing you can do is ditch the conventional wisdom; and sometimes the wisest thing for the country is to get rid of the kind of politicians who make all the wrong calls.
fran, in a discussion of the way European Americans have treated African American’s, I’m not sure “kindness” is something you want to mention.
If you want Joe to get African Americans attention, tell him to start talking about the “the debt” that the descendants of the slaves are owed. Abraham Lincoln talked about it in his second inaugural. The World Court awarded Swiss and German money to the descendants of Europeans who were enslaved by Hitler, so there’s precedent.
In addition to slavery, after the civil war, African Americans didn’t have access to education. In 1920, there were four high schools in the entire state of Florida who would admit a non-white of either gender. Regardless of ethnicity, people without education are more susceptible to unemployment, substance abuse, mental illness, and incarceration. If Senator Lieberman would have talked about these issues and driven legislation to address them, the tenor of this conversation would be a lot different.
EPU’d
lotus @ 348
Fran
However ’sincere’ you may be, what is apparent from your dialog here is that you don’t think for yourself. People in here have repeated ad nausea um the facts about Sen. Lieberman’s record. Which part do you not understand?
Mary makes such a good point about what real attacks are. While your comment about Jane’s sincerity is true, you are unconvincing.
Mary…thank you. (((((((((hugs)))))))))))
Jenny from the Blog @ 114
I keep looking at “fran”’s syntax, and I get the feeling fran is a youngish male Republican.
yeah — come to think of it — has Holy Joe ever said anything about the Valerie-whats-her-name kerfuffle? It’s surely worth a Liebermanaiad !
Try not to slip while standing on your box!
ck thanks for the link to moveon
I didn’t know about the virtual phone bank
*ilson – old Russians must never have bought margarine.
BTW – I thought of your reports when Rumsfeld informed everyone that the weather was one of the reasons for the spike in violenc.
Makes you wonder if getting the AC fixed in Iraq might let you bring a few thousand troops home.
Rayne #81:
As we used to say back in the day, have you lima-charlie!
But Teddy SF has it exactly right, IMO.
I long subscribed to the theory that the life of Christ is an allegory for change the difficult, human way. The Ghandi mantra has been repeated to the point of banality. Let me give you the “Christian” twist:
First they ignore you.
Then they mock you.
Then they kill you.
Then they co-opt your ideas.
Then they pervert your ideas.
I’m hoping we can average out Christ and Ghandi.
In light of the problems facing our society – and particularly their urgency – I’m afraid we’re going to have to work through a whole bunch of people we’d rather not. They might not share our ideals, but if they can champion some of our ideas to a wider audience and get them implemented, isn’t that really the goal?
Yeah, I know it hugely sucks that heroes often get martyred. We need to work on that part if we expect to survive much longer as a species. But we try to progess with the lizard-brains we have, not the enlightened ones we wish we had.
Mary @ 125
Yes! your right ,they had great success with your formula in the Gulags~
fran @ 129
I find it physically impossible to stand on my box. Someone else doing it might be in danger of slipping, sure, but that is what headboards are for.
ck -
I hear ya. :)
Gang, can we be done talking about the graphic now? Because I know that I, personally, think that Joe Lieberman has milked this distraction du jour long enough and we ought to get back to the issues that matter to the folks in Connecticut — and the nation at large — about this race. There are two people running in it: Joe Lieberman and Ned Lamont, and that’s it. There are SO many other things to discuss…including all the things about Joe Lieberman that he doesn’t want us to discuss. And all the great things about Ned Lamont that he’d rather no one else got to hear about.
So, what’s YOUR reason for supporting the Lamont candidacy? (If people are going to troll around, they might as well listen to all the reasons that this is important to all of us.) [Plus, I had a moment while my haricot verts are cooking, and thought I’d stop by and say hi to the evening crowd. :)]
Yes! your right ,they had great success with your formula in the Gulags~
Okay, it’s turned into a joke now, whatever its original motivation was.
Every campaign, every single one, has a moment when the opposition takes a tiny crumb and tries to make cake. In Kerry’s case, Kerry’s response led them to continue the debate although to be honest, I am not sure strong words would have had an effect. That was a huge swiftboating.
But Rove is very good at taking this tiny crumb and making a poison cocktail out of it IF the candidate backs down.
Ned was right to ask Jane to take it down but every time someone wants to talk about it now, Ned should respond “the picture is down, I did not like it either. Joe prefers to talk about this and country clubs rather than soldiers dying. How come? Joe, Why don’t you want to talk about Iraq? Or the money we are spending on iraq instead of Health care? Or …”. Make Joe, or anyone else trying to use it, pay a price for bringing it up.
Because that worked so well for Dean?
IMHO trolls who don’t even try to disguise their intentions as concern should go hungry.
LindaR @ 129
Well let’s say I’m youngish if you want but
I was around to support Gene McCarthy and George McGovern~
Christy:
So, what’s YOUR reason for supporting the Lamont candidacy?
Strip away the war and all the nonsense about Joe’s seniority and the myth that his “perverse bipartisanship” has done something for the country, much less teh Democratic Party, a clear and unequivocal call for universal health insurance is reason enough to vote for Ned. Not against Joe, for Ned.
Try not to slip while standing on your box!
ROFL – btw, I’ve heard it said that wisdom begins when you learn kindness is more …
nah, never mind.
I can’t believe the graphic is still a topic on conversation.
Disregard the shiny object! Disregard the concern trolls.
Social Security
Plan B
Iraq
Katrina
Universal Healthcare
5 critical areas worse directly because of Joe. Save your case of the vapors for the community theatre Fran, it’s not going to play here.
Keep marching folks, we’re making way!
TRex @ 118
Yeah, I wondered about that today as I briefly got on in the morning, but couldn’t get back on the site again until the afternoon. It just wouldn’t load. I wondered if it was due to heavy traffic or even a DoS attack.
Christy Hardin Smith @ 138
That’s the best thing I’ve heard tonight.
I would really like to hear more about what
Mr.Lamont intends to do if elected!
Okay, and it is worth saying for the billionth time: do not feed the energy creatures. A starved EC is a bored EC who goes elsewhere for feeding. You feed one, it thrives and plants itself. Capice?
“haricots verts”? You should try some Indiana green beans with a tad of onions browned in bacon grease … mon Dieu! good eatin’
fran @ 133
You know, fran, if you were even slightly amusing or made the slightest bit of sense it might be fun to have you around just to taunt.
Alas, you are neither.
Ignore the troll hehe.
OT:
Hillary calls for Rumsfeld to resign!
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Why do I support Ned Lamont?
At first, it was because he loud and proud self funded challenger to Vichy Democrat Joe Lieberman. That was enough — nobody without money could have pulled this off.
Now, I am a loud and proud supporter of NED LAMONT, because he is a Real Deal Progressive, who speaks for me. At every turn in this campaign, NED LAMONT has made the smartest and best choice — and that says a lot.
Most important — the more I get to know him, the more NED LAMONT makes me proud to be a Democrat!!!
OT, great pic.
http://interfacelift.com/wallp…..5;1024.jpg
nonono – YOu’re right Fran – they had great success with your formula in the Gulags~Joe IS one of the guys who brought us GITMO.
Getting rid of politicians who support gulags and war – even if they’ve been milking the incumbency cow so long you think it’s cruel that they may have to learn how to chew solids, well – its the price you pay when you say – Getting rid of American Gulags is more important than whether Joe will feel hurt that his Gulag Decoration Party for the new wing has to be rescheduled.
And the orange theme was working so well, too.
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 66
Linda…your read my mind..or my comment..lol.
I like Ned Lamont because when he smiles, it makes me think he is a good intelligent person I would like be associated with. And, most politicians’ smiles give me the creeps.
I’m sure Sharpton’s support of Lamont is particularly hurtful to Lieberman since the two were quite close during the primaries, even though their positions were far apart. They were something of an “odd couple.”
Hey *ilson and CHS- I just added a bit at the bottom on the article mentioning cks info about the virtual phone bank (ck now #94) but I couldn’t figure out how to add the link in the article. Can you? I did this bec. I thought it would be a great bit of info to have up top.
Reuters quotes Rummy at: http://today.reuters.co.uk/new…..MSFELD.xml
“If we left Iraq prematurely as the terrorists demand, the enemy would tell us to leave Afghanistan and then withdraw from the Middle East…And if we left the Middle East, they’d order us and all those who don’t share their militant ideology …to leave what they call the occupied Muslim lands from Spain to the Philippines…”
Am I losing my few remaining marbles, or do we have a US Sec. of Defense who is making policy based on ‘what terrorists might think’?! He’s afraid that “terrorists” will ORDER US?! He is afraid that they might tell us what to do?!!
Jesus, this is a new level of weirdness and lunacy.
I sincerely hope that every patriotic Republican in the Nutmeg State gets a non-stop audio blast of Rummy’s inept, convulted, and abjectly pathetic comments. Then I hope they’ll reflect on whether this kind of “we have to do X, so the bad guys don’t push us around” b.s. is really what they want running government.
TRex can’t get to CT fast enough, as far as I’m concerned. And I don’t give a damn if he shows up wearing 5-inch red spiked heels, a corset, a kilt, and sparkly bangles.
fran wants to know what Ned would do if elected. Okay let’s ask him!
http://nedlamont.com/content/315/why-am-i-running
Emphasis mine — and NED’s!
Kurt @ 152
Methinks Clinton has been newly endowed with steel, Daou balls gleaned from the tubes of the internets and polished to a sparkling shine by the power of the Lamont campaign.
I support Ned Lamont’s candidacy because fresh ideas and new blood are vital to the life of our democracy right now and because the people of Connecticut, not the superannuated fools on the Hill, have the right to determine their representation and they want change.
“Senator Lieberman, do you agree or disagree with Senator Clinton’s call for Secretary Rumsfeld’s resignation, and why? Thank you.”
Yoo Hoo, FDLer’s!!! Christy is trying to change the focus of this thread — why do you support NED LAMONT?
Christy, why not start a new thread with that question — my response could kick it off . . .
1. To Fran: if you have spent any time around here at all, you know what an impediment Joseph Lieberman is to the Democratic Party’s continuing to represent average Americans, and not the corporate elite who benefit from war and empire.
Until the Democratic Party can once again stand up to K Street and the military-industrial complex, it is simply a branch of the Republican Party, without the snarl and the ball-breaking tactics of the DeLays and the Frists.
Ned Lamont is the solvent that is melting the bond between the Republicans and their imperialist interests, which are hardly the interests of the average working American… and the establishment of the Democratic Party. This may be the most important race of the past 20 years, because Joe Lieberman is more than just a senator… he’s a powerful senior senator, who enables the neocon Republicans, and premeditately castrates the Democratic grassroots.
Again, if you’ve spent so much as five minutes around here… you know all this.
If you still feel that some sort of fictitious decorum and graciousness is the litmus test for a candidate, and not the issues that will determine the future survival of the country you studied in school, then why don’t you just go ahead and vote for Joe Lieberman. I’ll forego any comment on your smarts in doing so, and we can stop wasting our time with you, and just write you off as a lost vote. It only means the netroots will have to work just a scoche harder than they already have, in flipping one or two more “undecideds”, between now and Tuesday.
2. My apologies that I will not be able to join you up the road in CT… but if it makes you feel any better, the only registered Democrat I know in CT originally felt that “all politicians are the same”.
With a little education and bedside manner (and he is devoutly Jewish, like Joe, so try to appreciate the effort in wresting him away from the comfort zone of his identification with Joe!), I got him to see the treachery that Joe has wrought over the years, and that the slime he’d already absorbed about Ned, actually came from the Lieberman camp.
So… I gotcha ONE vote! And I’ll ride the SOB until Tuesday, I promise!
Best of luck. Jane, you’re one hell of an American (okay, the rest of you don’t suck, either! :-)
You’re right.
It’s just hard not to respond to the hypocrisy.
Ned Lamont: “Senator Lieberman if you won’t challenge this president on his failed agenda, I will.”
Fran if you really want to know what Lamont stands for, why don’t you go hear it from the horses mouth at http://www.nedlamont.com?
I am supporting him because I think he represents the kind of change that the Dem Party and by extension the country desperately needs!
*ilson at 150 — Actually they are green beans with some minced shallots, snipped chives and a touch of unsalted butter…but still pretty damn good. ;-)
Why Lamont? Big and little things. He’s genuine; he gets it, he listens; he cares that what we’re doing is hurting people, he’s willing to say that’s not okay and not hedge it; he’s not a jingoist and he’s not afraid to say when we screwed up and need to change; he sees the connection between bad decisions there and the unability to make good decisions here.
And there’s the intangible stuff that we can’t define but the folks here, from all over, look at this guy and see, Jeez, he’s real, and we’re ready to work our butts off.
You either see it or you don’t. This is not a debate.
What else do you need? On my way to Ct tomorrow.
Christy 169, can they come sit by me?
Has anybody sent the video of the *kiss float* to Colbert or Stewert???
It should be put on tonight .It’s perfect creative news for their shows.
We need to bury Joe. Ned needs to win in a landslide, so that Joe can retire like a statesman, and join some DC Lobbying group….
Oops this got posted twice, ignore or delete me please :)
I like Ned because his stands on issues are virtually identical to mine…with the obvious exception of his stance on Israel. Gotta beat the AIPAC outta the Dem party hehe.
I have openly and often criticised the Hillary…I don’t know what to make of her calling for Rummy to resign. She’s still in that misguided camp of “the Iraq war is just dandy, it was just incompetently managed”…while I’m in that reality based camp of “the Iraq war was a war of choice, waged by the Neocons for ideological purposes”.
Until Dem mainstream pols recognize that no amount of competent execution could justify that abortion of a war, we’re going to have to work to remove them from office.
lotus at 5:39, well done.
“minced shallots, snipped chives” ? in Indiana we use spring onions … ummm … good! (shades of Saturday morning!)
I support Lamont because general MarKOS told me to. I do what I am told.
Hooooray, scarecrow is going to CT.
Way to go!
Thanks, John C, but scarecrow’s 170 is even better. Made me holler out loud.
RevDeb @ 177
I’m going cause RevDeb told me to. Pass it on.
Mmmm baby green beans, garlic sauteed in olive oyl, a squeeze of fresh lemon, S&P – the Italian version.
Drinking some of Christy’s great lemonade tonight. Thanks for the instructions for the potion.
Actually it was great to hear Richard Wolff on KO at the end of the segment about Hillary’s come to Moses moment when she challenged Rummy. KO asked if Wolff thought that the Lamont campaign about the war was having an effect on Hillary and others. Wolff said yes.
That’s enough for me!
‘Ere, scarecrow!
MB at 180
I make every green veggie that way and I’m not even Italian.
I support Ned Lamont because as a CT voter I had been waiting for years for someone to challenge Lieberman, but nobody ever did. He was always far too conservative for my tastes. So about two weeks after Lamont announced his candidacy, I met with him and right off the bat, I liked him. I liked the people working with him, too.
That like became love during the debates. Damn, that’s the first time in ages I’ve heard a candidate say everything I believed in and valued without worrying about how it was going to play with moderates and independents. He simply spoke his mind without a freakin’ filter. I loved him at that point.
He is a breath of fresh air and he comes off as genuine as Mr. Smith and I hope he goes to Washington.
I support Ned Lamont because he respects the worth and dignity of every human being.
In the Iraq War, the United States commits a war of aggression, crimes against humanity, and war crimes.
Joe Lieberman goes out of his wizened way to cheerlead the Iraq War.
Joe conspires with the Bushites to continue the brutal, failed, illegal US occupation of Iraq.
Ned Lamont opposes Joe Lieberman.
Good enough for me.
al-Scooter — hey, I hear you, but I gotta say that it’s a lot easier to deal with the abstraction rather than the truth.
The truth is that the Dem Party is rife with DINO’s — people who like to think they are Dems, but consistently act like Republicans. We’ve got a hideous problem here locally because a single-issue problem that caused folks to turn on grassroots activists overnight, nearly upending all the work we’ve been doing for over a year to reenergize the party. The DINO’s who did this are very much internet-illiterate but DLC-friendly people — meaning, they’ve bought all the hype around the Clintons and their buds, belong to organizations that intensify the hype, but can’t be bothered with doing the real work required to create an active and highly-informed organization that votes.
And as long as the DLC gets away with their crap, these DINO’s down stream won’t catch a clue.
For all you FirePups who can’t make it to CT and are iffy about calling CT voters, here’s my request to you: Contact your local DFA organization through DFA-Link.com or through Meetup and ask what you can do to help with GOTV locally. Go to the DNC website and search for GOTV events nearby, or go to 100actions.com and find out what you can do today in your own neighborhood.
If there were more internet-literate, active folks at the grassroots locally, there’d be a better ratio of ‘Roots to DINO’s and a lot less chance of a Lieberman-type candidate getting elected to office — everywhere across this country. Think about it: there’s a Joe-nertia kind of candidate running for office in your backyard, against a fine Lamont-type candidate. Maybe they’re running for state legislature, maybe they’re running for dog catcher. What are you doing to make sure the right one gets the nomination on Tuesday?
And if you get a knock on your door this weekend, it might be me and my peeps, making sure the right one gets that nod. Be kind.
Underscore
Be gone
OK..pools done, plants watered
Who need a cocktail?
Christy Hardin Smith @
170
shit, y’all. and I still have an hour or two ’til dinner. *rumble*
It’s not just the war that pisses me off about Lieberman.
It’s not just his craven submission to Bushco.
It’s his utter disregard for the lives of ordinary Americans.
Ned Lamont says that he will stand up for women’s rights, including choice and contraception. Joe Lieberman has demonstrated that he gives fuck all about those rights, and a scorecard from NARAL or PP is not proof to the contrary. If anything, they are cover for him to shit on women’s rights, with their blessing, just so he can hand them a few measly crumbs when it doesn’t even matter (Alito, Plan B).
Joe Lieberman had the unmitigated gall to stand before this nation and side with the Republicans in the Schiavo matter, when it had been settled, time and time again.
Ned Lamont believes that medical decisions are a private matter between doctors and patients. Period.
And so do I.
RevDeb — I watched Hillary carefully and thoughtfully question Rummy — I too felt she’d learned the lesson of Lamont — Hillary knows she’s got to come clean on the Iraq War or her 08 hopes (if any) are toast … Thanks, Mr. Lamont !
Right ovah heah they’s a flowah needs waterin’, Hopie.
It’ll be so nice when Ned beats Joe. And Lieberman is reduced to his own reality. An insignificant little twit, emergent from the back-side of a gnat’s ass. Joey has little left in arsenal but insupportable pejorative volleys. I support Ned Lamont because he’s against the Bush War in the Middle East.
I so want to go to CT for Ned. GOTV is tons of fun. No money for it. Hats off to everyone who can go. Show Joe-nertia what people power is about!
lotus, John C — back atcha — would love to see ya’ll there too. Maybe we need to do that thread again where everyone complained about Las Vegas and why they didn’t schedule Yearly Kos in Connecticut. How shortsighted.
HopeSpringsATurtle @
168
HopeSAT, I read your
mindcomment!is it true Ned is going to be on MTP with that other individual? If so, I want him to figure out how to bring up the “I wasn’t ready for the debate b/c I was expecting the same Joe Lieberman who debated Dick Cheney. I’ve learned he’s tougher on Democrats than Republicans”
scarecrow,
will you always do what I tell you to do?
what power!
Plus, I had a moment while my haricot verts are cooking
Sharing the recipe with us Saturday CHS?
I am supporting Ned Lamont because he represents to me what a true Democrat is about.
He’s about raising people up when they need a hand.
He stands for equal rights and inclusion.
He stands on the side of the law and will uphold the Constitution, not shred it.
He makes me believe in the power of politics as force to help people that need it, not as a means to his own end.
He’s man of principles and action, not a cowardly wimp who hides from a paper mache float.
Rayne 187: great advice. Lots of important races all over the country. Just the ones I’m following, someone up-thread reminded us not to forget Madrid in New Mexico, and there’s the need to beat John Doolittle in California, and on and on.
The point is, there’s another “Ned” opportunity coming to your neighborhood, soon. These are just rallye nights for those coming events.
Christy — bright idea for a new thread . . .
All positive comments (no negativity allowed) as to why we support NED LAMONT, FDL, Jane, you, darkblack, and all of our favorites:
TESTIFY!!!
Why do you support NED LAMONT?
Why do you support FireDogLake.com?
Why do you support Jane Hamsher?
Why do you support DarkBlack?
Why do you support Christy Hardin Smith?
Why do you support TRex?
Why do you support Howie Klein?
Why do you support the Act Blue Candidates?
Why do you support the Democratic Party, other progressive blogs, and any other causes that serve the common good?
Speak from the heart — tell us what you believe, and why you support NED LAMONT, Jane Hamsher, and DarkBlack . . .
We ARE the Revolution . . .
scarecrow, I’d trade a year of my life to join y’all this weekend through Tuesday.
As is — well, allus out in the provinces will just gonna be there virtually.
Tuesday night, I’m gonna make me a pile of cheese & crackies and prosciutto & melon, and I’m gonna crack me open a split of Mumm’s, and I’m gonna celebrate with you ‘Dawgs!
Aah-OOOO!
Lotus at 192…I’m fixin’ ta git my watercan Missy Lotus.
Linda at 196…great minds….
-ck..Great Idea!
OT: Does anybody know why Sam Seder is on the block at AAR?
RevDeb @ 199
If Jane says it’s okay, yes. I assume she checks with Kobe.
“on the block”?
I support Ned Lamont because I want a strong voice in the Democratic Party that represents the values I hold dear, one who was elected by the people for that reason, to give voice to the profound discontent I feel at the direction and policies of this administration, and serve as an example to the country that progressive values can win elections.
I smell fear. HRC is eating her broccoli and realizing it’s full of vitamins. The Short Ride smackdown is leaving the station, and Hillary has never met an opportunity she didn’t like. However, she may be missing the point. NED IS THE MAN.
There is a huge leap of faith with Ned. I really have no idea how he will make out when he arrives in Washington as the guy who took down Lieberman. The Senate is a mean cored space. And I am as aware of his history and platforms as any –
But when I watch his adds and after I saw him speak, I support Ned Lamont because he strikes me as credible when he promises to be a real Democrat and not like Joe Lieberman.
Hil was good. I go back and forth about her. I wish she would quit flip-flopping. It makes me nervous.
Yeah, Sam has said a few times he may only have a month left at the station. He’s being a bit coy and it may be a salary negotiation issue (just guessing)…
It would be a real shame, he’s such a powerhouse voice for us. And personally he’s the only host at AAR I listen to religiously, so I will miss him.
Loty, loty, loty. That sounds delicious. May I join you? I may have to go de Crement!
HopeSpringsATurtle @ 210
ie the chopping block. Everyone seems convinced his days are numbered, there’s an email addy for supportive message on the show’s blog.
in Indiana we have 3 hot national targeted Congressional races which we expect to win. Unfortunately, the Democratic challengers are all “Evan Bayh Democrats” but they will all vote for Speaker Pelosi. Indianapolis is safely represented by the very progressive Julia Carson. (her GOP opponent has $367.48 in the bank) The counties surrounding here are covered by safe troglodytes Burton, Pence and Buyer.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITI…..lieberman/
from article: []But it’s important to remember that Lieberman’s problems with Democratic constituencies go back further. He has often taken positions at odds with his party’s base. For instance, he supported vouchers for public school students so they might attend other schools — a position public school teachers’ unions strongly oppose. This year, both Connecticut teachers’ unions have endorsed Lamont.
In the past, Lieberman has questioned the value of affirmative action. Ten years ago, he said: “Affirmative action is dividing us in ways its creators could never have intended.”
It’s not exactly a coincidence that prominent African-American politician Rep. Maxine Waters of California and the Rev. Al Sharpton are supporting Lamont.
And last year, he supported federal intervention in the case of Terri Schiavo, a brain-damaged woman at the center of a long legal battle over whether she could be taken off life support, thus aligning himself on that issue with religious conservatives. Schiavo’s husband is campaigning for Lamont, and those Democrats generally unhappy with the power of the “Religious Right” gained another reason to oppose the incumbent.
Then there’s lingering unhappiness over Lieberman’s decision in 2000 to run both for vice president and his Senate seat. Had Al Gore won the White House, Lieberman’s replacement would have been chosen by a Republican governor — costing Democrats control of the Senate and fueling the idea among some that Lieberman cared more about his career than his party.[]
I was impressed with HRC today. She was focused and direct in telling Rummy how bad he screwed up.
-ck- 201, I am so ready for that. Beautiful idea!
immanentize @ 213
I suspect Lieberman’s support amongst his colleagues is a half mile wide and half an inch deep: I read today that Kerry is chomping at the bit to campaign for Lamont, prolly a few others.
scarecrow @ 203
Doolittle’s in the crosshairs and Charlie Brown’s got him in his sights
Hope 212 -
God, can you imagine if Hillary was strong all the time on the issues that really matter to this country? She would be an unbeatable force and I’d march from here (L.A.) to Washington to stand by her side. Well, maybe I’d ride my bicycle…
I think janeane’s departure has put a different spin on the show. i like sam but my heart wouldn’t break if he left.
Why do we TESTIFY?
Because the Republican Wrong Wingers accuse us of lacking faith —
That is a LIE.
We have an abundance of FAITH — Faith in Humanity.
We have Faith in the Human Spirit —
We have Faith in the Goodness of the Human Heart —
Be it Secular, Sacred, or Profane.
That is why we Testify . . .
new thread !
Thanks Jenny ftB.
I like Seder
prosciutto & melon. Now that’s amore! As to the Mumm’s? As dry as I can get it.
Could it be that competence is in vogue again? Be still my heart!
meta, you and your de Crement come right ahead on — and bring all the Pups you find along the way and their fave pop too!
Jim -
I LOVE SAM. You’re welcome. :)
I like sam…he can stay. i just think has a janeane made a great, fiesty spirit that i will miss…
Jim at 222ish — that is his Democratic coleagues you speak of. What will McCain do? The other gang of fourteen, especially the dem members now turned paranoid? And, where exactly is Dodd (actually the asking of the question is a hopeful thing). But let us not expect the new junior Senator from CN to deliver much other than one progressive vote out of 100. That for me, is better than the current situation.
Good Lord, I am NEVER going to be able to catch up with all the comments since I left the office, a scant 4 hours ago…
I support Ned Lamont because I believe he cares. Anyone who volunteers to teach and mentor kids who might not otherwise have that kind of attention is someone who knows the future is in our kids. And I think when he works with these kids, and sees the hard road ahead for them, which, instead of being paved smoother, is being riddled with potholes due to the misplaced priorities of the current administration, it inspires him to action.
Between these kids and his own kids, he sees the tremendous promise they represent, and contrasts it with the insanity of continuing to send our young men and women into war zones on the basis of policies that have been failing almost from Day One.
Joe Lieberman has been a tire with a slow leak that has finally fallen flat, hampering the forward movement of the vehicle he is attached to. He is a flat tire that can no longer be patched up and put back on the car. I think Ned finds it enormously frustrating to see a clear path and a clear direction and realize that with the flat tire that is Joe Lieberman, CT would never get where it needs to go, and neither would the country.
Ned is a progressive liberal in the best sense of that term, and in keeping with where we are today. He is a man of action, a man who knows how to listen to people, a man who is not going to abandon Connecticut for months and years on end while he basks in an over-rated notion of his own glory.
I believe that Ned Lamont is for a lot of things, much more than he is just against Joe Lieberman.
He represents hope, which I think many of us are thirsty for.
Is Tuesday EVER going to get here? I feel like I’m waiting for Christmas and it’s STILL 5 days away… *g*
John from Sacto — thanks for the Charlie Brown update.
new thread
immanentize @ 235
Interesting to mention McCain… I think he’s the only Republican who woudl show up for JoMo. He is running as a quasi-independent, but he can’t afford to piss off the Religious Right, who think RGJoe is too choicey. I think Dodd has pledged to support the winner of the primary, hasn’t he?
immanentize — yes, only one vote, but his victory is a two vote swing on things that matter.
Just read MYDD: the Lieber youth need to change the color of their shirts from white to brown. What they are doing is nauseating.
kristinejoy @ 211
There’s no way I could improve on this eloquent statement. I registered in CT as a Dem for the 1972 Presidential election – have been a devoted and dedicated liberal to moderate party member ever since.
Lieberman left the core principles of the Dem party behind years and years ago and Dems in CT have been waiting for someone to challenge him since at least 2000 (selecting him for VP candidate was a mis-guided political calculation).
Lamont represents hope for Democrats of CT. When he is elected to the Senate in November, he will stand up and fight for the policies and principles of the Dem party: economic opportunity for all Americans, cooperation with the international community over issues like terrorism, poverty, aids and the environment. He’ll be an advocate ofr public education, science (stem cell research), civil rights, support of American’s constitutional rights – the list goes on.
I can’t tell you how proud I am to have Lamont running for Senator in my state.
Why do we TESTIFY to our FAITH in the Goodness of Humanity?
Because it is the perfect smackdown to the GOP slime merchants, who accuse us of racism.
As an added bonus, it turns the image lemons into lemonade — it opens the flood gates for everyone who reads FDL to TESTIFY, as to why they still have hope in their hearts.
It opens the floodgates for an overwhelming victory for NED LAMONT — when Ned Wins, WE WIN . . .
scarecrow @ 240
Good one, scarecrow!! Math actually is a strength of mine :~)
Why do I support Ned Lamont?
It comes down to a basic matter of trust.
I trust Ned Lamont to listen to the people of Connecticut and the people of this country (after all, we all will be paying his salary) and to represent what is best about America.
I trust Joe Lieberman to listen to the rich and the powerful, and do their bidding.
I trust Ned Lamont to hold the Bush administration accountable for the tragicly ill-conceived and mismanaged war in Iraq, and to provide leadership in bringing it to a timely and appropriate end.
I trust Joe Lieberman to back George W. Bush and the neocons and their stupid war, without limitation, and to offer no help whatsoever in bringing it to an end.
I trust Ned Lamont to recognize the importance of our constitutional system of checks and balances, and to provide backbone to the Congress in the struggle to regain its rightful place in that formula.
I trust Joe Lieberman to enable the Bush administration’s illegal war on our Constitution, always being there when Bush needs a hand or a shoulder to cry on, and letting the infernal unitary executive philosophy of government destroy what our founding fathers created and what thousands upon thousands of American service members have fought and died to defend.
I trust Ned Lamont to recognize the crucial role that the United States Supreme Court plays in our society, and to uphold his obligation to ensure that anyone who gets on that court can be trusted to uphold our Constitution. I trust Ned to oppose any nominee to the Court who does not meet that test, and to support a filibuster as long as needed to keep them from being confirmed.
I trust Joe Lieberman to treat future Supreme Court nominations–particularly those by the Bush administration–as opportunities to earn brownie points with the president by supporting. I trust Joe to try to pull a fast one on the American people and to have his cake and eat it too by helping to end filibusters of Supreme Court nominees who are unfit to serve, just as he did with Alito.
I trust Ned Lamont to faithfully use the powers of his office to stand firmly behind women’s rights, including the right of choice, and in doing so to be open and transparent as to where he stands.
I trust Joe Lieberman to sell himself as a friend of women and choice, while not only enabling appointments like Alito’s but also offering rape victims in need of emergency contraception a “short ride” to another hospital.
I trust Ned Lamont to breathe new life and vigor into the Democratic Party, helping it to rise to the challenge of digging the country out from under six years of horrible abuse at the hands of George W. Bush and the neocons, including Joe Lieberman. I trust Ned to be a leader of the national Democratic Party who will recruit and inspire other fresh and talented people to become candidates for public office.
I trust Joe Lieberman to be the king of the dead-enders, a stick in the mud of politics, a crony of lobbyists and Republicans who will fight to the bitter end to let the Democratic Party be destroyed rather than see its leadership go to people like Ned Lamont.
That’s just off the top of my head.
My turn. I’m not sure why you all are humoring Fran.
At the end of the day, if the people of CT vote for Lamont, then Lieberman should just step down – sure in the knowledge that his time, if it ever was, has passed.
The real issue is that Lieberman seems to think that he is indespensible – that some how the world will stop spinning if he is NOT in the senate, or the country will be in worse shape. Which can only mean one thing – its not about public policy, the future direction of this country, it’s about Joe’s self proclaimed right to be a senator from CT for life regardless of how he actually votes on issues. Last time I looked, there were no life peerages in this country – maybe I should recheck that though. Too long ago Joe forgot that he worked for the people of CT, NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. And, given the inane policies of TEAM LOSER and its failures, policies and failures that Lieberman fully supported and continues to support, I for one would vote for anyone to replace them and HIM, let alone a qualified candidate like Lamont.
You asked, rhetorically I assume, if it was worth destroying(interesting phrasing)* someone to win an election? The answer is, yes, if the stakes are high enough. But neither anyone here, nor Lamont, created Joe’s problems with the electorate, and, in fact, aren’t capable of “destroying” anyone – all we can do is try to get him unelected. Is Joe really that fragile? If so, he has no right to be an elected official. Is his identity so tied up with the trappings of the office that he really will be “destroyed” if he loses? If so, then that is prima facie evidence that he needs to go.
But, if he is “destroyed” he did it to himself. HIS choices – NOT ours; HIS choice to follow TEAM LOSER, not his constituents (or ours for that matter), and his choice to view his senate seat as a right, rather than a privilege the people of CT granted him.
That was the non-rude part.
It’s better as a visual, trust me.
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* I’m comfortable answering rhetorical question. And, interesting b/c you don’t state any reason other than being unelected that he is being “destroyed.” You may as well state that he should be re-elected b/c otherwise his family will be upset and his children will cry and be teased by their friends. I’ll live with myself when that happens.
Great comment, neuro…really highlights their differences.
I’m so there–I have accommodations waiting for me, how can I not? See you this weekend, Jane!
How about you stay away from Connecticut? Go find something else to do for the next week other than bringing your pathetic disaster machine any closer to Lamont.
You. Own. This.