If it's Sunday, it's a lot of the same idiots we see every Sunday, with the occasional sprinkling of a guest we want to see. You decide what we have in the mix today: (via WaPo)
FOX NEWS SUNDAY: Undersecretary of State R. Nicholas Burns ; L. Paul Bremer , former head of the Coalition Provisional Authority in Iraq; Steven A. Rosenberg , chief surgeon at the National Cancer Institute.THIS WEEK (ABC): Burns ; Israeli Ambassador Daniel Ayalon ; seven-time Tour de France winner Lance Armstrong .
FACE THE NATION (CBS): Lebanese Prime Minister Fouad Siniora ; Israeli Deputy Prime Minister Shimon Peres .
MEET THE PRESS (NBC): Israeli Ambassador to the United Nations Dan Gillerman ; Lebanese special envoy Nouhad Mahmoud .
LATE EDITION (CNN), 11 a.m.: Burns, Sens. Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) and Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.); Syrian cabinet minister Bouthaina Shaaban , and Israeli Tourism Minister Isaac Herzog .
I don't know about you guys, but the green rooms at Face the Nation and Meet the Press had better be two green rooms this morning. I'm just saying.
True story: when I was in college, I worked for the National Model United Nations Conference (and later for the Board of Directors for the UN-NGO that ran the NMUN). I worked on the conference staff for two years and ended up running the whole thing my Senior year. My first year on the staff, I ended up being put in charge of the diplomats reception that was held on the day that a large number of UN Ambassadors came to speak to the various committees at the conference. (It was a huge college conference, held in NYC every spring, with around 2800 to 3000 college kids and faculty members in attendance.)
I had to assign two staff members to the following duty: one each was assigned to the Israeli and the Palestinian representatives, and they were asked to rotate around the room with their assigned diplomat, to make certain that neither had to deal with making eye contact, and to be certain that there was no moment where they were in the same space at the same time. Because, at that point in time, neither was acknowledging the other's right to exist -- and in order to get them to agree to come and speak at the conference, we had to make special accomodations to avoid that sort of embarassing moment that might lead to, you know, a handshake or discussion or diplomacy...but, I digress.
The Israeli delegate to the UN ended up being called back to the mission right after his speech, and the Palestinian representative was then able to roam freely about the room, and the two staffers who had the assignments were bummed not to get a chance to rotate grown men around a room so they never had to make eye contact.
I tell you this little story as an illustration of how the human side of who we are sometimes gets in the way of acting like a grown-up and doing the thing that needs to be done. But true statesmen do the tough work.
Unfortunately, we seem to have a drought of true statesmen at the moment. Or, at least, the people who are trying to talk sense seem to consistently be dismissed by the current Administration as partisan critics (even when they have been staunch Republicans for the whole of their lives). Can't wait to see Nicholas Burns' response to the op-ed from Brent Scowcroft in this morning's WaPo. My favorite part of the Scowcroft missive is the last line: "Let us not shrink from the task." You just know he was thinking, "Please, don't let that chuckleheaded Junior screw this up, too," don't you?
(btw, before I forget, any of our Seattle readers have more information on the shooting there at a Jewish Center? Police are classifying it as a hate crime, according to this morning's papers -- that particular type of enhanced penalty case is tough to prove -- you have to show intent and motivation above and beyond just the crime itself, but actual evidence of racial or other bias and intent to act as a result of that bias -- so I'm guessing the cops have some substantial evidence to make that stick. Just wondering what readers are hearing on the local news on this.)
Let me know if anything good pops up on a show you are watching.
Today's bird photo is, of course, a bald eagle. This photo is simply stunning, and that raptor gaze of the eagle as it sits on its perch really captures that kick-ass attitude that they have up close. I found the picture on the Fresno-Chaffee Zoo website, and had to share it with you guys this morning.
Bald eagles are, thankfully, coming back from the brink, but they are still a highly protected species, and rightly so. There is a nesting pair that comes back each year to an island in the Ohio River in the Parkersburg, WV, area where I grew up. My dad and I used to take the binoculars and peek at them every year as they were building their huge platform of branches and vines and such -- never looked very comfortable, but the hatchlings always seemed pretty content.
Also, I found the mother lode of all birding information about birdwatching in the National Parks. After last Sunday's discussion, I thought this would be useful for anyone who is now planning a trip. To be honest, I had NO idea how many National Parks were near where I live. Clearly, our little family will be taking a few more road trips...
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Wow–the first comment?
I got the coveted zero!
Yay, BlueUU. :) Good morning!
Turd!
Christy,
I just wanted to share a comment about the “hate crime” but more on the point of what Mel Gibson said. The Fat Lady Sings said…
Christy!
Fox 61 local talking heads about CT Sen.
Blumenthal asked about fear of party alienating Lamont voters.
Divide party? Blumenthal dances and finesses.
Who’s Curry? He’s on ; maybe a reporter? Missed the first few min.
Last shot. Blumental looks for Dem victories in Nov.
Back to Gov. race after break.
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Love Actually! Leisure Guy!
Bill Curry ran for governor last time around against John Rowland. Used to work in the Clinton white house.
I find the most interesting name on the list of Sunday morning guests is Lance Armstrong. He and his agent have announced that Lance wants to cash in his celebrity and so he is being recast as an “entertainer”. Apparently that means that ABC, part of the Disney entertainment colossus, gives him one of very few precious slots on a Sunday news program.
I watched Lance for 30 seconds on “The ESPYs”, a sports award show on ABC’s sister network. To paraphrase Lloyd Bentsen: I know entertainers. Entertainers are my friends. And Lance, he is no entertainer.
What’s he going to talk about? The personal pain that comes with blood doping scandals? What a Mennonite rider feels at this time? The Defense of Marriage Act? Or perhaps the wars of the Middle East?
Thanks, ABC, for nothin’! (And don’t get me started on the multiple appearances of “Nick Riviera” Burns!)
Fox 61 back.
The Gov candidate Malloy cracking about if you want face time w/photogs you better get there early. (ie - Lamont is HOT!)
Then, (Fox) frames it as hurting the party. Just briefly.
It was Bill Curry. Anyone know who he is?
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Both guys (Malloy guy and DiStafano guy) are pressed about the impact Sen. race.
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Disagree about poll (watch next Quinnipiac; seem last had DiStafano 20 points up. Look for that to thighten up.)
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Accusations about negative tricks, push polling, mailings…Sam Gjaddensen?
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Too much inside baseball for me.
kirby -
Thanks.
Christy -
Another excellent bird photo. Made me shiver to view that this AM.
(Now, to actually read what you write…)
:~>
How about every Sunday morning CHS hosts & interviews on FDL a figure worthy of attention–make the news, make the others–those insipid sunday programs– quote you, fear you, emulate you, every single week? i loved the Soros session. so it may be that the form possibilities here are more flexible for in-depth, entertaining, and effective conversation.
Reading about the latest massacre in the Labanese village of Qana made me feel ashamed to be an American. My question for George Bush: Have we had enought killing yet? I’m glad the Lebanese PM told Condi to go screw herself.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5228224.stm
the Qana death toll is now 57 or greater … bodies are still being recovered from the 4-story building collapsed by Israeli attack …
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5228224.stm
Disproportionate !
I’ve checked around, and no other endorsements for the Senate primary this week. More typically, they will be next Sunday, but this campaign is nothing typical!
For those interested in reading up….
Stamford Advocate City of Stamford (Shays)
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/
New Haven Register (De Lauro)
http://www.nhregister.com
Connecticut Post Bridgeport (Shays)
http://www.connpost.com/
New London Day (Simmons)
http://www.theday.com/
Hartford Courant (Larsen)
http://www.courant.com
Danbury News Times (Johnson)
http://www.newstimes.com/opinion/
And, here is a piece from my hometown paper — one reporter spent the day with Lieberman, the reporter I know spent the day with Ned
http://tinyurl.com/zlu53
Lamont about halfway down the page.
Here’s Google News:
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China Daily
Trauma is their companion now
Hindu - 16 hours ago
BEIRUT: From a distance, the yellow and brown buildings on a hilltop have a majestic aura about them. Set amid pine trees on Beirut outskirts, they are part of a university campus. But on a closer look, it is found that the serenity is deceptive. …
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Rice returns to a more promising scenario DetNews.com
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‘20 children’ among Israeli raid dead Aljazeera.net
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Guardian Unlimited - Toronto Star - Daily News & Analysis - Euronews.net - all 1,172 related
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**What’s that DetNews.com headline talking about?**
That’s rhetorical. I’m not gonna click it to find out, but if Detroit folks are being fed that kind of junk on the front page of the Sunday paper, it makes me wonder who is REALLY ‘reporting’ like that. Such as various ‘disinformation/propoganda’ our tax dollors fund. And if so, why Detroit.
Just sayin’…
(tin-foil’s back in the kitchen)
Thanks kirby for those links.
Re: Bald Eagles - On my recent trip to Maine, I saw 6 bald eagles! Unfortunately, none were as close as the one in the posted picture. Four that I saw were In and around Moosehorn Nat Wildlife Refuge where they have nesting platforms for them - 2 mature, one immature but out of the nest, and one eaglet still nestbound. I shot this picture while waiting in the US Customs line to get back in to the US — it was pouring rain and the eagles were not close. The baby eagle in the nest was about 2-3 miles away, poking his head out of the nest.
The other eagles were near Cobscook Bay State Park. One, while sitting in a tree, was getting dive-bombed by and osprey. It was a sight to see.
The op-ed by Brent Scrowcroft is profoundly troubling, because in the past he has chided the Administration to recognize reality and reorient its priorities and objectives. As a former Bush I official, he had some credibility, and even the mostly war-like MSM could report his views without seeming like wimps. Not this time.
Scrowcroft is now shilling for Bush II’s policy of continuing the violence in Lebanon until there is a global solution for the entire Middle East mess. He doesn’t say that explicitly; these warmongers seldom do. But there is no mention in his op-ed of what this means to in terms of the continue killing of the Israeli or Lebanese people, the destruction of infrastructure of Lebanon, the threat to the stability and credibility of the Lebanese government, and the ongoing trashing of the prestige, honor of the American government while this global condition is being negotiated. Not once does Scrowcroft ask, “how will the American tolerance of continuing killing and destruction put any of the key parties — Israel, Lebanon, the US, etc — in a better position to work towards a global solution?
I am still looking for a single prominent US official that will simply say, “the number one priorty for the region is to stop the killing. Stop it now. Stop it without conditions. Stop it.” Then the strategists can write all the op-eds they want and we can all argue endlessly about what the elements of a global solution might be.
In the meantime, I’m sick of reading/listening to people who think that it’s okay or even necessary for the killing to continue. That is madness, and the people who advocate are insane.
End of today’s sermon. Please rise and turn to hymn number ___, “A Mighty Fortress is our God,” followed by hymn number ___, “Onward Christian Soldiers.”
VALLEY GIRL!
Mornin’ Firebirds,
thanks so much for the National Parks Link Christy - can’t wait to dive in
NYT endorsing Lamont - goodness me - anyone able to gauge the effects of Courant’s endorsement of Liebushman ?
Before I read the thread, I think I saw a bald eagle here in Minnesota but not in an isolated area, in the farmland between one very busy small town and mine (about 10 miles).
This road between towns is a very busy one with many trucks. There are several small horse farms with 2-3 ponds surrounding and a dead tree at the edge of one pond. And sitting at the top of the tree was a huge black bird with a very white head. Never saw him fly, but it was very early (7:00 a.m) and he was probably looking for breakfast. Gave my heart a boost I tell ya.
Now back to the thread.
Thank you ilson for the links.
moderators and typo fairies: please substitue “explicitly” for “implicitly” in my #20. Other typos are okay because the meaning is obvious. Thanks.
There was an action packed bald eagle saga that occurred in the Washington D.C. area a few months ago. The female of a nesting pair of eagles was attacked and seriously injured by another female eagle. Environmentalists took her to be patched up and rehabilitated in Delaware. She was later released and she found her own way back to her nest on the Potomac. Here’s one of many articles about it:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....01593.html
PS - my #20 is in moderation :(
Good Morning.
Puulllleeease Timmeh, bring it this week, like you did last week.
twolf1, hit F5
I’m reading your comment at 6:12 #20.
Christy - thank you very much for the link you provided to the mother lode of birding information about birdwatching in the National Parks. I will send it to friends and members of my family who are interested in birding.
For anyone interested, this National Park Service link will provide more information about the location of national parks near you: http://www.nps.gov/application.....search.cfm
Per CNN on the recent Israeli airstrike that killed 50 civilians, Condi “I’m saving myself for Georgie” Rice in Tel Aviv has been told by the Lebanese that “she is not welcome” to travel to Beirut.
Apparently, the Cheney Admin can never, ever see the “consequences”. Just always wants to kick ass and take names.
I wonder if Wikipedia will have to redefine “diplomacy”?
I love typo fairies. Thank you.
Greetin’s!
Another good day to run your eyes down
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/global
(don’t miss the Polish twins next to Ned — criminey!)
http://www.guardian.co.uk
http://www.independent.co.uk
http://www.telegraph.co.uk
http://www.dailymail.co.uk
Thank scarecrow, profoundly troubling.
As emptywheel has taught me, the WH and the neocons are fighting a 4G war with a 3G mindset.
First Generation: War on Land
Second Generation: War on Land and Sea
Third Generation: War on Land, Sea, and Air.
US and Israel have military supremacy on land, sea, and air. Why aren’t they “winning?”
This is a 4G war. The battle for hearts and minds matters too and the Israeli’s and the WH are losing it more profoundly everyday. The battle for hearts and minds matters, ask George Washinton, ask Ho Chi Minh and many many others.
This is the Bush Terrorist Creation Project and it is succeeding.
If the government in Lebanon falls, and everyday Israeli attacks continue, that becomes more likely, Israel, the Middle East, and the World, becomes conspicuously less stable.
in this one airstrike in Qana, Israel killed more children than all the Israeli (both military and civilian) citizens killed so far …
tit for tat — game’s over, Jerusalem!
Rice - “But would you really have wanted to have a cup of coffee in Lebanon before they had mass graves? Excuse me, I have to go practice scales.”
Baldies in Texas -
Texas is an anthropologist’s wet dream wrt our fabled tribalism -
a decades old colony of eagles were being harassed and shot at by local idiots several years back - an enterprising rookie Park Ranger started advising all visitors to make sure they caught a glimpse of “The Lake Buchanan Eagles” everytime she admitted visitors to the area - sure enough, halfway through her first season, she regularly heard calls of “Have you seen our eagles yet ?” coming from proud locals - the colony has sinced increased 30% in size
In Connecticut, people are pretty parochial when it comes to newspapers. The Courant is the state’s largest paper, but does a lousy job outside the Hartford metro area, so we stopped our subscription a few years ago. We go with the local paper, the NY Daily News (for sports), and USAToday — delivered every AM.
The NYTimes is most effective in the SW corner of the state — Fairfield County — aks the “gold coast”. Fairfield is really the way-north Bronx — the way southern Maine is way-north Boston. Virtually all media in Fairfield is from NYC. Thus, very $$$ to advertise there v. the CT stations. But, Ned and Lieberman are both from there.
Here in the middle of the state, I don’t know anyone who reads the Times daily. Probably split half and half on the Sunday Times or the Sunday Boston Globe. Half the state identifies with NYC (the Yankee fans) and the other half identifies with Boston (Red Sox). In fact, the CT river, which bisects the state is the dividing line for the “local market” designation for blackout rules on TV, and which cable stations we get.
West it’s NY, East it’s Boston.
We are also the microcosm of the gap between rich and poor in the US — Fairfield has incredibly wealthy people and home prices off the charts, while our inner cities of Hartford, New Haven and Bridgeport have the poorest of the poor.
And, that’s your Connecticut backgrounder for Sunday.
Brent Scowcroft says:”This latest in a seemingly endless series of conflagrations in the region just may present a unique opportunity to change the situation in the Middle East for the better for all time. Let us not shrink from the task.”
This is a variation on the old Chinese proverb, “In every crisis there is also opportunity.” Like most proverbs, this only tells one side of the story and the worst of it is that it finds room for exculpating all the mistakes that the US has made so far.
It is somewhat like driving recklessly until you end up totalling the car and saying brightly, “Oh good, now we will find out if my insurance policy is any good, and next time I will drive more carefully.”
Yes, in crisis there is opportunity, but why have the crisis in the first place?
Ha’aretz http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/744043.html
John Casper — perhaps the problem is that we can’t stop thinking of solutions that are defined in war terms. It’s as though war, which some used to define as the last resort when all else failed, has become the first, preferred option.
The MSM pundits once discussed our surprise at 9/11 as a “lack of imagination.” We couldn’t imagine people deliberately killing themselves and thousands of innocents, by flying airplanes into large buildings. It seems that what is happening in Lebanon/Gaza is a spectacular lack of imagination, in which the parties on all sides, and those of us who arm them and sanction their actions, can’t imagine any other solutions.
*ilson - someone must have bribed the Gods of Purgatory with prayers or pizza. I finally had one go through. YAY.
kirby,
thanks for the background - asked this the other day - apparently Greenwich is now world headquarters for hedge funds - have any of those guys endorsed either candidate ?
Good morning all. Shall tip my toe in the water here again as I did yesterday and throw out a thought that came to mind as I read Christy’s words this morning. I loved the story about having to “babysit” the Israeli and Palestinian reps and why; very telling. Occured to me that there is such a lack with this administration of any human “feel”. In the type of horsemanship I practice, the concept of “feel” between the horse and human is the foundation. I’ve fine-tuned mine over the years with these animals, and the the same can be said with my human relationships; all to the good.
It is really a “physical” cringe reaction to Bush et. al. that I have. Their phoniness and to me obvious manipulative techniques (obvious to any person operating from “feel” whether they know they are doing that or not. You all are FULL of it…feel that is :), their lack of true empathy or compassion, come across to me acutely anytime I see or read “anything” from them in the media.
Conversely, the words of Jane and Christy and the majority here; a Ned Lamont, a Fitz….say watching a video of Martin Luther King speak with passion and honesty - oozes for me a “feel” of integrity; of honest good intention and caring.
I ramble, but this country needs to find a leader with “feel” again.
your Pope has called for an immediate ceasefire “for the love of God”
Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli SOLDIERS. According to Israel, that’s what started this.
The US has kidnapped thousands of CIVILLIANS, put them in secret prisons and tortured them. Bush, however, says it’s legal when we kidnap, because it’s authorized by the AUMF,and we call it “extreme rendition.”
Jewish Voice for Peace
From their ad in THE NATION:
“…But Israel’s response, an explosion of violence and collective punishment directed against airports, bridges, and populated neighorhoods of Lebanon is an even greater crime. And now Lebanon like Gaza is on the verge of a human disaster.
In the face of so much violence and suffering the United States vetoes of UN Security Council Resolutions calling for a cease fire are immoral and irresponsible….”
Mary — I had noticed with some satisfaction seeing your first comment in here earlier today.
Mary had computer gremlins bedevilling her commenting yesterday — Retro Satanas !
Horsewoman — wonderful insight.
kirby — thanks for Ct. background.
Mary — if you ever “moderate” yourself, we will all be the worse for it. Let it flow, because, as Horsewoman says, you “feel” it.
Just by way of explanation, neocons in the WH are fighting Hitler in the 1930’s, and especially the appeasement policies of Neville Chamberlain.
Lance Bloody Armstrong. Has ESPN not kissed his spandex enough lately?
Sorry, but I’m not a huge Armstrong fan. He and those other overgrown tykes on trikes on the US team were getting millions from their USPS endorsement, and the USPS wouldn’t even meet with our union to negotiate our damned contract. I did the math for what Bangle Lancer’s team was getting from that endorsement, and divided it by # of postal workers–including management. Everyone in the damned USPS could have gotten a .20/hr pay raise. That adds up awfully fast…
John — better to fight Hitler over there than having to fight him on the streets of Indianapolis !
NE Minn’s bald eagle population made a huge comeback starting around 15 years ago, no thanks to the John Stossel jerks of the world. Until then, it was big news for locals to be able to talk about a bald eagle sighting. Today I would not be embellishing when I say that we are not surprised to see them several times a week only about 3 mi from home, esp when there is roadkill. That’s quite a picnic gathering of eagles, ravens & sometimes turkey buzzards. Their gigantic nests are awesome to see on the very top of the tall white pines, their preferred nesting tree.
Last week driving to work, I had to break for a blue heron. Thank goodness I saw it in time…I would have felt awful if I had hit it..gorgeous bird.
christy- great post as usual
thanks for talking about the seatle hate crime. It send shivers through when i first read about it. But it is a definite reality in todays world.
I can remember distincly the day rabin and arafat shook hands and the look on rabin’s face. Unfortunately in this crisis iIRC olmert and the leb PM shook hand and were laughing a week before the crisis began. so much for diplomatic relationship there. But i believe we (US) still must try harder.
Also FWIW though i love Matt O. post on the corruption in war profiteering, the link he used for pictures came from a truly hateful and prejudice website that I would rather not have visited without being warned.
Good morning everyone, and welcome back Horsewoman. Let me second your thoughts about the connection with horse and person and the need to find that common ground. When I was riding saddle seat gaited, the walk for some of these horses was impossible. We comproimised to the most animated ‘walk’ that made us both very happy. With just a soft touch of hands they knew I was there for balance, and they pranced like the champion horses they were.
Finding the balance for these thugs in office is impossible. They know one way only — the way of the bully. If this world were a horse and bush was the rider, they would beat the horse first, starve it for a month, then claim when they rode and the horse did nothing, they were great riders.
These are evil people of the first magnitude. Will America wake up in time? we will soon find out.
cbl. 42: “..apparently Greenwich is now world headquarters for hedge funds - have any of those guys endorsed either candidate ?”
Interesting question. Off the top of my head, I think hedge fund managergs are mostly apolitical. Think about it: the idea of a hedge fund is that you can make money in any kind of market, bull or bear. So they operate outside of the winds of political change. They don’t give a fuck so long as they rake in their management fees, which can run into the megamillions per manager every year.
However, I do believe Joe voted for the tax giveaway (like many Dems), so he may have an edge with them here.
As Peterson writes, ALL field mark.
I’m glad I can post again, but as long as I can read I’m fine. What you and JohnC have written above - it seems those huge issues are not really even surfacing in the ‘who’s right, who’s wrong’ context of Bush’s Make Them Knuckle Under concept of diplomacy. At least RIce gets to wear a pretty red dress, so she’s happy.
Horsewoman - dressage? No surprise that apparently GWB isn’t good with and doesn’t like horses, is it?
I suppose Qana is all part of the Israeli strategy to obtain return of 2 soldiers. The return of the soldiers IS the main objective…..isn’t it???
Ghostman
Christy
Yeah, but isn’t Friedman gonna be on there too? I mean, I’m sure he’ll just say a few words to both of them and he’ll be having them singing “we are the world” in no time.
Oh I’m sorry, it’s Friedman. Six months…
And one more thought; the beautiful picture of the bald eagle Christy ~ thank you for that this morning. I live 20 minutes from Lake Shasta in No. California. Often when we are on the Lake, we see the beautiful Osprey; there are some nests that, since we’ve been coming here for many years prior to moving to the area, I have watched consistently for over 20 years now…they are magnificent birds also.
But every once and a while over the Lake, we are blessed with seeing a bald eagle. And for the first time a few months ago, as I was playing with one of my horses in the pasture, I looked up to see one fly right over our property. Hadn’t happened before, hasn’t happened since. But I remember standing there for quite a while in complete awe of what I had just seen…
As all this sadness engulfs the world, it is moments like that - reminders that there is something more at work in the world - that gives me hope. And if we all just are destined as a human race to stupidly erase ourselves from the planet and start and try all over again; I find great comfort in thinking that in the end, Mother Nature, her beauty and her creatures ~ will endure. May we humans, as hopefully something ultimately eternal and destined to return in some form, learn from that; and bring the lesson back with us for the next try……………..
Fox talking head roundtable is neocon gibberish w/sprinkles of sanity thrown in from Juan Williams. But, you already knew that.
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I’m gonna devote my time to more worthwhile pursuits. Like catchinng up reading this thread. (Leaving ‘mute’ off in case they mention CT Sen.)
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Just heard Billy the K. say, “It’s a long war.”
(stop me before I lose my b’fast.)
lord. I used to think M.Liasson was kinda/sorta a little hottie. (Though I do notice she is measurably taller than Billy/K.) Sadly, I now envision her baying, “…and your little dog, TOO!”
Christy:
I had a similar experience as the Ass’t Exec Dir and later Secretary General of the Cleveland Nat’l Model UN Conf. [BTW, WE considered ourselves “National,” you were New York ;-) ]
This was back in the mid 80’s, but our biggest delegate problem was keeping the Albainians in their cage.
One thing I noted was that the student diplomats treated each other (Israel and Palestinians included) with much more respect than their real counterparts — and seemed to take their job more responsibly and were more productive as well.
Horsewoman!
Thanks for all the excellent comments and links. I think I’ll just read because I got nothin, am speechless with rage at the evil being done in my name. And that’s not even counting Iraq.
The Bush Administration was seriously ripped a new one by everyone on the ABC This Week panel, with George Bush leading the way.
Claire Shippman noted (almost like a liberal blogger) that the Bush Administration always seems to be “surprised” by one thing or another.
“the link he used for pictures came from a truly hateful and prejudice website that I would rather not have visited without being warned.”
lo, I apologize. I missed that and I suspect everyone else did too.
Thanks for bringing it to our attention, so as a community, we can do better the next time.
And the killing just keeps on going. And we call ourselves a Christian nation? Whither hides the outrage?
Aw, Inouye. I understand Biden and Salazar, but why are you coming to CT?
It’s interesting to watch how the MSM (and we) discuss two different topics: (1)the arming of Hezbollah and the actions of its more militant wing and (2) the arming of Sadr’s militia and it’s actions within Iraq. Both are stongly Shiite parts of their respective governments, and both are viewed here as serious threats to the security and authority of the central government.
As far as I know, the Lebanese example do not systematically go through mixed neighborhoods killing and conducting “sectarian cleansing.” Sadr’s guys apparently do. In Iraq, the US policy is to support the central government; in Lebanon, the policy is to allow our Iraeli surrogates to destroy the country’s infrastructure and undermine the authority of the central government. Why?
You’d think even the right-wing neocons would see the disparity, even if you take their “global” solution (global war against Islam) at face value.
On CNN/Paula Zahn the other night, a guy who advocated an immediate ceasefire was debating a neocon shilling for continued Israeli attacks in Lebanon and expanding into Syria, etc. The ceasefire guy asked, “How many civilians are you willing to kill to achieve your objective?” Zahn tried to redirect this obviously relevant question, and the neocon just laughed. But the ceasefire guy persisted, and asked it again, right over Zahn, and this time, the neocon guy said, “As many as it takes . . .” There it is.
Zahn was speechless, and then they went to a commercial before that line of thought could sink in. Rolaids, anyone?
the Qana bombing was on a Sunday morning — but at least the Holy Father called for an immediate ceasefire …
Oh GrandmaJ ~ yes, yes…that is exactly what it is all about; that ability to sense what is needed - either from a horse, or a human - and then give back appropriately; not from a selfish desire, but from a place of seeking partnership…Ned Lamont seems to me an lovely example of a politician doing just that.
And it sounds like you were/are ~ in mind and practice ~ a wonderful partner to the horse.
And Mary - dressage “can” be an example of feel with a horse, but like anything in life, ultimately depends on the human and if they are approaching the practice of dressage with a horse with any “feel” for the animal. In the horse world, over many years, I’ve learned that there are people in it for their egos - and then there are people in it for the relationship and partnership to be found to the good of both horse and human.
And there I’ve walked into another analogy for politicians I suppose LOL!
Biden coming to CT to hump for Holy Joe? did somebody mail him an updated train schedule?
So they operate outside of the winds of political change.
ojs, you may be right, because there is a lot I don’t know about hedge funds.
I suspect, however, they have to know in which direction those winds are most likely to blow in order to place their bets.
If the two mile wide and very shallow narrows of the Straits of Hormuz close, oil will jump and a lot and I suspect a lot of hedge funds will lose money.JMO.
they might want to consider moving the entire state of Israel to Wyoming. Just the regular people. Leave the politicians and military leaders. Then have Disney come in and build a theme park. They can replicate all the bliblical sites . They can call it “The Holy Land.” Dick Cheney can be the CEO after he gets out of jail.
Israel is not exactly blameless; Palestinian papers haved noted this interesting, and overlooked, sequence of events:
*On June 9th, Israel shelled a beach in Beit Lahiya killing 8 civilians and injuring 32. At the site of the killing, Human Rights Watch found evidence of a 155mm artillery shell consistent with those fired from an Israeli M-109 Self-Propelled Artillery.
* On June 13th, Israeli aircraft fired missiles at a van in an extrajudicial killing of two Palestinians in Gaza City. A second barrage of missiles fired shortly afterward killed nine Palestinian bystanders.
* On June 20th, Israeli aircraft fired at least one missile at a car in an extrajudicial killing attempt on a road between Jabalya and Gaza City. The missile missed its intended target and killed three Palestinian children and wounded 15.
But I guess this lapsed Jew is being “anti-semitic” in pointing that out…
MEET THE PRESS update.
Russert shows film of Lebanese attacking, trashing UN headquarters in Beirut.
Richard Engel, “Poor can’t leave, that is why they were in the apartment building that was destroyed.”
Re: DetNews.com upthread — Detroit News historically has been the right-wing rag in the Motor City (Detroit Free Press has been the better of the two papers under Knight-Ridder ownership, but that may be changing now that Gannett owns the Freep; ownership changes at both DetNews and Freep last fall may not yet have resulted in a change of editorial practices). And yes, I’m not surprised that the DetNews is being used to propagandize this mess since many of the folks in Dearborn have family impacted by this horror in Lebanon. Amazing, what this administration has done on behalf of a minority political faction with an excess of influence in this country; where once Dearborn might have voted for Bush, they will surely not vote for his minions this year.
I wonder what former Senator/former Energy Secretary Spencer Abraham (MI-R) is thinking these days about this administration?
Can we agree that “extra-judicial killings” aren’t an effective way to spead democracy?
I’ve been wondering why these folks don’t make use of the International Criminal Court to sort out their business.
lina — we already have a place analogous to that. It’s called Utah.
Or, if you prefer, many typical American city, like one in Delaware. Did you see that NYT article on Friday, talking about the Jewish family in a predominantly Christian Delaware town, that tried, peacefully, respectfully, but unsuccesfully to convince the local school board to stop having classes, assemblies, commencements, etc from being so overtly “Christian,” and to refrain from having preachers give prayers saying “Jesus is the only way …” Her family was forced to move; her kids were tormented and threatened at school, and on and on. I’ve lost the link.
Yeah, that’s right, we got pool halls right here in River City. We’ve got lots to teach the people in the Middle East about tolerance and getting along.
Even if you ignored the human costs, I don’t see how Israel is going to accomplish their goal with a bombing campaign - I know nothing about military campaings, but if the goal is to address all the rockets and Hezbollah - those are small movables as targets; not like taking out a nuclear reactor or power plant. So, how does that happen without guys on the ground, to take, search and sanitize the ground then hold and go on?
It almost seems as if they were thinking that taking out the airport early meant there would be some relatively speedy “dry up” on the rockets? I can’t figure it out, even if it were all without human costs and not creating more enemies every day. Rice giving it “time” is adding blood to the mix and waiting for it to set, like concrete.
lo - I think we are all worried about the shooting; hoping and praying that we don’t have more inflamed nutcases with violent responses. Take care.
Good line from the Israeli Ambassador to the UN on MtP: “Terrorism will not end until the terrorists learn to love their children more than they hate us.” The question is — how to get there. That seems to be the sticking point, and has been, for the last 60 plus years…SIGH
Tim Russert is being amazingly aggressive (truthful) with the Israeli Ambassador … ’bout damn time!
LJ/Aquaria — does it look to you like Olmert’s administration was looking to pick a fight in June?
It sure does to me. They had an agenda that has not been at all obvious to this administration.
oh Christie! If only those Americans loved their own children instead of fighting Japan (or Germany)
Christy — The Israeli official has it backwards. Terrorism will not end until we learn to love their children as much as we love our own.
*ilson — yep, I know. Hence, the SIGH.
Scarecrow nailed it — terrorism wont stop until we love their children like we love our own !
christy flashback to the 80’s- didn’t sting have a song about
“I hope the russians love their children too”
lo at 87 — yep. it’s called “The Russians.” It is a fantastic snapshot of a response to Reagan’s policies and the tensions between the US and the USSR at their height. Great song. (Of course, it’s Sting, so I’m a bit biased…*g*)
Wow, you guys really like to mix it up over here. We Eschatonians lost Eli to y’all a while back I understand. We miss him. Your comment section is a beauty compared to the hell-o-scan we’re used to. You probably don’t have some of the nastier trolls either…damn! This is just a really nice corner of the blogosphere over here. *Sigh*
(Spring in step now noticeably deminished, our hero trudges back to his companions in the seedier portions of town.)
Christy, before I finish catching up with this thread, I wanna tell you about our baldies here in New Smyrna Beach.
For several years now, a nesting pair had made their home in a tall pine behind the town’s oldest drive-in restaurant on US 1 — well inside the city limits, this is. In fact, it’s just 3-4 blocks east of our golf course, so I see a lot of them year around. Usually they’re on the wing when we spot one or both (”Eagle! 4 o’clock high!”), but often we catch them taking breaks on tree limbs, and once — best yet — both Mr. and Mrs. were using the pond on #5 as a bird bath! Needless to add, that slowed play to a dead stop.
Did you realize they’re good singers? I swear. Whenever we hear an especially strong, pretty song, we scan the nearby pinetops, and yepper — “Iggle! 7 o’clock low!”
Christy:
But some of these people feel that protecting their children requires hating Israel, or hating us.
It’s really not as simple as that, because it places all responsibility for change on communties of oppressed people suffereing under state sponsored violence, even as that violence kills or starves their children.
Yes, Palestinians and the communities of southern Lebanon that support Hezbollah will need to do more to build their own civil societies to create futures for their children, but at the same time, we in the West need to change as well.
I know you know all this, but I’m just not as impressed with that quote as you are. It takes us and the Israelis off the hook, externalizing all responsibility. Israel does that well and plays to that same defensive instinct in us with virtuoso skill. But that still does not make it right.
catalexis at 89 — Hey, don’t be calling Duncan’s digs seedy. *g* Who wouldn’t love cat blogging Friday’s with those beauties? (Let alone the incisive wit…Duncan’s, not the kitties’…)
Forgive the length:
New York Times endorses Ned!
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/07.....0sun1.html
Editorial
A Senate Race in Connecticut
Published: July 30, 2006
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Well the Israeli’s have already ratcheted down their demands from the start of the war, from “Hezbollah will be wiped out,” to “Hezbollah doesn’t have to disarm” for a ceasefire. Hezbollah was never interested in war as they stated, they only wanted a possible prisoner exchange. Hezbollah is playing with a very cool head, too. This thing will peter out shortly, barring some idiot (like Bush) doing something stupid to throw a wrench in the works.
Much more interesting in my mind, is how the power aligns afterwards. Iran has been dramatically strengthened, Venezuela is becoming a center of opposition to America (Russia signed a weapons deal with them last week), China is becoming the next world power, and shrewdly staying out of all of these things.
(Oh and GrandmaJ, saw in an EPU’d thread that you loved old Japanese monster movies. If you’d like to see a modern version of the old theme, check out Akira. Tokyo gets destroyed more than once in it! hehe)
‘Timmy come lately’. Too bad this guy didn’t come to his senses a whole lot earlier. Not that he has come to his senses. Better late than never? Well… perhaps. Trouble is, a lot of children have perished, many from horrible, slow, and terrifying deaths during the interim. Russert has much blood on his hands, as does Biden, Clinton and Lieberman. Another bloody axis of opportunists.
catalexis — this place is run by two ladies — we try to keep this blog civilized and decent (whatever the fuck that means)
Pach at 91 — I was trying to point out that it is an effective messaging line in terms of American audience consumption — not that it was correct. I should have been more clear in my comment.
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/744061.html
Pat Lang has this article linked on his blog. It’s worth a read.
“Israel is sinking into a strident, nationalistic atmosphere and darkness is beginning to cover everything. The brakes we still had are eroding, the insensitivity and blindness that characterized Israeli society in recent years is intensifying. The home front is cut in half: the north suffers and the center is serene. But both have been taken over by tones of jingoism, ruthlessness and vengeance, and the voices of extremism that previously characterized the camp’s margins are now expressing its heart. The left has once again lost its way, wrapped in silence or ‘admitting mistakes.’ Israel is exposing a unified, nationalistic face.”