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		<title>By: *ilson46201</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214977</link>
		<dc:creator>*ilson46201</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:15:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dear Lyra — now that you have lectured us mere ignorant peasants, spend a minute of your precious time and scroll through the 200 comments above and see if we are all that shallow and genial to the point of blandness about the kerfuffle in the MidEast.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Your barely concealed arrogance and hauteur makes no friends or allies.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Lyra — now that you have lectured us mere ignorant peasants, spend a minute of your precious time and scroll through the 200 comments above and see if we are all that shallow and genial to the point of blandness about the kerfuffle in the MidEast.</p>
<p>Your barely concealed arrogance and hauteur makes no friends or allies.</p>
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		<title>By: Lyra</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214976</link>
		<dc:creator>Lyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 08:56:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Like Jean, I’ve also been troubled by the lack of analysis and commentary here, in the posts if not necessarily the comments, relating to the massive and continuing destruction of Lebanon by Israel. In the last week or so, if it’s mentioned at all it usually takes the form of one item (stated very neutrally as “the conflict between Israel and Lebanon”) on a list of many, with no futher comment. Maybe a heads-up to a Billmon post, who I agree is outstanding on this and other isssues, but that’s about it. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While BarbaraB makes a valid point about the limitations of any given blog, it seems to me that what is happening now in Lebanon demands attention, and action, from American political activists, especially when the Bush administration rushes armaments and jet fuel to Israel so it can keep killing and, alone of all the world’s nations (except Israel and Great Britain, of course) refuses to call for an immediate ceasefire, and Congress makes a big show of passing resolutions essentially giving Israel a blank check to commit atrocities in the name of “self-defense.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;It’s ironic, too, on at least two counts: first, Christy’s post seems to welcome new voices to the conversation, yet when a first-time commenter joins in, she is immediately put down by others in ths “welcoming” community–in at least one case, apparently, (comment 37) with such hostility that Christy saw fit to intervene.  Second, Jane Hamsher, quite rightly, takes the media to task for obsessing on what Ned had for dinner while ignoring “Iraq in flames”–even as FDL largely ignores Lebanon in flames. &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;If people acted, it could be stopped. But please don’t let Lebanon impose on your “gemutlichkeit.”&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like Jean, I’ve also been troubled by the lack of analysis and commentary here, in the posts if not necessarily the comments, relating to the massive and continuing destruction of Lebanon by Israel. In the last week or so, if it’s mentioned at all it usually takes the form of one item (stated very neutrally as “the conflict between Israel and Lebanon”) on a list of many, with no futher comment. Maybe a heads-up to a Billmon post, who I agree is outstanding on this and other isssues, but that’s about it. </p>
<p>While BarbaraB makes a valid point about the limitations of any given blog, it seems to me that what is happening now in Lebanon demands attention, and action, from American political activists, especially when the Bush administration rushes armaments and jet fuel to Israel so it can keep killing and, alone of all the world’s nations (except Israel and Great Britain, of course) refuses to call for an immediate ceasefire, and Congress makes a big show of passing resolutions essentially giving Israel a blank check to commit atrocities in the name of “self-defense.”</p>
<p>It’s ironic, too, on at least two counts: first, Christy’s post seems to welcome new voices to the conversation, yet when a first-time commenter joins in, she is immediately put down by others in ths “welcoming” community–in at least one case, apparently, (comment 37) with such hostility that Christy saw fit to intervene.  Second, Jane Hamsher, quite rightly, takes the media to task for obsessing on what Ned had for dinner while ignoring “Iraq in flames”–even as FDL largely ignores Lebanon in flames. </p>
<p>If people acted, it could be stopped. But please don’t let Lebanon impose on your “gemutlichkeit.”</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214251</link>
		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I’m currently reading “War Made Easy,” by Norman Solomon.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;We’ve been hearing that the Bush Administration’s rejection of a cease fire in Lebanon is based on a desire for an “enduring peace.”  Nixon in his second inaugural address stated:  “Let us be proud that by our bold, new initiatives, and by our steadfastness for peace and honor, we have made a breakthrough toward creating in the world what the world has not known before–a structure of peace that can last…”  This address was delivered a few weeks after a massive bombing of North Vietnam’s capitol.  Solomon sets out other examples of former presidents who make war while talking of peace.  Bush is just more of the same.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I’m currently reading “War Made Easy,” by Norman Solomon.</p>
<p>We’ve been hearing that the Bush Administration’s rejection of a cease fire in Lebanon is based on a desire for an “enduring peace.”  Nixon in his second inaugural address stated:  “Let us be proud that by our bold, new initiatives, and by our steadfastness for peace and honor, we have made a breakthrough toward creating in the world what the world has not known before–a structure of peace that can last…”  This address was delivered a few weeks after a massive bombing of North Vietnam’s capitol.  Solomon sets out other examples of former presidents who make war while talking of peace.  Bush is just more of the same.</p>
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		<title>By: peony</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214192</link>
		<dc:creator>peony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;“One of the points of most spiritual paths is that every moment is born to innocence — and it is the spiritual and psychological baggage that we carry that separates us from Eden, new born at every moment.”&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;ck @88, well said.  Thanks for the reminder.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“One of the points of most spiritual paths is that every moment is born to innocence — and it is the spiritual and psychological baggage that we carry that separates us from Eden, new born at every moment.”</p>
<p>ck @88, well said.  Thanks for the reminder.</p>
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		<title>By: BarbaraB</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214128</link>
		<dc:creator>BarbaraB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:57:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Goodbye, Jean.  One of the wonderful things about blogdom is that there are so many of them.  I appreciate a blog that knows its own limitations; the hostesses here have explained theirs.  So, like you, I read Juan Cole and Billmon and several others, but unlike you, I do read the comments here (and sometimes add to them.)  I also try to read links posted by the firepups I trust.  That’s why I’m so deep in EPU territory on this one!  But for anyone who, like me, is trying to catch up, I recommend the Josh Marshall post referred to, but not linked, above:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009245.php&quot;&gt;http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c.....009245.php&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
In his post, which is chilling enough, JM links to a piece he wrote back in 2003 which was, as it turns out, stunningly prescient:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0304.marshall.html&quot;&gt;http://www.washingtonmonthly.c.....shall.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;
Chaos in the Middle East isn’t a neocon nightmare, it’s their wet dream.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goodbye, Jean.  One of the wonderful things about blogdom is that there are so many of them.  I appreciate a blog that knows its own limitations; the hostesses here have explained theirs.  So, like you, I read Juan Cole and Billmon and several others, but unlike you, I do read the comments here (and sometimes add to them.)  I also try to read links posted by the firepups I trust.  That’s why I’m so deep in EPU territory on this one!  But for anyone who, like me, is trying to catch up, I recommend the Josh Marshall post referred to, but not linked, above:  <a href="http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009245.php">http://www.talkingpointsmemo.c&#8230;..009245.php</a><br />
In his post, which is chilling enough, JM links to a piece he wrote back in 2003 which was, as it turns out, stunningly prescient:  <a href="http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2003/0304.marshall.html">http://www.washingtonmonthly.c&#8230;..shall.html</a><br />
Chaos in the Middle East isn’t a neocon nightmare, it’s their wet dream.</p>
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		<title>By: Seattle</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214098</link>
		<dc:creator>Seattle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:35:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Glad to see that others have been enjoying Billmon too. Here’s a recent good one: &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://billmon.org/archives/002581.html&quot;&gt;http://billmon.org/archives/002581.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see that others have been enjoying Billmon too. Here’s a recent good one: </p>
<p><a href="http://billmon.org/archives/002581.html">http://billmon.org/archives/002581.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Michael Scott</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214077</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Try this one — a great article in Harper’s Magazine, “Stabbed In The Back,” that demonstrates how the Right Wing has been wrong about &lt;i&gt;every major policy issue for the past 75 years&lt;/i&gt; (and it doesn’t even &lt;b&gt;touch&lt;/b&gt; on Civil Rights)!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html&quot;&gt;http://harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Try this one — a great article in Harper’s Magazine, “Stabbed In The Back,” that demonstrates how the Right Wing has been wrong about <i>every major policy issue for the past 75 years</i> (and it doesn’t even <b>touch</b> on Civil Rights)!</p>
<p><a href="http://harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html">http://harpers.org/StabbedInTheBack.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214025</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apologies for typos–didn’t mean to list Dennis Perrin twice. Should have said Under the Same Sun instead. Zeynep just posted on Qana.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies for typos–didn’t mean to list Dennis Perrin twice. Should have said Under the Same Sun instead. Zeynep just posted on Qana.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214017</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re: “We’ve done a number of posts, including a smashing guest post from Billmon” and other comments, usually in the form of put-downs, directed to me:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I go to Whiskey Bar to read Billmon. Looks like his guest post here was a while back. Before I posted I did a search of the term “Lebanon” and, with the exception of TRex’s July 25th post, which explicitly references overwhelming force by Israel against civilians (in a post with a humorous tone), came up with bland hand-wringing references to “the conflict between Israel and Lebanon” and similar, which completely mask the asymmetric and barbaric nature of that “conflict”.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;On a day when Israeli war planes scored a direct hit on the village of Qana, killing upwards of sixty civilians, many of them children, and none of Christy’s links relate to that “conflict” (”massacre” would be a more appropriate term), I find that a conspicuous omission. please go view the photos at Angry Arab if you haven’t already done so; I am certain the name “Qana” evokes memories of April 1996 in most of you, since you are obviously so clued up.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;While I have been visiting this site, along with many others, for some months now, I freely admit I don’t usually read the 200-odd comments on the posts here, no. Nor will I feel so inclined in future, since I don’t feel terribly welcome here. I do “do my homework.” In addition to Billmon, I read Juan Cole, Digby, Dennis Perrin, Riverbend (when she posts, which is rarely these days), Dennis Perrin, Down with Tyranny, Democracy Now!, Dahr Jamail, reports at information clearinghouse, and a host of others, including articles by Robert Fisk, whom  I also met in person and interviewed prior to the invasion of Iraq.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Goodbye.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: “We’ve done a number of posts, including a smashing guest post from Billmon” and other comments, usually in the form of put-downs, directed to me:</p>
<p>I go to Whiskey Bar to read Billmon. Looks like his guest post here was a while back. Before I posted I did a search of the term “Lebanon” and, with the exception of TRex’s July 25th post, which explicitly references overwhelming force by Israel against civilians (in a post with a humorous tone), came up with bland hand-wringing references to “the conflict between Israel and Lebanon” and similar, which completely mask the asymmetric and barbaric nature of that “conflict”.</p>
<p>On a day when Israeli war planes scored a direct hit on the village of Qana, killing upwards of sixty civilians, many of them children, and none of Christy’s links relate to that “conflict” (”massacre” would be a more appropriate term), I find that a conspicuous omission. please go view the photos at Angry Arab if you haven’t already done so; I am certain the name “Qana” evokes memories of April 1996 in most of you, since you are obviously so clued up.</p>
<p>While I have been visiting this site, along with many others, for some months now, I freely admit I don’t usually read the 200-odd comments on the posts here, no. Nor will I feel so inclined in future, since I don’t feel terribly welcome here. I do “do my homework.” In addition to Billmon, I read Juan Cole, Digby, Dennis Perrin, Riverbend (when she posts, which is rarely these days), Dennis Perrin, Down with Tyranny, Democracy Now!, Dahr Jamail, reports at information clearinghouse, and a host of others, including articles by Robert Fisk, whom  I also met in person and interviewed prior to the invasion of Iraq.</p>
<p>Goodbye.</p>
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		<title>By: tejanarusa</title>
		<link>http://firedoglake.com/2006/07/30/lets-share-some-links/#comment-214011</link>
		<dc:creator>tejanarusa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;epu’d as usual–&lt;br /&gt;
bu had to stop by-Mary–your writing skill and scalpel-sharp skewering of the WaPo editorial’s illogical and foolish defense of Lieberman was wonderful.  Left me in awe. Used to think I was good at analysis and could write.  That piece was an achievement of a levelthe “professional” pundits/analysts can only hope to reach once in awhile.  I’ll be re-reading that, as a how-to, let alone the “content”.  Thanks.  No matter what else I should be doing, FDL is always replete with valuable info, well-written, thoughtful, and filled with humanity.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I haven’t been here much lately - what is Egregious doing?  Apparently s/he is in the former USSR somewhere, doing something charitable, but I missed what.  I’ll try search.  apparently birthday wishes are in order for egregious, too, so I second them. (my ‘puter reads cyrillic, but I’ve never figured out how to set up to type it, not having many folks who could read it).&lt;/p&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>epu’d as usual–<br />
bu had to stop by-Mary–your writing skill and scalpel-sharp skewering of the WaPo editorial’s illogical and foolish defense of Lieberman was wonderful.  Left me in awe. Used to think I was good at analysis and could write.  That piece was an achievement of a levelthe “professional” pundits/analysts can only hope to reach once in awhile.  I’ll be re-reading that, as a how-to, let alone the “content”.  Thanks.  No matter what else I should be doing, FDL is always replete with valuable info, well-written, thoughtful, and filled with humanity.</p>
<p>I haven’t been here much lately &#8211; what is Egregious doing?  Apparently s/he is in the former USSR somewhere, doing something charitable, but I missed what.  I’ll try search.  apparently birthday wishes are in order for egregious, too, so I second them. (my ‘puter reads cyrillic, but I’ve never figured out how to set up to type it, not having many folks who could read it).</p>
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